#🌲-talent-tree

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smoky sentinel
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pulsar sorrel
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you didi very good. Your talent tree is nothing wrong. 🤗

smoky sentinel
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Yeah because he copied mine

dapper igloo
smoky sentinel
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But get rid of outworld scourge and just max WPA

dapper igloo
dapper igloo
sleek dew
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Mongoose horse or boar??

smoky sentinel
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Horse

sleek dew
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Thanks

frail pumice
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I just reset and i have 22 points what do i use them for?

smoky sentinel
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Guide pinned

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Maybe you want to keep playing shao kahn tower to get the rest

frail pumice
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Ight thx

odd chasm
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Yo is opponet toughness ignored worth going for?

pliant thistle
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Precision is great with brutal ending. If you go deathmark its less helpful, but still good. I think the health bonus is worst tree to invest in as id rather win faster with more damage and power, that being said though i still got bear stance maxed with few talents i didnt see better use for

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Or was it horse stance.. the one with health bonus, i think bear

smoky sentinel
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Hawk stance >> bear stance, and that's a fact

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Horse stance is in support so can't confuse them

native plover
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And much better in survival

smoky sentinel
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Precision is helpful ALWAYS, even if it's your only thing you're gonna use in attack you should still get it

forest current
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What does gambler do?

smoky sentinel
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Nothing that makes it a better option than precision

smoky sentinel
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^

frail pumice
smoky sentinel
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Swap brutal ending with deathmark and you're good

real prairie
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What do the purple tokens do

smoky sentinel
real prairie
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Okay

smoky sentinel
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^

still merlin
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alright ty

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Idk what first offense deffense or support

smoky sentinel
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Defense is really the least useful

still merlin
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So offense ?

smoky sentinel
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And support

still merlin
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Alright thx

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Where should i put ?

smoky sentinel
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Just follow my path

still merlin
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I mean whats first

smoky sentinel
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You're gonna need more points anyway

still merlin
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Offense or support

smoky sentinel
still merlin
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Alright thx

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Alright ama grind relic hunt later

snow swift
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So I get power of I hit Crits?

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If*

smoky sentinel
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Yes

vestal slate
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Where should I start in support?

smoky sentinel
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Horse stance

vestal slate
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And is there any point of maxing it or should I go right to team work

smoky sentinel
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It gives boosted power gen since it's bugged

vestal slate
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So max it…?

smoky sentinel
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Yes

junior tendon
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Is support suit manual more ?

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Like i usually use atk/def tree cause to at least save me from dying if my laptop lag

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But atk/sup tree make hex easier

smoky sentinel
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I have been using support/attack for over a year with only minor changes so yeah

junior tendon
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How unblockable atk boost work?

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Like first hit ?

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Or the whole basic

clever pawn
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Only the hit that broke a guard counts

junior tendon
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So is it better than the other two?

smoky sentinel
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No

clever pawn
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It depends on how many points you have

junior tendon
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102 i think

smoky sentinel
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^

clever pawn
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Tsunami usually doesnt make too much of an impact, lightning blow sucks if not maxed and even then its kinda whatever, savagery is the one that does the most with only one point cause unblockable damage is also counted as x-rays/fatal blows and some unblockable specials

junior tendon
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Hmm

clever pawn
junior tendon
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I played it before they down it to 100 so i think i had 2 extra

clever pawn
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Its an old glitch they accepted as a feature yeah

gray stirrup
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Is ghost armor better than OIA Tech?

smoky sentinel
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No

urban plank
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.

forest current
smoky sentinel
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On unblockable attacks

forest current
forest current
native plover
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I believe it activates when you break an opponents block, I might be wrong.

forest current
forest current
smoky sentinel
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It's practically useless

forest current
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Ok sir

true pilot
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Is offense tree good to go for?

native plover
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Yes

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Go for deathmark or brutal ending, depends on your kollection

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Death mark is good for all types of players while brutal ending could only be useful for intermediate players that have brutality sets.

minor yacht
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Good bye all.. I do apologize if I have a mistake.. I will delete this game..and discord too.. Because if you don't have diamond.. You're nothing.. MKDragon

native plover
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Huh

smoky sentinel
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Oh well

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That's one less loose end

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We can go back on topic

noble token
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Haha

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Dude was like: I wan ez game. Too hard 4 me.

placid epoch
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should i get horse stance?

native plover
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Yes

young rapids
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can someone tell me what i should do for attack/health

noble token
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Level up. Fuse. Buy support. Buy equipment. Get good. All work.

crisp dagger
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@smoky sentinel do You use horse stance?

smoky sentinel
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Yes

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austere valley
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Its time to try the brute ending after 2 years playing with full defense tree.

smoky sentinel
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Sweet

fervent jackal
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Does boar stance breaks through revenant shield too?

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If not, what should are they talking about

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Shield*

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Mention me plz when responding

smoky sentinel
smoky sentinel
fervent jackal
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Revenant is bs, especially when facing mk11 jade/kabel combo

smoky sentinel
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Deathmark and brutalities neutralize it so no big deal for me

fervent jackal
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Which option should I go for in support section

fervent jackal
smoky sentinel
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Horse stance

fervent jackal
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Why horse? Isn't recovery better for faction war

smoky sentinel
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Horse stance is bugged and gives greatly increased power gen to everyone

fervent jackal
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Oh lol thnx

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How much points? Max it?

smoky sentinel
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Yeah

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^

fervent jackal
manic marten
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I've never seen bone shield or revenant in towers. Is it disabled?

smoky sentinel
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Enemies in towers don't have boneshield

manic marten
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I mean I've never gotten bone shield or revenant

smoky sentinel
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You face enemies with talent trees only in faction wars where you actually face other people's account

smoky sentinel
smoky sentinel
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Everyone benefits from crit talents, not everyone does from dots

manic marten
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I just reset my talent tree and I'm considering not maxing out bone shield and revenant

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they help in faction wars

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but it's rare in towers

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and I'm on FERT 160 now

smoky sentinel
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Been playing without them for over one year and half so yeah

dapper igloo
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what uh revenant gives?

smoky sentinel
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30% chance to survive with 1 hp and be invulnerable for 5 seconds

native plover
# manic marten but it's rare in towers

Revenant can help a lot in annoying matches with annoying modifiers and characters such as battle 185, it is only a chance but still can be used for safety while bone shield is utter garbage

smoky sentinel
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Technically boneshield would be more useful since both have the same effect but usually you face more specials in a match compared to being killed

native plover
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When specials can one shot you, don't see the point of using it and it's a much lower percentage than revenant

smoky sentinel
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What were you saying yesterday? Oh yes, block them SheevaSmirk

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Also 25%/30% is not a big difference

native plover
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I was referring to beginners when i said specials can one shot them

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Not really any point in having revenant if you have maxed diamonds

smoky sentinel
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No point in having the defense tree is you have maxed diamonds, except hawk stance

native plover
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Centurian defence could prove useful if it ever triggers

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It's very satisfying to see the opponent get wrecked by their own sp3

forest current
pine quest
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Please what's the fragments meant for?

smoky sentinel
echo parcel
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does unbridled savagery incresae block breaker or just damage boost on unclocked attacks

smoky sentinel
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Damage boost on attacks that break the block

fervent jackal
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Hi I'm seeking advice about this defense

smoky sentinel
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Get hawk stance

fervent jackal
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I'm thinking about bringing it back to 1 bar for intimidating presence

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Hawk?

smoky sentinel
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If you have to use only 1, don't use at all, it's better

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Yes

fervent jackal
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Why hawk

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Isn't health better

smoky sentinel
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No

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Debuff resistance wins fights, not health

fervent jackal
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Without health I'm dead against mk11 team

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And the annoying CoS liu kang

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What does debuf resistance do

smoky sentinel
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You literally have a chance to resist every single debuff in the game

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Including CoS liu kang's stun

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Scorpion fire, sub0 frostbite... Every. single. one

fervent jackal
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How much should I put there

smoky sentinel
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Max it

fervent jackal
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She's annoying too pfff

smoky sentinel
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Jade's evasion can't be countered in any way

fervent jackal
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Darn

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Can you show me yours

smoky sentinel
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^

fervent jackal
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Thnx

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How do you deal with revenant shield

smoky sentinel
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Brutalities or just wait 5 seconds, if you play properly nothing bad can happen

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Or even better, i don't play fw

fervent jackal
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Oh why not?

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Fw gives blood rubies and diamonds

smoky sentinel
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Because i prefer towers and time is limited

dapper igloo
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Guys can you show me the best talent tree? The most versatile talent tree

grim thicket
dapper igloo
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Thank you

snow swift
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What does wpa stand for?

smoky sentinel
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Weak point attacks

snow swift
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Oh ok

forest current
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I'm waiting for this chat to be fired up cause the horse stance bug got fixed

smoky sentinel
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Naah

crystal breach
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What is best talent for queen tower?

smoky sentinel
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I am not changing mine

dapper igloo
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I Don't know whay talent tree not working in dark Queen Tower

grim thicket
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Me neither, feel free to explain which talent is not working so we can help

smoky sentinel
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Talent tree works in every gamemode

forest current
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Maybe swap it with red dragon training?

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Or reduced power drained from characters?

smoky sentinel
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No

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I am not changing my tree only for one talent

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It would still have to be one in the same tier

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Powergen will be fine

snow swift
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20% debuff resis or +25% hp?

smoky sentinel
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Debuff resistance

snow swift
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thought so

forest current
smoky sentinel
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Yeah because it's not like points appear out of nowhere

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So i can't remove the first talent in support without removing all the ones later too just to go for talents that i don't need in defense

forest current
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But it gives 20% resistance to stun and power drain which are one of the most important so far

smoky sentinel
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Nope

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Also because to reach it i would need all the talents before it, which i couldn't care less for

forest current
smoky sentinel
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Not worth the points

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And again i don't need them

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Weak point attacks in support and brutal ending in attack, then i choose talents between them

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Can't go for defense if i need talents in attack and support

urban plank
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tight verge
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is it worth going for brutal ending or death mark technique in talent tree

smoky sentinel
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Brutal ending if you don't have brutalities is useless, if you have them it's the best option

tight verge
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and the one before that? lightning blow, art of tsunami or unbridled savagery

smoky sentinel
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^

dapper igloo
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i put absolutely nothing into support 😁

smoky sentinel
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Your loss

dapper igloo
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where yo revenant at

smoky sentinel
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Useless

dapper igloo
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you dont play fw right

smoky sentinel
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I do

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Again my tree has been the same for over a year

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Didn't use revenant in one year and half

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And can reach elder 14 with a f3 team lol

dapper igloo
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thats really hard to believe

smoky sentinel
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30% to get my ass covered when i can use the same points on something that would actually help me in fight is useless

dapper igloo
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jit unlucky ic

dapper igloo
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what da hayl

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how

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forget how

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why

smoky sentinel
dapper igloo
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fair enough

smoky sentinel
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So yeah, no need for revenant

hazy flame
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is there like a general talent tree I could use

smoky sentinel
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Mine is fine, just swap brutal ending with deathmark

hazy flame
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gotcha

urban plank
hazy flame
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is there like a link to it

native plover
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@hazy flame

silver garden
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Is this a good versatile tree for many characters , or is it specific to a certain team

native plover
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His tree is for everyone but if you’re a beginner invest in defence and get yourself revenant as that can be a huge help

forest current
smoky sentinel
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Precision with one point is useless

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Minimum 4 are required

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And bear stance instead of hawk FrostSpeakNoEvil

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Warlock spell used only for one point is not that useful to get as well

smoky sentinel
elder summit
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Full power would be op

forest current
# elder summit Full power would be op

Agreed, but the one talent in warlocks tactic is cause I deal 15k and regen 16k, but I don't need more heal than initial damage so I removed that and got on and it still helps when lethal and wushu trigger together

forest current
smoky sentinel
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You still spent 6 points that could have been used on something else on a talent which is not that much of a goal to reach

forest current
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And I had 5 on that but then I started getting interscepted more so I cancelled on that

smoky sentinel
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Precision is to increase combo ender chance

forest current
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Yes ik

smoky sentinel
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With 4 you have 100% on 90% of the characters

forest current
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I'm limiting it to 1

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Beacuse

smoky sentinel
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Lowering it is not a good thing under any aspect

forest current
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Lius and ninjitsus combos are intersceptable

smoky sentinel
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Then just don't do them?

forest current
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And liu anyways gets combos 90% of the time and I actually Started cancelling them😂

smoky sentinel
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Everyone else benefits from it

forest current
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Rest good?

smoky sentinel
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No sense in making it worse on purpose to help a basic gold that nobody cares about in late game

forest current
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ie damage dealer

smoky sentinel
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Sad

forest current
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And it helps liu too

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His combos are intersceptable

smoky sentinel
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Considering that his damage got halfed, rip if he's your damage dealer

forest current
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And 190k+ on lethal

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I can remove warlocks but any suggestions on what to spend them on ?

elder summit
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Draco can i use ping @ here?

smoky sentinel
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No

elder summit
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Ok

smoky sentinel
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They don't work anyway

elder summit
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._.

forest current
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Except precision 😂

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I don't need it, really

smoky sentinel
forest current
smoky sentinel
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Crit talents are better than dot talents as well, so lin kuei tutoring and black dragon training

smoky sentinel
forest current
smoky sentinel
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You're better with getting max maxing lightning blow more than boar

forest current
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Talents

smoky sentinel
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It can make the difference between life and death when it triggers

forest current
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5 games lmao still not even once

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Even though I use 3 sp2 in a row by molochs fx power saving💀

hazy flame
forest current
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So Draco, 10% on warlocks doesn't help at all?

smoky sentinel
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You use it if you have to go further in the support tree

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Spending points for it alone is not worth it

smoky sentinel
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^

hexed geode
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Tysm!

mortal bramble
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@smoky sentinel What was your 195 team?

smoky sentinel
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Mk11 scorpion, sub0 and raiden

mortal bramble
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My MK11 Raiden isn't strong enough yet

smoky sentinel
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I used him for powerdrain immunity

mortal bramble
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Same thought...

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Might be able to use SFS instead of Sub to save MK11 Scorp & Raiden

rugged nacelle
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People what is this? I'm redoing my talent tree and the other options in this set are useless to me (10% discount on x ray and extra damage against zombies)

grim thicket
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go for the discount

rugged nacelle
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But what does life drain and regen boost do? 😅

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I never use x ray. My playing style is mostly sp1

clever pawn
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It does what it says pretty much, some kards and equipments let you life steal and regen and Warlock Spells gives it a boost

rugged nacelle
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Oh, healing. Yep, it's also what my team does. Thanks!

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Wait wait, equipment?

mortal bramble
rugged nacelle
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Does that mean it doesn't help my healing kards? (Mk11 Scarlet, lady of the dead Kitana) etc?

rugged nacelle
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So it's good for mk11 Scarlet and lady of the dead kitana as well

rugged nacelle
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Yep. Thank you!

mortal bramble
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No prob

forest current
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OFFENSE
Tiger 1
Precision 1
Kill stroke 1
Rapid response 5
Shirai Ryu teachings 1
Art of the tsunami 1
Death mark technique 4

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SUPPORT

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Boar 4
Spec Ops Tactics 5

clever pawn
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Lost me already

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Art of tsunami is either good at 5 or serves as fodder at 1, precision has too low impact below 3, no reasons to not max death marks technique

forest current
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Defence
Bear 5
Intimidating presence 1
Shokan dominance 1
Oia tech 1
REd dragon training 1
Revenant 5

forest current
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I have extra two points

clever pawn
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For defense absolutely not bear over hawk stance under any means

forest current
clever pawn
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Fights can be very debuff heavy as the game is right now

forest current
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Hmm

clever pawn
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You could use the 2 extra points you used on tsunami finishing DM and giving at least 1 more point to precision

forest current
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Mhm

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Maybe check all and tell if I should remove one here and there and replace in something?

clever pawn
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Other than hawk stance over bear I'd keep it that way, wouldnt use some of those choices there myself but they aren't random picks at the least

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As in you can tell what the intention behind them is

forest current
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Lmao yeah

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I reset like 30 times

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Or more I think

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In the image I sent I'm using warlocks spells

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I'm gonna remove warlocks and keep everything else the same soo I'm gonna use the 6 spent there on other talents, right now my plan is to max boar or should I keep it at 4 and take tsunami to 3 or deathmark max?

clever pawn
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Id honestly leave tsunami at 1, its not as impactful as it sounds on paper

clever pawn
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Max deathmark and if you can give precision at least 3 points

forest current
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Kay

leaden quarry
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Does spirit of vengeance still work against bosses?

native plover
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I believe so unless they nerfed it this update

forest current
mortal bramble
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It does but it's been glitchy as of the latest update

native plover
dapper igloo
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What does unlockable damage do?

smoky sentinel
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It's simply the damage on block-breaking attacks

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The talent is useless

uneven snow
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Hi guys are status like blind, weaken, curse counted as DOTs?

smoky sentinel
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Nope

forest current
silver garden
smoky sentinel
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Fire, bleed, poison and dark magic

silver garden
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Is it better to fully max a talent tree then work on 2 at the same time

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If so what’s better the attack tree or support tree

native plover
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Attack

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But mainly depends on which character you use

silver garden
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I cycle four teams with mk11 raid/scorp /sub/Shang. Klassic rain , bd erron/tremor sf Johnny/Cassie Klassic rain assassin kitana

smoky sentinel
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Just copy mine

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Works for everyone

silver garden
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I am , so attack first ?

smoky sentinel
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Yes

autumn void
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Is opportunist better than precision

clever pawn
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No

honest reef
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But other than that combo enders are really important even when some characters don’t get anything off of them other than more damage

smoky sentinel
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Opportunist is useless when the damage you can get from a combo ender is still higher than what you could gain from opportunist

clever pawn
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It has more to do with the fact that some kards literally cannot function without enders, unless you think that being forced to block after connecting a combo is ok

honest reef
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some kards actually are in a worse position when doing a combo ender

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Best examples are shaolin master kung lao and balanced/possessed or elder god kenshi when they kick, it gets a bit annoying but sometimes you can just buffer a special to get them safe

clever pawn
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You can combo specials right after, and they arent in a worse position unless you are on a corner

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Its just a rough reset, which can make them be at the same or lower frames than their opponent

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Which gives them a really bad light considering you just connected a combo

dapper igloo
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Can you show me a talent tree for dqt?

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Normal Dark Queen Tower

smoky sentinel
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@dapper igloo

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Just replace brutal ending with deathmark

dapper igloo
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Yeah thank you but you don't use defense?

smoky sentinel
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No need for it

dapper igloo
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Okk

sharp plover
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Stalwart Defence or Intimidating Presence ?

smoky sentinel
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Stalwart

sharp plover
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Thanks

eager raptor
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both are good

sharp plover
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I never have ANY luck in survivor.
I think it’s been 6 months, and never had a diamond reward. Just gold sell backs.
So kinda given up on survivor.
Easier to farm diamonds from the tower.
Thanks for the advice

forest current
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Or kontender 1

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Best way to get diamonds

mortal bramble
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Buy them in guarantee packs for money, fight in faction war's, or save souls & focus on a specific diamond pack in the store such as the MK11 Scorp, Skar, & Sub pack.

smoky sentinel
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Back on topic

fervent jackal
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Plz suggest me a talent tree for FW. Ots bs how I'm not reaching lvl 15 anymore

leaden lagoon
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What does brutal ending even help with? Clearly it doesn’t give 100% chance for brutality on combo ender so how is it useful?

forest current
leaden lagoon
forest current
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Plus

leaden lagoon
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That’s not my point. I’m saying that if it says it’s 100% then it should be 100%. If it’s not then it’s gotta be something else. I wanna know what

forest current
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Ok tell me what's the problem

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Like do u do the combo Enders and it doesn't work?

leaden lagoon
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That’s the problem

leaden lagoon
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Even with the 100%

forest current
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Do u even have brutality gear?

leaden lagoon
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Yes

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For mileena

forest current
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Okay

leaden lagoon
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UNLESS there is some brutality reduction gear idk about

forest current
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Do u have diamond mileena?

leaden lagoon
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Rav mileena yes

forest current
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The talent only works if u put the gear on diamond

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Plus u actually perform a COMBO

leaden lagoon
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Yes everything is accounted for. I’ve tried it like 3 times. It’s not 100%

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The talent has to be for something else

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I don’t have a current battle to test it on again

forest current
leaden lagoon
forest current
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Use fx bronzes on your team

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You will get fx diamonds as opponents

nocturne barn
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Normally brutality works only for the last char under 25%.
The talent let you have 100% to kill any char(not just last) if it triggers special combo ender(that has a 40% chance to be triggered)

smoky sentinel
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So yeah, far from useless

native plover
# leaden lagoon Yes everything is accounted for. I’ve tried it like 3 times. It’s not 100%

When you put the gear on a diamond character there is 40% chance that you do a special combo ender and if the opponent is under 25% a brutality is performed
Brutal ending makes it so that when you perform a special combo ender to an enemy while under 25% hp, it’s a guaranteed brutality as long as you have the talent maxed and also you’ll be able to do it on all 3 characters instead of the last one like Draco said.

smoky sentinel
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It's: 100% chance that a special combo ender (the chance for it remains 40% no matter what) against an opponent in brutality range will turn into a brutality

native plover
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Yeah that’s what I said

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What I meant by the guaranteed brutality part is that the special combo ender is guaranteed to perform the brutality

versed orchid
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Red dragon training Cyber lin kuei Programming or fujona Boon

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Fujins

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Boon*

smoky sentinel
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Cyber programming

forest current
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Red dragon

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Bruh

versed orchid
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U know what i resetted my talent tree

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Who can give me A solid talent tree set up

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I have only 32 talent tree points btw

smoky sentinel
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You have to get more

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In the meanwhile get hawk stance maxed and precision

versed orchid
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Is it worth it to get revenant or just max the hawk stance

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Done mastered hawk stance

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@smoky sentinel What i choose at the offense ?

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Mantis lion or tiger

smoky sentinel
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One point in tiger chance and then max precision

versed orchid
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K

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I have 16

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Points left

smoky sentinel
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Just copy this

versed orchid
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K copyed for how much i had

leaden lagoon
dapper igloo
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@smoky sentinel can you explain your tree?

smoky sentinel
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What's to explain

dapper igloo
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Why you don't use defense?

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That's useful

smoky sentinel
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Because offense is the best defense

iron sentinel
smoky sentinel
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Defense is usually relying on a chance to get your ass saved by revenant and boneshield, while with offense you can just focus on pure skill and if you don't die is because you played well, not because you had luck with a dice roll

iron sentinel
silver garden
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Can you show the other screenshot for your support if you have it available please

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Or do you stop leveling it there

smoky sentinel
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It's all there

silver garden
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Is my discord broken lol? I only see one support page in your pictures

smoky sentinel
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Exactly

silver garden
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Ohhh , so support tree is ended on weak points attack?

smoky sentinel
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Yep

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As you can see in the bar below it doesn't go further

leaden lagoon
#

How does resistance to debuffs work. Does it reduce debuffs timer, power, or is it a chance to be resisted?

silver garden
smoky sentinel
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Not getting affected by a debuff is definitely better than making it weaker

leaden lagoon
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Ah ok. Thanks

leaden lagoon
smoky sentinel
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Debuff resistance stacks

leaden lagoon
#

So if I have enough gear with debuff resistance I can get to 100% resistance?

smoky sentinel
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Yes

leaden lagoon
#

Ok nice. That sounds great in certain situations

smoky sentinel
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It's always great to have

leaden lagoon
#

I might have to reset my talent tree to get that maxed

mortal bramble
#

If you have MK11 Noob Saiboat, & any other MK11 member you can put Noob on your team & use his death mark through his teammate by blocking

forest current
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Final tree until my diamonds reach F1 or higher.

smoky sentinel
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Bear stance FrostSeeNoEvil

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And 1 point in precision

forest current
languid topaz
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This channel existed I never knew that..

forest current
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Also sf scorp

forest current
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Mine does lol

smoky sentinel
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The base chance on most characters is 75%

forest current
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Every 1/10 combo he might not make it

smoky sentinel
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So you need at least precision with 4 points

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For 100%

forest current
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Maybe 1/20

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But he almost always makes a combo

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Lol

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Combo is just fine.

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Everything else good?

languid topaz
forest current
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||ignore the bear stance thing it works pretty well for me||

languid topaz
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Suggestion are open, redid tt 13 mins ago

forest current
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Nothing in support wow

languid topaz
#

?

forest current
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Who's your main team?

languid topaz
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Mk11 and SF

forest current
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How about I put it this way

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Liu does 12k on sp1 at f0

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Scorp does 45k on sp1

languid topaz
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Which liu?

forest current
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Cos

languid topaz
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Go on?

smoky sentinel
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Debuff resistance is better than extra health under every aspect btw

languid topaz
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Cos doing low damage

forest current
languid topaz
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Yes I got hawk stance

forest current
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Fw he does over 30k

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Sp2 is over 60k

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Full heal

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Plus he's f0

languid topaz
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Why u use health boost tt JadeCrying

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Hawk stance is better

forest current
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It's not

smoky sentinel
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It..is

languid topaz
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Bruh

smoky sentinel
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Under every aspect

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Also because it stacks

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And resisting CoS liu's stun at the start of a match is better than having more health to not get oneshotted (just ONE example)

languid topaz
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Hawk + red dragon gives 40% resistance to power drain and stun

smoky sentinel
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It is

forest current
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Whenever I use liu against liu

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Somehow enemy always hits first

smoky sentinel
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Liu against liu no one gets stunned but because it's intended

forest current
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always

smoky sentinel
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AI has the advantage

languid topaz
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I’m guessing he has never faced Argus cloak LiuKangSmile

forest current
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And that's how long I played the game.

smoky sentinel
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Nope, he didn't

forest current
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I started playing the game long after it went

smoky sentinel
#

Debuff resistance is a must have in every tower nowadays

forest current
smoky sentinel
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Exactly, it stacks

languid topaz
#

That’s why hawk stance is must

smoky sentinel
#

With mask and hawk stance together you have 50% resistance to all debuffs

forest current
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Yeah

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Wait no-

smoky sentinel
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Yes

forest current
#

20+20

smoky sentinel
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Mask gives 30

forest current
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Or 25+20

forest current
smoky sentinel
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30+20

forest current
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Lmao

smoky sentinel
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Nobody counts f0 when making examples 💀

forest current
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Fx 30 yes

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🤣

languid topaz
#

JadeCrying I’m guessing you have health tt to survive longer then

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In that case it’s pointless..

forest current
smoky sentinel
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Dots take a % of your health so having more won't change anything, resisting them on the other hand...

forest current
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Cause when I use hawk..

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Health got nerfed by 4k, 20k, 4k each

smoky sentinel
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Which is not a big deal

forest current
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And that really sucks against dotd kitana boss

languid topaz
#

FOS gives health boost, that’s why get hawk stance

languid topaz
smoky sentinel
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Like the blind on tag in in this tower

forest current
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I'll be left with 800 health smth

smoky sentinel
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Yeah 4k wouldn't change anything

forest current
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Anyways, I'm good with my tree rn, cripple on sp1 gotta thank u for that draco it triggers 1/2 or 1/3 of the tine

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Good pow gen, sp damage.. health etc etc

smoky sentinel
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^

mortal bramble
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I think I might know what I did differently that helped me out

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Going to try something, will let you know

smoky sentinel
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Defense gives health and support gives recovery

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no idea where the extra stats come from

mortal bramble
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I just got stronger

clever pawn
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Unmaxed hawk stance

mortal bramble
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Lion Stance & max out offensive stats so you can access the last talent

clever pawn
#

Yeah I still dont like the points management

mortal bramble
worldly bolt
smoky sentinel
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The saturation is killing my eyes

clever pawn
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That blue should be illegal

mortal bramble
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Definitely

clever pawn
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Somehow support tile is normal

mortal bramble
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Might've happened when he/she edited them to put them together

worldly bolt
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Photoshop kolaj..

clever pawn
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Now that I look at his pfp he just casually runs max saturation

mortal bramble
#

Ouch that must hurt like hell after awhile

silver garden
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I just realized after trying to calculate where my error was that Draco’s trees had stuff not fully maxed out, that I was maxing out lol

worldly bolt
#

Blue kolaj interesting

shadow shore
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Should I go for offense, defense or support route?

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And which one do I take

native plover
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Since you only have 6 rn, max out hawk stance in defense

shadow shore
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Alright

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Imma see what it does

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Oooo that does make sense

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I like it

smoky sentinel
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@safe chasm copy this

safe chasm
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Thanks bro✨

rugged nacelle
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Guys, out world scourage or centered? I never tried centered before, but I have a feeling it's better. Will it make my sp1 freeze sub0 and spear scorp better?

honest reef
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Yes it will

rugged nacelle
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I'll go for it then. Outworld scourage can be really cool, but sometimes it never works. Centered it is. Thx bro! 💪

honest reef
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If you’re good with timing scorpion attacks you can get 5 hits out of a stun and possibly loop more sp1s

rugged nacelle
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Yes I'm doing 5 basic hits before every spear 😊

dapper igloo
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It only works on the first hit

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For grapple it doesn't work, because the first hit Allways do 0 damage

weary wharf
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what’s a good talent tree

smoky sentinel
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Mine

weary wharf
#

what is it

smoky sentinel
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^

weary wharf
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tysm

smoky sentinel
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Sir this is the talent tree chat

shadow shore
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Team work or spec op tactics

smoky sentinel
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Teamwork

shadow shore
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I see

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Thx

potent edge
smoky sentinel
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Deathmark

potent edge
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Thought so, ty

neat nimbus
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@crystal raven you can see if you scroll back a little...

neat nimbus
crystal raven
neat nimbus
neat nimbus
# crystal raven

From Defense you only need Hawk Stance...
rest of points are better for Offense and Support..

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Hope will help you!

crystal raven
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ok, you recommended not max defense? just offense and partial defense and support?

smoky sentinel
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The only thing you really need in defense is hawk stance

crystal raven
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thank you, this is good info, i hope channel moderator can pin this

smoky sentinel
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There is already a guide pinned

crystal raven
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thank you for all help, after countless reties & souls refreshes ….i finally get past that crazy team….

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i think i got some of my sanity back

smoky sentinel
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GGs

severe sonnet
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Hi Buddy.

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M New In Mk Mobile So I Have max talent points and i wana build talent tree but i can't understand what should i go for someone can help me out..

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Which Can Useable upcoming towers etc

smoky sentinel
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@severe sonnet

severe sonnet
smoky sentinel
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There is the guide pinned as well

severe sonnet
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where i can found him

smoky sentinel
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Pinned messages

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Swipe left if on mobile, the 📌 icon top right

severe sonnet
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is that 1

smoky sentinel
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Yes

severe sonnet
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can i use that 1

smoky sentinel
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Use whatever you want, not here to stop you

severe sonnet
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ok

smoky sentinel
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This is my tree

severe sonnet
high trellis
#

what’s a good strategy to generate as much power as possible with horse stance and teamwork talent?

smoky sentinel
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By completing the tower

timber moss
#

I completed the shao Kahn tower a second time, and I got an extra talent point

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Is that right?

smoky sentinel
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How many do you have

timber moss
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I didn't check, completing the first time I should get 100 right?

honest reef
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Yes, 1 for each battle

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I heard that veteran players had like 102 or something because it was different back then

timber moss
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Then I should have 101

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I don't want to spend 12 souls to check

honest reef
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It’s 12 souls or you can do the math

timber moss
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I'm tired to do maths, I'm sleepy

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Okay I did the count, 101

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So if I finish again the tower, I would get another one to 102

honest reef
#

wait is this like an actual feature

forest current
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@smoky sentinel

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Can u check if this is an actual thing?

timber moss
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Somehow I have 101, perhaps devs didn't wanted to remove the extra 2, so you could get them completing the tower again, I guess

timber moss
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Yeah lol, I have 101 rn

dapper igloo
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Well, after the update in which they were supposed to fix it I got 101 and then 102 points. And last week, after finishing the tower one more time and the game wanted to add the 103rd point, only then was I sent the error message and my talent tree reset to... wait for it... 101 points lol.

forest current
hardy girder
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Doesn't matter

forest current
#

I think we can now

hardy girder
#

You can't get more unless it is bugged or glitched

forest current
#

Maybe they made it such-

hardy girder
#

Now move on

forest current
#

Okay then

hardy girder
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You can't get more than 100

forest current
#

Lemme try finishing the tower once

hardy girder
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That's it

forest current
#

I'll tell if I get another one

hardy girder
#

You won't

forest current
hardy girder
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For nothing

#

SKT is just for farming fragments after first completion

forest current
#

Literally done, everything sorted out and if I get 102 I'll max out spec ops tactics and boar stance

timber moss
#

Would I lie lol, I started to play the game since FGLK failed updated (where devs were giving free diamonds) I completed the Shao Kahn Tower once, got 100 talent points, and few weeks ago I completed a second time, and in the stage 100, it gave me 1 talent point

#

Has the devs taken out the 2 extra of every player?

smoky sentinel
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Shao kahn tower gives 1 talent point after every battle only on the first run

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It used to give 2 at the start as tutorial, been discontinued years ago

timber moss
#

Neither, 101

forest current
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Or by playing tutorial

smoky sentinel
#

There is no tutorial

forest current
smoky sentinel
#

Tutorial gave 2

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And he has 1

forest current
#

Like twice

#

So we can get 102

smoky sentinel
#

It doesn't

forest current
#

I think it's a feature.. 3 people told it already

smoky sentinel
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It's not a feature

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The intended max is 100

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They even resetted the points of those who had more last update

forest current
#

Hmm

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So u have 100?

smoky sentinel
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102 only if you did the old tutorial

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102, I used to have 107 because of a very old bug

forest current
smoky sentinel
#

Completed the tower at least 7 times never dropped any extra point

distant spruce
#

Wich Talent is the best to counter Dark Lui Kangs stun at every beginning of a match?

smoky sentinel
#

Hawk stance

distant spruce
honest reef
smoky sentinel
#

Not really imo

dapper igloo
smoky sentinel
#

That's black dragon training

honest reef
#

That’s black dragon training, red dragon is stun and idk what the other resist was

smoky sentinel
#

Cripple

honest reef
#

ah

dapper igloo
#

Ah... Realy

shadow shore
#

Onis blood or shokan dom?

clever pawn
#

Shokan, tho I honestly forgot what Oni does cause it never caught my intefest whenever I reseted my tree

shadow shore
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Im tipping over shokan

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Oni reduces basic attack dmg when blocked

clever pawn
#

Centaurean is on that tier too right, I would opt between the 2

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Altho centaurean would only get a shot for me if you can max it

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Otherwise just shokan

shadow shore
#

I have an equipment that covers that

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And I feel like I would be wise in using that equipment on a card that will use it in battle

clever pawn
#

I very much doubt that, centaurean reflects unblockable damage including x rays

shadow shore
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Ohh 👀

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Actually yea

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Im going for that

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Hehe

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I didn’t know it reflects unblockable dmg

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Including x’s

dapper igloo
#

It rarely helps, I don't like it.

shadow shore
#

Maybe cuz you are not up against teams that use unblockable attacks?

clever pawn
#

Its quite chance based compared to shokan thats active at all times

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Mainly to have a shot at taking x rays or grabs, and maybe some unblockable attacks like GS Erron which are not as likely

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But then again, it is a 1/5 chance to not get blasted

dapper igloo
#

Relying on chance is not a good strategy.
I had the same problem with revenant, I took it down instead.

Offense and support tree is stronger, because you have to attack to win in all battle. 🙃

honest reef
#

Revenant has a way higher chance of activating against multi hits because of how damage works

clever pawn
#

Poor coding

honest reef
#

Mongoose stance and warlock spells just makes unstoppable jason a regen machine

#

Love him

distant spruce
#

What kind of talents are mostly useful for the survival mode in fraction wars?

smoky sentinel
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Defensive talents

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However if you know how to play well you don't really need them

dapper igloo
#

This is not supposed to be. Talent tree of a FW opponent today.

smoky sentinel
#

Just a old bug

dapper igloo
#

OK thx

wicked spruce
#

Are we gonna see talet tree presets in the new update

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Talent*

forest current
#

Probably not cause we need souls to reset tree and them making that free is low chance

#

If we can change presets for souls then maybe

forest current
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If u want to then give this a go

#

Really fun tree 2 use

subtle stone
#

@forest current the grind begins

forest current
marsh compass
#

@smoky sentinel hello there

I used to have 102 talent points, and now I received 1 point after finishing the tower again, so now I have 103!!

smoky sentinel
#

Ok?

marsh compass
# smoky sentinel Ok?

It happened once before and when I used the extra point the game crashed, and when I opened it again I found that my talent tree was reset and had only 100 points, and i got the other 2 by completing the tower twice

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So basically, I lost 2 points and had to complete the tower twice again to get them back, and this obviously effecting my tree since we know how precious are the talent points

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Is there anything to do about it?

smoky sentinel
#

Ok and what am i supposed to do?

smoky sentinel
#

The tower is not supposed to drop more points after completing the first run

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100 is the max, 102 only for who did the old tutorial

marsh compass
smoky sentinel
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Not trying to use the extra point should do it

marsh compass
smoky sentinel
#

We only work on the discord, for anything game-related you have to contact support. No worries

marsh compass
smoky sentinel
#

Yeah it is, but moderators take care of the server, we have no power in game

smoky sentinel
#

@hazy sluice Just copy mine

hazy sluice
#

Okay thank you

smoky sentinel
#

Deathmark instead of brutal ending if you have no brutalities

upper sedge
short wolf
#

Deathmark?

upper sedge
upper sedge
#

and i finished shao kahn tower

short wolf
#

Dw about bone sheild

upper sedge
#

and nothing on support

#

i think i'm going to remeastered them rn tbh

short wolf
#

And dw about art of tsunami

upper sedge
#

i wasted some of them

short wolf
#

And only give 1 point to tiger stance

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Then max out deathmark it is the best talent for beginners

torpid shard
#

Well, I'll be. It's been here awhile. I scrolled up and up.

short wolf
#

Also give one point to the talent in defense that reduces the amount of dot and frostbite time

torpid shard
#

Some folks take to rearranging their talent tree as easily as changing clothes. But I'm still nervous or reluctant to do it as frequently as might be beneficial from one circumstance to another. I guess it's because the Souls required to reset the talent tree seemed very expensive, back in the day.

short wolf
#

For me its the time that it takes to re arrange everything

upper sedge
#

alright i remeastered them

short wolf
#

Looking good

torpid shard
#

You're a pretty good strategist yourself, young man.

short wolf
#

What does art of shield do?

torpid shard
#

I'm only soso.

upper sedge
short wolf
#

Thats kinda useless oia tech is better

upper sedge
#

bosses don't even touch my characters tbh

short wolf
#

How about strangle hold from offence tree

upper sedge
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that's why i didn't used oia tech

short wolf
#

Oia tech is 20% less power drained from your characters

upper sedge
#

i know but my characters have 105+ power boost gen so meh

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basically one combo enders = sp1 ready

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117% kabal , 115% sub0

torpid shard
smoky sentinel
#

Or you can always just copy mine

torpid shard
#

That's a good idea.

smoky sentinel
#

The only talent you really need in defense is hawk stance

short wolf
#

Do you use wpa draco

smoky sentinel
#

Yes

upper sedge
torpid shard
#

Hmm. I'd better reinstate it.

short wolf
#

His tree will suit your team proud mk11 kabal babes

smoky sentinel
upper sedge
#

i don't have brutal set's

smoky sentinel
#

Sub0 already does revenant job better

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If no brutality use deathmark

torpid shard
#

I've recently been relying on I2R's SP2.

upper sedge
short wolf
#

Best talent

upper sedge
#

idk my talent tree is good for my playstyle , since my attacker is mk11 scorpion

#

and talent tree is made for him

smoky sentinel
#

He's mine too

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But mine works for every character

#

Crit talents > dot talents

upper sedge
#

i use this tree till i beat battle 100 then i'm going to make it for every characters

smoky sentinel
#

You don't need dot talents also because bosses are dot immune

#

Crit talents are better

upper sedge
short wolf
#

Rapid response is useless aswell compared to crit chance and crit damage

upper sedge
#

till bosses i use this talent so i can fry they

smoky sentinel
#

I haven't changed my tree in over a year and half if not for some minor adjustments

upper sedge
#

fine

upper sedge
smoky sentinel
#

^

torpid shard
#

Damn. Thank goodness you guys don't have a bunch of L60 diamonds.

short wolf
#

These are MUST have talents in offence

smoky sentinel
#

You can take some points off horse stance and use them somewhere else

#

1 points is enough

short wolf
torpid shard
#

My present offensive measures.

upper sedge
#

draco i can't see first talents from support..

smoky sentinel
#

You do, the whole support section is in a single screen

short wolf
#

He wouldve put 1 point in them

smoky sentinel
#

Oh I thought i had reduced the points in horse stance

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Damn i really didn't touch it at all TakedaLoL

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But yeah if you want to take some points off horse stance you can put them in lin kuei tutoring

torpid shard
#

Lol

upper sedge
#

too late

short wolf
#

Interesting why havent you maxed crit chance ? 🧐

smoky sentinel
#

I did

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Black dragon training is the crit chance one

upper sedge
#

17% maxed

short wolf
#

Got them mixed up sorry

upper sedge
#

with lin kuei tutorage 27% total

short wolf
smoky sentinel
#

Lin kuei tutorage gives crit damage

upper sedge
#

oh

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didn't read it

smoky sentinel
#

They go together

torpid shard
#

Do crits only occur during basic attacks and their combo enders?

smoky sentinel
#

Also special attacks

short wolf
#

Can your xray crit?

smoky sentinel
#

Nope

short wolf
#

Also does unbridled savagery increase xray damage?

smoky sentinel
#

Not sure

short wolf
#

Its an interesting one since xray is unblockable

torpid shard
#

Probably not, I think the min and max of X-Rays are the same.

upper sedge
#

are same ye

torpid shard
#

X-Rays are blockable.

smoky sentinel
#

Nope

upper sedge
torpid shard
#

Yes. Hence, Jax's passives and equipment functions.

upper sedge
#

terminators are immune

smoky sentinel
#

Xrays are always unblockable

torpid shard
#

Blocking doesn't mean no damage is incurred.

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Necessarily

smoky sentinel
#

They always break the block

upper sedge
#

they are like grapple

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just more damage

torpid shard
#

If you're blocking at the initial hit, it's considered blocked, in most cases the animation continues.

smoky sentinel
#

It just breaks the block

upper sedge
#

like in mk komplete edition . mkx ,mk11

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no wait in komplete edition is blockable some of them

torpid shard
#

You can reflect up to 100% of such an attack with the right gear and/or passives, when blocking.

smoky sentinel
#

No you can't

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Only centaurian defense can, because it's unblockable

torpid shard
#

The wording may not explicitly mention X-Rays apart from "All Special Attacks", but I'm sure many have experienced that condition.

smoky sentinel
#

Xrays and special attacks are different

torpid shard
#

I know, but they're under the same banner.

smoky sentinel
#

Just like kung lao and DotD erron can't get free xrays

torpid shard
#

Yes. In a number of instances, Specials are regarded apart from X-Rays. But effects from X-Rays can be rendered null and void under certain circumstances.

smoky sentinel
#

Nope

torpid shard
#

I've been blocking X-Rays since day 0.

smoky sentinel
#

No you haven't because they are unblockable lmao

torpid shard
#

And if my block is timely the damage is reduced.

#

They tell you to use two fingers to block high damage attacks. The AI sometimes attempts to do it.

smoky sentinel
#

Xrays break the block

torpid shard
#

I always do.

smoky sentinel
#

Once the animation is being performed you're eating all the damage

torpid shard
#

Yes. But as I've said, the animation continues but the resulting damage is lessened.

#

Sometimes the X-Ray just misses altogether. Sometimes it's inevitable.

smoky sentinel
#

None of this has something to do with this channel anyway, #💬-general

smoky sentinel
#

It's a grapple attack

torpid shard
#

No.

smoky sentinel
#

Yes 💀

upper sedge
#

i think my brain commited suicide

forest current
#

@upper sedge if u want copy my tree

#

It has revent plus a ton of other stuff

forest current
smoky sentinel
#

He already copied mine

flint frost
#

How can i see your talent trees?

smoky sentinel
outer oar
#

What I’m using for Kold War

austere onyx
#

I might test this out

smoky sentinel
outer oar
#

Use crit chance percentage equip

smoky sentinel
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Hawk stance is a must in every tree

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And black dragon training is better than rapid response since it's still extra crit chance on characters without dots

outer oar
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Maybe not everyone goes after shao khans hammer?

smoky sentinel
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??

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Black dragon training gives 17% base crit chance to every character, it's better than a talent that benefits only few characters that rely on dots

outer oar
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All I’m working with

smoky sentinel
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The equipments don't matter

austere onyx
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Draco is so polite yet his burns sting

smoky sentinel
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No let's keep this chat for the talent tree only thanks, there's #🗡-kollection

outer oar
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Just saying my talent trees working with this squad I’m at 145

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Fairly new so thanks for the feedback

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Only in month 7

smoky sentinel
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The best tree is the one that works for every character and every situation

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(And johnny would benefit more from the hammer)

outer oar
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Yea I agree with the hawk stance #thanks

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I do got a f7 raiden but save him for bosses

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Diamond

austere onyx
clever pawn
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Hoping its either Inj or Mk11 cause KL is the one who does the least against bosses

pine ruin
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I reckon Klassic Raiden is only ever useful for the in betweens in Towers

simple pier
pine ruin
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yeah that's what I mean, in between boss battles

shut brook
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This is my tt for towers @smoky sentinel

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So there is a base cc in the game

weary wharf
smoky sentinel
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Critical chance

weary wharf
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oh

forest current
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@shut brook remove points from lion stance and max out lighting blow