#š²-talent-tree
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nope, only put 1 talent point into tiger stance
Yeah thatās alright, once you finish shao kahn tower youāll experience the talent tree fully
Hawk and horse stance are just fine
do i put my talent points in anything else? i have 1 extra
Just put it into Tiger stance
you said to never max it ;-;
What else are you gonna do with that talent point
idk i have no idea what i could've done
I would rather invest in a talent than going for the next tier
Just get tiger stance lol, itās fine
Once you get the full 100 talent points, you can reset your tree
For the first time itās free, and it caps to 12 souls
oh okay
Is the damage of dis tree big?
I would say, absolutely
Hawk stance is all you need in defense, revenant + bone shield are unnecessary
And of course, brutal ending is a great talent when you have brutalities. Precision is a must, thunderous blows + rapid response is a great combo
Then, of course, my favorite tree. The support tree. Meditation + Outworld scourge is an outrageous combo
Youāre getting exactly what you need from this tree; the maximum amount of offense possible with a little sprinkle of defense
Thanks u
Yo what should I use my talent points on?
Read the pins, they give great suggestions
Ok thanks
whats the best talent tree?
100%
ty
Cruel affliction ? I dunno you build DOT team. 
Can you get enough talent points to master every tree you do
No, absolutely no.
We only get maximum 100 point.
Damn
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Well could I get a list of a good talent tree set up
Maybe you want to check the pins
Bone shield doesn't negate DOT. "Shinnok Teaching" is really suck talent -_-
It doesn't suck
bad mouth, sr š¦
Offense: Lion Stance1Ā ā Precision4Ā ā Lin Kuei Tutorage1Ā ā Black Dragon Training3Ā ā Shirai Ryu TeachingsMĀ ā Lightning Blow3Ā ā Brutal EndingM.
Defense: Hawk StanceMĀ ā Stalwart DefenseM.
Support: Mongoose Stance1Ā ā TeamworkMĀ ā Live for the Battle1Ā ā Meditation1Ā ā Weak Point AttacksM.
Elder god draco. If I dont have a diamond with brutality set, what change should i do in your talent tree?
Deathmark
Ok ty
Yo whatās the best talent tree set up for this tower
Offense: Lion Stance1Ā ā Precision4Ā ā Lin Kuei Tutorage1Ā ā Black Dragon Training3Ā ā Shirai Ryu TeachingsMĀ ā Lightning Blow3Ā ā Brutal EndingM.
Defense: Hawk StanceMĀ ā Stalwart DefenseM.
Support: Mongoose Stance1Ā ā TeamworkMĀ ā Live for the Battle1Ā ā Meditation1Ā ā Weak Point AttacksM.
I get this one from draco.
Thank you so much
Do I need weak points
You don't need it, it's just helpful
Because my mk11 team doesn't have power drain except for mk11 raiden
I don't have him
But i bet you have many other characters with powerdrain
Sorry
Ok is there any replacement for the brutql ending
Because I don't have any brutality set except for rain and I don't have rain
Death mark technique
^
Deathmark or you can just save those 10 points youāre about to invest and put them into other talents
Just max lightning blow then
Ok
Isn't shirai ryu teachings supposed to give you a little nore extra power when you get hit by a critical hit?
It isnt working for me
You get more power from critical hits against the opponent
Does it make much of a difference
Cuz my coslk is first and he takes quite a lot of hp at the start but if I need to go for bone shield will it make much of a difference?
On resetting and making it one?
Can someone ping me on replying
Helpful on some occasions, but Precision is more recommended
Bone Shield is not so reliable, so, just use this or Precision
100
What should I max first?
How does he have 102 points
If you created account from 2017, you will get more than 100 skill points. The reason is on 2017, Shao Kahn Tower has Tutorial match which give you free talent points. Now ? Tutorial match was removed so we only have 100 points. š
what talents give for points shao khan
No Shao Kahn tower gives talent points for the talent tree on the first run but any other run they only give fragments for relic hunt.
Relic Hunt gives fragments that can unlock Shao Kahn but keep playing Shao Kahn tower until you max out Shao Kahn
Is there a talent tree for healing to get the most of of it ?
Well in support there mongoose stance that gives recovery but if you want a lot of recovery from support I suggest invest your points into it up to outworld scourge but other than that nope
Ok
Warlocks spell boost regen and life drain, cards like kl mileena, vamp mileena, ravenous mileena, unstoppable jason, dotd kitana, also armor from tower like edt, dynasty uniform.
What are the best talents for mk11 scorp?
precision, cruel affliction, rapid response, black dragon training, meditation, outworld scourge, hawk stance
Ty
I honestly don't see a single character where is worth boosting dots over crits
@dapper igloo this tree i used for 190-200.
Thanks @wispy wedge I took the SS of ur tree š
It's basically cnw's tree but i changed cruel affliction to thunderous blows cuz i don't use any dots
Yo, I dont see u using support. So no weak point attacks. Then how do u snare?
Wpa is a must for me with kcjc to snare on sp1
I have Jerrod's spear so it's like a pocket wpa for me
Didn't mention that sry mb
I got jerrod spear as well...so does it work like a charm without wpa?
I got it at f0
Yeah i got it f1! For me it works like a charm so yeah. But if you aren't comfortable with that you can change it to wpa and with Jerrod's spear for some bonus chance to snare
It's the perfect addition for my kcjc. Snare chance and also got offence and defence tree.
Oh ya jerrod spear is absolutely needed in that sense. The only reason I'm using support is for wpa
But right now centurian defense is more important to me than wpa for 199
Yeah just get it and jerrod spear if you want to snare and kill them 1 by 1
Is bone shield worth it
No
You have to take in special attacks for it
Talent pointsā¦
In which tree offence defence or the other one I donāt know about the name
Defense
Ok and wdym you have to take in special attacks for it
It only triggers when you get hit with a special attack, and itās only 30% for it
Ok
Rate my new setup
I dont think oia tech and fujin boon are absolute musts to fuse
Mine is kinda better tbh
My talents are a lot different and I feel good with them
Make some of those to 1 and try getting bone shield
Also Id take cyber lk programming and RD training over fujin if I had to choose
And death mark techniques
It'll help you beat higher fusion Jason and prevents ressurucion
Way too reliant on defense, unbridled savagery is a useless talent
Kl scorpion š¤·āāļø
I beat shao Kahn's tower with my team
Focusing your talent tree on one character? š¤Ø
Just one talent
Alr Iāll change it
Also that 30% damage boost can be fulfilled through other ways, like crits and stuff like that
To be fair lightning blow and tsunami arent too much better
Rapid response already fulfills that 30%
Just not sure I would spend 5 points there
Cos lk right?
Yeah, Iād consider Lightning Blow the best talent in that tier though. Can come really clutch
Perfect for SP1 spammers
Stunned and frozen take 50% more damage
Another crappy 15% talent
Enhanced cripple, also takes out the SP3
And combat shotgun fusion X for him
The start of the match I take 25% of upto 75k hp
Try getting bone shield and death mark at least one
It's gonna make a huge difference
You might want to use #šÆ-towers-relic-hunt, you wont get much attention posting on the wrong channel
Now howās this one
Thatās better, support gets a little bit of love too
Instead of Boar I wouldāve gone for Horse, and probably Teamwork instead of SO Tactics
But, itās looking good. Really heavy on defense, balanced on offense, support gets a little bit as well
Boar is the only substantial talent there so long as you are using a stunner
Comes in handier than a weak one personally
Was amazing when shield break used to stack though, I loved stacking shield breaks with Boar Stance honestly
I need to drop WPA too, was only using it for inj raiden
Iām guessing you have Jerrod Spear
I was confused when the sheild didnāt stack with kl Kano. I was disappointed when this bug came out
Otherwise I wouldnāt let go of WPA lol
No, I just prefer cripple+frostbite and straight snares
I see
I have bone shield maxed out also
What is with all these people using fujin boon
B-BEAR STANCE?
Yessir
And fujinās boon, if the chance was higher it wouldāve been so good
Ghost armor is as much of a sin as bear stance for me

Yeah
Ghost Armor is one of the most overrated talents ever
And yeah Fujin boon at 1 is not gonna help at all
At 1 itās like what, a 10% chance?
Bone sheild isnāt that good
I dont get how you guys see math but I just dont see it
1/10 of times it will trigger
It is
It isnāt
You have to take in special attacks
Every battle I get at least twice
For a chance at bone sheild
Boneshoeld plus revenant is insane
This tree is just too reliant on defense, revenant is good enough but bone shield is taking it too far
But you could have saved that 10 points for something else
^
Fair. Iāve always hated bone shield, just never had the luck to properly trigger it
Now Iām starting to think that my previous talent tree wasnāt so bad compared to this one
Yours is definitely defense heavy but you spent on the right talents
Thing is bone shield revenant used to be the only good talents for the longest time
Alongside teammwork
Thatās true. Good old days
Offense was such a bad joke
You can still do brutalities on bone sheild now
God
With the addition of brutal ending and DM along with some other changes, offense can be taken seriously now lol
It was so crap it was really easy to improve
Lmao true
@forest current precision is an important talent
I suggest you keeping it
Everyone too indeed
What does precision do?
@narrow olive ?????
Is my talent tree good right now?
Like my team is that so is it?
Precision doesn't depend on team
It increases combo ender chance
And are you using dot team?
You got cruel affliction and unbridled savagery
The tree is fine but relying on dots can give hard time against d raiden, mk11 team with jade and klk
Lightning blow cripples enemies on sp1 quite a lot, which is good if they donāt have cripple on sp1
For skorp, that saved me a lot when I either did it while they were blocked. Or failed hilariously at getting 91 or up
I find them all equally unimportant personally, tsunami and savagery a tiny bit lower than lightning blow so go for it if you wanna spend 5 points on it
Else it doesnt really matter
A tree that give cos a boost
Do i choose 17% crit chance over sp1 dmg
And crit dmg over sp2
?
If you like using characters that spam sp1 (Johnny, scorpion, etc) go for sp1
I personally pick crit chance over it
And crit damage if you picked crit chance
@junior tendon
Maybe go with crit chance + crit damage
Or even crit chance + sp2 damage if you spam special 2
1.5x normal damage
Can i even get 100% crit ?
From 3yo gear
Wantwd to max crit cos sub zero
Royal wine from Edenian tower gives luck on combo ender
You donāt really need to since he has lethals
?
Sub Zero has lethal hits
Lethal hits = 300% damage
He already has 15% chance for lethal attacks so Iād rather give critical hit chance to another CoS member
Maybe Kung Lao
Not really, unless you really want to make him a powerhouse
I would just give him power gen, attack boost, and probably brutality gear
CoS Sub Zero with brutality is amazing
No problem then, just give him the usual
Before leaving
Power generation and stuff like that
-50% sp2 /
Yes, that as well
And his dagger
Then rest are either taoughness and power generator or hp and -crit
Toughness isnāt that good of a stat
CoS Sub Zero would appreciate health boost and power generation a lot
Storm hat is one of the only armors that gives toughness and power gen
Itās just a saying
Just a phrase
But really he reaches his peak with brutality gear. If no brutality gear, give him health boost and power generation
So now my liu kang have 60% lethal chance
Yeah, in FW
And sub zero hp and power
Who third ?
I used jax
For extra hp
And invuluntry
I would go for Kung Lao if you want to make the ultimate damage dealing CoS Team but Jax is fine too
Iād say use Kung Lao
Kung Lao is better
Jax is the worst out of the 6 CoS cards but that does not mean he is bad, there are just better options
For his 40% chance and 1.5 bar?
Yes
Hmm
You have 3 damage dealers on the team that way
No, you can use Jax, however like I said there are better options
If you want to make the best CoS Team, Kung Lao is the guy
Kintana seem meh and quan chi need unblock chance
Quan Chi already has unblockable chance from his passive
Kitana is a good damage dealer, just a little slow
What you need to know is, the best CoS Teams are:
Liu Kang, Sub Zero, Quan Chi
Liu Kang, Sub Zero, Kung Lao
You can use either of those combinations
Quan Chi would be a good holder for the hammer, I usually give him max critical hit chance
Other than that you can give Liu critical hits
And go with crit from talent tree
Yeah
Yes, I usually go for Thunderous Blows and Rapid Response because they are guaranteed to work, and not reliant on chance
26% SP1 damage boost and 30% SP2 damage boost, sounds great to me
But sp1 wont be that great dmg so i think crit chance work
Of course it will
Best for characters with strong SP1ās
Sub Zero and Liu Kang have very strong SP1ās
You can think outside of the box. Johnny and Scorpion characters can also benefit greatly from Rapid Response
Yes, I would say SP1 damage boost
Crit chance is miles better unless ur crit gear is sucky
Cyber Lin kuei programming vs red dragon training. For the edenian tower
Cyber if you want to spend only 1 point, red if ur planning on spending 5
Any suggestions?
My b for low quality i had to take a pic of my iPad lol @junior tendon
O.I.A tech is better than ghost armor
How many points you have ? (Total)
0 rn lmao
And show me your team/cards
Cuz with ghost armor you rely on getting hit to gain power
Even at 5 its nearly useless
Hello, what is the best way to improve my talents? And how many times can I reset them? I was innactive for long time and don't know about it Thanks
@lavish cedar unlimited times
And there are no improve just adjustment
Ohh thanks, its because for the moment I have just 35 points for talents and dont know where to use it
@lavish cedar if you active i can guide you
But best in tree are
Atk :sp1 and sp2 dmg boost
Def:revevant and bone sheild (debuff -30% the best there)
I can agree with sp2 boost somewhat but not rapid response, its not better than 17% crit chance bonus for all kards
I say about his collection
If he has crit gear then i would have said go for crit chance
Yes, now Im playing every day and in past I was very active
Crits are always better
So what's a good talent tree for klk build with sf scorpion and smoke this is what I'm running so far
Why aren't you using brutal ending?
You have brutality
Also what were you thinking while making that supportš
Horse stance and teamwork are the ones to be taken
Spec ops tactics fine if you tag in and out a lot
But get 1 point on combat veteran and max weak points
Spec ops is useful in edt due to modifier like high voltage
Yeah if you tag in and out a lot. Cuz klk has cripple on tag in so he must be tagging a lot
Me on the other hand use mk11 scorp and jade
So high voltage fire heals and gives power
And no tagging out
Guys, if we already wear brutality set, do we still need this talent tree?
Whatās the different with and without this talent?
Thanks bud!
I was copying the YouTuber mand just to give it a try. But I already changed my talent again
Plus the brutal ending is bugged. It's not activating 100% of the time like it's advertised as
It isnt
Its 40% chance for brutality combo
Brutal ending is chance that the combo will kill the opponent immideately
Well maybe not for you. But when you put 5 pts in it says 100% activation
100% chance that special combo ender will kill the opponent
Equipments say 40% chance for special combo
It doesn't kill it says chance for combo
If you have like 2 points on brutal ending, it will say 40% chance to kill opponent
Means 40% to do the combo but 60% chance it wont kill
Why does the gear say 40 but the talent 100 lol that's wack
40% chance to kill on special combo
I didn't even fully read the gear
Chance to do special combo
And chance to kill opponent
Are 2 different things
Special combo has chance to kill opponent when below 25%
Which is 100 when brutal ending is maxed
But chance to do the combo is 40%
I realized that now but back then I was pissed because I did like 5 combos on a boss whose health was under 25% and it wasn't triggering
I was getting hella mad
I did like 9 combos for brutality
Revenant saved my a$$ that time
Or my attempt would be wasted
It was like 20 seconds left at normal 130 and both bosses were 20%. I did 4 combos. No brutality. In 5th 1 brut and 6th another in the last second
And my revenant never triggers for me so I play my game without it anymore. I tried to play with stuff that gives a flat boost now
I'm so tired of this games rng
It doesn't work in fw
you can guys try combat veteran + the skill that gives power gen on critical hit taken. Works like a charm
I was pretty surprised
Ghost armor?
No teamwork?
There is teamwork
Only one point spent on it though, for the sake of meditation and Outworld scourge, my favorite combo
With maxed teamwork, teammates gets a bar of.power after the current character performs 2 bars of power
If it werenāt for hawk stance, I wouldāve maxed teamwork
Power is not an issue for me anyways
It is for me, Sonya performs 2 sp1, Johnny comes in and lands an unblockable special attack
I always leave my characters off with 1-2 bars of power to prepare for the next moves
For KC Team, I already charge Johnny up with 1.5 bars of power. Tag out to Sonya, shield break, tag to Johnny again, voila. He has 2 bars of power, and now Outworld scourge lets me spam SP1 for days
I have tons of videos using this type of tree, support and offense
How does Johnny starts with 1.5 bars of power?
I CHARGE up power for Johnny before tagging out, meaning I do a couple of basic attacks then tag out
Ooh
Especially when Iām in trouble, like being effected with Blind or Cripple
Try to get as much as power as possible, then tag out. Sonya does her job, tag Johnny back in, spam SP1. Simple, rinse and repeat
What if you start with Sonya and she does the basic attack Johnny is meant to do, and with that, you gain shield break and along with that, Johnny can come in and do his sp1 while shield break is on them
This is an example of exactly what I do: #šÆ-towers-relic-hunt message
Itās a simple strategy, just keep repeating the process and youāre golden. Kano gets shredded with 4 Johnny SP1ās, no problem
This was back in the day when shield break stacked, oh how I miss those days 
Notice how Johnny already has 2 bars of power before tagging out. Sonya does her job, then I tag to Johnny WITH enemyās shield broken, and just destroy them
Yeah
Outworld Scourge triggers a couple of times too, itās why I use that talent. Very underrated, but Iām spreading some awareness on this talent. Many people have used my talent tree and loved it, and Iām proud of that 
Thanks! And yeah I donāt like to rely on defense too much, hawk stance is enough
Revenant is just OK for beginners and mid-game players
Iām more mid
I use outworld scourge but I use revenant and bone shield
Bone shield is something you shouldnāt waste points on. Revenant, thatās fine
Quite important in survivor mode
I heat hit by an attack like KW Sonyaās sp2 and I feel disappointed
Eh I donāt know, Iāve been running without revenant for a long time and Iāve been reaching Champion every single season, no problems whatsoever 
Yeah, I attempt Elder sometimes. Highest Iāve gone was 14
This season, since my strongest diamond is on bonus, Iām very confident that I can beat Elder
F9 MK11 Jade, F7 MK11 Raiden, F4 MK11 Scorpion
Maybe I should try your talent tree
Go for it if youād like, you wonāt regret it. Like iāve said, many people have used my talent tree in order to beat battles in towers they are stuck on, and it works like a charm for them
Itās just a good talent tree in every mode, you wonāt really feel the need to change it
I can't see the link againš¬
^
Thanks, but why brutal ending?
Because I have brutalities..
DM Technique is more versatile, so you can change it up and try DM Technique instead of Brutal Ending
Feel free to mix things up, not like you have to copy the talent tree word for word
I don't like wasting 12 souls all the timeš
When youāre poor, 12 souls means a lot, so yeah I understand 
I am not poor, just that when I change it, I will change it again and again and again and it keeps going on In just one day
I mean itās just 12 souls, worth a 1h quest
You have to adapt anyways so itās obviously going to add up
But then again, we are earning ALL the time, so itās not that big of an issue
That's what they want you to think, imagine 12 souls per day
Or twice per day
^
We make hundreds per day, 12-24 souls wouldnāt make much of a difference
You can just make that up by watching ads lol
It does
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Let's just forget itš
Donāt worry about it, with my talent tree you wonāt have to reset 
@rancid flare i saw in chat that most people have 100 points while i have 102 will this get me banned or it is just cause i played in the past as the normal was 102?
1: why would you ask him
2: it's fine, i have 107 myself
This explains it perfectly
And donāt worry, you wonāt get banned
just wanted to make sure , and thought that they made it fixed at 100 so if mine was bugged i may get banned , i didnt know who to ask and bruh was giving advice upove so tried asking him
#1 was uncalled for Draco 
good to know

What draco gotta 107?.
I know some had 102 . Man that sucks. I'm stuck with 100:(
That's not fair
Maybe they should just give all players 110 points.
Thatās too much. I just want enough to max every single talent. Thatās not a lot to ask for right 
Would enough points to get the final skill in all three trees be too overpowered?
No no⦠thatās easy to deal with. Just 100 free special attacks in a row and a bunch of power on Crits, you know, not too bad
Look I don't want problems with anybody here who disagrees but in my opinion either we all have 107 or all have 100 because having 107 points means you got one whole talent maxed out over everybody else
102 isn't so bad. It's just 2 points not a big deal
Maybe if we had enough total points that we'd be only able to max two sets.
So if you want all three you wouldn't be able to maximize a certain set over another
For example
Offense/Defense
Offense/support
Defense/Support
Although this is just a theory
7 points does have an impact when it can be used to max powerful talent like brutal ending, or any other that otherwise impossible.
#š²-talent-tree message
Here is my talent tree, all focused on dealing the maximum amount of damage with free SP1ās and special attack damage boosts, and a little sprinkle of defense with the addition of hawk stance
@rancid flare can I use black dragon training instead of rapid response
Sure, I just use Rapid Response because:
- I use SP1 oriented characters a LOT
- Itās guaranteed to work, unlike BD Training, which is reliant on chance
Then go for death mark
@rancid flare I'm send my talent tree wait a sec

You seem like you are a veteran, so thereās not much need to rely on defense
I donāt rely on revenant or bone shield at all, just hawk stance in defense tree and Iām doing fine
You can save tons of points by just letting go of defense as a whole
Invest them into damage dealing talents, thatās what offense + support has
Yeah revenant doesn't trigger a single time
Yup, thatās the thing. All based on luck
@rancid flare yes
Equipments such as living dead and frost orb can fulfill the role of revenant anyways
how can i make it better?
is there anything better i can spend the bone shield points on? idk it doesnt seem to help very much
@silent mirage which team are u using on tower
That's what hackers already do, just face them and come back to tell me if you liked it
107 because of a years old bug that happened while i wasn't even playing
And since the game is single player "fair" is an abstract concept that i don't care for
Donāt use bone shield
And use hawk stance instead of bear stance
And do Lin kuei reservance instead of shirai ryu
klassic kano, venomous devorah and mournful kitana

ah okie
What battle are you even on with that team?
122 lol
theyre all maxed
Yeah but, they have no synergy
D'vorah works in a dot team, and good luck using her against bosses
Same for kitana and kano
yeah bosses do screw me over
ill send my collection? could you help me make a team?
done
Donāt get shinnoks teachings. Use that 5 points to upgrade another thing
Like centaurian defense or hawk stance
Yeye thats what i meant
So these 5 points are useless?
Yes
Ok when i reset it tell me what to upgrade
Support is good. Boar stance is good for kw teams and breaking opponents shields
Well i didnt like the support passive as the attack and defence
If you are taking about when you use the 5 points and it boosts your stats a tiny bit, thatās useless
Nono not the recovery boost
Bar
Also in defence im gonna remove these 5 points
I was dumb
Yk
But in attack i haveit maxed
Cuz death mark
Recovery is very very good
But donāt go for the stat boost with the extra 5 points. Only boosts it a tiny bit
That is good if your stats are low
Can you show me your full tree
Change thunderous blows to shirai ryu teachings
Im thinking of upgrading the crit dmg boost and crit chance
What is shirai ryu teaching again
Crit dmg boost?
No
No itās crit chance
My grammar is bad
Thatās alr
15% chance to cripple the opponents X-ray and specials on a special attack
Chance to disable all special attacks on sp1, xrays too
Also swap stalwart defense with intimidating presence. Swap ghost armor with OIA tech and finally get Fujins boom instead of cyber Lin keui programming
Doing sp2 on sp1 characters doesn't sound like a smart thing to do
There are some characters where you should sp1 spam. Thatās for Most of them
Like hanzo
But not my cos liu and kc sonya
I spam hanzo's sp1
But not sonya or liu cuz low dmg
But it still better than the one im using rn
Almost always do lius sp1. Itās snares the opponent and thatās really good
Abslolutly there. Tag out goro and snare smoke
Fujin boon only if you are planning to spend 5 points on it, and even then it doesnt have a great chance to trigger
Can anyone share their talent tree for fatal tower with gold cards
Here you go: #š²-talent-tree message
Great talent tree for KC Team
Thank u

How's my talent tree? I feel offense is the least important because you can use gear to replace it or reset your talents
That was 98 talents very disappointing
Definitely get precision to 4+ points
Anyone have a good talent tree for survivor mode?
Hawk stance is good
hey @tame knoll
Hey
how did u get the precision
Talent points
bruh lemme show
Huh?
I can't
Look what it says on the bottom right
Press the add button
āAdd more talent points to advance to the next tierā
Add 5 and move onto the next tier
But he only added one
What?
Look
Do you uh, understand how talent trees work my friend
You donāt need to max that talent to add the 5
You just need one point in to get the 5
Press +ADD and add 5 points in order to advance to the next tier, simple
Iāll reset my tree and show you how it works. Iāll take a video
The talents in the first tier are not worth spending more than one point on
I think teamwork
Yes
Support is the most important
To get sp2 in seconds
That's how I made a X-ray team without hellspawn scorpion or another character
Also
You get 60% more power on your other card for using a special attack on one
Character
Yep
No
If you ever see someone recommending bear stance over hawk, block that person as he is clearly out of his mind or trolling
I mean...since I run anti-dot teams or plenty of anti-debuff gear I tend not to use hawk stance
Well, it stacks
Always better having it that not
Consider it a +20% on all your equipments
Do I really need 120% chance to resist things like stun though?
If you get 100% stun resistance on all your characters congrats
It covers you from all debuffs anyway, even those without equipments to resist it like freeze
Or incurability
Freeze is countered by Telogreika, and incurability is easy to prevent by not allowing the opponent to hit sp2
Telogreika makes you invulnerable while frozen, but you need fx
I know
I mean you can't deny that it's better having a base +20% on everything
Characters like diamond cassie and jason can get 100% immunity to everything only with it
80% from equipments and 20% from hawk stance
Smoke goes up to 90% with it
Tremor mask and their legacy rare actually, or dinasty mask at F5+
Yes
I mean that without it they can't
Unless they use dinasty mask but then you're using 3 equipments for the same thing
If I have gear to make it 100% immunity, then it is a waste to have the points there, otherwise having Hawk can be ok
Gear works only on one character, hawk stance is for the whole team
Compared to the other 2 options hawk is superior by far
And yeah, that
How do you perform a fatal blow
It's simply an xray for mk11 characters
revenant its a must for towers?
Not at all. In fact you donāt need any defensive talent at all in order to be successful in any mode
You can just grab hawk stance, that is a pretty important talent, and thatās it
I have been going strong without defense for a long while now, no problems whatsoever
i remember when i used that talent before and saved my life many times
idk if i use again
If youāre a beginner/mid-game then itās fine to have revenant
Once you become more experienced, you donāt need to waste points and rely on revenant anymore
I am an end game player, many of us here are end game players and most of us donāt rely on revenant
Itās not very overpowered at all, one deathmark destroys revenant
Go for offense + support. My talent tree is linked right here: #š²-talent-tree message
If you want to stay reliant on defense, there are several talent trees in the pinned messages which come from the best MKM players in this server, as well as a couple of MKM YouTubers like MAND, KC Mobile Gaming, and CrisplayTV
the power drain and sp1 support tree talents are not much of a focus for my team. I read the pdf pin and liked the suggestions, I just came to answer the question about renevant being an essential talent.
probably i will focus on atk and def talents
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How do you play? Do you play more offensive or defensive
Use what I use. Let me find it
okay
why not horse stance and teamwork
I like boar stance better. And I updated it a couple days ago. I use teamwork now
Wym by āend gameā player?
Oh yeah no, I meant by account 
Excuse me, can you explain about it ? I don't understand how stun resistance affect to all other debuffs ? š¦
It... doesn't
he talked about hawk stance, which gives universal resistance to all debuffs
Does the soul count double everytime you reset, or does it exponentially grow?
it will be capped at 12 souls
Thank you!
If youāre more of a beginner and want to rely on defense, revenant
Other than that if you are a experienced player and you feel like you donāt need to rely on defense anymore, Outworld scourge
Both are great talents
Itās all about luck
It be like that sometimes
lol
Revenant has this weird thing where the definition of a lethal hit is so absurd that multi hit specials have a higher chance to trigger it
Like you are rarely getting killed by say Klassic Raiden sp2 unless ur deathmarked
Hi do you know how to build a tree of talents, is couse of my team i use a lot klasic meleena, i thinks she must be diamond for her sustain, but i cannot face a full team of mk11 is disgusting and with that rain mk 11 with edenian items theyre invinsible help i try everything. Is fatal tower and my milena is elite 8
Hey guys I just got mk11 rain from edeninan tower and I want to build myself a mk11 team any tips?
Max out revenant and shinnoks teachings for bone shield
I alr have the talent tree from Mand
Raiden and shang but i don't see how is that related to talents
And about talents, defense is not as good as offense since the rework
The only really useful talents except hawk stance are revenant and boneshield but they rely on chance
Yeah itās fine for now, once you finish Shao Kahn Tower youāll be able to fully experience the talent tree aspect
Spend on Horse Stance with the remaining points and thatās pretty much it
Put something in there. Like get boar stance or horse stance. If you can get teamwork
I dont like the passives
They are good
Support is good. Teamwork and spec ops tactics are very useful. Also boar stance is good
Also i cant play without the death mark OR the armor that applies when ur about to die
Death mark technique isnāt needed. Revenant is something that I canāt play without though. But while DM technique is good you donāt need it all the time. Go up to black dragon technique and thatās where you should stop. And if you nave bone sheild get rid of it. Itās useless
@willow wharf
I dont have bone sheild
Ok good
Hi
Yo lost
No itās really not. Most people are special one spammers anyways. Get rid of that immediately
I do dm for extra dmg
10% is good
When it is 20% it is too good
Yeah but thatās also 10 points you could have saved
I achieve insane dmg with it
Bro the bar is ruining
Do not get bone sheild
Can you also send yours?
Pain i use discord on my ios
When i open the laptop iwill share it
why not art of tsunami
That barely gets any damage anyways. Lightning blow is the most useful
okay true
Get rid of thunderous blows and change it for sr teachings
So i removed these 5 points in the defence bar cuz usless
No unblock is too good in tower
Got lightning blow to 4
what does it too
But the extra damage is nothing
And added on the frost bite 1
Idk what else
Disables enemy X-ray and special attacks for 5 seconds on sp1 use. 15% chance when maxed
the shirai ryu teachings
I use kl raiden and sfs to drain power usually so i dont need it
Really? That isnāt a very smart move. Sp1 gets more damage than saving up to sp2. More special ones
I ise klk more
Critical hits get more power on impact
Sp2 in 2 basics is good
how many power when maxed
My klk generation is 154%
Those are a few players but donāt use that.
I dont use hanzo sp2 that much but i also dont use Sonya's sp1 that much yk
Idk I donāt use it but itās the best out of those options
Really??? Always do sonyas sp1!!! Which Sonya are we talking about
what is better precison or opportunist
Yeah still do her special one. Only do sp2 to get an opponent out
Precision. Max it out
But her sp2 is op
on my main i dont use offence
But nothing bad happens if you max it
only def and sup
I always get combo ender
Offense is the best tree tho
Only to get someone out. Do her special one most of the time. Only do the sp2 to get someone out or to make sure you kill them. But mostly do the sp1
i need weak point attacks
Alr
No itās not needed. Good but not necessary
I have it too
Maxed offense and wpa in support
So i think that what i use wait till i type it
Defense is not needed except hawk stance
but revenant and bone shield tho
Yeah, not needed
rrly
Because of precision
70% base chance for it to happen. The precision gives the last 30
im at battle 197 normal tower and i think i need it
Haven't used in over a year and i won every tower without it so yeah...
Oh thats why
Combo enders are the best
Its hard to play without them
My offence tree
Tiger Stance/
Precision/
Lin Kuei Tutorage/
Black Dragon Training/Thunderous Blows/
Unbridled Savagery/
Death Mark Technique.
ima change my talent tree tell me what the best is
Depend on card yo know
U should get lightning blow instead of unbridled
what is the best talent tree
3% is too low i prefer gurantee 30% dmg boost for unblock
@smoky sentinel do u think mine is goid
Rng is not on my side
@smoky sentinel what is the best talent tree
There are no best but suitable
There is no best talent tree
Look at your cards choice the ones you use the most then adjust it to make the best out of them
Go def
Sup not worth it
Same
You can live fine without defense
In our opinion dont attack @@smoky sentinel
You play better when you don't rely on rng to save your ass
And life fine without sup too
What
Excatly
Wait ima show mine
No problems at all
There
Btw removed these 5 points in the def bar cuz usless
And upgraded other passives
And got lightning blow instead of unbridled
Basically you need both dm and revenant
Ye
Unless you have brutality gear
I dont
Then as i said
but in the pinned it says Aeeaa yo soy Kabalero
ima use sub zero his tt
If not brutal ending use deathmark
Why
Save
idk bro
?
Its good beo
should i just try both
Bro*
Try mine first
Ye
sure
Just test
where is it
Eh, some talents are just worthless if not maxed
Pinned guide
Then you will found the best one for you
Bro when i got mk11 scorp today
It was
but which one is it
Hmmm interesting
Maxed the support cards
@smoky sentinel i dont see it
Either way you will have a lot eventually might spend
Good
Scroll down till u see "elder god draco's talent tree"
You can try bruh tt
i found it
@smoky sentinel whats the best team in ur opinion
Mk11s
Mk11
It's even a question?
Hehe
No i mean
Then kw
Mk11 are superior
Cuz hes goated
š
LMAO
okay i have ur whole talent tree @smoky sentinel
For cripple ?
now ima try battle 197 normal tower
Scorp already cripples, its a redudant unnecesary teamup
Wasted just pit them together as devs made it
Everything in klk is good except his sp2 when hes in fire dot
I mean its good but the sec one is much betyer
It is too good
Better*
Its mostly normal sp2 being a lot better, but yeah being on fire sucks
Ye
Depend on enemy
No
If ur playing against scorp then ur winning prob
Sp2 purpose is stun
Hanzo isnt good against klk
No stun no time to swap
Klk is bleed immune and heals by fore
Kinda like that
Fire*
Klk is the rival of mk11s
Wait until you face mk11 scorpion with srt equipments
Its a shorter animation, being on fire actually makes you lose damage
