#🌲-talent-tree

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rancid flare
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1, I see. Did you get precision in offense tree

vocal crystal
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nope, only put 1 talent point into tiger stance

rancid flare
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Yeah that’s alright, once you finish shao kahn tower you’ll experience the talent tree fully

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Hawk and horse stance are just fine

vocal crystal
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do i put my talent points in anything else? i have 1 extra

rancid flare
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Just put it into Tiger stance

vocal crystal
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you said to never max it ;-;

rancid flare
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What else are you gonna do with that talent point

vocal crystal
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idk i have no idea what i could've done

rancid flare
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I would rather invest in a talent than going for the next tier

rancid flare
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Once you get the full 100 talent points, you can reset your tree

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For the first time it’s free, and it caps to 12 souls

vocal crystal
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oh okay

shy oracle
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Is the damage of dis tree big?

rancid flare
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I would say, absolutely

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Hawk stance is all you need in defense, revenant + bone shield are unnecessary

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And of course, brutal ending is a great talent when you have brutalities. Precision is a must, thunderous blows + rapid response is a great combo

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Then, of course, my favorite tree. The support tree. Meditation + Outworld scourge is an outrageous combo

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You’re getting exactly what you need from this tree; the maximum amount of offense possible with a little sprinkle of defense

shy oracle
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Thanks u

true island
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Yo what should I use my talent points on?

dapper igloo
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Watch yt

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Thats what I did

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Huh?

dapper igloo
true island
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Ok thanks

dapper igloo
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whats the best talent tree?

smoky sentinel
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There is no such thing

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All about what you need

dapper igloo
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100%

broken ocean
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@dapper igloo

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this is just personally what i use

dapper igloo
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ty

pulsar sorrel
slender mist
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Can you get enough talent points to master every tree you do

pulsar sorrel
pulsar sorrel
slender mist
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Damn

pulsar sorrel
slender mist
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Well could I get a list of a good talent tree set up

smoky sentinel
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Maybe you want to check the pins

pulsar sorrel
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Bone shield doesn't negate DOT. "Shinnok Teaching" is really suck talent -_-

smoky sentinel
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It doesn't suck

pulsar sorrel
paper heron
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Offense: Lion Stance1 → Precision4 → Lin Kuei Tutorage1 → Black Dragon Training3 → Shirai Ryu TeachingsM → Lightning Blow3 → Brutal EndingM.

Defense: Hawk StanceM → Stalwart DefenseM.

Support: Mongoose Stance1 → TeamworkM → Live for the Battle1 → Meditation1 → Weak Point AttacksM.

Elder god draco. If I dont have a diamond with brutality set, what change should i do in your talent tree?

smoky sentinel
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Deathmark

paper heron
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Ok ty

uneven rune
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Yo what’s the best talent tree set up for this tower

paper heron
# uneven rune Yo what’s the best talent tree set up for this tower

Offense: Lion Stance1 → Precision4 → Lin Kuei Tutorage1 → Black Dragon Training3 → Shirai Ryu TeachingsM → Lightning Blow3 → Brutal EndingM.

Defense: Hawk StanceM → Stalwart DefenseM.

Support: Mongoose Stance1 → TeamworkM → Live for the Battle1 → Meditation1 → Weak Point AttacksM.

I get this one from draco.

uneven rune
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Thank you so much

smoky sentinel
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You don't need it, it's just helpful

ebon rock
smoky sentinel
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Sub0

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And btw i use this tree for EVERYTHING, not only one team

ebon rock
smoky sentinel
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But i bet you have many other characters with powerdrain

rancid flare
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Uhh

ebon rock
ebon rock
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Because I don't have any brutality set except for rain and I don't have rain

rancid flare
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Death mark technique

smoky sentinel
rancid flare
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Deathmark or you can just save those 10 points you’re about to invest and put them into other talents

ebon rock
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Okay thanks

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How I have 102

smoky sentinel
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Just max lightning blow then

ebon rock
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Ok

dapper igloo
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Isn't shirai ryu teachings supposed to give you a little nore extra power when you get hit by a critical hit?

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It isnt working for me

clever pawn
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You get more power from critical hits against the opponent

forest current
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Does it make much of a difference

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Cuz my coslk is first and he takes quite a lot of hp at the start but if I need to go for bone shield will it make much of a difference?

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On resetting and making it one?

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Can someone ping me on replying

hardy girder
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Helpful on some occasions, but Precision is more recommended

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Bone Shield is not so reliable, so, just use this or Precision

slender mist
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How many talent points are there max

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That you can get

hardy girder
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100

slender mist
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Ok

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Thanks

dapper igloo
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What should I max first?

forest current
pulsar sorrel
# forest current How does he have 102 points

If you created account from 2017, you will get more than 100 skill points. The reason is on 2017, Shao Kahn Tower has Tutorial match which give you free talent points. Now ? Tutorial match was removed so we only have 100 points. šŸ™‚

oak vapor
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what talents give for points shao khan

tame knoll
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None

dapper igloo
# oak vapor what talents give for points shao khan

No Shao Kahn tower gives talent points for the talent tree on the first run but any other run they only give fragments for relic hunt.

Relic Hunt gives fragments that can unlock Shao Kahn but keep playing Shao Kahn tower until you max out Shao Kahn

junior tendon
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Is there a talent tree for healing to get the most of of it ?

dapper igloo
junior tendon
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Ok

neon ether
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Warlocks spell boost regen and life drain, cards like kl mileena, vamp mileena, ravenous mileena, unstoppable jason, dotd kitana, also armor from tower like edt, dynasty uniform.

simple drum
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What are the best talents for mk11 scorp?

broken ocean
simple drum
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Ty

smoky sentinel
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I honestly don't see a single character where is worth boosting dots over crits

wispy wedge
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@dapper igloo this tree i used for 190-200.

dapper igloo
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Thanks @wispy wedge I took the SS of ur tree šŸ‘Œ

wispy wedge
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It's basically cnw's tree but i changed cruel affliction to thunderous blows cuz i don't use any dots

dapper igloo
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Wpa is a must for me with kcjc to snare on sp1

wispy wedge
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Didn't mention that sry mb

dapper igloo
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I got jerrod spear as well...so does it work like a charm without wpa?

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I got it at f0

wispy wedge
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Yeah i got it f1! For me it works like a charm so yeah. But if you aren't comfortable with that you can change it to wpa and with Jerrod's spear for some bonus chance to snare

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It's the perfect addition for my kcjc. Snare chance and also got offence and defence tree.

dapper igloo
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But right now centurian defense is more important to me than wpa for 199

wispy wedge
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Yeah just get it and jerrod spear if you want to snare and kill them 1 by 1

stable cape
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Is bone shield worth it

tame knoll
stable cape
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Why

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And how do you get revenant

tame knoll
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You have to take in special attacks for it

tame knoll
stable cape
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In which tree offence defence or the other one I don’t know about the name

tame knoll
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Defense

stable cape
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Ok and wdym you have to take in special attacks for it

tame knoll
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It only triggers when you get hit with a special attack, and it’s only 30% for it

stable cape
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Ok

tame knoll
clever pawn
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I dont think oia tech and fujin boon are absolute musts to fuse

forest current
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Mine is kinda better tbh

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My talents are a lot different and I feel good with them

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Make some of those to 1 and try getting bone shield

clever pawn
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Also Id take cyber lk programming and RD training over fujin if I had to choose

forest current
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And death mark techniques

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It'll help you beat higher fusion Jason and prevents ressurucion

rancid flare
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Way too reliant on defense, unbridled savagery is a useless talent

forest current
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I'll send mine after sometime

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Rate that

tame knoll
forest current
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I beat shao Kahn's tower with my team

rancid flare
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Focusing your talent tree on one character? 🤨

tame knoll
rancid flare
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You know the talent is kinda bugged right

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There is no point in using it

tame knoll
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Alr I’ll change it

forest current
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I'm battle 3 rn

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Cuz it resent

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Reset

rancid flare
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Also that 30% damage boost can be fulfilled through other ways, like crits and stuff like that

clever pawn
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To be fair lightning blow and tsunami arent too much better

rancid flare
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Rapid response already fulfills that 30%

clever pawn
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Just not sure I would spend 5 points there

forest current
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Cos lk right?

rancid flare
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Yeah, I’d consider Lightning Blow the best talent in that tier though. Can come really clutch

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Perfect for SP1 spammers

forest current
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Stunned and frozen take 50% more damage

clever pawn
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Another crappy 15% talent

rancid flare
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Enhanced cripple, also takes out the SP3

forest current
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And combat shotgun fusion X for him

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The start of the match I take 25% of upto 75k hp

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Try getting bone shield and death mark at least one

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It's gonna make a huge difference

clever pawn
tame knoll
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Now how’s this one

rancid flare
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That’s better, support gets a little bit of love too

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Instead of Boar I would’ve gone for Horse, and probably Teamwork instead of SO Tactics

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But, it’s looking good. Really heavy on defense, balanced on offense, support gets a little bit as well

clever pawn
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Boar is the only substantial talent there so long as you are using a stunner

rancid flare
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Yeah, but the thing is not everyone has stun

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Situational talent

clever pawn
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Comes in handier than a weak one personally

rancid flare
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Was amazing when shield break used to stack though, I loved stacking shield breaks with Boar Stance honestly

clever pawn
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I need to drop WPA too, was only using it for inj raiden

rancid flare
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I’m guessing you have Jerrod Spear

tame knoll
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I was confused when the sheild didn’t stack with kl Kano. I was disappointed when this bug came out

rancid flare
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Otherwise I wouldn’t let go of WPA lol

clever pawn
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No, I just prefer cripple+frostbite and straight snares

forest current
rancid flare
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I see

forest current
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I have bone shield maxed out also

clever pawn
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What is with all these people using fujin boon

rancid flare
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B-BEAR STANCE?

forest current
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Yessir

rancid flare
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And fujin’s boon, if the chance was higher it would’ve been so good

forest current
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I checked by resetting and I feel it's better

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Than both

clever pawn
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Ghost armor is as much of a sin as bear stance for me

rancid flare
clever pawn
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He has fujin boon at 1

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God

forest current
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Yeah

rancid flare
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Ghost Armor is one of the most overrated talents ever
And yeah Fujin boon at 1 is not gonna help at all

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At 1 it’s like what, a 10% chance?

tame knoll
clever pawn
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I dont get how you guys see math but I just dont see it

rancid flare
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1/10 of times it will trigger

forest current
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It is

rancid flare
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It isn’t

tame knoll
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You have to take in special attacks

forest current
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Every battle I get at least twice

tame knoll
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For a chance at bone sheild

forest current
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Boneshoeld plus revenant is insane

rancid flare
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This tree is just too reliant on defense, revenant is good enough but bone shield is taking it too far

tame knoll
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But you could have saved that 10 points for something else

rancid flare
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^

clever pawn
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Bone shield is usable for newbies

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After that its really lackluster

rancid flare
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Fair. I’ve always hated bone shield, just never had the luck to properly trigger it

tame knoll
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Now I’m starting to think that my previous talent tree wasn’t so bad compared to this one

rancid flare
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Yours is definitely defense heavy but you spent on the right talents

clever pawn
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Thing is bone shield revenant used to be the only good talents for the longest time

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Alongside teammwork

rancid flare
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That’s true. Good old days

clever pawn
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Offense was such a bad joke

tame knoll
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You can still do brutalities on bone sheild now

clever pawn
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God

rancid flare
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With the addition of brutal ending and DM along with some other changes, offense can be taken seriously now lol

clever pawn
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It was so crap it was really easy to improve

rancid flare
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Lmao true

forest current
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OP

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@clever pawn @rancid flare

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This and my defence are insane together

narrow olive
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@forest current precision is an important talent

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I suggest you keeping it

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Everyone too indeed

forest current
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What does precision do?

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@narrow olive ?????

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Is my talent tree good right now?

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Like my team is that so is it?

narrow olive
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It increases combo ender chance

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And are you using dot team?

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You got cruel affliction and unbridled savagery

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The tree is fine but relying on dots can give hard time against d raiden, mk11 team with jade and klk

sinful mulch
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Lightning blow cripples enemies on sp1 quite a lot, which is good if they don’t have cripple on sp1

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For skorp, that saved me a lot when I either did it while they were blocked. Or failed hilariously at getting 91 or up

clever pawn
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I find them all equally unimportant personally, tsunami and savagery a tiny bit lower than lightning blow so go for it if you wanna spend 5 points on it

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Else it doesnt really matter

junior tendon
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A tree that give cos a boost

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Do i choose 17% crit chance over sp1 dmg

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And crit dmg over sp2

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?

rotund adder
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If you like using characters that spam sp1 (Johnny, scorpion, etc) go for sp1

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I personally pick crit chance over it

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And crit damage if you picked crit chance

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@junior tendon

junior tendon
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I use sub zero liu kang and jax

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Cos

rotund adder
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Maybe go with crit chance + crit damage

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Or even crit chance + sp2 damage if you spam special 2

junior tendon
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Isnt crit do 1.5 normal dmg ?

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So crit seem more usefull

rotund adder
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1.5x normal damage

junior tendon
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Can i even get 100% crit ?

rancid flare
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Yes

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Using the power of equipments, talents, and specific passives

junior tendon
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From 3yo gear

rancid flare
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Yes

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Revolver shao kahn helmet and wrath hammer is already 95%

junior tendon
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Wantwd to max crit cos sub zero

rancid flare
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Royal wine from Edenian tower gives luck on combo ender

rancid flare
junior tendon
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?

rancid flare
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Sub Zero has lethal hits

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Lethal hits = 300% damage

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He already has 15% chance for lethal attacks so I’d rather give critical hit chance to another CoS member

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Maybe Kung Lao

junior tendon
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So no need for crit for sub zero ?

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And go all gear atk boost

rancid flare
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Not really, unless you really want to make him a powerhouse
I would just give him power gen, attack boost, and probably brutality gear

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CoS Sub Zero with brutality is amazing

junior tendon
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Dont have brutality gear at all

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Only shao zhan

rancid flare
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No problem then, just give him the usual

junior tendon
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Before leaving

rancid flare
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Power generation and stuff like that

junior tendon
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-50% sp2 /

rancid flare
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Yes, that as well

junior tendon
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And his dagger

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Then rest are either taoughness and power generator or hp and -crit

rancid flare
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Toughness isn’t that good of a stat

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CoS Sub Zero would appreciate health boost and power generation a lot

junior tendon
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All my power generator armor are tougness

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And how to make him power house?

rancid flare
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Storm hat is one of the only armors that gives toughness and power gen

rancid flare
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Just a phrase

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But really he reaches his peak with brutality gear. If no brutality gear, give him health boost and power generation

junior tendon
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So now my liu kang have 60% lethal chance

rancid flare
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Yeah, in FW

junior tendon
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And sub zero hp and power

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Who third ?

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I used jax

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For extra hp

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And invuluntry

rancid flare
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I would go for Kung Lao if you want to make the ultimate damage dealing CoS Team but Jax is fine too

junior tendon
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Have both

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Which better ?

rancid flare
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I’d say use Kung Lao

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Kung Lao is better

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Jax is the worst out of the 6 CoS cards but that does not mean he is bad, there are just better options

junior tendon
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For his 40% chance and 1.5 bar?

rancid flare
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Yes

junior tendon
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Hmm

rancid flare
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You have 3 damage dealers on the team that way

junior tendon
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So i only use jax in survival

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And the rest are kubg lao

rancid flare
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Go for the same team in survival

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Kung Lao has shield so he can tank for you

junior tendon
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Would that made jax collect dust ?

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And i have all 6 of them

rancid flare
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No, you can use Jax, however like I said there are better options

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If you want to make the best CoS Team, Kung Lao is the guy

junior tendon
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Kintana seem meh and quan chi need unblock chance

rancid flare
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Quan Chi already has unblockable chance from his passive

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Kitana is a good damage dealer, just a little slow

junior tendon
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The othe two in the team no

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Only him

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So will waste gear

rancid flare
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What you need to know is, the best CoS Teams are:
Liu Kang, Sub Zero, Quan Chi
Liu Kang, Sub Zero, Kung Lao

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You can use either of those combinations

junior tendon
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Who to give the hammer then?

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Sub or liu

rancid flare
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Quan Chi would be a good holder for the hammer, I usually give him max critical hit chance

Other than that you can give Liu critical hits

junior tendon
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And go with crit from talent tree

rancid flare
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Yeah

junior tendon
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But sp2 dmg instead of crit dmg

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Right?

rancid flare
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Yes, I usually go for Thunderous Blows and Rapid Response because they are guaranteed to work, and not reliant on chance

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26% SP1 damage boost and 30% SP2 damage boost, sounds great to me

junior tendon
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But sp1 wont be that great dmg so i think crit chance work

rancid flare
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Of course it will

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Best for characters with strong SP1’s

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Sub Zero and Liu Kang have very strong SP1’s

junior tendon
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So i go with sp1?

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Instead of crit chance

rancid flare
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You can think outside of the box. Johnny and Scorpion characters can also benefit greatly from Rapid Response

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Yes, I would say SP1 damage boost

clever pawn
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Crit chance is miles better unless ur crit gear is sucky

junior tendon
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Have some good ones

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But no armor

stuck geyser
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Cyber Lin kuei programming vs red dragon training. For the edenian tower

clever pawn
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Cyber if you want to spend only 1 point, red if ur planning on spending 5

simple drum
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Any suggestions?

stray forge
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My b for low quality i had to take a pic of my iPad lol @junior tendon

wispy wedge
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O.I.A tech is better than ghost armor

junior tendon
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How many points you have ? (Total)

stray forge
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0 rn lmao

junior tendon
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And show me your team/cards

wispy wedge
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Cuz with ghost armor you rely on getting hit to gain power

clever pawn
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Even at 5 its nearly useless

dapper igloo
knotty carbon
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a good talent tree for tower?

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Note: i have only 90 talent points or so

lavish cedar
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Hello, what is the best way to improve my talents? And how many times can I reset them? I was innactive for long time and don't know about it Thanks

junior tendon
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@lavish cedar unlimited times

junior tendon
lavish cedar
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Ohh thanks, its because for the moment I have just 35 points for talents and dont know where to use it

junior tendon
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@lavish cedar if you active i can guide you

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But best in tree are
Atk :sp1 and sp2 dmg boost
Def:revevant and bone sheild (debuff -30% the best there)

clever pawn
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I can agree with sp2 boost somewhat but not rapid response, its not better than 17% crit chance bonus for all kards

junior tendon
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I say about his collection

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If he has crit gear then i would have said go for crit chance

lavish cedar
smoky sentinel
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Crits are always better

stuck geyser
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So what's a good talent tree for klk build with sf scorpion and smoke this is what I'm running so far

narrow olive
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You have brutality

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Also what were you thinking while making that supportšŸ˜‘

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Horse stance and teamwork are the ones to be taken

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Spec ops tactics fine if you tag in and out a lot

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But get 1 point on combat veteran and max weak points

neon ether
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Spec ops is useful in edt due to modifier like high voltage

narrow olive
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Me on the other hand use mk11 scorp and jade

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So high voltage fire heals and gives power

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And no tagging out

uneven snow
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Guys, if we already wear brutality set, do we still need this talent tree?

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What’s the different with and without this talent?

hardy girder
uneven snow
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Thanks bud!

stuck geyser
narrow olive
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Lol

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I make my own tree as per I want

stuck geyser
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Plus the brutal ending is bugged. It's not activating 100% of the time like it's advertised as

narrow olive
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Its 40% chance for brutality combo

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Brutal ending is chance that the combo will kill the opponent immideately

stuck geyser
narrow olive
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Equipments say 40% chance for special combo

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It doesn't kill it says chance for combo

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If you have like 2 points on brutal ending, it will say 40% chance to kill opponent

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Means 40% to do the combo but 60% chance it wont kill

stuck geyser
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Why does the gear say 40 but the talent 100 lol that's wack

narrow olive
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40% chance to kill on special combo

stuck geyser
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I didn't even fully read the gear

narrow olive
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And chance to kill opponent

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Are 2 different things

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Special combo has chance to kill opponent when below 25%

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Which is 100 when brutal ending is maxed

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But chance to do the combo is 40%

stuck geyser
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I realized that now but back then I was pissed because I did like 5 combos on a boss whose health was under 25% and it wasn't triggering

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I was getting hella mad

narrow olive
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I did like 9 combos for brutality

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Revenant saved my a$$ that time

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Or my attempt would be wasted

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It was like 20 seconds left at normal 130 and both bosses were 20%. I did 4 combos. No brutality. In 5th 1 brut and 6th another in the last second

stuck geyser
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And my revenant never triggers for me so I play my game without it anymore. I tried to play with stuff that gives a flat boost now
I'm so tired of this games rng

mild cape
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you can guys try combat veteran + the skill that gives power gen on critical hit taken. Works like a charm

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I was pretty surprised

proven kiln
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No teamwork?

rancid flare
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There is teamwork

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Only one point spent on it though, for the sake of meditation and Outworld scourge, my favorite combo

proven kiln
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With maxed teamwork, teammates gets a bar of.power after the current character performs 2 bars of power

rancid flare
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If it weren’t for hawk stance, I would’ve maxed teamwork

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Power is not an issue for me anyways

proven kiln
rancid flare
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I always leave my characters off with 1-2 bars of power to prepare for the next moves

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For KC Team, I already charge Johnny up with 1.5 bars of power. Tag out to Sonya, shield break, tag to Johnny again, voila. He has 2 bars of power, and now Outworld scourge lets me spam SP1 for days

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I have tons of videos using this type of tree, support and offense

proven kiln
rancid flare
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I CHARGE up power for Johnny before tagging out, meaning I do a couple of basic attacks then tag out

proven kiln
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Ooh

rancid flare
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Especially when I’m in trouble, like being effected with Blind or Cripple

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Try to get as much as power as possible, then tag out. Sonya does her job, tag Johnny back in, spam SP1. Simple, rinse and repeat

proven kiln
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What if you start with Sonya and she does the basic attack Johnny is meant to do, and with that, you gain shield break and along with that, Johnny can come in and do his sp1 while shield break is on them

rancid flare
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This was back in the day when shield break stacked, oh how I miss those days TakedaLoL

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Notice how Johnny already has 2 bars of power before tagging out. Sonya does her job, then I tag to Johnny WITH enemy’s shield broken, and just destroy them

rancid flare
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Outworld Scourge triggers a couple of times too, it’s why I use that talent. Very underrated, but I’m spreading some awareness on this talent. Many people have used my talent tree and loved it, and I’m proud of that Clap

dapper igloo
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I started using yours

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Loving it, but no revenant

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Great tho

rancid flare
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Thanks! And yeah I don’t like to rely on defense too much, hawk stance is enough

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Revenant is just OK for beginners and mid-game players

dapper igloo
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I’m more mid

proven kiln
#

I use outworld scourge but I use revenant and bone shield

rancid flare
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Bone shield is something you shouldn’t waste points on. Revenant, that’s fine

proven kiln
#

Quite important in survivor mode

dapper igloo
#

I heat hit by an attack like KW Sonya’s sp2 and I feel disappointed

rancid flare
proven kiln
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Do you do elder?

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Cause sometimes I just wanna do it

rancid flare
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Yeah, I attempt Elder sometimes. Highest I’ve gone was 14

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This season, since my strongest diamond is on bonus, I’m very confident that I can beat Elder

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F9 MK11 Jade, F7 MK11 Raiden, F4 MK11 Scorpion

proven kiln
#

Maybe I should try your talent tree

rancid flare
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Go for it if you’d like, you won’t regret it. Like i’ve said, many people have used my talent tree in order to beat battles in towers they are stuck on, and it works like a charm for them

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It’s just a good talent tree in every mode, you won’t really feel the need to change it

proven kiln
#

I can't see the link again😬

rancid flare
#

^

proven kiln
#

Thanks, but why brutal ending?

rancid flare
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Because I have brutalities..

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DM Technique is more versatile, so you can change it up and try DM Technique instead of Brutal Ending

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Feel free to mix things up, not like you have to copy the talent tree word for word

proven kiln
#

I don't like wasting 12 souls all the timešŸ˜‚

rancid flare
#

When you’re poor, 12 souls means a lot, so yeah I understand TakedaLoL

proven kiln
#

I am not poor, just that when I change it, I will change it again and again and again and it keeps going on In just one day

rancid flare
#

I mean it’s just 12 souls, worth a 1h quest

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You have to adapt anyways so it’s obviously going to add up

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But then again, we are earning ALL the time, so it’s not that big of an issue

proven kiln
#

Or twice per day

rancid flare
#

We make hundreds per day, 12-24 souls wouldn’t make much of a difference

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You can just make that up by watching ads lol

proven kiln
#

It does

rancid flare
#

🤨

proven kiln
#

Let's just forget itšŸ˜‚

rancid flare
#

Don’t worry about it, with my talent tree you won’t have to reset GoroWinking

junior tendon
#

@rancid flare i saw in chat that most people have 100 points while i have 102 will this get me banned or it is just cause i played in the past as the normal was 102?

smoky sentinel
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1: why would you ask him
2: it's fine, i have 107 myself

rancid flare
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And don’t worry, you won’t get banned

junior tendon
rancid flare
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#1 was uncalled for Draco NM_peepoStares

junior tendon
rancid flare
stuck geyser
#

What draco gotta 107?.

I know some had 102 . Man that sucks. I'm stuck with 100:(

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That's not fair

spice tinsel
#

Maybe they should just give all players 110 points.

tame knoll
#

That’s too much. I just want enough to max every single talent. That’s not a lot to ask for right GoroWinking

spice tinsel
#

Would enough points to get the final skill in all three trees be too overpowered?

tame knoll
#

No no… that’s easy to deal with. Just 100 free special attacks in a row and a bunch of power on Crits, you know, not too bad

stuck geyser
#

Look I don't want problems with anybody here who disagrees but in my opinion either we all have 107 or all have 100 because having 107 points means you got one whole talent maxed out over everybody else

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102 isn't so bad. It's just 2 points not a big deal

stuck geyser
#

Although this is just a theory

neon ether
#

7 points does have an impact when it can be used to max powerful talent like brutal ending, or any other that otherwise impossible.

graceful tundra
#

What should I focused on talent tree without revenant

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Someone suggest me

rancid flare
graceful tundra
#

@rancid flare can I use black dragon training instead of rapid response

rancid flare
#

Sure, I just use Rapid Response because:

  1. I use SP1 oriented characters a LOT
  2. It’s guaranteed to work, unlike BD Training, which is reliant on chance
graceful tundra
#

@rancid flare yeah

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But I don't have any brutality gear

rancid flare
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Then go for death mark

graceful tundra
#

@rancid flare I'm send my talent tree wait a sec

rancid flare
graceful tundra
#

Here it is

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@rancid flare any tips

rancid flare
#

You seem like you are a veteran, so there’s not much need to rely on defense
I don’t rely on revenant or bone shield at all, just hawk stance in defense tree and I’m doing fine

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You can save tons of points by just letting go of defense as a whole

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Invest them into damage dealing talents, that’s what offense + support has

graceful tundra
#

Yeah revenant doesn't trigger a single time

rancid flare
#

Yup, that’s the thing. All based on luck

graceful tundra
#

@rancid flare yes

rancid flare
#

Equipments such as living dead and frost orb can fulfill the role of revenant anyways

silent mirage
#

how can i make it better?

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is there anything better i can spend the bone shield points on? idk it doesnt seem to help very much

graceful tundra
#

@silent mirage which team are u using on tower

smoky sentinel
smoky sentinel
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And since the game is single player "fair" is an abstract concept that i don't care for

tame knoll
#

And use hawk stance instead of bear stance

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And do Lin kuei reservance instead of shirai ryu

silent mirage
smoky sentinel
silent mirage
smoky sentinel
#

What battle are you even on with that team?

silent mirage
#

theyre all maxed

smoky sentinel
#

Yeah but, they have no synergy

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D'vorah works in a dot team, and good luck using her against bosses

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Same for kitana and kano

silent mirage
#

yeah bosses do screw me over

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ill send my collection? could you help me make a team?

smoky sentinel
silent mirage
#

done

willow wharf
#

Should i remove these 5 points down there the bar or nah

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And upgrade a passive

tame knoll
#

Don’t get shinnoks teachings. Use that 5 points to upgrade another thing

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Like centaurian defense or hawk stance

willow wharf
#

So these 5 points are useless?

tame knoll
#

Yes

willow wharf
#

Ok when i reset it tell me what to upgrade

tame knoll
#

I’ll show you mine

willow wharf
#

Mine is on attack and defence

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No support

tame knoll
#

Support is good. Boar stance is good for kw teams and breaking opponents shields

willow wharf
#

Well i didnt like the support passive as the attack and defence

tame knoll
#

If you are taking about when you use the 5 points and it boosts your stats a tiny bit, that’s useless

willow wharf
#

Nono not the recovery boost

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Bar

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Also in defence im gonna remove these 5 points

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I was dumb

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Yk

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But in attack i haveit maxed

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Cuz death mark

tame knoll
willow wharf
#

Man i dont see it that good

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It gaves me like 100 in a sec

tame knoll
#

But don’t go for the stat boost with the extra 5 points. Only boosts it a tiny bit

tame knoll
#

Can you show me your full tree

willow wharf
#

Hold on

#

@tame knoll

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When i remove these 5 points

tame knoll
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Change thunderous blows to shirai ryu teachings

willow wharf
#

Im thinking of upgrading the crit dmg boost and crit chance

willow wharf
tame knoll
#

And get lightning blow to level 4-5.

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Gets more power on crit hits

willow wharf
#

Crit dmg boost?

tame knoll
#

No

willow wharf
#

The black dragon training is more crit dmg

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Ooh

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I got it

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Im dumb

tame knoll
#

No it’s crit chance

willow wharf
#

My grammar is bad

tame knoll
#

That’s alr

willow wharf
#

Whats lighting blow

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Lightning*

tame knoll
#

15% chance to cripple the opponents X-ray and specials on a special attack

smoky sentinel
#

Chance to disable all special attacks on sp1, xrays too

willow wharf
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Oh i only do sp2

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I dont do xray or sp1

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I mean sp1 not that much

tame knoll
#

Also swap stalwart defense with intimidating presence. Swap ghost armor with OIA tech and finally get Fujins boom instead of cyber Lin keui programming

smoky sentinel
#

Doing sp2 on sp1 characters doesn't sound like a smart thing to do

tame knoll
willow wharf
#

Like hanzo

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But not my cos liu and kc sonya

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I spam hanzo's sp1

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But not sonya or liu cuz low dmg

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But it still better than the one im using rn

tame knoll
#

Almost always do lius sp1. It’s snares the opponent and that’s really good

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Abslolutly there. Tag out goro and snare smoke

willow wharf
#

Smoke snares me lol

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Hes annoying

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That mach is so hard

clever pawn
#

Fujin boon only if you are planning to spend 5 points on it, and even then it doesnt have a great chance to trigger

thin mauve
#

Can anyone share their talent tree for fatal tower with gold cards

rancid flare
thin mauve
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Thank u

rancid flare
keen raptor
#

That was 98 talents very disappointing

tame knoll
placid jay
#

Anyone have a good talent tree for survivor mode?

keen raptor
#

Hawk stance is good

main rock
tame knoll
#

Hey

main rock
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how did u get the precision

tame knoll
#

Talent points

main rock
#

bruh lemme show

tame knoll
#

Huh?

main rock
#

I can't

rancid flare
#

Look what it says on the bottom right

tame knoll
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Press the add button

rancid flare
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ā€œAdd more talent points to advance to the next tierā€

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Add 5 and move onto the next tier

main rock
rancid flare
#

What?

main rock
#

Look

rancid flare
#

Do you uh, understand how talent trees work my friend

tame knoll
#

You don’t need to max that talent to add the 5

main rock
#

No I don't

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I don't understand lol

tame knoll
#

You just need one point in to get the 5

rancid flare
#

Press +ADD and add 5 points in order to advance to the next tier, simple

tame knoll
#

I’ll reset my tree and show you how it works. I’ll take a video

rancid flare
#

The talents in the first tier are not worth spending more than one point on

tame knoll
main rock
#

Ok I did it chillll

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I didn't saw the add button

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ty

vital dome
#

yo whats better teamwork or spec ops tactics

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in talent tree support..

tame knoll
keen raptor
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Yes

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Support is the most important

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To get sp2 in seconds

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That's how I made a X-ray team without hellspawn scorpion or another character

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Also

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You get 60% more power on your other card for using a special attack on one

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Character

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Yep

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No

smoky sentinel
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Unless you like to die, yes

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I mean precision too but to each their own

clever pawn
#

If you ever see someone recommending bear stance over hawk, block that person as he is clearly out of his mind or trolling

reef hazel
#

I mean...since I run anti-dot teams or plenty of anti-debuff gear I tend not to use hawk stance

smoky sentinel
#

Well, it stacks

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Always better having it that not

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Consider it a +20% on all your equipments

reef hazel
#

Do I really need 120% chance to resist things like stun though?

smoky sentinel
#

If you get 100% stun resistance on all your characters congrats

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It covers you from all debuffs anyway, even those without equipments to resist it like freeze

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Or incurability

reef hazel
#

Freeze is countered by Telogreika, and incurability is easy to prevent by not allowing the opponent to hit sp2

smoky sentinel
#

Telogreika makes you invulnerable while frozen, but you need fx

reef hazel
#

I know

smoky sentinel
#

I mean you can't deny that it's better having a base +20% on everything

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Characters like diamond cassie and jason can get 100% immunity to everything only with it

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80% from equipments and 20% from hawk stance

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Smoke goes up to 90% with it

clever pawn
#

Tremor mask and their legacy rare actually, or dinasty mask at F5+

smoky sentinel
#

Yes

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I mean that without it they can't

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Unless they use dinasty mask but then you're using 3 equipments for the same thing

reef hazel
#

If I have gear to make it 100% immunity, then it is a waste to have the points there, otherwise having Hawk can be ok

smoky sentinel
#

Gear works only on one character, hawk stance is for the whole team

clever pawn
#

Compared to the other 2 options hawk is superior by far

smoky sentinel
#

And yeah, that

flat kestrel
#

How do you perform a fatal blow

smoky sentinel
#

It's simply an xray for mk11 characters

lean shuttle
#

revenant its a must for towers?

rancid flare
#

Not at all. In fact you don’t need any defensive talent at all in order to be successful in any mode

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You can just grab hawk stance, that is a pretty important talent, and that’s it

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I have been going strong without defense for a long while now, no problems whatsoever

lean shuttle
#

i remember when i used that talent before and saved my life many times

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idk if i use again

rancid flare
#

If you’re a beginner/mid-game then it’s fine to have revenant

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Once you become more experienced, you don’t need to waste points and rely on revenant anymore

lean shuttle
#

idk that end game not use revenant, its so overpowered

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what use instead?

rancid flare
#

I am an end game player, many of us here are end game players and most of us don’t rely on revenant

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It’s not very overpowered at all, one deathmark destroys revenant

rancid flare
#

If you want to stay reliant on defense, there are several talent trees in the pinned messages which come from the best MKM players in this server, as well as a couple of MKM YouTubers like MAND, KC Mobile Gaming, and CrisplayTV

lean shuttle
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the power drain and sp1 support tree talents are not much of a focus for my team. I read the pdf pin and liked the suggestions, I just came to answer the question about renevant being an essential talent.

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probably i will focus on atk and def talents

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ty

neat coral
#

what should i use for my talent tree

#

hello?

tame knoll
neat coral
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defensive

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but idc

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i mix it

tame knoll
#

Use what I use. Let me find it

neat coral
#

okay

tame knoll
neat coral
#

why not horse stance and teamwork

tame knoll
#

I like boar stance better. And I updated it a couple days ago. I use teamwork now

neat coral
#

k

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ok thx

dapper igloo
rancid flare
#

Veteran

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One with maxed golds and decent diamond teams

dapper igloo
#

End game I thought you mean Battles not account

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Oh then same then

rancid flare
#

Oh yeah no, I meant by account pepe_ok

pulsar sorrel
smoky sentinel
#

It... doesn't

eager raptor
covert sun
#

Does the soul count double everytime you reset, or does it exponentially grow?

eager raptor
covert sun
#

Thank you!

neat coral
#

should i max out revenant or outworld scourge

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?

rancid flare
#

If you’re more of a beginner and want to rely on defense, revenant

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Other than that if you are a experienced player and you feel like you don’t need to rely on defense anymore, Outworld scourge

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Both are great talents

neat coral
#

ik

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revenant doesnt work for me a lot

rancid flare
#

It’s all about luck

neat coral
#

for my main never

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my best character almost never gets revenant

dapper igloo
neat coral
#

lol

clever pawn
#

Revenant has this weird thing where the definition of a lethal hit is so absurd that multi hit specials have a higher chance to trigger it

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Like you are rarely getting killed by say Klassic Raiden sp2 unless ur deathmarked

near wraith
#

Hi do you know how to build a tree of talents, is couse of my team i use a lot klasic meleena, i thinks she must be diamond for her sustain, but i cannot face a full team of mk11 is disgusting and with that rain mk 11 with edenian items theyre invinsible help i try everything. Is fatal tower and my milena is elite 8

dapper igloo
#

Hey guys I just got mk11 rain from edeninan tower and I want to build myself a mk11 team any tips?

dapper igloo
neat coral
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I alr have the talent tree from Mand

smoky sentinel
#

And about talents, defense is not as good as offense since the rework

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The only really useful talents except hawk stance are revenant and boneshield but they rely on chance

fiery basin
#

made this (read) my

rancid flare
#

Yeah it’s fine for now, once you finish Shao Kahn Tower you’ll be able to fully experience the talent tree aspect

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Spend on Horse Stance with the remaining points and that’s pretty much it

willow wharf
#

I dont have anything in support

#

My talent tree is only attack and defence

tame knoll
willow wharf
#

I dont like the passives

tame knoll
#

They are good

willow wharf
#

The only one i like is sp2 less power cost

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But its so far

tame knoll
#

Support is good. Teamwork and spec ops tactics are very useful. Also boar stance is good

willow wharf
#

Also i cant play without the death mark OR the armor that applies when ur about to die

tame knoll
#

Death mark technique isn’t needed. Revenant is something that I can’t play without though. But while DM technique is good you don’t need it all the time. Go up to black dragon technique and that’s where you should stop. And if you nave bone sheild get rid of it. It’s useless

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@willow wharf

willow wharf
#

I dont have bone sheild

tame knoll
#

Ok good

willow wharf
#

Also what about the sp2 dmg boost

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Its like 30%

#

Thats so good

junior tendon
#

Hi

willow wharf
#

Yo lost

tame knoll
#

No it’s really not. Most people are special one spammers anyways. Get rid of that immediately

junior tendon
#

10% is good

#

When it is 20% it is too good

tame knoll
#

Yeah but that’s also 10 points you could have saved

junior tendon
#

I achieve insane dmg with it

willow wharf
#

Bro the bar is ruining

junior tendon
#

I already maxed bonesheild and dm

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Skipped some in the middle

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To get that

tame knoll
willow wharf
#

Ye

#

Send ur talent tree lost

junior tendon
#

Well i start feeling that i die too fast to make it usefull

#

Mine kinda messed up

tame knoll
junior tendon
#

Pain i use discord on my ios

willow wharf
junior tendon
#

When i open the laptop iwill share it

willow wharf
neat coral
#

why not art of tsunami

tame knoll
#

That barely gets any damage anyways. Lightning blow is the most useful

willow wharf
#

Ye i changed

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This is the old one

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But changed a bit

tame knoll
#

Get rid of thunderous blows and change it for sr teachings

willow wharf
#

So i removed these 5 points in the defence bar cuz usless

junior tendon
#

No unblock is too good in tower

willow wharf
#

Got lightning blow to 4

neat coral
tame knoll
willow wharf
#

And added on the frost bite 1

junior tendon
#

And i dont use sp1

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Always sp2

willow wharf
#

Idk what else

tame knoll
neat coral
#

the shirai ryu teachings

junior tendon
#

I use kl raiden and sfs to drain power usually so i dont need it

tame knoll
junior tendon
#

I ise klk more

tame knoll
junior tendon
#

Sp2 in 2 basics is good

neat coral
junior tendon
#

My klk generation is 154%

tame knoll
#

Those are a few players but don’t use that.

willow wharf
#

I dont use hanzo sp2 that much but i also dont use Sonya's sp1 that much yk

tame knoll
willow wharf
#

But i use both for mk11 scorp

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Cuz both are goated

tame knoll
neat coral
#

what is better precison or opportunist

tame knoll
#

Yeah still do her special one. Only do sp2 to get an opponent out

tame knoll
willow wharf
#

But her sp2 is op

smoky sentinel
#

Precision, at least 4 points

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Only few characters need 5

neat coral
#

on my main i dont use offence

smoky sentinel
#

But nothing bad happens if you max it

neat coral
#

only def and sup

willow wharf
#

I always get combo ender

smoky sentinel
tame knoll
# willow wharf But her sp2 is op

Only to get someone out. Do her special one most of the time. Only do the sp2 to get someone out or to make sure you kill them. But mostly do the sp1

neat coral
willow wharf
#

Alr

tame knoll
smoky sentinel
#

Maxed offense and wpa in support

junior tendon
#

So i think that what i use wait till i type it

smoky sentinel
#

Defense is not needed except hawk stance

willow wharf
#

My combo ender is 100%

#

Idk how

neat coral
smoky sentinel
#

Yeah, not needed

neat coral
#

rrly

smoky sentinel
tame knoll
neat coral
#

im at battle 197 normal tower and i think i need it

smoky sentinel
# neat coral rrly

Haven't used in over a year and i won every tower without it so yeah...

willow wharf
#

Combo enders are the best

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Its hard to play without them

neat coral
#

true

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especially with vial of infinte blood

#

when maxed tho

willow wharf
#

I have unblockable piece on mk11 scorp and hes very op

#

I mean bb

#

Block breaker

junior tendon
#

My offence tree

Tiger Stance/
Precision/
Lin Kuei Tutorage/
Black Dragon Training/Thunderous Blows/
Unbridled Savagery/
Death Mark Technique.

neat coral
#

ima change my talent tree tell me what the best is

junior tendon
#

Depend on card yo know

willow wharf
#

U should get lightning blow instead of unbridled

smoky sentinel
#

Mine hasn't changed at all since 3.0

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And i use it for everything

neat coral
#

what is the best talent tree

junior tendon
#

3% is too low i prefer gurantee 30% dmg boost for unblock

willow wharf
#

@smoky sentinel do u think mine is goid

junior tendon
#

Rng is not on my side

neat coral
#

@smoky sentinel what is the best talent tree

junior tendon
#

There are no best but suitable

willow wharf
#

There is no best talent tree

neat coral
#

oh k

#

but what do yall recommend not getting defence offence or support

junior tendon
#

Look at your cards choice the ones you use the most then adjust it to make the best out of them

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Go def

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Sup not worth it

willow wharf
#

Well i dont have any support

#

Ye

junior tendon
#

Same

smoky sentinel
#

You can live fine without defense

willow wharf
#

In our opinion dont attack @@smoky sentinel

smoky sentinel
#

You play better when you don't rely on rng to save your ass

junior tendon
#

And life fine without sup too

smoky sentinel
junior tendon
#

Excatly

neat coral
#

which one

#

no def or no sup

willow wharf
#

Life isnt fine without def

#

The only reason i won the most battles is def

junior tendon
#

My sf johnny need revenant to deal the most dmg

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So i go no sup

smoky sentinel
#

You can look at my tree in the pinned guide

#

Haven't used defense in over a year

willow wharf
#

Wait ima show mine

smoky sentinel
#

No problems at all

willow wharf
#

Btw removed these 5 points in the def bar cuz usless

#

And upgraded other passives

#

And got lightning blow instead of unbridled

junior tendon
#

Basically you need both dm and revenant

willow wharf
#

Ye

junior tendon
#

Unless you have brutality gear

willow wharf
#

I dont

junior tendon
#

Then as i said

neat coral
#

but in the pinned it says Aeeaa yo soy Kabalero

junior tendon
#

We are poor f2p players

#

Going without def is courting death

neat coral
#

ima use sub zero his tt

smoky sentinel
#

If not brutal ending use deathmark

smoky sentinel
junior tendon
#

Save

neat coral
#

idk bro

junior tendon
#

?

willow wharf
neat coral
#

should i just try both

willow wharf
#

Bro*

smoky sentinel
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Try mine first

willow wharf
neat coral
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Just test

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where is it

smoky sentinel
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Then you will found the best one for you

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Bro when i got mk11 scorp today

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It was

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I used 50 lvl cards on him

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Maxed his sp

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but which one is it

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Hmmm interesting

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Maxed the support cards

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@smoky sentinel i dont see it

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Either way you will have a lot eventually might spend

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nvm

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i see it

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Good

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You can try bruh tt

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i found it

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@smoky sentinel whats the best team in ur opinion

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Mk11s

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Mk11

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It's even a question?

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Hehe

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No i mean

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Then kw

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Like put characters together

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Like make a team

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Yeah still mk11

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Devs made it like that

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We cant change it

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I would say mk11 scorp and mk11 sub or jade with klk

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Is that good

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Mk11 are superior

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Scorp, sub0 and Noob

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Why would you put klk in a mk11 team

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Cuz hes goated

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šŸ“‰

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LMAO

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okay i have ur whole talent tree @smoky sentinel

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For cripple ?

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now ima try battle 197 normal tower

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Scorp already cripples, its a redudant unnecesary teamup

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Wasted just pit them together as devs made it

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Everything in klk is good except his sp2 when hes in fire dot

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I mean its good but the sec one is much betyer

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It is too good

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Better*

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Fry them

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Kekw

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Its mostly normal sp2 being a lot better, but yeah being on fire sucks

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Ye

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Depend on enemy

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No

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If ur playing against scorp then ur winning prob

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Sp2 purpose is stun

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Hanzo isnt good against klk

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No stun no time to swap

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Klk is bleed immune and heals by fore

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Kinda like that

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Fire*

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Klk is the rival of mk11s

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šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚

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Not the story

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Just in game

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Wait until you face mk11 scorpion with srt equipments

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Mobile one

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Did

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And win

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Using klk

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Its a shorter animation, being on fire actually makes you lose damage