#š²-talent-tree
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Follow the guide pinned
Oki dokie
the pinned guidde message shows you some of the recommended talent trees you can use
recommendations / objections to this tree?
Many talents in support that could work without the need to be maxed
Get at least precision in the attack tree, 4 points
And get rid of shaolin last stand, if it has only one point it's not worth it
like what?
in support
iāll get rid of revenant and stuff in defence and go back to hawk stance
You can follow the guide pinned
cool, thanksš
Personally I would follow the guide, and try to find one closest to what you have built
out of all the talent trees on the guide which ones the most balanced because im not really specifically focusing on one thing im doing everything tbh story, towers, fw
Mand's is pretty balanced if I'm remembering right
I've been using mine without changes for every gamemode since 3.0 in october
oo ok
so betweens dracos and mands
i really like them both tbh i dont know whci one to pick
You can try both out for an fw season or two, and then decide which one you like more
Mand is more defensive, mine is more attack based
I like the sound of more attack based tbh š„“
I say this but I'm still only half way through the tower š„²
I don't mind either tree, since the one I follow more closely follows KC Mobile's tree
Ive grown to dislike revenant, feels like ass relying on a 30% chance to not die
Can someone suggest me for the best talent tree
Read pins
there is no BEST talent tree
every tree has their own uses
Its more consistent overall, just not against x-rays
centaurian defense is alot useful for fw
but i use shokan dominance since it works everywhere, going against stupid AI's
I just complete the tower few days ago, any1 know when im gonna get the rest of the talent point?
There is no more after first completition
100 is the max
So how many do you even get?
100
Well..... That sad :(
you should still try and do the tower since you can still get fragments from it
Okay so how does this talent tree stuff work?
read the pinned message guide and you can use some of the recommend talent tree's
Oh gracias mi amigo
talent tree:
the talent tree is how you can improve your gameplay and a must thing. there are 3 trees that are:
- offense (attack & damage)
- defense (saving)
- support (teamwork)
what suggested is using the offense and defense tree as usual, or the support tree along with offense.
with offense and defense, you're able to deal good damage to your opponents, your stats will increase and you'll get saved by the revenants, centariaun defense etc.
with support and defense, you can spam special attacks especially sp1 that is very useful for snaring opponents with weak points (johnny is the best example for it).
some battles of the towers may require you a different talent tree, you can ask for it or watch video's
how to use the talent tree:
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choose one of the talent from one of the trees (offense, defense, support) and put atleast 1 point in it
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press on the bottom button "+Add" and add 5 talent points and do the same thing.
make sure you read the talent tree guide and also look at the talent trees of mkm players with knowledge.
only english allowed in the chats, spanish goes to #šŖš¦-espaƱol-spanish
Well Iām not speaking full on conversations or sentences with Spanish so I think Iām fine
Still, only english
Thatās what he basically said
Whereās the specific rule?
Know what it doesnāt matter
Which rule so I can avoid using āgraciasā at the end of a 2 paragraph English message
Well, the mods always say to use English in these chats, only use other languages in the local chats
Iām sure itās fine is you say something like, āsiā or āgraciasā but just not a full sentence. Is this what the mods say? Or what do theyād say about other languages
Okay thatās all I was saying
Seemed ridiculous mods would say no to using a single word in a different sentence among your fully English sentence
Few words are fine
A whole chat is not
Or just ask a mod for confirmation just incase
But this is getting off topic
Proves my point
This talent tree is both offensive and defensive. It's a good talent tree for everyone and mostly dealt for dealing damage and able to resist debuffs. It contains: crits, centaurian defense, cruel affliction, hawk stance, revenant which are pretty much the part of this talent.
The best team for this talent can be pretty much any team but would be mk11 as they have the best synergy and along with this talent tree they will turn into killing machines (mk11 scorp as example) with the dots & damage they do and they will also defend from debuffs most of the time such as (mk11 jade) who will able to heal her teammates.
it's based on opinions
whts urs
If not for Mk Scorpion or dots dealers then thunderous blows, not cruel affliction
thanks, rip to my whole talent tree
why whats wrong with it
nothing
Could someone explain what gambler do? Like does it do additional damage for special attacks?
Yeah, basically. The amount you score on the minigame is increased by gambler
Just increases % of your Sp mini-game in case you are not successful. But it is very unnecessary talent
Yeah, itās not a very good talent at all
oh
If it was substantial, like letās say 50%+ for example, then man itād be one of the best talents
Even if gambler was like that, I would probably still choose precision
Black dragon training or rapid response
bd training
Talent Tree 1: used mainly for levels which require high survivability, but require me to be offensive at the same time. levels such as 186 and 187, i use these trees
Talent Tree 2: i use this for high offense and when i need to worry little about defense, but having centaurian defense is pretty much a must for me, as it is just such a great defensive mechanism. This talent tree also allows you to spam sp1s, so it's very good on teams such as the mk11 team, kc team, and sf team
both available for copy of course.
of course, i have power reduction and power gen gear on most of the times, so i can generate power fairly quickly
Regen and recovery are different things
Regen is the buff, not the stat
Like sf scorp sp2
pretty sure regen only regens a certain amount of time and a percentage
i don't think there's any stats on it
it's just a percentage/ duration of time
i personally use live for battle
i don't find warlock's spells really useful, maybe because i just don't play survivor that much lol
warlock spells effect can be seen on cards like unstoppable jason, kl mileena, sf scorp, vamp mileena, thosr that regen health as passive. i think marksman kung jin also benefit from it as he has life drain in passive.
Warlock spell increase the amount healed, but there is no stat for buffs
Also shang
yep shang tsung š
thunderous blows
Proceeds to go the talent tree
Thunderous blows
Shirai ryu teachings
Or if I get hit by a critical hot I get power?
No thatās bad
I want draco to tell me
What does Thunderous Blows do
Go thunder
It does more so2
Ah
Answer my question
Sp2 dmg better then crit dmg
Damn, that's good for Takeda, huh
BRUH
It's what i've been using for the last 6 months, no regrets
30% more sp2 dmg or a crit chance
Full crit talent tree
Elder god draco
I have
Question
Shirai ryu teachings if you get hit by a critical
You get power?
Or if you give critical you get power?
the second
"yes"
Ok then Shirai ryu teachings it is
it's personal preference tbh
If you do a crit
The first is a defense talent
With some characters you'll never use sp2, or dots. Crits are universal
Mk11 scorpion is my main but crits are still the way to go
Indeed
Arigato
yw
Gold ninjutsu Scorpion is crap
Yea heās basically silver scorpion but better
For the beginner talent tree guide is the priority denfense?
For the one in the pinned
Or what to put the points in first
Warlock spells is useless
I barely does what you think it does
Then put 1 point into warlock spells
Yea
You can put 1 point in a talent then skip to next section
So you can ACTUALLY get to WPA
If you donāt want anything from that section just point 1 point into it so you can get what you really wanted
I guess you really do learn something everyday
Donāt waste them. First spend one point on each talent, and when you are done choosing, only then start maxing out talents
Lol
Do you powerdrain often?
Nvm
Cause I have wpa but I donāt powerdrain often often but I do once and a while unless Iām playing scorpion season or strike force team (I donāt have Cassie yet)
Agreed
just a question what stance should i choose hawk stance or bear stance
Hawk Stance
by resistance to all debuffs is it like power drain and stun etc.
Yes, all debuffs are affected by hawk stance(minus Klassic Ermac's debuff)
And to boost that debuff if you go far to revenant section the one before it I suggest red dragon training because power drain and stun is most common in MKM
Owwh
Tbh if you invest all the way to outworld scourge mongoose is useless because that recovery from going a tier up is enough
Yeah, true, I really just go for boar stance b/c of KC Johnny
I do horse stance for extra power gen boost
So my MK11 team consists of Scorp, Skarlet, Jade. Should I go with the "Lord Raiden" build on the pinned guide? To be honest I've been playing for almost a month now and still haven't touched the talent tree
Generally if you're new to the game I would go for a build that's more balanced in offense and defense, something like Mand's tree(if you prefer slightly more defense) or Draco's tree(if you prefer slightly more offense)
Yeah I'm just trying to build so that I last a bit longer in FW, but a balanced build would do me good, then I'll make my way to a more DOT focused one. Thank you!
Dot focused one wouldnāt be so good
Only specific characters have dots
I would say go for a universal tree, get talents that benefit ALL of your characters
Two great talents that do so are rapid response and thunderous blows
Otherwise, if you want a more fw orientated one KC Mobile's is a good one as well, and after trying it out for a while, I have to say it works very well on other game modes as well
Yup, KC Mobile Gamingās tree is great
Okay I'll try out KC's. Thank you guys, really appreciate it
#š²-talent-tree message these ones are good too, they are mine, you are welcome to try
Tbh dots are least of your problems I would say hawk stance and red dragon training
is there any equipment that i must use with mk11 team(sub0,scorpion and skarlet)
must? no.
but like
there are equipments better than other which go better on those characters than others
talents?
ok
you can check them out for yourself and decide whether you'd like to use them
otherwise, Draco's tree is pinned.
ok
is Hachās Tower Build 3.0 the best for MK11 tower team?
There is no best tree
I've been using mine without changes for 8 months without changes for every game mode and team
well I am pretty noob and I dont have brutality gear
Then use deathmark
just trying to figure out what I can do to get past 173 and beyond. Id like to finish the tower
What's the battle
current build is defense. Thinking I need to reroll
This is, for defense I just have "hawk stance" maxed out
So for the support is horse stance good for the long run or nah
It's an ordinary talent, that's not good but not bad either
I have a preference for others
Yea actually using horse stance with teamwork gives a good amount of power gen boost I recommend it
You didnāt need to waste points on lion stance and horse stance
Actually horse stance might be valuable
Lion is horrible
But, itās okay, no need to reset the tree again
Itās fine, no problem
You can get tiger stance instead of lion
And donāt max it out, only one point
Then move onto the next tier
Iād say, build up on offense tree
If you can, try to max out rapid response
So, here are all the talents you need to max:
Precision
Bear Stance
Spec Ops Tactics
Rapid Response (if you can)
Alright, thatās good
Lin kuei tutorage is good
Add silver Kung Jin and you can deal great damage with critical hits
Donāt reset now, your tree is good
No precision? Now that is a death wish
Precision is an absolute must, you cannot chain combos properly without that talent
I use kold war so all I do is stun a freeze so thatās why I picked it
You would want to make a universal talent tree that is applicable to ALL of your cards
Not just for one team
But for him I agree on precision
Yeah, precision is a very important talent
Nobody is as good as they are without precision
But other than that weāre we disagree do u think the rest is good
Hawk Stance > Bear Stance
Having resistance to all debuffs is amazing
Health boost can be achieved with equipments anyways
25 percent tho is hard to say no to
It is easy to say no to bear stance
20% resistance to all debuffs
You can avoid stun, power drain, dots, everything
And health is not important, offense is. You want to deal the most amount of damage in a match
Increasing your health wonāt help you win
I mean itās 20 percent tho with bear your guaranteed 25 percent more health
No Iām saying no matter what u get extra 25 percent more health but with hawk 1 in 5 chance u avoid the defbuff
You can always increase the debuff resistance from hawk stance with equipments
Same goes for health
Health can be increased by a simple legacy rare
And that too, usually 35%
Hp is more reliable than dodge
Dodging debuffs will prevent you from losing your health
When youāre stunned, you canāt do crap, and youāll get destroyed
If you can resist it, you can stay alive
Yea but that is if u dodge
If you donāt your way worse off than me
But I guess that is a valid point that you could increase the chance
Yeah, health can be increased by many sources
You already get extra health bonus from progressing in defense tree anyways
To how much do u think you could increase it to if more than 50 my mind will be changed
With tremor mask you can already get 50% resistance to all debuffs
Add Sindel ring, and you will have immunity to certain debuffs
Such as poison, stun, and bleed
Thought you asked how much you can increase it for
And itās more than 50 youāll change your mind
Thatās more than 50 right there, thatās 100%
Yea but I already use the ring
Then get hawk stance to make it even better. Earth elemental facemask and hawk stance
Thatās already 50% resistance to all debuffs
Add the ring, immunity to certain debuffs
When I get more fusions on my dotd team I will probably go for dodge
Dots and stun are common debuffs, the fact that you can become completely immune to them is amazing
U actually bring up good points
If you do lin kuei teachings you have to do black dragon training
They literally go hand and hand with each other
30% but still good
Oh nvm I see why you said 50% because of the talent and the equipment is 50% yea that also
Can anyone tell me what talent tree should I choose first
I have 10 talent points
Get precision with at least 4 points in it
Thanks
I wanna get bone shield and revenant but Iām wondering if I got enough to get it
Not like immediately but like if I can get enough points to get it
Why
Stagger effects
Itās like cos Jax armor
You mean Jax
Bone sheild rn is only if u wanna get brutalized
Ah alr but do you think I can get revenant
Point wise then how much do you think
Wdym
You also have to count that extra one point on each level
But then I gotta get skills from it
So 24 points
Iāll show you mine
So pretty much 88 floor
Close but far
Mine has everything in offense maxed lol
Oop
My internet is slow itāll take a while
Nice
When you finish the tower and it resets do you get points still?
I use offense+Support
No @random condor
100 is the max
I had certain requirements that I made myself meet, then just used what was left on other things
Yea
I just donāt know
Since I got almost maxed offenders
And if I get brutally gear so canāt I get revenant
Right?
Iāll ping you once my pictures load. The internet is so slow that the pictures are still loading in my photos
No you can get both
But also max centaurian defense it is the best when it happens
Then 2 more left
I made sure I had this stuff: Hawk Stance and Revenant in Defense maxed, And Weak Points Attacks/Edenias Champion maxed in support, and I maxed Centaurian Defense for fun.
You don't really need defense
Revenant is helpful for Survivor that's all
And the 20% resistance to debuffs helps too
And reflecting a boss X-Ray is funny
I just want revenant shield
It could save me so much
The more hits means more of a chance for revenant so if you get hit like 10 times in one sp attack then youāll get revenant
@summer tinsel
What does the Brutal Ending talent exactly do? I'm confused as to what it does that the two set piece equipment cards for certain characters doesn't do.
It allows you to do a brutality on any opponent regardless of being the last
Fully maxed, it gives a 100 percent chance that the ender combo at 25 percent or lower will do a brutality on any opponent
@dapper igloo Brutal Ending talent tree. The biggest trade-off is you will have to completely sacrifice defense, you arenāt even allowed to get Hawk Stance, so just be aware of that. If thatās no problem to you, then you are free to use this tree.
Also of course you can always mix and match to your liking
Ok took the screenshots š thanks bruh
No prob 
My tree is up above if you want defense and offense instead of offense and support
Which one is better, defense or support?
Iād say support because support kind of acts like a 2nd offense tree. You are allowed to reach your maximum damage potential building up a support tree
Defense is cool and all. Revenant is really nice, but it is definitely not needed to win battles in this game. At most, if you really want to spend on defense, I would just grab hawk stance and stalwart defense, thatās all
I would say support
Oh yeah, also shokan dominance
Enfi is talking about the same thing in #šÆ-towers-relic-hunt
Yup, I see. More of a defensive guy, thatās fine. Itās good to be safe
He uses revenant for boss battles which is not of much use unless u are a beginner account
Sorry if I sound rude, but what are you doing with rapid response instead of BD training lol
I know itās crazy, but rapid response is guaranteed. BD training may give innate critical hit chance to all of your cards, however it is chance based
Rapid response increases my SP1 damage by an extreme amount
That is for kc johnny 100% keeps ur SP1 spam perfect
Perfect for cards such as KC Johnny and MK11 Scorpion, the two cards I main
And really just perfect on all cards who have a strong SP1. Same thing can be said for thunderous blows
Thunderous blows is a must for klk, mk11 sub0 etc
Well BD training is just better for me becuase, well critical hit chance and I love those. But rapid response would be good on kl scorpion but I just really want to keep bd training
Yeah, I understand where you come from, the fact that everyone gets critical hit chance no matter what is great
Better for people like sub jacqui and people who are really good with crit hits
Indeed
I just shifted from rapid response to bd training to trigger my buzzsaw speed. Or else I would swear by rapid response without equipments. Simply coz kc johnny spams sp1 unlimited with it
I just like bd training better becuase instead of it being +30 or 25% sp1 boost it would be +50 attack boost for all attacks instead of just sp1. Really good on people with good sp2 and basic attacks. Like mk11 raiden
Whatās the max for rapid response?
Let me rephrase that properly. His sp1 dmg boost is big time with rapid response, so his spamming feels faster lol š
Idk if that makes any sense š¤Ŗ
I guess 25%
Also ya, bd training works better for someone like klk for me
30%
Yeah I can see why it feels faster when itās not. Just like how when I have wrath hammer and bd training it feels like I get more lethal chance even though i donāt
Yo @rancid flare do u have any brutality set on you?
Yeah, 3. Reptile, Shang, kabal
Wow
Chasing kano as of right now, my hopes are just to drop cyber heart on a random battle
I hope for kanos rare or kabals epic. Need one of those to complete another brut set
I wanted cyber heart in first run & got psych bomb. Then I wanted smugglers luck in second run & got cyber heart. I guess the key is to not want something to get it 
Hey, at least you got cyber heart. That thing will definitely be useful outside of the tower
I have Sonyas Shang tsungs and reptiles. I only need Sonya for the actual brutality though. Does that count as a set or no
No, the equipments count as a set
Ya š
If you got a rare and epic, thatās a set
I sense u looking for scorpion set during srt return š
All of them lol. Jade, LK and scorpion
Looking for a gift card so I can drop some $ on a large pack
Can the brutality be used on gold cards? š¤
No, only on diamond variations of cards
Also other than kc team which other golds would u say are as effective as them at fx?
For clearing towers
Klassic Smoke
Yup, klassic smoke
He does something that no other character in the game can do; reflect debuffs
Hanzo
Is bi hans tormentor one of the worst tower equipments outside of the tower?
Itās good
The Tormentor is great
Lethal chance, always welcome
So kc team & then smoke & hanzo. That's all?
Triborgs without Sektor
Klassic Ermac
But only 5% lethal chance and 10% reduced power cost. Oh sorry I mean one of the worst at f0
Treacherous Tanya
Ok I need a list in a single comment to screenshot š
Gold Outworld team (MoS Ermac, Gunslinger Erron, Mournful Kitana)
Triborgs w/o Sektor
Treacherous Tanya
Klassic Smoke
Hanzo
Klassic Ermac
Klassic Scorpion
Teams that are good in towers:
Gold Outworld team (MoS Ermac, Gunslinger Erron, Mournful Kitana)
Klassic Team with Klassic Smoke
Hanzo, Bo Rai Cho, Aftershock Tremor
Triborgs without Sektor
Klassic Ermac
And yeah, treacherous as well
Heās okay for them, Iād rather have an actual snare effect on the enemyās
Control the enemyās play style
Where Johnny shines
Kl scorpion can be really good for people like bd erron and aftershock tremor
Itās great Tremorās passive doesnāt work on a forced tag-out
Just taking notes for gold team until I get more high fused diamonds. Also to try other teams in towers if by chance i get bored of too much kc team in towers
And especially good on kl raiden
My whole bdt has been kc team š
@dapper igloo @silent coyote This is my defense tree end
I prefer OIA over Ghost armor
I kinda just picked randos to get to the last 2 lol
Thank you
Ermac, you only need him at f0 though. Then scorpion
Ermac should be first
Then equips
Yeah
One copy of ermac is fine
Just one ermac, then follow this guide #š-player-guides message
Thanks
Ermac it isš
Then equipments, yes
Cause I was really confused between him and scorpion
Maxing blf soon 
F9
And my scorp is unbeatable run with Cyrax and smugglers luck
ma dude does 49k with sp1 not even lethal 
fusion?
6
Mk11 scorp f6?
Oh, sorry, thought you meant Cyraxās sp1
lol i mean my scorp sp1 when i use him with cyrax lmao
Don't have any.
Hat Trick is a basic, look out for him. Not the best fighter, but he can be a fun support
I want Mk11s tbh
I need sub0 only all i want is sub0 rn
Yeah
Oh yeah ST 100
Oh, you remember? Nice
Yeah, forgot for a moment
Me who doesn't even remember what i had for dinner
Happens
I never remember what I ate when still I remember every diamond I got from st
It was my 1st tower and was very happy getting like 22 diamonds so who wont forget
@rancid flare @broken ocean does this look ok?
Yeah, looks alright
it looks alright
i'm not azzet or bruh moment, but i would only put 4 points into precision, get thunderous blows, and put 1 point into live for battle instead of warlock's spells
Alright thanks
i have no idea what talent tree/ team you main so i can't really say
im sorry
and yeah, i don't use brutal ending, but i don't know how many brutality sets you have either
Yeah I mainly use kl scorpion and I only do sp1 mostly, but I only do sp2 on very few characters
If you use SP1 often, then Outworld scourge + mediation is definitely the ultimate combo for you
3 of them, but I have sonyas brut set but not her
Thanks
mate that setup is amazing
i don't regret using it one bit
Iām glad you liked it! I changed up my tree today just cause I was bored of playing with the same tree
But when another tower comes I will revert back to that tree
i'll definitely be keeping it somewhere safe, i currently rotate around 2 trees

I would have gone for shirai ryu teachings
Guys which one is the best, lighting blow, art of the tsunami or unbridled surgery
Lightning blow
If you have brutality equipment, brutal ending. If not, you can get death mark to fulfill that role
Ok, maybe ill wait until i can get brutality equipment thanks
hi i come back to game after 1 year or so
i use jason sonya kenshi scorp for tower
i can't remember what talents i should pick can somone help?
also i saw my gold mk11 kabal upgraded to diamond,he worth raising now?
- Yes, Kabal is worth leveling up
- Get a team with synergy. Pair Scorpion with Kabal and another MK11 character
- Talent tree guides are in the pinned messages of this channel. Since you are a beginner, I would recommend going for offense and defense
For offense, do not max out any of those talents in the first tier. Just spend one point and move onto the next
Precision is a must. Then, lin kuei tutorage, then rapid response
And finally, go ahead and get thunderous blows
For defense, max out Hawk Stance, that is a really valuable talent
Then, Stalwart Defense, Shokan Dominance, and OIA Tech are what you should get next
No need to max out OIA Tech, the goal here is to save points for revenant
Get Fujinās Boon (spend only one point on it), then if you can afford it, max out the talent called āRevenantā
And any spare points you have, you can max out some of your extra talents
So:
Offense
-Lion Stance (only one point)
-Precision (Max)
-Lin Kuei Tutorage (only one point)
-Rapid Response (Max)
-Thunderous Blows (Max)
Defense
-Hawk Stance (Max)
-Stalwart Defense (Max)
-Shokan Dominace (Max)
-OIA Tech (only one point)
-Fujinās Boon (only one point)
Revenant (Max)
See if you have enough to make this exact layout, and if you donāt, you can always mix and match
thanks alot!
No problem! 
Notes say revamped TT.
I wonder if they reset for everyone again ?
No
Any Best talent tree
Try checking the document that is pinned, and following the talent tree that best fits your playstyle
Iām a noob so maybe this has been covered a thousand timesā¦..Talent tree presets sure would be nice.
Which talent tree should i do first(support,defense or strength)
Maybe defense and offense but if your not sure what to pick then check the guide pinned
@dapper igloo ^
Ight I'll go with offense since prob defense s t i n k s
I go with defence way better
Those shields helps a lot and wins me the fight multiple times than without it
That would be great
I also 2nd that talent tree presets that would be amazing for my playstyle
I donāt get it, the talent tree doesnāt make my characters have like a little higher stats
Their stats are fine, kollection just doesn't show them until you check the character
Ohhh ok
Hope thats a bug
Not really a big deal honestly
Stats are showed the same way in fw and any other battle also
But if we check the character we see the boost
FoS and talent tree are hidden
Id rather it show the accurate stats still, no hurry for it but its still an unwelcome change
should I reset support tree and place those into defense?
There is no such thing
You can follow the guide pinned if you want
All about what you need
Ty
lol if there was a BEST Talent tree, everyone would be using it
@willow wharf yea Man U need to reset lol
Kk
Try a couple of battles with it u will like it
Kk when i get souls i have 0 lol
U can always just come back here hardly anyone uses this area
where da centaurian defence at
Shokan is better
na
Is it possible to get this much talent tree points? This guy sus!
No. Maybe a glitch.
Maybe, who knows!
Talent tree Bear stance not working properly
thats not a glitch
Ok
Shao kahn?
Itās clearly not a glitch itās hackers out here you know
#š²-talent-tree message the two talent trees i mainly use @willow wharf
Gonna check when i come back home ty
ur welc
They good talents but the first one if your not gonna use lighting blow id suggest the art of tsunami instead
But good talents tho
HAHAHAHA this one was used for 186 specifically, so i had lightning blow to prevent sp usage
and second one is used for more offensive play
Mhm I see but how often did it activate?
lol
I've been using lightning blow since 3.0
Haven't changed my tree at all since
And it works perfectly
At 1 point?
5
Thatās what Iām saying they use it at 1
And you know I used to use it
So ofc it works perfectly
What lol how often does it work
Cause I know at 4/5 or 5/5 itās more often then 1/5
@smoky sentinel where is ur talent tree again?
As i said already it's in the guide pinned
kk
Shinnok's teachings is useless if not maxed
Max it or it's useless
ok when i win 3 games
but wait im in floor 94
so there gonna be 3 more points
what should i do with them
Boost more talents
looks fine, but later on, you may like to develop support over attack
and i also tend to go for shaolin's last stand, it's very useful in getting off some extra damage
but some people see it as a bad talent so really, it's up to you
99% of people think shaolin last stand is garbage
Its even worse now that bone shield is back to normal
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there's no such thing as a "best talent tree" , it's up to your playstyle
I mean im gonna stay with that ig
Ye but there is the worst lol
yeah it looks fine at the moment, just be wary, as you get better in the game, you may like to redevelop
your tree
I mean my team is bad but still going and beating the tower with them
Ye
Ye they are good especially for regeneration
Anyways 10 min and i can play that
@jade depot is there a very hard battle in this tower
100 is the only one you should be a little careful
And thats mostly KR and Mileena murdering you on tag in
Oh dam
but its not difficult rest assured
Dark magic regeneration off balance or what
off balance
eh u jus gotta use cos lk to snare them
Offbalance is a dick
and this is not the correct place to chat about it. let's move to #šÆ-towers-relic-hunt
I always thought this was a friendly server
Im gonna do that i think its better than the shinok one
Also i dont wanna boost something else so ima do it
Thx for helping tho
okay
can i add 2 talents in the same branch?
No
And using 5 points to unlock the next tier is pointless if then you have only 1 point left to use
Play shao kahn tower and get talent points
I have 10 talent points @smoky sentinel
20% debuff resistance when maxed
Pinned message in #šÆ-towers-relic-hunt
Dude told you a ton of times. 1 or 2 points in last tier is a waste of points
those are called "fragments. they're used for unlocking shao kahn and getting him from the relic hunt whenever it comes back. it requires an amount of fragments to unlock shao kahn. you can grind those fragments by playing the shao kahn tower.
read pinned message in #šÆ-towers-relic-hunt
Your choice then
Thx very much, so no chance to get him š
wait for relic hunt, then you can try getting him, it's not difficult
27 fragments for shao kahn
No need to complete relic hunt
Only 27 fragments will get him at f0
Thx
See
Its even good with 1 point
Like for sure getting 1 bar and 55 chance for unblockable attacks
Where are you going to use that thing?
When last character is alive
You got revenant saving you
You cant let 2 characters die just like that is fw
In this tower for block breaker you are affected by debuff
So what are you gonna do with it
So I don't think this is of any use
I had it before
Could use it only once or twice in a month
Uh idk maybe in the new tower
After 3 months?
Ok, Iāll send a video
Wait, nvm pics. It turns into something you have to download if I send a video
Idk what to get rid of for revenant. Maybe I should stop using support
or just build your offense up to bd training
Well I have 3 brutalities and I donāt want to get rid of that
And lightning blow comes in handy a lot
everything is useful
yes but you're not going to be using your brutalities every day every night every minute every second
i have 3 brutalities too
but i choose not to use
Alr, Iāll go to bd and see if thatās better
why do u use brutal ending unless u absolutely know ur gonna use brutality
or have to
like st 160
just opened the ios account i created during server maintenance when you guys reported ios was working and android wasnt. I opened the free packs and got ronin melina and her brutality equip.... Guess I will be playing some IOS now lol
what
Dam, you got early access to ronin mileena
looks good
Precision is good at 4/5
I had nothing else to spend it on
Huh?
So I just maxed everything
Oh ok I see
Although why fujins boon? Just curious btw I kno what it does
Has a chance to rinse dots on sp attacks
Itās good
Oh I donāt really care for dots itās less of a problem I use red dragon training for extra debuff resistance to powerdrain and stun
He said he got ronin mileena , which obviously isnāt a thing, I was making a joke
I kno
cheating, and cover the name, <@&667853885146267649>
what
no profanity
well iām not a mod so itās not my job to tell people what to do
hey gamers. my strongest guy is fusion8 stunt double johnny cage, and i haven't touched the talent tree at all. can you recommend me a good talent tree for him (and other characters that support him)?
Check the pinned guide
so that is the best one?
i saw a tree there that said "focused around johnny" but i didnt know which one
There is no best one
well, would you recommend that one?
Get a tree that follows your needs
If you use johnny often get a sp1-focused tree
It increase each time until you reach the max of 12 souls/reset
Use outworld scourge and weak point attacks and precision 4/5
And for power gen Iād suggest horse stance and teamwork they work well together
Yea some of us been down that road before
back in my day in 2015 we didnt have talents so i just ignored the whole thing
Oh your also and OG player nice
Yea I stopped playing for 3 years and came back in 2018 good thing I did tho
Here you go @quaint oak
Thank you
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This tree is focused on kc team?
Yeah, and really just anyone who is SP1 oriented
Wait was there a talent that can apply shield break on combo ender or I'm mistaken?

is it good for kenshi?
Cool. Good luck
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@rancid flare i really like your tree. I feel comfortable using it and i love those free sp1's
I thought he would at least max one of the power gen talents
But still a cool talent tree
I would have, itās just that brutal ending + hawk stance took away 15 points. Otherwise all the points would go to support
Thanks! 
NP!
Happy to hear that you liked it! 
Just switched brutal Ending to dm technique cuz i only have reptile's brutality set
Alright, that works! Or if you wanted to, you couldāve spent those points on support
But that works, dm technique is a good talent
agreed!
bruh moment's talent tree is very fun
You use it too?
Yeah very useful

@languid magnet this is
is it better to use spec ops tactics over teamwork or no
Itās your preference but I use teamwork and itās actually good when paired with horse stance
Teamwork is one of the best talent
No it is not. Horrible
Well itās good if you have an X-ray but you almost never get that
Oh wait, looked over it
Also sp attacks but itās still not one of the best
Well wasn t teamwork nerfed hard before dont remember which update
I think the top 5 talents are WPA, revenant, hawk stance, death mark technique, and black dragon training. Not in order
Team work used to be broken I think it got "fixed" when NT came
No it wasnāt it was a bug they said and they fixed it
It was technically broken since it was doing 3x what it should, now it ranges between barely decent and bad
If you used it with Triborgs you could spam x-rays
Im running horse stance and spec ops tactics now, seems okay for edt.
Trust me if you run teamwork with horse stance itās like how it used to be
Even without horse stance I still use it and that was the only problem back then that you could get to X-ray quickly but sp2 is stronger so itās useful
Pass
Not just for you sucka
best first talent?
First talent for which tier, defense support or offense?
Offense: Tiger Stance (spend only one point, never max it out
Defense: Hawk Stance (Max it out, very useful talent)
Support: Horse Stance (up to you if you wanna max it)
tyvm
In order it use a brutally do you NEED to put points in brutal ending?
Without Brutal Ending, it can be only used against last opponent
The talent lets you use it on any of the opponent during the match
So if I was really lucky and had brutal ending with a gear set I could in theory use it against every opponent?
Yes. But the opponent have to be under 25% health
But if I didnāt just the one?
Without brutal ending, just read what the brutality equipments say
yo
How do you get 195 talent points?
Just read pinned message
My current opponent in faction wars has a maxed talent tree with 195 talent points
Bone shield is unstable. Can be either decent or OP in different updates depends on dev's mood
Dont know why the dev love to mess it
Tree for this tower, I rebuilt my tree over the past few towers. But now I think WPA is totally trash in this tower.
Can't get a single snare on this tower in normal run.
Anyone else seen this ?
One the new tower equipment gives resistance to rebuffs, makes WPA less effective.
then report
your opponent I mean
Wait you have to have the brutal ending talent tree unlocked as well as the equipment?
No
Ohhh ok
@finite swift

gimme a break
@finite swift sorry, lost internet, just wanted to say thanks.
no prob bob :)
I'm getting revenant and bone shield I will be a true gamer 
I already have revenant
Bone sheild isnāt needed
Even after the fix?
offense is the best defense
^
your enemies are the ones who need bone shield to stand a chance against u
show them who is the real boss there
Which is better guys Rapid response or Black dragon training
Black dragon generally
Black Dragon because critical chance is good when you donāt have the gear
But critical chance could be stack so it is useful even if you have the gear .....
This is my defense talent tree is it ok so far?
Been working on it for 2 days just got into shao kahns tower and I'm at battle 56 I think
Yea itās good but go for hawk stance debuff resistance is a must in this game
@keen raptor
@keen raptor you only need to put one node into the second thingy, and yes, hawk stance is a must have, and i would get O.I.A Tech & Cyber LK Programming, and i usually use SLS
I'll reset my talents and go for it
I'll try it
i'll post mine for reference
After I finish my defense what should I work on?
Thanks also your talents are noice
currently using the second tree
i only use the first tree if i absolutely NEED revenant
like 186 of BDT
Good idea
I like to savor my opponents make them feel small for being beaten soo badly
So easily
Ok and I also suggest red dragon training because stun and power drain is the most common debuffs in this game and the extra 20% makes it 40% which is good
Guys is bone shield reliable now after the nerf?
It has been fixed
it's broken
When we do an sp, it applies bone shield to whole team
Like you killed an opponent with sp. The next opponent tagging in will get bone shield which is Invisible
You cant see the bones revolving around
I play the game too
So you might have noticed it
Yes i did
That's irritating at higher stages in survivor
Does that matter when we're talking about the old one?
Ok, Iāve tried to find a use for these āFragmentsā in game and I canāt. What the heck are those for?
maxxed out horse and hawk stance, what now?
How many talent points do you have?
only 1 rn
I am guessing not a lot since I believe you started a couple of days ago