🌲-talent-tree

[spice tinsel]

Tiger Stance, Warlock's Spells, Lin Kuei Tutorage, Black Dragon Training, Mongoose Stance.

[rancid flare]

Okay, so. Black dragon training is probably the thing that’s worth spending on

Because you will always have 0% base critical hit chance

[spice tinsel]

3 points left now.

[rancid flare]

Okay. I think mongoose stance increases recovery, right?

[spice tinsel]

Yes, goes up by 3% each level from 10%.

[rancid flare]

Ok. Good for survivor mode but no need for recovery boost in towers. So lin kuei tutorage would be the best option here

Plus I don’t think you’re gonna heal either so warlock spells is useless

Tiger stance is really bad, only need to spend 1 point on it and that’s it

[spice tinsel]

I felt like 1% Basic Attack damage wasn't much either.

[rancid flare]

Yeah, it’s basically 0 difference

The first branch is just there to advance on to the next tiers

[spice tinsel]

Equipment now.

[rancid flare]

Just any tower equipment will work

If you have highly fused uncommons, perfect

[spice tinsel]

I feel I need to keep Cassie Cage's Body Armor for maximum Cripple resistance.

[rancid flare]

Yeah keep on body armor

I think you got unbreakable will maxed out too, right?

[spice tinsel]

My highest fusion tower equipment is Salamander Gloves.

[rancid flare]

So the body armor will greatly compliment that

Okay, salamander gloves is really good. Best uncommon in this tower

[spice tinsel]

What should I use for the weapon slot?

[rancid flare]

You got acid dragon’s tekko-kagi?

[spice tinsel]

Fusion 0.

[rancid flare]

Good enough. Gives a great damage boost

[spice tinsel]

Wait, 1.

[rancid flare]

Fusion 1, even better

Put that on your cassie or whoever your main damage dealer is

[spice tinsel]

Do equipments for the other characters not matter?

[rancid flare]

They do matter. Just make sure to put on block breaker and any other spare tower uncommons you have left on your other characters

[spice tinsel]

Here we go.

[rancid flare]

Good luck

[spice tinsel]

I got counter attacked into oblivion.

[rancid flare]

Well if you’re resisting the soaked then you should get back up and continue the attack with relatively no problems

Are you facing rain or someone else?

[spice tinsel]

Rain.

[rancid flare]

Rain, I see

Then body armor should be able to resist soaked

Unless if your body armor is low fused

[spice tinsel]

And Rain's AI is a coward who 9/10 times, counterattacks within 5 seconds of the match starting, uses Special 1, and then tags out.

[rancid flare]

Yeah, that’s how NRS designs the bosses to be. Annoying and cowardly

[spice tinsel]

7 attempts.

Fatal Battle 100 is done.

[rancid flare]

Good, who did you get

[spice tinsel]

Circle Of Shadow Liu Kang.

[rancid flare]

Ah, very lucky! Very good diamond

[spice tinsel]

So he is at Fusion 0, and I have Circle Of Shadow Kung Lao at Fusion 1.

[rancid flare]

Nice

[spice tinsel]

And Circle Of Shadow Kitana.

[rancid flare]

Full COS team, there you go

[spice tinsel]

But she is the most useless of the Circle Of Shadow teammates.

[rancid flare]

Yeah, I mean, she’s a decent fighter herself

[spice tinsel]

In terms of synergy given to teammates.

[rancid flare]

Yeah. Immunity to fear is very bad

[spice tinsel]

Wow, immune to fear, already the worst debuff in the game.

I probably will replace her with Vengeful Shinnok instead.

[rancid flare]

Only if she’s stronger than shinnok

And only if you’re using a COS team

[spice tinsel]

Again, I don't know if I should be happy that I got a Diamond, or also frustrated that because it's low fusion, I can't really use them right away with my other teams due to it being much weaker in stats than the others.

[rancid flare]

COS liu kang can destroy at any fusion in faction wars because of his lethal blows

No need to worry. You’ll be shredding highly fused golds and possibly diamonds as well

[spice tinsel]

No joke, Fatal Battle 104 took 10 minutes.

Dumb regeneration modifier, and Dark Fate Terminator kept tagging out every 5 seconds so he'd heal all the damage I just did, and then the other teammate would get scared and tag out as well, also undoing all the damage I just did.

[rancid flare]

Well if you would’ve just asked me how to deal with regeneration, I would’ve told you to use poison lol

But it’s okay, at least you passed it

[spice tinsel]

I don't have strong enough characters besides Sub Zero Triborg that have Poison.

[rancid flare]

Klassic reptile would also do the job just fine though

He can stack poisons, really fast character too. So you can’t really die with him unless you play horribly/you’re oblivious

[spice tinsel]

I switched to my Netherrealm team, and Unstoppable Jason looks terrifying with the Speed buff I copied off of Kabal using the Sindel's Signet Ring.

[clever pawn]

He doesnt really need more speed but I get why it would feel good to use

[faint ocean]

hawk stance is the best beginner perk

[clever pawn]

Not sure what that means, its the best on its category

[smoky sentinel]

It's the best option in the first tier

For everyone, beginner or not

[dapper igloo]

Beginner? You mean it’s the best talent in general?

[rotund adder]

Right now I have 3 brutalities, Shang, Reptile, and Skarlet. Should I just go for brutal ending from now on or death mark?

[graceful turtle]

bear stance is better

in my opinion

best beginner perk also

[smoky sentinel]

NOT THIS AGAIN

[graceful turtle]

what again? i was just saying it was better in my opinion

hawk stance is very situational

[smoky sentinel]

I don't want or need this discussion again

Hawk stance is the best option, period

If you want to use something else, it's on you, doesn't mean it's a better option than hawk stance

[graceful turtle]

in your opinion, maybe

health is wealth

[smoky sentinel]

Health won't make you win fights

[graceful turtle]

it would make you stay longer during the fight though

[smoky sentinel]

If you're doing it on purpose, stop, trolling is not allowed

[graceful turtle]

i’m not doing it on purpose, i’m defending my standpoint

you have no proof i’m trolling whatsoever, i just came here to state my opinion

[smoky sentinel]

I have your past history

[graceful turtle]

really? show it

hm...

[smoky sentinel]

You're pushing your luck

[smoky sentinel]

Consider this a warning

[rancid flare]

This man is using a ton of emojis lol

[smoky sentinel]

This man is no more, we can move on

[rancid flare]

But anyways we’re going a little off topic here

Onto better things

[dapper igloo]

I mean I have everyone else brutality except Kano and raiden and reptile and Shang but I still use death mark cause I don’t use them brutality equipment or the diamond characters a lot and plus death mark benefits all players

[smoky sentinel]

If you use them often, go for brutal ending

[stuck geyser]

Thoughts on art of the tsunami for the enraged fight I'ma do on tower 195 fatal

[soft mauve]

[dapper igloo]

Art of tsunami is trash it barely applies

I’d say lighting blow

[clever pawn]

They both barely apply lol

that tier is whatever none of the skills have any form of consistency

[stuck geyser]

I switched to unbridled savagery

And The unblockable damage probably was the reason why I got super lucky with classic Liu Kang SP2

[clever pawn]

that applies to very few hits and x rays

[stuck geyser]

I know but see I did maxed out basic attack with the unbridled savagery so I completed a combo leading up to the arrow but before the arrow of course and did the SP2 holy Lord big boy damage

[dapper igloo]

Lighting blow applies most of the time

[clever pawn]

Its a 15% so no, unless you spam it 10 times a minute its a worthless chance

[lofty topaz]

@ashen flint that’s insane, I’ll change mine rn and try it out

[wispy wedge]

Which talent would be better in towers? Bone Shield or Last stand?

[narrow olive]

Both are useless

Its enough till revenant

No need to go further

[wispy wedge]

Okay,thanks.

[smoky sentinel]

In towers attack is the best option anyway

You want to deal a lot of damage in low time

[oak hamlet]

Edit your tree for towers and when there over change them for FW if you feel like it

Revenant isn't going to help much when boss fights are timed or with 180-199 Fatal

[wispy wedge]

But what about non-boss battles?

[smoky sentinel]

I've been using the same tree for every single fight without big changes since 3.0

[wispy wedge]

Yes, but you have high fused diamonds and i use kc team f4-3 and pharaoh ermac f6.

[smoky sentinel]

In 3.0 my diamonds were f3 and my golds f5

[wispy wedge]

So i should keep using your support tree? Battle 180 normal i don't think i can go further.

[narrow olive]

Nah it does. It literally saved my match at 199 or that was very hard for me

[narrow olive]

Which fusion scorp can do fatal tower. I mean mine f2 can but he deals damage with fire dots. So which fusion will be enough to compete damage of fx kc jhonny against boss battles(who are dots immune)

[smoky sentinel]

I did srt with a f1 scorp

[narrow olive]

Boss battles too?

[oak hamlet]

I changed my tree when the rez modifier came in

[smoky sentinel]

The whole tower

[narrow olive]

How many attempts did 1 boss took?

[oak hamlet]

You needed it for Nightmare tower if you had Revenant instead of Death Mark battle 200 would of been impossible to beat

[smoky sentinel]

Many, but my golds were worse anyway

[narrow olive]

Still I don't think f2 will compete fx Jhonny damage on bosses

[smoky sentinel]

If johnny is fx, use him

[narrow olive]

Yeah I do

He is strong

But I love scorp more

[smoky sentinel]

Just saying that scorp can do fatal at any fusion

[narrow olive]

He doesn't give a second to attack

[narrow olive]

That's the worst part as it stops me from maxing sf or dotd😂

Thought I might go for other teams but seeing only f2 complete the hardest battles makes me get him

[elder tusk]

Scorp is fantastic for towers, I use my sub0 a lot but that guy is something else

And kc johnny at fx is a tower destroyer

[narrow olive]

If you ask me, scorp did stages my jhonny cant even dream of doing

At least not without epic gear

[elder tusk]

U don’t need epic gear with kc johnny, strong rare is enough

Got me through 160 in 4 goes with rare gear

[narrow olive]

You remember 182?

Did in 1 try

Mk11 scorp f2, jade f3 and f1 sub0

Didn't even need to do ice clone

It was dark magic and regen against ronin team

[elder tusk]

Only issue after 160 in this tower was 189 and I did that I’m 2 goes

[narrow olive]

And outworld were safe

[narrow olive]

189 was also 1 attempt for me with mk11 team

My real problem was 195

[elder tusk]

Outworld no issue for me fx kl mileena and dvorah

With kl reptile poison destroy them

[dapper igloo]

It helped me a lot

[oak hamlet]

I'm not gonna say it's useless but like I said in the Nightmare tower you needed Death Mark or you wouldn't of been able to finish it

[dapper igloo]

I never used death mark and I was fine

I use it now tho cause it’s beneficial

[distant maple]

@smoky sentinel do you know the mechanics of Tiger stance talent? Its maxed form helps ignoring 10% toughness of opponent. I use it for bosses in tower. But Im not sure whether it is useful

[smoky sentinel]

It means they have reduced toughness, so they take more damage

[wispy wedge]

Death mark for ressurection fights.

[dapper igloo]

Of course but I use it 24/7

[wispy wedge]

For me after switching to offensive tree setup it's much more comfortable than defensive tree idk why.

[dapper igloo]

It is but I still have revenant

[wispy wedge]

So you have all 100 talent points

[dapper igloo]

102

[wispy wedge]

Can i see your whole talent tree?

[dapper igloo]

Sure

[wispy wedge]

Ty

[dapper igloo]

Ard here sorry for the long wait

[wispy wedge]

np, ty tho.

[rancid flare]

Here you go @dapper igloo

[dapper igloo]

ah talent based

kk, ill see when i got time

[rancid flare]

Based on the tower

Based on KC Johnny’s sp1 and sp2 really, since he’s the guy I use mainly for the fatal tower

[dapper igloo]

ah alright

[rancid flare]

Yeah

[dapper igloo]

so everytime i use sp2, it halves the cost?

so you can use it more

[rancid flare]

Yeah, conditioning does that

Outworld scourge gives a chance for free SP1

Edenia’s champion gives a chance for free SP2

Meditation gives reduced power cost on SP1

[dapper igloo]

ah alright

ill take a look at the tree after, thanks for the suggestion.

[rancid flare]

Okay, no problem

[warped narwhal]

ok i am not a new player at all, but im still wondering, what are some good talent tree talents

[rancid flare]

Weak point attacks
Revenant
Precision
Outworld scourge
Black dragon training, lin kuei tutorage
Meditation
Boar stance
Hawk stance
Intimidating presence
Centaurian defense
O.I.A Tech
Cyber lin kuei programming
Cruel Affliction

Oh yeah, also brutal ending and death mark technique

There’s probably even more but these are the ones I can think of

[warped narwhal]

alright, i know revenant will be very good

[rancid flare]

Yup

[dapper igloo]

What’s your main or general talent tree then

[rancid flare]

Don’t have screenshots for my main one cause I never took them, but honestly, even after the tower, I would happily keep this talent tree

Maybe this talent tree with a few tweaks after the tower is done

[dapper igloo]

So you would call this your general

I mean if you can use this talent for anything outside towers might as well call it your general cause I use my talent tree for everything

[rancid flare]

Yeah, basically this is my general

[dapper igloo]

But sometimes I feel like I haven’t found my true talent tree for me to stop changing it

[rancid flare]

Yeah, that’s understandable. Almost everyone is like that

[dapper igloo]

Cause sometimes when I look at others I sometimes change it up

But switch back

But for your general talent do you even use death mark or brutal ending

Like before you switched to your tower talent

[rancid flare]

No; I already have noob for death mark so I always use him and unfortunately I don’t have a brutality set yet

[warped sand]

where is weak points in the tree

[dapper igloo]

Mhmm

[rancid flare]

I always get the rares for brutality sets but never the epics. Just unlucky-ness

[rancid flare]

Support tree, swipe a little towards the middle

[dapper igloo]

I mean brutal ending is cool but I had it but switched cause I don’t always gonna use brutality equipment

Cause some of the equipment is not good outside the characters it’s for

[rancid flare]

Yeah

[warped sand]

im not there yet or i can reet my talents for only 12 souls

[dapper igloo]

But scorpions, Sub0, Kabals Buzzsaw, and Kanos heart are really beneficial for all

[warped sand]

reset*

[dapper igloo]

But ima about to be at 200 I’m at battle 198 I think right now

[warped sand]

what are the best talents for a beginner

ima reset mine

[rancid flare]

Here are some

[warped sand]

should i go for funjins boon?

10% chance to rinse dots on special attack use?

what does it mean rinse dots

[dapper igloo]

Take off all dots (fire, bleed, poison)

[dapper igloo]

At max it’s a 50% chance to rinse them all

[rugged sun]

Got a dark lord Kotal from faction wars /:

[dapper igloo]

Uhhh...?

I’m confused

[rugged sun]

Oops wrong channel

Mb lol

[dapper igloo]

It’s Ard

[rugged sun]

Ard?

[dapper igloo]

I say Ard as (alright)

[rugged sun]

Oh

[dapper igloo]

For short

[smoky sentinel]

Just move on

[dapper igloo]

We already did

[humble dome]

OMG

I JUST MAXED OUT

ALL MY TALENTS

d

[smoky sentinel]

That's just not possible

[rancid flare]

We’re long gone from the days when hacked talent trees existed

[soft siren]

I want to see

[humble dome]

ok

[humble dome]

yeah it is

i completed all of them by adding more and more coins

[humble dome]

ur gonna faint

[smoky sentinel]

The max is 100 points

[dapper igloo]

Send a ss then, let’s see it

[humble dome]

i did

in dms

[dapper igloo]

You can send it here

[humble dome]

i did

[dapper igloo]

No, I don’t see anything

[warped narwhal]

lies?!?!?!?!? on this server?!?!?!!?

[dapper igloo]

Send it in this channel, pictures are allowed

[humble dome]

i did

wtf

its here

[warped narwhal]

i dont see anything broski

[dapper igloo]

No, nothing is here. If you sent it, it was in dms. Send it in here, you haven’t done that yet

[smoky sentinel]

I still don't see anything

[warped narwhal]

damn bro it must take ages for you to upload that image...

[dapper igloo]

I think he was just lying 🤷

[warped narwhal]

i was being ironic

[smoky sentinel]

Can't be anything else, since the max is 100

No way to max a talent tree, legally

[reef hazel]

I mean, I gotta say I'm curious now too lol, a maxed talent tree gotta be pretty sweet looking

[smoky sentinel]

A magnet for hammers

[red canyon]

I just reset talent tree again for something that i really feel the best, Offense until the art of tsunami(most of this offense talent I mastered it..

defense only using 1 talent at Hawk Stance (i think the best defense is offense) , don't give a **** to that Shinnok's to teach me Bone shield and support until weak point attacks

[smoky sentinel]

Hawk stance is good when maxed tho

I agree on best defense is offense, but hawk stance is the only defensive talent i have and it's maxed lol

[red canyon]

Support : ended with Edenia Champions , 2 talent

Offense : ended with The Art Of Tsunami : mastered

[clever pawn]

not really worth investing fully on tsunami but eh

[red canyon]

I like the combo enders affecting all inactive enemy, it's like, "wat da heck happened to us just watching tv?" That's why i mastered that Precision talent too..

Boar stance, It was based on my favorite characters that have stun on SP or their combo enders such as Kl Kano(if blocked) or Prime Jacqui..

defense talent, I only use 1 talent on Hawk Stance , i think it's enough.

If this is a football(soccer) match, the subs wouldn't not want to see their teammates got hardly tackled by opponent ... 'ouuchhh'..

Boar Stance - a must for Scorp die hard fans.. or at least the Stun die hard fans ..dang bloody good.!

[clever pawn]

Yeah its cool, not a fan of scorp so I generally use other characters with stun

[dapper igloo]

Precision is good at 4/5

[tame knoll]

Maybe he was talking about maxing like offense or defense. Not the entire talent tree

[smoky sentinel]

We'll never know, he never shared

[dapper igloo]

I’d say shirai ryu teachings instead of cruel affliction cause you gain power

[tame knoll]

Change rapid response to black dragon teachings and change cruel affliction to Shirai ryu teachings, but don’t max it. Change the art of the tsunami. Change it to lightning blow. I would say to max lightning blow

[humble dome]

syke

[neon ether]

🤦‍♂️

[rancid flare]

lol

[red canyon]

I've tried lightning blow last 2 weeks, it's cool to disable opp SP on our SP1 .now it's time for additional damages .. I'm experimenting too much with this talent tree

[stuck geyser]

I was gonna say for the last lightning blow but if you got good block breaker equipment or klassic noob unbridled savagery is pretty good too

[red canyon]

I'm yet to try that unbridled savagery..will be..maybe after 2_3 weeks

I do have kl NS, but only at F1..

[stuck geyser]

You can put 4-5 pts into it.

I really like it cuz it's the only talent of the three that's a flat consistent upgrade while the rest are completely chance-based.

Also you got to remember any SP attack that's blockbreaker gets this talent boost

[red canyon]

I think this will also apply to unblockable SP from moloch ball chain

[stuck geyser]

And it actually works really well if you have classic noob his SP1 ghost ball if it connects and you attack with any SP attack if they're blocking it'll get a 25% damage boost

Thats lots of damage and imagine also if you maxed out boar stance you gave them shield break

That ends up doing even more damage

[red canyon]

Boar stance always my fav..always maxed..had no intention to change it

[red canyon]

I'm gonna change this offense tree again.. experimenting on mastered unbridled savagery, to see how bloody it will be when a character equip with unblocker..

[clever pawn]

Not as good as you expect it to be

[red canyon]

Thank God, dev allowed us to reset this talent tree capped at 12 souls..if capped at 100 souls, I won't do it .

[stuck geyser]

Sweet bro, you'll definitely like it

[red canyon]

Latest talent that i think sooooo 😋
Offense : ended with unbridled savagery(mastered)

Defense ; only hawk stance.. that's all folks

Support : ended with weak point attack (mastered)..

[distant maple]

Anybody can explain me the talent "unbridled savagery" talent which boost unblockable attack damage?

What are these "unblockable attacks"?

Which ones are counted as unblockable, which are not?

[red canyon]

@distant maple
All attacks that unblockable,
i.e if a character using unblockable equipment card(moloch-unblockable SP chance),
kitana bladed fan(basic attack unblockable chance/kobu jutsu tanya SP1/SP2 unblockable chance/common card Shuriken-unlockable chance basic attacks , just to name a few card and etc,, this card will increase chance for a character to make those unblockables - while unblockable, even if the opponent is blocking, it still unblockable..

or characters with tag-in attack abilities(that tag-in attack considered as unblockable)

Kl Ermac killing himself in the end of its life - Kl Ermac's Nuke also unblockable

or the character itself have chances for unblockable passive (i.e, covert ops cassie cage, klassic Kano, Circle of Shadow Quan Chi, just to name a few)..

[red canyon]

If you see, 'BLOCK BREAKER' while playing..it is unblockable attack

[dapper igloo]

That talent is trash but when you have unblockable equipment you can unblock and enemy that blocks your attacks so it will say block breaker

[hot garden]

Guys bone shield or the other shield thingy

[narrow olive]

Revenant

Bone shield is not worth it

Useless after it got fixed

[broken ocean]

lmao rip bone shield

you take no damage but the opponent is still be able to hit you and waste your time 👌

[neon ether]

Have bone cover, gets stunned and pummeled.

[lost vortex]

How about FST 189 set up ?

[dapper igloo]

mk11 team is best

[lost vortex]

Just with that characters can be passed ?, or both with special talent set up ?

[cobalt tiger]

Wait so is bone shield currently bugged or has it been nerfed?

[dapper igloo]

nerfed

[smoky sentinel]

We don't know

[elder tusk]

Just with characters, did it with sub0 scorp jade, assassins give dot which heals mk11

[broken ocean]

is offense and support good tree?

anyone or any mod if you're lurking, can you help me please?

[rancid flare]

Yes, they’re good trees

I’ll show you mine. It’s based on KC team, and KC Johnny’s SP1 and SP2

Majority of points spent on offense and support

[smoky sentinel]

That's what i use

[rancid flare]

@broken ocean

Here you go. Only spent on hawk stance in the defense tree

[broken ocean]

thanks

i really need weak point attacks

[rancid flare]

Yeah, it’s a very good talent

[smoky sentinel]

Mine is in the guide pinned

[oak hamlet]

I miss when teamwork was broken lmao

[smoky sentinel]

Same

[oak hamlet]

Triborgs just kept doing X-ray after X-ray

[eager bobcat]

Doesn’t Teamwork work anymore?

[smoky sentinel]

It does

Just 1/3 of what it was before

[eager bobcat]

Ok because I have it maxed and it seems to be generating power for me quicker than before.

[smoky sentinel]

I use it too, it's a good option

"Before" means months ago

[eager bobcat]

Yes! 😊

[calm seal]

As a noob should I go offense or defense for the talent tree first? Even though I have a bunch of diamonds that are decently built? I have 27 points

[smoky sentinel]

Complete shao kahn tower and get more points

Usually beginners don't have diamonds with brutality

You can look at the guide pinned in this channel, i'd recommend an attack tree with brutal ending for you

[calm seal]

Thanks

[deep wave]

Where my talent lies at the end, got 17 more, dk where to spend them on...

[smoky sentinel]

Lightning blow is good maxed, precision at least r4

[humble dome]

anyone he4re nkow how to block hit

[smoky sentinel]

Tap with 2 fingers instead of 1

[humble dome]

i meant in mc

[rancid flare]

Take any two fingers and hold on the screen

[humble dome]

minecraft

[rancid flare]

In minecraft? I think this is the wrong server for that

[humble dome]

i don;t think so

[rancid flare]

It’s the MK mobile server

Go to a minecraft server and ask that question

[humble dome]

...

[rancid flare]

Or if you want just ask someone in #💬-general

I don’t play minecraft so ask someone that does

[humble dome]

bruh moment

[smoky sentinel]

Please keep this channel clean from nonsense

[dapper igloo]

What’s your talent @crystal jewel

[crystal jewel]

yeah hold up

[dapper igloo]

That’s it?

[dapper igloo]

Nice

[crystal jewel]

yeah

dont need it

4 precision is good

[dapper igloo]

Yup

[crystal jewel]

bc centurian defense

they gotta reflect klassic scorp sp1

[dapper igloo]

This is my talent

[crystal jewel]

ok

[dapper igloo]

Imma switch back to what it use to be but this is what it is now

[crystal jewel]

okie

[crystal jewel]

yep this is good

[dapper igloo]

If I’m being honest WPA is not for me

[crystal jewel]

oh right

[dapper igloo]

I barely use any people with power drain

[crystal jewel]

right

[dapper igloo]

So imma switch back

[crystal jewel]

This is looking good

ok

[dapper igloo]

Now this is my new talent

Well my original talent

For all modes

@crystal jewel

[crystal jewel]

NIce

this one good

[ebon igloo]

There's a talent that disables xray...
What's the name pls?

[smoky sentinel]

Lightning blow

[ebon igloo]

Oh ok

Thanks.

[neon ether]

only boar stance ? i use unbreakable will for added cripple resistance.
bear stance ? hawk stance is better for debuff resistance on tower

[jovial island]

precision is for brutality

defense is for defense

brutal ending is for more brutality

[neon ether]

ok

[dapper igloo]

Precision is best at 4/5 not 5/5 cause you can use that 1 point on something else

[jovial island]

the team I'm using is a brutality team

[neon ether]

what about when doing fw ? brutality only available on some cards.

[dapper igloo]

Yea you can still use 4/5

It applies the same way as 5/5 but just leave it at 4/5 and use the other 1 point for something else

[lofty topaz]

Anyone know a great talent tree for KC Johnny Cage?

Like a sp1 and snare one?

[crystal jewel]

WPA

but keep power drain them

to weak point attack

[hardy girder]

Weak Point Attack and Rapid Response

[crystal jewel]

yea exactly

[hardy girder]

Outworld Scourge too

[crystal jewel]

yep

unbreakable

[hardy girder]

Chance to do SP1 without power cost, more damage and Snare

[crystal jewel]

cripple resistance

works max 5

unbreakable op

for cripple resistance and plus that to hawk stance

[smoky sentinel]

Lightning blow for cripple on sp1

[lofty topaz]

alright thanks

[crystal jewel]

yep

[fresh fossil]

Can someone give me a good offense talent tree?

[woeful fox]

Every has an own taste

[narrow olive]

You got brutality?

[fresh fossil]

wdym lmao. That’s a really vague question

need you to go deeper

[smoky sentinel]

It's a clear question

[narrow olive]

😑

[fresh fossil]

I don’t get it lmao

[smoky sentinel]

Anyway there's the guide pinned

[smoky sentinel]

Do you have a brutality or not? Seems clear

[fresh fossil]

alright I see it. But yeah I have brutality

[narrow olive]

Do you have equipments that are used to perform brutality of any specific diamond?

[fresh fossil]

yes

I do

[narrow olive]

Really? Of who?

[smoky sentinel]

Then brutal ending may be good for you

[fresh fossil]

Kabal and Shao Kahn

[smoky sentinel]

Shao kahn doesn't have a brutality

[fresh fossil]

with special 2...

[narrow olive]

Ohk both epic and rare for kabal

[smoky sentinel]

Not a brutality

[fresh fossil]

bruh ok

[dapper igloo]

I would’ve use death mark if I was u

[narrow olive]

@smoky sentinel Cant tolerate him dude

[smoky sentinel]

Brutalities are special combo enders

[fresh fossil]

then I don’t have a brutality

bruh lmao chill

[smoky sentinel]

You said you have kabal's

[fresh fossil]

the one with buzzsaw trio

if that’s a brutality

idfk

[smoky sentinel]

If you get the "Brutality" screen then you have a brutality

[fresh fossil]

ok then no

[dapper igloo]

Just use death mark

[fresh fossil]

k

[smoky sentinel]

There's the guide pinned btw

[fresh fossil]

I’m looking at it

what does this do @smoky sentinel

?

[dapper igloo]

Just adds 12% more to your mini games like when you do specials or combo Enders

[fresh fossil]

mini games?

[dapper igloo]

Well maxed idk how much

[dapper igloo]

Like the swipe, rapid tap

[smoky sentinel]

It wastes your points basically

Get precision, at least 4 points

[fresh fossil]

alright thanks lol

Yep, just got it

[dapper igloo]

Got what?

[smoky sentinel]

Precision

[fresh fossil]

yep

[dapper igloo]

Oh ok

Confirmation

[spice tinsel]

What is the best X-Ray/Fatal Blow focused build?

[rancid flare]

Really the only talents that improve your x-ray/fatal blow is teamwork, live for battle, and centered. All in support tree

[hot garden]

Yes ik i wasted all my tokens

Help me make a new 1 for normal tower 110 boss

[hot garden]

@prime elm can you help with this too?

[prime elm]

@hot garden Sure thing

[hot garden]

Thx

[prime elm]

Like I can suggest you mine, rest is up to you tho.

[hot garden]

I just want mine to change

It never helps.

[prime elm]

First just reset the entire talent tree

[hot garden]

Just did

I have 85 tokens btw

[prime elm]

Now, in defence just master- Revenant and Shinnok’s teachings

And spend only 1 point on others

In support- just master horse stance and team works

And for offence just spend 1 point in each and unlock as many tiers as possible

@hot garden hope this helps.

[hot garden]

Kk doing it rn

I have 25 token left to offense

Which ones should I prioritize

[prime elm]

I say just go for the talents in the first line

And master the ones which make your special attacks deal more damage

[hot garden]

What do gambler do

What is special attack mini games

[prime elm]

Swipe, tap etc

[hot garden]

Ohhh

What if I do 100%

[prime elm]

Tbh, idk about that, I didn’t really focus on that one

[dapper igloo]

You should finish Shao Kahn tower first can go for precision it’s better 4/5

[hot garden]

What is precision

[dapper igloo]

Gambler isn’t goinng to make a deference

[hot garden]

Oh

Ok

I’ll do that

[dapper igloo]

Combo ender chance increased

You want to see my talent?

[hot garden]

Not rn

I don’t have souls to reset

I’ll ask when I do

[dapper igloo]

Ok

[hot garden]

Ty

[dapper igloo]

Or check the guide pinned #🌲-talent-tree message

Your welcome

[broken ocean]

what is draco's talent tree useful for?

[clever pawn]

spamming mostly

[broken ocean]

any character right?

[clever pawn]

I believe so, ones that do sp1 spam might benefit a little more from lightning blow but besides that its just a damage oriented tree

[broken ocean]

nice using it for kc johnny

[broken ocean]

is there a talent tree fatal 189

[hot garden]

Probably since most of the people use dots to beat 189

I never reached there but I think it’s better to get talents that boosts dots and the ones boost the damage you do to enemies with dots

You can also try using dark raiden for kitana

[elder tusk]

A kc johnny tree is focused on weak point attacks and outworld scourage

[narrow olive]

I have sp1 focused tree+brutality which takes my revenant slot still worth it

[elder tusk]

I don’t use revenant for now I’ll change it when the tower is over

[narrow olive]

I wont change it. It gives me bit of hard time in survivor though. But its not like I am getting anything except reptiles and d vorah's and kintaro's from fw

You can say I get one of these in every 2 fw

Never ever got 2 good challenges in a row forget about diamond

Its 10% chance to get smoke, 9% diamond and 1% noob but for me it 0.01% for even a challenge like d raiden or hanzo

[dapper igloo]

Do you have bd Kabal, klassic reptile, and MK11 scorp?

[broken ocean]

yes

they are F0 tho

[dapper igloo]

Is 189 assassins?

[broken ocean]

yes

[dapper igloo]

Yea use them here

[broken ocean]

i use mk11 scorpion idd

the problem is that kl reptile and bd kabal will both get affected by dark magic

[dapper igloo]

My bad wrong link to wrong channel

[stuck geyser]

Hey so is it true 4 pts on precision is treated the same as if it's 5pts

[smoky sentinel]

Most of the characters don't need 5 points for 100% combo ender chance

Only few characters like inj raiden, marskman kung jin and kw sonya need 5 points

[stuck geyser]

Oh ok so my main team working with klk would benefit better with 5 than 4

[smoky sentinel]

Klk is fine with 4

[stuck geyser]

Ok cool

[ashen totem]

What talents should I do first

[smoky sentinel]

Check the guide pinned

[ashen totem]

Oo ALR

Should I do support because it could give me power generation fast

[smoky sentinel]

Definitely a good option

[ashen totem]

So wait when I finish tower I will have all talents ?

[smoky sentinel]

100 points is the max

[ashen totem]

Oo so you can only finish one talent .

What do fragments do ?

[smoky sentinel]

Everything in the guide

[ashen totem]

Oo you could also get souls

Wow cool.

[sacred turtle]

When relic hunt comes you can resurrect Shao Kahn for100 fragments for one diamond Shao Kahn

[ashen totem]

O so I get free shao kahn

[sacred turtle]

Yup

[ashen totem]

Wow cool

[dapper igloo]

not 100, it goes up every fusion

it costs about 1100 fragments to fx.

[sacred turtle]

Well based on the first fusion it’s 100

[dapper igloo]

oh first fusion, not the intiial card. the initial card is like 24

[jaunty kiln]

If I reset the talent points (after finishing the shao khan tower) I get all 100 back for me to reuse?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[broken ocean]

i need a weak point attack talent tree

i really need it for fatal 195

[jaunty kiln]

I just reset it and now I’m deciding

I only went up to teamwork in support because that’s all I really wanted there. I want the death mark and Revenant

If those are good recommended routes

[smoky sentinel]

There's a guide pinned

[dapper igloo]

What 195

[tame knoll]

The battle on the fatal tower

[dapper igloo]

I remember now but I don’t think @broken ocean need weak points

[jaunty kiln]

How should I go about my defense route?

[dapper igloo]

Up to revenant

Shinnok teachings is bugged for now until they confirm it is actually bugged or it’s apart of the update

[jaunty kiln]

Should I go for debuff resistance or?

Like hawk stance or bear stance

[hardy girder]

Hawk Stance

[jaunty kiln]

Starwalt defense?

[dapper igloo]

I use intimidating defense

[jaunty kiln]

Why?

[dapper igloo]

unblockable chance reduced on enemies so you can block much easier

With out it being block breaker

[smoky sentinel]

Tiny little detail: most of youe enemies don't even have block breaker, and if they do 20% is not enough to counter them

Can only mess with Co cassie

[rancid flare]

Add shadow sash and it becomes a 60% block breaker chance reduction. That’ll make you immune to block breaker, even the tower equipments that have 50% (if you ever meet enemies who have those tower equips maxed)

I would definitely choose intimidating presence, but reaver’s armor is also a good one

[wraith flame]

Is vampiress mellina good?

[rancid flare]

Yes

[smoky sentinel]

Yes but this channel is for talent tree discussion

[wraith flame]

Ok

[smoky sentinel]

I used the one for block breaker reduction, i switched to crit chance reduction now

[rancid flare]

Nice. I think the crit chance reduction is also useful as well

It’s just that block breaker is very, very common. Probably even more common than critical hit chance, so that’s why intimidating presence is more important imo

[smoky sentinel]

Since critical hits are more common than block breakers and lethals, i think it's the best to reduce them

[rancid flare]

Really? I thought block breakers are more common

[smoky sentinel]

In towers they don't even have it

[rancid flare]

That’s true

[smoky sentinel]

And a 45% bb against -20% will still have 25%

[rancid flare]

Yeah, that’s true, 25% is still pretty stable

[dapper igloo]

Well if you have maxed diamonds in quick battle cause survivor is gonna have block breaker team if you progress higher but if you have maxed diamonds in quick match yes they will have block breaker gear on so intimidating presence is cool for that

[rancid flare]

Yeah, exactly. That’s why I think intimidating presence is really important. It’s very helpful for survivor mode

With shadow sash on, you have the ultimate defensive setup

[dapper igloo]

And quick battle IF your going against maxed teams

[rancid flare]

Yup, quick battle as well

[neon ether]

for critical and lethals damage reduction, respirator fx is indispensable.

[sturdy flare]

What talent should i use with shaolin fist KL for increased team power gen?

[jaunty kiln]

Does O.I.A tech reduce the effectiveness of Dark Raiden’s power drain reversal?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

Not like you should build your whole tree around a single character anyway

[jaunty kiln]

So I should go for it?

How should I go about using the last 11

[hardy girder]

max Hawk Stance

[jaunty kiln]

I just did

[dapper igloo]

Teamwork or shirai ryu teachings

[floral sage]

best use of my talents? I normally go mostly offensive

[dapper igloo]

Anything you prefer

[deft oxide]

On pin there are few choices like mand, sano, etc. Whats the usual choice to pick

[smoky sentinel]

Your choice

I use, well, my tree

[deft oxide]

Hmm alright ill choose one of em

[eager raptor]

Just try them all and pick one that suit u best. U may also reset the tree against specific enemies or with different build so no fixed setup.

[dapper igloo]

Whats the best support talents?

[hardy girder]

Maybe Weak Point Attacks and Teamwork

[dapper igloo]

Ah got it

Thanks

[wispy wedge]

Are weak point attacks mandatory for kc johnny or no?

[soft siren]

Yes

Even with opponents wearing the Viper Hood, there is always a chance to successfully trap them. I use KC Johnny and he's a beast

[wispy wedge]

Idk how to set it up tho cuz rn my talent tree is defence and offence

[smoky sentinel]

You could get rid of defence

[wispy wedge]

Yeah but revenant has saved me a lot of times throughout the the tower

[soft siren]

Read the guide and see which one is your favourite. Then with time you will get a better understanding of game mechanics and setup your own talent tree

[rancid flare]

Yup! And the guide is right here: #🌲-talent-tree message

[dapper igloo]

which stance should I get on offense

debating on tiger stance

[rancid flare]

Yes, tiger or lion stance will be just fine. Mantis is the worst option

[dapper igloo]

alr

Tiger stance it is

[dapper igloo]

I mean it don’t really matter cause your not really gonna use it at maxed

[red canyon]

My latest talents' tree..offense ended with unbridled savagery(mastered)..defense not bothered to go further than that, I stand on the best defense is offense..

[neon ether]

tiger stance, i see a man of real offensive mind

[clever pawn]

dont think toughness is that hard to deal with but eh

especially if you are running boar stance anyway

[neon ether]

🐟 have some

[red canyon]

A must have talent, useful in many cases, no matter character with powerdrain or no .. if the character have no powerdrain, assume you have equipment card that have powerdrain , equip it.. it's always nice having chance to snare from a powerdrain espc. with characters mostly have powerdrain on SP1(Johnny, Kenshi etc)..

[carmine flume]

Nornal guy

[narrow olive]

Not only for kc jhonny but for you. You should always have a powerdrainer in your team even if its sp2 but always have weak points

[wispy wedge]

Yeah but now idk how to change it cuz death mark is useful and revenant has saved my life a lot of times

[rotund adder]

@dapper igloo check the pins for the talent tree guide

It has many different talent tree setups

[dapper igloo]

Thanks :) i have read it. but i still wanna hear what others do

[rotund adder]

I just use Draco’s setup

It’s offense and support

[wispy wedge]

Guess im gonna copy draco's talent tree setup too. His seems very good.

But im gonna take death mark instead of brutal ending cuz i dont have any brutality gear.

[broken ocean]

My Talent Tree is copyable for everyone. This talent tree will increase the stats from your characters and it will also help you deal damage. For defense: hawk stance is able to let you resist debuffs for a chance, this talent tree uses revenant which is able to give you invincible shield if one of your teammates die during a battle and bone shield can save you in some situations so you won't take any damage if chance.

• Shinnok's Teachings doesn't have to be maxed now, as bone shield go nerfed so you can ignore it or still use it if you want.

• Precision can be kept at 4 points.

If you use this talent tree and share it to someone, make sure to please credit me aswell.

[wispy wedge]

Yeah i was about to say that

[broken ocean]

this is just an older footage

this talent tree increases your stats a bit more and your damage

i use this with my vengeful shinnok and it's crazy

[rancid flare]

My talent tree, available for copy. Only need hawk stance in defense, you do not need revenant or bone shield in order to win battles. But if you do want to dig deeper into defense, I recommend intimidating presence and centaurian defense

[rotund adder]

Why is everything maxed in support tree?

[rancid flare]

Offense:
Precision for chaining basic attacks
Lin kuei tutorage for critical hit damage (you do NOT need to max it out, it is already effective enough at F1)
Rapid response and thunderous blows for SP damage boost

Defense:
Hawk stance only. No need for stuff such as revenant or bone shield because you do NOT need them to win battles, and instead you can spend all those points you would use for those two talents on support tree. However if you want to dig into defense more, go for centaurian defense and intimidating presence

Support:
Boar stance in order to synergize with characters who have stun (such as KC Johnny and mk11 raiden). Shield break is very good, it removes the opponent’s shield buff (if they have it) and it increases your damage by +100%. Each shield break can stack

Spec ops tactics for 20% power generation boost on tag in. You can choose whether you want teamwork or spec ops tactics, both are great

Meditation for innate SP1 power cost reduction

Weak point attacks for a chance to snare on power drain

Outworld scourge for a chance to get free SP1 without spending any power. This is a very good talent, it triggers very often and it also helps you achieve your maximum damage potential (just like boar stance/shield break). Perfect for scorpion cards, Johnny cards, and pretty much every character in the game.

[rancid flare]

Outworld scourge works like a charm

Perfect for characters with strong special 1

Such as KC Johnny, mk11 scorp, etc.

[rotund adder]

Yes but live for battle and meditation are maxed

[rancid flare]

Live for battle isn’t maxed. Meditation is maxed for innate power cost reduction

Live for battle at 4 points is good, you save basically a bar of power after doing SP3

[rotund adder]

I’m assuming you use kc johnny a lot right?

[rancid flare]

In the towers, I use KC team with klassic sonya instead of KC sonya (because KC sonya is useless for boss battles). I stack 2 shield breaks with Sonya, and I do my x-Ray with kc Johnny. Roughly 1 million damage right there, easy

Yes I do use KC johnny a lot

[rotund adder]

yeah it’s good talent tree for tower

[rancid flare]

Yeah, for the tower I think it’s great. Also pretty decent for general use

[rotund adder]

I keep renevant though for battles like fatal 189

[rancid flare]

Haven’t changed it at all

Yeah, maybe revenant is needed for 189

[broken ocean]

so i've finally made my own message

but no one's gonna notice my talent tree that's the funny thing

[rancid flare]

Yes they will, I will make it known right now

#🌲-talent-tree message

Check it out, if you need a talent tree 😉 👆

[dapper igloo]

yo why is your lin kuei tutorage mastered?

[dapper igloo]

Hey i did :)

[broken ocean]

ty

[rancid flare]

Works with kusarigama in the tower

[rancid flare]

However like I said it’s definitely not needed to max out

I basically just had nowhere else to spend points on so I just spent my leftover on lin kuei tutorage

[dapper igloo]

what about warlock spells?

[neon ether]

Apex predator team

[rancid flare]

Indeed

[dapper igloo]

warlock spells? life drain & regen boost?

[rancid flare]

Not everyone is gonna heal or regen

So it’s situational

[neon ether]

1 point there

[rancid flare]

Yeah, maybe one point there

[dapper igloo]

why not use edenia's champion rather than outworld scourge?

[rancid flare]

Edenia’s champion = 10% chance for free SP
Outworld scourge = 15% chance for free SP

1. You use special 1 a lot more in a match
2. Outworld scourge will trigger much more often

[smoky sentinel]

Depends

On some characters you never use sp1

[neon ether]

I would recommend tiger stance for first offense tier, all character gets to ignore 10% of enemy toughness, if this is from base toughness, its pretty good, basically you are increasing your attack on all cards. If enemy has 40k base toughness, player has 36k attack, that will even out.

[clever pawn]

||both sound awful on paper||

[rancid flare]

Yeah, that’s true

[rancid flare]

On paper, yes. But I promise you that Outworld scourge is amazing

Edenia’s champion I can confirm is not very good

[neon ether]

Kl goro and kl jax are 2 that used sp2 when i play. Sp1 is 🪦

[rancid flare]

Yeah, those are some characters that have much better SP2’s

[broken ocean]

depends on which you want to use

[neon ether]

They have good power gen luckily

[broken ocean]

johnny will use outworld scourge

[rancid flare]

The replacement to edenia’s champion is to just use equipments with 50% reduced power cost on SP2. That is MUCH better and it’s a 100% chance of triggering, unlike edenia’s champion

[smoky sentinel]

Also mk11 sub0, CoS kung lao....

[broken ocean]

mk11 sub0 will use edenia's champion for example

that's how it's done

with outworld scourge, it has more chance for sp1 and it lets you be able to get sp2 faster too

[rancid flare]

@dapper igloo Also, here’s a full overview of why I chose what I chose

[clever pawn]

Will never be fully convinced with outworld scourge, talents with 15% chance to work sound like straight up dogshit for me

[rancid flare]

Exactly

[rancid flare]

I use SP1 a lot with KC Johnny, and I can guarantee you I get at least 4-5 free SP1’s on every boss battle attempt

[clever pawn]

Meh

[rancid flare]

And my SP1 does about 120k damage. So you’re looking at about 500k+ extra damage right there

[broken ocean]

i can admit what bruh moment says is true

i use his talent tree with kc johnny

i was able to spam sp1 in sometimes

it's op

[rancid flare]

Yeah, it’s very op. Looks bad on paper but performs very well

[broken ocean]

with weak point attacks, if one powerdrain doesn't snare

you have a chance to spam sp1 again and gives more chance for snare

[rancid flare]

Exactly, that’s the point. Synergizes with weak point attacks perfectly

[broken ocean]

also co cassie helps kc jc, him being able to do unblockable sp1 sometimes

[neon ether]

When you hit a free sp, keep tapping, chances are you are hitting the jackpot, sp train.

[rancid flare]

Indeed. Cassie’s passive block breaker also triggers a lot for me as well

[clever pawn]

Oh yeah a 75% chance to have your blocked special not do crap

Not sure I will ever get the way you guys like chances

[broken ocean]

lol try it

don't judge a talent tree by its cover

[rancid flare]

Well, the whole game is based on RNG, so we can’t really do anything about it

[clever pawn]

Way too inconsistent

[rancid flare]

We’re just telling you our experiences with RNG

So it may be accurate, or it may not be accurate

[clever pawn]

The game has rng, doesnt mean you have to use the stuff with the lowest chances

[dapper igloo]

ok thanks for all the help with talents @rancid flare & @neon ether :)

[broken ocean]

i could've helped you too

oh well

[dapper igloo]

You did as well :) thank you

[broken ocean]

np

[neon ether]

Bruh moment did all the heavy lifting, we are just cheering 😅 🤣

[rancid flare]

It’s easy for me to type anyways so it’s not that big of a problem lol

[broken ocean]

how much wpm do you have?

[rancid flare]

No idea lol, haven’t tested it out or anything

[broken ocean]

ok

having fun with cos quan chi

such a nice reward from fatal tower

[rancid flare]

Nice! That’s great

[rotund adder]

My talent tree, it’s useful for anything in general and towers

[rancid flare]

Very diverse but at the same time, you conserved your points for the best talents and only maxed out a select few. I like it 👍

[rotund adder]

The only thing I don’t have is wpa

But I don’t use power drainer

I just use them to prevent sp2 from bosses

[rancid flare]

Interesting, nice!

[rotund adder]

In my talent tree I don’t rely on snare, but on surviving and dealing large amounts of damage at a short amount of time

I just fight whoever tags in and that’s all I do

[deft oxide]

On defensive side, which notable talent before revenant thats worth maxing?

[oak hamlet]

Hawk stance

[rancid flare]

Cenraurian defense, intimidating presence, stalwart defense, OIA tech, fujin’s boon, and cyber lin kuei programming are all great talents

And yes also hawk stance

[oak hamlet]

I have Centurion defense as well it's pretty meh but nice when it reflects an X-ray

[rancid flare]

True!

Satisfying and relieving when you reflect SP3

[oak hamlet]

I haven't changed my tree since Death Mark was needed for Nightmare tower

[rancid flare]

Wow, so it’s been 7 months and no talent tree change lol

[oak hamlet]

No need it works

[deft oxide]

Alright ill see what i can do, thanks guys

[rancid flare]

@dapper igloo When maxed, it’s -40%

[dapper igloo]

yeah but like does it mean power drainage like when the opponent power drains u

or how much it takes to use a special

[clever pawn]

It affects the power drain the opponent does to you

[silent coyote]

I still don't have much talent points im trying to finish shao kahn's tower

@rancid flare @broken ocean

[broken ocean]

what i can tell you is that oppurtunist and gambler both are useless

precision is the best

[silent coyote]

what does gambler do

[broken ocean]

for the rest the offense tree is good

[silent coyote]

i think it gives sp more dmg?

[broken ocean]

gambler gives a special attack mini games bonus to their result which is completely useless

[broken ocean]

no

[silent coyote]

the mini games ones like click or swipe

[broken ocean]

yes those are minigames

[silent coyote]

ok that's ass imma change it

[broken ocean]

always have precision for there

the rest is decent

same for support tree

[silent coyote]

ok

when i get more

What thing i shall upgrade in support?

[dapper igloo]

Because you didn’t finish the Shao Kahn tower I would say don’t unlock a new tree if there’s not enough points

[silent coyote]

yeah im tryina finish shao kahn's tower

[broken ocean]

these are the talents i can tell you can use when you have points

so the support tree is in the right path

choose live for battle

[dapper igloo]

Just in case you need ideas check the guide that’s in the pinned section

Swipe to your right there will be a pin

Click on that then there will be a link to the guide

[silent coyote]

ok

[broken ocean]

by looking at some of the talents i can tell some of them are horrible

[silent coyote]

ik what's pinned message

[broken ocean]

like "focused" for example

[silent coyote]

i've been usin discord for over 2 years lol

Focused ass tbh

[broken ocean]

"combat veteran" is another useless one i see

[silent coyote]

I might pic live for battle

[broken ocean]

yes it's the good one

[silent coyote]

I want like insane power gen.

[broken ocean]

for the next it's actually optional but you can choose either meditation (used for sp1 spamming) or unbreakable will (cripple resistance)

[dapper igloo]

Then I suggest teamwork and horse stance

Is bests

[broken ocean]

i see

[silent coyote]

spec ops tactics give 16% power gen extra

level 3

while tag in for 10 seconds

which is like broken for me.

[broken ocean]

replace boar stance with horse stance and spec ops tactics is already a good one

[dapper igloo]

I don’t like spec ops tactics cause it’s only for 10 secs you will equipment that has the same amount but without the 10 secs

[silent coyote]

I used boar stance bc i use mk11 raiden

so if they stunned they can get sheild break

Then sp2 them with wrath hammer and crit chance

[broken ocean]

and then the next things you also use is meditation, outworld scourge

[silent coyote]

NOICE

I want free sp2's tbh

Edenia champion or idk the name of it

[broken ocean]

horse stance, teamwork, meditation and outworld scourge is the best tree for power gen

[silent coyote]

Edenia champion yes?

[broken ocean]

outworld scourge is better

[silent coyote]

what does it do?

[dapper igloo]

Free sp1

15%

Chance

[silent coyote]

what about sp2?

what's the chance

[broken ocean]

outworld scourge gives more chance for sp1 and with sp1 you can already save up easily to sp2

[dapper igloo]

Edianen champion

[silent coyote]

well mk11 scorp sp1 is broken so yea i il go with that

[broken ocean]

and then the last two talents of support you can skip them

this is literally what bruh moment uses i see

[silent coyote]

what about defense?

Shall i get bone sheild?

since it's nerfed

[broken ocean]

i still use bone shield

because it can save you in some situations and it's invincible shield

[dapper igloo]

Ehh I don’t use it anymore cause of the nerf/bug

But we are not officially sure if it’s a bug or nerf

[silent coyote]

hm what shall i get instead?

[dapper igloo]

They didn’t confirm it

[silent coyote]

it's a nerf i've been told.

[broken ocean]

you can either choose offense & support or offense & defense

[dapper igloo]

I’d say just stop at yea but not officially

[silent coyote]

yeaa

[silent coyote]

wait so if i do shao kahn tower 2nd run

can i get extra talent pts?

[dapper igloo]

Wait that didn’t make sense

[silent coyote]

or i can't do 2nd run

[broken ocean]

the total talent points you can get 100

[dapper igloo]

What I meant was stop at revenant for defense cause bone shield barely apply before the bug anyways

[broken ocean]

i have done it earlier so i have 102 lol i am lucky

[silent coyote]

lmao

[dapper igloo]

You can keep playing Shao Kahn tower for the fragments for relic hunt but no more talent points

[dapper igloo]

Same

[silent coyote]

ok

[dapper igloo]

But some people say bone shield is bugged and others say nerf but I say bugged for now until we hear something from nrs

[silent coyote]

What's the boss battle in fatal 60?

[broken ocean]

so for easier explanation, you can either choose a high damage talent tree with some defensives like revenant or you can use a talent tree that allows you to spam special attacks and it has weak point attack

[dapper igloo]

I forgot

[silent coyote]

oog

oof

Anyways thanks a lot for help ily guys lmao

[dapper igloo]

Your welcome

[dapper igloo]

im on it currently, its MK11 Rain, Ravenous Mileena, and Klassic Reptile

[tame knoll]

When kl scorpions spear is used and they aren’t blocking, why does centaurian defense still kick in? They aren’t blocking, I do his spear, then once it hits I take all the damage. Is this a glitch or is it supposed to happen

[dapper igloo]

Wether they block or not, it still counts as unblockable

[tame knoll]

So unblockable or just unblocked

[dapper igloo]

Unblockable

[tame knoll]

That’s bad

[dapper igloo]

Good for the player

Very useful for me

[tame knoll]

It happened in survivor for me :(. Made me go to quarter health

[neon ether]

Blockbreaker hits are unblockable

[tame knoll]

I know that but when the opponents are not blocking and I do kl scorpion sp1 it still gets redirected to me

[neon ether]

Blocking or not, some attack are unblockable by design or when reaching certain %

[dapper igloo]

But did you achieve 80%

Or higher on the special attack

[tame knoll]

Yeah I did

[dapper igloo]

That’s why if it reflected cause if it achieve 80% or higher it’s unblockable

Hence why centaurian defense activated on you

[neon ether]

Neat trick with kl scorp

[dapper igloo]

New talent tree

[narrow olive]

No brutality lol. I don't have revenant. Only till brutal ending in offence and till outworld scourage till support and defense only hawk stance maxed

[placid jay]

@dapper igloo how many talent points u got total?

[dapper igloo]

I been stop using brutal ending then went to death mark

[dapper igloo]

102

[placid jay]

@dapper igloo 👍👌

[narrow olive]

Why? Brutal ending is better

[dapper igloo]

No and plus I am not always gonna use brutalities 24/7

And yea brutal ending was cool but I wanted something to benefit all my characters so I used death mark

But I don’t use it now

[narrow olive]

What about towers? Like 180 goro ressurecting no deathmark and brutal ending

[hardy girder]

He said he went to Deathmark

[zinc rapids]

Damage and health my favorites but I really don't like recovery is much

[smoky sentinel]

Recovery is the best stat in survivor

[zinc rapids]

TRUE BUT STILL...

[smoky sentinel]

Still, what

Still it's one of the best stats to have

[zinc rapids]

Support cards: hold my beer

[smoky sentinel]

The more the merrier

[zinc rapids]

The more recovery???

[dapper igloo]

It don’t matter I can still beat it

[dapper igloo]

I already beating it anyways

[zinc rapids]

As Michael Jackson said just beat it

[dapper igloo]

And plus @narrow olive I never needed it before they changed things in the talent tree in 3.0 I never needed death mark but when I think about it it’s natural with the resurrection

[smoky sentinel]

Deathmark was changed with 3.0

If you didn't need it before is because it didn't prevent resurrections

[dapper igloo]

And death mark don’t even apply when it someone in has resurrection anyway

[dapper igloo]

Yea I know I just basically said that

Smh

[dapper igloo]

Does it still help you in a lot of situations?

Cause for me barely applied even before the UNOFFICIAL bug

[crystal jewel]

Mongoose is one of the best recovery stats ever and tag out health regen

[broken ocean]

yes

i just have to get really lucky

[narrow maple]

I have 40 talent points.. What do you guys recommend?

I had put it all in offense and got to death mark but I was thinking of doing a reset

[untold pagoda]

Midmatch Brutality