🌲-talent-tree

[strong lintel]

Could someone tell me a good talent path for someone that forgets blocking is a thing, and that always spam attacks

[clever pawn]

Definitely defense tree maxed and then you can choose between offense or support

If you get hit at least

If not focus on support and offense

[stuck geyser]

The better option respectably for the next ladder

I was thinking lightning blow and red dragon

[reef hazel]

Personally I love Lightning Blow, my tree doesn't focus on defense but red dragon seems like a good choice

[elfin vortex]

I know brutal ending is better but deathmark works just as well if you don't have brutality equipment

[rancid flare]

Death mark is kinda similar to brutal ending so yeah

[clever pawn]

Deathmark has a lower chance if I recall correctly, so unless you use gold kards a lot brutalities are the way(if you have the sets)

[rancid flare]

Yup

[stuck geyser]

I basically got not alot of equipments for brutalities so death marks gonna be my choice

[velvet trout]

Should i max revenant and 1 for bone shield OR 1 revenant 1bone shield then move to next talent tree OR 1 REVENANT max bone shield ????????

[smoky sentinel]

Both should be maxed, with only one point they're basically useless

[velvet trout]

Ok thank you very much @smoky sentinel

[valid rampart]

Anyone can share the best talent tree setup.. Which works in every situation..

[clever pawn]

We dont realistically have enough points for that

The best setup tends to vary on what the current tower is like

[frank vector]

Wpa , precision, shinnok teaching or revenant are must in every situation.
Except is ur choise..

If anyone doesn't use them means they have extraordinary stratagies or brilliant brain.

[smoky sentinel]

Revenant and boneshield are not really a must

Check the guide pinned to find inspiration

[frank vector]

I answered you before u correct @smoky sentinel

😅 👍

[smoky sentinel]

I've seen it

Just saying that should not be considered a must, and that you can live easily without them

[frank vector]

Yeah . I too use only bone shield

[smoky sentinel]

The only talent that is really a must is precision imo

[frank vector]

No revenant.

I use wpa.

Bcoz 50 % of my maxed golds have power drain.

[smoky sentinel]

Same

[frank vector]

👍

[dapper igloo]

There is no meta, Talent depends on your collection.

For example, if you usually use mk11 team with sub0 then revenant is not important, other cases it is one of the best.

My best champion do snare (i think 30 seconds) so weak point atack is not worth to me.

[frank vector]

Ur from this class @dapper igloo

[dapper igloo]

No, im an old man! 😂 I use revenant and shinok traching. 😃

But no wpa.

[frank vector]

U have excellent stratagies

Good collection

[earnest oracle]

you don't actually need bone shield

revenant is pretty much the same

better

[smoky sentinel]

Boneshield can trigger more often, revenant only when you're about to die

[elfin vortex]

Thinking about just offense and support, no defense. Just to see how it works out

[smoky sentinel]

That's what i use, it works fine

[crystal jewel]

I use brutal ending bruh @rancid flare

[rancid flare]

Nice lol. I don’t have brutality so I don’t use that

[crystal jewel]

It does kill people with brutalize

[rancid flare]

This is what I use, ultimate free sp2 and power saving talents

[crystal jewel]

is this good?

[rancid flare]

Yes

[crystal jewel]

I dont use support tree 😂

[rancid flare]

You should lol, it’s really good, weak point attacks and power saving

[crystal jewel]

heck naw

bruh

ez

[rancid flare]

Naw bruh you need all branches in order to succeed lol

[crystal jewel]

omg

[rancid flare]

Just get spec ops tactics in support tree if you don’t like

[crystal jewel]

oh heck naw

bruh

[rancid flare]

20% power generation on tag in for 10 seconds

[crystal jewel]

No

lol

[rancid flare]

Yes

Worth it

[crystal jewel]

Should I get rid of brutal ending but why?

[rancid flare]

You don’t need too, if you have brutality then you need it

[crystal jewel]

I have brutal ending and brutality gears

but I dont need it

support tree

dont need it lol

[rancid flare]

If you have brutality gear then keep brutal ending

[smoky sentinel]

You can just use both

[rancid flare]

Okay then that’s your choice lol

[crystal jewel]

see

told u

[smoky sentinel]

You can just use attack AND support

[crystal jewel]

They will die

[rancid flare]

See I told you lol

[crystal jewel]

bc my ronin kenshi die

[smoky sentinel]

Who doesn't?

[crystal jewel]

revevenant shield saves

[smoky sentinel]

Yeah but in lkt, the enemies are too weak to be a problem at least until level 180

[crystal jewel]

ok

[rancid flare]

Yeah exactly so why not use support tree then lol

[crystal jewel]

why?

[rancid flare]

Then if you don’t like it you can switch back to defense tree

[crystal jewel]

defense tree op

[rancid flare]

It’s just that you’re too reliant on revenant, you don’t always need revenant to win. I’m living off revenant just fine

[crystal jewel]

Ok ok

[rancid flare]

I don’t blame you though, everyone is reliant on revenant

[crystal jewel]

Should I remove offense or go for support tree?

[rancid flare]

It’s a good talent but you gotta spend like 50 talent points for it

[smoky sentinel]

Remove defense

[rancid flare]

No keep offense and support

[crystal jewel]

why defense?

[smoky sentinel]

Because you don't need it

[rancid flare]

In defense just max out hawk stance or bear stance

[crystal jewel]

Ok ok

[smoky sentinel]

Hawk is better, debuff resistance is never enough

[crystal jewel]

I max my hawk stance?

[rancid flare]

Oh alright. Max that out instead

Yes it’ll help you a lot

[crystal jewel]

why 91 talent tree points?

[rancid flare]

Wdym lol

[rancid flare]

Oh, what? Did you spend it before

[crystal jewel]

which one should I do?

[rancid flare]

Ok let me see

[crystal jewel]

Draco and @rancid flare

[rancid flare]

Horse stance I think is good

[crystal jewel]

which should I do for support them?

[rancid flare]

You don’t do stun right, so boar stance won’t help

[crystal jewel]

Boar stance or horse stance?

[rancid flare]

What does horse stance do again

[crystal jewel]

2% power

[smoky sentinel]

Mongoose , no need to max it

[rancid flare]

Yes that’s good

Or, mongoose stance for recovery like draco said

[crystal jewel]

horse stance is good for max

[smoky sentinel]

Useful in survivor too

[rancid flare]

You can choose if you want power generation or recovery

[crystal jewel]

only 1?

[rancid flare]

Yeah it’s not that good, spend 1 point on it

[crystal jewel]

mongoose or horse stance?

[rancid flare]

Mongoose

[crystal jewel]

ok

[rancid flare]

2% power generation for tagged out teammates won’t make much

Mongoose is better

[crystal jewel]

why?

[rancid flare]

Only if you max out horse stance then it’s good

But you don’t wanna waste points on it

[crystal jewel]

is this good then?

[smoky sentinel]

This is my setup

[rancid flare]

Ok here now you can use spec ops tactics. Teamwork got nerfed so that sucks

That’s good right there

[crystal jewel]

teamwork or spec ops? Draco

[rancid flare]

You still keep teamwork draco lol

Even after the nerf?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[rancid flare]

Oh wow, I always use spec ops tactics

[crystal jewel]

is spec ops good?

[smoky sentinel]

I like to tag someone only after they charge at least one bar, so i'm safer

[rancid flare]

Oh alright

Get teamwork then i think you’ll have plenty of power generation

[crystal jewel]

Spec ops tactics or teamwork?

max 5 for teamwork?

[rancid flare]

Teamwork

Yes it’s a good talent

[crystal jewel]

ok ok

[smoky sentinel]

Yes, whatever you choose, max it

[crystal jewel]

I max it for teamwork

[rancid flare]

Ok nice

[crystal jewel]

it gets more power gen

[smoky sentinel]

Good

[crystal jewel]

1 live for battle ok

[rancid flare]

Live for battle? Ok

[smoky sentinel]

One point is enough

[rancid flare]

You could’ve gone for warlock’s spells instead but it’s ok

I think having extra regen and life drain could be nice. But don’t worry about it

[smoky sentinel]

You basically never get them normally

[crystal jewel]

this one good?

[rancid flare]

Oh yeah that’s true

[smoky sentinel]

Meditation ,one point

[rancid flare]

Meditation is the best out of that

[crystal jewel]

Alright

[smoky sentinel]

Then max weak point attacks, and for support you should be done

[rancid flare]

Yeah

If you wanna take it a bit further and get outworld scourge or edenias champion

For free sp1 and sp2

You can do that

[crystal jewel]

which should I do?

max lin kuei reverse?

[rancid flare]

Ok good. Now, do you want free sp1 or sp2 or do you just wanna leave support tree

[smoky sentinel]

No one if you think you don't need them

[rancid flare]

If you don’t need them then it’s ok

[smoky sentinel]

For support reaching weak point attacks is usually enough

[rancid flare]

Yeah

[crystal jewel]

is this good enough?

[rancid flare]

Yes

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[crystal jewel]

or move on to offense?

[rancid flare]

Go to offense and add in the talents that you usually use

[crystal jewel]

This one

[rancid flare]

For offense you should know which one

Yes go ahead

[smoky sentinel]

Just copy this if you want^

[rancid flare]

Question, why do you only put 4 points in precision? I put it at max

If it doesn’t help at max then I’ll take note of that

[smoky sentinel]

Only few characters need it maxed

[crystal jewel]

why is shirai ryu teaching good?

[rancid flare]

Oh alright, got it. I still keep it max just to be safe

[smoky sentinel]

Like inj raiden, kw sonya, marskman kung jin...

[rancid flare]

Ah okay

[smoky sentinel]

Extra power gen

[crystal jewel]

ok

[rancid flare]

Having a 100% critical hit chance team would be so good with shirai ryu teachijg cause you get 10% extra power per hit

Very op

Like shirai ryu teachings would be really good with ur ronin team

[crystal jewel]

why is only 96 points in talent tree?

[smoky sentinel]

Should be 100

Did you complete shao kahn tower?

[rancid flare]

How are we supposed to know lol, it should be 100

Maybe a glitch?

[crystal jewel]

is this better?

[rancid flare]

Okay nice

Yeah this is all good

The last 6 points use it on hawk stance

20% debuff resistance is good

[crystal jewel]

intimidating presence or Stalwart Defense?

[rancid flare]

Let me check what stalwart does

[crystal jewel]

already did

whats Stalwart?

[rancid flare]

Stalwart is critical hit chance reduction

[crystal jewel]

I max this out?

[rancid flare]

Just do unblockable chance, do intimidating presence

It will make block breaking equipment semi-useless

[crystal jewel]

maybe it is a glitch

96 points into 100 points wth

[rancid flare]

Yeah probably a glitch

[crystal jewel]

???????

???????

[rancid flare]

You ran out of points?

Oh wow lol

[crystal jewel]

yeah wtf

im done

I quit this game

[rancid flare]

What why would you quit the game over this lol, it’s just an error

We promise you, you’ll be successful here

[smoky sentinel]

My guide is made with 100 points

[crystal jewel]

mine is 96 points bruh

[smoky sentinel]

And you're not supposed to have less than 100...

[rancid flare]

Cause you got the help of the one and only elder god

[smoky sentinel]

Did you complete shao kahn tower?

[crystal jewel]

I did complete it

[rancid flare]

Maybe it’s just a glitch, I’m sure he’s done with it

[crystal jewel]

yeah idk whats wrong with me

[rancid flare]

It’s ok. You’ll still be very successful

Support tree is good

[crystal jewel]

Im dumb

sorry

[rancid flare]

Support tree offers so many things, power generation, reflect damage, free specials, power saving

[crystal jewel]

I got it all wrong

[rancid flare]

It’s ok, don’t worry about it!

[crystal jewel]

I put inmidating presence wrong one

[rancid flare]

Oh ok. Reset talent tree and redo it if you want

[smoky sentinel]

No need to

Both are good

[crystal jewel]

yeah I suck

[rancid flare]

Yes intimidating presence is good anyways

[crystal jewel]

I got a trash one

but only 1 intimidating presence

bruh

why?

why we dont need revenant shield?

[rancid flare]

Cause you should be able to try to live without it

[smoky sentinel]

Because if you play well, they can't kill you

[rancid flare]

You don’t always need it

Yes if you play well, they can’t kill you at all

[crystal jewel]

why?

[rancid flare]

Wdym why lol

It’s not necessary to win every battle

[crystal jewel]

they cant kill you for what?

[rancid flare]

What? I don’t understand what you’re saying lol

[crystal jewel]

idk 😂

[rancid flare]

lol

[languid tinsel]

[crystal jewel]

what????

[languid tinsel]

idk

don’t question it

[crystal jewel]

yeah I need to play well ok

[frank vector]

Any suggestions for lqt......

Regarding #🌲-talent-tree

[smoky sentinel]

How we can suggest something if we haven't seen the tower yet?

[frank vector]

What talents can be useful in tower.

[smoky sentinel]

Read what i said

[frank vector]

Okk

I will find out myself

[dapper igloo]

Doesn’t matter how i play, they gives missilles, arctic wind, stupid bat, random freez, stun, 3 power starting opponents, dark Magik ... lots of unavoidable damages...

Very easy to die, without get a single hit :smiley:

[smoky sentinel]

I mean, i've been playing for months without defense, i lose only in few tower battles

[dapper igloo]

My favorit was klassik Raiden in nt, he killed me after tagin without fight 😍

[smoky sentinel]

Lol

Yeah he's dangerous
sp2 right after tag in

[frank vector]

Hello ....

I made reset and concentrated on support and defence for lkt.

I noticed that deathmark rng is very bad and never triggers when jeson, wqc, sfs, gmsub0 or kgoro are on the enemy team .
Except then it always triggers for me.

Support 1st talent boar stanse 1 point

@hardy girder @smoky sentinel @clever pawn
Any suggestions or mistakes i made..?

[smoky sentinel]

For towers, you want to kill bosses as fast as possible, so attack tree is always the best option...

Also, good luck against boss grandmaster if you don't have deathmark or brutalities

[frank vector]

Deathmark summery for me.

Deathmark itself forced me to remove that .

[smoky sentinel]

You had it maxed?

[frank vector]

I havnt used revenant or shinnok teaching this time

[frank vector]

Only thing maxed in offence last 3 times.

It was working everytime but agaist non resurrecting enemies.

[smoky sentinel]

Ironic...

[frank vector]

So only way to deal with that.

What would u choose
Outworld scourage or ediana's champion....?

[smoky sentinel]

If you spam sp1, outworld scourge

[frank vector]

Yes i am..

[smoky sentinel]

If you need sp2, edenia's champion

[frank vector]

And between centered and outworld scourage.

Whats ur choise then

@smoky sentinel

[smoky sentinel]

Outworld scourge

[frank vector]

Well ok

Im tring teamwork 1st time how it work

[smoky sentinel]

It's good

[frank vector]

Explain the passive of talent plz .i didnt get .

[smoky sentinel]

10% of the power you use is shared with your teammates

[frank vector]

Means after using special or
While filling the bar.

[smoky sentinel]

After using specials

[frank vector]

And 10% of used or 10% of u have after special

[smoky sentinel]

10% of a bar

[frank vector]

💯 🙏 😅

[clever pawn]

I probably wouldn't max Oia Tech and CLK programming but the rest might work if it really suits your playstyle

Tho yeah GM Subz is gonna revive if you dont have anything to stop it

[lofty topaz]

Does anyone know of a good talent tree for MK11 team?

[broken ocean]

let me give you one hold on

starting off with offense, this should do some good damage to the opponent

you can max cruel affliction aswell which will boost dot damage but there are some opponents that can have dot immunity

so it's your choice

[lofty topaz]

Alright thank you

[broken ocean]

and if you have brutality gear for mk11, just go for brutal ending instead of death mark technique

[crystal jewel]

I use without no shield nothing 😂

[dapper igloo]

Huh?

[neon ether]

My current tree

[crystal jewel]

?

[dapper igloo]

What you said at the top

[crystal jewel]

I dont need revenant shield

[dapper igloo]

Oh

[crystal jewel]

and shinnok teaching I dont need it

[dapper igloo]

Why?

[crystal jewel]

bc my ronin team can win @dapper igloo

[dapper igloo]

And so yours is a good fusion

[crystal jewel]

bc my ronin kenshi do it alone f9

[solemn pecan]

What does bone shield do?

[crystal jewel]

its for shinnkok teaching

if you get hit

[smoky sentinel]

If you get hit by special attacks, you gain invulnerability for few seconds

[dapper igloo]

Should I get black dragon training (crit hit chance boost) or rapid response (spec 1 damage boost)?

[dapper igloo]

Black Dragon Training

[dapper igloo]

Ight bet

[hoary willow]

Cool

never use it but great haha

[solemn pecan]

Looks like injustice scorpion doesn't have combo enders

Does he?

[broken ocean]

it summons bones around you and you get invulnerability for a few seconds so you can attack the opponent and they can’t attack you then

[broken ocean]

he does have one

it’s his first combo ender where he jumps and punches the opponent to the ground

[crystal jewel]

why we dont need revenant shield for?

[dapper igloo]

Uhh?

[dapper igloo]

Why?

[crystal jewel]

?

[dapper igloo]

Why don’t we need it?

[dapper igloo]

Aren’t asking us why we don’t need it or your trying to tell us?

[crystal jewel]

Bruh

[dapper igloo]

Well idk

[dapper igloo]

They are probably fighting with mk11 team, and sub 0 can do it with 100%.

Otherwise revenant and bone shield is a useable Talent

[lofty topaz]

What’s better for the talent tree, the one that gives special attack 1 damage boost? Or the one that gives you more critical chance

[frank vector]

If u u bssic attack and sp2 spammer then critical hit chances.
If u spam sp1 then ofcourse sp1 damage boost..

@lofty topaz

[lofty topaz]

👍👍

[dapper igloo]

Yep

Talent Tree highly dependent on the Kollection.

Something perfect for me, but may be useless to you

That is why there are lots of trees pinned for different players and teams

Everyone says how good is wp atack, but it is unnecessary to me, because my jade and kabal can do it with 100% chance.

Same with revenant with mk11 sub0

But that's for me cuz I use kc team and later it will not when I'll max out mk11 team

[dapper igloo]

I will neither use revenant nor wp after maxing mk11 team

Till mk11 team is f1 I have weak points

That's the point

[nocturne eagle]

@smoky sentinel why would Shirai yu teaching be better than thunderous blows

[smoky sentinel]

I don't remember what thunderous blows does, but anyway: power gen

[nocturne eagle]

It is extra sp2 damage

If you give power gen to your character. You can spam sp2 easily

[smoky sentinel]

Yeah don't find it too useful

[nocturne eagle]

Lol I reset my tree like 5 times today. Trying to find the best tree to go through boss fights faster

[smoky sentinel]

Power gen is better

[frank vector]

I guess best for tower

[smoky sentinel]

Always better

[reef hazel]

Power gen is good, I'm having fun inflicting cripple and shield break with sp1 spam...

[frank vector]

I was answering for this.

[stuck geyser]

Hey guys so i have 3 characters with brutality equipments but they arent my strongest team should i just go with death mark?

[smoky sentinel]

Which characters?

[stuck geyser]

noob/subz/scarlet

[smoky sentinel]

It's a really good team tho

[stuck geyser]

my kold war subz is at f1 and kold war scarlet is f1

my actual team is f4 klk/grandmaster subz at f9/f5 inferno scorpion

i decided to redo my talents again and followed the utuber MAND's strategy for general strategy

[smoky sentinel]

There's a guide pinned here

[stuck geyser]

i looked it up he is in the updated pin

he is the first one in the recomended setups

[dire sleet]

I really don't understand the talent part of the game.. what is it abt?

[smoky sentinel]

Check the pinned guide

[elfin vortex]

Should I max out weak point? I have 3 points on it

[smoky sentinel]

Yeah

[crystal jewel]

I forgot about centered im stupid 🤦‍♂️

Centered is so broken

I got centered maxed

is this good?

[crystal jewel]

Look at this @broken ocean

This centered so broken

[broken ocean]

what does centered do?

[smoky sentinel]

Basically a teamwork for yourself

[crystal jewel]

10% power spent on special and X-RAY and fatal blow

Draco

ty for the centered

but ty so much

and ty for that information for helping me

[smoky sentinel]

[crystal jewel]

Yessir

[crystal jewel]

This is my talent tree

I used without no shield nothing with it

[clever pawn]

Am not sure why you are investing into unbridled savagery

[rancid flare]

Yeah just invest in lightning blow

[crystal jewel]

Bc it gives unblockable boost

[rancid flare]

Unbridled savagery is only good with klassic noob saibot

[crystal jewel]

What???

[rancid flare]

It’s actually broken I think, you only get increased damage on one unblockable hit

[crystal jewel]

Bruh

[rancid flare]

Yeah it’s proved to be broken I think

Or maybe that’s just how it works

But only with klassic noob saibot it works perfectly

[crystal jewel]

Brah

[clever pawn]

The thing with savagery is that attacks stop being unblockable after the first hit, so you are only boosting x rays

[rancid flare]

Yeah exactly

[clever pawn]

Take Jax grapple, the only part that gets the boost is the grab

[rancid flare]

Yup, the grab that does 0 damage gets the boost

So just replace that with lightning blow

[crystal jewel]

Why tho

[clever pawn]

It actually has less damage than Takeda Kunai combo ender

[rancid flare]

Wdym why we just explained why..

[crystal jewel]

what???

lightning blow 😂

[rancid flare]

Yeah lightning blow is the best out of all

Art of tsunami is not good, unbridled is not good

Lightning blow is so good cause it disables x-ray too

[crystal jewel]

I forgot about lightning blow 🤦‍♂️

[rancid flare]

5 second cripple that disables not just sp1 and sp2, but x-ray as well

[crystal jewel]

Im so dumb

I forgot bruh moment sorry

[rancid flare]

It’s okay lol

[clever pawn]

In times of dire need, its time to run boar stance

[crystal jewel]

I was forgot about lightning blow and why is unbridled is not good?

[rancid flare]

Here is why it’s not good

Sorry for the tag I’ll turn off the tag next time

But yeah that’s why unbridled isn’t good

Unless if you have klassic noob saibot then it’s amazing

[clever pawn]

Am used to it by now dont worry

[crystal jewel]

I change to it unbridled to lightning blow ok?

[rancid flare]

Yes that’s ok

Lightning blow triggers a lot at least for me, I’m lucky with it

[crystal jewel]

I failed

sorry

Thunderous blows or shirai ryu teachings?

[rancid flare]

What does thunderous do again

[crystal jewel]

special attack 2 damage boost

I like thunderous blows and I havent used it a long

[rancid flare]

Oh ok. Depends on you; if you want 10% extra power generation on critical hits then do that. If you want sp2 damage do that

Yeah use thunderous if you want

[crystal jewel]

okay

I try

[rancid flare]

Ok

[crystal jewel]

26% special attack 2 damage boost

[rancid flare]

That’s really good

Yeah keep that

[crystal jewel]

Lightning blow 15% chance cripple

100% brutal ending when it use for brutality gears

[rancid flare]

Yes lighting blow triggers very often

[crystal jewel]

when someone wears it

[clever pawn]

Thats one of the few talents where its a pretty close call

[rancid flare]

Depends on you, if you want cripple on all specials (including x-ray) get that

If you want brutal ending get that

[crystal jewel]

precision 30% combo ender chance

[rancid flare]

Oh wait nvm you already have it

Okay that’s good

[rancid flare]

Yeah that’s good

[crystal jewel]

is this better?

[rancid flare]

Yes

[rancid flare]

Ok that’s good

[crystal jewel]

GGs

[rancid flare]

Nice

[crystal jewel]

GGs over

Centered plus teamwork makes even more op

[rancid flare]

Yeah

[crystal jewel]

with SF johnny SF Scorp and KLK even more best teams

[rancid flare]

Centered only works for the character you’re using

[crystal jewel]

Centered so op 100%

[rancid flare]

Tagged out characters get affected by teamwork

[clever pawn]

What did centered do again

[rancid flare]

Centered is a teamwork for yourself basically

[crystal jewel]

If you dont use centered you will lose

[rancid flare]

No you won’t lol I’ve never tried centered and I’m not on a losing streak or anything

But centered is good for sure

[crystal jewel]

with cyper armor plus cyper heart even more power

mk11 scorp op with cruel afflication

[clever pawn]

Personally I only care about boar stance and wpa from support tree

[crystal jewel]

powerful dot of survivor

[clever pawn]

Everything else looks too subtle

[rancid flare]

I mean, centered is basically like a reduced power cost on all specials talent

I don’t know if it stacks with an equipment that has reduced power cost though

That’s something to test out

[clever pawn]

Not sure but I dont think it does

[rancid flare]

But I understand, centered may not make much a difference

Yeah probably not

[crystal jewel]

yeah I like centered

Mk11 scorp fx and he is godly insane fire passive

with strangehold exposing weakness and cruel afflication

[clever pawn]

You would probabably benefit from boar stance quite a bit if you like using mk11 scorp and klk

[crystal jewel]

KLK is better with KW sub and Hellspawn scorp

Klassic Liu kang KW Sub Hellspawn scorp are best team with opprtunist

they can one shot through bosses 10-200

but someone beat it 200 in 1 try

[frank vector]

@smoky sentinel
Deathmark betrayed me again..
Triggered 0 times on 170 boss fight....

[elfin vortex]

Weak point is about as far id go on support

[crystal jewel]

Is this good?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[crystal jewel]

Centered is helping me to win through the towers

Which one is better spec ops Tactics or teamwork?

Hawk stance is really good too

[smoky sentinel]

Teamwork if you don't tag in too often, spec ops tactics if you switch often

I use teamwork because i prefer to tag someone in only when they have their special attacks ready

[crystal jewel]

Spec ops tactics good?

yep

they engage the power

like enrage right?

they gain enrage more power gen?

[smoky sentinel]

10% of the power you use is shared with teammates

[crystal jewel]

yeah modifiers right?

[smoky sentinel]

With spec ops tactics, they have increased power gen for few seconds after tag in

[crystal jewel]

right

I use teamwork and it is really good tag too

[dapper igloo]

Yo tell me why I had a dream on using weak point attacks

Now really until I can fuse up my infernal chains I might come back to WPA but idk yet

[smoky sentinel]

Wpa is the best talent for triborgs

[dapper igloo]

Now with team work if someone is strong and I can spam sp until my other teammates get up to 2 bars that’s when I tag them in

[dapper igloo]

Facts

But I might just come back

But with my good gold fusions imma see if I need defense

[smoky sentinel]

That's what i do too

[strong lintel]

is there a talent for block break?

[smoky sentinel]

No

[strong lintel]

rip

[clever pawn]

There is one to resist block break but thats about it

[slow pond]

How to beat 200?

[clever pawn]

Break their gear or fight them 1 on 1

Use snare in case they escape

[frank vector]

How many of you changed talent tree for fight 200😅

[sullen knot]

Once you get rid of that one thumbsucker, the others aren't too much trouble.

[sharp plover]

Changed it to what ?
Is there a TT for 200 ?

[frank vector]

Many players needed to change the stratagy for 200.

[sharp plover]

OK, so what's the optimised TT set-up for 200 ?

[frank vector]

As per their new strategy

[elfin vortex]

I can't decide between lin Kuei or shiriu

[dapper igloo]

Of what

[elfin vortex]

Talent

[dapper igloo]

The Lin Kuei and Shirai Ryu teachings? @elfin vortex

[elfin vortex]

Yeah

[smoky sentinel]

Use both

[dapper igloo]

Right

[sullen knot]

Sorry for the amount of time it took.

No complaints as of yet from me, hehe.

[dapper igloo]

I finished the tower like a few days ago and I'm on battle 20 and I haven't got any skill points

why?

[smoky sentinel]

You only get points in the first run

Max is 100

[dapper igloo]

Oh

So what do I do now

[smoky sentinel]

Use them

And check the guide pinned if you want

[dapper igloo]

So I can't get any more points until I reset my talents?

[smoky sentinel]

If you reset you reset your tree

So you remove everything and you get your points back to spend them again

[dapper igloo]

i have 101 talent point

s

[fading flame]

im trying to find best tree centered around kosplay jacqui ( pretty much maxed ) - F7 circle of shadow sub-zero/jax and f4 takeda are next best things i have atm.
are any of the "standard" trees from guide good for that?

having had a loooong break between playing makes for a little skewed lineup

[smoky sentinel]

Just use talents that fit more your playstyle

[fading flame]

so, make jacqui hit extra hard and others just tag along 😄

[smoky sentinel]

Yeah

Some talents are always good, like precision (at least rank 4)

[fading flame]

at 40k toughness combat veteran looks like a decent choice ... probably need to re-evaluate my choices which i made on the fly the first time

[smoky sentinel]

If you have doubts, maybe it's better to follow the trees in the guide first

Combat veteran is not a good option

[fading flame]

yeah... trying to figure out what is most suitable on the guide for me... brutal ending i dont need yet because i dont have any of the sets

[smoky sentinel]

If you don't have brutalities go for deathmark, always helpful

[fading flame]

yeah.. gonna go through all of them and see if there are any big no-no things that dont work with just pure brutal beatdown

[smoky sentinel]

Offense is the best defense 😁

[fading flame]

yeah

she's kitted with total of 88% basic attack damage boost atm.

probably finding something that helps me hit unblockable attacks will help

also crits?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[rotund adder]

Should I get deathmark or brutal ending? I only have one brutality set

[smoky sentinel]

If you use the brutality guy often, get brutal ending, or else deathmark works for everyone

[deep kernel]

Is this any good?

[neon lotus]

Do you have Teamwork?

[rancid flare]

Yeah this is good

[deep kernel]

Teamwork?

[rancid flare]

I think if you invested in thunderous blows that would be good too but that’s ok

Teamwork is not that good anymore since the big nerf, but it’s decent

[neon lotus]

Oh, was it nerfed?

[deep kernel]

I had invested into it before but I didn't with this build as the defense is a bit more important

[rancid flare]

Yeah it got nerfed, before it used to refund like 30-40% power. Now it refunds 10%

It was bugged, it was always supposed to be 10% but it was like 3x higher than that

[deep kernel]

So the build is good?

[rancid flare]

Yes

[deep kernel]

Okay thank you, my first time making a build and I wasn't sure what is good

[rancid flare]

No problem

You chose two really good talents, black dragon training and lin kuei tutorage

Those two talents and a maxed out thunderous blows is so op

[deep kernel]

I may respec and max it out, I wasn't so sure about it because the defense is a bit more important for me

I have a hard time fighting high level teams and it makes FW unfun

[rancid flare]

Yeah that’s ok, you don’t have to. At least you have lin kuei tutorage and black dragon training, that’s good enough

[deep kernel]

I wanted a decent mix between the two

But damn I hate MK11 teams, going against them that is

[rancid flare]

Yup that’s true

[deep kernel]

Mainly Jade and Scorpion

[rancid flare]

Yeah

Kabal is annoying too, interrupts you a lot

[deep kernel]

Kabal and Raiden are the least annoying for me

Kabals is more annoying when you can't block/tag out though

[rancid flare]

Yeah that’s reasonable

Raiden is kind of squishy, kabal is fast and can obliterate you with an sp2 or something

[deep kernel]

Let's take this back to general lol

[rancid flare]

Yup lol

[clever pawn]

Only odd picks I see are red dragon over cyber linkuei programming and bear stance over hawk stance

The rest are somewhat more up to you as they are kinda equally as good

[marble berry]

Going to try this on baytle 188

[crystal jewel]

Opportunist op

[crystal jewel]

I max lightning blow and black dragon training op

and brutal ending max

got pretty good set up for talent tree

Should have max 3 lightning blow wrong one

[crystal jewel]

I max weak point attack 5 max and 4 mediation

[crystal jewel]

Death mark are important and need to focus on mk11 sub 0

and weak point attack is good to use for 200

[boreal sage]

Use brutal ending and max it out if you want to do brutalities all the time pretty much

[outer sapphire]

I've switched from OIA tech to Ghost armor and have seen a big improvement--maybe this is old news and I just figured it out? Not sure, but worth trying. To at least 30% dmg to pwr ratio

[broken ocean]

definitely ghost armor because powerdrain can still drain your power a bit and powerdrains don't really come that common (depends on the characters you fight, alot of FW people use equipments with crits so it's good to gain power from them

also you can even use debuff resistance such as hawk stance or some equipments with debuff resistance

so OIA tech imo is useless talent

[outer sapphire]

Yeah, me 2! Thanks u tube for crappy advice for newbies

[stuck geyser]

Nice here's all mine starting with offense

[crystal jewel]

Mine is good talent tree set up

[stuck geyser]

I'll have to copy urs and try it out

But I'll still keep my deathmark tho

[crystal jewel]

but if you have bruality gears

[stuck geyser]

I do have brutality gears but my diamonds aren't nowhere close to be competitive

[crystal jewel]

will show you my KW sub 0 and KLK and SF johnny my gear set up #🏯-towers-relic-hunt

[stuck geyser]

Only got a f1 kw subz and f0 mk11 subz
F1 kw scarlet and f0 mk11 noob

[crystal jewel]

I have all diamond

yeah I have all brutality gears missing

Jade Sonya Skarlet Raiden I dont have

[stuck geyser]

Yea me I'm just making due with gold's lol

I'm not playing with a dedicated KLK team because the other two can't support KLK right now

[clever pawn]

Uh, whatever floats your boat ig

[stuck geyser]

If I'm playing klk and subz would opportunist be better than precision

[fringe glen]

Anyone got any good support tips

[dapper igloo]

However you like it

[dapper igloo]

That’s the point of the talent tree pick what fit YOU and YOU ONLY

[stuck geyser]

No duh I have been doing this already but at the same time if other people have tested it out and it just happens to be better I'd like to know

[dapper igloo]

There’s only one way to find out right? That’s what I’m saying

[stuck geyser]

I mean yeah in the end if no one replies with their input I'ma end up testing it out but just don't want to waste 24 souls if I'm wrong

[dapper igloo]

But you can gain those 24 souls in a matter of no time

[smoky sentinel]

Precision is always the best option no matter what, at least 4 points

Better to go with talents that are good on everyone, so you don't have to reset your tree every time

[wooden ferry]

Which talent is gud..teamwork or spec ops tactics??

[dapper igloo]

I say team work

[wooden ferry]

I'm using spec ops tactics..some of them says teamwork is nerfed...idk

[dapper igloo]

It is but it’s still a good talent

It wasn’t nerfed it was bugged at first then they fixed it in 3.0

[wooden ferry]

Ohh anyway ...I'm going for spec ops tactics

[dapper igloo]

Ok

[reef hazel]

It all depends on your playstyle, if you are more of a "constant tag in and out" player, spec ops tactics is better, if you're more of a "stand your ground until the end of the battle" type of player, teamwork is better

Teamwork by the way, isn't nerfed, in the past it was bugged that it gave an insane amount of power. The devs simply fixed the bug to where it now gives the correct amount of power

[neon ether]

If you are fighting a boss that needs to switch cards often to snare, then to deathmark etc, spec ops tactic is good to help spam sp attack

[clever pawn]

I wouldnt go for teamwork currently, am just messing around with boar stance and ignoring spec ops tactic cause am not gonna tag in all the time for some conditional power gen

[dapper igloo]

Well no cause once you’ve gain a lot of power from tagged out teammates you want to use the character with most power

[clever pawn]

Its more of a teamwork takes forever to fill bars now that it works as it should

So you dont really tag in often due to how little it does when it acts as intended

[neon ether]

Teamwork needs those power reduction talent, so you can spam sp to quickly distribute power to the team, works really well with certain card with high base power gen or passive like kw sz in kold war team, kl raiden with spec ops team. Also smoke triborg in triborg team.

[clever pawn]

Nowhere near what it once was, not interested on spending so many points to get a pebble discount on specials

[neon ether]

suit yourself

[crystal jewel]

I max my weak point attack

[dapper igloo]

I switched back to death mark instead of brutal ending cause I needed something to benefit golds and sliver and bronze teams as well

[elfin vortex]

Combat veteran is pretty much a useless talent

[crystal jewel]

meditation is useful

[crystal galleon]

Hello guys, I am playing this game for 6-8 weeks after a year break. I have won 77 battles of Shao Kahn Tower so far and this is my Talent Tree. kindly suggest me is it okay? And where do I invest my remaining points after winning

[dapper igloo]

Invest it anywhere you would like to put it

[elfin vortex]

@crystal galleon looks good to me. I would change Fujins boon to red dragon. But it is your choice

[dapper igloo]

Red dragon is useless in my opinion I’d go for Lin Kuei Programming because the duration for dots and frostbite is less

[elfin vortex]

@dapper igloo true but stun and power drain resistance come in handy more often than dots shortness I think

[crystal jewel]

I max my weak point attack and 4 meditation

[dapper igloo]

That’s why you have hawk stance

[crystal jewel]

yeah why u have it 😂

[dapper igloo]

And dots do more damage and frostbite slow you down so it make it easier when it’s gone sooner

[dapper igloo]

Have what?

Hawk stance

[crystal jewel]

Not u lol

Hawk stance is helping to win

because the debuffs

[dapper igloo]

Yea hawk stance is all you need you don’t need red dragon training

[crystal jewel]

yeah I dont need it

[dapper igloo]

You can get Lin Kuei programming instead

[crystal jewel]

I use support and attack talent tree

but I like centered

[dapper igloo]

Yea but I saying that about the other person

[crystal jewel]

Ok

is oppotrunist good?

[dapper igloo]

Yea but I don’t use it

[crystal jewel]

same I dont lol

but I never used it b4

[dapper igloo]

If you use scorpion or Sub0 characters a lot then might as well use it

[crystal jewel]

but I like lightning blow and I put 3

[dapper igloo]

I have lighting blow maxed it saves me

[crystal jewel]

I use offense and support are good to know

meditation is good for scorpion sp1

[elfin vortex]

@dapper igloo in that case O.I.A tech is useless bc of hawk stance

[dapper igloo]

Yea but I still have it at 1/5

[neon ether]

red dragon training resiatance is added on top hawk stance. higher debuff resistance, less likely dots will affect you. above 70% debuff resistance is good, rarely dots will work against you. so it depend on your gear too.

[zealous nexus]

What is the best talent tree?

[smoky sentinel]

There is no such thing, it's up to you and your needs

You can check the guide pinned if you're looking for ideas

[pseudo spade]

Who needs dot resistance when u can use mk11 team to heal from them

👁️👅👁️

[broken ocean]

imo revenant

but there are alotta talent trees that are good

[dapper igloo]

But not everyone uses MK11 team 24/7

[pseudo spade]

Its an option tho 🤷‍♂️

[elfin vortex]

Trying this out for now

[dapper igloo]

My last time changing my tree for a while

[cobalt citrus]

Is death mark technique better or brutal ending?

[smoky sentinel]

If you don't have brutalities, brutal ending is useless

[cobalt citrus]

Ok thanks

[broken ocean]

even tho if you have brutalities or not, i would say death mark

it can stack up damage and prevent ressurection

[dapper igloo]

It’s beneficial for everyone so I use I have brutalities but I use this because I use gold cards too so I can take them out and stack 30% damage

[elfin vortex]

Does anyone use gambler? It seems useless

[dapper igloo]

I honestly wouldn’t get either. Death mark has a lower chance of happening, and for me personally was never there for me when I needed it

[dapper igloo]

Did you have precision at 4/5? Cause with that you have a better chance for it

And people with combo Enders that don’t last long won’t apply as much people that has a long combo ender attack has a better chance

[dapper igloo]

Yeah, upgraded to the max. It still was a rare occurrence.

[neon ether]

I have not been using precision for awhile now, used opportunist instead for lkt. Works fine for me, even on fw.

[dapper igloo]

You use death mark as well?

[neon ether]

No, i use brutal ending for now

[cobalt citrus]

No for me i got it stacked to 3 really quick

[dusky steppe]

excuse me, did anyone know how to get talent coin? im new in here

[smoky sentinel]

Play shao kahn tower

You can check the guide pinned for more infos

[dusky steppe]

okay thanks

[frank vector]

@cobalt citrus its too upon luck @dapper igloo

[elfin vortex]

They should do away with combat veteran, gambler and Fujins boon. They are useless talents imo

[smoky sentinel]

They already changed the TT with 3.0, if they're still here is because someone uses them/ they want them to stay

[tight lake]

What does art of tsunami do

[smoky sentinel]

The Art of the Tsunami: 22-30% Chance Combo Enders deal 20% damage to all targets.

[broken ocean]

damages the whole opponent's team after doing a combo ender

[tight lake]

It would be op for injustice raiden

I guess

[broken ocean]

that's why i've always enjoyed him

[tight lake]

Then I would switch to art of tsunami

[smoky sentinel]

I prefer lightning blow

Chance to cripple on sp1, it disables xrays too

[broken ocean]

precision + art of tsunami useful for inj2 raiden

[smoky sentinel]

Inj raiden needs precision maxed for 100% chance to get the second combo ender

[crystal jewel]

is precision really good for the combo ender?

[neon ether]

Depends on you

[crystal jewel]

but why is it very good precision

[neon ether]

I dont use it now, since lkt

[crystal jewel]

ok

[neon ether]

Keep experimenting, see if it works well for you. I run various talent trees, i found that i lean more on power gen support, rarely use dot talent.

[crystal jewel]

okay

[smoky sentinel]

Because it gives 100% chance for combo enders, and combo enders= more damage

[crystal jewel]

Oh ok I might try that I put on 1

[smoky sentinel]

At least 4 points

[crystal jewel]

ok

[smoky sentinel]

Only few characters need it maxed

[crystal jewel]

how tho

[smoky sentinel]

But with less than 4 points it's not different than 0

[crystal jewel]

its for character do combo enders?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[crystal jewel]

okay

Which one is better Meditation or precision?

[smoky sentinel]

Precision

[crystal jewel]

I take off a 4 for meditation?

to put 4 precision

[smoky sentinel]

You can just check the guide in the pinned messages, it has the answer to all your questions, even those that you didn't ask yet

[smoky sentinel]

Yeah

[crystal jewel]

ok 😂

hawk stance is really useful

[torpid crag]

Hey guys I'm sorry if this is a repeat question but I haven't used discord in a while - I'm having an issue with talent tree. I had only 97 points all of a sudden so I reset the tree thinking I'd get the full 100 like usual. But now I have only 95 talent points. Anyone else losing more and more talent points? Is this some lame new trick like talent survivor mode or something ? This is nuts. Had I known I would have left the tree alone.

[soft siren]

Send a ticket to support addressing that issue

With your account ID and all the diagnostics stuff, including screenshots as well

[torpid crag]

already did. Thanks. Just wanted to know if anyone else has this issue

[soft siren]

That was pretty common specially for older accounts

[drowsy harness]

What is the max amount of points you can earn in the talent tree? The guy above says 100, but I think I have 102.

[subtle nova]

Max is 100

[dapper igloo]

Someone has 107

[dapper igloo]

In the old updates you can have more than 100 but they let those people with 100 and above keep that amount I have 102

[elfin vortex]

Spirit of vengeance makes more since than revenant

[dapper igloo]

Ehh I used it before it’s useless revenant saves you

[crystal jewel]

is imtimidating presence good?

[dapper igloo]

Yea but you wouldn’t need centaurian defense

Because it cancels unblockable attacks

[crystal jewel]

its because unblockable attack

because I need it

to defeat in fw

[dapper igloo]

So then don’t use imtimidating presences

[crystal jewel]

I do use it

[dapper igloo]

IMO

What I’m saying is intimidating presences reduces enemy chance on unblockable chance so you wouldn’t need centaurian defense cause that reflects it but it wouldn’t reflect anything if intimidating presence is maxed

[crystal jewel]

but imtimidating presence is op

[dapper igloo]

Yea but that mean centaurian defense is useless now

[crystal jewel]

its really not useless lol

when they counter attack

[dapper igloo]

It’s making it useless is what I’m saying I’m not saying it’s useless all the time

[crystal jewel]

Ghost armor op

[dapper igloo]

I’m saying with intimidating presence maxed centaurian is useless because of intimidating presence on

[crystal jewel]

yeah ghost armor aint useless

[dapper igloo]

I never said it was bruh

[crystal jewel]

it gets more crit power

[dapper igloo]

I know

[crystal jewel]

When they attack and reflect the defense

its because centurian defense

[dapper igloo]

I know what the talent does

[crystal jewel]

yea I know

[dapper igloo]

Then why explaining to me about the talent?

[crystal jewel]

ok lol

[crystal jewel]

but imtimidating presence and centurian defense are different talent

to reflect unblockable specials

But which is better Ghost armor or shirai ryu teachings for crit power generation?

But I use imtimidating presence and centurian max 5

[smoky sentinel]

Shirai ryu teachings is active power generation, while with ghost armor you have to get hit

[crystal jewel]

yeah it does count

yea ghost armor does count shirai ryu teaching if max 5

[smoky sentinel]

I use stalwart defense to reduce crit chance on the opponents, so ghost armor is not a good option for me

[crystal jewel]

yeah really stalwart defense is good

its reducing crit chance opponent

[crystal jewel]

This good set up?

[smoky sentinel]

Use mopre points on weak point attacks, or else is useless

[crystal jewel]

but which one should I get rid of?

centurian defense?

[smoky sentinel]

Get rid of centered and use the points to upgrade the rest

[crystal jewel]

why?

[smoky sentinel]

Wpa should be maxed

[crystal jewel]

ok

so I keep the teamwork max 5

the weak point attack to be max 5?

[dapper igloo]

So @smoky sentinel what you think tho?

[smoky sentinel]

Of what

[dapper igloo]

Do you think centaurian defense is useless when intimidating presence is maxed cause IMO I think it is

I just want your opinion on this

[smoky sentinel]

It works against grapple and xrays

[dapper igloo]

Yea

That’s it?

[smoky sentinel]

Idk what did you expect?

[dapper igloo]

Oh no I thought there would be more to add but nvm

[smoky sentinel]

Intimidating presence reduces block breaking chance, but centaurian defense works against xrays and grapples

So if you want to use both do it nothing's gonna change

[elfin vortex]

Lol that's why I don't mess with defense anymore, except hawk stance

[smoky sentinel]

I have hawk stance and stalwart defense, that's it

[crystal galleon]

Finally obtained all 100 Talent Tress but didn't use a single one on offense. My focus was defense and Support

[dapper igloo]

Should I do Black Dragon Training or Rapid Response? Both sound very good

[smoky sentinel]

I use black dragon training

Crit chance is always good

While with some characters you don't want to use sp1, or you just get crippled

And a critical special will deal more damage anyway

[dapper igloo]

Alright, thanks

[outer sapphire]

I used2 max out def3nse w/ WPA's & 0 offense. (Fig'd smarter) FWSM changed things tho (&4me) seems offense= better defense?? Fyi I have maxed equip & fighters. I keep coming back to this setup:

[outer sapphire]

Maxing sp1&2 is making biggest diff I think, this setup I've moved 2 points back to defense but have taken away from centurion which used2B @ 4of5. Grapples& Xrays = heavy dmg so maybe I'll go back.. again this is having maxed fighter's using equip w/maxed unblockable basic attacks*. I call this KobraKai stance: strike 1st, strike hard, no mercy sir!! lol

*unb sav is better 4 unblockable I know but trying to find best general setup

[smoky sentinel]

If you really want a "attack is the best defense" tree, you should definitely check mine lol

[outer sapphire]

How do I find?

[smoky sentinel]

Check the pinned guide

It's featured in it

[outer sapphire]

The brutal ending is awesome but only for a few. I'm trying to get to a "middle way" so I don't have to spend souls to refresh. I've tried SRT's bc it looks great but even w/teamwork maxed I can't tell that much of a diff. LB's I notice against me but when shifting pts to get seems I'm losing somewhere else. They've made it very strategic 4sure

[pulsar bronze]

Should i wait until i get more brutalities to switch from Death Marks to Brutal Ending? or should i switch now?

[smoky sentinel]

If you use the one with brutality often, go for brutal ending

[smoky sentinel]

I've been using this tree for every battle since 3.0, never disappoints

[pulsar bronze]

It's skarlet, so yes.

[outer sapphire]

U talking towers or survival mode?

I'm looking 4ward to update that allows 4 saved talents!

[smoky sentinel]

Every battle

I don't change my tree

Offense is the best defense

[outer sapphire]

Seems all ur other gold teams r missing out tho compared to Death mrk..

[smoky sentinel]

I don't miss it

[outer sapphire]

Haha ok looking 4ward to test drive then--

[pulsar bronze]

Aight, rebuilt my tree, made it more DOT based since i'm running both Skarlet and Scorpion and added Brutal Ending Obviously

[smoky sentinel]

Imo, dots-based trees are not so effective, because they can either be immune or heal from them

Crits are much better as they work against everyone and it's just extra damage for everyone

[pulsar bronze]

Ah.

...Maybe i should re-remake it then...

[smoky sentinel]

If you want to

Maybe just try it for a while and then choose

[pulsar bronze]

Yeah

It's not gonna be helpful during tower bosses, DOT immunity obviously

so wait, will brutal ending cancel out Skarlets Blood Rain?

[smoky sentinel]

No

[rotund adder]

Is it a good idea to go for support and offense?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[dapper igloo]

However you like it

[rotund adder]

I used your talent tree setup and it’s really good, thanks

[crystal jewel]

is mongoose stance good for recovery?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[crystal jewel]

but I might keep that

for survivor mode to recovery to heal

is this good set up talent tree?

But trying to keep mongoose stance to max 5

and because max 5 brutal ending is useful too

and max 5 for centurian defense

[narrow olive]

@crystal jewel Do you have brutality?

[crystal jewel]

i do lol

[narrow olive]

Noice

But tree depends on your team

What team do you use the most?

I mean your strongest

[crystal jewel]

SF johnny SF Scorp Klassic Liu kang my strongest tower team

KW sub 0 SF Scorp and SF johnny

[narrow olive]

Better if you have max precesion

And don't use bone shield

Sf scorp will save you twice

Revenant is also not that important if you have frost orb or living dead

On sf scorp

So all of them stays alive

[crystal jewel]

yea I cant lol

bone shield useful too

[narrow olive]

Still you can save characters like 3 times

So no need

You can keep revenant but I wont recommend it

Cuz you only have 2 points on it

[crystal jewel]

why?

[dapper igloo]

That’s 2 points on shinnoks teachings

And revenant is also good no matter if you have living dead or frost orb or sf scorp it is always good

Just sayin bruh

[elfin vortex]

Is combat veteran effective?

[crystal jewel]

No

I dont use combat veteran sucks

but mediatiton better

[narrow olive]

It is but not according to his team. If it was some other team like ronin then it would have been much more helpful as they die as soon as their health finishes

[dapper igloo]

Yea but having revenant even tho you have resurrection gear and teams on its still good to have that extra protection