#🌲-talent-tree
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i copied the talent tree from the pin comment, just wanted to double check these don’t matter ?
They don't
thank you !
Is talent tree the same for klash tower?
For attack yeah
Anyone got talent for defense? like to be annoying as possible for tower
revenant and bone shield lol
Centurian defence laughing in the corner
Ded chat
How you got so many souls 😭? Years?
Bag, when you reach 100 Not the first time he give you 1
Wym sorry am new
its really not that many
Green
greenland? how did bro know
I'm him.
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The one in pinned is best all around? For krypt and towers?
Yes
Thanks just copied been using my own for a while that I made as I levelled up , so switched over to try this one
I have 104 but only 100 work
102
Dont go above game won't let
102 is the normal one
Thanks@lone blade
I got 37 talent points.what should i unlock or upgrade on my talent tree
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I want to choose horse stance rather than boar stance in support
Boar is better
Thanks
Hi guys, is there a specific way to start the talent tree or it doesn’t matter the way I start unlocking talents ?
What do you think about the last support slot they added that involves kameos? Worth it?
No
Hello I only have 92 points but I’ve fully completed the tower
Do you have anything equipped?
I figured it out I had points into weak point attacks
And edenias champion but when I reset the talent tree the points still stayed in them skills that’s why it said 92
Which talent is where your team regens health if they are not tagged in?
None, recovery is a stat all characters have
hmmm ok, im doing krypt rn and the other 2 aren’t healing atm
i think im bugged no gamemode i played let my team recover any health
is there a fix?
There is no bug man
oh nvm im tripping
It's a passive team, you recover health and power automatically while tagged out
But some modes have deep wound modifier that reduces all healing
mb for a few fights it didnt pop up on the side
oh i see thank you
How do you get the extra 2? Hard capped at 100 and didn't figure out yet
normally it's for a select few old accounts
up to a certain point in the game, you just gained 1 extra point if you redid battle 100 of the tower
Ahhhhhh dang ok so i'm gonna be stuck at 100 😭 it's nbd i'm just 2 short of pinned talent tree
not sure if it has ever changed but you could try reaching battle 100 and seeing if it ever gives one extra point in the game ever again
Perfect ok! Gonna try that now cuz not like i got realm klash to do haha
Thank you so much
It does give you 1 talent point everytime you beat the tower after original run.
I need help getting the extra talent coins since still stuck at 100💀
I just realised I have a 102 this whole time I didn’t know you were only allowed 100 normally
You are allowed 102
I mean newer accounts, it’s now capped at 100 right?
I have like 105 talent points but whenever i use the 103 it asks me to restart the game
Can only use 102 max
Yeah i know… i have those extra points.. they are useless
Copy the pinned tree
How’s everyone doing today how’s yall afternoon
Wrong chat for that question
So I can get only extra 2 after the 1st completion?
this is acc my fav build
Thanks bud
Should I be using the talent tree
Been playing on and off since launvh
Never used it
Yeah it's kinda a must
Playing without talent tree is making everything more miserable for no reason
Seemed like it idk why ive always neglected it
Which talent point allows tagged out teammates to heal faster
Send the talent tree here @honest reef
if you don’t have enough then you can just not fully max out horse stance or something else
@inland roost this is a pretty general tree but you could change things like horse stance to boar stance if you have a stun character
What are these for?
For Relic Hunt
With is Time event from time to time
U got this fragments and when Shao Khan comes u can grab him for free
It does count even when event is unavaible so do it:)
Later enjoy
Or no😂
O thx
Np
I can’t defeat them, it’s floor 200 of the Lin Kuei Tower. What do you recommend for talents?
@smoky sentinel do i copy pin talent loadouy
Yes
Wow im resisting to alot of debuffs and my vampire heal is alot
Warlock spell is🔥
🔥🔥
Max talent points is 100
it used to be 102 but now you can only get to 100, remove 2 off of warlock spell for 100 point builds
How am I going to remove it
The warlock spell
They meant when copying the tree in pinned
How please I don’t understand
It’s pinned in this channel
Okay I have sent it so I should copy it right
I mean I have seen it
Yeah
That's why you remove 2 points from warlock spell
Okay thanks
Guys like this and it doesn’t complete
What's the issue?
You've set all 100 points
You're meant to only put 2 points in warlock spells
And max wpa
Yes
Are there any guides on talent trees?
Copy pinned
Ok, thanks
Does this mean each normal attack dealt to an enemy which isn't blocked gets you more power or it only applies to those attacks which break enemy blocks?
Only those that break the block
Copy pinned in #🌲-talent-tree
Yeah I'm looking forward to it when I have enough talent points with but with like 47 I am confused where to start in there, just going in support for more recovery and special attack boosts and less costs for it
Also why they have their regen so high man they were healing even in battle not just out of it that level was like crazy hard all that for a talent point 😂
Like the game is pretty similar on things from what I've played in past but I also know these games like this have a on paper vs on battle difference where one thing which actually sounds good isn't really on paper, cause of being outdated or bugs and sometimes lack of competence on devs side
Man been a while since I felt like a noob xD
Get hawk stance first and then copy atk
Alright man
I like it you can reset the talent tree as many times as you want and even make presets for different things, dude this is the best thing ever in mobile games lol
Thanks a lot bro I can clearly notice the difference with this build
Would you recommend spending souls on refreshing those tower attempts which gives talent points to progress faster?
Naah
So just keep accumulating them for some better packs to appear if there's any special event?
Aniversary is in April
Nice
Guys what should I do with 53 talent points
Focus your talent points on the defense and support trees
No
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I see
Use the same for klash tower defense setup?
No
That's for day to day use
For towers defense just go all in on defense lmao it's meant to be as annoying to face as possible
Oh ok, thanks
I got one more question though if you aren't busy
Shoot
Ok
Tell us story about talent tree
jst use Scorpion and raiden
Op duo, I got lucky with mk 11 scorpion when I started
anyone got MK 11 scorpion perfect talent tree?
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Where
My talent tree is glitched, I hadn’t played the game for years and had to recover my account through their support team. Due to that the talent tree won’t let me unlock past the first column. I asked support for help and they said they can’t do anything for this. Any thoughts?
Are you putting points on the progress bar below?
best tree for krypt ?
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Can someone help me with a tree for durability, higher damage and DoT?
Chat is this fire 🔥?

How?
the limit is 100 right? The tower reset for me today
You can get more for some reason but can't use them
Ah :/
I was hoping I'll be able to get that kameo cooldown one with ender combos also until I realised today the limit to those is 100 😂
Definitely don't wanna lose the death mark one for it anyways
102 technically
This is the talent tree I've been using for a year now; should I change it? I'm also unsure whether to use brutalities once I have one equipped on each member of my main team
Should i use Talent Tree or fight for Grass Freedom
Fight for grass cause
For Freedom bet!
Ye
copy the talent tree pinned
Copy the pinned one
What's next?
Weak point attacks
and then?
how about the 2?
I mean just copy the pinned one
As the pin says, if you only have 100 points, you take 2 points off warlock spell
where should i add it? combat veteran or +add?
alright
I can't see pinned
Kkk thanks
Does this tree apply to klash towers too?
If you mean for the one you build then no, you should try prioritising defence for your tower
Anyone knows if it's still possible to get additional talent points from Shao tower? Someone a year said it works but I just completed a re-run and got nothing
Nope
I got 106th some time ago
Follow the pinned one
Mantis is better than Lion and Tiger?
No
How do I unlock the next ones that are locked ?
Keep playing Shao tower for more points, you can unlock the next tier by adding points at the bottom left corner that says ‘add’
Okay
What is the best talent tree for kript kaotic. This is my main team
Follow pinned in #🌲-talent-tree
Wow my boss has done it
Bruh just copy the pinned one
No I picked these because power generation
And damage boost for sp1 and sp2 a lot of players use these
And that's kind of the point to learn to be better at the game
I've read them btw lol 😂
And 20 percent debuff resistance what else would you even choose 💀
Who doesn't choose hawk stance
You think I'm tryna die from dot 😂
Or suffer from enemy status effect so what if I copied the formula is good that's why it's pinned
I did you said I copied so any of the talents are relevant.
What
I said to just copy the pinned one
Because the pinned one has a better support tree
Forget it I don't want to dig myself any deeper now I feel bad hmmm :^)
But I like my talents the way they all
I thought you said I copied it
But you were telling me to copy it
Texts are confusing
We both have the neon ring
No way I remember you now you're the raiden person 😂
How could I forget blushing Raiden
Heart blushes
Try the pinned talents and check out the difference
Okay I will 😊
I want to improve and learn
Farm Souls
I'm trying to run this guy's talent tree: https://www.reddit.com/r/mkxmobile/comments/1huor5i/optimal_talent_tree_for_towerskrypt/?sort=new
I have the 102 talent points but I end up with only 1 point to put into Centered. Any idea what's wrong?
Nvm I figured it out. I was putting 5 points to progress the tier instead of just 1.
Is this good or a$$
follow pinned one
Ok 👌
Only use hawk stance from the defensive section
Ok so attack more then defensive section
Yes, and complete shao kahn tower asap
Alright thx
is it important to have the ability tree full? i just played like 3 times the shao kan tower
does the tree actually helps in all modes?
Yes
Double yes
Tripple yes
💯
Yo
Where should i put my tokens?
I have 10 more, i already put 5 on lion stance
Don't laugh please I'm new
.
Tap on top of 🌲-talent-tree#
Then click on pins
Nvm
Here
This is what you have to copy
@slim basalt here
Whats the best talents like rn
Pinned
is this the best build?
Yes
Does this talent for mini-games work for auto-battle?
shao tower now gives more talent points? I have 101 for ages and now I got 102 and can get one more
Still can't use more than 102
Did the update start to give out talent points for each fight again, even after maxing the tower before?
Yeah I got 105 talent points after this update but I can only use 102
I got my 109th point and towers still dropping more 
Guys which next offense talent should i unlock next?
Copy pinned
Whats the max points I can use before my game goes out of sync
102
reset your talent points in the menu and itll set you to 102
if your over
I need the best talent tree
pins
Is there a consensus on a best build for Realm Klash?
best build for what in realm klash
same question
I won't be nuked for having 112 point right?
No
Can I increase my points above 102?
No
You can but you won't be able to use more than 102
What will I gain if؟
You just get a useless no of talent points
Any tutorial which talent tree should i upgrade?
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Where?
^
Which card should i change for liu kang
They don't have blind
The modifier you can just block
Also if you're gonna use mk11s use a full mk11 team
Also how to choose equipment filter it for individual character? Or how im just randoming choosing equipment which is higher rated
use bb if u have im pretty sure
put some TOT gears that u have
Can u explain this bb and tot to me? Im confused
Bb = Block breaker, tot = tower of time
Next time ask in #🏯-towers-relic-hunt
is this the best talent tree in general? for both realm klash towers and survival "towers"?
Yes
is revenant/bone shield not worth it anymore??
Some people say who uses revenant in 2026 but if it saves you it saves you
Theres way better choices but if you only have that to work with
You have to work with what you got
i havent gotten it yet i still am a beginner but i mean for example having my main damage dealer saved by them is much better imo i havent taken a look on the others im js tryna understand why people dont use it
People don't use it because theres alot of better options
do u recommend using it as a beginner?
Im new and im using a dot talent tree for scorpion mk11
Bro i wanted talent tree for sp1 and support
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Look up on youtube, there are many talent trees for different scenerios, just like different team combos , for example im using a dot talent tree for mk11 scorpion
revisa que le hiciste el update al juego
que esté actualizado
mods i need to be promoted im over here helping your spanish community
give me like 1 billion dk and we’ll call it even
@supple gust bro desde hace 3 dias no me deja jugar
Whats the best talent tree for chaotic crypt
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pero revisa que esté actualizado, si no borra el juego y bájalo de nuevo
déjame saber si funciona después de eso
Can someone help me with a talent tree? I mainly use mk11 scorpion, sindel, and sub zero
Just upgrade those talents that suit your fighting styles and strategies ❤️
Check your DM’s
It’s okay I figured it out but thank you!
Hello am new on the mortal Kombat discord server
Ive been playing mk mobile since i was 9 years old
I love this game
Hola
Hola
Should I go for shinnok's teachings or shaolin last stand?
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Wait for the patch
What are the maximum number of talent points we can get? previously it were 100
102, always been 102
if you go to the link wb games menu and it says that you are already linked
if it says "linked wb account" and then your username under it then you're fine
and then you can press on it to check where it is located
for me it says my username is signed in on the wb games account section
Wait gimme a second
Where in the screen am i suppose to see that
you literally just press on it and check if it says your account name in the wb games section
if it’s at the bottom where wbplay is then you haven’t switched the account yet and you can press switch account to follow the steps
Wait is showing the username okay?
yes
you're not gonna get hacked off of just a username lmao
especially on profile name when people can have exactly the same username
Cause i see exactly what you see the only diffrent is that my profile is Harley queen not scorpion
ok then that's it
the profile comes from wbgames website
you can click account settings to be sent there and login if you want to change it
but that's it
Thank you i was scared of losing my data
@smoky sentinel I have 105, and we can get more from the saho kahn tower. Have you checked what's the max we can get
You can still only use 102
@smoky sentinel
What
Could i see a ss of what talents you upgrade in talents tree? @smoky sentinel
It's pinned
What's unclear about it
Well, I have 24 more and I can t use them
You tried adding more than 1 point
I don t understand, sorry
The bar below
To which the text box is pointing to
You tried to add more than the points that can go into it
1 and 3 makes 4
Then when you try to add 5 for a single slot....
You overspend
And it tells you you can't
Because there's only space left for 1 point
What I have to do then?
Add 1 point
It takes 5 points to unlock the next tier and you added 4 so far, as simple as
I don t understand….
How do I do that?
Dude you've done it for every other talent what is it you're struggling with
Just do what you've already done before
Tap on a talent and add a point to it
How do you have 49 points in defense and 38 in atk and don't know how to use talents now
The max usable is 102
Those extra 9 can't be used
Also i'd recommend just copying the pinned tree in this channel
So why u keep getting them from the tower?
Bug
Okay, thanks
If you refresh your tree you'll go down to the correct amount of points again
os there a new talent tree or jst a the old one
Copy pinned
is your ss the best talent tree?
Yes
Like the bestest ever ?
Do you want a tree or not?
No!
Black dragon-Erron black is my favorite diamond character
when i look at the talent tree i just feel tired idk y..ive been playing with just one talent tree for a year😄
setting it up feels like a lot of work lol
playing with 1 talent tree for a year
setting it up feels like a lot of work
what do you mean lol
Must be bug
Debetable but works good enough if you're casual and don't go into too much strategy
Got it
Best talent tree in 2026?
Pinned
Playing realm klash is the fastest way
You'll get 20 leveling cards after logging in for 6 day ig
Best talent tree?
The one in pinned
thanks
Latent reet
What is these for?
Used to resurrect shao kahn during relic hunt
When can i use this? Like in specific tower?
In relic hunt
When this event comes
how many for shao?
its coming next month on the 6th btw
the 6th of next month
@latent gazelle
What’s up
I always use auto clicker i sleep and make the characters level up if you iphone it hard but i will show you how
My Android device how use auto clicker which mode game play mkm app name
Text me back in 1 hour i will show you how i do it , i cant enter the game now
Or never mind i will show you now give me 5 minutes
Ok
I send it in private
Time
Huh?
Look at message
Please show me too bro
I send it to you👍🏼
Thanks
show me pls
nice team
Thanks
milleena is busted if she has a good female heavy dmg dealer paired with her which we all know klassic sonya is
U need kl skarlet with her then all is settled
agreed
I want one card of sonya so bad
It will be first fusion x to me
Wait for the challenge to come back
I hope it will arrive in shop also to buy with realm coins or with souls
Black dragon
hi
Hello, fairly new to the game haven’t touched the talent tree looking for advice on what’s best to use ?
alr ty
@smoky sentinel sorry for ping but can i get the standard tree i forgot
It’s pinned here
thank you!
whats the best talent tree for homelander?
Copy pinned
alr ty
what is this for
Every thing it’s my go too tree krypt most of the time
With out Centurian I switch it to special ending
Or DM technique
I have centurian on probably because I was doing RK towers and I forgot to switch it back
You think it’s weird right @upper pilot
little bit yea lol
I mean no special ending/DM, no free special chance, no WPA...
it looks like its trying to be too broad
I switch the stuff at the end most of the time by taking 10 points from defence page
especially since I maxed puff, WPA is a permenant addition
the synergy is just way to broken to drop
Easy to adjust
What is WPA ?
Oh
yeah its insane lol
That’s a luxury I can’t offer
well youd def have to drop some things
but you can lose alot from your offense tree and be ok
like you dont need 5/5 tiger lol
or thunderous imo
When was the tower last here DQT ?
Oh that’s good if you don’t know that’s means it’s probably coming back soon
Long a go I guess
🤞
The only one I have left in my list
for your sake hope its soon
Man getting 2 of the enemy on v200 with out buff is literally crazy hard
@craggy dragon this is my go to universal build
wym
When I was trying to beat v200 without tower gears
I lost my mind
Because I need speed and power drain and I have to sacrifice 2 gear slots for it
Every time I try I say I wish I have puff
ahhh yes
Try one time after other
I just need that f term to not get HL buff
should I do a 200 where I ban puff from myself? lol
Try it
It’s really difficult
Its like habit every time I reach v200 I give it a shot like 10-20 attempt
anything else I should ban
like stuff you wanna use but dont have maxed or something
I think I am at 150 something
Yo what
I didn’t realize you were in this server
I hang around a little
Guys can anyone tell me what is the best talents I'm 60 level but I'm still new in the game i have like almost 2 month's and I'm still leaning about these
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Okk ty
Why don't I have a Shukan event?
Do you have him fx?
Yeah why don't you have shikhan event?
shukan
What is the best thing to upgrade in talent tree?
precision
revenent
Horse stance
So to advance in tiers on the talent tree i have to spend 5 and to get that atribute i have to spend 1 per?
Yes
But that doesn t go 100 right?
Yes
@smoky sentinel if u can delete messanges can u delete this scam?
How did you got so much talent coins
Shao tower gives you one each floor until you beat it
Ohh yeah thanks
or this one but it's 102 points
for 100 points take 2 out of boar
thx
I usually use a specific tree for Khaotic and one for bosses (with Khaotic going deep in the health tree to get the dot reduction). Looking over this one it looks a lot like my boss tree (except I use special end)
However I was wondering for the first talent is that much better than the blocked attacks doing more dmg or toughness reduction? I’m not entirely sure on how toughness functions but a couple % increase on basic attacks that land seems like it would do a lot less than roughly 10% increased dmg on attacks that are blocked (especially since my rockin stones is only f7 and I don’t have all the gear to run block breaker every time in large amounts)
Any info on why the choice of the 1st talent surpasses the others (especially in the context of boss battles) would be much appreciated so I can define my boss tree. Thank you
You don’t need anything from the defense tree as a player except for hawk and intimidating presence if you want
Just copy the tree in pinned
Ok sounds good, thanks!
Can someone show me a good talent tree for a maxed out account one for Towers and one for Krept
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Guys, I have a total of 128 talent points and I keep gaining more. I'm already on my third climb of Shao Kahn's tower. Will using more than the limit cause problems?
You can’t use more than the limit: when you try it’ll say “you’ve hit the max bumber”.
If for some reason it allows you then you’ve found a bug, and you can either just keep using it or switch back to 102 if you’re worried about them thinking you’re hacking
I personally would switch back to 102 since the risk of being banned is not worth any marginal stat increase
There was a time I was refreshing shao tower attempts to try to get to floor 100 again since they were only giving points in the 100th floor for subsequent runs, but they changed that/made it so you can’t use it which was absolutely obnoxious because I wasted those souls.
It would’ve been fine to allow 1 talent point per 100 runs since they’re limited by day and when I did the math it was something like a month and a half - 2 months just for 1 point. It would’ve taken over a year to get one more talent maxed and move to the next but of course that way of keeping people engaged is squashed
@hexed meadow not saying u should follow my advice, but here is my talents
I'm a beginner, so I'm still learning
(I just upgraded it so I regenerate 1,750+ I think now)
Copy pinned, can't use more than 102 anyway, the game just doesn't let you
I dont mean to make this sound mean but read the text man lol
its universal, you dont need to specialize your talent tree. 102 is enough to get alot of things
theres basically 2 main builds which is offense and support for WPA, or offense and defense for revenant/bone shield
thats been patched
it just doesnt let you spend em now
ok so WPA is weak point attacks it gives a chance to snare when you power drain
snare is one of the most important debuffs in the game
offense basically no matter what build you play you use the offense tree its just to good
and then defense is you have to go the whole way down the tree and max revenant and bone shield. I dont like this build because both of those talents are unreliable
sadly not, burn doesnt count as power drain
WPA is very good with johnnys or inj2 raiden or any gear that can power drain
like a popular gear of varmints lucky hat can proc it
Yo im a beginner and I’m honestly not sure if these are good I just want some that are good in general
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Okay thank you
Is this the best tree rn?
Yes
Anyone can help me set up my talents?
What is this?
Copy pinned
Yes
For klash towers you set a defense-based tree since it's other players that have to face it
Still the same
Ofc am talking about when you're setting up the defensive tower
Yourself you use the same tree for everything
I’ve been using the pinned tree with a couple tweaks and it’s great, thanks!
Only time I run something different is special ending on boss fights with 3 enemies or if I’m doing Khaotic krypt I’ll take revenant + the dot reduction: I know it’s not ideal but it makes it so I don’t have to suffer through arctic wind (but now that my malice is fx it’s not really an issue and I find myself doing it less and less)
Yo anyone got a good survivability skill tree need very much thx Trying to defeat the spec op team on tower lvl 170 it’s annoying
Check in pinned
Talent tree for FWLT 184?
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yes
How so
because its focusing on alot of bad talents
also you should never do support tree first
with only 48 points your priority should be somewhere else
Where would be good
With recovery I feel like I can heal good and spam specials
On my main i use offense tree mostly
first get the debuff resist in defence next go for precision in the offence then work your way to weak point attacks in support then go for death mark tactics
You have reached the top of the Talent tree channel
Teamwork
Shinnok's Teachings
Revenant
Bear Stance
O.I.A
Precision
@narrow sparrow it is not funny. Let Will work peacefully please.
You receive 102 talent points after completion of Shao Kahn Tower
sorry
Now Shao Kahn Tower gives one point per battle, total is 100, not 102 anymore.
Guidelines: This channel is to discuss anything related to Talent Tree, mainly strategies and asking help about it.
For Talent Tree showcases, #🗡-kollection is a fine place to go.
can we pin the shao khan tower from #🌐-player-guides ?
See the Pinned Messages on #🌐-player-guides for a complete guide about Talent Tree and a Recommended Talent Tree Path.
Centurion
Centurion defense or shokan ?🤔
@dapper igloo centurion if u like the idea of a chance to active
Shokan if u like the idea of always active and find urself blocking enemies sp frequently
Centurion is one of the best in Defense Talent Tree
I did maxed centurion before. But i find it so rare to activate till i tho unupgraded shokan would be better and allocate the talent point to another good talent
And yea, that's just imo
Centurion defence only works agains Unblockable attack such as Klassic scorpion sp1, MK11 sub0 sp2, Kabal sp2 and all xray/fatal blow attack. If your enemy is dealing too many of sp of these type the talent will work. and you dont even have to hold block as far as i know
What’s the max for centaurian, 20% chance?
Yes
Centurion defence only works agains Unblockable attack such as Klassic scorpion sp1, MK11 sub0 sp2, Kabal sp2 and all xray/fatal blow attack. If your enemy is dealing too many of sp of these type the talent will work. and you dont even have to hold block as far as i know
@bronze merlin i thought Unblockable Attacks are all attacks that are unblocked such as Basic, SPs. Because the damage from the opponents is reflected back to them. It doesn’t have to be the Xray/Fatal blow and such, as they cannot be blocked.
i haven't noticed any basic attack reflect..maybe they have reflected but i just didn't notice yet. but it is possible. but it did say unblockable not unblocked. 🤷♂️
unblocked basics from equipments like Bladed Fan, Revolvers and Chainsaw can be reflected
so blockbreaker attacks
Specials from Cassie's unblockable and Moloch's Ball and Chain too
any type of attack that is blockbreaker is considered unblockable than
yes, even attacks that are chained from unblockable attack
like Hellspawn Scorpion's SP2's later hits can be reflected even if the first hit wasn't
then it should just rename to unblocked attack...rather than unblockable
Even you have unblockable chance on basic attacks, it's also count on special attacks
then it should just rename to unblocked attack...rather than unblockable
@bronze merlin that could cause some confusion that some people might get that as any open attacks, which is not
well that is true..
I think that 20% chance on Centurion Defense is not good enough. It’s just luck if you reflect the damage and so it doesn’t often work when you really need it. I prefer a sure chance to reduce damage by 20% on a blocked SP attack. Specially if your opponent has bone shield or revenant shield and the only thing you can do is do block for 5 seconds.
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No Shokan Defense is sure if you block.
20% less damage.
On SP attacks.
Centurion is 20% chance. So just luck.
Enemy Kabal tags in and do fatal blow
My Centurian Defense: im sleep
My Kabal tags in and do fatal blow
Enemys Centurian Defense: im about the end this man whole career
my centurian defense worked against boss kabal on tower 180 and 200 as they were the only 2 boss that managed xray on me so it works for me🤷♂️
I guess you were lucky because it doesn’t always work. 20% chance is once every 5 times. Just because it worked 2 times for you does not mean it will always work. Statistics are on large set of events. Not on once or twice but many times.
If it always worked than X-Ray attacks would be useless as everybody would have that defense.
I tried it as a talent but in the end I settled for Shokan defense. More effective and useful more times.
To tactic to win boss battles, is you must not let them attack you. Otherwise they often do X-Ray attacks that Centurion defense can block once if you are lucky, very rarely twice but in the end they will hit you killing you or anyway making you lose precious time I hope you do@fathom juncot have in boss battles.
Sorry for mistyping. I meant precious time that you do not have in boss battles. That is why the most effective characters are that fast ones. They can do combo Enders followed by SP attacks consecutively so bosses do not have time to block or counter attack.
U guys are really fun🤟
Agree with @topaz flower, I prefer a reliable defense rather than one with a 20% chance of kicking in. It can be a game changer when it does, though, so it might be a good choice if you’re stuck on a tower level.
when someone has weaker character this will be a game changing moment as when boss do xray on towers and the centurian defense activates. that is more than a days worth of attack for some player. while shokan dominance is respectable if opponent dont use block breaker equipment/character/sp. which in the higher fused character mostly has equipped. on rare occasion there is player who dont use some sort of block breaker in high fused character.
also shokan dominance only activates while blocked. most opponent dont use sp unless they have use basic attack which in most case is block breaker. so unless opponent decide to use sp right after tagin with out block breaking shokan dominance will not work. while centaurian defense will have a chance to activate and reflect the full damage it dealt with block breaking attack.
also in boss fights with BD kabal with BD team. only handful of character with longer sp/ character defeat animation are able to block kabals tagin xray. so unless someone use those characters the shokan dominance wont work. ultimately failing the shokan dominance tree. I would rather take my chance and deal 2 attack worth of damage than lose character because of unblockable free xray.
@bronze merlin like I said, it will be a game changer in some situations, but I prefer the reliable option. And the AI often does blockable sp’s, equipment or not.
@dapper igloo if you want to make an actual argument, feel free to do so.
@dapper igloo charming.
well i agree with blockable sp as they are also as common as unblockable one for me.
but with all the block breaker gear i would rather take my chances. not saying shokan dominance is not good. its good for certain situation as is centaurian defense.
@bronze merlin yeah. centaurian certainly is the most annoying when you’re at the wrong end of it and it does kick in.
@topaz flower learn how the statistics work before you speak 🤦
@dapper igloo As I should learn how statistics work, like you very politely told me, could you who knows them so well explain them to me.
So why are you telling me to learn how statistics work?
Maybe you should or you could explain me what I said wrong.
Ok. No problem. Thank you for your apologizes. I appreciate them because frankly I think we should all be friends. We should share our opinions and suggestions. They can differ but not for that should we become enemies.
We can learn from each other and I will change my talent tree again to see if Centurion Defense is indeed better.
In a few days I will let you know my experiences and which in the end suited me better. Maybe it depends on your playing style or character roster. Anyway I will share my experiences b
if you need help with talent tree go to #🌐-player-guides 2nd pinned messages
Hey guys there is a taleent where i die it make ice decoy so what its name
its sub0 passive if im correct
It's equipment or passive
its mk11 sub0 passive
and also equipment
@late kelp so do you know name of equipment
@eternal walrus if from lin kuei tower
@late kelp oh i think I am lucky i didnt participate then
If i can recall. Its Lin Kuei's Frost Orb
What should i focus on defense attack or support
^ personal references. But imo = specific defense talents
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Happy to help
Yes sir
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What are the spirit fragments for?
@white echo to resurrect shao Kahn when relic hunt event comes.
Thanks
Hey, i wanted to try this talent but i see no difference in mi SP1, how can i know if it is working?
15% is very subtle. Reset your talent tree, try SP1 and then spend points on that talent again.
the only way to see difference is to have equipment with sp1 reduced powercost similar to shang tsung stone
the only way to see difference is to have equipment with sp1 reduced powercost similar to shang tsung stone
@bronze merlin
I have vudu fx but i see no difference
i have that talent on 9% and it helps me on some character but not all character. and with teamwork talent using sp1 even with those reduced power cost count as 1 bar power. so its helpful i guess
@bronze merlin
I have vudu fx but i see no difference
@wide patrol from my research, i found that sp red cost from talent and equipment doesnt stack together. So it just pick the highest value
Also afaik, teamwork talent only work for the actual power spent. For example it doesnt work with free sp1 or sp2. 10% from 100% is 10%. I think it's just too subtle to see the different from 10% of 91% which is 9,1% and 10%
Yo
What kind of talent tree can be good for
F0 mk11 scorpion
F0 mk11 kabal
F1 mk11 subzero
Scorpion stare
How get talent coins after first round
Cant
Then how people maxed all sections 100 battles not give you 100 so , need more than hundred master all
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Yea but I have 102
They have already reduced it to 100. I have 100 point.
My friend who started about 4-5 month before me had 102. So between that time and me starting the 2 point was removed.
Hello how are you people?
I am new here 😇
You can only get points first time finish tower
Ok
Thanks
I was thinking to write wb games about this
Talent point are less as compare to talent tree
Yes, maxing every talent would make game easier
I got another point just now
You get 100 and 2nd time I completed Shao Kahn tower I got another so I have 101
Idk if I reset talent it will go back to 100
That should all add up to 101 and I think you could still get the 102
Wait what? Is the talent point completely random or something? How did you get the 1 point?
There seems to be a bug in Shao Kahn's tower
After completing it first time, it should not offer any more points
But in battle 100 it still offers one point
Yeah battle 100 gives you 1 point again after completing it
In this case I finished the tower a second time to get the point
Oh wait really??
Which talent should i max out
Teamwork
Revenant and shinnok's teachings are a must. I learned this in the hard way.
How to use talents?
Play Shao kahn tower to get talent point then spend it on talent tab
@dapper igloo look at #🌐-player-guides, second pinned message
Revenant and shinnok's teachings are a must. I learned this in the hard way.
@lilac gull at least when you’re pushing your boundries on towers and desperately need lucky breaks. Not necessarily in FW.
Can I see all of y’all talents I just need some suggestions if I think about changing it again
To all players using revenant and shinnok’s ... I suffers meeting you
I don't like it, but everybody using it, so I have to use it too, or else I lose
@dapper igloo I literally wrote how to see the guide before you posted
Please read, people!
Yes, it was a massive ping and the bot deleted it
Ouch
If you are asking "who ping me?"
Someone pinged everyone
I don't like it, but everybody using it, so I have to use it too, or else I lose
@lilac gull it’s a requirement to have those two and teamwork 😂
Without them, some fights will be too short. I think that's why they added those
My hawk stance be like 20% never activated on DoTs from enemies
When I plays Klassic Liu Kang and want to lit myself on fire for regen...it activates twice in a row
How can i skill my Talent tree with a good beginner skill?
Changing your language
I' m from Germany und play the Game on German ;-)
Anyone tested unbridled savagery and can give some Info about how it actually work? Like list of things that it actually work for?
I'm curious cuz centurion defense which is reflect unblockable attack aside of grapple and x-ray do reflect block breaker basic attack and combo ender damage as well
i didnt use it but the looks of it means probably 10% damage boost on all the attacks that are unblockable including block breaking basic to grapple sp and xray.
(saying this as the description is similar to centaurian defense)
@abstract wind on Unbridled Savagery, you can see its effect when you use Gunslinger Erron Black's SP2. its first hit is slightly higher than the rest
will it also work on shirai ryu takeda? his sp2 is also block breaker unblockable.
maybe. the instances I noticed are just the first hit that breaks the block gets damage boost
Ah, so that's how it works, so it isn't boosting the next damage that following first block break
so in the end its mostly a xray damage boosting talent as doing slightly more damage on sp first hit wont matter much.
Then, basically it's just good for 1hit grapple sp and x-ray
judging by the way Centaurian Defense works, it should count the hits that are connected from unblocked attacks
That's what I was thinking
maybe the same issue with MK11 Skarlet's passive not working like others
same description, different way of working
Guess imma do some testing to make sure about this one later
Thanks for the insight @hardy girder
Support talent tree has power gen talents. Teamwork talent is one of the better for powergen.
Can anyone explain me what is talent tree how to use
see pins in #🌐-player-guides
Lmao
And does it useful for everything or it's just for towers like show Khan and bd
its for every game mode.
yes
Oh that s good thx bro
https://youtu.be/XdUxxHIf7zk
A useful guide I created for all of you
https://youtu.be/XdUxxHIf7zk
A useful guide I created for all of you
@exotic mason To each his own but I disagree with a big chunk of your guide
Why? @warm veldt
Some of the talents you went for aren’t useful imo
For instance?
The defense that you went with
Bone shield is always a must imo unless you’re trying to to fit specifically the assassin or Jason
Also it’s so easy to get the SP1 I feel like you’re wasting valuable points on the power usage cost
It's a guide for beginners
More advanced players will find more useful the next video focused on SP2
Besides I don't agree with spending more valuable points in defense
Also weak points is really more gimic then anything
It’s for people who focus on power draining and snaring
My only issue is you have to waste points in the previous to get it
Those two previous to it have nothing valuable for weak points but i agree it is useful for tower
You have to waste points you like it or not if you want to get to the final talents, like teamwork
Hence I’d rather the unblock able attack counter to have a chance to prevent an X-ray which I have been saved by before
Those two previous to it have nothing valuable for weak points but i agree it is useful for tower
@warm veldt You mean Meditation? It's basic for SP1
Hence I’d rather the unblock able attack counter to have a chance to prevent an X-ray which I have been saved by before
@warm veldt too specific for my, it's a last minute help
*me
You have to waste points you like it or not if you want to get to the final talents, like teamwork
@exotic mason teamwork is a must I agree, meditation and Mileena a hunger are really not worth using up the points
Yes, they are in my opinion, and Mileena hunger I only assigned her one point
Yeah but my point is you still have to place 6 points into it to get to the others. Also meditation goes against teamwork since that’s less power for you inactive team
The idea is to spam and hit hard with SP1
Beginners don't have equipment to perform SP2 easily
They need to hit ASAP when possible
Spec ops tactic might work better in that case to spam out the SP1. I usually spam sp1 to get the Xrays
And meditation would not help with that.
It's a good suggestion, but I prefer less cost on SP1
Rather than increased generation on tag in
Then again I usually have bloody voodoo doll. Spec ops tactics would replace team work in that case.
Guess I didn’t disagree with a big chunk of your guide. It’s a matter of taste but I feel like the focusing on defense is what is most useful unless you’re setting up your talent points to fit a specific team
I’ve probably spend 100s of souls trying to find a good talent tree set up as well 😂
I've tested this setup with the teams I mention in the video and it works well for me
I don't like very much FW equipment, I tend to use the special equipment of each character and tower equipment
Yeah the tower equipment that’s been coming out is really good. However the special equipment sometimes doesn’t work for me cuz it doesn’t work well with some characters. Example Johnny cage doesn’t need half SP2 cost usage cuz his best tool is his SP1
Yes, although I use JC equipment because of the boost on basics. If not, Smuggler's Luck suits perfect with him
Smugglers luck, Devastator, and Cybernetic heart
Do you have them all fX?
Only Devastator
At FX?
Indeed
Nice
Yes, extremely powerful equipment
Even without FX they are powerful
Teamwork
Did anyone tried shaolin's last stand is it good. Bcus I see majority to choose shinnok's teachings..
Bone shield can sort of apply as revenant if they use a sp attack that dosent kill like scorpion sp1
Rare to happen I guess
So if they apply x ray or extreme damage could it save me?
Only revenant can from x ray @nocturne barn
And centurion defense
Only sp attacks that won’t kill you can be sort of like a revenant
Okay thanks 
Lol attack is a waste. Just do support and defense
Yeah Rapid Response and Precision is all you need from attack
I wouldn’t even waste more points then that on attack tree honestly but if you really want more critical hits then Lui Kang Instruction
Lol what do ur critical hit wanna do against boss battles
Yea but just little. It could be cool tho
Only revenant can from x ray @nocturne barn
@vocal crystal bone shield can aswell if the xrays begins with bone shield on
Yeah
Bone shield most likely occurs after you done a sp though
Unless it was a tag team type
Is offensive or defensive better?
I tried them both and I think defense is better
That shield at the end of a players life saved me from losing a match a bunch of times
Both
Well u can’t max both
Ya almost can
That’s if you don’t focus on support however that is most likely needed
The most important talent in offense is just precision (2nd tier). Aside of that is just a matter of individual preference
Death mark@dapper igloo
Can l ask you one guestion?
What's talant tree do you upgrade?
And?
Dude you must upgrade defense and support
Only it,no attack
But with support you will get X-rays faster and special attacks
You must reset talnt
Defense
Lol just get to precision or thunderous blow,if u want attack that much, then do defense and support
The same as the most important talent in offense is the 2nd tier which is precision
Support talent do had one of the most important talent too, which is in 2nd tier too, the name is teamwork
What the hell... I reset my talent having 24 souls and it all gone then I got this
Then I restart the game and I only have 97 talent points
Ok it is in scorpion stare... I somehow mastered it before even start the tree
That’s the point Lmao
I could get max talents
Maybe a bug but restarting make it normal
Lol hmm is that so... Can I dm @lime pier
Yes
Max talent points is 102
I wish they’d raise the cap
I can sure use some points in offense
But first max your team work
Can someone show me their talent tree
@livid schooner here's mine. Idk if it's good tho
Anyone else because I am not sure what to help me if there is a new tower
U might need to change talent set for a few specific stage to pass tower with limited card
Like, focus on offense most of the time but still max centaurian, revenant and teamwork to give u more burst power that u need to pass a stage in tower
In another time, like facing strong enemy that require u to utilize snare or maybe if ur main team is including a power draining card then taking weak point attack is a must, hence less focus in offense
No support?
No
Max CTOHKA MEABEAR@proud loom
I don't need support. I think it's useless for the characters I play.
I could lose if I don't have support
If you max it, all your characters' health increases by 25%
Its one of the best talent
I got my T Tree set-up for weak point attacks.
Doing elder challenge with JC.
Stacked 5 SP1 with JC.
I didn’t get 1 snare.
The tree is all screwed up
Lol I think it 40% chance of getting snare... I once did 6 power drain too one time but I got no snare. The weak point attack works better for inj raiden imo... But it a good talent tho @sharp plover
How many times can bone shield and revenant appear / used in one fight ?
bone shield can be activated many times. Revenant, on the other hand, activates only once per character in battle
Damn
