🌲-talent-tree

[weak carbon]

Idk if I should do revenant and bone shield again

[reef python]

hawk is all u need in defense

[weak carbon]

Sometimes it's nice having the cushion tho

[reef python]

i only use them for survival, otherwise theyre better used in support

[late rivet]

how does brutal ending work

[reef python]

ur character that has a brut set on can brutalize any of the 3 characters when theyre in range, instead of only being able to brutalize the last one

also i think it increases ur brutality chance? not too sure on that

[late rivet]

but you need to still have the correct character

like i have termators set but i can't put that work sub0 and have it work

[reef python]

yeah they still need the set on the right character

[late rivet]

ok

[reef python]

yup

[late rivet]

Thank You

[reef python]

np

[smoky sentinel]

Nope

[reef python]

gotchu

[dapper igloo]

@tawdry edge yo can u send ur talent tree again plz

I have ur attack copied not the other ones I wanna see wt u had

[tawdry edge]

I have 6 talent tree set-ups

which one are you talking about

[dapper igloo]

Where u had lion stance maxed out

Man I forgot

And u only had hawk stance maxed out on the section

Full attack

U had death threat the last one

[midnight frost]

These?

[dapper igloo]

No

[midnight frost]

I'm sure it is

[dapper igloo]

@tawdry edge so have u found out

[frail flare]

anyone got a good survivor talent tree

[undone rain]

102 points what would be the best tree for most things

[reef python]

max out hawk in defense

[undone rain]

I'd assume good survivor tree would power gen, recovery boost, and rest in health/defense tree

[reef python]

max everything in offense except for the first one

[undone rain]

Especially bone shield

[reef python]

remaining goes to support

in survival i max out defense and max out mongoose

[smoky sentinel]

@undone rain

[undone rain]

Really no revenant or bone shield?

Wait those are the same

Bone shield and the other one

[reef python]

unless im doing survival

[smoky sentinel]

No need for them

[reef python]

nah revenant and bone shield r different

[undone rain]

Ah okay

[reef python]

normally hawk is all i use

u should prolly always have hawk maxed

[undone rain]

Is it still bugged? I was told even after update to only have 1 preset or it might reset

[reef python]

nah it got fixed

[undone rain]

Bet

Hawk stance > Boar?

[reef python]

yes

[undone rain]

May I ask why, is it the 20% to resist it or is it resistance?

[reef python]

20% to resist any debuff

its insane

includes power drain too

[undone rain]

Well obviously snare

[reef python]

sometimes resisting that 1 blind can save ur life

and yes, frostbite too

[undone rain]

Nice

Sounds good

[reef python]

also tower modifiers like arctic wind, inferno, stuff like that

[undone rain]

Hm sound good

Those help since I run MK11 jade team

Would this work for Towers too or should I look into something different

Since tower gear boosts health

[reef python]

always use hawk

whenever i readjust talents i leave hawk there

dont think there is much worth picking over it

[undone rain]

Okay

I also feel like no intimidating presence is a bad thing

[reef python]

intimidating presence is alright

[undone rain]

I run jade and kabal I don't need weak points

[reef python]

u can use it if u wanna, but i prefer my points elsewhere

[undone rain]

Intimidating presence is kinda OP idk what you mean about alright

20% reduction is insane

[reef python]

lol i just use sash

[undone rain]

I don't use it in towers so intimating makes sense

[reef python]

u can try it

[dapper igloo]

I got 77 talent tree points I need a good survival talent tree

[undone rain]

Same I need a survival tree but I got 102

[reef python]

id say invest most of it into defense and mongoose

[undone rain]

Rather I want to compare mine

In survival bear stance is for sure worth it right?,

[reef python]

i still prefer hawk, if u get blinded or something then ur kinda screwed

instead of health i prefer recovery

[undone rain]

Why not have both :D

[undone rain]

And if hawk doesn't proc then ur screwed anyway

At least bonus health is guaranteed

[reef python]

u can pick between hawk or bear in defense, recovery is in support

test some things out, up to u

[undone rain]

I have both bear and hawk so I'm chilling

[smoky sentinel]

Hawk is just better

Extra health doesn't do absolutely anything

Also you can't have both

[undone rain]

I mean bear and mongoose

[reef python]

i prefer hawk and mongoose but u can pick ur own

[undone rain]

We are talking about survival

[smoky sentinel]

Hawk is still better

[reef python]

tho i can see y some people prefer bear

[smoky sentinel]

Bear is a noob trap

[undone rain]

I feel like resisting dots wouldn't help me

[smoky sentinel]

It would

[reef python]

resisting fire can help quite a bit

[undone rain]

I run full MK11 team with jade so I heal from it

[smoky sentinel]

Also debuff resistance applies to ALL debuffs

Not only dots

[undone rain]

In survival MK11 scorpion is free regen

I know but DOTs are part of debuff

[smoky sentinel]

Doesn't matter

Jade's healing is nerfed in survivor anyway

Plus a single snare well placed can cost you a character

[undone rain]

I guess

[errant dock]

Anyone has scorp hyper carry talent tree?

[tawdry edge]

I've posted it somewhere here, try searching in the search bar "From: @tawdry edge has: image in: #🌲-talent-tree

[jade oak]

Any suggestions?

[west crest]

Shirai Ryu teachings

[dapper igloo]

I finally found it

[deep thunder]

Hello, does the talent tree work for you? for some reason I can't keep the settings and it resets itself

[reef python]

r u using 103 points or more?

[deep thunder]

exactly 103

[honest reef]

you can’t use more than 102

it will reset

[inner flower]

Hello does the black dragon training on talents section improve crit chance from %0 to %17 for all characters?

[rough kernel]

that is correct @inner flower

[inner flower]

Thxx

[ivory hedge]

I’ve completed the whole Shao Kahn’s tower and I only have 45 talent points after completing the whole thing. Anyone else ever experience this?

[mighty frost]

Objectively best talent tree I must see

A screenshot you must send

[jade oak]

Guys please suggest some talents for mk11 skor+ P Mileeena in the defense and support section

[smoky sentinel]

This one

[rough kernel]

just pin it man

[smoky sentinel]

@frank fern copy this

[frank fern]

Sorry forgot you have post certain things in places @smoky sentinel

[grim gyro]

@dapper igloo

[dapper igloo]

This for fatal bosses right? Thanks man

[grim gyro]

It’s based off of Draco’s talents, except I swapped brutal ending with death mark

[grim gyro]

Yes. You’re welcome bro

[honest reef]

i think spec ops tactics talent might work a bit better

i think of meter as an economy and that building it up to store for later is important

especially with this modifier

[grim gyro]

Ooh yea I’ll do that

[grim gyro]

@real copper

[late knot]

fun

[real copper]

@grim gyro please share your screenshot of offense and defense as well. Thanks!

[grim gyro]

Although I had one up more in the channel, I changed it up a few min ago so I’ll update the pics

[real copper]

Nvm i see it above 2 hours ago

Oh, ok

[grim gyro]

Well defense stayed similar

[real copper]

I'll wait for those

[real copper]

Cool. Thanks.

[rocky lance]

@late knot

[late knot]

amazeballs

[real copper]

@grim gyro I used your WPA tree and power drainer strategy on FTT 200 and it really helped. I completed the tower. Thank you.

[grim gyro]

GGs man! Glad to help

[inland star]

Is there a reason why my talents keep resetting

[rocky lance]

if you are using >102 talent points, it resets

[vital monolith]

Is there a best general talent tree

I looked at the pinned guide

But idk which to go for

[reef python]

dracos

[vital monolith]

I thought so except for the brutal ending

[reef python]

switch it

[vital monolith]

Why boar stance

[reef python]

shield break is an amazing debuff, and stun is a common debuff that has a lot of ways of being applied

[honest reef]

it’s a team shield break as well

[reef python]

^

[honest reef]

the entire team getting punished because their active fighter is being stunned is crazy

[reef python]

i slept on boar for quite a while

[honest reef]

ive had several matches where a full kw sonya team just exists, and my cos lk exists right back and breaks all their shields

[reef python]

wait shield break breaks ICE shield?

[honest reef]

yuh

[reef python]

:OOOOOOOOOOOO even better XD

[honest reef]

it also breaks the vengeful shinnok shield

but like

no one would ever let that happen

[reef python]

Hm is there any shield that cant be broken

[smoky sentinel]

Krimson shield

[honest reef]

yeah

still boggles my mind

[reef python]

maybe cuz kw skarlet is a new character?

[reef python]

it really baffles me how u know stuff like this

[honest reef]

also if you resist oni’s passive no text shows up on the screen

it should say power drain resisted or reverse but literally nothing shows up

[reef python]

yup, little something i noticed. thought oni was bugged or smth

[indigo sable]

Support tree ?

[vital monolith]

Can you explain why shield break is good?

What does it deal with

[rocky lance]

50% damage bonus, also breaks shields when opponent have shields from specific equipments

not sure if it was 30 or 50

[rocky lance]

yep

i use kl sonya to do that

[vital monolith]

Damn

I see why it’s good now lmao

Klassic Sonya Is better than I thought

[indigo sable]

Ye she’s pretty decent

[reef python]

top 5 golds lol

[thick jacinth]

Dude klassic Sonya and covert oops Cassie with block breaking gear are both top 10 golds in my opinion

[smoky sentinel]

Block breakers don't stack

[vital monolith]

Wait what?

So if I have CO Cassie and then have an equipment that boosts block breaking, they don’t stack?

[honest reef]

they don't stack but they have individual chances of block breaking

yes technically you can have more block breaking percentage but I wouldn't recommend doing it unless you don't trust 25%

[true field]

Does talent tree matter much in towers

[reef python]

a proper tree can help u win a game

definitely matters a lot

[errant dock]

Definitely

[true field]

Whats the best

[reef python]

use dracos

[true field]

Screenshot?

[west crest]

This one

[dapper igloo]

Would it be good if I went half o half d on talent tree

And then max out horse stance for support

[reef python]

hawk is the only defense u need

[ripe bough]

@reef python this one?

[reef python]

^

[reef python]

here ^

[neat coral]

Latest tree of draco?

[reef python]

2 messages up

[neat coral]

Alr thx

[reef python]

np

[weak carbon]

Stupid question but is there any talent that drains power sp1?

im not sure since im using mk11 scorp but no power drain equiment

[honest reef]

power drains on sp1? no

if you have the uncommon piece decoy invitation, you have a chance of power draining on sp1

[weak carbon]

spo weak point attacks are useless then

[weak carbon]

i know

[honest reef]

nah you can use decoy invitation + weak point attacks

[weak carbon]

but i have better tower eq

[honest reef]

it might be better in stats but decoy has a lot more utility

[weak carbon]

if need be probably i will

[honest reef]

if you have it fx then it’s extremely useful on scorp

[weak carbon]

alright switched thanks for the help

[honest reef]

yeah

[rough kernel]

it's not, I beat sindel with decoy + WPA

sure it's chance but scorp inf chains anyway

[honest reef]

this why we gotta have a free fx infernal chains giveaway

[rough kernel]

real

[lone forum]

Haven't touched this yet what's the best routes to go?

[indigo sable]

Guys

[crystal breach]

My talent is going to be rest every time what happened?

[tawdry edge]

@rugged nacelle

Hope this is good enough for f200, I don't wanna use revenant cuz that would mean they'll heal more

[rugged nacelle]

No wpa? 🤣

@tawdry edge

[tawdry edge]

Oh crapppp

[rugged nacelle]

You forgot the most important talent lmao

[tawdry edge]

LMAO bruh brb

my brain shut off

[rugged nacelle]

Remove from sholan dominance, lion stance, link kuei turtorage, lightning bolt, deathmark

Make them all 1 star then use talents all the way to max wpa

If you have more points left, prioritize lion stance and deathmark

[tawdry edge]

@rugged nacelle can't even get to deathmark

wait I don't need stun resistance tbh if im gonna have immunity to stun on my nw

[rugged nacelle]

You don't need deathmark

[rugged nacelle]

Take out 4 from spec ops and 1 from precision. 5 extra points

Shirai ryu teachings maxed out is a must

[tawdry edge]

precision is important af for chaining

[rugged nacelle]

4 is enough for scorpion

[tawdry edge]

ill just get rid of spec ops tactics

here wait

[rugged nacelle]

Are you sure you're immune to stun? 20% resistance is enough?

[tawdry edge]

spec ops tactics was left over talents

[tawdry edge]

the two uncommon gears

remember?

stone and gladiator

• varmint's hat

[rugged nacelle]

Stone is an accessory

[tawdry edge]

i'll get her to use up all her stuns on nw

[rugged nacelle]

What about nw's rare that can inflict snare and make it last longer?

There are 2 ways. See which one fits you best

[tawdry edge]

I just need her to be snared until I can get my scorpion in

[rugged nacelle]

His legacy plus maxed out red dragon training or this tree without his legacy rare

[tawdry edge]

varmint's hat will do

trust

i dont have his legacy maxed

[rugged nacelle]

Go for it bro. Fingers crossed

[tawdry edge]

i got one fusion today too lol

[rugged nacelle]

No need. He can still snare. If this one fails, try his legacy. You can clear this tower + 2 more times

[tawdry edge]

welp, I thought i sent it in order

[rugged nacelle]

Give hammer to noob and use sp1 before dying. Free deathmark

And his rare to make deathmark last longer

[tawdry edge]

does it need to be fx

[rugged nacelle]

Nope. It's his own effect

[tawdry edge]

6s longer, not bad

ok

got it

[rugged nacelle]

Yep. Better than nothing 😂

[tawdry edge]

today I only have 1 try

assuming I beat everything from 186 - 200 in 1 shot

which i prolly will cuz all the others leading up was 1 shot

[rugged nacelle]

You also have tomorrow. Just make sure you don't lose around 30 times lol

[tawdry edge]

lmao nah

even with the crappiest strat, I still won in 7-8 tries last run

4 tries went in the water with no progress

[rugged nacelle]

This will do

[tawdry edge]

but then joker's gonna be the 2nd issue lol

i'm gonna do my usual chaining on joker with noob/silver kung jin

if that doesn't work, then i'll have to use aftershock tremor + mk11 scorp, tag in and out with them, shield loop + kitana's weakest link

blake are you gonna be online during the next refresh?

in 2 hrs

[tawdry edge]

@late knot

nw = removes 3 stuns and snares with wpa varmint's hat
noob = dies along with nw when she has no more stuns and then scorp ez win

[late knot]

GAME

[late knot]

ye the funny thing is sindel only used one stun passive on my sf scorp with full stun resistance after that she tweakin

idk why but she just wont stun me

irony

[tawdry edge]

Hmmmmm

[lofty fractal]

Now the Talent Tree can only use 102 points and the remaining points are completely invalid

[honest reef]

by now you mean about for a year

[shut brook]

102 was supposed to be the max for some time

[crystal breach]

I can’t set talent why ? Any help

[true field]

is there a maximum talent points you can have?

[west crest]

100

Maybe can be 101

[smoky sentinel]

102

[stuck stone]

I am beginner and have 29 points where to put it

Online guide kind of for full talent tree

[smoky sentinel]

Pinned guide

[coral stratus]

Should i do this?

[tawdry edge]

No, this is for f200

[coral stratus]

What is f200

Fatal 200?

What is the best talent tree

I dont have diamonds

[smoky sentinel]

@coral stratus copy this

[west crest]

why do you use boar?

[smoky sentinel]

Team shield break on stun

It's fun

[west crest]

I haven't tried it yet, but it sounds cool

I still use mongoose

[honest reef]

boar stance is what I call the best situational talent

you can unlock it right away and the effects of it help out so much

stun and shieldbreaking the opponent means they are left defenseless and take more damage, as long with the entire opponent team

[spare sonnet]

Can anyone share a good talent tree preset for faction wars?

[reef python]

use dracos

[spare sonnet]

Where do I find that?

[reef python]

i gotchu

@spare sonnet

id also recommend mongoose stance for the recovery

[spare sonnet]

I don't have all of the points, should I go lower on recovery or offense

[reef python]

prioritize offense and hawk

hawk matters the most imo

hawk>offense>support

[spare sonnet]

Did as much as I could, thanks

[west crest]

@patent garden

[patent garden]

I did them thanks

[thick obsidian]

Support tree is only good for weak point attacks imo

[indigo sable]

Anyone help I have 26 tokens

[late rivet]

@indigo sable work on this one do the defense skill then go full offence

[west crest]

first, hawk stance

[gray needle]

Why do I have this many talent points?

[reef python]

huh.......

[gray needle]

I just reset my talent tree and ended up with more than usual

[reef python]

how many runs of skt did u do lmao

restart ur game maybe

or try to spend 103+ and save

it should crash ur tree and give u how many u had before

[gray needle]

Ok it went back to normal after restarting lol. Thx bro

[reef python]

np lol

[oblique basin]

Bro why. U should have maxed every talent

Death mark n support n bone shield would have been sick

[honest reef]

it doesn’t work

if you use more than 102 points then it crashes and resets or you physically cannot exit the menu

[oblique basin]

Oof

Having every single talent maxed would have been sick

[gray needle]

Idk tbh. Ig I was afraid of getting banned lol,

[oblique basin]

Lol

[shut brook]

You DON'T want to face that

[indigo sable]

Guys

I need help

I have 29 points and don’t know what to do

[tidal echo]

Best talent tree for mk11 scorpion??

[pearl crown]

Follow Draco talent tree

One sec I'll link

Here

[peak knoll]

Need a tree for defense plss

[west crest]

Hawk stance then done
you can continue to the shirai ryu teachings on offense

[thick obsidian]

So blue

Go ahead

[thick obsidian]

Shoot I’m using weak point attacks

[tawdry edge]

you don't need that at all

[thick obsidian]

Oh alright then

I’ll use that during next refresh

[tawdry edge]

wait my quests are back, ill send u the talents entirely

is that the team u use?

[thick obsidian]

Yea

[tawdry edge]

have u been able to kill eb?

[thick obsidian]

It’s my secondary team

[thick obsidian]

Pretty close too actually

but he switched out before I could do anything

[tawdry edge]

eb has invulnerability when he gets to 1hp, so deathmark is a must

[thick obsidian]

alright.

[tawdry edge]

and the invulnerability lasts 10 seconds

[thick obsidian]

I saw that

I have that piece but never got it to 10 fusions

[tawdry edge]

do you have sf scorp?

[thick obsidian]

ofc I do

[rocky lance]

unless if you have pipe you can use that to steal his invulnerability

[tawdry edge]

can you send me all ur tower gear in #🏯-towers-relic-hunt now?

[thick obsidian]

Don’t got that

[thick obsidian]

Sure

[rocky lance]

well deathmark it is

[tawdry edge]

@thick obsidian

[thick obsidian]

Thanks

[trim mango]

This talent tree is way diffrent from what I have

[tawdry edge]

this is for a specific battle

not my main talent tree

[trim mango]

Ahhhhh

[tawdry edge]

@thick obsidian

[thick obsidian]

ty

@tawdry edge

on the support tree whats the first 2 skills?

[tawdry edge]

this

[thick obsidian]

i have a few spare talent points

what should i use em on?

[tawdry edge]

u shouldn't have spare talents

[thick obsidian]

well i do apparently

[tawdry edge]

did you do everything correctly?

[thick obsidian]

yea

[tawdry edge]

can u ss them and send it?

[thick obsidian]

i checked it over 3 times

oh wait

i forgot outworld scourge

nvm

[tawdry edge]

Lmao

[thick obsidian]

alright all set

im goin in

[dapper igloo]

Revenant is one of the best talents i have used so far saved me 5 times in 3 matches ❤️

[honest reef]

uh huh

[acoustic halo]

Is it in defence?

[queen steppe]

Yep

[acoustic halo]

What it acctually do tho

[dapper igloo]

Yes

It saves u from getting killed

When u hit 0 health

[acoustic halo]

Like warlock quan chi

[dapper igloo]

It gives u immortality for 5 secs

[queen steppe]

10-30% chance of giving you 5 secs of invulnerability right before you get killed

[queen steppe]

.

[acoustic halo]

Oh

[dapper igloo]

Defence talents are very good for mid level players like myself

Fujins boom , shaolin last stand shinnoks teachings revenant etc

[queen steppe]

max out revenant + shinnok's teachings for faction wars, survivor and tower battles xd

speaking of fw, i'm gonna make a death mark talent preset

further options to choose from

[dapper igloo]

I likw death mark but not so much

[acoustic halo]

Isnt that noob saibots ability

[queen steppe]

works best with characters who have good basic attack chain and can easily spam them (e.g. KLK, mk11 scorp, etc.)

[queen steppe]

Yep

[shut brook]

not really, since the talent existed before noob was introduced

[acoustic halo]

Oh

Hat does grim essence do?

[shut brook]

20% power gen
noob's effect: duration increased by 10 seconds
fx: 50% cc against opponents affected by bleed

[honest reef]

very strange for an fx effect meant for him to use

[shut brook]

that's why i pair noob with skarlet

[honest reef]

im assuming they want you to do clone kb, die, and then use it

[shut brook]

and i also give noob his legacy and the bat

[gray needle]

Anyone have a reliable talent tree setup for survival?

[west crest]

Just use this

[reef python]

Draco just pin ur tree at this point lmao

[west crest]

Yeah, why not?

[gray needle]

No bear stance?? Interesting. I like it.

[reef python]

Bear is trash

[smoky sentinel]

^

[dapper igloo]

Do not use brutal ending on survivor mode, it is bugged. Only death mark.

Brutal ending sometimes does not register the ko, and it makes infinity loop and only the quit button works

For example

[honest reef]

except that wasn’t brutal ending at all?

that was you winning the duel with sp1 + the passive

[oblique basin]

ya thats what i thught 2

[dapper igloo]

Brutality with scorpion

Sf scorpion taged out, my scorpion pulled back and i did brutal ending.

[honest reef]

strange

[dapper igloo]

It happened a few weeks ago too

It was in july

Same problem with brutal ending

[lofty fractal]

bug

Start over

[magic solstice]

Hello can Simeone pls Post a good balanced Talent tree . Thanks you

@smoky sentinel

[smoky sentinel]

Here

[magic solstice]

Thanks you

[reef python]

@nova bloom copy this

[nova bloom]

Should I change anything?

[reef python]

sometimes u may need to

but usually it should be good

[nova bloom]

Okay thank you

What is the max amount of talent points usable @reef python

[brisk plover]

can someone send me screenshots of a defensive tree?

[honest reef]

it’s 102, you can complete the tower for all 100 points and then doing the tower again gives another point

so 3 total runs of the tower

[nova bloom]

For some reason I have 110

[honest reef]

doing the tower again DOES give more points but the game does not allow you to use them, it will give all the points back

the max possible is 107 points for the veteran players, any more than your total will be removed or you’re gonna have to ignore them

[nova bloom]

Is cripple considered a debuff?

[honest reef]

yes

any status effect that is negative is a debuff, so bleed, poison, power drain, cripple etc

there are special status effects that cannot be resisted though

these are usually character specific

[smoky sentinel]

Precision at 4 minimum and lightning blow instead of savagery

[nova bloom]

I feel combo Enders gives them time to recover right?

[smoky sentinel]

Combo enders are the core of the game, you should never skip them unless you are facing specific characters

Plus it's just extra damage

And you can't trigger deathmark without combo enders

[nova bloom]

So 1 Lightning blow point and 5 precision?

[honest reef]

lightning blow needs to be maxed out

[nova bloom]

Yeah but I can’t max both

Should I only give 1 point to shirai ryu teaching instead?

[smoky sentinel]

If I managed to, i am sure you can too

Since apparently you have even more points

[honest reef]

I have it at 1 point

[nova bloom]

When you use more the 102 talents reset

[smoky sentinel]

5

[honest reef]

what you can do is remove the bar bonus from support and use those points for precision

[smoky sentinel]

Yeah, I use 102

And as you can see, I managed to max both

^

[nova bloom]

Good idea

[smoky sentinel]

You wasted 4 extra points in defense

On the bar below

[honest reef]

oh yeah those

that’s 7 extra from defense and support you can be using

[smoky sentinel]

And yeah the ones in support too

[nova bloom]

Cruel affliction is better than shirai ryu right?

[honest reef]

hmm

well it depends

[smoky sentinel]

No

It's not

[honest reef]

shirai ryu is for general use, cruel affliction is for more specific situations

[smoky sentinel]

Extra crits from black dragon training = extra power from shiray ryu

[honest reef]

yeah

[nova bloom]

I managed to max everything

[smoky sentinel]

Dots will help only a minority of the characters

Yeah looks good

Boar stance can work

[nova bloom]

👍

[honest reef]

it’s crazy how early you can get it

of course it’s not as influential as weak point attacks, but the difference in points needing to unlock it

great talent

[nova bloom]

On yeah shield break is super useful

Thanks to both of you

[rugged nacelle]

Max lion stance for total attack increase for all your characters

Take 1 out of percision if you're not using characters like inj2 raiden, scourage baraka, silver Jacqui

[indigo sable]

Which is best

Is precision important is there point maxing it

[smoky sentinel]

It's literally a must have

Also get lightning blow and max it, deathmark too

[indigo sable]

Instead of what

I have no more points

[smoky sentinel]

You can probably drops some stuffs in support

[brisk plover]

anyone got a defensive talent tree?

[analog pivot]

you can find every type of talent tree in youtube

[queen steppe]

Very

[honest reef]

@hasty latch talent points are EXTREMELY important to your kollection and gameplay

they can save you trouble of a lot of things

there are certain builds for certain playstyles but there's always been a general build that works for any character and any gamemode

[hasty latch]

I’m listening

[honest reef]

Draco's talent tree is it

right here

[hasty latch]

Alright

[honest reef]

all battles where there's a preset team of ai characters have 0 talents

you can only encounter other talent tree users in faction wars

so battle mode, challenges, towers, you always have an advantage of talents

[hasty latch]

Ok

This what I got so far

[honest reef]

yeah

so you see the add button at the bottom

you need to put 5 points into it to move to the next column of talents

add 5 and then put 4 points into precision

for offense

[hasty latch]

Ok

Done

[honest reef]

mainly you just wanna aim for getting the offense stuff maxed, but you can also max out hawk stance

[hasty latch]

What’s next after that

[honest reef]

hawk stance

[hasty latch]

Just masked it

Maxed*

[honest reef]

alright

[fleet sparrow]

Max all defenses randomly and until you reach bone shield and revenant max them

[honest reef]

eh

[fleet sparrow]

Joking

[honest reef]

you almost got me

[fleet sparrow]

I still think revenant is hated on tho

Bone shield sucks tho

[honest reef]

20% btw

[hasty latch]

I got 4 points left

[honest reef]

just put the points into the bottom bar for offense

you'll just mainly wanna get lin kuei tutorage and black dragon training maxed out

[hasty latch]

Ok

Gotta wait since I finished my 3 fights already

Won them all

[honest reef]

you should be set for now, you'll clear battles waaaaaay easier with the extra damage

[hasty latch]

Alright

[tawdry edge]

Sorcerer's tower talents^

@rugged nacelle I'm assuming you're using similar talents for the tower

[shut brook]

ptsd from fst 160?

[tawdry edge]

[tawdry edge]

I'm also using tremor's legacy

I could also throw in Matokan skin for 90% cripple res. Can't be too confident yk

[rugged nacelle]

Yeah unbreakable will definitely, though I'm using sub-zero for the tower so offense is a bit different lol

[tawdry edge]

Oh gotchya

imma remove sr teaching, cuz I don't have any gear or any1 who'll increase my cc

[fleet sparrow]

Bro i had 109 talent points and I accidentally reset and now i have 101

[smoky sentinel]

Max is supposed to be 102 anyway

[spare sonnet]

Does anyone have a talent tree preset that does well in survivor battles?

[oblique basin]

pretty much any revereand and bone shield if u wanna be a bot

[honest reef]

debuff resistances could work

hawk, and maybe even unbreakable will might be good

since there's a lot of kl lks running around the season

[wanton spruce]

Gawk stance

[neat coral]

What is better, teamwork or spec ops tactics

[hardy girder]

Most people choose teamwork

Spec Ops Tactic is good if you use all 3 team members during the match rather than soloing

[neat coral]

Nah then ima choose teamwork

Is 3 points for precision good?

[smoky sentinel]

Min 4

5 is the best

[neat coral]

Alr thx

[sudden linden]

@tawdry edge

what would you correct

[tawdry edge]

remove the support ones

and try focusing on the lion stance and lightning blow

[sudden linden]

okay, should i give one point for each one or focus on maxing one then second

[tawdry edge]

one at a time

[sudden linden]

thank you mate

[forest horizon]

Any suggestion for resurrection modifier?

[neat nimbus]

Looks pretty good! Very close to mine....the important ones are maxed👍
One suggestion though:
On Support -> max Outworld Scourge! Take some Talent points from Live for battle and maybe from Spec Ops tactics ...and go for Outworld Scourge! Worth it!😉

[west crest]

Looks like you're too focused on support

[west crest]

Lin kuei > BD training > SR teach > Lblow > Death mark

[forest horizon]

Ok ty guys lets try these readjustments

[west crest]

Horse(1) > spec/teamwork(5) > for battle(1) > meditation(5) > WPA(5)

[west crest]

try this one
this is mine

[neat nimbus]

that's mine...where's the confusion?

[forest horizon]

Ok

Good idea about scourge

But it needs few sacrifices

[west crest]

Ahh.... OW scourge

I see

[neat nimbus]

You have no ideea how nice is to get free SP1s....🙂
( and there are some chars which trigger it more often I think ...Klassic Sonya is one of them )

[forest horizon]

Yes if i dont use it i wonder why my xrat for sp3 isn't loading as fast as sp2 does lol

[west crest]

But yours is like reducing damage

[forest horizon]

Ill go with this for this tower fight first

6 points left guys what's most important lemme know @west crest @neat nimbus i tried to balance out ur tips combined

Fyi I am old player my default points were 103 so idk

[neat nimbus]

Lighting Blow on Ofense! Max it!💯

[west crest]

The spec op tactic is used to increase the power gen of tagged characters, forcing you to frequently tag in and tag out (same as the one for all mod)
Teamwork is usually used to donate power to characters who are not active(Need sp spamer character)

[west crest]

Lblow & SR teach

[neat nimbus]

details...😂

[west crest]

Yep

Eehh.... I don't recommend the OW scourge, because it can reduce the damage
But it's fine if you want to use it

[neat nimbus]

That's for SP1s spammers -> KC Johnny, MK11 Scorp...etc..😉
But how it's reducing the damage????

[forest horizon]

@west crest I think ill be fine now I'll focus on character. And ok if this doesht work I'll swap ow scourge with shirai ryu. I went with lightning blow max

[west crest]

Let me think about reduc the damage

Ahh.... BD training
+Crit damage

The crit damage will be reduced

[neat nimbus]

So, no damage reducing huh?😅
Anyway...gtg! See ya! 👋

[west crest]

Yeah😐
See ya

[honest reef]

what is this damage reduction you guys are talking about

[west crest]

No, no damage reduction

[lone knoll]

@rugged nacelle i also have death mark

[dapper igloo]

Ok so i actually haven't set up my talents again since the bug where they kept getting reset. Now i don't remember which ones i had. Can you please tell me exactly which ones i should add

[smoky sentinel]

Copy this

[forest horizon]

He's talking about critical damage reduction by outworld scourge talent ; but if we spam kcJC's or mk11 scorp's sp1 it can be compensated for, apparently.

[forest horizon]

Yeah that's a shame i thought they would fix our presets but they never did it now we gotta start over from scratch I'll copy this again too.

[honest reef]

there’s no critical damage reduction talent lol

outworld scourge is 15% chance for a free sp1

[shut brook]

combat veteran

[honest reef]

i was about to say relating to outworld scourge

since they directly said it was outworld scourge which it wasnt

[forest horizon]

Wdym ow scourge can reduce damage tho. Please clarify. I'm lost. You mean i can spend in damage/ attack category if i choose to invest in those huh?

[west crest]

no, no damage reduction. I just thought wrong

[forest horizon]

Oh ok no worries your tt tips went along way I am still using it rn thanks.

[dapper igloo]

Is there something wrong with bone shield ?
Its been 3 days still i havent seen it go off i have it maxed out

[smoky sentinel]

All about luck

[harsh panther]

So I see they've got the talents completely whacked out again

Just want to verify that it's not just a problem with my account are everybody's talent's completely screwed?

[rocky lance]

ig imma have to paste it again #🗡-kollection message

[quiet osprey]

Are any of these talents worth it:
Shirai Ryu Teachings
Horse Stance
Spec Ops Tactics

[reef python]

1st and third

[quiet osprey]

Screwed how?

[hexed yacht]

i just finished shao kahn tower

what talent tree should i use?

[rocky lance]

this @hexed yacht

[harsh panther]

Yes, when I tried to load a talent it has a talent tree that I did not build and it's way over the points allowance and then when I go back in I'm back at all zeros

[harsh panther]

They seem to have fixed it

[hexed yacht]

oh

i dont use scorpion or have any characters that stun

so ill change boar stance?

[reef python]

try mongoose

[hexed yacht]

ok ty

[smoky sentinel]

@foggy pollen

[foggy pollen]

awesome, thanks!

ideally i want everything mastered correct?

[smoky sentinel]

Copy that

You can't max every single talent

[foggy pollen]

😮

oh

i didnt know that

[rocky lance]

max is 102

[arctic marlin]

I just load my preset and -15?

[shut brook]

The best option would be to remake the preset since you have 115 points total

And the max should be 100/102

[arctic marlin]

it was bug ig

[harsh panther]

Yes it is. And mine's ongoing. I can't seem to get any talents Trees built that remain. when I go back in I'm at all zeros again and the previous save build is wrong

I think the builds are right, but the point value is wrong. Here's an example

Notice it says I've used 9 points on my offense but in reality it's only four

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying to hold on to my rank in survivor mode and I fear it will be impossible with no talent points lol

[smoky sentinel]

Reset your tree and do it again

And don't use more than 102

[shut brook]

^

[harsh panther]

Yeah I have a build working for now but I've done this before and at some point it changed

[abstract cobalt]

Pez

[fossil forge]

Best of the best

[harsh panther]

?

[fossil forge]

Talent of attack

Show talents def

[harsh panther]

Yeah I can do that but do you notice how it says 9 points on offense and clearly that's only four?

Anyway I'm not using that build cuz it's whacked out it won't load. I go back in and it says zero

[frank fern]

Anyone know why’s my talent keep resetting for no reason

I load a preset and then I leave and it gets reset

[rocky lance]

Are you sure you are not using more than 102 points?

[oblique basin]

@peak yacht i personally use this one but instead of brutal ending go for death mark

since u dont have bruts yet

[peak yacht]

Aight thanks

[noble elk]

Any talents yall can recommend me?

[west crest]

Lion, hawk & mangoose imo

[noble elk]

What do I do to the ones I've "mastered"

Should I keep it that way or remove it?

[west crest]

then precision(offense)
Or teamwork/SO tactics(support

[west crest]

You can reset it

[noble elk]

So this first?

[noble elk]

Sure, and thanks

[west crest]

Yes

[noble elk]

Oh yeah, what does it improve?

[noble elk]

Should I master all of these

[west crest]

If you want to have big damage, focus on offense

[west crest]

Yes

[noble elk]

I want it balanced

🗿

[west crest]

How many points do you have?

[noble elk]

Like this?

[west crest]

Yes

[noble elk]

About more than 30

[west crest]

15+17

32

[noble elk]

I think so

[west crest]

+add offense +5
Then fulfill precision

[noble elk]

You mean master precision?

[west crest]

+add support+5
Then choose you want teamwork or SO tactics

[west crest]

Yes

[noble elk]

So 5 for precision and 5 for S.O. tactics?

[west crest]

Less points for 5 SO tactics

5 precision & 2 SO tactics

[noble elk]

How do I unlock precision and SO Tactics 💀

[west crest]

tap (+ADD) then fill the bar below

[noble elk]

Did I do it right

[west crest]

Yes

[noble elk]

So 5 for precision and 2 for SO Tactics?

[west crest]

Yes

[noble elk]

Does this apply to all characters btw?

[dapper igloo]

Yep

[west crest]

Oh yeah,
if you want 5 SO tactics downgrades mongoose

[noble elk]

And does it work on all types of battles?

[west crest]

Yes

[noble elk]

Which is better, mongoose or so tactics

[west crest]

Any mode, any battle, any character

[west crest]

SO tactics

[noble elk]

Im gonna remove 3 from mongoose then transfer it to so Tactics?

So Tactics got 2 rn so

🗿

this?

[west crest]

Mmhmmm

[noble elk]

Any more or is this all of it?

Cuz I'm gonna save it as a preset 🗿

[west crest]

For now that's all

[noble elk]

Okay, thanks

[west crest]

You still need a lot of points

[noble elk]

I get more points by doing Shao Kahn's tower?

[west crest]

Yes

[noble elk]

okay thank you

[west crest]

Your welcome

[neat coral]

This is what i use for 194

Good or bad, if u got a better one can u send it to me?

[west crest]

you better focus on offense

[west crest]

try this

[neat coral]

What is the beginning of offense tho

[west crest]

Lion(1) and precision(5)

[neat coral]

Alr

U got no defense?

[west crest]

only hawk

[neat coral]

Oh okay

Alr thx ima try

[forest horizon]

@low mountain

[low mountain]

Sweet ty

[forest horizon]

I'm using this tree in towers currently

[low mountain]

I'll try that out too.

[queen steppe]

Current talent tree i'm using

[rocky lance]

@static bough

[static bough]

thx

[rocky lance]

yw

[tender adder]

Team work is better than spec ops

[west crest]

everyone has their own opinion

If someone uses spec ops tactics, it means that person often tag in & out

[honest reef]

yuh

[noble elk]

Guys what is "Revenant" on defense? And what does it do?

[reef python]

u can see what each talent does when u click on it

it has 30% chance to save u from dying

sounds good but not worth it

[honest reef]

you can't see what it is maxed out until you can max it out

or like you could just look it up bruh

[dapper igloo]

It can be good on bosses on story mode. But on online? Meh

[noble elk]

Is the "revenant" in defense good and does it work in any mode (even battle mode?)

[west crest]

everything in talent works anywhere

[noble elk]

Is it useful though?

[west crest]

I don't know, I don't use defense(except hawk)

[queen steppe]

it's luck based but for me it's a last resort type of thing. i try not to die in the 1st place

[dusky mountain]

I’m all atk and a bit of support

[reef python]

try out hawk

usually what u want is max out hawk, max out offense, and leftover support

[noble elk]

What should I prioritize? Attack/Defense/Support?

[smoky sentinel]

Copy this

[noble elk]

I only have like 32 talent points 🗿

[smoky sentinel]

Keep playing the shao kahn tower

[noble elk]

Oh yeah about that, what happens if I complete the whole tower

[smoky sentinel]

It starts again

[noble elk]

Everytime you complete it, it resets, so you can get more ?

[smoky sentinel]

You don't get more points after the first run

Max is 100

[noble elk]

You can only collect 100 talent points?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[honest reef]

so I guess it doesn’t apply to everyone if you’re confident that you can only get 100 points

I easily have 103 points from doing 3 more runs because battle 100 gives another point each run

but still you can only use 102

[smoky sentinel]

102 is the max usable

[dapper igloo]

🙂

[tender adder]

What did you do?

[dapper igloo]

no thing

[tender adder]

Then why were you banned

[rocky lance]

that definitely isn't nothing

[dapper igloo]

I do not know

[tender adder]

There’s gotta be some reason

You hack souls or something

Or did a glitch

[dapper igloo]

I don't know why my account got banned

[tender adder]

There’s gotta be some reason and if there’s not message them

[dapper igloo]

Can

[dapper igloo]

I don't know why my account got banned

[tender adder]

Message wb to see why

[dapper igloo]

Do you have a game email?

[tender adder]

Make a new mk mobile acc and create a report

[tender adder]

https://go.wbgames.com/MKhelp

[dapper igloo]

Thanks

[noble elk]

What should I prioritize? Defense, Attack or Support?

[smoky sentinel]

^

[noble elk]

with 32 talent points

[smoky sentinel]

Attack

[west crest]

Hawk first

[noble elk]

What does hawk do?

[rocky lance]

makes you fly like a hawk 🙂

[noble elk]

🤯

My jade can fly 🤯🤯

[harsh panther]

I personally use defense and support for faction wars and offense and support for towers

But always hawk It's debuff resistance

[nocturne lagoon]

whats a rlly good talent tree for mk11 scorp

[oblique basin]

everything thats related to dots

[blazing helm]

This good ?

[honest reef]

gotta max lin kuei tutorage and black dragon training

[blazing helm]

I have nothing in support and defense btw

[blazing helm]

kk

[honest reef]

u should have enough to get to spec ops tactics maxed

[blazing helm]

ye, i got 3 points left over

[honest reef]

yeah just put that into hawk stance

[blazing helm]

kk

Thanks man

@honest reef btw how should i place my team in order?

Fujin first? Then raiden? Then kabal

[honest reef]

yeah

[blazing helm]

k

[harsh panther]

Anybody having problems with their talents when I go and it's either set at zero and then I'll load a talent preset and go back and it'll be back at zero or my presets are all crazy with the wrong values

[harsh panther]

Basically it looks like no matter what I do when I go back and to check it's all at zero no matter what preset I load or how I dispersed my points. It's always back at zero when I go back in

[reef python]

r u using 103 points or more

[harsh panther]

Nope, I've tried it at 102,100, and 98 😂

Even tried closing and reopened a couple times but nothing is helping

[harsh panther]

Well I just made another preset and for some reason it's working lol

So I don't know really what I'm doing wrong with the other ones or if it's a bug or what

[reef python]

weird

[harsh panther]

Ikr

At least this one's my tower build that seems to be working. I'm not even going to mess with it anymore. I'm just going to leave it there lmao

[coral stratus]

What is the best talent tree?

[smoky sentinel]

@coral stratus copy this

[west crest]

there is no best, but here you will be recommended

[fervent jackal]

Need advice guys

Should I go for tsunami or savagery

[honest reef]

lightning blow

[fervent jackal]

Why that one?

It seems pretty useless I won't make it to xray bar

[honest reef]

what

[fervent jackal]

And even of I do, what will 3% do

[honest reef]

lightning blow is 15% when maxed out

[fervent jackal]

I'm changing tree for tower

[honest reef]

it disables all of the enemy team’s specials for 5 seconds

[fervent jackal]

That's still low, and why disable it for 5 sec

[honest reef]

you know how common sp1 is

[fervent jackal]

Yea

I got terminator epic maxed

20% dmg to all, and every sp it adds another 10% dmg

That icw i2 raiden would kill them btches

[hardy girder]

Just take it that "Lightning Blow" is just better than the other 2 on the tier

[fervent jackal]

You mean in any case or just these towers?

[hardy girder]

Everywhere

[fervent jackal]

Can you show me your tree plz

[hardy girder]

Some 200 damage from basics to tagged out opponents or slight damage increase that is hard to see is not good anyways

[fervent jackal]

Rapid response and thunderous blow any good?

[honest reef]

it has been discovered that they only increase the minimum damage of specials

[fervent jackal]

So no good at all?

[honest reef]

i think that’s still true but you’re better off with the crit builds

[hardy girder]

Main tree I usually use

[honest reef]

black dragon training, shirai ryu teachings

[hardy girder]

Made this for Twisted Tower F200 and now using it for towers

[hardy girder]

This is not recommended. Very defense oriented because of my main team.

[fervent jackal]

What does critical hits exactly cause them?

[smoky sentinel]

Extra damage

How long have you been playing for?

[fervent jackal]

2 years but never really cared about learning the so many things about the battle. Its just too much

[honest reef]

and you cared enough about learning about the tower epics?

[smoky sentinel]

Or about getting thousands of souls

[fervent jackal]

Nope, I just know the straightforward things from epics, rare, uncommon, common

[smoky sentinel]

Kinda hard to play a game when you don't know what you're doing isn't it?

[fervent jackal]

So I either know everything, or I don't know what I am doing

Typical

[honest reef]

except none of us know everything

[smoky sentinel]

Nobody said everything, but at least the basics like critical hits..

[fervent jackal]

Than why am I expected to do exactly that

[fervent jackal]

I read the glossary, no worries

[smoky sentinel]

Nobody does?

[fervent jackal]

Doesn't mean I'm an expert now

[honest reef]

this game gets complicated for controls so simple

[fervent jackal]

What controls

[honest reef]

lol

[fervent jackal]

Cmon tell me

[honest reef]

oh you’re serious 🥶

of course, the game is just a bunch of taps and swipes

characters automatically move forward if not doing anything

and you have 2 sets of attacks you switch between automatically from just tapping

[fervent jackal]

Ah you're talking about that

[honest reef]

well they are pretty simple

[harsh panther]

So if I have special endings talent maxed out, can I kill all three bosses as long as they're under 25%? I know I can use friendship on the last one. I just don't know if I can use it on all three at once if they're bosses

[shut brook]

I think you have to charge it up every single time