🤼-characters-and-teams

[devout turtle]

Iirc you get crit/cdmg iirc one of them just go with crit build

Dot team is ass scarlet/mk11 scor/rm

[devout turtle]

@hollow obsidian did you test the hooks fx effect?

[hollow obsidian]

It will take a long time for me to fx this piece @devout turtle

[turbid lantern]

Surprised to see a D'Vorah on a team.

[hollow obsidian]

Well reptile gives cc against poisoned opponents, dvorah gives infinite poison and cd against poisoned opponents and mileena doubles the dot dmg

[turbid lantern]

What does CC and CD mean for this game?

[devout turtle]

Crt Rate and dmg

@hollow obsidian if possible can you tell me how efficient sniping silver battles in krypt? Compared to 100% run , i hunt for epic fuse

[hollow obsidian]

Crit chance and crit dmg

[hollow obsidian]

Only silver battles can drop tower epics

That's why I do silver only runs

And the boss battle

[snow stone]

Once per special

[devout turtle]

@hollow obsidian if i burned 40 keys like this , is there hope to get at least 5 epic fuses ?

[hollow obsidian]

idk

[devout turtle]

From your experience how much should i expect?

[hollow obsidian]

i expect nothing

[devout turtle]

Though so too tbh 😂

Then i will go slowing the sure way

And continue trying to get dk to buy epic fuses

[hollow obsidian]

actually i expect nothing from battles

i do expect dks from some chests though

[devout turtle]

Will try it and make my aim silvers and 1 purple chest

Will say my result at the end of the day

[hollow obsidian]

i don't think it's a good ideea to do what i do

[devout turtle]

Dw fenix i am not the type who mimic without thinking but i kinda have eccentric goals in games i may sacrifice some progress to get what i want even if its worthless (in games i play to have fun by doing eccentric goals)

Its just that i will be very busy next 2weeks

So i kinda want to do as much today

[hollow obsidian]

i lost interest in krypt since update 5.1

[devout turtle]

I didnt like krypt even since beginning if not for drops i wont touch it

😂

I prefer if solo mode and we use one char more

[hollow obsidian]

i liked 4 floors on elder

but we're going off topic now

[dusky folio]

Onslaught squad about too be in full effect

[devout turtle]

@snow stone @vernal hamlet what are the krypt rares i should look for ? Except sigh as i already finished it

[vernal hamlet]

treads, lantern, the noob set, kano set

and kabal set

oh and I guess skarlet set too

[snow stone]

Tread is peak

[devout turtle]

Seem will finish tread/hook/noob ones first

[snow stone]

Sanguine is nice on rav mileena but kinda overkill

[devout turtle]

Tread f6
Hook f5
Lantern f9

Noob f4

[vernal hamlet]

use bloodspell + burning vengeance on bosses

[devout turtle]

Will push hook/noob one then continue on tread

But i think finka take peiorty

Still f6

😂

But i dont use dot team at all currently

[snow stone]

Max onslaught but 0 gear, bruh

@devout turtle very fair gameplay

[cold void]

Why Johnny cage kopa combat never stun nobody when i play with him BUT when he is my enemy has 100% stun

[devout turtle]

I see finka effect do wonders

[honest carbon]

@devout turtle @snow stone
So I reached 999 anger management buff, it's not going any further than that.

This is the highest damage I reached for sp1 (fusion 9 Liz baraka)

The video itself was 5mins long doing loops

[snow stone]

Yeah 999 is indeed the cap, lol

[honest carbon]

Oh I thought I could go forever 😕

[random sundial]

Anyone got a recommend team for mileena

[brave bison]

Now swap mk11 scorpion with that bug

:]

[snow garden]

mk11 scorp and ass skar

[vernal hamlet]

lemon helping in here? unheard of

[snow garden]

just tryna get more involved in here again what can i say

[random sundial]

What about fire tanya

[snow garden]

works

[fast dirge]

I just used this equipment setup on Onslaught Subzero and it worked really well in combination with his passive

[random sundial]

I rly gotta play towers to get good gear

[timid sun]

What battle is this

[vernal hamlet]

shao kahn battle 87

[turbid lantern]

How does strategy effect Dragon Krystals and Krypt points?

Nevermind, caught up in the channel.

[timid sun]

It's bugged? 💀

[snow stone]

You can only kill enemies with xray

[hollow obsidian]

I don't care about krypt hearts once I get what I need from the store

[turbid lantern]

Just wondering how much it slows down progress to buy the EPIC and maybe a diamond.

[hollow obsidian]

i don't know

nor care

i couldn't be bothered to farm junk packs

[snow stone]

You can buy them just fine, store is more efficient than junk

The power of junk is when you do ALOT of runs a day

Instead of it going to waste, thats a DK conversion machine, you can get 100-200 DK a day or even more if you hard farm

Since 45 is the Normal DK cap. That many a day is entirely game breaking

[turbid lantern]

I don't care about junk either, I don't have that kind of time to bother with it.

It usually takes three runs to buy an EPIC, if I went silver only will that still be the case?

[snow stone]

No

[turbid lantern]

So four or five runs then?

[snow stone]

I mean really it depends

Silver only is just wasteful

Could be 3, could be like 6 cuz your gonna have dead runs

The only roadblocks for hard grinders are invig stones and keys

Everything else is garbage

So being wasteful them is gonna hurt you unless you never wanna grind

[vapid hornet]

So day of the Dead Kitana is best with other outworld characters?

[snow garden]

yur

[devout turtle]

That why i do silver then hunt for purple chest/tomb i skip 4~5 bronze fights/run in hard grind days it let me do 3~4 extra runs by saving time , still in the end you gotta sacrifice irl time to do this😂

Well unless one really have a goal no need for such grind

But this st period is kinda empty for most so doing krypt is more beneficial , a month of krypt farming lets say at least 10 epic/dia fuses and ~5k dk

[devout turtle]

@snow stone can you link me to your message about mk1 scor sp2 dmg ? Want to compare things

[devout turtle]

@hollow obsidian if possible do you remmber how much mk1 scor sp2 dmg ? With builds you used before , trying to test but as i lack necessary epics to test i need a referance

[hollow obsidian]

i usually go for nw's epic, tanuki, pipe and beaver when going for max dps

[devout turtle]

Hammer work too? As my weaver still f4

[hollow obsidian]

Yeah

[snow stone]

Uhh which? Lol

[devout turtle]

Dunno i forgot that why i asked but one you posted in the past

[snow stone]

Hm, I mean ive talked about it more than once

[devout turtle]

Pick one you see i can try to do 😂 i just need numbers so i know if i am in the right way or not

@snow stone iirc its was a video that what i remember

[snow stone]

Couldn't find the vid, but this is the damage numbers your looking for, or better ofc

[devout turtle]

i am at 330k per hit

trying to figure if i can riase it

will continue testing i, if possible i will share my progress on raising it

[snow stone]

Cyrax on your team and/or hat trick lao, being at max vitality stacks, directors chair, SB, death mark...

[devout turtle]

seem cuase my viatlity alway 0 as i test in fw

[snow stone]

414k is on the low end of scorps potential

[devout turtle]

seem i need to climb to that stage in shao tower

alright

will continue testing and keep you updated

[devout turtle]

@snow stone after testing ik now why all use tanuki 😂, dmg reach 420k/hit now with cyrax on team but most die before i can apply SB/DM

Ofc dmg lacking due to not having chair/full vital as fight end by then (need to test on bosses than fw)

[hollow obsidian]

I use tanuki to trigger the fx effect of nw's epic

[devout turtle]

Not for the luck ?

Wait so it make the dmg buff perma ?

[hollow obsidian]

I could use shao's legacy instead

[hollow obsidian]

No

[devout turtle]

I see

[hollow obsidian]

It's once per opponent's tag

[devout turtle]

When i finish reaper it will be easy to proc fang

[hollow obsidian]

If you want infinite cd from fang then use it on inj2 raiden

[devout turtle]

With both fang/reaper i dont think i will look for other weapons (weaver still an option but will look for another type of gear)

[devout turtle]

And chars that do tagin debuffs

Easier access for fang effect

[hollow obsidian]

Yku could also use terminator's epic if it's at fx

[devout turtle]

No too much trouble

Well vermin hat will do the job too right?

Like its 20% on basics so it will always proc

[vernal hamlet]

you can replace it with like jinsei hat or director’s makeover so you have some good offensive debuffs

[devout turtle]

I mostly use uniform with fang

[hollow obsidian]

You could use ace

[devout turtle]

But only f5 so i need to raise it by 1~2 fusion so its longer duration

But yeah seem no need to fuse it in 10s i should delete opponent

[hollow obsidian]

And for characters with 1 hit sp2 I go with this

While the starter has ice bomb

[devout turtle]

Why the arm cache ?

For the 20% sp dmg to opponents team

?

@hollow obsidian @snow stone finally fx reaper 🔥

I will take a break from krypt as i done too much until i fx reaper 😂

My mk1 scor should finally have the gear in its full effect

I may target wailing spirit but will take it slowly

[devout turtle]

Can use SZ kameo too

[hollow obsidian]

Team dmg

[cinder lily]

How much is arms cache?

[snow stone]

Btw you can just use kanos rare from krypt instead

Or makeover

Cuz SB OP

Maintaining fang is pretty easy you don't have to build around it really

And it only matters for FX fang anyway

[devout turtle]

20%

20% sp dmg

[hollow obsidian]

20%

And if the active opponent takes lethal dmg, the other 2 take 20% of that lethal dmg

[devout turtle]

Here the team gear

[devout turtle]

@hollow obsidian between joker and spawn which you think i should fx first ?

Joker f9
Spawn f7

[cinder lily]

Aah I see, bionic eye is only 15% but don't know if those are stackable

[hollow obsidian]

Spawn

[snow stone]

They dont stack, but eye can also go up to 30%

[north talon]

How many times do I have to get duplicate Klassic noob saibot to be able to perform brutalities

[devout turtle]

15

• 5 asc cards

[somber hill]

Mi11 skarlet good ? She seems weak

[snow stone]

for bleeding

dot

[cinder lily]

Highest health in the game

[north talon]

Damn

[rain pebble]

do we need just extra copies for ascension (like how it is up to fx) or do we need 1 ascension card and 1 copy for each fusion after fx??

[cinder lily]

1 copy + 1 ascension. To fully ascend, 5 copies + 5 ascensions

[rain pebble]

that's gonna be hard

[rain pebble]

ascension cards are only in kombat pass or somewhere else as well??

[vernal hamlet]

you can also always buy them for dragon krystals in the store (kinda not worth)

[rain pebble]

definitely not worth it imo
apart from kc jc is anyone worth ascending??

[eternal jackal]

hanzo hasashi scorpion is worth ascending brother

[snow stone]

Klassic shang

[rain pebble]

any specific reason??

[snow stone]

Hes good

[rain pebble]

what rare and epic equipment should i use fuse up cards on??

[snow stone]

That just depends what you got. In general for epics just focus on F3 to F4

[eternal jackal]

Varmints lucky hat, weekend dad, rockin bowling stones

[remote marten]

how do i build teams efficiently

like i be seeing on youtube stun teams and freeze teams but its just so much

and theirs mk11 teams and klassic cup team you get it i just dont know who to pair with who for certain battles

[brave bison]

Klassic Roiden/injustice Roiden
Mk11 scorpion and
Klassic Liu Kang solos all

[polar geode]

Whats your kollection. Send in #🗡-kollection and someone can guide you.

[eternal jackal]

Klassic liu kang is best diamond

[remote marten]

ok

[somber hill]

Not really xD maybe the 5th

[somber hill]

Why would he xD

[eternal jackal]

He can regen on tag out and sp 1, his combo enders are flawless, and he's easy to learn and use and effectively good in any mode?

[somber hill]

His combo enders are not flawless

Combo Ender 2 is awful

Mk11 liu and Skorpion have much better

Or mk1 skorp

[eternal jackal]

But you said maybe the 5th on your ranking chart how can he be 5th if his combo enders are not flawless?

He's an amazing diamond he melts bosses

[devout turtle]

With sight he kinda solved the double nerf he got even

[eternal jackal]

My opinion but I think klassic liu better then mk11 liu both are amazing though

[hollow obsidian]

Personally I think that at low fusion mk11 liu is better than klk

While at fx is the other way around

[somber hill]

Mine is f9

No its not ^^ mk11 liu is way better

[hollow obsidian]

In terms of dps? No

[somber hill]

Bro dps ? This is not an mmorpg

[hollow obsidian]

klk's dmg output is higher than mk11 liu's

[somber hill]

No but ok

[hollow obsidian]

it is

[somber hill]

Its not

[hollow obsidian]

it is, it's faster to chain klk's sp2 compared to mk11 liu's

[somber hill]

If u dobt know how to play him yes

[hollow obsidian]

i used both lius against the same boss

klk was faster

same gear on both of them

[eternal jackal]

:3

Klassic liu just built different

💅

[somber hill]

Bc u dont know when to Cancel mk11

Just stop it

[hollow obsidian]

no matter how you look at it

[eternal jackal]

Klassic liu is better

[hollow obsidian]

1 hit special will always result in a faster dmg output compared to a multi hit special

[somber hill]

No one cares about how fast

Mk 11 snares and give strength

[hollow obsidian]

strength? lmao

it's barely noticable

[somber hill]

Yes +50% dmg

[hollow obsidian]

it's not + 50%

[somber hill]

Of course it is

[eternal jackal]

Not ☝️

[devout turtle]

Klk can do 2~3 sp2 in same time mk11 do 1

[hollow obsidian]

it's ~50% maybe when you have 3x strength

[eternal jackal]

That's what I'm talking about 😃

[devout turtle]

Also most forget that dots give klk crate and pd give basics dmg boost

[somber hill]

No its 50% ^^ Jason Deals 50% more dmg than described and i have 0% crit

[somber hill]

No ???? Wth are u talking about

[hollow obsidian]

it's not 50%

[somber hill]

Then 33%

Which makes sense so u get +100% if u have 3

[hollow obsidian]

also in towers strength is barely noticable

[somber hill]

Wrong

Very noticable with fx pauldron

Everything u say is just dead wrong

[hollow obsidian]

in towers strength is barely noticable bcs it adds another ~30% on top of the boost from tower gear

so with 2 fx epic weapons and strength you will have ~1230% instead of 1200%

[somber hill]

Then why do i Deal massive dmg

[hollow obsidian]

i never said mk11 liu is not a good dmg dealer

i just said that klk is faster than him

[eternal jackal]

Faster, stronger, better 💪

[somber hill]

And i said mk11 is the best dia

[hollow obsidian]

better only if you don't face evasions

there is no the best

only among the best

[somber hill]

Kold skorpion Kicks ass

[eternal jackal]

You're right praedtor fenix... klassic liu really is the best fighter in the whole game

[eternal jackal]

*takes

Jk

[hollow obsidian]

and to make it clear, both klk and mk11 liu are among the best diamonds in the game

[eternal jackal]

Both are among the best agreed 👍

[hollow obsidian]

i'm too lazy to remake this, but smoke is also among the best

[devout turtle]

Now fenix how much atk affect dps ? In crit builds ?

[novel temple]

This my mk11 team could I use anyone else?

[eternal jackal]

The rest is a hilarious way to categories any diamond that isn't top tier

[hollow obsidian]

look at how much dmg you deal without gear, equip attack gear boost and see for yourself

[pliant breach]

any one got a good character tier list?

[eternal jackal]

Mk11 scorpion, mk11 liu kang, klassic liu kang there 0:3

[pliant breach]

ik but i wanna have fun but i still wanna play good characters

like has someone made a accurate tier list

[high widget]

No

[eternal jackal]

Fun characters that are goated hmm have you tried using klassic movie raiden or strike force scorpion

[pliant breach]

have neither 😦

[polar geode]

Courtesy of @snow stone

But this is mostly his experience and I resonate with him 90%.

[dense anvil]

Hurts seeing Klassic jax Briggs at C after getting him fusion 6 💔

[polar geode]

Yeah but I suggest trying everything since your opinion might differ.

[pliant breach]

thanks does he also have a gold one or no?

[pliant breach]

fr

[polar geode]

I dont think so. You can ask about a specific character and people can give their opinion. You can decide after trying.

[pliant breach]

true

alr thanks

[cinder lily]

Tier list are personal

[honest carbon]

Most of ppl cannot understand that and start judging 😔

Dang I know for sure I cannot make a diamond teir list

I'll make a gold one

[dense anvil]

Send it here when ur done w it

[worthy folio]

I want to ask, How to farm exp in this game?

[snow stone]

Yes

Its not fully updated tho

@pliant breach

[eternal jackal]

Klassic sub 😿

[eternal jackal]

Lizard team broken 🔥

[bleak shuttle]

Every tier list is accurate and wrong at the same time

[robust marten]

Is there any team that are good for krypt with like F3-5

[rain pebble]

bs shinnok is gonna be my first fx when his challenge comes

[snow stone]

K?

[rain pebble]

??

[snow stone]

Thats what im saying

[rain pebble]

vengeful shinnok is fVII rn
he'll be my first fx card when i get 3 more copies from his challenge

[snow stone]

Why are you telling me this

[rain pebble]

u pit him in the garbage tier 🥹

[snow stone]

I didnt

[rain pebble]

never used
means not worth testing

[snow stone]

No, it means I havent used them enough to confidently rank them

[rain pebble]

his passive is dependent on people dying so not that great

dont know about base stats

[snow stone]

Anyone in that tier is not gonna be that great

But I havent like, used them much at all

Im not gonna rank characters I dont have experience with

[rain pebble]

fair

[honest carbon]

Fenix when u ask him to rank his Lizard characters :

[snow stone]

I dont think even fenix could deny they are good for being a gold

But since every gold is useless trash tier to him it doesnt matter

[hollow obsidian]

Not every gold

Only those that are not support for diamonds

[snow stone]

Every gold fighter

Which is kinda the whole point of lizards

[hollow obsidian]

The only golds I still use as fighters are the ascendent mas, triborgs and sometimes kl smonk

[hollow obsidian]

Not my fault they lack a 4th gear and the abillity to support diamonds

[honest carbon]

Oke 😃

[hollow obsidian]

I would count liz jade as a support, but besides inj2 raiden

There isn't really anyone else that can easily reach and maintain her passive

[honest carbon]

Ohh.. what's you opponion on using EB rain in team soak

[hollow obsidian]

The worst option for team soaked

[honest carbon]

Ahh I forgot

He works for outworlds only

Those strikes I mean mb

[hollow obsidian]

Also he is not even a support for outworlders

The dmg of his assisit scale based on rain's fusion, level and gear and also he's the one to get the power from those attacks instead of the one being assisted

[honest carbon]

I never thought I will ever apply that many debuffs, i feel like this is an achievement

[cinder lily]

ok I finished the fs/brut set tierlist

so far the best ones are:
Specter's, Divine's, Dynasty's, Famous', Wrestling Star's, Matokan's, Rockin's, Noble's, and Abyssal's

and the worst ones are Nomad's and Scoundrel's

[timid sun]

lizard baraka being that low is criminal

[cinder lily]

basically the rank system was like this:

• anyone can use the set and get profits from it
• almost anyone can use the set and get profits from it
• good set but there are better options
• better use one of the pieces and not the whole set
• only work with the specific character owner of the set
• bad set lol

[timid sun]

false tierlist.

[snow stone]

Its not ordered

[timid sun]

o

what is it about

[snow stone]

Its a tierlist

They are tiered

[cinder lily]

it's her tierlist

not yours, you can do your own

her/him/it/them/room/om

[timid sun]

why is EBR that high

[snow stone]

Hes a good character🤷‍♂️

[timid sun]

source

[snow stone]

Me, ranking characters however I want

[honest carbon]

Look it's their personal opinion we can have our own too, he just got a visual representation mane

[timid sun]

double it and give it to the next person

[honest carbon]

🥤 🥤

[timid sun]

lizard baraka is still better 💔

[honest carbon]

He's listed in broken lmao what more u expect 🙏

[cinder lily]

beginner opinion is just that, beginner.
It's like asking a 4yo what's the best food and they will say "candy!!!"

and lizard baraka is not that overwhelming tbh

he's good but not the best

good support tho

[timid sun]

im using logic and common sense here, nothing is great about raiden just except the fact that he carries eb kitana on his back with her combo ender, JUST THAT doesn't make them both better than lizard baraka especially with the right setup

dawg used the beginner excuse

jus cause im a beginner doesnt mean i cant use common sense

[snow stone]

Hes literally in the highest tier bruh

He could not be higher

What do you want😂

[timid sun]

hes BETTER than eb rain is what is all im sayin

[cinder lily]

rain shares the lightning ender with EVERY outworld teammate, and many of outworld characters have multihits enders

[snow stone]

ITS NOT ORDERED

Ffs

[timid sun]

what is not "ordererd" exactly

like what is the tierlist based off

[honest carbon]

Ayo placing em first or last dosent matter I guess, he's in the highest tier in that list

[timid sun]

?

[snow stone]

They are not in order of power

They are in a tier

[cinder lily]

bro's learning the difference between rank, top and tier

[snow stone]

EB rain is not the #1 gold

[timid sun]

i understand how tierlists works im literally out there PVPing in 10+ different communities and games

[snow stone]

Hes just one character in the top tier

[timid sun]

ok im super confused

[snow stone]

Clearly not

[timid sun]

imma just leave and continue my krypt

[cinder lily]

yeah you were destroyed

[snow stone]

Stop looking at the order they are in

[cinder lily]

lizard jade > baraka

[snow stone]

It doesnt matter

Its just what tier

[cinder lily]

if I need a character to be in the field during 5 mins to get a decent amount of damage boost then it's a bad character imo

[timid sun]

depends

[snow stone]

Ordering them would take me like 2 hours lmao

[timid sun]

on the situation

but thing is with lizard baraka is that

[hollow obsidian]

That's why I put (no particular order) in my list to clear any confusion

[cinder lily]

If I need a character to be in the field during 5 mins to get a decent amount of damage boost then it's a bad character imo

[timid sun]

as soon as his anger management is out, you wanna tag out, then tag back in with him as soon as the cooldown is off

[snow stone]

I did in my original post, I just reposted the pic here since someone asked

[timid sun]

so its hard to be using jade or noob

when u got baraka

doing hella damage

with a good setup for his damage aswell

[cinder lily]

then I'd just sit him on the support and using other character that can fight without the needed to tag-in and out constantly

[timid sun]

i only use noob or jade when baraka is dead or when his anger runs out

[timid sun]

who

[snow stone]

Jade is better than baraka

[timid sun]

baraka ?
support?

[cinder lily]

like Jade, using baraka as support for the critical chance

Jade can stay in the field doing team damage

not need to tag in and out to get 0,5% damage boost

[timid sun]

then you're not making use of his passive?

i mean trust me whenever i do elder krypt with the lizard team i really really try to be using jade and noob to make use of them

but comparing it to me just spamming baraka

baraka just takes way less time to kill the whole team

his sp2 just casually one shots and regains it in no time

its crazy

his passive power generation feels doubled

[timid sun]

ngl i'd use her for bosses mostly yeah

but besides that i feel like baraka does a better job at everything else

[snow stone]

Jade is better into bosses because of the time limit

I think baraka is much better in random battles

[timid sun]

^

i just tag in noob saibot whenever his sp2 is ready since i gave him shintai of the north

anyways imma grind 450 dks again today hopefully i get kl liu kang atleast once

[honest carbon]

I might not send mane..

[timid sun]

aint 1 hit = 2% damage boost

i usually tag out with baraka when his anger runs out which is when its at 60% dmg buff or more, so basically f0 ceremonial pipe for free 🔥

ngl it would've been really good if the anger management thing also gave a damage reduction not just damage buff

well that would've made him easily incompareable

[cinder lily]

30 secs on the field just for 60% damage boost?

are you serious?

[timid sun]

15*

15 seconds

[honest carbon]

How much damage boost we get in 15secs

60%? Or 30%?

[timid sun]

60%

[honest carbon]

Yoo..

[hollow obsidian]

Depends if it's crit or normal attack

Normal attack gives 2

Crits give 3

[timid sun]

what?? fr?

so giving him rebirth hook was indeed a good idea

🔥

[hollow obsidian]

But i'd rather use jade with her legacy for 300% dmg boost

[timid sun]

???????

bro how can u miss tho??

its hard especially when shes a better kl smoke

💀

[hollow obsidian]

She's not a better kl smoke

[honest carbon]

BROOO

[cinder lily]

she's not better than kl smoke with the debuff reflect

[hollow obsidian]

Also gear exists

[honest carbon]

She's wayy better

[hollow obsidian]

She's not

She has a fixed chance to reflect

[cinder lily]

than baraka yes

[timid sun]

smoke is 20%

shes 30%

[hollow obsidian]

Smoke has chance equal to the debuff res chance

[timid sun]

how is she not better

kl smoke

[cinder lily]

baraka is fine he's just the SUPPORT of the lizard team

[timid sun]

?

[hollow obsidian]

Smoke can go higher

[timid sun]

howcome

[hollow obsidian]

Jade stays at 30

[timid sun]

nah i meant for teammates

lol?

he CAN go higher

but his teammates cant

no?

or what

[hollow obsidian]

They also can

[timid sun]

ok then

[hollow obsidian]

Jade and lizards have a fixed 30%

[timid sun]

but shes still better due to more and more passives

less power gen and AOE team damage

like cmon lol

[hollow obsidian]

Smoke and klassics reflect any debuff they resist

If he gets fixed then debuff immune klassics will reflect debuffs again

[robust marten]

Smoke supremacy

[cinder lily]

I think you should read their passives @timid sun
Lizard Baraka: 2% Damage boost each time he hits an opponent, 1% additional if crit
Outworld teammates have 25% cc boost

Baraka requires to be in the field unless he's low health

at f0 he's just a support

at fx there are better character to use

if you are so dependant of anger management then instead, use bone shield talent kek

[timid sun]

tbf he heals for 10 seconds remember

ineffective in krypt tho sadly

[honest carbon]

Nahh stop 🙏😂

[timid sun]

but doesnt matter when noob saibot is there to save him and bring him back

[honest carbon]

Not the talent lmao

[timid sun]

my setup with him is noble graceful fx and wrestling star last puff and wrestling star jaxophone

thats good enough

[cinder lily]

so why would you be building a damage boost strat if then you are gonna runaway and tag out?

[honest carbon]

I used to like to use baraka in krypt cuz of the heal stones I lacked back then

[timid sun]

when did i say im gonna stay with him

i said i only tag out when his anger runs out

[cinder lily]

then you are not using him efficiently lol

[timid sun]

well too bad all my lizards are FX lvl 60

im talking from my pov

[cinder lily]

if fx why not stacking damage boost?

[timid sun]

for example jade is just a upgrade version of kl smoke

[timid sun]

60% is good enough

[cinder lily]

jade is nothing like kl smoke lel

[timid sun]

easy to get

[cinder lily]

you get 60% and then tag out that's what you are saying

you are 100% dependant on the anger management shield

[timid sun]

btw i hope u know in random battles on my first tag in of lizard baraka he kills all 3 or rarely kills only 2

it doesnt even matter 💀

my setup makes his sp2 do 300k dmg

and hes a sp2 spammer

with his PASSIVE gen

hes literally a speedrun charcater

[cinder lily]

not if you only tag-in and out

[honest carbon]

Without set up sp1 mane, I only used power generation

[cinder lily]

you have to wait 14 seconds every time you want to get him back

[timid sun]

i literally just said in one tag in i kill all 3 or rarely 2

[honest carbon]

But 5 mins was too much

[timid sun]

so i end the match in 20 seconds or less

with baraka

😭

[timid sun]

thats it? for 742% dmg buff? WITH LETHAL TOO?

does it scale down or something??
theres no way thats 742% dmg buff

unless ur baraka is f0

💀

[cinder lily]

there's way

in sk tower 87

see, beginner

[timid sun]

...?

[cinder lily]

I'm gonna eat

[timid sun]

is this guy real @honest carbon

what is he talking about

he just said "there's way in sk tower 87" as if thats what i asked

[cinder lily]

how can't you don't know the playground test that's shao kahn

you asked how he managed to get 742

[timid sun]

when did i say i dont know

[cinder lily]

I gave you the answer thats all

[timid sun]

i did NOT ask

that

i did NOT.

ask that

read again

[cinder lily]

"unless ur baraka is f0"

[timid sun]

i was just surprised

that with all that damage buff

he only did that much damage

i said does it scale down

??????

[cinder lily]

I'm literally quoting you...

[timid sun]

how 742% dmg buff + lethal damage = 350k dmg

i never said anything about why they're not dying

like genuinely what are you yapping about

[cinder lily]

It's special 1 tho

[timid sun]

i know

my sp1 does

almost 200k

with crit boost only

idk how to explain what i mean but

350k dmg with lethal and 742% dmg buff

doesnt feel right

feels like it should do way more

so i said "does it scale down or something" talkin bout the damage the higher you get with anger management

[cinder lily]

well then that's a question he must answwer, maybe his sp1 is not upgraded

or he did less than 10% of the special minigame

[timid sun]

prob

bro a cos sub zero sp1 stacked me till i died @hollow obsidian

i hate enraged 😭

[hollow obsidian]

If you're tagging out baraka the 2nd his anti basic expire

It would be better using jade instead tbh

[timid sun]

whats the point when the match doesnt last 20 seconds cause during his rage all of them die or rarely 1 stay alive

hes a sp2 spammer remember

by passive, not by setup

[hollow obsidian]

Why would I bother with baraka's low dmg ramp when jade's better and permanent?

[timid sun]

low damage???????

he one shots everyone

in elder krypt atleast

[hollow obsidian]

Jade has higher attack than baraka

[timid sun]

whos the highest sp2 raiden

@hollow obsidian

[timid sun]

lemme compare rq

from my fx lvl60s

65k 58k

[hollow obsidian]

Mk11

[timid sun]

hmm hes f4 rn

idk if using him with kl rain is a good synergy tho

ill just stay with kl raiden

[hollow obsidian]

The order of raidens for team soaked is:
Mk11/kl > inj2 > dark > thunder god > klm

[timid sun]

aiight

@hollow obsidian do i fx wrestling star jaxophone or midnight stalker btw

wrestling star is shintai of revenge but special version

[hollow obsidian]

Personally I use special bb way more than regular bb

[timid sun]

howcome

[hollow obsidian]

I don't use bb 90% of the times

[devout turtle]

@hollow obsidian the tree node of bb 30% dmg boost work on sp bb iirc (unless i am wrong)

[hollow obsidian]

From what I know, that works only on the attack that actually breaks the block

[novel temple]

Any good combos here im trash at making them

[honest carbon]

#🗡-kollection

[bleak shuttle]

Yeah baraka is top 3 best golds

Insane character

[timid sun]

^

[snow stone]

The ranking of: who is best when I can only use golds

And

Whos the best gold on my otherwise diamond team, is very different

[honest carbon]

Mobile game

[snow stone]

Game de mobile

[remote marten]

is klassic sonya worth buying in the shop for 450

[quiet wharf]

silver?!

Which do you mean

[remote marten]

gold klassic sonya blade

[snow stone]

yes and no

[quiet wharf]

you mean, demolition sonya blade?

[vernal hamlet]

no they mean klassic sonya because she’s 450

demolition is a basic gold so 250

[quiet wharf]

oh, I was thinking classic movie sonya I was confused

I didn’t know how she went for 450 souls as a diamond 😭🙏🏻

[remote marten]

How come

[snow stone]

dont

[snow stone]

@hollow solar

thinking bout replacing sindel with sub zero but hes f0

[snow stone]

change one thing

i have to redo the gears

1 sec

officially sindel

[hollow solar]

change for sub

he gives boost

[snow stone]

what type of sub zero

mk 11?

[hollow solar]

any bro

[snow stone]

nope

[hollow solar]

yes

[snow stone]

shall be mk 11 he help

[hollow solar]

all sub zeros give 1.5x hearts

[snow stone]

oh he wanna play krypt

yes for krypt even lvl 1

[hollow solar]

show me ur equipment

[hollow solar]

like all equipment you have

[snow stone]

ye

[hollow solar]

and how tf is your mk11 scorp F7 and ur account isnt even max lvl

My krypt team

[snow stone]

my scropion is F3 and my acount is max

[hollow solar]

real bro, mine was F1 untill recently

now hes F8

[snow stone]

my luck is just a bit weird 💀

[hollow solar]

same bro

I kept getting kl liu

from the summon packs

[snow stone]

where do i post my equipments

[hollow solar]

you can do it here

[snow stone]

i wanna take care of my mk 11 scorpion but idk how

vial of inf blood and viper hood f0 aswell

[hollow solar]

what does gift do

rains epic friendship piece

i dont have it

[snow stone]

30% unblockable

[hollow solar]

mhm

[snow stone]

40% chance to despair on combo enders

idk what despair does

tbh

[hollow solar]

it removes all buffs on enemy

its like dispel but oposite effect

[snow stone]

oh

thats cool

[hollow solar]

do you have mk11 sub

[snow stone]

yup f0

ye

leveling it up currently

[hollow solar]

ok

I would do

[snow stone]

what lvl he is

[hollow solar]

mk11 sub, mk11 scorp and mk11 liu

for elder

[snow stone]

i have f0 skarlet jade and noob saibot aswell

[hollow solar]

heres what to do

[snow stone]

that will be great team

[hollow solar]

ill make you a team rq

with the equipment you got

wait a bit

ill ping you

[snow stone]

alrighty

[snow stone]

u dont need lvl all u need is to make scorpion as starter

[hollow solar]

you dont have blazes life force?

[snow stone]

nope

[hollow solar]

it would really help your mk11 scorp

[snow stone]

didnt buy it

[snow stone]

do i need it fx?

[hollow solar]

do you have cruel talent thingy

[hollow solar]

nah it still gives 10 or 15% fire dmg boost at F0

when FX 25%

[snow stone]

i have the optimal talent tree from talent tree channel

[hollow solar]

mhm

Cruel affliction talent

[snow stone]

alright i'll buy it but wouldnt doll be better?

[hollow solar]

gives like 20% dmg dot boost when maxed

[hollow solar]

blazes is better

First epic i maxed from faction wars

[snow stone]

cant find it

[snow stone]

kk

[snow stone]

found it nvm

[hollow solar]

ok im making team any other questions

[snow stone]

nun

thanks for the help

[hollow solar]

k

@snow stone what does noobs rare friendship do

[hollow solar]

mhm

ok

@snow stone

on the empty slot for liu give him abbysal wraiths nightmare and on scrops rains epic friendship card

the tactic goes like this

right at start of match tag in to mk11 scorp for double fire to enemy team

and cause of lius passive enemies cant aviod his moves like assassin team and so on

[snow stone]

wouldnt 36% toughness be better than 17% max health

[hollow solar]

you can tag in mk11 liu too if you wanna snare a specific opponent

[snow stone]

for scorpion

[hollow solar]

no

makes almost 0 difference

[snow stone]

n why does lk have tin hat

[hollow solar]

is there any equipment cards that confuse you why i gave to the character

[snow stone]

elemental stones aswell

[hollow solar]

100% recovery boost and reduced 10% power on special attack

[hollow solar]

elemental stones + gladiator mask gives 100% stun resistance to sub zero and hes your weakest character so if you have to fight against tremor he wont stun sub zero on tag in and you will have a chanse to escape

[snow stone]

oh thats too specific but smart

alright

[hollow solar]

yeah cause you would prob just waste revive stones if that happends

and theyre expessive

50 souls a piece

any other equipment cards that you wanna know why are placed?

[snow stone]

nothing else tbf

but what do i put instead of blaze rn

cus i domt have it

currently

[hollow solar]

oh you dont have it?

hmm

leme scroll up rq

bloody voodoo doll

[snow stone]

kk tysm

[hollow solar]

kk try my team and tell me how it goes

and always make sure too see your oppoents equipment cards

cause its elder and the equipment cards will be either F9 or FX

so stay on your toes

[snow stone]

i'll try once the attempts reset cus i dont have invigoration stone right now

[hollow solar]

alright

tell me how it goes

[snow stone]

nvm i actually do

guess i got it from junk

[hollow solar]

very nice

good luck

[north talon]

Klassic team : Noob, smoke and rain vs MK11 team: Raiden, lui kang and scorpion who wins

[cinder lily]

Why does the classic team have gold characters?

[north talon]

Cuz that’s what I got lol

[cinder lily]

Klassic Rain MK11 Raiden mk11 Liu Kang would be your go team

[honest carbon]

W

[honest carbon]

There's nothing about breaking a bone there dam, at this point evade basic attacks

I see why ppl use reroll stone on his ass

[remote marten]

Who is mk11 fujin good with

[honest carbon]

You 👀

[honest carbon]

I would use mk11 sindel and mk11 subzero with him tbh

Wait wait wait

I just read few elder god Passives rn

Fire god liu could be nice support if u have one

[bleak shuttle]

joker , raidens and any sp1 mk11 spammer

but i heard he is bugged atm

[remote marten]

Ahhh I see thanks for the response

[snow stone]

Yeah lightning cant hurt bosses because its a DoT

[rain pebble]

tf??

how's lightning a dot??

[snow stone]

it just is, lol

[hollow obsidian]

it counts as one for the boss modifier

[cinder lily]

That belongs to kollection :u

[vernal hamlet]

the hurricane lightning is purple damage

purple damage usually classifies DOTs or “instant” damage like reflects

[honest carbon]

Was bored so I tried out north for the first time, yall can suggest me even better options to improve

[vernal hamlet]

I think Motaro exists in quest mode descriptions but that’s about it

[snow stone]

Honestly he has no chance to, his model would never work in the design space

[mystic stag]

that sucks

[cinder lily]

What it sucks more is posting that random pic here 😛

[snow stone]

Its literally about a character

What sucks more is a non mod acting like he needs to complain everytime

[cinder lily]

You can do ignore 😛

[snow stone]

You can ignore too 🙂

[cinder lily]

I'm not the one complaining about my comment

[snow stone]

Im not the one complaining about other peoples pictures

[cinder lily]

Sorry for trying to keep every channel in topic, doesn't look like you are familiarized with it

[cinder lily]

Btw back in topic, weather warfare

Instead of ice daggers

Or ice gloves if so

[remote marten]

Mfs likes you are genuinely so weird 😂

[snow stone]

Is that your job?

Also a mod was LITERALLY in convo with him

If it was a problem he woulda handled it no?

[cinder lily]

Keep yapping

[snow stone]

You know im right

[honest carbon]

I don't have it yet mane, but yea thanks

[oblique stirrup]

I didnt even know you could get golds from that

[round dew]

I need explanation on this passive

[rain pebble]

u need to know the story for that

liu kang, kung lao, jonny cage are a few of them

[round dew]

It specifies “Shang Tsung” character to be eliminated to get the power boost?

[rain pebble]

defeated him in the story

liu kang for sure did
cant remember the rest

the others i mentioned are some of the defenders of the earthrealm

[round dew]

From the old movie in 1995?

[rain pebble]

not sure if just from the movie
could be the entire story
better to ask the vets

[polar geode]

Winner of the tournament is also Goro iirc

[round dew]

the description is just so subtle :/

[wintry olive]

What's the best golden character

I have like 30 I don't even use them

[snow stone]

klassic scorpion hanzo lizard baraka johnny cp kenshi eg ,imo

[wintry olive]

Are they better than mk11 rain

I am tired of using him

And i have klassic Scorpion and kenshi

[snow stone]

rain is better , klassic scorpion is good if u spam sp1

[wintry olive]

Alright thanks gang

[snow stone]

there is more good gold cards btw
every jade is good , klassic noob klassic smok , dark raiden, tremor, traiborg sub, edening blood kitana

[autumn lily]

How good is the KLNS Kameo?
Is there a significant difference between F2 and F3?
Is it better than the free KLSZ or Kk Scorpion?

[vernal hamlet]

for kameos, fusions just affect haste and their minimal atk, unless they’re also max leveled

it’s most important to look at the effects of the specials

for noob he does have team deathmark on sp3 but I think it needs to be upgraded for the full duration

and klassic sub is most consistent just because he has shield sp3 and freeze on sp1, a freeze on demand with any team is useful for continuing combos or to bypass evades

[autumn lily]

KLNS power gain on SP2, this would affect which ever character is tagged in at the time?

[vernal hamlet]

yes

only the sp3 is team effect

buffs on sp1 or sp2 will be current character

but do keep in mind for sp1 and sp2 you do need to spend a bit of dk to upgrade them for their duration to actually work

which is why a dispel, stun, or freeze on sp1 kameo is more favored since their effects already have enough duration/don’t rely on it

[autumn lily]

I haven't done the tutorial yet.
So you need to both fusion the kameos and upgrade the SP abilities?

[vernal hamlet]

fusion for kameos is just for damage or less cooldown, it isn’t too important unless you’re taking too long in battles like for bosses

upgrading the specials is more worth but at the same time it’s still not good spending that much dk on them

[autumn lily]

I was trying to determine if the Kombat pass is worth it. Kombat+ doesn't seem like it to just get a F3 Kameo

[autumn lily]

Will KLNS SP1 Kameo trigger his ability that makes attacks unblockwbke for 10s?

[vernal hamlet]

there are 0 passives involved in kameos

which makes some kameos borderline useless

like klassic shang

[autumn lily]

That is good to know. Okay then. Kombat pass is out then.

[autumn lily]

Since there is no brutality set for Triborgs, what's the point of ascending Sketor?

[snow stone]

Stats

[autumn lily]

The boost is so small, but I get your point.

[snow stone]

🤷‍♂️

Yeah, its not worth it

Devs just doing nonsense ig

[remote marten]

i love my klassic shang

that green beam on klassic scorp sp1 spam is so hot

[honest carbon]

While I was fighting against mk11 fujin in faction wars iv realised he is not doing his special combo ender.. later iv read mk11 raidens passive this shi is crazy haha

[rain pebble]

prevent brutality and friendships

[hollow obsidian]

only brutalities

[autumn lily]

My initial thoughts were that Smoke, Cyrax, and SubZero made for the best Teiborg team.

But now I'm thinking (based solely on syergies) Sketor, Smoke, and Cyrax is the better team.

1. I'm not sure how Sib Zero frostbite helper works. Is it every other SP1 attempt? Is there a cool down timer ?

2. Sektor +30% damage and every does fire damage on SP1

3. Power drain is better than slow (though this reduces the usefulness of Smoke's passive somewhat)

[stoic breach]

triborg sub0 activates his frostbite when activating his drone

when he doesn't have his drone, he needs to do a sp1 where he activates it

[cinder lily]

Smoke can't be paired with sektor or sub-zero. Fire and Frostbite decreases current power so Smoke can't drain that power (less power to drain, less power to redistribute with teammates) Iirc

I don't recall if the power taken from fire and frostbite counts as power drain

[stoic breach]

it doesn't count

also true with the smoke part. fire or frostbite already drain opponent's bar

[autumn lily]

So it's every other SP1 ?
First SP1, frostbite
Drone goes away
Second SP1, no frostbite
Brings back drone
Third SP1, frostbite
Drone goes away
Repeat

[stoic breach]

yes

[autumn lily]

So for synergies the best team would be:
Sketor, SZ, Cyrax?

Or I guess you could do:
Smoke, Cyrax, random other support character

[stoic breach]

even if there are various triborg team combinations. imo smoke, sub0 and cyrax are strong triborg characters and the most ideal together. also because sektor's fire dot which is a common debuff would get countered more oftenly such as by healing and bosses. that is why you really want to rely on dmg from hits and debuffs that are not as common, which this team shines in

[autumn lily]

That's the setup I use now with SZ being my main fighter.

Should Smoke be the main fighter? (His SP1 builds enemy power meter than drains it giving more power to your team)

[stoic breach]

look at your opponent to see if they’re against powerdrain

if they’re, then main sub0

overall triborgs strategize well together

[cinder lily]

Assassin Kitana:
Champion's Nunchaku
Dynasty Parade Uniform / Geek Defense
Soul Medallion
Bladed Fan

Enjoy.

[honest carbon]

Ohmm

[honest carbon]

We need a new nauseous debuff for this dude

[polar geode]

If this is equiped on Reptile Klassic, does the secondary and FX effect apply on the tag in poison?

[vernal hamlet]

yup

so he can weaken in the background

you can even add the itchy suffocation uncommon from hellspawn

which then creates a chain reaction of gears

[polar geode]

Pretty powerful not gonna lie.

[vernal hamlet]

tag in poison -> chance to weaken on poison -> apply bleed on weaken

[cinder lily]

is there any equipment that apply something when bleed is applied?

[polar geode]

This makes sense. Also with gear that allows dots to hit critically (forgot the name), this could be devastating. Too bad this season doesn't have outworld feature. Else Rav mileena and kl reptile would wreak havoc.

[polar geode]

Just checked. Only damage boost from my observation

[cinder lily]

bloody finka

[autumn lily]

Can you use gold fusion up cards to ascend a gold card?

Are any of the Lizard Team considered challenge golds?

[snow stone]

Yes, and no the lizards aren't

[autumn lily]

How many fusion cards are needed to ascend? As far as I can tell I can't use them to ascend.

[snow stone]

61 total for FX to A5

It says 51 cuz hes already A1

A1: 10
A2: 11
A3: 12
A4: 13
A5: 15

[autumn lily]

Since I have less than the needed gold fusion cards that must be why it appears as though you can't use them to ascend.

[untold drift]

Something like this?

[somber hill]

Goro reptile rain or reptile rain liu or reptile rain raiden ( 3x R lol ) ?

[cinder lily]

triple R or the second one

actually any of those, just grab the ones with higher fusion

[eternal jackal]

How did my brother in law pulled mk1 smoke from mk1 smoke dk pack it was amazing 👏

[wanton copper]

This most definitely is the best most over powered diamond team ever

[eternal jackal]

Darkest knight noob saibot is harder then an event tower boss to fight 🔥

[wanton copper]

lol fr!

There’s an a impossible level combo I know with dark night noob saibot that specifically needs cyrax as a kameo and mk11 scorpion as the noob saibot twin it’s hard to do but it’s like a 30 second long combo all connecting

[snow stone]

Wait until you find out mk11 scorpion has an infinite combo with 0 support

[remote marten]

is kraken reptile any good

[wanton copper]

I alr do that lol

[wanton copper]

But I’m saying I made a combo that act doesn’t involve scorpion doing something like a inf combo

[wanton copper]

I can’t post it here since I don’t have nitro

Tell me when yall check it out I wanna know yalls reactions

[snow stone]

Sounds like a challenge to @vernal hamlet

[merry forum]

I decided to team presets every challenge in Elder
So I won't get tired of picking every character in the roster. I will delete it after I finish this.

[somber hill]

I mean which is the strongest on fx

[snow stone]

I’m trying to build this new team but idk what gear to put on it, does anyone mind helping me out lol

I can screenshot you my gear collection

I have alot

My talent tree is based on SP1 builds

[eternal jackal]

Hmm

I actually haven't touched my injustice team in awhile here's the updated look now :3

[snow stone]

Updated version

Looking for improvements on the gear

Feel free to leave some criticism

[eternal jackal]

@obsidian oracle @desert dome 🔥

[desert dome]

That's one good team

[somber hill]

How

[eternal jackal]

Really risking it all without block breakers

[obsidian oracle]

Sheesh

[snow stone]

There are block breakers...

[eternal jackal]

Yes but you could have block breaker equipment with higher chance

[eternal jackal]

I need to swap tanuki with dynasty parade uniform thanks for the heads up @cinder lily

I appreciate that because I just got tanuki epic

[cinder lily]

yeah tanuki works well in your second character, or third, just not in the starter

[stoic breach]

generally, you should have high chance block breakers. a bit of block breaker to the side for the team might help too, but it's actually not enough

it's a similar thing with combo ender chance, you want them generally and you don't want to miss

[wanton copper]

Hey why did my picture get deleted?

[cinder lily]

Because of me, The Riddler

[wanton copper]

What’s a riddler

[cinder lily]

a Batman villain

[wanton copper]

Wait a sec I tried to show my combo and you deleted it?

[honest carbon]

You gotta solve puzzles given by him, very fun character.

[autumn lily]

How good is Spawn?

[honest carbon]

8.5 for me
Cuz I have him at f1
He has the exotic debuff at sp2
When we use his 4th bar after 3 green bars fills. He gives cripple and stun. I want him st highter fusions to experiment in towers

[pliant breach]

How do I best level 190 in sorcerer's tower

[cinder lily]

what are you using (go to #🏯-towers-relic-hunt )

[vernal hamlet]

he’s just a regular member he can’t delete your messages

It was probably deleted because it was unrelated in this channel

[snow stone]

Why you askin me? Lol

[old path]

Lmfao

[sage ermine]

just switch before madness ends

don't try to fight him as chance is big that you run out of the 9 seconds

[dry stream]

I swear mk11 liu Kang is insane 💀

Fusion 0 level 26 with basic gear

[wet ridge]

What pack should I go for

[cinder lily]

divine storm

[eternal jackal]

🔥

[eternal jackal]

Fun team ngl

But nobody can top mk11 scorpion mk11 scorpion solos all bro doesn't even need a team 😭

[tulip current]

Wich kameo should i use?

[rain pebble]

depends
but among the ones u have reptile is the best imo
kl nb helps against resurrecting enemies

[tulip current]

Cool, thanks

[eternal jackal]

Klassic noob saibot

His fatal blow will deal more damage because of fusion

[vernal hamlet]

it’s like a couple hundred more points of dmg

[rain pebble]

it wont be noticeable

[eternal jackal]

Not if he gets that bad boy to level 50 and breaks some dk

[vernal hamlet]

max level for kameo is 30

and also spending dk for that is kinda a waste

[eternal jackal]

Oh yeah 💀

[eternal jackal]

In your opinion

[vernal hamlet]

in most people’s opinion

[eternal jackal]

Except mine and chess you're not a hive mind

[honest carbon]

Opening that pack is a sin neonnn

[eternal jackal]

I got him from battle pass 💀

And no it's not a sin to open kameo pack

[honest carbon]

Oke

But I still use the 2 free kameos they gave

[vernal hamlet]

basically could live off of em forever

[eternal jackal]

Chess listen up its not a waste to invest dk into a kameo it's actually refreshing

Once you've gotten your equipments and character cards at high fusion its nice to have something else to work on

[vernal hamlet]

there’s always characters and equipments to work on before kameos

[eternal jackal]

But I like kameos so....

[vernal hamlet]

there would be less than 1% of the playerbase who would have those maxed and then can work on kameos

[vernal hamlet]

well that’s fine

but saying it’s a worth investment over summon packs is

[eternal jackal]

They'll still exist even if you don't chess

[vernal hamlet]

I have nimble reptile upgraded so it’s not like I don’t do it

[vernal hamlet]

what does that have to do with them existing

[eternal jackal]

No I meant if you don't think kameos are worth investing they'll still be in the game

[vernal hamlet]

oh that’s something fenix should hear about

[eternal jackal]

Spend dk on high chance for resell or invest in kameo fighter hmm

[eternal jackal]

We were talking just you and me 😂

[vernal hamlet]

kaskets also exist

guaranteed fusion

or unowned

[eternal jackal]

Kaskets are expensive

[vernal hamlet]

but consistent

and dk has gotten easier to get

if you mean fully investing in a kameo by getting fusions on them, good luck with that

huge pool of combined total of over 100 characters

[eternal jackal]

It's easy to get dk so spending dk on kameo shouldn't be a waste

Kameos are useful and I'm tired of pretending they're not useful >:v

Worth dk

[eternal jackal]

It can't hurt to try