🤼-characters-and-teams

[hollow obsidian]

fgb didn't get reworked twice

[vernal hamlet]

this would get me into the philosophy of what a basic attack is

[hollow obsidian]

it was a qol change

[fickle star]

Sonya gloves just need to apply despair that's it

[vernal hamlet]

so a combo ender is a basic attack

except when it isn’t for certain pieces

a tag in attack can be a basic attack

except when it isn’t for modifiers like shielded

except kl raiden

[hollow obsidian]

basic attacks are:
-basic attacks
-combo enders
-throwables
-scorpion's leg huggings

[snow stone]

Stop making so much sense chess

[hollow obsidian]

idk if missile gap is a basic

[snow stone]

Except when they arent

[vernal hamlet]

that’s a good thought

however

liu nunchaku assist

is a basic attack

except it counts as a tag in

vs dk noob

whereas cleaver and psych bomb dont

[snow stone]

Cleaver pogged up

[vernal hamlet]

so liu fireball is a tag in attack that is a basic attack

[hollow obsidian]

does the fireball come during the effect on the opponent during the tag in?

[vernal hamlet]

yes, but it also lingers if far away

[snow stone]

Also the fireball is casted from the person tagging out, and not the person tagging in, but also its liu kangs damage

[vernal hamlet]

however if psych bomb/cleaver and nunchaku are both hitting dk noon at the same time while the anti tag visual is up

[snow stone]

I managed to get the double kill with cleaver basic into fireball already flying in, pretty funny

[vernal hamlet]

the 2 throwables hit him but nunchaku misses

[vernal hamlet]

there is one good thing about cleaver being non lethal

I can actually do this

[hollow obsidian]

where bat?

[vernal hamlet]

bat doesn’t work well because it needs to travel fully

unless it’s different with other eg character sp2

if I tag out while bat is even 90% about to hit the opponent it disappears, which doesn’t work if I want all projectiles to hit the opponent at the same time

[hollow obsidian]

i would use it in that set up bcs kl raiden's passive still hits even while the opponent's is grounded

[polar geode]

Only 8 so far.

[snow stone]

@vernal hamlet of course shao kahn ruined my clip...

[vernal hamlet]

he said what he had to say, you suck

[snow stone]

@vernal hamlet did you know you can cancel spawns ability?

[honest carbon]

😂

[devout turtle]

@snow stone have 7 epic fuses and 467dk now, still away from target by 33fuses or 5k dk (i just hope i get taira clan f3 at that time so i can fx it instead of weaver/reaper)

[honest carbon]

This might be the strat for the normal krypt record @snow stone

Still 1 bar left too

[old path]

#🗡-kollection

Post their

[snow stone]

Seems decent

[vernal hamlet]

yea

I said he could miss his ability from far away

about medium distance or so

[snow stone]

What a silly goose

[desert dome]

@snow stone

Tada

@hearty arch

[snow stone]

Aw no rain is so sad after make it rain pack😅

But uh id go shang, scorpion and sonya

[desert dome]

😭😭😭

After 20 SHAOLIN PACKS

[hearty arch]

Dam

[desert dome]

Not one rain or Raiden.. all golds + my 1st copy of klassic liu Kang

[hearty arch]

They sindel and rain prob 1 of ur best golds

[desert dome]

I got Lizard baraka

He good?

[hearty arch]

Ye

He's amazing too

[desert dome]

I got lizard jade as well

Lizard team incoming 😂

[hearty arch]

I love, klassic rain, klassic raiden, klassic liu kang

Or swap klassic rain with klassic reptile

[desert dome]

I really want klassic Raiden then imma pair him up with klassic scorpion and liu Kang if I do get him

[torpid seal]

Rate this team? I'm kinda enjoying this team alot

[hearty arch]

Ye klassic scorpion also one of the best golds

[desert dome]

I think it's better for you to have a support unit like mk11 Shang Tsung or mk 11 Sub zero

[hearty arch]

Ye

Or sindel

[desert dome]

I'm prolly not the right person to ask for advice

As I started a week ago

[hearty arch]

I've been rocking sindel she's not rlly support but she's good for starting comboe

She has tsun

Stun

Ability

[torpid seal]

OK, is there any team I can use the Noob on? I just wanna save him to a team at least.

[hearty arch]

Do u got subzero or shang

[snow stone]

All of them

[desert dome]

Yeah noob is really OP

I think

[snow stone]

It is

[desert dome]

I got cooked against him in fw

😭

[hearty arch]

BRO SAME

I vsee him liek 12 hrs qgo

[desert dome]

He just wouldn't DIE

[snow stone]

The only thing noob lacks is raw dps, but he has everything else going for him

[hearty arch]

I still won but cooked me

[desert dome]

Anyone down to make a team for me?

[hearty arch]

Can sm1 rate my team

The one on the left

[desert dome]

Sheesh

U got klassic rain

W

[hearty arch]

Ty

Is it good

[hearty arch]

Sure

Leme see ur cards

[desert dome]

My diamond and gold

Collection

[hearty arch]

Ok so first obviously klass liu kang

Klassic smoke

There's so much good characters so it's hard to choose between 3

U could also do edenian sindel

[desert dome]

Make a team team

Good one 😭

[hearty arch]

Leme give u 2 team

Liu kang klass smoke sindel

Liu Kang mk11 scarlet edenian blood rain

Choose either one

[desert dome]

Thanks

[north talon]

Good?

[torpid seal]

wait so I can just use this Noob in the current team I'm using?

[snow stone]

Yeah why not

[torpid seal]

Thank you sheep!

[desert dome]

Bro bro

Any changes to this team?

[native plover]

use scorpion as a main

kl scorpion has sp1 unblockable

[snow stone]

Yeah shang is support

You dont really want him tagged in often

[desert dome]

Ok

I also wanna use liu Kang

But he's not fusion 1 or anything

[snow stone]

Liu kang doesnt have good synergy with shang

[native plover]

keep this team atm

[desert dome]

Hmmm

Ok

[snow stone]

Liu kang is good in like every other klassic team

[native plover]

there's also this fact

[desert dome]

Think I should take out smoke for sonya

[native plover]

nope

smoke is better

since smoke gives to the whole team resistance to debuffs

[desert dome]

May I ask why

I started the game a week ago

[native plover]

this reason

[desert dome]

Oh ok

I'm using a klassic team cos I wanna experiment

I have a good mk11 team

[native plover]

mk11 team is also good

[desert dome]

All my MK11 character

[snow stone]

I just like playing sonya, but smoke reflection is pretty good

[native plover]

i also like her, she saves my ass in towers lol

[snow stone]

When they finally fix smoke ill like him even more lol

[native plover]

smoke is so fun to play

tbh i prefer klassics over mk11s

[snow stone]

He basically got nerfed for no reason, and the bugs been around way to long

[desert dome]

MK1 SMOKE PACK 😭😭

OMG

OKG

OMG

GUYS

AHHHHHHHHHHHH

[snow stone]

Lol

[desert dome]

WHAT SHALL I DO

[desert dome]

Can anyone make me a klassic or a mk11 team?

[low seal]

i mean for klassic team just make one around scorpion

since hes highest fusion

do like klassic scorp raiden and shang tsung

[desert dome]

No klassic liu Kang?

Is he needed or nah?

[low seal]

you can replace shang tsung or raiden with liu kang if you want

[desert dome]

But idk about the synergy or who is better

[low seal]

shang tsung is really good with scorp

every time you s1 you get healing and damage

[desert dome]

Is that for Shang Tsung or Scorp?

[low seal]

you can also use klassic rain s2 on shang tsung team soak and apply bleed whole team with klassic scorp

[low seal]

scorpion

[desert dome]

I don't have klassic rain

[low seal]

shang tsung s2 allows you to use other special 2

read the passive

[desert dome]

Ohhh ok

[low seal]

your mk11 team is already really stacked

and it should be able to carry you for now

[desert dome]

Hmmmm ok

I just wanted to try something diff

I got really lucky today

[low seal]

did you open summon packs or smth?

[desert dome]

Yeah bro spent all my dk on

Smoke

[low seal]

nice

[desert dome]

Packs

😭

[low seal]

how long you played for?

[desert dome]

A week 😭😭😭

[low seal]

crazy

you already got insane characters

[desert dome]

Thanks bro

I love Tap Joy as well

[low seal]

klassic scorpion easily top 3 golds

in the game

[desert dome]

They give a lotta souls

[desert dome]

Definitely bro

This is gonna be my go to team

It's more fun than my MK11 one lol

@low seal thanks bro

[low seal]

nw

have fun grinding

[desert dome]

Is it better for me to use smoke or Shang Tsung?

[north talon]

Smoke blind effect nice

[polar geode]

Smoke, scorp, shang combo nice if you do spear spam since shang helps in SP1.

[opaque rain]

good team or i should change something?

[simple depot]

anybody i should change?

[opaque rain]

mk11 scorpion, lk/shang, sub-zero

[simple depot]

i dont got subzero

[opaque rain]

kabal

[polar geode]

Its a good team. Noob enhances damage. He has death mark so that's nice. Jade heals on DoTs. Overall a great team.

According to situation switch teams.

MK11 Liu Kang can replace Noob saibot and MK11 Subzero can replace Jade. That's a team that can't go wrong.

This team will get you fairly high in the towers.

If you have Sindel, she can give you 25% block break chance on basic hits (to netherealm and to MK11s).

Use this team for now until you get other MK11s.

[opaque rain]

i hate sindel

[simple depot]

i got the other mk11s to

what about this?

[polar geode]

If she is on your team, she can stun loop constantly. She has 3 counter attacks. If you have her rare Femme Fatal Comb, she gets 1 extra attack (one more on FX) - so with 5 screams, she is superb.

[polar geode]

Good team. Anti-stun, fire, Cripple, Unblockable SPs, bleed, tag in guarantee hit and power drain. Overall great synergy. If you have good gear on them it is an awesome team. Kabal is mostly support.

[simple depot]

nice

[polar geode]

There is a gear that applies Snare on scorpion's SP1. You can loop with Kabal and Scorpion. Can be insane at high fusion.

But pretty bad when facing modifiers with DoTs.

[opaque rain]

slow attacks, bad combos, bad sp1, dying in 15 seconds 💀

and screaming

[polar geode]

Hmmm you need to learn how to play her. She is a really good support

[lean shoal]

i also have m11 raiden and classic jax briggs aswell

[polar geode]

Lizard baraka is OP during the beginner gametime - atleast a month or two. Will carry you

Liu kang and klassic rain also OP

[lean shoal]

so i use them 3

[lean shoal]

who do i focus on baraka?

[cinder lily]

Yeah the thing is she's not a support

She's a fighter / damage dealer

[polar geode]

With a beginner account with nothing on it - she can be a good support When my account was beginner, not having to use an extra block breaker while she is on the team helped immensely in tower.

Also in the conversation there is context, Sir.

[onyx hill]

Ughhh

[polar geode]

MK11 Liu Kang. Also Lizard Jade, and baraka with another gold is good team for krypt/challenges/normal towers.

You need more characters to make teams that have more synergy overall.

[onyx hill]

Guys

[polar geode]

Yo

[inner delta]

Hm?

[onyx hill]

Is injustice raiden good ? Imean it’s kinda strong though

[polar geode]

He is bro.

[onyx hill]

Thanks man

[polar geode]

Use him with Klassic Team in boss fights. He can wreak havoc. Very good kit overall. One of the best diamonds in the game.

[onyx hill]

But not now bcs i just got him 1 h ago

And i got a better gold team

However, thanks

[polar geode]

Hmmm just make sure to utilize weak point attacks. He keeps snaring the enemy. Its really good.

[onyx hill]

👍

[surreal sky]

Let's goo

Edenian blood team complete

[honest carbon]

W bolte bhaiiiiii

[honest carbon]

He's soo good

[cyan elm]

I think you need some data

[vernal hamlet]

I curse you with PROFILE OUT OF SYNC

[cyan elm]

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

Bruh

[random sundial]

Yes or no

[ocean zinc]

i got mk11 liu kang

[surreal sky]

Haan bhai

[honest carbon]

That kick caught me off guard lol

[vernal hamlet]

yea the friendship epic piece

she does it randomly with no warning and the camera angle becomes weird

[snow stone]

I wouldnt say randomly but

[vernal hamlet]

it is literally random, if you mean the fact that you have to first choose to tag out

yea ok man

[snow stone]

I mean I just wouldnt call a button activated ability random thats all lol, even if its only a chance

[polar geode]

Inj 2 raiden imo

[north talon]

Should I use all my level ups on him?

[snow stone]

No

[coarse vessel]

Mk11 lui he’s better at high fusions mk11 scorp is already god like

[snow stone]

You should only use level up cards to go for 50 to 60

[desert dome]

Hmmmm

[fickle star]

Get mk11 scorpion f4

[north talon]

So I just hold on to them

[fickle star]

And level up your other diamonds

[snow stone]

Yep

43 to 50 isnt gonna be game changing

[desert dome]

Hmmm what shall I do?

[snow stone]

What draco said

[desert dome]

Ok

[rotund flare]

Liu mk

[desert dome]

I'll have a few left over

[fickle star]

Keep them for when other diamonds reach f3

[desert dome]

Are mk1 characters good?

They look Hella fun to use

[old path]

Yes

[desert dome]

I have mk1 Shang, mileena, Scorp and smoke

[desert dome]

Any tips for leveling up my diamonds fast?

[fickle star]

Just play faction wars with them

[fickle star]

They are

Use scorpion, smoke and kenshi together

[desert dome]

Btw I got my first fusion X cards 2 actually. Kombat cup Johnny and Sonya

Gold ones

I opened so much kombat cup packs 😭😭😭 lol

[desert dome]

Sounds good 💯

[desert dome]

Is battle mode better?

[fickle star]

No

[desert dome]

Btw I like Klassic characters a lot

Hence why I have klassic Raiden fusion V ( I got very lucky in the packs he was in )

[fickle star]

Rain, liu, raiden

Shang, smoke, scorpion

[fickle star]

Even if in here you'd be better off using hellspawn scorpion instead of klk

[desert dome]

I don't even have him

[fickle star]

When you get him

[desert dome]

Okkkk

Are the klassic teams you mentioned better than my mk11 team with Scorp, liu Kang and sub zero?

[desert dome]

Thanks for your help

[fickle star]

Not every klassic has a synergy with other klassics so i just went for the ones that make sense together

[desert dome]

Ohhh ok

So my MK11 team is still the best for me

[rain pebble]

new player

[cinder lily]

Updated tier list (personal opinion)

[snow stone]

L

[snow stone]

Bro how does fujin make it when he doesnt work on bosses

[cinder lily]

he went down from top 3 to top 7 wdym

[snow stone]

Hes not top of anything now

Thats wild

[cinder lily]

his lighting reply may not work but the hurricane itself (shield break/slow/cripple) still works?

[snow stone]

Hurricane aint that good lol

[cinder lily]

idk I rather to have the boss taking more damage and being cripple and slow

[snow stone]

That damage boost barely makes up the time loss, and cripple is really accessible

I dno its just not top 7 to me at all

[cinder lily]

good you aren't me

[snow stone]

I mean I cant think of a single time applying hurricane is faster

Even before it was bugged

[cinder lily]

my set was hurricane + noble tread to apply snare

and then, destroy the boss

[snow stone]

Im not saying its bad ofc

But that high would to me = the best in slot at something which I just dont see anymore

[cinder lily]

again thats why it's a personal list

i.e my Fatal Edenian team includes fujin even when I know his hurricane's lightning reply doesn't work

[snow stone]

Well whatever floats your boat, im just certain thats slower now

[dense anvil]

Is fujin good or nah

[cinder lily]

Nightwolf Liu Kang jade

[snow stone]

Alr ty

[polar geode]

Smoke, scorp, shangtshung is a sp1 spam team. A pretty good one.

[glossy galleon]

Alright thank you

[glossy galleon]

For an mk11 team,(I have All of them) which would make the best team?

[surreal sky]

Ngl that looks cool

[polar geode]

Scorpion, liu kang, subzero/jade/rain

[dense anvil]

Yo can I have some help?

[polar geode]

Yes bro

[polar geode]

How can I help

[dense anvil]

In the krypt, the wolf badge how can I obtain it?

I know u need to use all 3 same charcters but does it need to be in a specific mode or u need to do something?

To get it?

[polar geode]

I randomly got it using 3 kenshis. I think you shouldn't use any xrays.

I don't know if the requirement for Wolf Badge is 100% confirmed as a whole.

[dense anvil]

Achievable in normal?

[polar geode]

I think so. But you can't get S i think.

[dense anvil]

I’ve just finished up, I’ll lyk if I got it

[polar geode]

Okay.

[surreal sky]

Is the open 60 summon packs trial unlimited?

[glossy galleon]

No only the first time

But every 60 pack openings

In dragon Krystal shop gets you a free mk1 character

Not sure if it’ll be around forever

[glossy galleon]

Ight bet thank you

[surreal sky]

The trial says 3000 days something

[polar geode]

That's when the game server will be shut down forever 😭

Jk

[surreal sky]

Damn mk 1 scorpion is fast

[glossy galleon]

Does mk11 subzero or mk11 rain have more potential

I have them both at tier 0

[glossy galleon]

I got him a while back but I’m yet to actually use him yet

[surreal sky]

Yes they do

[surreal sky]

Nice

[glossy galleon]

Mb I meant like which out of the 2 has more potential

[surreal sky]

Rain ig

[glossy galleon]

Ok thank you

[snow stone]

What's the best cyborg team?

[surreal sky]

Guys can mk 1 scorpion be synergised with mk 11 characters?

[high widget]

Maybe with Martial Artist ones

MK1 Scorpion alone will benefit

[surreal sky]

Ohk

So mk1 scorpion with mk11 sub and Scorpion?

[half zephyr]

I like mk1 kenshi

[surreal sky]

Will be good ?

[high widget]

Yeah

His bar will fill up faster

[half zephyr]

They finally changed his fighting style

[high widget]

I absolutely hate his movements in MK1

[half zephyr]

I love it

I hate mk1 smoke

[high widget]

Especially the taunts and match over ones

[half zephyr]

I just got him from krypt

[half zephyr]

I was expecting more ninja way

I am disappointed with mk1 smoke

I used 600 dragon crystals which I saved for him

But I didn't get him

[eternal jackal]

This team more cooked than a bucket of fried chicken 🔥

[polar geode]

Is this a good build for MK11 Scorpion

[eternal jackal]

It's good yes :3

I always use varmint lucky hat and tag in scorpion

[torpid seal]

Which team is better

[polar geode]

Hmm I use that on Liu Kang.

[eternal jackal]

Why not equip rocking blowing stones on a different fighter instead of two block breakers on mk11 scorpion :0

[eternal jackal]

The team with liu

[polar geode]

That makes sense. But its f2 I think 17% chance to block break.

[eternal jackal]

Oooo ight :3

[polar geode]

If only I could get another copy, i can fuse it to F5. Where does it drop from?

[eternal jackal]

Klassic tower 😄

[polar geode]

Oh my. Thats sad. I gotta wait a lot I guess

Guys can yall recommend some gears for KL Rain, KL Liu Kang and KL Raiden team?

[eternal jackal]

Divine tornadic pauldron and divine argus cloak for klassic rain and any block breaker 50 percent reduced power cost on special attack 2. Champion leather bracelets would be clutch on mk11 liu kang and a 50 percent reduced power cost on his special attack 2 block breaker since both him and klassic rain can snare on sp2.

[desert dome]

Can anyone make me a klassic team for Raiden?

[desert dome]

@fast jay

[eternal jackal]

Sorry for the late response was brain storming @polar geode here's one I did :3

[desert dome]

That team looks cool I can make a team

Like that I think

[polar geode]

Thanks bro

[desert dome]

I can make this team but my klassic RAIN is fusion 1

Lol

[fast jay]

Woww

[eternal jackal]

W team

[desert dome]

It might sound crazy but I started 6 days ago

[desert dome]

Tap joy became my best friend bruh 😭

[eternal jackal]

That x2.5 thooo

[desert dome]

It's 🔥🔥

[fast jay]

Is tapjoy real? I'm lazy, bcs i think the quest hard😭

[eternal jackal]

Yes it's real hopefully you have no issues

[desert dome]

Oh it's real the offers are real but they are low-key time consuming fr

[desert dome]

Is it true some people haven't received their souls even after doing a tap joy offer?

[fast jay]

What the best offer you recommended? Maybe i want try later

[desert dome]

Find one that you can do easily I'm not the expert here 😅

[opaque rain]

mk11 fujin, fire god lk + kl raiden

best team for him

[fast jay]

What offer are you doing before?

[desert dome]

Mk11 Fujin? How will that work ( I have him at fusion 4 btw )

[opaque rain]

he has cripple after performing combo

he is op

[desert dome]

I'm still looking 😅.

[opaque rain]

or just inj2 raiden

[desert dome]

Ok I'll use that team in faction wars thank u

[desert dome]

He's my dream diamond bro

I opened the packs he was in and I got all golds and only 1 copy of klassic liu Kang ( my 1st copy )

[opaque rain]

i got him but i need mk11 scorp, not him

[opaque rain]

bro i did open 60 packs and i havent got mk11 scorpion

[desert dome]

Btw I don't think I have fire god liu kang

[opaque rain]

this game is trolling me

[desert dome]

Yeah I don't have that liu Kang

[opaque rain]

without fg lk this team is useless because block breaker

[desert dome]

😭😭😭

I just need good team with my boy kl Raiden

[opaque rain]

kl scorp, kl lk + kl raiden then

[desert dome]

I have been using this team

[opaque rain]

this team is good too

[desert dome]

But is klassic lk better than Shang

[cinder lily]

Jade Sub-Zero Liu Kang

[opaque rain]

kl scorpion + cripple is op

[desert dome]

Where is the cripple

[opaque rain]

enemy cant escape

[desert dome]

Coming from

[opaque rain]

from kl lk

[eternal jackal]

Yes

[desert dome]

What can they do then?

[eternal jackal]

Unfortunately

[opaque rain]

i havent got my 10 souls i played a game 5 hours 😭

[eternal jackal]

Contact support or something should be an option to contact support

[desert dome]

Imagine a person spent like $19 for a tapjoy offer and they haven't received their souls. I would crash out 😭

Imagine this happened

[eternal jackal]

5 hours for 10 souls is crazy

[desert dome]

😭😭😭

[opaque rain]

i thought i will get 2k souls easily but its too hard 😭😭🤧

i played 5 hours in ant game 😭

[desert dome]

💀💀💀

[onyx hill]

I will leave this game

I wont play it anymore…

[polar geode]

Why bro

[onyx hill]

Man

I lost my account

And i dont feeling like to start it again

[cinder lily]

how do you lose it ._. didn't you have WBID?

[honest carbon]

Lizard baraka lvl50 finally

Need f3 for noob tho

[rose beacon]

Maybe he switched platforms

Its how I lost mine

Well I still have it I just cant use it😭

[dense anvil]

I’ve lost so many accounts

I feel u

[rose beacon]

You can have mine if you are on android

If I cant use it then might as well

[onyx hill]

Nah im on iphone

[rose beacon]

Ah nvm then

[surreal sky]

🫡

[rose beacon]

Yeah they use different servers for different platfor

Platforms**

[onyx hill]

Thanks for your help

[rose beacon]

I sent em an email and its what they said

[rose beacon]

All good man

[dense anvil]

guys

can I get mkm on my MacBook?

[rose beacon]

I know its possible but its up to publishers if they allow it

So idk about mkm

Would make sense for WB to allow it

[honest carbon]

+1 Bar at the start of match for MA
+1 Bar at the start of match for Spec ops

Note sliver kenshi is MA and Spec ops

Crown of Mind control applies incureability for the whole team so it counted as 3 times at once

@snow stone rate this strat man

[snow stone]

Just use it on cos kung lao

[honest carbon]

I don't have him
Anyways I'm trying to make strategies as intermediate friendly as possible

[snow stone]

I mean, having lao F0 isnt really that tall of an ask imo, but sure

[honest carbon]

Ok sheep

[brave bison]

Hmm it does work..

[opaque rain]

Top 5 gold characters

1. Onslaught Jaxx Briggs
2. Lizard Baraka
3. Onslaught Sub-zero
4. Kombat Cup Johnny Cage
5. Klassic Scorpion

in my opinion

[cinder lily]

In my opinion, Jade > Baraka

[opaque rain]

lizard jade top 12

[snow stone]

Jade best gold in the game tbh

[vocal kraken]

edenian kitana might be the best kitana... that ignore button is funny. oh fighter comes in all hyper and starts a combo? ignore-fu.

[random sundial]

Recommend team?

[fickle star]

Mk11 scorpion, sub0, noob

[cinder lily]

mk11 sindel, noob, kabal

or sub instead of kabal

[molten sand]

Lost my old account and just started a new one, which 3 should I use?

[desert dome]

@cinder lily

[cinder lily]

yeah that's fine

[desert dome]

This fine for faction wars?

[cinder lily]

yeah

[desert dome]

Can I take out liu kang for klassic Raiden?

Or shall I keep it as it is?

[desert dome]

?

@cinder lily

[cinder lily]

you wanted fire god liu team ...

[desert dome]

Yeah yeah ofc

I was just thinking

But thank u

[cinder lily]

but yeah you can replace liu with klassic raiden

[desert dome]

If I replace liu, do I keep Tanya?

[cinder lily]

idk bro what do you wanna do xd

[desert dome]

😅😭

[hearty arch]

Can sm1 make a team

[fickle star]

Sindel, jade, liu

[hearty arch]

What abt klass rain

[eternal jackal]

Level those yea bois up in battle mode

[cinder lily]

No

[honest carbon]

Bro I died laughing 😂

Run away 🏃‍♂️

[surreal sky]

Mortal Kombat ❌Run Awayyyyyy✅

[polar geode]

Bro that's why I hate kabal with a passion

[snow stone]

Whats the best team to get as a starter?

[honest carbon]

"Low fusions? Sounds like skill issue 🤡"

Mean while kabals : 🗿

[opaque rain]

sindel, krypt characters with equipment, kl smoke, mk11 fujin, raidens: skill issue

[honest carbon]

I don't get if you are making fun or what

[surreal sky]

First friendship letss gooo

[light marlin]

Mk11 scorp, strike force scorp and jade mk11

[honest carbon]

Mk11 scorpion
Mk11 jade
Mk11 liu

Ya got f2 mk11 liu pls lvl him up

[light marlin]

I got f10 mk11 liu😔

This equips with cos f10 kung Lao

[honest carbon]

KING LAO IS HARD TBH DONT EDIT NEXT TIME 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶

[honest carbon]

Same

[light marlin]

I might put hammer on him

So he can start with fatal below

Yk

Team I’m running with him

[light marlin]

Nah I said king Kai😭😭

[inner delta]

Kwt set up lookin?

[honest carbon]

Lethal

[opaque rain]

what i should pick?

[honest carbon]

Critical damage from boraichao mmmm

Is it critical chance or damage?

[opaque rain]

chance

hit

[honest carbon]

Ermac removes 10% health for all opponents
Well boraichao has critical chance

[opaque rain]

and rain 1 power bar

[honest carbon]

He gives it to the team too?

[opaque rain]

yeah

[honest carbon]

Use klassic ermac for boss battles cuz you cannot give dots for boss but soul siphon

In General go for boraichao or rain, I hope I get klassic liu, cuz he applies cripple on tag in tag out

[opaque rain]

for krypt?

[honest carbon]

Sure, klassic scorpion carries in any fusion from what iv heard so far

[opaque rain]

i mean what i should pick for krypt

[honest carbon]

Go with ermac well help at the boss battles, skip battles with modifiers with "unbalanced or empowered" they can be lethal cuz your stats are low now.

A the end you are skipping only 2 battles, don't worry about hearts from that battles since they started to give maximum hearts now

[viscid peak]

summon 🙂

[cyan elm]

Didnt klassic ermac get nerfed

[snow stone]

Can someone help me build my team and equipment

[light marlin]

I can

[snow stone]

Alr this is my team so far idk if its good tho so im looking to make it better through the stuff i already have and my gears and stuff

[light marlin]

Ok

[snow stone]

Ill show u all my characters if u want

[light marlin]

Yea show me all

[snow stone]

Ok

[light marlin]

Is Jason your only f10 gold?

[snow stone]

Ya i was grinding him for krypt and surviving in faction

Bc he gains health on his sp2

Anyways this is my collection iv been playing for abt a year or 2 so idk if its good

[light marlin]

Show me the full lineup

[snow stone]

I also have no clue on what characters i should invest my coins into

[light marlin]

I recommend upgrading kombat kup Johnny

And I would use diamond reptile along with mk11 scorpion and make a dot team

Kombat kub johnny can take you a long way

[snow stone]

Ik but wouldn't u need good gears to

Which i dont have

😭

Idk what gears to put on scorpion

[light marlin]

Oh

Let me see

Your gears

[snow stone]

Ok

[light marlin]

I’ve been playing for 6 years

[snow stone]

Dang

My gears btw

And this is the team im looking at right?

Ill show u the gears i have on scorpion

[light marlin]

Ok your gears are pretty good

remove shadow sash

[snow stone]

Ok

[light marlin]

Put a unblockable gear instead or a blaze

[snow stone]

Which one any?

[light marlin]

You have blood?

[snow stone]

Uh

Ill check

[light marlin]

or use bladed fan

It don’t matter just have to be unblockable

[snow stone]

Ok

[light marlin]

You have blaze fx use that too and remove kunai

Put bladed fan in sword slot

And blaze life force in extra

Dots gonna go crazy

[snow stone]

There?

[light marlin]

Yes

That

[snow stone]

Ok ok

Now onto reptile

I have no gear for him

[light marlin]

That’s fine just use unblockable gear

[snow stone]

Ok

[light marlin]

you have any invunelrable equips?

[snow stone]

Ill check

Only these lol

Btw reptile is better then classic Liu Kang i heard hes really good?

[cinder lily]

I hate when people post kollection here

like bro, just MOVE YOUR EYES THERE'S A WHOLE CHANNEL CALLED KOLLECTION TO POST YOUR SCREENS

[snow stone]

[surreal sky]

Guys how is this scorpion build?

[snow stone]

@light marlin did u give up 😭

[light marlin]

Kinda😭

[polar geode]

Maybe use some more block gear that has power gen or buff duration like Tribal Headband or something

[snow stone]

Lol

[polar geode]

@surreal sky if you are using other char with block break support, then it is fine. If you pair him with LK or Jade, no need for that extra snare.

[snow stone]

Ya i honestly dont know what to use ima just use the character that help me ig @light marlin

[polar geode]

No. LK better always.

[snow stone]

I knew it but idk

He told me to put reptile on my team

[polar geode]

Depends. If it is a DoT team, ravenous mileena and reptile are good but against teams that can resist DoTs or against bosses, LK is always better. He is immune to DoTs, he has a powerful SP2 and cripple on tag + he is a great fighter.

[snow stone]

Ya this is my team he helped me make

I didn't ever think Kombat cup cage was good or even reptile

[polar geode]

This team has no synergy. What's your purpose? I ses you got better cards in your kollection

[snow stone]

Idk i was just copying off what he said to better my team

[polar geode]

Mk11 Scorpion goes good in a few configurations

Liu kang, scorpion, subzero - All three fighter, LK is a great support with his passive, subzero can support with revive.

Liu kang, scorpion, jade - against teams that have dots, jade can heal.

Scorpion, reptile, ravenous mileena - if you want to melt opponents quickly with fire, poison and bleed.

..

Kombat cup johnny pairs nicely with a Kombat cup sonya and covert ops cassie so you dont need that extra block breaking gear due to co cassie passive.

Klassic Smoke, klassisc scorpion and klassic shang is a really good debuff + sp1 spam team

Klassic liu kang just fits in anywhere. Build the team to support him.

Mk11 team can be liu kang, subzero with kabal or sindel as well. Sindel also works with mk11 scorpion.

@snow stone

[snow stone]

Oh

[polar geode]

Build your MK11 Scorpion for the SP1 spam which is easy for beginner, at least 50% block break for combos, anything that boost damage of sp1 or power generation.

[snow stone]

So how do u think my team should go?

Scorpion and classic liu kang?

[polar geode]

I have given you a few teams. Now you gotta try them out and feel them. Use the one that feels great to use. There is no one universal team structure. Its more about what synergies you need and the purpose. If you cant afford to die, use subzero mk11 team that has two free revives, once for each member. If you need to heal from DoTs, use the one with Jade. If you want to remove stun or you go against guaranteed stunners like Circle of Shadow Liu Kang, use mk11 kabal. It all depends on the enemy you face and the game mode you are in.

[snow stone]

Oh okay

What gear should i have for them?

Btw this is my gear for subzero

[polar geode]

Again depends. Block breaker is a must. HP is not really a priority. Maybe you can have debuff resistance gear or power generation or any form of attack damage boost gear.

This is my MK11 team preset build around mk11 scorpion and his sp1+combo enders.

[snow stone]

Oh thats cool

[polar geode]

This is alright but you will suffer without block break gear

They will keep. Blocking your basics and specials. Do. You know. How to do half combos and spam sp1/sp2?

[snow stone]

Uh i dont think so

This is the team i made btw

[hollow obsidian]

Replace blaze on scorpion

[snow stone]

I dont have alot of good gears ^

[hollow obsidian]

Blaze is wasted on scorpion

[polar geode]

This.

[snow stone]

See

[hollow obsidian]

• it's a starter equipment and scorpion is not a starter

[snow stone]

Thats all my gears

[polar geode]

Use another block breakers

[snow stone]

So switch out blaze for block breaker?

[polar geode]

Yeah until you get better gear

Also on subzero, you can use 1 block breaker

[snow stone]

Ok

[snow stone]

What gear should i switch out then

[polar geode]

Its upto you.

You have to read all the gear details

[cinder lily]

that's a really bad team lol

why scorpion as starter, why does he have hellfire blade, why double block breaker lol

[light marlin]

Bro woke up on the floor 😭🙏

[flint ravine]

I am using a injustice 2 raiden + klassic movie raiden + onslaught fujin team, and as someone who likes elder gods and a casual to the game, this is a good team

Especially onslaught fujin that guy is underrated

Also like cuz I like fujin as a character but anyway

[snow stone]

Is mk1 smoke worth it from the krypt season? I'll have him f0 but idk if he's good at f0

[cinder lily]

He's okay but will you miss the chance of getting him for free? Who knows when he's gonna return

[snow stone]

True I've been spamming his dk pack

Bought like 30+ still haven't got em

[cinder lily]

That's why

[snow stone]

Why what?

[cinder lily]

That's why you should try to get him from krypt

[snow stone]

Ah

And use the rest of the dks on equipment packs I'm guessing

[cinder lily]

Yep

[turbid lantern]

Can Klassic Sub-Zero and Noob benefit from multiple SP2 effects from equipment? If I was using something like Shintai of the North would I apply Frostbite on the first check and potentially Freeze them on a second check? 99% sure you can't.

[cinder lily]

Right, you can't. The effect will be applied once the chain is finished @turbid lantern

[turbid lantern]

Darn.

[polar geode]

Its just in the preset liu kang goes first. Also the second block break also has increased duration for cripple (tribal headband fx), revolver has extra crit hit chance. Hellfire blade so I have enough power as soon as I tag in to start spamming sp1s + 20% dot damage boost.

If it works for me, its not bad. I have completed multiple fatal towers with the build, multiple times.

I have mentioned to the guy I am giving suggestions that he can do what feels good even not asking him to copy my build or something. So don't need your opinion when not necessary. Thanks.

[opaque rain]

Guys i got all triborgs, which 3 i should pick?

[polar geode]

Subzero is so good

[brave bison]

Smoke
Subzero
Yellow triborg

This is the best gold team to exist
..just do sp 1 again and again
See the magic ✨

[opaque rain]

idk but noob can spam sp1

[turbid lantern]

I asked about SP2 for Sub and Noob because of their unique nature.

[polar geode]

Scorp, Sub, liu kang

[opaque rain]

i need block breaker

[polar geode]

Then Sindel.

[opaque rain]

i have no equipment

[opaque rain]

with who?

[polar geode]

Use sindel for 25% block break chance. Scorp and LK. LK also has block break, kinda. If you get 1 hit = 1 concussion means 1% block break chance on basic hit. @hollow obsidian correct me if I am wrong.

You can get max 50 concussions that gives 50% block break. At least thats what I understood but then I always have BB gear equipped so. I never really noticed. @opaque rain

[opaque rain]

block breaker chance is only for lk

[polar geode]

For team. But a huge maybe.

Your long term friend is probably you having some BB gear by opening equipment packs. BB gear is abundant (Bladed Fan, Revolver, Tribal Headband, Vial of Blood, Pransker Banger, Chainsaw).

I personally use Sindel a lot because I like her stun loop attacks with the right gear. And I only equip one block breaker on my character when she is in my team.

[opaque rain]

low hp and bad combos but i like her passive

[polar geode]

Yeah. I love the scream

[opaque rain]

should i add klassic lk in this team?

[polar geode]

If it was me, I'd stick with MK11 Liu Kang.

[opaque rain]

lethal blow chances works for scorpion too?

[polar geode]

I don't think so. Sorry for late reply bro. Was out.

[waxen veldt]

Should I?

[opaque rain]

fuse up kc johnny

or lizard characters

[honest carbon]

Do it

[polar geode]

Question: Is Spawn, Joker and Darkest Knight Noob Saibot a good team?

@honest carbon wdy think?

[honest carbon]

Nice. What's your jocker fusion?

[polar geode]

Joker is FX, Spawn is F2, Noob is F0 sadly.

I have a feeling this team could be filthy good too.

[honest carbon]

It's sounds like a fun team to play

[polar geode]

Gonna try it out in krypr

[torpid seal]

This team okay?

[opaque rain]

mk11 scorp, noob, sindel would be better

[inner delta]

yuh

put sfs in da last slot

[cinder lily]

Why, it's literally the same

The big mistake is scorgarbage mk11 as starter

[inner delta]

lmaooo

[cinder lily]

Why would you restart, cant you give it a try?@queen drift

[queen drift]

just know that mk11 scorpion is good and i wanna get a decent start at least

[cinder lily]

You already got a better start

Do you want to learn 0 from using MK11 Asscorpion

Or do you want to learn and enjoy the game

[snow stone]

What's a good team with Hanzo hasashi?

[honest carbon]

Idk about his team but did u try his stun loop set up?

[snow stone]

I just got him soo nope

[honest carbon]

This all u need and a block breaker

He's lvl41 fusion 8 doing kold tower 145

0 tower gear used

HOLD ON

WHY KABAL NOT STUNNING ME?

Also follow this talent tree

[snow stone]

My man aint even 2 tapping what you doin bruh

Also mk11 kabal only reverse stuns for other mk11s

[honest carbon]

Using too much mk11 scorpion effect 😅 mb

[fast dirge]

Anyone ever thought this would work with Mk1 smoke?

[snow stone]

Considering the gear literally says it works with smoke...

[honest carbon]

Had to research who voice acted baraka aftet this, his name is Steve blum. he also did mk11 sub too, crazy work

[fast dirge]

you never know maybe it wouldnt work on mk1 smoke since he has no spear attack

[karmic grotto]

I just find that meme worthy, you truly never can escape MK1 Smoke and his combo ability

[uneven tartan]

Can Tanya treacherous disable or break bosses cards in kold tower or edenian tower ?

[hollow obsidian]

Nope

[cold void]

There any tier list or just a list of best/good fighter for dmg type Gold?

Cuz idk anything about the characters :/, the only one i use is Triborg fire at Fusion VII for the dmg

[cyan elm]

Klassic scorp😎

[cold void]

It is easy to get Fusion X but take time to collect the Rubys

Or wait i could get it in a few days right?

[cyan elm]

Just grind faction wars

Took me like a week to get 1 copy

[cold void]

Idk, may be in month or a little bit less

I Get 150 or more per faction war

[cyan elm]

Very nice

I also happen to get him alot from just buying packs

[cold void]

Alr ty, imma farm him

[polar geode]

How would you rate Hellspawn Scorpion?

[honest carbon]

When it said "4" in character gear filter this is what it got

[inner delta]

W

i dont even have the fs rare

[opaque rain]

"STUN BLOCKED"

[opaque rain]

nokia 💸💸💸

[errant umbra]

Here is the charcters i have

[opaque rain]

bro u should open beginner's pack not mk1 shang 😭

u wasted 150 dk for nothing

[hazy needle]

Play shang scorp and raiden

[wheat aspen]

Hows this for a elder krypt MK11 Scorpion. In the talents i have the brutality stuff and the fire dot related stuff.

They're paired with Darkest Night Noob and MK11 Jade

[snow stone]

Just use ravenous mileena dang lol

[vocal kraken]

but then he doesnt get the 2x bonus

[wheat aspen]

I forgot she buffs team dot damage tbh.
Who would I replace for her. Noob?

[snow stone]

I mean whoever, but her +100% is literally better than all your gear combined lol

[slender glade]

Is this good for an acc of atleast 4 years

Ive taken a break for 2 years and have gotten back at it like last week idk

[snow stone]

Progression has been buffed alot, so no not really, but youll catch up pretty easy

[slender glade]

Yeah prolly i mean i have good cards but im too lazy to grind them

And i grind for like hours at a time😭

[fast dirge]

Tested my luck with one pack opening

[warm marlin]

How do i make this team better

[fast dirge]

To many blockbreakers on subzero

Put the revolvers on Scorpion instead of the shuriken

And put some more stat raising equipment on that empty slot of subzero

[fast dirge]

Why do you have so many blockbreakers on the team even got the Vail of infinite blood on Scorpion
Everyone has 2 blockbreakers
What other equipments do you have?

[warm marlin]

I put blockbreakers cuz i have no idea what else to put

Blockbreakers stack right?

[old path]

No

[errant umbra]

i found my old account that has level 50 jade

is jade level 50 good

[old path]

Which one

[errant umbra]

mk11 one

[old path]

Ye

[errant umbra]

should i grind kyrpt now

[old path]

If u wanna idc

[errant umbra]

also got mk11 scorpion plus klassic liu kang

i dont know

These all my diamonds in old account

[old path]

#🗡-kollection

@errant umbra

[errant umbra]

what team i can make help pls i forget how to do team

[fickle star]

Use mk11 sindel, scorpion and liu kang

[cinder lily]

Ok, my gold tier list

[fickle star]

I have sektor, hanzo, kosplay jacqui, takeda and kl sonya as quest slaves lol

[snow stone]

Kameo tierlist when

[cinder lily]

what's that

[oblique stirrup]

Why is klassic ermac in b+?

Isnt he like good for like people that dont have mk11 scorpion

[snow stone]

Its not that strong, its just a cop out for new players

[oblique stirrup]

Ah

[snow stone]

I mean 30% damage to a boss is just... not that much unless your weak af lol

[oblique stirrup]

Also why do cryomancer and grandmaster subzero look like the exact same ;-;

[snow stone]

Lol, yeah some of the early golds are basically identical looking

[oblique stirrup]

I literally cant tell the difference cuz it only shows their head and the only difference between their models is that grandmaster subzero has the grandmasters medallion thing

[snow stone]

Anyways

Edenian kitana deserves s+

[oblique stirrup]

Klassic scorpion should be in s+

[cinder lily]

It's 10%

[snow stone]

Times 3

Im talking total

[cinder lily]

His damage is low, the above characters can finish matches faster than KL scorpion

No, where's your silver Kenshin f7 and your cryomancer subzero

[oblique stirrup]

Theres no way that tanya(idk if its kobu jutsu or pryomancer or treacherous) can finish a match faster than klassic scorpion 💀

Thats cap

[cinder lily]

Devil's dust makes fire special attacks do insane damage

[oblique stirrup]

Wait so thats pyromancer tanya?

I gotta check her passive rq

Oo thats pretty good

But you need sp2 for devils dust tho

[cinder lily]

No she can apply randomly with combo enders

[oblique stirrup]

Theres only a 30% chance to get the combo ender tho

[cinder lily]

That's enough lol

[oblique stirrup]

Ok bht

You need to spend a lot of time getting the devils dust

Then applying fire

Then waiting for the fire to lower your opponent to 1 hp

Then kill them

[cinder lily]

You never used her did you

[oblique stirrup]

So wouldnt klassic scorpion kill people faster

Uh

Nope

[cinder lily]

She gives Outworld and martial arts teammates fire on combo enders, guaranteed

[oblique stirrup]

Yeah so?

[cinder lily]

Insane synergy + solid passive

[oblique stirrup]

You still need to do 3 combo enders to apply devils dust

[cinder lily]

Scorpion doesn't have synergy with anyone

And his damage is a bit lower than other scorpion

[oblique stirrup]

Ok but

Fire doesnt work on bosses

[cinder lily]

Neither bleed from KL scorpion

[oblique stirrup]

But thats not the main thing he uses to dps

The most important thing about klassic scorpions passive is he tags the opponent back in

So he can kill them even if they tag out

[snow stone]

Just sp2?

Or get it on the first ender

Its a random chance on any ender

Sp2 isnt like, some far away thing lol

Pyro tanya applies more fire than mk11 scorp how can anyone say shes not godly lol

[vagrant rock]

Hey everyone do anyone know if darkest knight noob saibot will return to the store or if hes gone until next halloween

[snow stone]

Its impossible to know what offers they will do

[vagrant rock]

so u think its possible?

thank u man

[snow stone]

Sure but

I wouldnt get your hopes up

[opaque rain]

move cosplay jacqui briggs to S- tier

[snow stone]

I promise you he wont change it

[polar geode]

Gear recommendations for MK1 smoke?

[tawny ocean]

Who do I pair with these 2?

[polar geode]

ravenous mileena ❤️❤️

[tawny ocean]

What if I dont have her

[surreal sky]

Heys guys

Team suggestions for edenian tower battle 130?

My current team just heals them to full at the start of the match

[polar geode]

You are using DoT character. Avoid using DoT. Jade will keep healing. Or use gear that has incurability on tag in or special.

[surreal sky]

Only incurability gear I have is famous dashing smile

[polar geode]

What other diamonds you got?

[surreal sky]

These are the strongest

[polar geode]

Hmmm Idk bro. Incurability is your best hope I guess.

[surreal sky]

😢

Or just go with the current team

And hope for the best?

Cause they dont heal for the entire match

So they may heal upto 80-85%

And then start taking damage again

But it will take forever

😂

[polar geode]

Yeah scorpions dot are on start of match and tag in and also on combo ender. So if you find a way to out damage the heal, which doesn't seem possible

Do you have tower gear?

@surreal sky

[surreal sky]

Yes

I defeated the jade

So that means that the rain won't heal right?

So i can switch back to my normal team?

@polar geode

[polar geode]

Yeah your regular can kill rain

Keep applying cripple on him

@surreal sky

[snow stone]

Have you considered just not healing them?

It would probably go better if you stopped healing them with your own team

[cinder lily]

No

[cinder lily]

gonna do a list of boss killer characters only

the line between can kill and potential is so small than the characters in that status can jump or drop easily

once again that's just my opinion

[fickle star]

Mk11 Shang???

But no mk11 scorpion in boss killers

His infinite chaining does the job

Better than sindel tbh

[opaque rain]

mk11 scorpion must be here

and sindel cant do anything agaisnt bosses, dying in 30 seconds

bosses having immunity to dots and debuffs if u didnt know

[cinder lily]

constant power generation without need to hit or be hitted + solid sp2 damage

[cinder lily]

no thanks, 3 mins of sp1 until you kill the enemy is not boss killer in My books

[fickle star]

And ass chaining

[fickle star]

Bosses aren't immune to debuffs

[cinder lily]

omg I didn't know thanks for telling me!!! i was gonna include assassin skarlet

[opaque rain]

power drain, stun

[cinder lily]

bosses aren't immune to power drain and stun LOL

[fickle star]

I know what a debuff is

They aren't immune

They may have equipments with debuff resistance

[cinder lily]

telogreika

[fickle star]

But bosses themselves aren't immune to debuffs

Only dots

[cinder lily]

and Sindel jumps in, shield break into sp2, then stun the next boss and tag-out

[opaque rain]

bro got only f1

[cinder lily]

Bro, I have almost everything maxed

it's not my fault you barely got silver kenshi to f5

[opaque rain]

and mk1 shang is better boss killer than mk11

he is debuff master

[cinder lily]

his sp2 and strings are a bit slow

[fickle star]

Both shangs are ass for bosses

[opaque rain]

place kl noob in boss killer, his sp2 deals a lot of damage if u got some reaction and skill

[cinder lily]

he's there ._.

and again, it's my list, do your own if you disagree

[fickle star]

He's ass too

[opaque rain]

i mean confirmed boss killer

[cinder lily]

not confirmed for me

[opaque rain]

says a man that cant chain up to 6 times

[fickle star]

Only golds that can keep up with diamonds against bosses are lizard jade, baraka, KC johnny and Hanzo sp1 loop

[cinder lily]

no human can chain 6 times

[fickle star]

Says a man who can do more damage in less time

[opaque rain]

hit damage < sp2 damage

[cinder lily]

time > everything else

[opaque rain]

bro got almost all fx but cant chain up to 6 times

[fickle star]

Both are low

[cinder lily]

can you do it? show us

[fickle star]

Kl noob is ass against bosses

[opaque rain]

my phone is ass tho, my fps dropping to 20-10 when recording

[cinder lily]

excuses excuses

[opaque rain]

g-series did chain up to 6 times

[cinder lily]

1 player in the whole community is enough reason for you, sure buddy

[opaque rain]

u mean all 100 million players are recording videos?

[cinder lily]

you mean all 100 million players does the 6-chain?

[opaque rain]

skilled players does