🤼-characters-and-teams

[nocturne forum]

What’s the best? Where can can I find it

[snow stone]

#🤼-characters-and-teams message

Obviously mine 🙂

Lol

[nocturne forum]

Thank you

[devout turtle]

i think you should raise hss as he used more in krypt

[snow stone]

Only really useful in one mode, and is replacable by good enough gear. I dont really qualify it

Hes also a scorpion that cant sp1 loop

[devout turtle]

ofc not saying this as i dont have other options 😂

i am working my epic fuse cards on weaver so i can solve this

[fickle star]

Bruh

[ornate patio]

Is mk11 rain good

And does he pair wel with mk11 scorp

[somber hill]

Who should i pair mk 11 liu and skorpion with ? Liu is always tagged out for his gear fire

Right now i have jade who can reset fire dots

[somber hill]

He gives pseudo regeneration

[fickle star]

Aka recovery

[fickle star]

Sub0

[frank yew]

What's the best team for any boss

[fickle star]

Bruh

Depends on what you have in the first place

Overall it's team soak

[frank yew]

Aight ill save for make it rain pack and elemental warriors i guess

Ty

[snow stone]

Make it rain is a horrid pack

[frank yew]

Shut up bruv i don't care about your opinion i buy what i buy bc im lucky

[snow stone]

Shutup bruv that pack doesnt even contain the diamond used in team soaking so now you look like a jag eh?

[frank yew]

No way what pack does team soak contain in

[snow stone]

You need klassic rain, make it rain ironically doesnt feature him...

[devout jetty]

Guys should I use diamond fusion ups on mk1 kenshi or Inj raiden?

[hard vine]

Is mk11 characters really that great or is there a better team character?

[somber hill]

Kold is hardcore too

Black dragon is very cool

Klassic too

Kold Skorpion has shield Team fire frostbite and iceshield on special 2

And if use his friendship he gets snare too xD

[bleak shuttle]

that list is wrong. Takeda is way too high

[snow stone]

The list is right, LF is F tier

[undone maple]

Actually LF should be higher than F tier, gave him subs fx cruelty, his chainsaw, fx enigmatic lantern and fx familty tools.
Team him up with mk11 nub + freddy and he did some mad damage

[high widget]

If we're talking mad damage, I'm sure Ronins would be much higher

[undone maple]

Considering i have 2/3 f0 ronins and lf is f1. I think ill stick with the latter thanks

[bleak shuttle]

half right

[high widget]

Make your own then

[undone maple]

Tho i dont agree with spawn at B, hes A tier at best

[round dew]

New team

[fickle star]

Lmao

[ornate patio]

Is 400% recovery rlly that good

[snow stone]

Yes

[undone maple]

thats why so many tower epic armors have high recovery boost because recovery is super good

[frank yew]

omg the man the legend Mand

[cinder lily]

Legend is a different youtuber btw

[warm bough]

sup im an amateur and idk who should i use/replace, why?

[cinder lily]

go with klassic noob klassic jade and triborg cyrax

[warm bough]

so its not woth it to use these diamonds cards?

[cinder lily]

not outside of their teams

[warm bough]

but overall, they are not as high level as these diamonds, and has worse stats

[cinder lily]

and they have better synergy than your current team

[warm bough]

ok so i have to exp them then

[cinder lily]

option 2: Keep Sub-Zero and raiden, and replace noob with Cyrax

[warm bough]

but noob is fused already

[cinder lily]

again, he doesn't give or receive any kind of support from subzero and raiden

[warm bough]

so its worth it to use cyrax over noob even tho cyrax is not fused and its a bit worse on stats rn?

[cinder lily]

depends what are you gonna play tbh

the stats doesn't matter at all

[brave bison]

Hmm that's a good

Oh look

You have klassic jade and noob saibot too

They are soo good 💯

[frank yew]

Hey what's the meta rn

[brave bison]

Well boi

Mk11 Liu Kang
Mk11 scorpion

[frank yew]

"meta this meta that have you met a girl before?"

[brave bison]

Klassic Liu Kang

Klassic Raiden

[brave bison]

Meh I just do my work f girls.

I got bros b4 hos

Wby leroy

[frank yew]

Respect

Met my bro's in 6th grade

[brave bison]

W

[frank yew]

Im now in 8th grade we still chilling

[brave bison]

BOI THAT'S A TRUE BRO YOU'LL HAVE IN LIFE 🗣️

[brave bison]

You will dw

And always will

[snow stone]

Need help with making a team I can show my roster

[honest carbon]

Show us your kollection.

[snow stone]

It’s loading

[honest carbon]

Ok

[snow stone]

Alr

What do u think

[snow stone]

Did u watch

[honest carbon]

I see people alredy assisted u in the other channel.

U want more teams?

[desert shuttle]

takeda teaming up with people he beat in mkx
ahhh… thats nice.

(not my team)

[devout jetty]

Best boss killer team for ewt?

[cinder lily]

mk11 jade mk11 liu kang mk11 sub-zero/sindel

[snow stone]

Yes

[snow stone]

Anyone able to make teams for me?

[cinder lily]

would you work for me then?

[compact swift]

Any1 got a good diamond tiert list?

[cinder lily]

those are personals

[compact swift]

still curious lmao

[cinder lily]

This is mine

[undone maple]

not bad but some opinions are left to debate

[cinder lily]

you are right, klassic goro > km johnny

[undone maple]

nah. id say kmjc at least at B+

[cinder lily]

besides power drain what else does he have

[undone maple]

access to stunt buddies

combine that with lucky hat and the odds for vampirisim doubles

[cinder lily]

I'm not ranking with equipments lul

[undone maple]

ah without

but asaide from pd on sp1

stun on sp2, passive that splits between 3 ways

[cinder lily]

bleed and fire on his special feature iirc

[undone maple]

the 3rd being a grapple

hes pretty much a jack of all trades

[cinder lily]

for the costs of power

[undone maple]

even then, its not even a full bar

if you have at least 2 bars of power you can do a weird chain of basic to sp1, repeat till not enough for one more sp1 then use the remaining power for grapple special passive

and the grapple combo is the easiest being just right > 3 taps

[compact swift]

Whos best with fire god lk?

[cinder lily]

pyro tanya

[compact swift]

OOOOOOOOO

Hmmmmmmmm

i was gonna try mk fujin and inj2 raiden

but i might swap inj 2 rakden for tanyas

[undone maple]

they are solid too

especially fujin

[compact swift]

tanya makes fglk like incredibly good tho

[snow stone]

#🤼-characters-and-teams message

[snow stone]

Not really the issue is the 7 stack limit not how difficult 7 stacks is to get

Also the huge issue of bosses being immune to fire

[compact swift]

I havent seen anyone rate sindel very high

[undone maple]

why is slasher better than unstoppable?

[compact swift]

How is slasher not better than unstopabble wut?

[undone maple]

unstoppable strength sp1, regen sp2

unhinged damage

and only countered by fast/speedy characters

[compact swift]

Ig but slasher and with his gear is literally undying

• invuln

[undone maple]

unstoppable literally can use the same gear

[compact swift]

Ik but 2 extra lives vs 1

[undone maple]

but that 1 extra live can be prolonged more than 2

[compact swift]

One sec need to check gea rq

Hmm ig idk then

Ascension maybe?

[undone maple]

undeserved to slasher imo

[compact swift]

Tbf cant argue with more fusions

[snow stone]

Revive and bleed

Regen isnt that good to me when I can just play better

[snow stone]

She's veryy good

Strength is only 10-15% damage

Pretty bad buff tbh

[undone maple]

which sindel?

[snow stone]

Mk11

[undone maple]

oh yea. shes a beast

[compact swift]

It is surprising she isnt rated higher

I thought she wouldve been after kameos got introduced

[undone maple]

with kameos added to the mix the list changes quite alot

[snow stone]

Eh I disagree with that

[compact swift]

i dont think it changes a lot, but I do think stun and freeze got indirectly buffed so characters with those got indirectly buffed too

IE why I think sindel wouldve been much better

[undone maple]

and characters went up and down the tiers

[snow stone]

Personally, kameos havent changed any placements for me

You cant rely on a kameo to fix a characters problem, because the cooldowns are to long

And if its a supporting thing... it supports everyone

[undone maple]

yea, still can be a game changer

[snow stone]

A game changer in battle, but to any specific character? I dont really feel that sentiment

[undone maple]

stun kameos counter assassin jade so im ok with it

[snow stone]

Lol, I still wish kameos were implemented completely differently

[undone maple]

true

like how they actually work in mk1

[snow stone]

Have like 10-15 kameos this update only, but theyre you know, actually unique

Give them passives, actually all have 3 abilties... etc

[undone maple]

yea

and even help at xrays/fb

instead of doing their own

[snow stone]

But anyways my tierlist is objectively the best no lie 🙂

Lol

[undone maple]

agree to disagree but ok

[snow stone]

What do you disagree with

[undone maple]

well, for starters its abit outdated. but mainly jonkler is way better than great. he should be at godlike

[snow stone]

Nah his dps is way to low

His utility doesnt beat out me not killing anything

[undone maple]

thats the price of the nomad class

[snow stone]

Then the price is hes not S tier

🤷‍♂️

[undone maple]

where would you put spawnser? pre-buff and post-buff

[snow stone]

I dont find being nomad a particularly strong thing

[undone maple]

nomads mainly good for class advantages and team synergies

[snow stone]

Pre C post A, potential S tho tbh. When hes higher fusion I can test him proper

[undone maple]

i wish i got more fusions of his summon pack but game said no

[snow stone]

Class advantages have nothing on gear🤷‍♂️ I dont mind most to be any impressive

[undone maple]

id say jonklers gears are great. bb, snare and sp2 cost reduce on legacy

[snow stone]

I dont account for their specific gear personally

Gear is a non factor unless it enables some impressive strategy

[undone maple]

and some do

[snow stone]

Like klassic raiden is better because of stalker sight

Jokers gear doesnt elevate him specifically mucb

[undone maple]

id say nubs new fs elevated mk11 nub quite abit

[snow stone]

I disagree

[undone maple]

how come?

[snow stone]

The noob specific effect isnt that good

The overall effect IS good but works on anyone

[undone maple]

yea. if they cant like tweak the tag-in timing then thats gonna be a future problem

[snow stone]

Im still keeping noob tagged out

Infact id use it on anyone but him

Because if I bring him, its for his damage passive

[undone maple]

with nub i just do malice on tag-in. sp2 and shadow does sp1

and when shadow dies. specific effect triggers

[snow stone]

Thats low dps. In survival its nice but until that mode is buffed I barely account for it

[undone maple]

the only good thing about it are the more power to build and incurability really

and even then tis better to use crown

[snow stone]

Incurability is very strong, but again its better on other characters so why would noob get moved up right?

[undone maple]

i guess cuz of the death mark spam

[snow stone]

If incurability was the noob specific effect id probably change my mind

[undone maple]

not as busted as the reworked witches ward

i got cooked by it

[snow stone]

?

Oh well, if you dont play around it sure

Its not good player side tho

[undone maple]

how do you play around something like that in krypt

[snow stone]

I mean

I xray/dragon everyone

So in krypt I dont deal with anything like that lol

[undone maple]

that ward was on guardian arnold

[snow stone]

Dragon

Just tag, oh look hes dead

And

An equipment being good on the enemy AI is not a factor

For me

[peak raptor]

I tried to make something normal out of it...

[undone maple]

but he resisted every debuff i tossed at him and suddenly he had fb

[snow stone]

Well that sucks man, but thats not much of a scenario for a player

[undone maple]

yea the odds were heavily against

[undone maple]

gotta tweak the gears abit more

[snow stone]

I mean im sure youve seen the krypt double xray tag kill team

That kinda solves everything lol

[undone maple]

yea. cant copy it

im missing like 60% of the meta epics, and the ones i do have arent maxed out or just stay f0 for years

[snow stone]

how do you level up units fast

Well you dont really need maxed equips except from FW to do it

At least if hellspawn has a multiplier

[peak raptor]

Any tips? Tower equipment on my account sucks a lot...

[snow stone]

You cant do it every week but some sure

With me newly maxing kenshis brutality epic, I can do it any week now, pretty sweet

[undone maple]

kenshis fs?

[peak raptor]

Faction wars (5 battles), level up cards

[snow stone]

Brut lol, dno why I said friendship

[snow stone]

thank you

[peak raptor]

Ur welcome

[undone maple]

ditch the double unblockable on cyber sub. maybe use bound demon to make sure he can recover

and give smoke the cybernetic armor

[peak raptor]

Ok, thanks

[peak raptor]

I'll try to play with it but I used to shield break on tag in + lots of crit damage. I'm trying to get max of attack

Any tips for such build on Smoke Triborg?

[undone maple]

give him bladed fans and spam sp1 as often as possible

no power for the enemies

[compact swift]

Whats bladed fans

[undone maple]

the weapons they have on cyber-sub

[peak raptor]

And I can try to put Noble Dainty Gesture for crits... That's an idea, thanks

[undone maple]

id say if you have rusty chainsaw. give it to cyber-sub and maybe give gesture to him as well

[peak raptor]

I have it on f9 lol

[undone maple]

dang

[peak raptor]

Few seconds...

[undone maple]

if only chainsaw was fx

[peak raptor]

Yeah, that's changes everything...

[warm bough]

is it worth it exping Bo rai cho ??

[peak raptor]

Put Cyrax instead of Bo Rai Cho, he boosts crit damage +50%

[frank yew]

dayum bruh youve improved W

[devout jetty]

Anyone?

[honest carbon]

Why bd and mk11 kabal have so gap? Passives?

[vernal hamlet]

yea

[honest carbon]

Ok

[inner delta]

This needs to be pinned tbh

[snow stone]

No tierlist should be pinned, theres alot of disagreement and no set criteria

[inner delta]

understood sir

[snow stone]

I don’t work for anyone

Can someone help me make some teams

[frank yew]

wat are the characters do i need to make team soak

[compact swift]

Why you have kl sonya as broken?

[cinder lily]

I have some questions

I don't = you don't use it ?

[kind bridge]

Most likely I don’t

This does not determine how good it is but what I like and don't like.
And what I use and don’t

[cinder lily]

What about useful

Do you like it or not

[kind bridge]

You can see cos kung I don’t like him but useful for x-ray setups

Kl green and kold Sonya are not so different useful but not what I like

[kind bridge]

I think this would make it more clear

[snow stone]

Anyone able to help me make teams

[snow stone]

Shes just a very very good gold, she doesn't really have some amazing tech just functions well

[wraith flint]

The great kung lao is watching me 😂

[snow stone]

Anyone able to make teams for my roster excluding mk 11 teams

Guys

[cinder lily]

NO, NO ONE WANTS TO HELP YOU

If not, somebody would already answered you

[cinder lily]

But since I'm the best player of MKM, go with Kombat cup johnny & sonya + covert ops cassie cage

[snow stone]

Why tf not

What is this chat made for if nobody will help me make a team

[cinder lily]

check again...

[snow stone]

Any others?

Wdym check again

“ talk about many combinations players can make”

This chat is useless

[snow stone]

The title literally says characters and teams

[cinder lily]

I literally sent you a team ._.

[snow stone]

I said teams

Not team

Meaning more than 1

[snow stone]

The entitlement is crazy

I wonder why no one wants to help

Why

How am I being entitled

I have a team to work with

[snow stone]

Its a public server not a help hotline, your not entitled to us making you anything

The channel, is to SHOW teams and characters, not beg someone to make you one

I already have a couple teams

I just have a lot of characters just rotting

And I want to put them to use

Then use them and learn combos yourself🤷‍♂️

[earnest grove]

[snow stone]

So what I use use klassic raiden , klk and fujin

[snow stone]

I already know I can use scorpion , liu kang and sub zero

Klassic scorpion , klassic smoke and klassic Shang Tsung

[snow stone]

For another team I can do

Mk11 sindel , kabal and noob

What do y’all think of the teams

And then I can do kombat cup team , johnny, Sonya , Cassie

[tame jackal]

I need a bit help with my standard mk11 team. originally scorpion was my highest fused diamond and sub zero my second highest. I added noob as his passive seemed usefull and his ability to soak a sp2 or x-ray. Meanwhile noob is still fusion 2 and I have a better roster.

I have now fusion x in mk11: Sub Zero, Scorpion, Kabal, Jade and Skarlet, while Raiden, Liu Kang Shang Tsung are 7 and Rainand Sindel are 6. Fujin and Nightwolv and noob are under

I am also very happy with my subzero gear but not with Scorpion. Sub Zero I use his brutallity gear and weather warefare which is pretty long and often frozen, as his combo ender can freeze then and when they tag in. My noob gear is support only and Scorpion I had Vodoo doll his brutallity cloak, the tomahawk and his shiray legacy gear, which I have now repalced with dagger of spirits from this tower

So I think I should replace noob. Sindel Passive is nice and I like her sp2 but she is only fusion 6. I do not really need the effect of Jade, so its hard for me to decide the third. I also need some gearing help with scorpion, as I will stick with support gear on my third char

[snow stone]

How many teams should I have

[cinder lily]

you described your problem very well, scorpion is your pain in the a

[hard vine]

Any kard packs worth buying today?

[bleak shuttle]

I would replace noob with LK

[tame jackal]

Thank you

[honest carbon]

Mk11 rain, klassic raiden and mk11 scorpion

Start with rains free sp1 then tag in raiden when the cool down Is over tag in scorpion and chain

[high willow]

i tried this and i think id rather use bronze team then this

[hard vine]

Any kard packs worth buying today?

[peak raptor]

Imho only black dragon packs for dragon crystals (if they still available) and elite netherrealm and elder gods pack

[honest carbon]

Try bronze then

[soft hornet]

I want Jason bruv 🙏🏻

[normal idol]

What to buy from Dragon crystals shop? I got 185 currency.

[foggy helm]

hot

[frank yew]

sf pack bro you wont regret it sf scorpion is so good

[cinder lily]

lizard jade: blazing girdle + stunt buddies. Try it later

[snow stone]

Lizard jade: bionic eye, girdle, makeover

Itd been tested plenty, I know her better than anyone

[vast vector]

Remove sindels trash Ahh

[snow stone]

Sindel is incredibly good, especially in that team

[vast vector]

Maybe against bosses

[snow stone]

Maybe against everyone

[vast vector]

Mk11 scorp?

[snow stone]

Why would I not run the best synergy for my liu kang

[vast vector]

Because scorpion exists

[snow stone]

Useless

My damage is on sp2 not basics

Tf is scorp gonna do

[vast vector]

Going to carry your ahh

[snow stone]

???

[vast vector]

tf he gon do

[snow stone]

Liu kang dps is like 2x mk11 scorps

[vast vector]

so liukang> mk11 scorp?

[snow stone]

For damage hell yeah

Not even close

The team is a "if you had to use 1 team only forever what would it be"

Thats the team I would choose

[vast vector]

Fair enough youre the pro

[snow stone]

Liu kang is a bossing god, he can mob well, sindel is amazing support, stun resist and makes liu kang have infinite power gen with this setup, stuns, SB...

And DK noob is a generic save me and gives immune to tag ins, which is one of the only vulnerabilities in the tesm

[vast vector]

What are the best cards to build around l

lkl

like lets say you swapped mk11 liukang to lkl

instead of sindel who would u put

[snow stone]

Whos lkl

[vast vector]

klk

[snow stone]

Oh

[vast vector]

Mb

[snow stone]

Uh, I dno he doesnt really need support, probably just cyrax for some extra damage

[cobalt shuttle]

what is the go to pick for elemental warriors for a new player ?

[vast vector]

No way lmao

[snow stone]

?

[vast vector]

a gold?

[snow stone]

I use cyrax all the time, infact in a boss fight id drop DK noob for cyrax

[vast vector]

damn

[snow stone]

Theres only 2 other characters that boost crit damage

[vast vector]

kung jin

[snow stone]

And theyre both class specific

[vast vector]

what about cyrax and kung jin

and klk

[snow stone]

You could do that, but youd have no one to tag to

[vast vector]

and if you put cc gear on klk wouldnt it equate to him almost doing 100% crit

all in theory ofc im just saying

[snow stone]

^this setup works for cc because liu kangs passive provides the other part I need to make it 100% anyways

The epic, talents, and passive do it alone

[vast vector]

Damn

Alright thanks dude

[bleak shuttle]

How 😲😲😲

[snow stone]

Stalker sight sp2 loop

[bleak shuttle]

Why do you need to loop anything when you burn them in 5 😁

[snow stone]

Bosses

The question was, a team I would use if I could never change it again

And a DoT team is definitely not my choice

Obviously liu kangs passive isnt even a factor in normal fights so

[bleak shuttle]

Hmmm.... I never change my dot team for non boss fights

Bosses are not a big deal as every team will suffer vs difficult boss fights. So I always design special team for current tower bosses

But for everything else my dot team weecks

😎

For example mk11 lk suxxx soo bad vs hells bane it isn't even funnt

[snow stone]

I mean no he doesnt

I can do like 4 sp2s in that time

Tag into sindel, shield break, stun, tag back

And again, im not using a DoT team as my only team ever forever

You dont even know the original premise but you still act app snide about it, cmon man

[bleak shuttle]

If any1 of your team gets snared or you fail to snare your mk11 lk will be the end of your team with his concussions 😁

Been there

Or even if you are late to tag out once

I wouldn't bring him into a hell bane unless he has op gear

[snow stone]

Oh no, if only I could chance 1 gear to become immune to snare

Gosh, what am I gonna do

And if you argument is "what if you played worse" that is completely irrelevant to me

[bleak shuttle]

I am just saying it is risky. That's all.

[snow stone]

Its really not tho

[bleak shuttle]

His concussions cannot go away

[snow stone]

Hellsbane is not common

When its there its usually a fight I can win fast anyways

[bleak shuttle]

We are not discussing how common it is 😏 anyways

[snow stone]

I cant believe you didn't cite sandstorm

Because thats a WAY bigger issue

Hellsbane is nothing

"Oh no you have 15 seconds to kill with the highest damage sp2 in the game"

[bleak shuttle]

mk11 liu can help you ignore sandstorm at least in the crit part

[snow stone]

You cant gain power with stalkers during sandstorm

Im not worried about the crit

[bleak shuttle]

It is dmg over time. In that regard klk is the best 😏

[snow stone]

No its not

[bleak shuttle]

😲

[bleak shuttle]

So if your sp2 deals 100k dmg but it lasts 10 sec and my sp2 deals 80k dmg but it lasts 1 second...which 1 will kill boss with 1 mil up faster

[snow stone]

It doesnt last 10 seconds

And it does quite alot more damage

[bleak shuttle]

Just giving you example

[snow stone]

An example on falsehood

[bleak shuttle]

Example on principle. Do you deny it

[hollow obsidian]

[snow stone]

I do because its nonsense, every number you gave was invalid

"If I warp the numbers to look more favorable than they are it looks good"

[bleak shuttle]

I know it was an example. So please in the given example just say whether the dmg is more important or the dmg over time. Thank you

[snow stone]

Also I thought you were debating using mk11 scorp?

[hollow obsidian]

as sheep said, dots don't work on bosses

[bleak shuttle]

Couldn't care less

[snow stone]

You just gonna switch characters to argue, what an absurd thing lol

Again, the premise for you

One team, that you can never change characters again

I gave mine, it wasnt an invitation to your opinion on scorpion using DoTs

[bleak shuttle]

Let's not argue on characters. Please reply on whether the time sp2 is delivered matters or not. That is all. I said dmg over time matters. Not just dmg

[snow stone]

Nah im good

[bleak shuttle]

So it doesn't matter. Only dmg matters

[snow stone]

Maybe you can join at the beginnering of a convo

Instead of injecting your opinion half an hour later and bring up other things randomly

[bleak shuttle]

So you are refusing to answer

[snow stone]

Im refusing to argue with you everytime you talk because you refuse to join a conversation with relevance

[bleak shuttle]

Ok let's scrap the conversation. I truly want to know if you believe dmg is more important than dmg over time. That's all. Why is it so difficult to say yes or no

That is an interesting topic 😁

[snow stone]

Its really not

[gleaming raven]

I hate it when bosses heal from dots because every time I think it won’t affect them but they override the dot immunity 😭

[hollow obsidian]

well for now you can bypass it with incurability since the effect is bugged

[gleaming raven]

Oh that’s crazy

[snow stone]

Oh and btw, OVERTIME mk1 scorpion, yes mk1, is faster than klk.

[hollow obsidian]

it should stop the healing

not allow them to take dmg instead

[vast vector]

maybe 90 percent

[snow stone]

I cant wait for them to fix that tbh

[hollow obsidian]

i can't wait for the fix to it, raiden' and jason's brutality and sight

[gleaming raven]

Damage overtime is more important. It allows for more mistakes in case of a bad scenario. Instead of losing a heavy hitter and being destroyed afterwards

[bleak shuttle]

If a character deals 100k dmg in 3 seconds and another character deals 70k dmg in 1 second...which character will deal more dmg in 1 minute

Character A deals 90k dmg sp2 that lasts 3 seconds. That is 30k per sec. Character b sp2 deals 65k dmg I. 1 sec that is 65k dmg per second

When I say overtime I mean sp animation speed

[snow stone]

See he just injects these random numbers, the game isnt a spreadsheet alot more matters

[hollow obsidian]

you have to also include the time it takes to get back to sp2

[bleak shuttle]

Some sp2s are super slow, some are lightning fast

[bleak shuttle]

Sure let's say both character ls are equal. Everything else is equal only sp2 time is different

[snow stone]

And general fighting, and setup time, and early vs late damage

If everything is equal theres no comparison to be drawn

[bleak shuttle]

All other factors are equal. We are just testing the dmg over time thing

[snow stone]

They arent equal, thats the entire point

[bleak shuttle]

Does it matter or ni

[hollow obsidian]

forget the dot already

since for sheep dots don't matter ffs

[bleak shuttle]

Everything equal. 1 character deals 90k per 3 sec, the other 65k per 1 sec animation

Which 1 will deal more dmg in 1 min

[snow stone]

Its the most nonsense gotcha premise imaginable

[bleak shuttle]

Why don't you just answer please 😭

[snow stone]

Ok use DoTs into F200, ill use my mk11 liu team

Who wins?

[hollow obsidian]

why do you try to shove dots in sheep's convo when he said that he doesn't take dots into consideration bcs bosses are immune?

[snow stone]

Its almost like, other factors matter

That damage overtime changes every fight

[hollow obsidian]

@vast vector pack openings go in #🗡-kollection

[snow stone]

It doesnt matter if its better in one fight

[vast vector]

My bad fenix

[hollow obsidian]

no worries

[bleak shuttle]

We are not discussing other factors. We are trying to establish whether only dmg on so2 is important or dmg on sp2 per second is more important...

[snow stone]

Im not worried about the dps even, the only factor is can I win under 2 minutes

[snow stone]

No, you are man

[bleak shuttle]

I sat dmg on sp2 per second is more important to make an efficient boss killer

[snow stone]

Im not engaging with a scenario that ignores how the game functions

[gleaming raven]

The game doesn’t function normally bro

[bleak shuttle]

It is a simple thing...

[snow stone]

Again, if mkm was a spreadsheet, id engage

[bleak shuttle]

Is it important or not . Klk and johnny are great boss killers because they have lightning fast sp

[gleaming raven]

Where’s the mkm frame data spreadsheet I’m gonna dieeee

[snow stone]

Honestly would be helpful

[bleak shuttle]

Joker and mk11 sz sux vs bosses even if they chain it perfectly because it takes them 4 sec per sp2

[gleaming raven]

Not really that important to have frame data

[bleak shuttle]

Especially joker

[snow stone]

Its more a knowledge check than the actual frame data, but yes the exact frames arent important

[bleak shuttle]

Their sp2 is just too long

[snow stone]

Especially mk1 shang

[bleak shuttle]

True

That is what I am talking about. Dmg per sec

[snow stone]

I know what your talking about

[gleaming raven]

Isn’t kenshi a pretty good dmg per second character I’m not sure I haven’t used my mk1 team recently so I might have forgot

[snow stone]

But your oversimplifying it

Mk11 liu does 50% more damage, gains alot more passive effects, and can chain sp2 with 0 cooldown or need to gain meter

[bleak shuttle]

Ok I will satisfy with you admitting it exists 😁 anyways not trying to be pesky. I just love arguing about mkm 😁

[gleaming raven]

Plus his block breaker basically means all sp2 will hit no matter what

[snow stone]

Klk can immediately do more damage over time sure, but theres alot less going on, and he isnt stacking anything like concussion

[gleaming raven]

So if you get unlucky with your timing you will probably end up hitting it

[snow stone]

Klk is also vulnerable to counter attacks

[bleak shuttle]

I will test it tomorrow for you. Same gear, same boss fight. Which 1 will be faster . Both sp2 spam gear

[snow stone]

Or passives in general

Stun immune can ruin your sp2 looping for example

[snow stone]

I wouldnt do that now, during sandstorm but you do you lol

[bleak shuttle]

Well both will have issues there

Klk will have advantage

[snow stone]

Hence it being a bad test

My gear setup for mk11 liu is also completely catered to him

I would not use the same on klk

[bleak shuttle]

But if I use different set ups people will always complain

That I don't know how to use whoever because I gave them bad gears

Or the gears were unfair to one of them 😭

I don't really use mk11 liu tbh. Ever since they buried his sp1 chain

Only In krypt on auto

So imo giving them the same gear (sp2 spam) will be fair

[snow stone]

Im not surprised

Stalker loop is superior to sp1 cheese anyways

Btw

He can still sp1 loop

Its just WAY harder

[bleak shuttle]

Yeah not the same way like before. They also destroyed my kl rain sp2 into sp1

Sad times

[snow stone]

They removed almost all otgs

You know who can do it?

Onslaught jax

[bleak shuttle]

I have 8 days more to play mkm so I will def test mk11 vs classic liu

[snow stone]

Old raiden brut ender was insanee

Rip to that

[bleak shuttle]

I maxed onslaught jax today. Very good

Super fun to play

[snow stone]

You can use his ability at the perfect time to trap people as they stand up

Its kinda hard to time but it works

It works after xray too and breaks the AI

They dont move forward st all and are stuck a mile away

[bleak shuttle]

Will test that . At fx he is quite unstoppable

[snow stone]

Its a shame fujin is so mid, the team is already kind ruined by his existance lol

Hopefully the 3rd onslaught (if it ever even comes out) is good

[bleak shuttle]

At least he looks good

[frank yew]

bro is just having normal conversation with the man the legend, mand

[snow stone]

Because I dont idolize people I just talk to em

[void pelican]

Onslaught max is good

I like his sp2 the most

When you get 30 heat, you'll most likely got sp2

Sp2 + heat = extra damage and it's also unblockable

I have him at f1

[void pelican]

Peak scorpion

[frank yew]

bro youre not him 🙏

[hard vine]

Make it rain pack worth buying?

[frank yew]

yup

[turbid lantern]

Which team or which fighter on the team has more value? Edenian Blood or Lizard?

[cyan elm]

Absolutely not

[hard vine]

Nah I'm not playing with this bs

[nimble orchid]

Absolute garbage

[nimble orchid]

🗿

[hollow obsidian]

use the mk11s you have

[honest carbon]

Mk11 scorpion, use him

[surreal tundra]

Why not the Saibot and raiden??

I leveled them up

[honest carbon]

Rain also good

[surreal tundra]

What does mk11 mean?? Just their tags or something more

[nimble orchid]

Fujin his attack and health are pretty good

[surreal tundra]

Okay

I'll level him up

[nimble orchid]

Yeah he good

[hollow obsidian]

the team

scorpion, fujin and rain

[surreal tundra]

Ohh

Okay I'll make their team one

[honest carbon]

Tell em

[nimble orchid]

And also look at all their attack movements they can be good or terrible or worse for you

Like for instance goro

He’s BAD

[surreal tundra]

Okay bro

I have 130 dragon krystal

Where should I use them

Which is good pack rn

[nimble orchid]

🤯

130

[surreal tundra]

I got them on login bro lol

[nimble orchid]

Use Black Friday

[surreal tundra]

😭

Ok

[nimble orchid]

🗿massive respect

@surreal tundra yo what pack did you use

[surreal tundra]

Any good??

[nimble orchid]

Jesus….

[honest carbon]

[surreal tundra]

bro what

[nimble orchid]

What pack bro

[hollow obsidian]

pack openings go in #🗡-kollection

[surreal tundra]

Sorry

[nimble orchid]

WHAT ARE THE PACKS TELL ME YOUR SECRET

[surreal tundra]

Won't happen next time

[honest carbon]

It's ok, it's a decent opening fr

[surreal tundra]

😭😭man

[nimble orchid]

Nah that was the best thing I’ve seen

[surreal tundra]

You're trolling me

💀

[nimble orchid]

It was the holy grail

[surreal tundra]

I get it now

[nimble orchid]

ONG IM not

I swear on Jesus

[surreal tundra]

You are

[nimble orchid]

Bro did you see my cards

Did you see my cards

[surreal tundra]

You're trolling

😭You're only showing the bad ones

[nimble orchid]

How dukie they were

LOOK

#🤼-characters-and-teams

Look at all of them

How am I trolling now

[surreal tundra]

😭😭

[nimble orchid]

Just please what packs did you use pleaseeee

[surreal tundra]

Okok i opened the black friday

You told me

[nimble orchid]

YEAH thank you brotha

[inner delta]

Depressing

[nimble orchid]

🤣

[snow stone]

@vernal hamlet random knowledge for ya, lizard jade can apply curse on combo ender during deadzone

[native thicket]

I just started the tower cuz I just came back to the game, have none of the tower gear

[snow stone]

This is deff sus, @inner delta you see this?🤣

[native thicket]

Thanks for the help mate

[hasty saddle]

That’s such a boughten acc 💀😭🙏

Or hacked

[inner delta]

lmfaoooooooo

[vernal hamlet]

it’s not even hidden at this point

432k+ souls, 0 war banner change

[vernal hamlet]

help with what lol

[snow stone]

Real

BTW CHESS

[vernal hamlet]

@snow stone hey you should help them out with this

[kind bridge]

You have 2 of my favourite characters over there snoop and COS dog

My boys

[hasty saddle]

They all work really well

[snow stone]

LOL

Hackers are the worst players man

[snow stone]

I got him dont worry

Hey @hollow obsidian do you suppose that guys legit? I know he didnt use the word code but

[snow stone]

@bleak shuttle what do you think of the enemy AI spawn getting nerfed?

[devout turtle]

i want joker card nerf more tbh

[compact swift]

Is assassin skarlet the best skarlet?

[frank kelp]

how do i do this😭😭😭 learn the game bro😭 then maybe you could beat battle 60 w max diamonds😭😭😭

[bleak rover]

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[brave bison]

BOI NOT YOU TOO 😭

Ohhh she's still at f0 lvl 1

Uh

[bleak rover]

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[bleak shuttle]

well I like it - I hate mechanics where there is nothing you can do to stop it unless perma stun spam or sth

[frozen otter]

Any team for black dragon erron black?

[cinder lily]

basically anyone

you can go with 2 black dragon members, 2 day of the dead, 2 circle of shadow, all nomads (joker/spawn), previous regenades (joker/hellspawn scorpion), strike force, both terminators...

[cyan elm]

Both terminators would be lethal

[hard vine]

Any kard packs worth buying today?

[pearl orbit]

divine is pretty good

[hard vine]

Okie

[pearl orbit]

but ewp is better

if u havent gotten it

[hard vine]

What's ewp

[pearl orbit]

elemental warrior pack

but i think it ran out so mb

i forgot

[hard vine]

If it's good pour all my souls into it

[honest carbon]

Wow

Started to use kameos

[hard vine]

What. That didn't show up when I first got it

[hard vine]

Devine for fire god liukang?

[pearl orbit]

lmao they gave bro a tutorial

[pearl orbit]

no more or so for the raidens

[honest carbon]

all Jins (lost the battle tho)

Need to lvl him up

I'm good with f6

He's lvl17

[bleak rover]

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[fickle star]

Scorpion, noob, nightwolf

[bleak rover]

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[pearl orbit]

thats 1 crazy noob account

[fickle star]

No idea

[bleak rover]

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[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

WoW

[bleak rover]

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[hard vine]

I got FG liukang and both mk11 fujian and raiden

[slate peak]

Who should I use

[slate peak]

Scrop liu and rain or night wolf

[sage burrow]

BRO THAT IS NOT A NOOB ACCOUNT. its kinda crazy if you think about it

[honest carbon]

Besides that, it's a great start tho 👌

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Oh..

Speaking of mk11 jade..

I just got a fusion of her yayy

@rotund flare

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Mk11 liu?

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

LEO!!! THERE ALL ARE GOATED WHAT ELS U WANT 😭

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Domain expansion 🗿

I mean.. I open a lot of basic gold packs and dk packs, I have all the golds except karken, unstoppable Jason, os fujin

Having a lot of golds is good thing tbh

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

How many hearts u have now?

6k plzzzz

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

TF

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

where did u use 14k hearts on..

Oh..

How is she tho

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Dang

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Lemme know if she can fight 💀

[bleak rover]

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[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Oh.. so u like getting new characters

[rotund flare]

Same fusion like I.

[honest carbon]

Surprising

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

How old is your main acc tho,

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Can u send main kollection?

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Oh okok

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

I wish there was easy krypt

JK

I think u mean Hard and normal

[bleak rover]

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[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

That's base numbers let me show u the acutal stats

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Idk why it shows base numbers, why not add the stats too lol

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

I downloaded this game when there were free 10 spoon packs, and had soo many ways to get him too

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

I know u didn't miss him from the krypt store 😂

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Here have this then

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Bros my first diamond sell back

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Like

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Oww

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

It's been like less than 4 months since i created this acc I maxed him, I have a tip for you

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Open open only 3 packs at once not 1 or 2 or 10 just 3 packs. You will thank me

[solar parcel]

Packs with souls?

[honest carbon]

Anything

[solar parcel]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Uhhhh

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

That's a secret

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Go ahead then

[bleak rover]

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[solar parcel]

Do you get a Scorpion MK11 when you link your console?

[bleak rover]

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[solar parcel]

Ohhh a random

[bleak rover]

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[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Someone watching mandy 😑😑😑😑

[solar parcel]

Free pack?

[bleak rover]

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[hollow obsidian]

if you ask me it's a waste of time to keep refreshing

[bleak rover]

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[hollow obsidian]

it's better to just start playing. you'll get scorpion eventually

[honest carbon]

At the very beginning of your account u will get free garunteed diamond pack

[bleak rover]

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[hollow obsidian]

not worth

[hollow obsidian]

^

[honest carbon]

I did the same thing.

Got a fusion from free spoon packs

[bleak rover]

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[hollow obsidian]

if i'll ever make a [another] new account (why would i even do that to begin with?) i'll just use whoever i get, no need to keep reseting for 1 specific card

[honest carbon]

I had 600dk at start so i decided to buy a diamond fuse up and open few dk packs, as soon I hit f3 I used the fusion up.

[bleak rover]

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[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

I told u I came at the right time💀

Didn't wanna waste my time grinding

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Inbox

[bleak rover]

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[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

I mean opening 3 packs had more chances for me to get a diamond.

No matter who is it

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

🪦

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

BRUH

Beginnerrr

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

Uhhh mk11 noob

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

So u got mk11 jade in this acc lol

[bleak rover]

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[honest carbon]

It was all a test

[bleak rover]

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[compact swift]

Are there any equipment swaps i should do?

@snow stone

[tough tinsel]

Is this a good team chat

[snow stone]

Not sure what you mean

[compact swift]

Any better equipment pieces I should use vs then ones Im using rn

oh

the pictures didnt send lmfao

thats why ur confused

that makes a bit more sense

[compact swift]

@snow stone Sry idk wtf is going on with internet

[void pelican]

No

Mileena doesn't work well with them

She works well with females characters because of her passive (heal females characters including her when defeated an enemy)

[snow stone]

Uh, honestly I think you can do alot better, being epic doesnt mean its better

[compact swift]

Dats why i asked hehe 😄

[snow stone]

Also abyssal shadow in first slot is wild, its all about tagging into it lol

[void pelican]

You can read their buff

[compact swift]

He was second but I put on abysaal nightmare and didnt change et

Whoops

[tropic monolith]

So I’m new here and is this good enough rn

[tough tinsel]

Who would work well with them

[void pelican]

Show me your kollections

[tough tinsel]

Alright one sec

It’s not that good but

[void pelican]

Is that all?

You only have 2 diamonds?

So my first team would be

[void pelican]

This

Because you got no other good character except mileena

My 2nd team would be

Mileena klassic, Kombat cup Cassie and Tanya

Max level them out

It'd be my team for krypt or survivor

Because mileena can heal them while Tanya can do dots and Cassie would be main damage

Strategy : attack with Cassie until the enemy is low, then tag out mileena finish he/her off to get heal, then switch to Cassie again (her passive will makes you deal more damage to outsider)

[void pelican]

You can change mileena to Cassie if she's maxed later on

[tough tinsel]

Alright

Thanks

[hard vine]

Should i buy killer joke?

[oak brook]

Just bought one starter pack today and got the one i was looking for

[compact swift]

Whats the best boss killer team? not including kl ermac, i do more dmg than that alr

[fickle star]

Team soak

[compact swift]

guess im sticking with noob saibot spam for now cause raiden not high enough fusion

[native thicket]

What’s needed for team soak

[fickle star]

Klassic rain and a raiden

[native thicket]

Klassic rain klassic raiden and klassic liu kang?

[fickle star]

No

If you want to use kl raiden then you need hellspawn in the team

To spam xrays

Klk is good for the cripple when you tag between the other 2 and nunchaku for the fireball asssist

[native thicket]

So which raiden then

[fickle star]

Mk11 has the highest sp2 damage in the game and you can use him with fujin

Otherwise injustice is the easiest to use

[native thicket]

So klassic rain mk11 raiden and mk11 fujin?

[fickle star]

Kl rain is the core of the strat

I prefer rain, klk and inj raiden atm

[native thicket]

Damn my inj raiden only f1

[frank kelp]

can i get lizard team and klassic noob from regular challenge packs??

[fickle star]

No

Never open that pack, it's garbage

Also lizards aren't challenge characters

[stone bramble]

@snow stone @static spindle thoughts on the team? (up to suggestions)

[snow stone]

its great ig

[snow stone]

🧘‍♂️prob my favorite Mk11 team fr fr (nothing beats the goat mk11 liu kang tho)

(Forgot to switch mk11 shang tsung to the bench oopsie)

[native thicket]

Where’s my glorious king scorp

[frank kelp]

i have your team but f7 f8 f8😭😭

shang tsung is underrated imo, im running 3 of them and its so fun

[opaque rain]

its this good?

[hard vine]

Meh could be better

[hollow oar]

Who should I paid my mk1 mileena with or Joker

[hollow oar]

How do y’all make equipment so op

[oak brook]

Dis good ?

[warm bough]

yo i created a new acc, who should be in my team?
thanks

[snow stone]

Liu kang, scorpion and rain

[cinder lily]

No, why the transcorpion first? Did you read their passive?

[oak brook]

Talking about my luck

Or they just common ?

[cinder lily]

Common

[oak brook]

Aight

[honest carbon]

Good

[snow stone]

Ion like to play with him on my main

[hollow obsidian]

The mk11s

[hard vine]

When new kard packs

[livid walrus]

Good?

[snow stone]

i mean, ofcourse its a full lizard team.

[livid walrus]

Alr

[white trout]

The OG team

[barren cobalt]

Is mk11 rain good

[echo jasper]

You have a current team?

[echo jasper]

Yes

[surreal tundra]

I lost twice

[brave bison]

Vary vary good

[brave bison]

Real good lizard team 😁

[honest carbon]

Time to use the team everyone talk about especially @rotund flare

[rotund flare]

Not my team

My team is smokey boy scorp and shanf

Shang

Nob liu scorp

Hold up,wanna see my kl guys?

[honest carbon]

Yes

[hollow obsidian]

Scorp liu smonk

[honest carbon]

Nice, I'll try this on enraged battle

Ow nice

[ember nimbus]

Believe it or not, but with this trio i just finished regular boss200 in 2 rounds

If you sabotage klassic LiuKang with kombat cup Soña, still somehow he returns not as last opponent. Can't they fix that bug?!

[hard vine]

Bro where the hell is new kard packs???

What

[wraith flint]

Opneing 3 apck at once, before i usually open 10 pack

[hard vine]

You mean, 3 kard at once = luck go 📈📈📈???

[wraith flint]

😅

[hard vine]

[surreal tundra]

@snow stone You use Fujin??

Mk11

[snow stone]

Not really

[native thicket]

Floor 184 in fatal tower is my kryptonite

I hate this dude

[opaque rain]

what i should pick

[fickle star]

Any other mk11 instead of fire god

[opaque rain]

which mk11

[fickle star]

Try sindel

[opaque rain]

spamming with block breaker 💪

[fickle star]

Don't put sub0 first

[opaque rain]

why

[fickle star]

Cause if he dies, no revives

Never first

[opaque rain]

lk first then?

[fickle star]

Yeah, or sindel

[fickle star]

Mk11 sub0 and klk

[snow stone]

Ngl its getting real boring that every newbie just has an mk11 team... 0 creativity cuz its obviously gonna be optimal

[vernal hamlet]

how 2 make mk11 team more creative

use the “lesser” ones

I don’t care how much worse kabal is compared to the others, still very fun to use him strategically

[inner delta]

He's too busy w rotting

[oak brook]

Is my collection good ?

Also got any good team ideas i should use ?

[opaque rain]

i have 8 mk11 characters at 7 lvl