🤼-characters-and-teams

[wild spruce]

Those souls u wasted wojld have been better for the kc pack

[void pelican]

I wasted all my souls in gold packs

[wild spruce]

But kitana, ermac kc johnny, and triborg

Are priority

[void pelican]

I used to waste them on 400 souls pack

And get trash

[void pelican]

Which ermac

[wild spruce]

Also do the raiden challenge

[bleak rover]

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[wild spruce]

To gold

[void pelican]

I think I have fusion I gold ermac

[wild spruce]

To get 2 golds

[void pelican]

I did hard and easy

But elder, my out world is too weak

[void pelican]

Should I keep spending my souls on 150 souls pack

[wraith timber]

NO

[wraith timber]

If u were doing that rip

[void pelican]

I'm doing it for a while now

[bleak rover]

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[wraith timber]

Stop tbh

[void pelican]

Where should I spend my souls on then?

[bleak rover]

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[wraith timber]

Dismond packx

Packs*

Wait till Black Friday

[void pelican]

But they give trash golds right?

[wraith timber]

U will get golds easily

[void pelican]

When is that

[wraith timber]

A couple days now

[wild spruce]

I mean klassic

[wraith timber]

Less then 2 weeks

[wild spruce]

And no dont

[void pelican]

Well I better start saving

I have 3 souls

[bleak rover]

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[wild spruce]

If u see covert ops cassie on the character rotation buy her

[void pelican]

Is 1k enough for Black Friday

[wild spruce]

She will be very good on your daily run

[wild spruce]

2k max

[bleak rover]

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[wild spruce]

Minimum*

[void pelican]

I make 100 souls/day

So I need 20 days

[wild spruce]

Thats good

Try the ads

[void pelican]

I'm too lazy

[wild spruce]

Those are 50 souls a day

[wild spruce]

Ngl i feel you

[void pelican]

And also sometimes towers make 200/day

Depends if you're blessed that day or not lol

[bleak rover]

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[wraith timber]

Ehh

If ur gonna grind towers

F it

[bleak rover]

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[wild spruce]

Go for it

[bleak rover]

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[wild spruce]

Personally if u make 29 souls an hour it would be fine

[bleak rover]

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[void pelican]

Why is this challenge so broken

Elder for 5 dk, your team needs kung Jin and reptiles only

[bleak rover]

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[void pelican]

My reptile are Lv 1 and 17

Gold and silver

[wild spruce]

U should do 27 hours an hour

At least 27 x 8 and then 8 or 12 hours when u go to sleep

I personally do more than 400 souls a day

[bleak rover]

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[wild spruce]

By quests

[bleak rover]

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[wild spruce]

27 souls is fine

[bleak rover]

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[wild spruce]

27 x 8 hours is 216 i think

[wild spruce]

I do netherealm

[bleak rover]

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[wild spruce]

Ofc!

[devout jetty]

Is lizard team good for boss battles/ tower runs?

Jade f9, noob and baraka f6

[snow stone]

I did well with them

NT 200 in 3 attempts no tower gear

That was a FX but

[devout jetty]

Can you help me to beat ewt 200..?

Don’t have max equipment 😭

@snow stone

[snow stone]

Uh well, what are you trying rn, feel like you very well equipped for it

[ruby magnet]

below average

but his sp2 can regen hella lot HP

[void pelican]

Is he good for beginners like me in normal krypt or hard krypt?

[ruby magnet]

krypts? hahaha NO

[void pelican]

What about his dark version

Dark god or something

Dark lord to be exact

[ruby magnet]

ever worse

[void pelican]

I thought his sp2 is good

[hybrid kraken]

I wasted 6000 hearts on noob's brutality gear instead of getting a diamond fusion

Worth it or not

[vast vector]

focus on mk11 scorp mk11 liukang and klassic liukang

for golds focus on klassic scorpion

hanzo and ermac

[wise ledge]

thanks mate, how about mk11 raiden? he's f4

im still lvl 25 maybe he'll be useful?

[vast vector]

Yeah, he is your best character so its worth in investing in him

[ruby magnet]

you got yourself a soaked team

try using fujin along with raiden, you will get impressive results

[vast vector]

Yeah

[ruby magnet]

first use fujin's passive

and tag in using raiden (fujin is secretly a DOT character)

[vast vector]

Use
1.mk11 fujin, mk11 raiden and mk11 rain

[ruby magnet]

nah bro kl rain

kl rain provides the best debuffs

snare+ soaked

[vast vector]

2.kl rain, kl raiden kl liukang
3. mk11 scorp, mk11 liukang , mk11 sub

[ruby magnet]

mk11 rain has soaked on sp1 and ''chances'' to apply soak if he is bombarded with basics

[wise ledge]

thanks so much guys, i'll try all these combos

[wraith timber]

Raiden wsggg

[ruby magnet]

kl rain + kl raiden + mk11 fujin is the best to try if ur facing bosses

[wise ledge]

do you guys think all these diamonds are worth it ? ( got them for around 10 bucks)

[ruby magnet]

ayooo mah man

[ruby magnet]

ofc, you got the best diamonds in the game

you got urself a soaked team (for bosses) DOTs team (to melt enemies with high health)

[wise ledge]

perfect then 🙏 ❤️

[vast vector]

Dont forget to forge your talent tree

[ruby magnet]

for that you need to finish shao kahn's tower

[wraith timber]

W

[vast vector]

you cant use it right away?

[ruby magnet]

nah you need to accumulate talent points

[vast vector]

I have 100

[wise ledge]

yes i'm doing it every 12 hours

[ruby magnet]

so that you can fully max ur talent tree

and remember not to use more than 100 talent points

[wraith timber]

Klassic liu kang , klassic rain , klassic raiden for a second team?

[ruby magnet]

if you do so, ur talent tree will reset

[ruby magnet]

i would replace rain with smoke

[vast vector]

Yeah, thats why i told him

[wraith timber]

Oh

[vast vector]

Also, equipments are the most important part of the game, so try to buy the equipment pack

[wraith timber]

Ye prob tbh

[ruby magnet]

lk only for cripple

[vast vector]

i mean its good against bosses

lk

[wise ledge]

yes i dont have any equipement, but also dont have ( almost ) any silvers, and i heard that i should have some like kenshi to do challenges and early krypt difficulties

[ruby magnet]

in some cases bosses can be power drain immune, in those cases lk can rescue you

[wraith timber]

Lemme show my acc rq

[ruby magnet]

show it

[wraith timber]

Loading in rn

[ruby magnet]

well you can play krypt

it can reward you randomly

i totally forgot, even kl movie raiden is a boss killer

[wise ledge]

yeah i will try it again once it resets

[wraith timber]

He is?

Ppl called him trash

When I showed my kollection

[ruby magnet]

nah he's not thrash you told you that

his combo was unstoppable

you could just keep on going on and on and on

[vast vector]

hes not trash but its really boring to play him just bcs it takes so long to charge up

[ruby magnet]

imagine draining 10% of the bosses' health

[wraith timber]

Klassic liu kang is so fun to play with

[ruby magnet]

ik that's hard to master

[vast vector]

Klassic ermac

[ruby magnet]

he does it over time

[vast vector]

Still

[ruby magnet]

meanwhile you can drain as much HP as you can if ur using kl movie raiden's sp2

[vast vector]

yeah but that 10 percent isnt the max hp

[ruby magnet]

but you need to be skilled for that

[devout turtle]

Just use both then 😂

[vast vector]

just the current one

[ruby magnet]

one interruption and ur gone

so it'snot beginner friendly

kl ermac is still the best for beginners as you said

[devout turtle]

Another option is fujin hurricanes

As its % not dmg

So even f0 kl raiden can cut 10% hp with one sp2

[ruby magnet]

fujin's hurricanes drain like 1.6% hp per second

it's so broken

paired with soak it can soar upto 2%

[ruby magnet]

but that will take some time

kl movie raiden can drain 10% hp at an instant

there are many ways to get sp2 for free or less power cost

you can basically spam his sp2 to get the better out of ur foes

[devout turtle]

Personally i just go the forward way with either klk/sfjc

[wraith timber]

HOLY SHI HOW MUCH REVIVES DOES JASON HAVE IN TOWER 20

[vernal hamlet]

movie raiden’s meditation is 10% max hp for bosses

the only current % hp dmg would be kl raiden

[vast vector]

Yeah, but takes a long time to do it

[vernal hamlet]

anyways point is he’s like a manual kl ermac, you can do it it as many times as the timer allows, provided you can lock the opponent from attacking you during those times

stun and freeze mostly

[vast vector]

Looks like alot of conditions need to be met inorder for it to be useful. honestly its a pass for me

[quaint swan]

just make klassic raiden nomad at this point 🙏

[pearl orbit]

lmao fr bro is every class except nr

[rose sierra]

yo @kind bridge i js got kl jade

[coral crater]

@hollow obsidian Thanks to Noob's new epic, even MK11 Jade gets nuked by DOTs. The only ones who can survive this team are bosses 😂

[vernal hamlet]

what’s even funnier is that bosses of characters who heal from dots will also be affected

so the bosses “cheating” by getting affected by dots in dot immune modifier actually backfires on them

[coral crater]

Oh this friendly bug still exists? Oh, thank you NRS for making it less troublesome for me LOL

[fickle star]

Not a bug

[coral crater]

We don't mean where bosses heal from DOTs. We mean the bug where it damages them if they're affected by incurability while they're affected by DOTs

[fickle star]

I know

Not a bug

[vernal hamlet]

I guess the poison version was

so that’s why it’s gone

I will consider it their official statement, if they wanna let us melt mk11 jade bosses with an mk11 scorp, then it’s fine

[coral crater]

Damn, seriously? 😂 Oh well, RIP mk11 jade boss teams LOL

[hollow obsidian]

for towers i prefer to use tower armor on scorpion

[tranquil rain]

Hello how good is vampires mileena

[snow stone]

It totally is

[hollow obsidian]

healing should be stopped

[fickle star]

Dot healing takes priority over dot immunity

Then incurability disables the dot healing

But for the game it still has priority over immunity

[cinder lily]

It's just vanilla thing

[urban mountain]

Finally my lizard team is complete

[rotund flare]

Team: mk.scorp/2 liu kang

Strategy tag in and oht

Out

[void pelican]

Tag in and out with 2 liu kang?

Or scorpion?

My current team is mk11 scorp, subzero and liu kang

[rotund flare]

@void pelican

Level them up.

[void pelican]

My scorp are max

And btw is kabal worth leveling up

[rotund flare]

U apply cripple on tag in
Power drain or fire.

[void pelican]

Is kabal worth leveling up?

At f0

[rotund flare]

No.

At f5+ he can do something

[tranquil rain]

Dang I thought kabal is an a teir diamond

Is he at least better than skatlet and Nightwolf

[snow stone]

Healing yes, them taking damage no...

Its like, I know why it happens but it just shouldn't work like that

[next swan]

What is the best silver team composition

[ruby vessel]

Any team ideas?

[bleak shuttle]

you can also consider giving scorpion noob rare and applying that set up on skarlet. Reason being the vampire she has ((mileena mask) triggers noob weapon on scorpion that applies DM (which counters annoying SF Scorpion, MK11 SZ or ressurection modifiers)

that team has 1 real counter - shielded

[coral crater]

Ingenious! I was thinking about what other gears to add, and this truly is helpful. I didn't know much about Noob's new rare as I haven't been bothering much about the new stuff, but that rare turned out to be the solution to all my problems 😆 Sadly both my rare and shinka are at f1, but they should work still anyways. I will use this set up. Many thanks!

[bleak shuttle]

check it out in action
#🏯-towers-relic-hunt message

[coral crater]

Thanks a lot. Exactly what I need atm given to the fact that I'm too bored of playing, but still want to collect just in case we have a really good update coming in the future

[devout jetty]

Best team for ewt?

[bleak shuttle]

the game became way too easy with those kameos indeed 😦

[hollow obsidian]

Then don't use kameos

[bleak shuttle]

it is slighly harder

I need a real challenge

new gamemode, no tower gear, no konsumables

fatal tower is boring like hell...they don't even stand a chance

[coral crater]

It's not the difficulty. The game feels more and more buggy every update. The game crashes every 10 minutes. The game sometimes doesn't respond to tapping, and getting trapped in an endless loop by the enemy AI is more frequent. Our AI keeps getting worse, which makes me feel forced to go back to doing everything manually. The game is crying for a huge optimization to make gameplay fun, and it seems to me it's getting too much neglect

That's why I'm using the DOTs team now. I want the battle to end fast so that I can do other things that don't involve me getting trapped by the opponent's BS AI

[fickle star]

No

[soft gale]

Is this team good for faction war and krypt )

[pure estuary]

Should I change the scorpion

??

[pure estuary]

For the krypt huh for the faction wars it’s quite good

[foggy carbon]

you guys are very good i dont even have a level 50

[warped thistle]

I’ve been at 60 for sooo long possibly years and I have no maxed out diamonds

[pure estuary]

Why bro

[vernal hamlet]

probably just lack of play/grind

[pure estuary]

Ohh

[vernal hamlet]

yea you can max diamonds usually after a year or so of full playing, but you gotta know what to do

at least now it’s way easier because diamond fuse ups exist in krypt

and also summon packs

[soft gale]

How it is different ?

Beside level and fusions

[vernal hamlet]

if you’re playing normal or hard krypt which I assume you are, there’s going to be aftershock tremor or kombat cup sonya battles everywhere

and this means your kitana can easily be forced in and just die instantly

unless you plan to give her stun resistance, health, and maybe some offensive gear so she can fight back and stall until you can tag back to your main fighters

[pearl orbit]

@vernal hamlet i wanna try a dot team but i dont have ass skarlet. who should i use?

[soft gale]

I plan to focus on pexing my kitana

Even If I have better f diamond

[vernal hamlet]

klassic reptile, mk11 scorp, ravenous mileena also works

[soft gale]

F5 mk11 scorpion

[vernal hamlet]

and there’s 2 characters who boost some types of dot dmg if you don’t have mileena

triborg sektor for 30% more fire dmg and noxious reptile for 30% more bleed and poison dmg

[soft gale]

Yeah I have that one team also

Too bad it doesn't work on boss

What are the best anti bosses teams ?

[pearl orbit]

i have mileena at f0

[vernal hamlet]

thas fine cuz she’s there to double the dot dmg

[pearl orbit]

tho my kreptile is also f0 or f1

[inner delta]

That's jax gng

[void pelican]

Check again

[inner delta]

Bro edited and put Jack😭😭

Lmfaoooo

[bitter sonnet]

photoshop skills a 100

[inner delta]

Jonkler

Peak

[bitter sonnet]

joker and the 2 liu kans and klassic rain

[void pelican]

Mk11 Jade isn't good enough to focus on?

And also mk11 rain

[tranquil rain]

Mk11 rain is not good for me

I try him on my 2nd acc and I don’t like using him

U open dk pack?

[amber iron]

Need teams for Krypt and Tower...help please? Having to use consumables a lot sucks in krypt.

[patent fern]

Guys

Can u rate my diamonds

[void pelican]

Yes

I gót 1/2 diamonds

1/2 packs open and got 1 diamond

[tranquil rain]

Which diamond did you get

[rugged berry]

They did not produce any related content, but it was sold in advance 🙃. The opponent's health bar did not display the "brutality" prompt( Shang Tsung is already wearing brutality suit ).

[cinder lily]

Tell me, which brutality does triborg have

[void pelican]

Mk11 jade

[tranquil rain]

You can focus on others character with a high fusion since jade cant replace ur main/current lineup

[wooden cedar]

I need to see a full noob saibot team

And a video of a player getting jumped by noob saibots

[rotund flare]

It got deleted for a reason

[void pelican]

It's fan made lol

[rotund flare]

They dont like when people post this.

[void pelican]

I learn photoshopping on YouTube tutorial

How is it

[rotund flare]

We usually joke in general chat..

Is good.

[snow stone]

Best*****

[hollow obsidian]

Among the best

[vast vector]

Whos the best for you

[hollow obsidian]

none

[cinder lily]

weird way to spell mk11 liu kang

[hollow obsidian]

i didn't stutter

i don't find anyone as "the best"

but there are some that are among the best

[snow stone]

Oh hey, something we can agree on lol

[hollow obsidian]

and i have only 2 tiers if i am to make a list: "among the best" and "the rest"

[vast vector]

Alright then , who do you consider among the best?

[vast vector]

crazy because he aint even the best liu kang lmao

[hollow obsidian]

i'm too lazy to add mk1 kenshi and dk noob

[cinder lily]

bd kabal not among the best?

[vast vector]

Whats your strongest team you'd say

[hollow obsidian]

he is the best option for sneak attacks

[hollow obsidian]

none

there is no "best" overall

but best for something? sure

[vast vector]

like imagine you can only use 1 team and you have to use it against bosses and normal battlles

[hollow obsidian]

my main team

[vast vector]

like a team with the least weaknesses because all teams do

[vast vector]

which is

[cinder lily]

sfs, hss and kl raiden

[vast vector]

what

whats hss

[cinder lily]

Strike Force SCorpion, Hellspawn Scorpion and Klassic Raiden

that's his main team

[vast vector]

Blasphemy

[cinder lily]

no tower gear is sad

[vast vector]

W team , but i dont have hellspawn scorpion. whats a good alternative you'd say?

[steep helm]

should i complete the shao kahn tower?

[hollow obsidian]

why should i bother with tower gear on that team when they can beat elder survivor on auto?

[vast vector]

?

[cinder lily]

Shaolin Kung Jin

[steep helm]

Nah bojutsu kung jin

[snow stone]

What ronin kenshi doesnt make the cut? Lol

Also ass skarlet, since shes part of the best DoT setups

[hollow obsidian]

Yeah well I don't find either skarlet or ronin kenshi to be that good

They are still good

[snow stone]

You dont project the DoT team to be worthy?

[hollow obsidian]

well dots don't work on bosses and shielded

[snow stone]

I dont find mk11 scorpion to be particularly amazing vs bosses either, tbh

[hollow obsidian]

as much as i hate using mk11 scorp i have to admit that he is among the best characters in the game

[snow stone]

Not for bosses, but overall ofc

[bleak shuttle]

how is that even debatable 😛

[hollow obsidian]

but on a favorite list he will be bottom 3 =)))

[bleak shuttle]

why would any1 debate on that 😄

you can like whatever

on your list btw I agree with all apart from mk1 takeda

even If I put my personal feelings aside...he is a regular sp2 spammer. Nothing special about himm

A- at best

0 support value, 0 value at f0

unreliable shields

[hollow obsidian]

why would i care about a character at f0 when the scope of this game is to fuse your characters?

it's not like any diamond will stay at f0 forever

[snow stone]

Fenix were so alike

[snow stone]

I despise this arguement from people so much

"What if a character was at his weakest point, would you still like him" tf?

[hollow obsidian]

we're not in 2015 where we needed 1-1.5 weeks to get 112 souls for a basic gold

[snow stone]

Obviously, im gonna talk about a character being a good fusion

I guess once I saw you have mk1 scorp among the best I knew lol

[hollow obsidian]

i have him on that list since he was released

[bleak shuttle]

`Because that is a HUGE way to assess a character value for multiple reasons. And we cacn turn your arguement on its head. Do you always have maxed out account like yours? No, you don't

so a characterr working early / mid / late is better than a character that works mid and late , can we agree

[hollow obsidian]

i've played this game long enough to not care about f0 or fx characters

[snow stone]

No its not, I just dont use F0 characters

No one should

If your new, use golds

[hollow obsidian]

if i like a character i just use it

[bleak shuttle]

ok so we are only ranking characters based on our acccounts. Like in 99.9 % of the cases the players who ask 'is a character goood?" are ppl with maxed accounts?

[snow stone]

I dont care about the value of a character at their weakest point

Im not ranking them by how bad they could be

[bleak shuttle]

on my account then every character is S

[snow stone]

More than 99.9% of players have characters above F0, actually

[bleak shuttle]

as I can beat every fight with any characterr

[snow stone]

So yes, its a useless metric

[bleak shuttle]

development of an account is a useless metric. What matters is which character you pick to use on a maxed accountn? are you kidding me???

[snow stone]

That is literally not even close to what I said

[bleak shuttle]

You know COS Jax can beat everything on my account - so he is S

[snow stone]

I said use the character you have fused

[snow stone]

That is not what im ranking

Tell me where I said

[hollow obsidian]

if i am to start again (why would i even do that?) i would still choose characters i enjoy using over the ones that are quote on quote "best at f0"

[snow stone]

"They can be used to beat F200 so theyre S tier"

I dont rank characters by their ability to beat content

[devout turtle]

My point tbh is all debuffer are good since day 1 of getting it while dps get better the higher its stats (no matter fusion or gear etc)

[snow stone]

Just like I think shang is mid

[hollow obsidian]

which one?

[snow stone]

His dps sucks, I dont care he has an infinite

[snow stone]

Mk1

[bleak shuttle]

That is fine but then it is a most favorite rather then best unless your way to rank good or bad is equal to fun and not fun regardless of how good the character actually is. I have 2 exception - mk1 takeda and LF. For the rest liking or disliking doesn't matter.

[snow stone]

Its not favorite

[hollow obsidian]

mk1 takeda is not in the game yet

[devout turtle]

I will just say we all are old player so when we talk we talk about high fusion chars most of the time , mandy point is to help newbies rather than us who know the game better , still my opinion is debuffer just debuffers they do their job (but also have their limitations)

[hollow obsidian]

With how easy it is to get souls (and dks) nowadays, it won't take long for beginners to start fusing diamonds

Some diamonds will be harder to fuse indeed, but the rest are easy to fuse

[snow stone]

Thats silly. Does a character move up a tier because in a year having them higher fusion is more common? Whats the point

"Oh mk1 scorp is A tier, and S tier in a year cuz he will be FX, very useful"

Im ranking characters objectively as the character themselves, I dont need to cater to specific kollections

[devout turtle]

You didn’t get my point yet , a char is the same nevertheless the fusion , i just try to clear the argument 😂

[bleak shuttle]

you said "I dont care about the value of a character at their weakest point". So you are saying for you it DOESN'T matter if a character can be effective at f0. Yes or no

[snow stone]

I dont care about their fusion or level at all

Its not part of my ranking, and never will be

[bleak shuttle]

why

[snow stone]

Because literally everyones account is in a different state. Why cater my ranking to any particular collection

[bleak shuttle]

If a complete beginner gets MK11 Scorpion + Ravenous Mileena + Noob epic compared to if he gets mk11 Raiden + MK1 Takeda + whatever epic at f0 , which account will progress faster

[snow stone]

All it does is create bias towards DoT effects

They are not always useful

[hollow obsidian]

for a beginner it will take time to get noob's fs epic

[snow stone]

I dont rank based on who will make progression faster either

[bleak shuttle]

well I do, you think that isn't important???

[snow stone]

Why are you so obsessed with speedrunning with characters

[snow stone]

Not at all, I would make a completely different tierlist catered to that

My "newbie" tierlist is vastly different than my power ranking tierlist

[bleak shuttle]

ok so we agree that this is important. So having the CORRECT characters early will benefit your account right

[snow stone]

Trying to encompass that again only creates bias

[snow stone]

I dont care

Im not ranking for early progression

[bleak shuttle]

it isn't JUST mk11 scorpion, there are characters likke Joker, Fujin, SF Scorpion etc

[snow stone]

Im not ranking progression at all

Its a pointless metric in my power ranking

If I was worried about newbies, again it would literally not be the same tierlist

[bleak shuttle]

Again, if a guy in discord asks you "which is the best character" , is it more likely that this is a guy with 1. Maxed account, 2. Weakk account

[snow stone]

I dont care

He can be at any progression level

Every gold with a DoT is better than every diamond without one early game

So what?

[bleak shuttle]

so imagine a guy who is at his 2nd week in the game askinng you who is the best character and you respond from a perspective of your maxed account that you played 5 + years that eventually if you have 3 epics and 5 rares MK1 Takeda can solo f 200?

do you think that this guy cares about that

[snow stone]

I dont imagine that guy

I dont care, if hes a new player stop looking at tierlists made for power ranking

Go find one for early game

[bleak shuttle]

yeah so mine is a mixture of all

[snow stone]

And it creates biases

[bleak shuttle]

I recognize both stages of the game - early and mid

to me end game doesn;t matter

[snow stone]

Like mk1 scorpion is the 3rd best boss killer in the game

But you will bias him down

Because he isnt useful early game

Whats the point

Is your tierlist useless endgame then?

Why rank them

Should I have a diagram of what stage of gameplay my tierlist applies to?

All these factors eliminated when you ignore kollections and try to be objective instead. Im sure my tierlist is filled with my own bias but its not made with the intent to do so unlike yours

[bleak shuttle]

because end game it DOES NOT MATTER. Every character can win everything.

[snow stone]

So then your tierlist is useless to me

[hollow obsidian]

and to me

[snow stone]

Ok, so ill ignore it and make my own

Thanks

[bleak shuttle]

LOL you need ME to tell YOU who is the best?

come on

[snow stone]

No, I need you to stop implying my method is wrong

Because yours is literally useless to me, as of your own words

I can factor whateverI want

If you want a tierlist that is useless to yourself, be my guest

Im not following

[bleak shuttle]

I believe it is wrong based on the fact that majority of the people who wanna know who is the best are not veterans with maxed accounts. But you can have your tierlists. I don't mind. I can disagree with them the same way you can disagree with mine. But we AGREED that a character that is good at f0 is important, it is just that for YOU this doesn't matter

[snow stone]

There is no better way to tierlist

It is not some moral argument

[snow stone]

No, I agreed its an important metric to a beginner tierlist

I have not made one and probably never will

[bleak shuttle]

I will take that. IT is something

[snow stone]

But I ranked their power and potential

Kollection, early game, F0 level 1 whatever it isnt a factor to mine

[bleak shuttle]

I started from scratch 3 times, I challenge you to do the same and your perspective will suddenly change 😄

[snow stone]

If someones potential is static, that does not raise their ranking

Everyone knows mk11 fujin can do the same thing F0 and FX, that doesnt move him up a tier for me

For you, it seems to. Cool, but dont imply mine is wrong

[bleak shuttle]

I have tons of experience on a beginner account and on a maxed account so it is easy to me to see that ranking characters on maxed account is pointless because every character can win every fight

[thorn aurora]

I'm just gonna let this play out🍿

[devout turtle]

This argument never end

[snow stone]

Everyone can win doesnt mean some are no longer better than others

I dont really get the point of that

[bleak shuttle]

if a character A can win a fight and character B can with the fight, which character is better

[snow stone]

Whoever did it easier, less gear, faster

[bleak shuttle]

why do you care about thhat? your account is maxxed, you are playing for fun

[snow stone]

Because im ranking their power, not their odds to win a fight

[bleak shuttle]

but every character on a maxed account can win ANY fight and I WILL Prove it

[snow stone]

I dont care

[bleak shuttle]

pick me ANY team to beat ANY fight

[snow stone]

I can do the same, so what

[bleak shuttle]

and I will beat it on my account

there is no odds , I will win

[snow stone]

Thats cool man, who did it faster easier with less gear tho?

[thorn aurora]

Kabal, Ninjustsu Scorpion, And Cryromancer Sub Zero

[bleak shuttle]

why less gear, it is maxed account? Are you going to say now at f0?

😎

[snow stone]

Im not ranking on account progression, if someone doesnt rely on gear they are stronger

Im ranking the character

[thorn aurora]

Kabal, Ninjustsu Scorpion, And Cryromancer Sub Zero

[bleak shuttle]

so by the same logic if someone does NOT rely on FUSION he must be the best??? @snow stone

[snow stone]

No lol, your trying so hard to have a gotcha moment

Cant you just discuss with an understanding

[bleak shuttle]

I just did 😛

you started downgrading

why? just use your maxed out stuff and compare

[snow stone]

Oh man

[thorn aurora]

Actually Switch Kabal With Classic Noob Saibot

[snow stone]

When you wanna argue with some honesty let me know. Im tired of the games man

It isnt a competition who can one up here

[devout turtle]

Its pretty pointless too

[bleak shuttle]

I love those debates :p

[thorn aurora]

You know what?

What are you two arguing Abt?

Maybe I can help

I like debates too

[snow stone]

Its not a debate man, I have made no intent to undermine your words

[bleak shuttle]

hmmm it was whether a character being good at f0 should be considered in your tier list

[snow stone]

Im taking you in goof faith

You are not doing the same back

[thorn aurora]

Can I join the debate?

[bleak shuttle]

yes

[thorn aurora]

Well what's the debate about?

[bleak shuttle]

whether a character being good at f0 should be considered in your tier list

if you say that a character is S

for example and he doesn't do anything at f0

[devout turtle]

Rainbow rank for efficiency on pure passive/sp/pg/basics , while mandy rank them in low stats to mid game at same but for which easier to access and clear without investment .
2 are different ranking so no need to even argue about it

[thorn aurora]

Nvm

This too complicated

You two have fun

[fickle star]

[bleak shuttle]

[snow stone]

It won't be, thanks

Thats not changing

[thorn aurora]

Dawg I'm a noob I don't understand any of dis😭

[fickle star]

I'll just use my influence once again like I did for years when people were saying klk was better than mk11 scorpion

[snow stone]

Lmao

[bleak shuttle]

I can live with that 😄 but at least I tried

[fickle star]

And convert people to MK1 scorp

[snow stone]

Scorpion only want to burn

[fickle star]

Mkm jesus is here

[thorn aurora]

"GET OVER HERE"

[fickle star]

But yeah ranking f0 character is stupid, tier lists should put everybody at their full potential not their minimum

If we wanna rank for beginners sure but that's its own list

It doesn't apply to anything other than early game

[bleak shuttle]

I rank for beginners, I don't rank for veterans

[devout turtle]

Which i just said 😂

[bleak shuttle]

I believe they don't need my advice , like I will never ask another veteran "is mk1 takeda good"

[snow stone]

Doesnt that just enforce you believing your own opinions and never trying new things

Regardless of your tierlist, that doesn't really seem that great

I like to learn new things about characters, if someone puts a character in S I dont, I go ahead and try them more, see new strats. Maybe I missed something?

[bleak shuttle]

no, I tried super op set ups with many characters that I consider B and still I consider B because I don't care how good they perform on a maxed out account

[snow stone]

Doesnt mean ill change but at least functionally trying

[snow stone]

If by super OP setups you mean FX epics that are generically strong then no, I dont mean those scenarios

[bleak shuttle]

because once again: every character with great set of epics can perform great on a maxed account, ranking is pointless

[snow stone]

"Wow this guys good with ceremonial pipe"

Id they dont bring unique synergies I disregard tho

[fickle star]

https://tenor.com/view/texas-chainsaw-massacre-the-texas-chainsaw-massacre-leatherface-gif-26643685

[bleak shuttle]

which scenarios do you mean then

[snow stone]

Like scepter on sub zero has very inherit synergy

If I thought all sub zeroes sucked because I didn't know of that setup, it might change my mind

Obviously, that's a clear and intended synergy

But thats not all thats used

Like stalker sight on klassic raiden is insane

[fickle star]

Me when I saw your scorpion video and decided to get him from F3 to f9 in a month lol

[snow stone]

Its not a very obvious synergy at first

[snow stone]

🤷‍♂️

It works, ive learned things here plenty too

[fickle star]

Didn't even know about block stalling before that

But it's actually really good to infinite with him

[snow stone]

And hes far from the only character that benefits from doing it

Its basically the first thing I test on every new character lol, because it leads to incredibly smoother chaining

[fickle star]

Who else?

Btw MK1 mileena DK pack is out

[snow stone]

I feel like thats kinda late lol

[vast vector]

Why not make a tierlist for both then? one for veterans and one for beginners

[thorn aurora]

You two finally done?

[snow stone]

I mean I do it so often its so second nature to me lol, im not sure how many have like great benefits from it mk1 scorp shows.

I do think block stalling might be the single most underrated strat in the game though. Lizard jade is really good at it, thats one off the wall because she usually basic chains poorly

One of the biggest flaws in most characters is a hard knock or launching combo ender, and it just fixes it completely lol

[bleak shuttle]

Yeah but that is a good example. Klassic raiden doesn't need fusion OR specific gears to be great. Don't you think that is advantage?

He is plug and play from day 1

[cinder lily]

Bros never learnt to not argue with a wall

[snow stone]

I dont think hes that great in multiple scenarios, where that synergy does alot of the heavy lifting on my opinion of him

Again, obviously everyone is great when you spam FX epics on them... but synergies that uniquely stand out and are strong have merit

[bleak shuttle]

I agree on that

[snow stone]

I think thats kinda a big fault in this game, is theres serverly less of those in the game. Mko had 1/5th on the combinations of "gear" and yet the synegies going on absolutely blow this game away

[bleak shuttle]

where we mainly disagree is whether we should exclude the beginning or the end of the account lifecycle. I remove the end, you remove the beginning

in terms of measuring a character worth / being good / mid or bad

[pure estuary]

Because of the fusion bro

[soft gale]

I'm planning to f her

Anyway I have the solution

I have equipment that provides shield and vampirism so she won't be vulnerable to tremor

[snow stone]

Your planning to what

[soft gale]

FUSION

I MEANT FUSION

(I did the same mistake with Erron I really feel ashamed)

[vernal hamlet]

oh you also wanted to f erron?

I mean there’s no shame in that

[soft gale]

I love Erron

[surreal salmon]

😭😭

[pure estuary]

Finally my team is X all now guys

[pure estuary]

Yeahh bro

[molten crater]

I am new acc

[wheat turret]

I love this kung lao

[trail onyx]

Which units should I use?

[coarse bison]

First one

Mk11 scorp is my fav card

[thorn aurora]

What screen recorder do you use?

I'm trying to a find a screen recorder with internal audio

[molten crater]

YEAHHH

[snow stone]

Gotta love this team for krypt

[wheat turret]

I use Xrecorder,but I have a modded version so I can have the pro unlocked

[thorn aurora]

Ight thx👍

[wheat turret]

Np bro

[snow stone]

Most phones have that

Usually they have settings to check and see if thats enabled

You dont need any special recording app

[wheat turret]

I also have a build-in one,but Idk I think the quality or I had some issue with it in the past that's why I don't use it,I also made the settings for it

[warped thistle]

Hey guys which team is better don’t mind the fusion level

[fickle star]

Don't you have a third kold war character?

Second team needs kl raiden instead of reptile

[warped thistle]

Yeah but I like Mileena better than scorpion or subzero as her passive helps Scarlets bleed DOT and she has regen on her special 2

[warped thistle]

I WISH I had klassic raiden

[fickle star]

Nah sub0 is the better option

[warped thistle]

Why?

[fickle star]

Skarlet likes to use SP2, the bleed on SP1 isn't that meaningful to use mileena

[fickle star]

Synergies with other KW characters

Frostbite on specials, reduced power gen for the enemy, increased power gen and all that

[warped thistle]

I forgot about frostbite

But I almost never notice the increased power gen when using him

[fickle star]

Still a better option that mileena trust

[warped thistle]

I do have a KW team tho

[fickle star]

Yeah that's the best KW team

I show mine

[hollow obsidian]

We have the same on sonya and almost the same on sub

[fickle star]

Standard Sonya build lol

Kwt was made for her

[warped thistle]

But when are we gonna get kold war Kano 🤔

[pearl orbit]

which team is better for (f)ewt?

(ignore jacqui's specials, i keep forgetting to lvl em up)

@vernal hamlet

[vernal hamlet]

giving me a hard choice here

[pearl orbit]

lol

[vernal hamlet]

first team is prob better for bosses

unless in the 2nd team, u replace sonya with covert ops cassie

cuz johnny wit 0 block breaker rn

[pearl orbit]

yh lol im kinda struggling with that part but i cant do anything rlly

sonya helps if theres mk11 sindel (esp if boss)

[vernal hamlet]

there might be some battles where sonya isn’t needed, you can just use both jacqui and johnny to beat em up

[pearl orbit]

last time i fought an mk11 sindel boss she used her stun 5 TIMES

[vernal hamlet]

hanzo and tremor are very safe vs sandstorm tho

[vernal hamlet]

yea she do dat

[pearl orbit]

wait wdym

[vernal hamlet]

any sort of stun looping or unblockable stun works good

even if u lose dmg cuz u can’t crit well

[pearl orbit]

ooh

[pearl orbit]

would it work if i changed jacqui?

[vernal hamlet]

yea

[pearl orbit]

cuz she kinda weak

25-30k max on sp1 is insane

[vernal hamlet]

well u said you haven’t upgraded her specials bruh

[pearl orbit]

nah bruh i just did

[vernal hamlet]

her sp2 is actually kinda a nuke

that’s why

it also gives power gen so you can spam it like every 5 seconds

so sp1 is just to power drain

u could just trap opponents forever with weak point attacks talent

and keep blasting with sp2

[pearl orbit]

ill try

i just kinda used her for power gen and to get the tag out shield

[vernal hamlet]

that’s also good

[vast vector]

any advice on what equipment for each?

[cinder lily]

don't stack block breakers

[vast vector]

why

[cinder lily]

it doesnt add like "20+30"

so basically you are wasting a slot

[vast vector]

u fr

aint no way

[cinder lily]

Block Breakers is the only one iirc that doesn't stack

So if you have 30% and 20% then you get: 30%+ (1-30%*20%) = 44%

[vernal hamlet]

they aren’t additive yea

there are only a few reasons why you would put on multiple pieces of block breaker
1: you don’t trust a single individual piece to do it (like 30% or less)
2: the enemy has block breaker reduction (one of the piece’s bb chance will negate the reduction)
3: you are using fx midnight stalker’s sight

in your case it’s prob fine cuz you don’t have fx block breaker pieces

[vernal hamlet]

it’s also kinda like pieces that have chance to apply debuff

like if you were to “stack” fx decoy invitation and shintai of fortune

both 50% chance for power drain on sp1 but doesn’t become 100% just 2 separate instances

in block breaker’s case it’s worse because hitting 2 block breaker chances at the same time doesn’t do anything

[devout turtle]

They work separately iirc (roll a dice 30% if hit then bb if not roll again 20% and so on) but yeah one is enough mostly (can always block then retaliate ; normal way) but in bosses you can do with 2 to maintain dps

[devout turtle]

@vast vector

[bleak shuttle]

it isn't additive but it does increase your chance to break block

if you have 1 piece that gives 50 % chance to break block and another 1 with the same chance, they are both evaluated separately. So if the first fails, the second gets evaluated, so the chance of both failing is lower

but it isn't calculated 50 + 50

it is not 100 but your chance in the above scenario to break the block increase from 50 to 75

[vernal hamlet]

I think just about every aspect of the mechanic has all been explained

but where is he now

[bleak shuttle]

yeah, so many different explanations 😄

[vast vector]

so having 2 bb gears isnt worth it unlesse sp

unless someone uses anti bb gear

[vast vector]

then what should i use on liukang and scorpion then? power gen?

[vernal hamlet]

yea power gen another great option

[vast vector]

its a great option, but is it the best?

[bleak shuttle]

or unless you know that if you FAIL to break the block you are dead....e.g. you have f0 character vs super strong tower enemy 😛

[vast vector]

Or do i use shirai ryu on scorp?

[vernal hamlet]

the other stuff favored would be any dmg boost gears, debuff resistance, crit chance stuff, or even bonus effects on specials

just anything that generically helps out in fighting

[cinder lily]

that asscorp is the only one who doesn't have stun

if you have any other cc boost/damage boost use it

[vernal hamlet]

mk1 and klassic

[cinder lily]

those are scorpion, not asscorp

[vernal hamlet]

well then there doesn’t need to be the “only one” statement since he is in his own category

[cinder lily]

spectral chains gives a special feature to 2 different characters too

scorpion/smoke: pull

[vernal hamlet]

now if we also had an mk1 smoke

[cinder lily]

no I'd rather Reiko/Ashrah/Havik/Li Mei, getting reskins of existent characters is boring, like @coral crater said

so we can get new legacy gear too

[bleak shuttle]

Mk1 baraka or ermac as well

[coral crater]

Gove me reiko in particular and I'll finally die happy 😂

[cinder lily]

Shuriken could be his legacy gear

[coral crater]

I can imagine him performing mk4 attacks (which sadly will never happen) but shuriken will still be nice anyways!

[void pelican]

Mk1 shao Kahn should fix current shao kahn because he's not that great

[nocturne forum]

so he’s not worth getting like at all?

[thorn aurora]

Alright I decided to rank every mk mobile diamond character because why not

The characters that are at the very bottom are the ones I haven't used yet

[cinder lily]

That's alright, this is mine

I think I'll move goro 1 tier up

he's decent with stalker's sight

[thorn aurora]

I would put MK11 kabal higher but it's ok

[snow stone]

Kabal is not to good, especially rn when hes bugged

[thorn aurora]

Fr? I'm not experiencing any issues using him

[cinder lily]

he's higher, black dragon at least

[snow stone]

Hes supposed to remove stun from his teammates and doesnt

[cinder lily]

he can't fully remove stun

[thorn aurora]

Oh

Ok then

[snow stone]

Ever since mk11 liu came out he dropped off for me, I know hes more open and less maintenance but bringing liu is just so much stronger unless im doing no tag

[cinder lily]

Kabal has sneak attacks with no need to tag-in and out, plus applies curse on tag-in and has unblockable when his hp is lower than 50% iirc

I tried the combo BD Kabal + Meat's Cleaver... tasty

[snow stone]

Like I said, I know hes more open its just... I dont think hes to good overall

Plus I do alot of no tower gear runs and so below 50% hp means hes dead lmao

I think I just hate how kabals feel without speed

[thorn aurora]

The only reason I would put Kabal higher is simply because he's my favorite lol

[snow stone]

So hes kinda just there as a passive but I can get my liu to do the same with a way better special and basic strings

[snow stone]

I definitely like kabal, I played him alott throughout mk history but just doesnt hold up in this game for me sadly

Umk3 and mk9 especially, what a god

[thorn aurora]

Don't forget mk Unchained

[cinder lily]

and in MK1 now he's Shekabal

[thorn aurora]

If anyone even remembers that game

Kabal

Come back in mk1 pls

[cinder lily]

Shekabal

[void pelican]

I mean he's decent but you should not focus on him too much

[wraith flint]

Beaten 185 with dis kol red card team , dont have any high fusion character that suit for battle except those three. Took 3 tries, mk11 jade passive is very bad for my weak team 😅

Then i used dot team for 189 for rain team (hex, regen), he can't manage bleed and fire at once, i keep taged in and out 😅

Thanks and hve a nice day, also goodluck who jave low fusion eq for dis tower like me 👍

[pearl orbit]

@vernal hamlet whats a good teammate for mk11 scorp? rn im using sub0 and shang (mk11)

+sorry for ping

[vernal hamlet]

mk11 noob, liu, sindel also works

and don’t worry about it cuz sometimes I stalk in here until someone needs help

[snow stone]

👁👁

[vernal hamlet]

you don’t need help

[cyan elm]

Somehow got mk1 mileena in my first 4 packs

[daring grove]

Nice team

Is it possible to get a spawn in your first pack cuz I just got him😧

[void pelican]

Yes it is

[polar geode]

Max level Klassic Liu Kang. Klassic Rain and FX Silver Kenshi.

FX kenshi paired with silver spec ops + silver scorpion is about 65k health with some gear (20% HP) and can solo normal krypt with block breaking gear.

Klassic lk + klassic rain + klassic sonya can be a really good team.

[daring grove]

Oh

[polar geode]

For arctic wind, mk11 sub zero, scorpion and mk11 liu kang team with hawk stance talent.

Just max level them already bro.

[void pelican]

I'm lazy

[daring grove]

Same

I don’t really feel like sleeping idk why

[void pelican]

Also I somehow got more hearts in normal krypt than in hard krypt

[daring grove]

oh ok congrats

[polar geode]

You should be able to beat normal krypt and normal challenges with FX 60 Kenshi

[void pelican]

Yeah I beat it with FX 37 kenshi, FX 36 ermac, FII sub triborg 25

[polar geode]

That's nice bro. I am moving towards hard but its very difficult for me. I can only clear one floor

[void pelican]

I Beated hard twice actually

But I didn't clear it

I just choose easier battle and use a lot of consumeable

[snow stone]

@bleak shuttle I like your new video, gotta say I agree with basically all of it, good stuff

[bleak shuttle]

😱

what ? really?

[snow stone]

Yep yep, crazy right? Lol

[bleak shuttle]

let's argue about mk1 takeda now

😎

[fickle star]

S+

Ofc when rerolling is not all you care for

[bleak shuttle]

🥷🏻

[snow stone]

I really hope at this point they do add mk1 takeda and hes like a better mk11 scorp so all the old arguments can be shown in bad faith 🙂

[bleak shuttle]

nooooo that would destroy the whole mk1 takeda thing

[snow stone]

Also mand, are you ready for a black friday with 0 packs that help your account?

Gonna be hypee

[fickle star]

Souls are worthless lol

Only good to refresh towers

[warped thistle]

Idk how yall get souls ive been playing this game since you were able to manually select which character you wanted to buy like golden reptile was 200 souls to buy and I only get a lot of souls from quests

[fickle star]

Just save them

[warped thistle]

Yeah but character packs

[wraith flint]

The stat is working , snare, when subzero block breaking then nightwolf thilorw his axe 😱

[kind bridge]

@snow stone @radiant harness

[radiant harness]

That term lookin diabolical

[kind bridge]

[radiant harness]

Imagine burning vengeance on fg liu?

FEWT 200 has hurt me too many times...

[kind bridge]

F1 🥲

Yup it’s annoying

[snow stone]

Lol yeah thats some epic spam if ive ever seen it haha

[radiant harness]

Shintai of north and WW for constant freeze and shield

[kind bridge]

As I know Cos nw AI he fight for 5 sc and tag out then you know what’s going on

[radiant harness]

🥶

[kind bridge]

That’s what I called evil

Any setup with WW

[cinder lily]

which character?

Personally I would like to try kitsune + weather warfare + ice gloves

[kind bridge]

On subzero sure

[cinder lily]

there's a setup I saw from Shaolin Monk:
KL Scepter FX required
Mask or something with power gen
Weather warfare
Acid Dragon's deathly vial

[kind bridge]

Yeah I know it but am still far a way from using this kind of strategy

F6 scepter f1 WW

[snow stone]

Honestly excited for this tower to be reworked, just dont ruin ice bomb devs

[kind bridge]

I like them as they are

Rare are sucks

Kori also

[snow stone]

Blade sucks, mask sucks, orb is massively outclassed and underpowered, scepter is insane but ya know whatever

Gloves has a niche so hopefully it doesnt change much, frost axe is fine tbh, armor is dog

The uncommons are all great tbh for their uses

But they arent likely to nerf an uncommon lol

[kind bridge]

Armour is dog got me laughing

All rare are sh@@

[snow stone]

Nah gloves is fine

Its the only (I think) armor that boosts basic damage. Which isnt exciting but it has a place to exist

[kind bridge]

What’s fine about this

40% basic the only useful thing

[cinder lily]

strengthen after freezing is good

I'd change the FX effect tbh

[kind bridge]

Works only on subzero

[cinder lily]

50% chance to freeze opponents on combo ender

[kind bridge]

That would make it great

[snow stone]

I just told you

Lol

I didnt say it was good, I just dont want them to remove that niche

Not all gear needs to be strong, but all gear should have a niche

[kind bridge]

Something unique about it

[snow stone]

The uncommons do that in this tower tbh

Like nightmare having unique uncommons

[kind bridge]

When are we getting a gear that do negative resistance ?

[kind bridge]

Yup yup

[cinder lily]

tbh I think Nightmare is the one that needs a remake soon

Bi-Han's Tormentor and Killer Jacket are awful

[snow stone]

It likely will be next year

Just based on rework order, its not that unlikely

[kind bridge]

Jacket is just 🥔

[snow stone]

Sorc tower rework is in the picture too

[cinder lily]

for tormentor:
Keep the Lethal Blow
1 bar of power second ability
Noob Saibot: 10% Lethal Blow chance boost for each teammate or opponent defeated.

[snow stone]

I personally think reworks should always = overall buff unless a piece stands out dramatically

And scepter is really good but I dont think its broken alone, so its fine. It's the synergies that make it so crazy

Theres veryyy few pieces left I think are "to strong" to exist

[kind bridge]

What I would change with bi-Han tormentor is just the add team death mark on x-ray instead of one DM

[cinder lily]

Killer Jacket:
-Gain shield at the start of the match and before receiving a Lethal Blow during 3-15 secs
-10-30% chance to convert incoming special damage into healing.
FX: 50% Reduced Power generation for the opponent when Wearer's Shield is active.

[snow stone]

Isnt that the rare that does that

[kind bridge]

That looks good

[kind bridge]

Yup

I did not release that he is talking about the epic because it’s look fine to me

[snow stone]

They might remove that lethal blow requirement into something else. Its incredibly niche and only works against the player because of FoS

Id also wager itll be start of match and tag in

[cinder lily]

It counters bi-han's tormentor and asscorp

[snow stone]

"Counters" and its just shield

[cinder lily]

before the impact

[snow stone]

A counter would to just be immune to lethal damage

[cinder lily]

I buy

[snow stone]

Maybe take it a step further even

Lethal strikes miss

[kind bridge]

I remember that read somewhere something like that

[kind bridge]

Euw 🤢

30% resistance to lethal blow FW only lol

[somber hill]

I wish kitanas friendship gear would work :/

[snow stone]

Wym work

[cinder lily]

Early MK1 Mileena revision: Insane, once she gets speed she becomes extremely good

[snow stone]

I mean who isnt good with speed tho lol

[cinder lily]

I mean she's already fast enough

with good strings and enders

and her brutality epic gives her the speed

[somber hill]

Her epic giving shield doesnt work everytine as it should be

I explain : every crit of her gives a wound which explodes and gives a shield on special attack. The shields duration is based on wounds removed

I have 100% crit chance so i get 5 wounds every combo

Sometimes i get a 7 sec shield sometimes not

[devout turtle]

@snow stone what your thoughts on wailing spirit (toh accessory)? I see some potential in it (non fx ofc)

Although no huge steal but it help when i lack starup gear or when fighting empower modifier it help too well

(I think having it sub fx is better than fx it as power stolen will be less for the active char)

[fickle star]

No

Fx doesn't lower the amount for the active character

[somber hill]

Ok now it never gave me shield

Wth is wrong with her gear

I will contact the devs

Anyone have it on fx ?

[snow stone]

I mean, its definitely a solid gear for sure, its probably go on all my support characters if shintai of malice didnt exist

[signal lion]

Guys who are the best boss killers and why

[inner delta]

Ain't no way chess ain't see this

@vernal hamlet

[bleak shuttle]

as stand alone fighters: KLK, SF Johnny, MK11 Scorp, To name just 3. but the list isn't full

[fickle star]

@snow stone

[fickle star]

Mk1 scorpion, SF johnny, mk11 Liu Kang/scorpion

As solos

[vernal hamlet]

nah I saw it

[snow stone]

We past that

[signal lion]

thx mand also love your vids

[signal lion]

i think am using mk11 scorps wrong maybe gear is there something am missing and how does he combo with liu kang

[fickle star]

You mean MK1 or mk11?

Oh wait

[fickle star]

I meant they're both individually top tier boss killers

Ofc you can use both together and just tag between them because of Liu's passive

[signal lion]

Ahhh ok

Am using the hell blade on klk an he is so good

[somber hill]

The next gear that doesnt work is liu kangs brutality epic.... why does it not throw fire on Tag in ?????

[hollow obsidian]

did you use liu as your active fighter before tagging out?

[snow stone]

You have to switch between your other two characters, if liu is tagged and you tag him out it doesnt work

[somber hill]

Both

[snow stone]

I literally use nunchaku to speedrun krypt, it works just fine lol

[somber hill]

K

But i want to use liu :/

[snow stone]

Well then dont use his brut🤷‍♂️ lol

Its only good for the fireball so if your not using that...

[somber hill]

How good is hos friendship set

His

[snow stone]

Uhh, pretty good, not mind blowing but I like it. The epic is a little fusion reliant tho

[somber hill]

Is there a tag in tag out mk 11 Team?

[cinder lily]

Wdym

[snow stone]

Mk11 sindel liu kang noob

[snow stone]

5 is the max for now

[desert shuttle]

o but what does ascenions do

[snow stone]

Just small stat boosts, at ascension 5 it allows them to do brutalities too

[desert shuttle]

oh th

[gray tangle]

Can kabals tag in block break? Sometimes I very obviously block before his tag in but I still get stun/xrayed

[snow stone]

Yes

Its best to dodge it by tagging yourself

[daring mountain]

What do you say is my team good?

[somber hill]

But they have no Tag in gear

I mean like jade who gets Power on Tag in

[cinder lily]

Then explain yourself better, the way you asked for it looked like you wanted characters with tag in attacks

[vast vector]

Can anyone give me the best silver team so that ill just invest in it

[honest carbon]

Kenshi, scorpion, reptile

Reptile for dot

[snow stone]

Kenshi, scorpion, sonya

My main silver team

Scorpion and sonya both boost kenshi

[honest carbon]

Oh yeah sonya basic attacks are nice

What do u think about team cage, they support eachother Passives like crazy

[snow stone]

I dont like 'em

Rather use kenshi bc of power drain

[vast vector]

johny also power drain

[hollow obsidian]

kenshi scorpion and sub/kung jin

[pearl orbit]

for what wil u use a silver team lol

[pearl orbit]

wdym sub?

[vast vector]

does his passive stack? like if paired with 2 martial artists will it do 80 percent damage?

[pearl orbit]

nvm i forgot silver sub exists

[pearl orbit]

i think since it says martial artistS it means he will get 40% when theres 2 other ma.s

and prob if u have 1 then u dont get the passive

[vast vector]

Oh

[pearl orbit]

im not 100% sure tho

what do u need silver team for again?

[vast vector]

challenges

just want to make a loadout and not change it

[honest carbon]

Jin for damage boost nice

@vast vector

Takes less than 10 secs

[vast vector]

Bro

your fx

[honest carbon]

It took me 1 month of consistent silver pack openings to max him.

[hollow obsidian]

no

[frank yew]

What's the best for any boss team killer

[hard vine]

What's the best ways to get equipment

[frank yew]

Bro this is only for characters and teams dont question like that again here

[fickle star]

Bruh

[honest carbon]

Gotta follow the rules 💯 💀

[void pelican]

I took 20 days

I started playing for 27 days or something

[honest carbon]

Mine was pain in the ahh to max him

[void pelican]

I gót 9 of him in packs

I bought the rest in characters

[honest carbon]

Nice

[inner delta]

I still don't have kenshi maxed

🗣️

[void pelican]

He's worth maxing ngl

Even if he's a silver his passive is insane

[inner delta]

Ion use silvers tho

So no point

[hard vine]

Aight dude 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[somber hill]

no i didnt. why can people not think for themselves ?

[snow stone]

@fickle star just found the worst tierlist yet

[undone maple]

thats definitely based off favoritism, bs and bias

[cinder lily]

Common Cuday fan tier list