💬-general

[hallow grail]

Also MK11 Scorpion, bb, Buzz Saw/Kusarigama, Sash

[twin loom]

thx ubnone for providing more

[tardy geode]

Yes but giving few options to go around it won't make the problem disappear

[twin loom]

same can happen to literally any effect, buff, debuff or talent

[tardy geode]

Good luck doing basics only against mk11 jade or a xray team

[hallow grail]

For extra whale option, Sultry Gown, WW and Kuai Liang's set on SZ

[tardy geode]

No

[hot ibex]

since you can't use the character twice in the same fw season

[tardy geode]

I had a mk11 jade evade literally a whole combo in a row

[topaz wren]

we might as well give everyone FX Weather Warfare

[tardy geode]

And then brutalize me in one combo herself because of the staff

Would have a special made things easier? Yes
Would have boneshield fed me up? Yes

[hot ibex]

or kori blade, frost mask and lucky hat to make sure that the enemy won't have power for some time

[twin loom]

thats bad, u could just did to her an xray or bring kc sonya red card, was an elder run? if ur options are limited is because its meant to be hard

[vale star]

What to do when game says check data connection

My Interwebs fine

[twin loom]

try until it let u in

[topaz wren]

check wifi/data, see if it’s being bad

[hallow grail]

Jade's health can reach 0 with one SP2 of good character. So we can risk that on her and tag-in other character with Sash to waste time

[topaz wren]

You gotta make complete sure every thing is good

[twin loom]

i mean how not? we dont have debuff resistance 100% always, we dont have cripple always

[tardy geode]

There is a talent to counter cripple

[vale star]

How exactly

[twin loom]

pretty sure is not 100%

[tardy geode]

And you can just switch to a non-crippled character

[topaz wren]

Do you have access to your wifi settings?

[tardy geode]

Just use a different connection

[vale star]

Not possible, mobile data only thing I can access rn

[tardy geode]

Use it

[twin loom]

keep trying until it lets u in

[vale star]

I am lmfao

[tardy geode]

Data is better than wifi

[topaz wren]

you must be having an unbreakable will to be that sure

[vale star]

There is no wifi where I am currently

[tardy geode]

Try a vpn then

Or you're probably in a spot with low signal

So not much to do

[solid brook]

I love the break between towers

[tardy geode]

Towers make me relax

Gimme

[solid brook]

Soon

[twin loom]

i do, gives us plenty of time to stay away from the game without worrying about tower cycles

[solid brook]

I just log in to do quest and thats it

[twin loom]

i can finally see the sun again

[solid brook]

So nice

[twin loom]

ehem

[twin loom]

is not 100%

[tardy geode]

Free characters, equipments, and no talents

Couldn't ask for more

[solid brook]

[tardy geode]

Klassic team with smoke, the cripple talent and hawk stance would have 80% resistance

[twin loom]

1 option, make another one

[tardy geode]

And the only character who could realistically cripple you in survivor is klk anyway

[twin loom]

kc cassie with kc team

i did it

[tardy geode]

Anyone else would have to apply it with a special and you can't let them

Klk is easily countered by switching to another character

And you're still trying to change the topic by moving boneshield to deathmark first and cripple then

It must change, period

Leaving it as it is is not an option

Doesn't matter the things you can pull out of the hat to make it seem like it's not a problem

It is, and it has to be solved

[hot ibex]

bd tremor and some1 else with bos, snake skin and kitana's epic

[twin loom]

We are seeing how many of these effects can be countered and how many times we can do it, we took for example a bunch of teams and we focused on cripple

[tardy geode]

That won't change the fact that boneshield needs a nerf

Doesn't matter the counters

You won't always have counter available

[twin loom]

it doesnt, u can bypass it always if u know how

[tardy geode]

Do it

[eternal jetty]

👀

[twin loom]

Get an XRay, dont do specials

[tardy geode]

You say it's doable to do an elder run with no specials

Show us

[hot ibex]

i really want to see you face the double terminator team and 1 of them has bos and ffd both at fx, while trying to do only basic attacks

[tardy geode]

Especially if you're trying to use low fusion characters

[eternal jetty]

Kc Cassie face is so weird💀

[solid brook]

Yes

[twin loom]

Welp, im not the only one who said is not possible to counter it

[eternal jetty]

why they made her like that-

[tardy geode]

You said doing elder with no specials is a viable option

[solid brook]

Huh?

[tardy geode]

Show us the way master

[tardy geode]

Mk11 cassie

[solid brook]

I can’t that’s for sure

[eternal jetty]

What

[tardy geode]

Kc cassie uses mk11 cassie's model

[eternal jetty]

oh

[twin loom]

i dont have the elements yet to do so, but i heard other players assured is possible, great players

[tardy geode]

None of the veterans and whales we have here i have seen doing a survivor run with no specials

A elder run with no talents or equipments? Done with a sf team

No specials? Not an option

[twin loom]

Then why they give options to do so, why hope if there is none?

[tardy geode]

Who gave you this false hope

Nobody did but yourself

[twin loom]

reverting to this

[tardy geode]

It is an option on paper but not a realistic one

[hot ibex]

try it yourself

[twin loom]

i trust him

[tardy geode]

He never did it either

It's an option

[twin loom]

then why he lied

[tardy geode]

But not a good one

He didn't lie

He just gave an option

[hot ibex]

tbh with basic equipments it might be a bit harder

[tardy geode]

Didn't say he did it

[twin loom]

Should i trust anyone here?

[hot ibex]

with tower gear on the other hand

[tardy geode]

You said it was an option first

[twin loom]

Welp, since there is no proof

im down to agree with u

and say that others lie

[tardy geode]

Basics only you're dead at the first mk11 jade you face

[loud plaza]

[twin loom]

anyways, nerf it, nerf it all, i dont care anymore, false heroes

[topaz wren]

mk11 jade evading cloudburst is criminal

and takeda counter but who cares about that

[hot ibex]

what now?

[tardy geode]

She wasn't able to before the last update

[topaz wren]

Yeah you saw that right

[hot ibex]

nope

[tardy geode]

It's classed as basic attack now

[hot ibex]

didn't know that, thanks

[twin loom]

i wont trust anyone here if there is no gameplay to proof it, thats all i have left to say to close the problem

[hallow grail]

All these for requesting an equipment to counter only BS

yeah

It won't happen anyway

[topaz wren]

Is there gear that specifically counters a single threat

[hallow grail]

No

[twin loom]

a problem that broughted anyone attetion here

[pulsar ravine]

Yo!
Don't buy him!
You"ll never actually play seriously with an F0 char.....c'mon!

[twin loom]

not a single threat, but much more

[hot ibex]

no, since debuff resistance is a thing

[topaz wren]

so then why would they add something like that now

[twin loom]

hm... i think i saw fire resistance equipment and cheat death gears

and gameplay to follow that truth

[hallow grail]

Resistance to a specific debuff exists, but not for tt effect

[twin loom]

whats tt

[topaz wren]

talent tree

[twin loom]

abbreviatures, u do understand them or die doing so

[topaz wren]

lot of things are unexplained in the game, or take up a lot of words

[twin loom]

Deathmark can be cheated with some gear

[hallow grail]

Not made only for Rev, so yeah

DM is for countering resurrection, not only revenant

[hot ibex]

just debuff resistance in general, it doesn't have a specific equipment as a counter

[hallow grail]

damn fat fingers

[topaz wren]

deathmark can also be dispelled

[twin loom]

its not made for rev, is to avoid deathmark killing u

brutalities can still apply

[twin loom]

the question was if there is a gear that can counter a talent tree effect

[tame yacht]

Can someone look at #❓-ask-for-help

[hot ibex]

let's say unique effects from tt can't be countered

since dm is no longer tt exclusive

[twin loom]

Deathmark not allowing u to revive, can be countered with cheating death gears, letting u tag out and live

[topaz wren]

Ok well guess what

[hot ibex]

again, death mark is no longer tt exclusive

[topaz wren]

not everyone has cheat death gears

[tardy geode]

Only 2 gears let you go around deathmark, because they make you tag out

[twin loom]

Not everyone is a good player

[hallow grail]

There are no other effect that is like BS too

[tardy geode]

Also they have to be fx, and they're tower epics

[hot ibex]

and do not count as resurections

[topaz wren]

Literally what are you saying

[tardy geode]

Sad for them

[twin loom]

Basically all evasion gears can mimic bone shield in a way

[hallow grail]

No

[topaz wren]

except they’re different?

you tag out upon fatal damage and gain recovery

[twin loom]

Is not that

[tardy geode]

Couldn't care less if someone doesn't know how to play a game played with 2 fingers, punishing players for playing well isn't balance

[twin loom]

im talking about, varan jacket, dark mantle and i believe there is more

[hallow grail]

Nothing like BS

[tardy geode]

They evade but they don't get invulnerability from it

[twin loom]

irrc, there is a gear that provides invulnerability

[hot ibex]

evading special is one thing, becoming immune after a special is something else

[twin loom]

on specials or dying

[hallow grail]

Just a waste of power, which can be done by knocking back and block in place for some chars

Nothing works like BS

[hot ibex]

under the effect last of shot you can stagger the character who is immune

[twin loom]

the only difference is that, yea

OH

[tardy geode]

They can't tag out while invulnerable with last shot

[twin loom]

CoS Jax has the chance to become invulnerable after specials

[tardy geode]

With revenant or boneshield they can

[twin loom]

how dumb can i be

[tardy geode]

For 4s

[hot ibex]

and fx effects of tower epic is supposed to be better than tt, not worse

[hot ibex]

you can stagger him

[twin loom]

1 word, dagger

[hallow grail]

Oblivion

[hot ibex]

which one?

[tardy geode]

Dagger fx is good

[twin loom]

is just like, A little bone shield with less time

[hot ibex]

dagger of spirits or saphire dagger?

[hallow grail]

Invulnerability can be staggered

[tardy geode]

No since you can still beat him through it

[hallow grail]

BS, no

[twin loom]

saphire dagger is not an epic

[twin loom]

the only difference being that and the time, both can activate at specials, both let u inmune

[hot ibex]

and where is getting hit with a lv1 special with no effect mentioned in the tt?

[twin loom]

where is that?

[vale star]

Welp cleared data and cache still no dice

[twin loom]

Oblivion is not TT

[vale star]

Switched to brothers hotspot

[hot ibex]

you tell me, since you said this

[hallow grail]

Exactly

[vale star]

The game itself doesn't want me to play the game anymore

Poetic

[twin loom]

dagger is not better than a talent tree

[hallow grail]

Try to use VPN, if can't, just wait

[hot ibex]

yes

since it's guaranteed vs a chance

[twin loom]

is not better than death mark, not better than revenant or bone shield

not better than brutal ending

[tame yacht]

#❓-ask-for-help

[hot ibex]

but it's better than the % to negate your enemy from using specials and xray

[twin loom]

U can still dot them, dots doesnt get nerfed by that

Only bosses are hard with that

[hallow grail]

It removes any effect of SP

[hot ibex]

fx kobra belt and fx curtain

[hallow grail]

Just a baby damage

[twin loom]

u have basics that can dot, gears might as well

[hallow grail]

That has nothing to do with dagger

[hot ibex]

those are not from specials, which the dagger counters

[twin loom]

how

[hot ibex]

......

[hallow grail]

Another completely unrelated thing with other purpose

[twin loom]

dagger counters effects of specials, not basics

[hot ibex]

YES

why did you include the dot from basic and items into the mix it's beyond me

[twin loom]

is becausa dagger doesnt do anything great that a talent tree

u can even dispel with talent tree or cripple

there u go, no sp damage since u cant do them

[hot ibex]

yes, better than lightning blow

[hallow grail]

Well, mig is an expert of using only basic attacks

[hot ibex]

true that, i forgor

[hallow grail]

Oblivion is not a problem for them

[twin loom]

i often power drain them or cripple

not a problem

[hot ibex]

kc cassie with fx deathly vial laughs at that

[twin loom]

i beated fatal EWT

[hallow grail]

It's not gonna end

[twin loom]

which means i didnt even trigger the oblivion debuff not once

[hallow grail]

[solar vine]

guys what is the best tower to grind on battle mode?

[twin loom]

i even asked what is that after i beated the tower lmao

[hallow grail]

Pretty much the last tower

Very high xp

[solar vine]

i cant , im not at the final tower

[hallow grail]

Then reach

[solar vine]

bruh?

[twin loom]

beat the towers till u reach last

[solar vine]

i cant , my character are not strong enough

[twin loom]

u gain XP doing so

[hot ibex]

then try fw quick balltes

[tame yacht]

Where is "WB ID"

[twin loom]

On the banner at the top

[tame yacht]

Thank you

[twin loom]

So..... dagger is bad? imo yes

Worse than talent tree? absolutely

[solar vine]

i mean grind = level up characters

[twin loom]

u might wanna read this

before asking again xd

[tame yacht]

and is it in the same place on the phone?

[twin loom]

Yes is there, on phone or emulators of phones

[tame yacht]

On mobile phone

[twin loom]

all kinds of phones

[solar vine]

bruh hahaha mobile phone

[limber mantle]

lol

[tame yacht]

Bij wdym

[limber mantle]

just mobile or phone

[solar vine]

dude
mobile = phone = smartphone

[tame yacht]

...

[solar vine]

exactly

[tame yacht]

Gosh this game is getting on my nerves

[solar vine]

why

[hollow dragon]

why

[tame yacht]

I can't play since yesterday

[hollow dragon]

connection problem?

[tame yacht]

every time I want to start a fight I get a mistake

error *

[limber mantle]

maybe redownload?

[solar vine]

yea

[tame yacht]

It says "online save failed"

[limber mantle]

yeah re-download the game

[tame yacht]

I tried redownload didnt worked

[limber mantle]

it works for me lol

[tame yacht]

I Will try again

Brb

[limber mantle]

is ur internet that fast lol

[vale star]

Here I am with the good ole "check your network" Drama

My data is working perfectly fine game just lemme in

[hot ibex]

That's not a valid reason to say that an item is bad just because you didn't get affected by it

[twin loom]

u can mimic the effects with talent tree

Cripple removes sps, so no sps damage

[hot ibex]

A % at no sp isn't better than guaranteed baby dmg

[twin loom]

What baby damage if they cant do a special lol

its zero and for good

cripple > oblivion

[hot ibex]

Lightning blow isn't better than oblivion

Since it's chance based vs 100%

[tame yacht]

Redownload didnt worked

[twin loom]

What is free is always better than what u have to gain

[hot ibex]

And if it doesn't trigger you are screwed

[tame yacht]

do you think that installing Mk on a computer will help?

[hot ibex]

No ideea

[vale star]

Server side issue perhaps, been trying for an hour now and it doesn't work

[solar vine]

what is that new packs bruh

which one is the current best?

skarlet?

@twin loom

[twin loom]

always has been 🔫

[tame yacht]

I tried since sunday

[solar vine]

damn it

[twin loom]

no gifs pls, no links pls

[solar vine]

ok so i will open it

im with 343 souls right now

[twin loom]

lulz, outworld pack, skipppp

[twin loom]

yes do, the elite one sux

[feral lintel]

ads arent working for me i can only watch like 2 before they open and close right away and just infinetly load

[twin loom]

Also

[solar vine]

the elite one looks really bad

[twin loom]

Erron brutality pack

[solar vine]

what

[twin loom]

money pack

And kw sub zero pack, money aswell

[solar vine]

could you speak the freakin english?

imagine that your explaining that to a 5 years old kid

[twin loom]

5 years old kids doesnt need to understand what money is

but who am i to dictate what should parents do

[solar vine]

DUDE JUST MAKE IT SIMPLE TO ME UNDERSTAND

[topaz wren]

have you tried speaking the freakin english

[twin loom]

xd

how that message pass the capitalize bot

[solar vine]

im trying my man , im from brazil

[solar vine]

idk

[twin loom]

it truly amazes me

[topaz wren]

Anyways, open MK11 Skarlet packs if you don’t want anything specific

[twin loom]

to make u talk good again, yea, elite outworld pack is bad

[solar vine]

oh great , now i understand , thanks

[solar vine]

great

[hallow grail]

Epic is giving another free nitro

for first time users

[red fable]

For 3 months too?

[hallow grail]

1 month

[twin loom]

do i need credit card?

[hallow grail]

For discord, yes

[twin loom]

sad

i have only debit card

[hallow grail]

Both can be used

[tardy geode]

Works anyway

Any payment method

[twin loom]

i mean, my debit is not visa, only credit is

and im pretty sure discord wont recognize my local bank

[red fable]

Tbh i would not pay for getting nitro, but is it's free could it be... I don't find a good purpose but that's okay for some ppl

Oh probably it won't recognize local banks

But just try it, who knows

[tardy geode]

Just need to add a payment method, it's actually free

Then just cancel it before it starts again

[twin loom]

how much does it cost to fully boost a server..? 🤔

[vale star]

Guys

Do I wash my souls down the spec ops character pack

[twin loom]

no

never

[hallow grail]

1 nitro costs 9.99$ and you have 2 boosts

[vale star]

Why not

Seems like a good way to farm koins while I'm at it too

[twin loom]

basic golds for 200 souls

[vale star]

Ah

What are the best packs then, just so I don't give into the impulse

[twin loom]

fully is, 14 boost to reach level 3 🤔

[twin loom]

basic gold pack or skarlet pack or elite netherrealm elder god pack or netherrealm pack or discounted packs

There u go, all u need is there to build a great deck of cards

[vale star]

Aite noted, gonna only focus on those now

What kinda packs usually go on discount btw

Like the staples or the rotations

[hollow dragon]

im wondering, why this server didn't have any boost, back then i remember there's some boost

[topaz wren]

where is regret

[twin loom]

Any team pack, like day of the dead packs, kold war packs, assasins pack, terminator dark fate and terminator guardian pack, circle of shadows packs, klassic packs, shaolin heroes packs, renegade pack, strike force packs, female ninja pack, klassic ninja pack and make it rain

@cursive sleet is this nsfw? @tardy geode ?

[vale star]

Try levelling 10 characters from 0-40, you'll find regret immediately

[twin loom]

toasty is occupied..

[vale star]

All of em are soul based packs right

Or do I gotta shill real buckeroos for those as well

[loud plaza]

[twin loom]

yes, and only happens at very specific date events

[tardy geode]

It was not

[twin loom]

damn, i need to clean my eyes with some chlorine

[vale star]

It was just a monke riding a monke

[twin loom]

pretty thin line with little images

[twin loom]

add on top, nightmare packs, jason pack, freddy pack and leatherface pack

[tender sorrel]

Keep revenant and Bone Shield the way they are rn

Not needed any changes

[twin loom]

lulz

[tender sorrel]

(To not discuss in the other thread)

[vale star]

So essentially special kards in special days

To make good deck

[twin loom]

yes thats it

[vale star]

Sounds...... Not as stessful as I'd feared

[twin loom]

except when skarlet pack happens

[hot ibex]

Then i demand outworld scourge and edenia champion to be on separate tiers as well as death mark and brutal ending

[vale star]

What's w skarlet pack

[twin loom]

has best card ingame, mk11 scorpion

[tender sorrel]

Skarlet MK11 Diamond Pack - 400 souls

[tender sorrel]

What they do

[vale star]

Yeh I opened one

Got ninjutsu scorpo

[hot ibex]

Free sp1 and free sp2

[tender sorrel]

Mmm no, Skarlet pack doesn't drop basic golds

[vale star]

Should I open more of em, or focus on stuff that gives me 50k

[twin loom]

im with u, spam sp2 is not the best thing either, only if u manage to get mk11 raiden or something

All the way to sp1 spam 💪

[vale star]

What, I got ninjustu peter dinklet when I opened it first

Or lemme go check again

[tender sorrel]

Prob you opened Kabal/Jade/Raiden pack

[vale star]

Either elder god kenshi or ninjustu

[hot ibex]

I never used the free sp1 talent since i tend to use characters that rely on sp2

[vale star]

Nope

Washed 400 souls down the drain

[twin loom]

oh boy, u are missing fun with kombat cup johnny and elder god kenshi

also mk11 scorpion

[hot ibex]

Golds lmao

[twin loom]

read again

[hot ibex]

He's used only in the dot team

[twin loom]

u should use him more

[hot ibex]

Nah

[twin loom]

as staller he is god on earth

[tender sorrel]

Not even there, there are many characters and items that can counter him

[hot ibex]

I don't have to

[twin loom]

i basically slapped fujin in fatal 200 using him with kl ermac, no tag outs, no snares

[hot ibex]

Let me rephrase it: i use him 90% of the time in the dot team during towers

[tender sorrel]

Aaah

[hot ibex]

The other 10% is during ma/netherrealm season

[twin loom]

mk11 scorpion is the only GOD among mk11s and mk11s are gods on their own

[fleet osprey]

next tower is coming right?

[twin loom]

i love him so much

[tender sorrel]

Back to the topic, In case you want a nerf for bone shield: Bone shield can't be activated if the special kills the target

[twin loom]

may i marry mk11 scorpion please ? 🙏

[tender sorrel]

You don't need more than just that

[hot ibex]

That and also if the special misses

[twin loom]

varan jacket moment

[hot ibex]

Varan jacket, dark mantle, ace, forgetting that some sp don't have more than punch distance

[twin loom]

@strange vortex here bro, free battle against the nerf bone shield team

💪

[tender sorrel]

@strange vortex but Brutal Ending doesn't kill your enemy being a talent too?

[twin loom]

xd

[hot ibex]

Mk11 raiden counters it

[twin loom]

not directly

[hot ibex]

Directly by disabling combo enders

[twin loom]

Guess what, dont do specials, also works on bone shield

xd

[hot ibex]

I'm starting to know why tiasma leaves mid conversation sometimes

[strange vortex]

Alright I'm here 😂

[twin loom]

u want discussions or want to put ur suggestions xD?

its pretty easy

[strange vortex]

Maybe we should talk about brutal ending another time since this talent is pretty useless without brutalities, which are pretty hard to get

[twin loom]

fite me, bone shield good

[hot ibex]

Again, tell me a REAL counter to bone shield and i'll leave it as it's working right now

[tender sorrel]

I think the only need Bone Shield could get is to not activate when the special //can// kill the character

[twin loom]

the word is cant

[tender sorrel]

Grapples, stun and freeze

[tender sorrel]

No

[twin loom]

grapples may trigger bone shield again

[strange vortex]

Bone shield and revenant can easily be solved if

1. they're put at the same tier
2. doesn't make you ignore attacks
3. are limited to a few triggers only

This will solve many things. It's really becoming increasingly frustrating in fw. Even levelling up characters is becoming annoying now

[tender sorrel]

If you have 5% and want to do a special, then the specials should kill and not let bone shield to be activated

[hot ibex]

Not time skips, since i can still die during the bone shield

[tender sorrel]

Then play bone shield vs bone shield lol

[hot ibex]

And don't say xray because sometimes when revenant triggers, it also triggers bone shield

[tender sorrel]

Or just block

[tender sorrel]

This is the best and I love it

[strange vortex]

Nick, this is mortal kombat, not mortal defense 😂

[hot ibex]

And once again, no real counter

[twin loom]

i want d-fence so i can brutalize without being killed asap, thank u

[strange vortex]

We can block yes, but opponents have block breaker and can easily kill us with 1 strike. Bone shield means I have to rely more on defending myself, which deletes the meaning of "best defense is a good offense"

[hot ibex]

I am fine with 1 and 2

[strange vortex]

Same. Yeah, maybe not 3, but both 1 and 2 are fair

[hot ibex]

I wouldn't even mind bone shield triggering on top of another bone shield if i can stagger the enemy

[twin loom]

delete revenant and buff boneshield sounds fun

[tender sorrel]

The fact you want to change a level of the talent because you can't sweep in 1 minute so fw matches xd

[strange vortex]

Exactly

The main issue is that you can't defend yourself

[twin loom]

u could tho

[strange vortex]

Most people's style of defending is actually attacking

[twin loom]

if only, ppl dont do specials

🙏

[hot ibex]

Bone shield is better than invulnerability and it's frustating

[strange vortex]

So we shouldn't enjoy 1 of the most fun features of the game because of a skill?

Talent* no way that's a skill. Skill my behind

[twin loom]

Is not like cripple exist btw

[hot ibex]

Kripple can be resisted

[twin loom]

if u want it

same as not doing specials

[strange vortex]

Hey, how about that? Bone shield inflicts cripple for a few seconds instead of protecting a character

[tender sorrel]

Assassin Jade : 👀
CoS Quan Chi: 👀
Any character that's blocking and have an equipment that reverse the damage: 👀

[twin loom]

u forgor, mk11 jade

[hot ibex]

Cos quan chi lasts for 3 sp only

Assassins have bd kabal as a hard counter

[twin loom]

and nightmare jason

[twin loom]

tell me a REAL counter for nightmare jason

xd

[hot ibex]

Bd kabal too

Bd Kabal counters every dodge in the game besides mk11 jade's

At some time in the past slow immunity worked against her

[twin loom]

Counters for mk11 jade with varan jacket 👉 👈

[strange vortex]

Assassin jade is 1 character. Quan chi is 1 character. Any character that's.ocling and have an equipment that reverse the damage are a few characters. Revenant and bone shield is applied to ALL characters. We can avoid specials and combo enders on specific characters (it's a strategy) because we know it's the best way to fight them. However, with revenant and bone shield, we have to perform combo enders until death mark is applied and only use 1 sp atk when the opponent is dying to ENSURE no bone shield ks triggered

[strange vortex]

Dots, combo enders, stun oh and... Tremor

[hot ibex]

Right now aftershock tremor with a lot of power gen/sp1 reduced cost

[twin loom]

he is a bug so doesnt count

[strange vortex]

Tremor was born to gash out nightmare Jason's jugular 💃

[hot ibex]

Then anyone with stun on tag in

[twin loom]

same as assasin jade

[twin loom]

is the same problem lul

[hot ibex]

Since she can't evade if she's stunned

[strange vortex]

Guys. Characters passives and talents are literally 2 different things

Passives are unique, limited to a few characters. Talents apply to EVERYONE

[hot ibex]

Exactly, it's not like in towers where we can equip the same equipment to all 3 of our characters at the same time (i'm looking at you srt)

[strange vortex]

Bone shield is kind of an even worse version of assassin jade. She hits and cripple you. A character under bone shield has 5 seconds to do whatever they want, which includes taking you down completely. I'm fine with assassin jade dodging sp attacks, but not EVERYONE dodging sp atks

Why is it so quiet? 👀

[hot ibex]

Idk

[strange vortex]

....did we win?

Nick? Mig? 👀

[hot ibex]

I want too see if they'll feel the same about bone shield if bosses had it too

[strange vortex]

LOL

[hot ibex]

Since they already have brutal ending (and even better than ours)

[strange vortex]

Brutal ending without brutality sets 💃

[hot ibex]

I remember the 1st time a boss did that to me without having his/her set: wait that's illegal

[twin loom]

cuz i was eating lunch, lets fite

[strange vortex]

Come at me bro 😂

[twin loom]

Bone shield good

[strange vortex]

@tender sorrel round two is starting

[hot ibex]

Ok, rock paper scissors go

[strange vortex]

Paper

What did you choose?

[twin loom]

Sicsors

i win

[strange vortex]

Pics or didn't happen

[twin loom]

same to u

[strange vortex]

I was the first to announce. It can't be a lie 💃

[twin loom]

i was late so i picked sicssors

🤌

[vale star]

Do you guys think there will be discount pack on memorial day cuz the current packs lasts 7 days

[hot ibex]

Just write your answers and i'll do a countdown

[twin loom]

hm

[tender sorrel]

Bone Shield is okay the way it is

[twin loom]

here we go again

[tender sorrel]

If I'm spending my talent points in a talent that has a chance to keep me alive, why it should be nerfed?

[twin loom]

Add a talent that counter a talent: problem solved

[tender sorrel]

Then what's the point of having talent tree

[twin loom]

get boosts and counter boosts

thats why everyone main hawk stance but uses weak point attacks

🤣 .

[tardy geode]

The packs last 7 days because they switch every week and they just switched few hours ago

[twin loom]

and lightning blow too

[tardy geode]

Lightning blow is the only way to disable xrays

[twin loom]

very op no one sad

[tardy geode]

But it's still only 15% on sp1

[twin loom]

hm, and this counters good players

[tardy geode]

And if you're playing as you should in survivor you're not gonna let opponents use specials

[hot ibex]

I'd still pick oblivion over lightning blow given how low is the chance for it

[tardy geode]

Sadly playing as you should includes using specials and killing opponents quickly

Which both revenant and boneshield prevent

[twin loom]

good luck maxing the dagger to get oblivion, id stay with the free and easy solution

[wispy sand]

More specials also means more bone

[tardy geode]

So you lose a run because you were playing well only because of a roulette

[twin loom]

RNG is all over the game lol

[wispy sand]

Funnily enough this talent screws new players the most

[twin loom]

even we got mad at packs

[tardy geode]

Rng isn't the problem

[tender sorrel]

You can also lose a run because lightning blow didn't work

[tardy geode]

Getting punished for being good is

[wispy sand]

Rather than help them

[tardy geode]

No

[tender sorrel]

If you are so good then you should know how to deal against it

[tardy geode]

Never happened to lose because of lightning blow

[twin loom]

u good, 100k souls, open a pack, no diamonds, the game punished u for being good xd

[tender sorrel]

Block or grapples, or even stun

[hot ibex]

The immunity to stagger is the real problem of bone shield (for me at least)

[tardy geode]

As I always run cripple and powerdrain anyway

[wispy sand]

Immunity to stagger is the only thing Id change

Other than erasing it

[tardy geode]

Don't play the dumb card, they're totally different things and you know it

[twin loom]

approve

[tender sorrel]

What's the reason then to have bone shield if you can keep being attacked or chained?

[tardy geode]

One is direct gameplay the other is just opening packs

[tardy geode]

No damage

[hot ibex]

For a moment i thought you had a change of heart for the talent, glad i was wrong

[wispy sand]

Never

[tender sorrel]

Still, you spend talent points to survive, you could survive but keep getting attacked

[tardy geode]

Or just play properly so that you don't have to rely on it to save your ass

[wispy sand]

Ive hated it since release

[strange vortex]

Because your probability to survive is much higher if you go totally on offense and destroy your opponent. That's how fighting works. Not by endlessly resurrecting and wearing magic shields

[wispy sand]

My point still stands

[twin loom]

U are the guy that will ask to nerf klassic ermac again.... sad

[tardy geode]

Towers are the hardest thing in the game and we all veterans complete them easily even with no equipments

[wispy sand]

Bone shield affects new players the most in a negative way on FW

[tender sorrel]

You said it, veterans with brutality equipment and diamonds FX

[strange vortex]

The whole of defense tree is totally unreliable anyways. You can still use them. My issue is, these defense talents have a chance to ruin our survival runs

[tardy geode]

Then you go in fw and a little boneshield ruins everything

[hot ibex]

Also the worse this talent was prior to 2.0 when the immortal cheaters were present in 90% of the fights: bone shield after every single sp used

[tardy geode]

I was completing towers with a f1 team, try again you could get luckier

[tender sorrel]

Survivor is not made to be easy

[wispy sand]

The lower your damage, you give it a chance to trigger

[strange vortex]

That's not the point

[queen jungle]

Can they stop putting Hellspawn Scorpion in Netherrealm Character only tower omg

[twin loom]

defense talent tree is useless, the only thing usable or ppl use more is hawk stance,revenant and bone shield, then we are fine with no more lmao

all the other defense talents are useless

[wispy sand]

I like red dragon and some other stuff but, talent points shortage

[strange vortex]

It can get as hard as it wants with characters and equipment. No need to make it hard when the fight is easily finished because of a talent that stops characters from dying and protects them from attacks, enough for them to buy time to kill you

[wispy sand]

I cant play without wpa generally

[strange vortex]

Some talents are also annoying. Reflect damage and all, totally unnecessary and ruins the fun

[tardy geode]

You also see opponents with maxed tower gears and revenant + boneshield

[twin loom]

so if u nerf bone shield or revenant u basically delete defense talent except tier 1 xd

[tender sorrel]

If the fight can be easily finished, then I assume they are characters that can't kill you in less than 10 seconds

[hot ibex]

What's next? Bone shield on bosses?

[strange vortex]

Like I said, we have passives and equipment to deal with. We see them coming, we know how to strategize to counter and beat them. Revenant and bone shield just cause endless issues

[tender sorrel]

If the talent is there to use, why not?

[wispy sand]

Revenant and bone shield make this game an rng slugfest potentially

[strange vortex]

Correct. They can't. They can, however, inflict damage to you, which will carry on the next battle that probably has revenant and bone shield protecting them

[tender sorrel]

You can block or tag out to recover

Again, 10 seconds

[wispy sand]

The amount of moves that are unsafe after literally killing the enemy is ridiculous

[twin loom]

and then my most fav card joins in and beat bosses in 11 attempts, they call it, the klassic ermac...

[strange vortex]

The fight can be easily finished off even against incredibly op characters. If you constantly beat and trap them, then there's no need for resurrection and bone shield

[tardy geode]

= if you have a chance to be the most toxic opponent anyone could face, why not?

[wispy sand]

And you saying that assures me that you dont pay attention to different recoveries between characters

[twin loom]

Well, we can and we do XD

[tender sorrel]

... we don't set the characters we want to show in fw

[tardy geode]

Just proving that money can't buy skill if you still need a roulette to save your ass with maxed tower epics

[tender sorrel]

The game just take it randomly

[tardy geode]

We do

The game uses the last team we used in fw

[twin loom]

prove u wrong, there are great epics from towers that helps a lot

[wispy sand]

There arent that many moves that are safe after bone rev activate

[strange vortex]

Again, this is a passive. I personally never had issues with ermac. The damage he inflicts is too low, and his second passive can easily be countered by leaving him for last

[tardy geode]

That's why you always face so many tower equipments during towers

[tender sorrel]

Then if you don't want to face bone shield and revenant you need to ban the use of it 🤷‍♂️

[tardy geode]

??

[hot ibex]

Tbh, i would only use bone shield and revenant if i have all the equipments and both terminators maxed to put them alongside spec ops and do an elder on auto battle

[tardy geode]

That's exactly what we are discussing

[twin loom]

shame

[wispy sand]

And the ones that are may not even kill

[twin loom]

and u call it bad to face in FW

[tender sorrel]

You said people that play with max equipment and revenant/bone shield are toxic

[twin loom]

u should suffer the hell of gettin every fight a bone shield

as all of us we do xd

[strange vortex]

If this happens, fw will run nice and smooth. Nobody can complain if they got killed

[hot ibex]

Try to defeat a fully maxed out sf team with tower gears without loosing your sanity + rev and bs

[wispy sand]

Using burning vengeance when its bugged its what I would flag as toxic

[twin loom]

damn

[tardy geode]

If you still use tower equipments and rev+ bs after the tower is over, you know what you're up to

[strange vortex]

They are. My last elder challenge had mk11 team with jade. I almost finished all 3 of them off with my mk11 scorp (who was constantly healing them) but thanks to their endless bone shield AND revenant, I lost. Tell me how this is fair?

[tender sorrel]

So everyone should automatically change their team because the tower ended

[twin loom]

red card johnny, kill sf scorpion and deal with cassie and then get xray on johnny, problem solved

[hot ibex]

You can't use sonya in elder

[twin loom]

u didnt say elder

[wispy sand]

tell me you never done an elder run without telling me you never done an elder run

[tender sorrel]

You expect to clear elder in 2 minutes but you can't accept you will face some revenant or Bone shield

[hot ibex]

I've never facex maxed out tower gear in fatal

[tardy geode]

They're all in elder

Alongside maxed mk11 teams

[twin loom]

i do most of the time.... AT FATAL survival xd

[strange vortex]

I don't expect that. My diamonds are too low and I'm more reliant on strategies that are easily ruined by these 2 talents

[twin loom]

if i see a mk11 my team is over lmao

[tardy geode]

Tell me you're trying to convince people with more experience that a problem doesn't exist without telling me:

[twin loom]

what

[tender sorrel]

They are saying they have more experience than you so that's why we should consider their thoughts on revenant bone shield

[tardy geode]

If we face the strongest opponents, and say there is a problem with the game, then there is a problem
If you've never had to deal with something at that level, how can you try to convince us rev and bs aren't a problem

[hot ibex]

Not to mention also specter's bugged vengeance on top of bone shield/revenant

[feral lintel]

shields are so dumb

[twin loom]

rev and bs happens to everyone

[tardy geode]

Yes but not everyone has to face them alongside a maxed team with fx epics

[tender sorrel]

Interesting how the "low level" players wants to keep bs and revenant but the elder ones not

[tardy geode]

Which are already hard enough without russian roulette added to the mix

[twin loom]

again, matchmaking do be a little quirky with that in fatal xd

[strange vortex]

This is also something I mentioned. Players with fx diamonds and tower equipment using revenant and BS -_-

[wispy sand]

Its interesting how you dont realize bs hurts new players the most

[tender sorrel]

Again, why not? Why would you be angry with the ways other people wants to play?

[strange vortex]

Bro, I'm low level. You even got more powerful kards than I do 😂

[hot ibex]

Not just any fx tower gear - frost orb, ace, jinsei hat and jade's bracelets, living dead

[tardy geode]

I can complete fatal with basic golds
Fx diamonds can be killed in one combo or special in elder, any error means you're dead

[twin loom]

it makes us babies, i know, but idc it helps me out more than anything

[tender sorrel]

I don't see new players complaining about bone shield

[wispy sand]

It hurts to face it

Cause you need more specials per kill

[feral lintel]

what basic golds are you using to be able to complete fatal with

i dont think fatal even allows basic gold cards

[twin loom]

covert ops cassie, another spec ops, another spec ops

[tardy geode]

Any gold is fine in fatal

[wispy sand]

The restriction is for fusions, not rarity

[strange vortex]

New players will easily resort to all the protection they could use. Unfortunately, those players won't learn how to fight properly if they rely on talents that require dying

[tardy geode]

Co cassie, high tech jacqui and a list johnny

[wispy sand]

By instance

[tardy geode]

I know jacqui is not a basic but still..

[hot ibex]

Ht is challenge

[feral lintel]

why a list and not stunt double?

[twin loom]

proves u wrong, right

[tardy geode]

Health to the team >> stun on tag in

[wispy sand]

Double Johnny is screwed by design if bone shield is on the enemy

[tardy geode]

Also better stats

[feral lintel]

a list doesnt stun on tag in tho?

[twin loom]

he has the possible counter to it, tag in stun lmao

[tardy geode]

He doesn't

And he doesn't need it

[wispy sand]

You are missing the point entirely

And stun lasts much shorter than revenant

Without counting it can be resisted

[tardy geode]

Also mk11 kabal exists

[wispy sand]

Bone shield even

[twin loom]

since the bug i saw no one used him xd

[tardy geode]

And stunt double gives nothing to other spec ops

[wispy sand]

Double Johnny is a terrible damage dealer cause bone shield exists

[tardy geode]

Because you don't play elder ;)

[wispy sand]

His damage per special is garbage

[hot ibex]

Right now there are 2 (maybe more idrc to find othets) characters that have long specials to outlast bone shield: kl raiden's and hss's sp2

[tardy geode]

Mk11 kabal literally the most common opponent in elder alongside jade

[twin loom]

what about kl goro sp1

[hot ibex]

It's not 5 seconds

[tardy geode]

Characters can only be used once in survivor

Can't rely on goro for every single run

[twin loom]

injustice raiden?

[wispy sand]

Any character that needs to do many sps to kill is more prone to activate bone shield

Another one of the main reasons low damage kards are worse for FW

[hot ibex]

Short in comparison to kl raiden

[twin loom]

welp, since it can be triggered while the first bone shield is up, its pretty hard imo

[tardy geode]

And trying to use low diamonds in elder is a pain

[proven hawk]

Hi

[tardy geode]

My entire team got murked by mk11 jade earlier

[twin loom]

what bone shield and revenant lets us do

[tardy geode]

One combo each

[wispy sand]

Bone shield doesnt have an activation restriction

[tardy geode]

I do it without them

[wispy sand]

It can very well activate in a row

[twin loom]

u losing time and cards

[hot ibex]

With those 2 you can start sp2 after the bone shield and/or revenant triggers and it will still deal damage

[twin loom]

if a weak team u have, revenant and bone shield is a MUST

[hot ibex]

Not really

[wispy sand]

You could also play this like an actual strategy game

[tranquil basin]

should I lvl up my klassic raiden it’s lvl 39 right now?!

[tardy geode]

Yes

[twin loom]

the actual game, has that actual talent

[tardy geode]

Not at all

I completed many elders with low fusion teams

Never used revenant or bs in 2 years

[twin loom]

call me dumb and all NRS devs who bringed bone shield and revenant then

[wispy sand]

Relying on chances is not really strategic at all, or rather not as effective as you could be

[twin loom]

i have no problem

[hot ibex]

Never used them since tt was introduced

[twin loom]

cuz u are protesting against it

[tardy geode]

We are not calling them dumb but we have been saying they were bad talents since when they were added

[tender sorrel]

Don't you rely on chances when you play with Block Breaker?

[wispy sand]

Depends

[tardy geode]

Because even after I had just started i was still better than certain youtubers using them and losing with fx diamonds against bronzes

[wispy sand]

You can time attacks to not be block punished

[tardy geode]

If you rely on a dice roll to save your ass you'll never get good

[wispy sand]

And even then your argument dies

[twin loom]

its a normal strategy to dont use a lot of block breakers, so we are guided to just use one

[feral lintel]

does silver cassies passive only apply to herself?

[tardy geode]

Yeah

[tender sorrel]

Block breaker equipments

[tardy geode]

You can play without

[wispy sand]

You are comparing 45% on 4-5 hits to 20%-30% once

[hot ibex]

You can rely on intercept with specials and bb won't be a problem

[wispy sand]

So your argument is making bone and rev look even crappier

[tender sorrel]

Well you can prevent bs trigger if you don't use specials

And we already talked about it

[tardy geode]

Again

Do it

In elder

A full 15 battles run with no specials

[twin loom]

why is that a golden rule u have to do

dont u enjoy the game?

xd

[tardy geode]

Then you two can come here, and tell us it's a viable strat

[tender sorrel]

"sorry, you didn't play the game since 2011, you can't argue"

That's how you sound rn

If you're playing elder is assumed that you have a really good team with good equipment and all

[strange vortex]

Nick, I started playing around the time you did. We both are at the same level

[hot ibex]

Without tower gear too since some want to be f2p friendly

[tardy geode]

Well i actually came back in 2020 so yeah

[strange vortex]

And I'm telling you, it's annoying in all fw survivor. You can finish off these challenges easily without revenant

[tardy geode]

Didn't play much before then

[twin loom]

im totally fine at fatal, i can beat it 2 times and reach kontender, i dont need to grind my time in hard figths to get to champion since i dont care what diamonds can give besides noob, which can i still get from kontender

[tardy geode]

2015 and 2017 few months

[tender sorrel]

I know is annoying , but I just proceed because sometimes I do use bs/revenant

And have to say sometimes it saved me

[strange vortex]

I only fought in elder a few times and all was good until revenant and bone shield happened with players with fx diamonds and fx tower equipment. Please explain to me how this is fair

[feral lintel]

i had this game aswell in 2017 but only played battle mode cause i didnt understand anything took it seriously just this year

[twin loom]

and knowing how reward-ish is this game RNG, i stated i dont need elder in my life

[tardy geode]

My account is pratically 2yo since I had almost nothing from before

[vale star]

I played this game before survivor mode existed, game used to feel more rewarding back then

[strange vortex]

It sometimes does. It's a chance. It's not guaranteed, and it's absolutely not needed when you crush your opponent before they crush you. This is literally how fighting works

[tender sorrel]

Because the game admitted it. Why a player that has FX characters and FX tower equipment shouldn't use some talents

[vale star]

Could just be me having a bad deck

[tender sorrel]

Even if that sounds unfair

[wispy sand]

Sometimes saved is so much inferior than having a consistent strategy

[tender sorrel]

Yeah, say that to the lag and the server connection, sometimes you miss a string and get punished for it

[vale star]

But man atleast back then I could stick to 3 cards and xall it a day

[hot ibex]

Yes, because back then it used to be a grind race, not a kollection race

[twin loom]

rely on luck bro, is not like this game is RNG at all

[strange vortex]

Because their fx diamonds and fx equipment will easily protect them by dying for the simple fact that they provide incredible effects

[wispy sand]

End point cause this feels like talking to walls already

[twin loom]

see ya tiasma, happy to see u

[vale star]

I hate saying this but game feels p2w now XD

[wispy sand]

Bone shield and rev are not good for new players nor vets

[tardy geode]

I can go a full match just chaining opponents without getting touched once

[wispy sand]

It either makes you play badly or not try or force you to have every kard at one shot potential

[tardy geode]

And then the roulette appears

[vale star]

It's not entirely p2w I get that but like compared to before it's significantly less rewarding

[feral lintel]

i wouldnt say pay to win cause most stuff you buy with money isnt worth anything and is too expensive

[tardy geode]

And they just murder me out of nowhere before they're even over

[tender sorrel]

Is that fair?

[tardy geode]

Yes when it's literally a single player jesus

[topaz wren]

bone shield and revenant might be worth if it was closer to the middle of the talent tree

[twin loom]

getting diamonds be like

is basically why i dont use diamonds

[strange vortex]

It is when you're fighting NPCs

[twin loom]

they are 1 shot potential

[strange vortex]

And definitely fair if you're playing properly

[twin loom]

always

[topaz wren]

NPCs like to cheat a lot in other aspects

[vale star]

Yeh that's why I hesitate, but combine the fact that you're forced to play w differenr team comps to get survivor bonus, and the fact that levelling up is a chore, AND thr fact that there's a conveniently placed 10 bucker pack that gives you 20 straight levels

[twin loom]

nerf AI

[tardy geode]

It's like playing dark soul perfect speedrun and then bosses just become invulnerable and nuke you

[twin loom]

yeah, the AI is bad

nerf it

[feral lintel]

this is not fair tho

[wispy sand]

Yeah my point stands, my patience is done for the day

[topaz wren]

maybe if invincibility was just stagger-able then it would be more fair

[tardy geode]

No difference here since mkm is single player against bots

[twin loom]

👋

[tender sorrel]

You are playing properly but guess what, sometimes the ai has priority on specials, so they will trigger before you do yours

[feral lintel]

doesn't matter if its against bots its still unfair

[tardy geode]

Yeah unfair for the player

[tender sorrel]

Then it doesn't have a reason to exists

[twin loom]

Bots is what makes this game completely unfair, to old players and new players

[vale star]

Unfair for the player good for the company's micro transactions

[wispy sand]

The only thing the AI has is the block cancel

[tardy geode]

So normal invulnerability has no reason to exist?

[strange vortex]

No problem. They can do that. I'm only against them doing that when I have no way to counter it. revenant and bs

[twin loom]

Insane speed and luck

[tardy geode]

Money can't buy skill

[tender sorrel]

Invulnerability doesn't trigger when you're going to die

[vale star]

You mean me tapping at the screen for a minute and a half straight?

[wispy sand]

It doesnt have priority on specials, you simply dont know how frame data and priority works

[tender sorrel]

Dark mantle or rain epic doesnt

[hot ibex]

last shot:

[feral lintel]

it can buy you a good team tho

[tender sorrel]

Is the only one

[tardy geode]

Proving my point

[tardy geode]

No if you can't play

[vale star]

You literally play tap titans in this game man don't talk to me about skills XD

If there was movement and actual gameplay controls then that's differenr

[wispy sand]

Low skill cap, all timing

[feral lintel]

i mean the gameplay is nothing crazy you just tap at the screen tbh

[topaz wren]

It’s a mobile game

[wispy sand]

Cause yeah, gameplay wise you dont have that many actions to do

[vale star]

So is shadow fight 2, 3 and arena

[twin loom]

Welp, if a fighter can do a combo while im at the floor, making me get hitted always when i stand up, is how AI is broken

[vale star]

They have actual gameplay controls howevee

W chaining combos and all the likes

[tardy geode]

They are pvp

This is single player

[vale star]

Nope

[twin loom]

xd

[vale star]

Sf2 is single player, sf3 is single player w some pvp element

Sf4 however is entirely pvp

[modern lion]

Ay guys

[twin loom]

AI is what make this game run like dark souls, not the talents nor the gears nor the passives

[modern lion]

How many packs do yall think i gotta open till diamond

[vale star]

My guy nothing changes the fact that the gameplay is 3 things, tap on the screen, swipe on the screen and hold on rhe screen, I'd do the same thing if I was playing temple run

[modern lion]

I opened 2 since last diamond

[vale star]

Except this game has some borken ass AI at times

[twin loom]

it does

[tardy geode]

One can be enough if you're lucky

[modern lion]

So whats your guess?

[vale star]

Which is painful when you combine it with the micro transactions

[modern lion]

1?

[vale star]

Save up for 100, oprn all at once

[feral lintel]

mk11 scorp

[slender condor]

It really all just falls down to luck. You can open 3 and get 3 in a row. You can also open 30 and get none

[twin loom]

micro transactions has nothing to do with getting gears and use it, we can only speed up the process

[feral lintel]

i opened 40 skarlet packs and got 0 diamonds

[hot ibex]

it's pay to skip grind, not p2w

[vale star]

Oh definitely, I'm just saying that there's the store for a reason

[modern lion]

Ok then we shall see

[wispy sand]

Save for the block cancel and some other little exceptions like bosses brutalizing at 35% hp AI is fair

Tho, the block cancel isnt a minor thing

[vale star]

Don't we got block breaking btw

[twin loom]

The speed bro, is unfair, the luck as well

[modern lion]

Oh and can you buy xp support cards

I have the lin kuei temple but i want more

[vale star]

Good effin luck

[wispy sand]

Block cancel is when they block attacks and dont het stagger from it

[tardy geode]

With coins

[modern lion]

From where

[tardy geode]

You have to drop then first

[vale star]

Silver pack

[wispy sand]

Imagine you start 2 jabs and ur second jab dissapears in air and you get hit back

[twin loom]

i see you are not answering me so i should stop talking to u

[tardy geode]

Then just go in the kollectionn nd fuse them

[vale star]

Oyeh Seen that more than enoufh times

[twin loom]

i can still talk to anyone here

[modern lion]

Ik thats what i did to my only xp support

[wispy sand]

Timing wise hitting one would mean that the first one should stagger them

But it doesnt, and its as if you only threw one attack and stopped

[vale star]

*** g a m e d e s i g n ***

Reminds me of Shenmue 3

[feral lintel]

i wish the grind was less tho

[twin loom]

it do be random thoughts what u speak xd

[twin loom]

i wish it too

[feral lintel]

doing 1 hour quests for 4 hours just to get 100 souls is miserable

[twin loom]

but is a game based on it

[vale star]

The grind I don't mind, it's a mobile game, grind is like the backbone of everything

But make tha thing rewarding

[wispy sand]

Grind is ok but, the way resells work and the lack of guaranteed rewards make it just be like any other gacha hell

[hot ibex]

you should have seen how it used to be back in the day prior to having quests

[feral lintel]

i know but 1 hour quests for 4 hours just to get 100 souls is nothing

[twin loom]

it was worse, but nowadays is not better either

[hot ibex]

100 souls in a week if you were lucky

[vale star]

Lol

[feral lintel]

thats mad

[vale star]

Economy was the same?

[twin loom]

u could literally buy any gold u want

[wispy sand]

Economy was awful

[twin loom]

it was balanced

[hot ibex]

challenges used to last a month each, fw season lasted 1 week and no quests

[wispy sand]

Dia packs were also a scam on release

[vale star]

Doesn't sound too bad

[wispy sand]

Same price as now, way lower chances

[tardy geode]

I remember packs with 2% total for 3 diamonds

[feral lintel]

i thought it was diffirent tho since you could buy any gold or diamond from the shop and there you could buy gold cards that werent diamond back then

[hot ibex]

forgot to mention there was only normal and hard for the challenges

[twin loom]

the only thing worse is the souls gaining situation

[vale star]

I did mk11 raiden mk11 jade challenges a year or so back

[topaz wren]

don’t you could ever buy diamonds from the shop

[wispy sand]

No

[vale star]

And fw, I can't stand survivir

[twin loom]

hence why erron still bugged

[hot ibex]

wasn't it a little bit cheaper at 360?

[wispy sand]

You could only fuse basics and golds

[vale star]

XD

[wispy sand]

I dont recall, perhaps

[feral lintel]

even now the shop is pretty much useless anyway

[vale star]

It made things way less chill

[wispy sand]

I only got one bd erron before I quit due to cheaters era

[hot ibex]

360 for the normal one and 500 for 50% dia iirc

[wispy sand]

Unplayable mess

[feral lintel]

the characters in shop now are way too expensive and none of them are worth buying except for co cassie

[twin loom]

YES, and the souls packs are crap, new diamonds doesnt require a lot of souls, u can gain up to 200 and call it a day, the packs became useless

[wispy sand]

Or rather, mercenary erron

[oak chasm]

Bounty hunter erron

[twin loom]

So u ended up getting more souls but less ways to use it

[hot ibex]

the shop was at it's best in the last update prior to 2.0

[vale star]

Sounds like US economy

[twin loom]

it do be

[topaz wren]

The US is harvesting irl souls to buy diamond packs

[hot ibex]

oh no

[vale star]

I'm always gonna be salty about the fact that I can't spam one single jumping attack in a damn mortal kombat game

[hot ibex]

i remembered something way worse than immortal cheaters

[topaz wren]

Is there anything really worse than that

[feral lintel]

i should have more then 8k souls by 30 may really hope we get discounts

[vale star]

Why warner bros do you gotta make a mobile mk and not put an actual gameplay in it

[wispy sand]

Was it the airplane thingy

[twin loom]

guys that use boneshield he would say

[hot ibex]

kl goro being bugged for around 2 years

[twin loom]

ahhhhhh

goro tag in freeezing the game

[topaz wren]

a lot of characters were extremely bugged

[hot ibex]

closing the game

[twin loom]

still are

[topaz wren]

goro just remained the most infamous

[wispy sand]

Goro first challenge was funnier

[vale star]

Unreal Engine 4 momen

[twin loom]

LOL

[vale star]

Put the most demanding engine on a damn mobile device and that's what you get

[wispy sand]

Literally had a chance to not be completed cause goro didnt wanna fall

[vale star]

It looks spectacular, at the cost of a "game"

[twin loom]

truuue

[hot ibex]

man-thing literally to angry to die

[twin loom]

When u know ps2 games can run on a phone, and then u have this game......

[tardy geode]

Ht jacqui not having a passive for 4 years:

[vale star]

When I say I'm grinding levels, I mean I'm watchinf the same 3 characters hit the same 5 punches for 10 minutes straight

[wispy sand]

Worst thing is the standing bug is alive even now

[topaz wren]

dvorah

[wispy sand]

Tho much rarer, in most cases

[vale star]

Cause the game has automode now

Raid shadow legends momen

[hot ibex]

the fun part is that they said they've "fixed" it 2 years prior

[vale star]

Mortal Kombat 4 can run on a phone, and we're still playing this

[twin loom]

YES

preach it, new era games sux

[vale star]

I grew up with Mk4 man that was iconic

[twin loom]

i did too

[tardy geode]

Mk4 shinnok looking like a court jester

[vale star]

Spam raiden charge move and kill everything

[twin loom]

polygon moment

[vale star]

I used to think he was joker from batman

[twin loom]

xd

[vale star]

But frl though i feel like they wanted to have the same aesthetic as mk10 console, which is fair enough considering the maps and all that

[wispy sand]

Reptile looked the worst