🏯-towers-relic-hunt

[fiery cipher]

I got blessed by the Elder gods 😭

Random drop R75

[brave dock]

I'm not veteran, unlike those who always reach their resell limit every day 💔

[deep isle]

What's your team tho

[willow lava]

MF where is my epic?

freaking scam i am calling cops

[ashen panther]

[grim furnace]

Black Dragon Tower Stage 30

[ashen panther]

Lmfao

[grim furnace]

I hope I can get Psych Bomb and Buzz Saw from this tower

[fluid swallow]

💀

[ashen panther]

Speed buffs from buzz saw is so good 💪

[versed otter]

Random drop?

[tribal beacon]

Report wb support team they will give back epic

[ashen panther]

Tomorrow fdqt200 R4
Hoping to get the last epic piece soul seeker

[willow lava]

OMG THANKS THAT actually worked

[fluid swallow]

Can I report it too

And use your screenshot

[deep isle]

You get to keep the Rare?

[willow lava]

sure

[willow lava]

no they took it

[deep isle]

Damn

[tribal beacon]

Fdqt 184
Without noob epic equipments
Also use f5 mk11 scropion
One shot to finish the match
I use debuff residence

[manic moth]

@sharp elk @ornate bronze @night bone I definitely found something here... lags the game so bad lmfao

It regens power insanely fast, unfortunately cant show how much very well because both her sp2 and sp3 lethal in 87...

[sharp elk]

Man that range is busted holy shet

[tribal beacon]

Fdqt 190
I use same Debuff equipment as 184

[coarse sierra]

whats the fastest way to beat 160

[robust plover]

Do you have Day of The Dead Kitana?

[coarse sierra]

yh

[ornate bronze]

Don't be shy show the build

[manic moth]

Thats the neat part, this is literally just stalker doing stalker things

I just have power gen and bb on the other slots

But its definitely not necessary

Snare would be better but unfortunately no good snaring tool for the setup

The other slots in the clip are leetha and 6th sense

[manic moth]

I think whats happening is her DoT counts as a basic... which means stalker will causally gen power from it

[ornate bronze]

Lol

Seems balanced nerf dotd jade

[manic moth]

Now just imagine if she had good DPS on the DoT lol, 4-5 stacks up all the time is crazy if it could

If she had a 4th slot you could do this build with spear to have % damage + snare and I bet it could kill bosses

Sadly tho, I couldnt make it work without stalker but its really close tbh

Anyways once again shes been out how long? And I discover something in like an hour of playing her lol

[coarse sierra]

how do i beat 160

[manic moth]

I havent seen anyone doing anything close to this

[ornate bronze]

Hmmm

Can you test spear with her dot?

No sight, just to test

[manic moth]

I already have, it wasnt proccing like crazy but we already know stalker works different. Im like 99% sure ive seen "block breaker" appear when I didnt break their block

Which would imply the DoT doing it but ofc it has no hit stun

[ornate bronze]

Lmao

Balanced

[manic moth]

At tower reset I can property showcase how much power she is generating

I cant xray in 87 for obvious reasons lol

[manic moth]

Incurability is gonna be your friend

[coarse sierra]

what unit shoudl i use

@manic moth

[fluid swallow]

Do you have noobs friendship epic

[coarse sierra]

nop

[merry ridge]

Why isn’t injustice 2 scorpion diamond too

:(

[woeful yarrow]

Idk he's pretty ass

He can stun loop ig

But even the basics are pretty

Also him being a basic gold makes this worse for him

[merry ridge]

I hope he gets an ascension soon

[woeful yarrow]

I highly doubt it

But basic golds have gotten ascensions before

[merry ridge]

What does ascension do exactly? Does it give better passive or something?

[woeful yarrow]

Slightly raises stats and allows a gold to do brut/fs

Also makes them able to do brut combo ender ofc

[merry ridge]

THATS IT?

[woeful yarrow]

But you need ascension 5

Yeah, it's not much

[clear tiger]

bruh lmfao

[merry ridge]

Excuse me

[coarse sierra]

help me beat 160

[woeful yarrow]

I mean ofc the best diamond in the game survived

[clear tiger]

I got my sp 2 off at 1 second left but I didn’t have dm so it would’ve triggered puff anyways

[clear tiger]

Is that the mk11 team

[coarse sierra]

yh

[robust plover]

Apparently, we're going to be getting more Ascension fusions in the future, so maybe Ascension X will offer something else

[clear tiger]

I assume you don’t have noob’s fs epic

[manic moth]

Cant do friendship actually, only brut

[woeful yarrow]

How did you max scorpion and can't beat f160😭

[woeful yarrow]

Oh damn

[merry ridge]

Some people don’t deserve fuse ups

[woeful yarrow]

Haven't used ascended cards that much and even less with fs set

[woeful yarrow]

That's not the only explanation

That's probably the less probable one in fact

[merry ridge]

I beat 170 fatal with mk11 F2 scorp

[coarse sierra]

elementalwarrior pack

[clear tiger]

Tbf without incurability f160 with only scorp as your best dps is a curse

[woeful yarrow]

Did you take any ss? Also how many did you drop from it?

[woeful yarrow]

Eh not really especially since he's fx he can probably do it

Or at least kill 1 or 2

[clear tiger]

True yeah can just out damage the healing

[coarse sierra]

no

[woeful yarrow]

It's not even much healing in the first place

[clear tiger]

Probably sp1 spam skarlet and shang then get a lk to deal with jade

[woeful yarrow]

Only the first dot and 1 tick every once in a while

[woeful yarrow]

How many did you drop from it?

[woeful yarrow]

Yeah unless shang has missle gap

[clear tiger]

Nah that shang’s a wuss

[coarse sierra]

bruh i dont keep track

[merry ridge]

What does ascension require, only ascension cards?

[clear tiger]

A copy of the character + an ascension card ye

[merry ridge]

Bet I got 13 cards

[clear tiger]

Who you ascendin

[woeful yarrow]

I'm asking cuz it's a bit sus

[merry ridge]

Grandmaster sub

[clear tiger]

Rlly vro he lowk D tier

[merry ridge]

He’s my only ascendable character 💀

[clear tiger]

Save them 😭😭

[merry ridge]

Everyone else F7 or lower

[woeful yarrow]

He is a basic gold so i would agree with lammie

[clear tiger]

When you try to max out hanzo and smoke or someone better you’ll weep and yearn for ascension cards

[woeful yarrow]

But tbh ascension are pretty useless

[merry ridge]

Hanzo F6 smoke F 7

[clear tiger]

They’re still far more useful than grandmaster sub0

I just got a copy of him and he’s at fx now lmao I ain’t usin that goofy ass

[merry ridge]

I just want a high stat sub to use frost mask and cold hearted equip on and grandmaster is my only one

[clear tiger]

Mk11 sub?

[coarse sierra]

i got like 13 diamonds last elemental warrior pack

[merry ridge]

F1

[clear tiger]

Same

But he’s useful as my support sometimes especially against fights with it only takes one

[woeful yarrow]

Surely couldn't be like more than 3-4 scorps

And even that is a lot

[coarse sierra]

i got like 1 other time another elemental pack summon pack

[merry ridge]

He’s goated

[clear tiger]

Here to my regular dose of white jade hate
fck you ass jade 🖕

Gon nuke yo ass

[woeful yarrow]

That doesn't exist

[coarse sierra]

in the past

[woeful yarrow]

There's just normal summon packs

[merry ridge]

I absolutely hate jade in all her forms

[woeful yarrow]

Elemental summon pack was never a thing

[merry ridge]

Assassin mk11 klassic all suck

[coarse sierra]

forgot to put comma

[woeful yarrow]

Dotd too in dotd team

[woeful yarrow]

Oh alr

[merry ridge]

That B word too

Fricking hate her guts

[woeful yarrow]

Yeah with the stupid shield

[merry ridge]

I swear jade is the worst thing that happened to MK mobile alongside tanya

[woeful yarrow]

Pyro tanya and treacherous are at least pretty good

And like all jades are good

[robust plover]

Pyro Tanya is my favorite Tanya to use

[woeful yarrow]

She is the best one and has more uses so yeah

[merry ridge]

Only useable tanya

[woeful yarrow]

Treacherous is pretty good too

[merry ridge]

Get out

[robust plover]

I stand on that hill as well

[woeful yarrow]

Dk noob

[merry ridge]

Best diamond ever best unit ever love him

Totally balanced

Matter of fact he needs a few buffs

[woeful yarrow]

I don't have him but he's one of the worst characters to face

[robust plover]

DK Noob's tag in alone makes him overpowered

[clear tiger]

I once rerolled after seeing him for the boss fight in krypt and I proceeded to get dk noob and geras too

[woeful yarrow]

A lot of

[merry ridge]

Aka best character to have

[woeful yarrow]

😂 at least he's first in that one

[woeful yarrow]

I have 33.33% for him from diamond kasket

[clear tiger]

GERAS PHYSICALLY BREAKS MY GAME

[woeful yarrow]

I don't wanna buy diamond kasket tho

[clear tiger]

backshots of time so strong it freezes my game

[merry ridge]

Get him asap

[woeful yarrow]

I'm not wasting on that gng😭

Maybe if it's 100%

[merry ridge]

Yeah thanks for reminding me of that stupid ass trend I hate you

[clear tiger]

LOLOLOL

[woeful yarrow]

But till i get freddy and guardian term no

[merry ridge]

99% of gamblers quit before winning DK noob

[merry ridge]

Seen it 50 times a days my feed was a sewer

[woeful yarrow]

It's not like i'm even gonna use him that much cuz he'll slow down my fights, i only want him for a troll strat

And like survivor

[robust plover]

Back shots of time are so bs. I'm still mad about the time I managed to freeze him, tried to tag in another character who had snare to hopefully keep him in the fight to kill him, and the game wouldn't let me use my Special because his power took priority, but he couldn't cast it

[merry ridge]

See

[merry ridge]

Well it’s geras

[woeful yarrow]

Also i believe it gives damage reduction too when he activates that bar which is even more bs

Wait just realized been on holiday and lost the login streak

[merry ridge]

Time to delete the game

[woeful yarrow]

Real

[manic moth]

Lol i lost my 500 day streak the other week

[clear tiger]

Nahh ☠️☠️😭😭

[fluid swallow]

Skill issue

[manic moth]

It was when there was no fatal and krypt sucked I just couldnt be bothered to login

[fluid swallow]

Sheepy you made me lose my like 750 day streak💔

[clear tiger]

Boutta take a 14 hour flight in 2 weeks so uhm hopefully I can log in

[fluid swallow]

Good luck bestie

[woeful yarrow]

It's not even like we lost out on much anyways

[robust plover]

Geras breaks the game in so many ways, and they're all annoying

[clear tiger]

Thank you bestie 🔥 I get to leave this foul country and actually eat good food 💞

[fluid swallow]

Is it just me that geras had never bugged for

[fluid swallow]

The food is good wym

[manic moth]

Nah the streak rewards suck

[clear tiger]

No tf it ain’t

[manic moth]

Its trash

[fluid swallow]

Yes tf it is

[fluid swallow]

You live in a worse place tho dont you😔

[clear tiger]

Sorry I forgot you’re actually British

[woeful yarrow]

Reckon bdt summons are worth it?

[fluid swallow]

I feel bad that you arent

[clear tiger]

Hell nah

[fluid swallow]

Yes

[woeful yarrow]

I feel bad that you are

[manic moth]

No the tower sucks ass lol

[woeful yarrow]

Hope you get better

[fluid swallow]

The food is immaculate

[woeful yarrow]

So epic kaskets it is?

[manic moth]

The rework made it honestly the worst tower in the game ngl

[fluid swallow]

You are missing 11 epics focus on that

[merry ridge]

Oi bruv bit mad innit yeah?

[clear tiger]

Never catching me eating British cuisine bro im forever eating at local Chinese restaurants

[woeful yarrow]

No

[manic moth]

Literally none of the gear is redeeming

[fluid swallow]

Noone talks like that😔

[woeful yarrow]

Psych bomb

[merry ridge]

Lies

[woeful yarrow]

Smugglers luck

[fluid swallow]

Ive never had a Chinese ngl

[manic moth]

Oh you gonna FX it? Lmao

[woeful yarrow]

Fx heart

[manic moth]

Nah

[fluid swallow]

Genuinely never heard someone say that

[clear tiger]

See exactly you ain’t got shite to talk bout

[manic moth]

Heart and luck suck even FX

[merry ridge]

Now you did

[woeful yarrow]

Watch me drop 9 fusions

[fluid swallow]

Ive heard its good

[fluid swallow]

I meant irl, obviously ive seen jokes about it

[ashen panther]

Don,t forget the One bdt uncommon that give luck

[merry ridge]

Discord is real enough to me

[fluid swallow]

@manic moth do I even sound British 🤔

[manic moth]

You dont need summon packs to max that lol

[fluid swallow]

I understand 🥀

[merry ridge]

💔

[manic moth]

Yes

[clear tiger]

I would like to have kebab’s brut set

[merry ridge]

Why this server doesn’t have VC

[fluid swallow]

You sound British too

[merry ridge]

Stole my joke wow

[fluid swallow]

Bcs people are weird and it would get toxic

[clear tiger]

I mean it’s not multiplayer or anythin

[clear tiger]

Fym 💔

[woeful yarrow]

It's not that great

[ashen panther]

I m saying that some bdt equipments are good not all trash

[merry ridge]

Kebab

[woeful yarrow]

Yeah but not that great

[clear tiger]

But I would like to have it anyways

[fluid swallow]

I used to vc with some people's whilst playing krypt or smt

[merry ridge]

Smh

[ashen panther]

Kano set completed

[manic moth]

If a gear is directly outclassed its usually not worth talking about lol

[merry ridge]

Perfect

[manic moth]

Like ice bomb is kinda the only uncommon that truly stands out

[woeful yarrow]

What outclasses bomb?

Even below fx

[manic moth]

Actually some of the ToT uncommons do too

[fluid swallow]

Thats from lin kuei tower?

[manic moth]

Cleaver lol

[woeful yarrow]

Yeah

[fluid swallow]

Idk how to spell it

[woeful yarrow]

Can't kill tho

[manic moth]

You spelled it right

[fluid swallow]

Need that tower to come back ngl

[fluid swallow]

British powers of guessing

[manic moth]

Bomb damage is absolute dog it wont kill anyways

Literally ronin who has EVERY gear maxed couldnt make bomb work

Its good for its FX and nothing else

[woeful yarrow]

Idk also cleaver goes through dk noob passive

For some reason ,ig he can't parry a cleaver

[fluid swallow]

I miss my old account

[manic moth]

Also you can just tap once

[clear tiger]

Can’t parry this filthy casual

[merry ridge]

No u don’t

[manic moth]

And youll kill after cleaver lol

[fluid swallow]

Oh youre right

[manic moth]

Its not like cleaver being non lethal changes much

[woeful yarrow]

Are hooks still good?

[fluid swallow]

I got this and thought it was a dark mantle fusion 💔

[manic moth]

Its just ok

The "nerf"/fix really hurt

[woeful yarrow]

So no fusing it right?

[merry ridge]

Reasons why klassic raiden is best diamond, example 1 :

[manic moth]

Its still cheesy

[woeful yarrow]

I maxed noobs rare

[manic moth]

Its better than klassic ermac into most bosses

So thats something at least

[woeful yarrow]

Thing is i don't need ermac

[manic moth]

Exactly

[merry ridge]

U need glasses

[fluid swallow]

Should have gone to Specsavers smh

[manic moth]

It went from the best gear of all time to mid tier

Sad times

[woeful yarrow]

Hopefully next update comes with some reworks

[manic moth]

Honestly very unlikely

[woeful yarrow]

Or at least fix princess guard to make it a bit less terrible

[manic moth]

NT is most likely next rework, and thatll be at halloween

[woeful yarrow]

No my f1 stormweaver

[manic moth]

Lol

Weaver is 100% losing attack boost

[woeful yarrow]

Dang it

[manic moth]

I just hope they keep the power

[woeful yarrow]

Wrath hammer indirect buff

Eliminating the opposition slowly

[manic moth]

I kid you not I bet by the end of reworks

Hammer is gonna be the only attack boost

[woeful yarrow]

Yeah

[manic moth]

Every single rework has removed attack boost

[woeful yarrow]

I'm thinking that too

[manic moth]

Its weird to me

Its not even that insane

[woeful yarrow]

Make primal bait do something

Or killer jacket

[manic moth]

I mean damage boost is better in everyway

And that goes to 100% from pipe...

[woeful yarrow]

Unlike some other stuff

[manic moth]

But 25% attack is somehow to much?

[woeful yarrow]

What do you think is the worst epic?

Tower epic*

[manic moth]

Im actually excited for NT rework even if weaver might die

The worst hmm

[woeful yarrow]

Maybe the 2 underwhelming ones get good

Noobs brut epic is pretty terrible

[manic moth]

Guandao blade maybe lol

[woeful yarrow]

Idk i feel like it's better than primal bait

[fluid swallow]

Day 1 of asking for a rainbowsheep tower

[woeful yarrow]

That one is kinda useless

[manic moth]

Bait having blind synergy saves it imo

Its still absolutely trash but

Its something

[woeful yarrow]

Thing is that's kinda it, maybe princess guard then?

[manic moth]

Guard is really bad yea

Especially with crown directly power creeping it

[woeful yarrow]

In every aspect

Cuz the fx effect nerfs the first one

So 15% lethal chance for not being able to chain 2 in a row😭

[manic moth]

I just maxed soul seeker yesterday

So I guess I should test it out

[woeful yarrow]

I don't think it's that bad tbh

A bit outdated but can do it's job

[manic moth]

If it has old stun duration ill enjoy it in survival at least lol

[woeful yarrow]

I wonder if death brand counts as a dm

Cuz if it does it could make it pretty good

[manic moth]

Well I mean you need 3 stacks anyway

Just use abyssal nightmare

[woeful yarrow]

Like for the healing

[manic moth]

Ah

[woeful yarrow]

But yeah

[manic moth]

Timeless sentinel is kinda a contender ngl

[woeful yarrow]

Eh it's good on geras

[manic moth]

Its not though like

He preforms better canceling enders

Which is so painful

Kusa also just annoys me because the FX id direct anti synergy but I cant say its bad

[woeful yarrow]

Yeah i said this too but

Fenix said it saved him a lot in survivor

So maybe it's pretty good

[manic moth]

Its ok

It not useless, just not good

I mean any healing can be useful there so

[woeful yarrow]

Well of souls seems garbage

[manic moth]

Yea it is lol

Unreliable BB and then its not even a good %?

Like tbh, if it was 100% bb it would be really cool

Since its fully disabled from any debuff

[woeful yarrow]

Also only usefull on a character who could use better stuff(meaning kl smoke)(karambit)

And maybe shang

Idk i don't have the well

[manic moth]

Yea lantern already gives resistance too

Its just dumb

50% is the standard for epics already

[woeful yarrow]

I have no idea what the kano one does

[manic moth]

Theres no payoff and a huge downside

[woeful yarrow]

But i'm pretty sure it's underwhelming

[manic moth]

It is

But it does ok overall

I would buff it massively though

Should be 100% to apply not 50%

And should go to 50% cost reduction not 30%

[woeful yarrow]

Idk mine is f1

So i haven't even used it yet lol

[manic moth]

Those 2 changes would fix it

[woeful yarrow]

2 changes can fix anything

Tbh

[manic moth]

WW should work for 25 hits tbh

[woeful yarrow]

Anyways i think i'll go do towers and krypt now, any prediction for f100?(in case i have it this refresh)

[woeful yarrow]

25k*

[manic moth]

Assassin jade

[woeful yarrow]

Would be pretty nice

Tmrw f100

I left it at 61 apparently

[manic moth]

@ornate bronze block breaker but still blocking, definitely gash doing it

Omg

I just got a hook idea waittt she might be broken

I just gotta see if I can make it fully work lol but its probably impossible without stalker whyyyy is she a gold 🥲

[mental grove]

Final F200

No Puff for me 😭

[manic moth]

Oh yeah this feels right

[tribal beacon]

Wow 😲😲😲😲😲

I already used klassic skarlet in fdqt 160 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂#🏯-towers-relic-hunt message

[tribal beacon]

Use klk
You have f5 klk 😂😂😂

[coarse sierra]

thought he gon bleed

[coarse sierra]

wht gesr u use

[ornate bronze]

Time to cheese bosses?

[ornate bronze]

You already know I'm doing my behind the scenes magic to get that 4th slot on golds

[analog storm]

First time playing this tower, roughly low 6k DK ish and used fuseups on puff

[tribal beacon]

Put all epic klk
Kill one by one

[coarse sierra]

tower gear?

[tribal beacon]

Yes

[coarse sierra]

how many attemt

[tribal beacon]

Two attempt

Or use your scorpion with mileena rare equipment
Keep on try

[coarse sierra]

what the klassicc scarlet do

[tribal beacon]

She gives 20% bb ordinary team mates if klassic teamatea 30%

[coarse sierra]

Unfortunately ion have klassic scarlet

[ornate bronze]

40% to klassic teammates

20% to everyone, 10% extra for each klassic teammate

[tribal beacon]

Try with your mk11 scorpion

[tribal sentinel]

If anyone needs a free win for the dark queen tower here just use mk11 liu kang

[woeful yarrow]

We don't need this

It would just be weird

[ornate bronze]

We need it and i'll make sure we get it

[analog storm]

No reason why people can’t accept that golds are golds and mid

[woeful yarrow]

And like what would the point of golds/diamonds be

[analog storm]

Exactly lol

[woeful yarrow]

If they can do exactly what diamonds can

[tribal sentinel]

Diamonds lose their value

[ornate bronze]

Ascension 10:

[coarse sierra]

how bout 160

[woeful yarrow]

Still pretty easy to get

[tribal sentinel]

160 is which battle again?

[woeful yarrow]

Seems pointless and complicated for no reason

[ornate bronze]

It doesn't exist yet

[tribal sentinel]

I finished the tower twice

[ornate bronze]

It's not tho it's actually pretty simple

[woeful yarrow]

It would require the same stuff i would assumr

[tribal sentinel]

Yo

[woeful yarrow]

It's pointless

[ornate bronze]

Some golds would be better than diamonds with a 4th slot

It would literally be the only reason to use golds

[woeful yarrow]

Just make them diamonds gng

That would be such a stupid update

[ornate bronze]

Lame and cheap

[woeful yarrow]

A10 is even lamer

[analog storm]

What’s the point of gold and diamond distinction then?

Just cosmetic ? 🤣

[woeful yarrow]

Yes

[ornate bronze]

Golds need 20 fusions, diamonds don't need any for the 4th slot

Sounds simple enough

[woeful yarrow]

At some point it doesn't even matter

[tribal sentinel]

DM

[ornate bronze]

It's happening that you want it or not

[woeful yarrow]

Just a waste of content imo, would make the game less fun

[ornate bronze]

Says who

[woeful yarrow]

Me

I already explained myself

[ornate bronze]

Don't use them then

[analog storm]

Me2

[ornate bronze]

Every single veteran complains that golds are useless because they don't have a 4th slot

[analog storm]

And they should be

[ornate bronze]

There's literally no purpose to gold existings at all nowadays

[coarse sierra]

yo

[analog storm]

No issue with that

[woeful yarrow]

If they'd have the 4th gear slot they'd be diamonds bro

[ornate bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-drumpf-trump-stupid-gif-6220235

[woeful yarrow]

And they'll also be able to do brut/fs

Which is basically what diamonds are

[analog storm]

They can tho

[ornate bronze]

They can already

[woeful yarrow]

Just with stupid extra steps

[ornate bronze]

Ascension 5 unlocks brutalities for golds

[woeful yarrow]

Ik

Point is why make them extra steps diamonds

[ornate bronze]

Point is money

[woeful yarrow]

What would be the point of gold rarity then

[analog storm]

Lets also make a50 silvers and 4 slots to make them useful

[ornate bronze]

And if they want to sell golds there needs to be a reason for them to exist

[woeful yarrow]

There's better ways

[woeful yarrow]

Like new golds being good or rare

Not like ascension 10😭

[ornate bronze]

Ascension 10 is happening

We don't know when, but it is

[woeful yarrow]

It's the lamest and worst update they could do

[ornate bronze]

Just a matter of when, not if

[ornate bronze]

It's not but alr

They either stop making golds altogether, or give golds a reason to exist with the 4th slot

[woeful yarrow]

I'd rather the 1st thing

[tribal beacon]

I always like new strategy 😂😂😂

[woeful yarrow]

Might as well upgrade to diamonds directly instead of ascension 10

[ornate bronze]

Yeah but the 1st thing is not an option for them so

People wanting to just increase the rarity is so lame

[woeful yarrow]

Y not? It's not like golds are gonna make them much money anyways

[ornate bronze]

Oh yeah just make them diamonds instead of giving them new mechanics

[woeful yarrow]

And ain't nobody buying ascensions for golds

Like with real money

[woeful yarrow]

What new mechanic bro?

[ornate bronze]

You see the kl skarlet pass?

Yeah

Every new gold is getting one

You don't seem to get it

[woeful yarrow]

Then that's a good enough way to make profit from golds

[ornate bronze]

Every new character going forward is getting their own pass and an early access

It's not

[woeful yarrow]

No need to add dumb stuff

[ornate bronze]

There needs to be an actual purpose to golds

Aka the 4th slot

Why people call making the game better dumb and pointless

[woeful yarrow]

.

[ornate bronze]

The 4th slot for golds bruh

And ascension 10

[woeful yarrow]

Cuz it's not making it better in any way

[ornate bronze]

Says who

[woeful yarrow]

I mean different mechanic from diamonds

[ornate bronze]

How is being able to make proper builds with golds not a good thing

[woeful yarrow]

Willy wonka, ofc me bro i'm saying that

[ornate bronze]

Diamonds are worthless anyway we got more diamonds than golds already

There isn't any rarity factor

[woeful yarrow]

Cuz it removes the point of diamonds

[ornate bronze]

Their perk would be that they can use brutalities and 4 equipments right at f0 instead of needing f20

[analog storm]

Literally the distinction of tiers itself means diamonds should be superior to golds

They shouldn’t be equal

[ornate bronze]

Like it already works

[woeful yarrow]

Making golds diamonds with extra steps is not great

[merry ridge]

is that in the game after ascention?

[woeful yarrow]

^

[ornate bronze]

It's not great it's necessary

[ornate bronze]

Not yet

[merry ridge]

damn it

[analog storm]

And if the ideally optimal strategy includes a gold in the team instead of 3 diamonds, that just ruins the point of tiers

[ornate bronze]

But me and other mods/realm warriors give the devs suggestions and feedback on what to add so

It's coming

Sooner or later but it's coming

Because it's necessary

[merry ridge]

smoke with only 3 slots kills my soul so bad

[analog storm]

Coming in 2040

[ornate bronze]

Tiers are already pointless, diamonds are more common and easier to get than modern golds lmao

[woeful yarrow]

Idk man i said my feedback on it you do you

[ornate bronze]

We have more diamonds than challenge golds

[analog storm]

Tiers aren’t rarity based

[woeful yarrow]

Still should matter imo

[analog storm]

Tiers just distinct between stats and slots

[ornate bronze]

Diamonds are worthless, a new rarity is needed too

Above diamonds

[woeful yarrow]

This i agree with

[analog storm]

They need to fix epic equipments first

[woeful yarrow]

And if it's gonna be too op you could maybe limit it with 1 per team idk

[analog storm]

Esp TOT ones, new but garbage

[ornate bronze]

We need legendary gears

[woeful yarrow]

Yeah that sounds like it would be painfull to face

[analog storm]

I mean at the end of the day its net equal

[woeful yarrow]

There's worse ones too

[analog storm]

diamond vs diamond is same as new tier vs new tier

Wouldn’t really matter much

[ornate bronze]

Give the new rarity 5 slots

[analog storm]

Yeah BDT

[ornate bronze]

And diamond ascensions

[analog storm]

Joke of a tower icl

[woeful yarrow]

Draco i think you need to take some meds

[analog storm]

Not a single good epic that is like worth grinding for

[ornate bronze]

Psych bomb is good

[woeful yarrow]

Yes

[merry ridge]

thats broken tho'

[woeful yarrow]

Heart at fx too

[fluid swallow]

#💬-general message

[ornate bronze]

What else would you give it

[woeful yarrow]

And smugglers luck

[merry ridge]

6 slots

[ornate bronze]

Equipments are the only thing that matter, more slots is the only thing a new rarity would have to offer outside of the usual extra stats and broken passive

[woeful yarrow]

At least make a limit of them on the team cuz 5 gears is very broken

[ornate bronze]

There won't be no limit on them

[woeful yarrow]

Cringe

[analog storm]

Just delete the game lowk

[woeful yarrow]

Fr

[ornate bronze]

The modern game needs to be completely powercrept

[analog storm]

Edited

[ornate bronze]

There doesn't need to be any current character left in future S tier tier lists 5 years from now

[analog storm]

MK could reallt turn around with the new krypt update tbh

[woeful yarrow]

Ur seeing a very interesting future of the game

I personally don't like it tho

[fluid swallow]

They should just add mko back

[ornate bronze]

That too

[fluid swallow]

I miss mko

Imagine where we would be at now

[ornate bronze]

Hopefully we'd have had leggy gears by now

[merry ridge]

we need more bronze characters

[analog storm]

We need this in mkm

[woeful yarrow]

The only thing i liked abt mko is them making the blind swordsman a sniper

[fluid swallow]

Real

[woeful yarrow]

That part was pretty funny

[fluid swallow]

@analog storm did I get a good amount of kills

[analog storm]

1v1 realistics

[fluid swallow]

Sure

[analog storm]

What do you think are the odds of you winning

[fluid swallow]

Probably 100%

[analog storm]

wait js need to install it rq and can prob play in an hour and a half or so

[merry ridge]

why is fortnite in a mk server

[fluid swallow]

I can't play for like 2 days but dm me and I'll add you

[fluid swallow]

Draco plays it too

[analog storm]

Ah aight

[merry ridge]

draco is a triator

[fluid swallow]

I'm going out with some friends tomorrow all day so won't be home😔

[fluid swallow]

@ornate bronze @manic moth odds of me winning the 1v1 on fortnite

[analog storm]

This is my last free day not sure when i can play after this

[fluid swallow]

@analog storm what server are you

[analog storm]

No clue European

[fluid swallow]

😭

[fluid swallow]

So Europe servers

[ornate bronze]

Do i even have to say it?

[fluid swallow]

Weppley doesn't know

[analog storm]

Send a clip

[fluid swallow]

@analog storm im a boxfighter mainly but realistics is fine

[fluid swallow]

You can see when we 1v1🤗

[analog storm]

Just seeeeeend

[fluid swallow]

Why

[analog storm]

I will know if i win or not based on just one gameplay clip

[mossy plover]

Is it just my terrible luck or what cause I tried this fight with the gear someone recommended. But most of my attempts end on incurability and snare just not wanting to activate.

[ornate bronze]

Poison stops regen too

[tribal beacon]

Your cards fusion too weak need epic tower equipment or use higher fusion cards.

[mossy plover]

Yeah thought so still happy since this is the highest I got in fatal

[tribal beacon]

Nice. you best in what you have.

[manic moth]

If you watch the footage you can see the 15% speed from 6th sense stack incredibly fast without breaking the block once lmao

A DoT that acts like a basic, stuff like that is what I love just random niche interactions that have cool things

[ornate bronze]

What do you think, spear or hooks better?

[fluid swallow]

W

[manic moth]

Ultimately spear, but sadly the DoT cant trigger it

[ornate bronze]

Rip

[ornate bronze]

Does it work with puff?

[manic moth]

Two fights I wanna highlight

Also not sure if this is a bug but gash wont apply on block if they dont have any stacks, but WILL apply through block if they do

[mental grove]

I'm down for a fourth equipment slot for golds. On some, the lack of a fourth slot is all that holds them back. It would be nice to get use out of these old cards again.

A10 is going to take a lifetime though. You'll need like 5 free Kombat pass seasons just to have enough Ascension konsumables for a single character.

[manic moth]

You can also buy ascention cards and while that is probably not the best idea efficiency wise, its at least a f2p way to do it

Well thats enough testing for today lol

[mental grove]

When A10 is released I hope we get new ways to get new golds. Or at least disclose the waiting period for them to become available in packs and as random gold drops n

[lyric grove]

you just need to wait until the next update, and it's not like you can't get them f2p

[calm sun]

Must be nice

[lyric grove]

give 🫴

[ornate bronze]

Nuh uh

[lyric grove]

Ok then I'll keep this

[manic moth]

🥲

[ornate bronze]

Whip fx, seeker and gown f9, puff f6

Admitted my puff was f1 too 3 months ago

But man those dk packs aren't dropping shi

Have to open around 30 per epic

[manic moth]

I dropped 6500 DK

So tbh I dont need to hear it lol

[ornate bronze]

F

If it consoles you i'm at 0 puffs from dk packs too

Rn my focus is on dropping 1 epic fuse up from krypt so i can fx pipe

[manic moth]

@night bone @ornate bronze @sharp elk bro I swear to god...

[calm sun]

Why was that the first thing i noticed🤣🤣🤣

Just casually have every tower gear maxed

[clear tiger]

Dios mio..

[ornate bronze]

Bro doesn't have a script to be able to read 💔

[calm sun]

Wait

Omg.. her passive is literally…

[manic moth]

Yeah

[calm sun]

bruh

I understand now

[manic moth]

Lol

[calm sun]

I just lost battle 72 bc i had the wrong team on F LIZARD BARAKA

[half pelican]

Any suggestions on beating this I am frustrated with noob
Beginner account

[calm sun]

INCURABILITY

Drops from BDT

LIU KANG IS THE MVP OF 106

[half pelican]

I have basic equip only one incurability is it possible through talent tree?

[calm sun]

I don’t think so

[manic moth]

@night bone @ornate bronze so I found out for some reason klassic skarlet sp2 is actually 2 different specials, the initial kick and then her whole special after (reminds me of mk1 smokes sp1) the effects of this ive noticed so far are 1. Stunt buddy stunt double takes no damage and literally dodges the special completely and skarlet whiffs and 2. It completely bypasses ice armor because the armor breaks on the kick

The visual of the armor lingers but it does full damage

[jaunty plover]

anyone know how to beat fatal 170 jade, kabal, scorpion

This is my gear for my main guy

[visual escarp]

Do you have abyssal wraiths shadow?

Or klassic scorpion kameo?

[jaunty plover]

been playing for about 2 months near 3 months

Yes I do have him

[jaunty plover]

ye I have him

klassic scorp kameo

[visual escarp]

Klassic scorp kameo applies incurability

[jaunty plover]

o that is actually genius

[visual escarp]

One way is you could maybe use kameo instantly, then lose the fight before it wears off

Then slowly but surely get them all down to 1hp

Although that’ll take quite a few tries,

Another thing is to not use mk11 scorpion, as he applies fire dot which will heal all the enemies (if jade is still alive)

[jaunty plover]

O if not scorp then who cause these are my characters

[fiery cipher]

My first resell 😢

[visual escarp]

I’m not good at team building, but maybe klassic smoke, MK 11 Shang, and mk11 sub

Don’t take my word thou gh

[calm sun]

Wait how?

[visual escarp]

In a recent update they gave a bunch of the kameos new buffs, klassic scorpion kameo now applies incurability on sp1

[calm sun]

I would’ve picked scorpion and not sub zero if i knew that

[visual escarp]

Yeah

Very glad I chose scorp now

[mental grove]

It feels like I've been getting an uncommon drop every other level of BDT so far.

[calm sun]

I mean i have the mask but 100% chance would’ve been nicer

[calm sun]

My black dragon sword alr like F3😭

[visual escarp]

Mask? Which equipment is that?

[calm sun]

Wicked sister

[manic moth]

Well giving him incurability happened literally this update

[calm sun]

Whens next update?

[manic moth]

Little under a month

[visual escarp]

Yeah, finally there is a reason to chose klassic scorp instead of klassic sub,

[mental grove]

I got Scorpion from ToT.

I still haven't picked my free Kameo 😂
I can either make Scorpion slightly faster or get a second SZ Kameo with freeze.

I'll wait till after the next update to see if they fix the debuff timer on freeze. Right now by the time the animation is done freeze has almost wore off.

[calm sun]

Scorp-Zero😆

[woeful yarrow]

F100

[proud pawn]

F200

[merry ridge]

How to beat F175

[proud pawn]

Oh I don’t really remember that fight but you can watch tutorials on yt

[ashen panther]

What the f@k!🤬 😭
Fdqt180

[merry ridge]

What team u using

[ashen panther]

K rain+ mk11 lk and raiden mk11 ( soak)

[merry ridge]

What fusion levels

[ashen panther]

Rain f7 and others fx

[merry ridge]

Nvm 💔

[ashen panther]

Wait lk f9

[wicked crag]

lol

[deep isle]

N65

[deep isle]

@merry ridge what’s your kollection again?

[deep isle]

It sounds wrong. For me, Freeze time starts when the main character returns to the fighting position.

[mental grove]

I haven't used it in a while.
Maybe it's the way I was using it.
I was freezing and then tagging in KLMR for the tap screen passive. The freeze doesn't last long enough.

[tribal beacon]

how r u alr at 65??

[mossy plover]

battle 80 is the highest you can get atm

[desert warren]

Clearing fatal is gonna be very hard for you

[merry ridge]

You don’t say…

[woeful yarrow]

Especially cuz bdt is a weird one

But i think if you can beat 184 you can beat the tower

Idk i was stuck at 184 last time it was here

[desert warren]

Once you reach fatal 184 is much bigger headache than 175

[woeful yarrow]

But my acc was weak

[woeful yarrow]

In dqt or bdt?

[desert warren]

Dark queen

[woeful yarrow]

Actuallt probably both but yeah

[desert warren]

. It's dark queen

[woeful yarrow]

What's 175?

Team with terminator?

[desert warren]

Team with assasin jade klassic liu kang hellspawn scorpion

[merry ridge]

Assassin jade with arctic wind

[tribal beacon]

Using souls???

[mossy plover]

yeah

[tribal beacon]

Oh

[desert warren]

If you have resistance gear use it and in talents use that resistance one too

[woeful yarrow]

Ez

Just use sfs, with kl raiden,kc sonya and varmint lucky hat on scorpion

And hope you don't die while frozen

[desert warren]

I have cleared the Tower 2 times it's dep whose having problem

[woeful yarrow]

Yeah it was for him

[desert warren]

You tagged me

[woeful yarrow]

Yeah mb

[faint dune]

What is the next tower after BD? 🙂

[desert warren]

No idea it will be released in next update patch notes

[faint dune]

Ok. And when the patches are out?

[ornate bronze]

End of june

[deep isle]

How’s everyone in the towers?

[calm sun]

I lost fight 72😆

[deep isle]

You might have to play MK11 Scorpion, MK11 Sub-Zero and Klassic Raiden

Which makes you fight Klassic Liu Kang last, but at least you can kill the other two quickly, really don’t wanna mess with Jade

And perhaps change your talent tree to Revenant and Shinnok’s Teachings

[deep isle]

How lmao

[calm sun]

I had the wrong team 😭

I accidentally took off mk11 scorp for kl ermac bc of boss fight on 70

[deep isle]

Bro…

[calm sun]

And left him and didn’t realize until i started then tagged in kl ermac😭

[merry ridge]

I’ll see

[calm sun]

If baraka doesnt heal after tagging out i wouldve won

[merry ridge]

Snare

[calm sun]

I didnt have WPA and he won the 50/50 on kcjc passive

Just my luck honestly

[merry ridge]

Felt

[calm sun]

It’s okay I’m only 1 fight behind

It was bound to happen bc I’m sure I’m not going to one attempt fight 90

[merry ridge]

Did that now I’ll try again but I don’t wanna spend souls

[clear tiger]

For the love of god bro my other rares are still stuck at f8

[jagged bear]

What's klk once again?😅

[brave dock]

Klassic liu kang

[jagged bear]

Oh okay

[tender sparrow]

FDQT 198

[calm sun]

Gg!

[tender sparrow]

Thanks blud

BDT 78

[calm sun]

😭

HOW

[tender sparrow]

What 😂

[calm sun]

I haven’t gotten any rares yet

[tender sparrow]

It will come with time

[calm sun]

I hope

[tender sparrow]

It will

[half pelican]

How do I win I don't have any incurability gear

[long birch]

Final FDQT run

[clear tiger]

You got kl reptile? Poison can stop regen

They don’t have jade so that’s good news

[lyric grove]

Then don't use trashcorpion

[half pelican]

No I don't I joined after lunar

[clear tiger]

Damn

[half pelican]

Erm how that helps the case lmao

[clear tiger]

Don’t mind him lmao he a number 1 mk11 scorp hater

[half pelican]

Oh I see

[clear tiger]

You’ve got anything with poison tho

[half pelican]

But seriously bro this fight is infuriating how do I win lmao

[half pelican]

I'll search with gear and effects

[lyric grove]

Nah not even hater

I speak the truth , just that

[clear tiger]

😭😭😭😭

[half pelican]

@clear tiger cooked fr

[clear tiger]

Oh nahhh

At the same time tho why do you have scorp on first slot

[half pelican]

I am dead so dead I can't even explain lmao why it's so hard

[lyric grove]

As I stated before, I don't help people who use mk11 asscorpion, and it's even worse when that garbage is at the first spot in the team

[clear tiger]

You can tag in to apply another stack of fire

[half pelican]

I know my bad Ill switch I was trying different strategy

[half pelican]

Bro I think your ragebaiting but I mean on scorpion doesn't work like that

[clear tiger]

Were you able to outdamage their healing?

@fluid swallow Bestie are you able to help out

[fluid swallow]

Not rn

[clear tiger]

🥀

[calm sun]

2 best drops from bdt💔

[fluid swallow]

I'm at a food place rn

[clear tiger]

[calm sun]

Also got this garbage to fx

[clear tiger]

Damn I just realised I haven’t eaten since I woke up

[clear tiger]

I’ve got my first fx diamond before I fxed monk

He’s too powerful

[calm sun]

LMAO

[fluid swallow]

Should I order you some food too

[clear tiger]

I still haven’t fxed monk

[calm sun]

i dont have any bronzes fx

[clear tiger]

No I’ll just eat buldak ramen

[fluid swallow]

No I'll order you pure British food

[clear tiger]

fck no

[fluid swallow]

Youre racist to British

[clear tiger]

The amount of salt you guys put is foul

[loud peak]

F100

[clear tiger]

you colonised us fym

[fluid swallow]

I dont have salt

[fluid swallow]

Maybe bcs you're racist

[clear tiger]

OUUH W

[loud peak]

Ty

[fluid swallow]

Raiden

[clear tiger]

Insane 🥀💔💔💔

[clear tiger]

[fluid swallow]

Im gna colonise you with raiden on my side

[clear tiger]

NOOO HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT

I mean dark Raiden maybe

But no 🥀🥀🥀

[fluid swallow]

Would you join the british if raiden was British

[clear tiger]

[calm sun]

I’d join for beans on toast

[fluid swallow]

W

[half pelican]

@clear tiger how to do I counter noob saibot why tf he doesn't let me tag

[clear tiger]

Did you get snared?

[fluid swallow]

Is Lammie the teacher here

[clear tiger]

Hey you said you can’t help so I’m tryin

[half pelican]

No somehow after combo ender he comes stabs and that happens in the time I am about to tag weather he is active opponent or standby

[clear tiger]

Could you record that

[half pelican]

I mean atleast he is giving suggestions

[half pelican]

Alright

[merry ridge]

Yo bro your plan fkn SUCKS

I always get to kl liu last and his health is full and keeps healing even with constant SP2 incurability and klassic scorpion incurability

[deep isle]

Hey you got two people

[merry ridge]

I always get blinded and arctic wind then he SP and heals full

[deep isle]

Honestly that’s my best one for you

Because let’s be real, your roster fkn sucks

[fluid swallow]

I teach Lammie btw

[merry ridge]

I know but we push thru

How do u think I got to 175 fatal in the first place

[grim wing]

dqt 100

[deep isle]

This would be easier with MK11 Liu Kang

[grim wing]

he good??

[merry ridge]

Pure fk it we ball energy

[deep isle]

But you don’t have him

Sooooooo

[merry ridge]

I’m gonna pull him from the deepest pits of hell

Just you wait

[deep isle]

lol good luck

Anywho

[clear tiger]

😭😭😭

[merry ridge]

Anywho I’m not getting that diamond from F180

Rip

[deep isle]

Any good BDT drop

[deep isle]

Allegedly

You might get a Swarm Queen D’Vorah

[merry ridge]

😔

[clear tiger]

Nah

[deep isle]

Ive so far got Cybernetic Heart and Stone Fists in summon packs

Elbow Blades in tower

I can do Kano’s Brutality now

[clear tiger]

My luck is down the drain

[shut horizon]

Got the best diamond from fatal 100

[clear tiger]

Jaxophone and mantle stuck at f8 while the tower keeps giving me festive mask smh

[deep isle]

@clear tiger any way you can help this guy pass 175?

Arctic Wind always gets people

[clear tiger]

Geras for Arctic wind? Then again there’s white jade so she would be annoying

[deep isle]

I don’t think Arctic Wind is reflectable

[grim wing]

white jade??

[clear tiger]

Since when

[grim wing]

i think it is

[shut horizon]

Brute force it beef up your main fighter and keep support revivers like quan chi

[shut horizon]

No, battle modifiers dont get reflected only frostbite does

[deep isle]

Idk I usually don’t notice it

Yea that’s what I saw

I never saw Arctic Wind reflected

[clear tiger]

@fluid swallow This was your idea have you been lyin to me

[grim wing]

ah

[deep isle]

Weather Warfare can be reflected tho

[shut horizon]

gotta jump alt scorpy now

[woeful yarrow]

I suggested him a strat alr

[deep isle]

I should know, I had a fair share of 184

[woeful yarrow]

Not sure if he has all 3 characters tho

[clear tiger]

No I’m pretty sure it does get reflected, when I beat it the first time with geras there were moments where sub0 and I were just frozen together

[deep isle]

Gold or diamond

If diamond, the guy sent that pic

[woeful yarrow]

Sfs,kl raiden and kc sonya

Goat team for hard battles

At least for when battles were hard for me

[shut horizon]

that was weather warfare, equipment debuffs get deflected while battle modifiers like inferno and arctic wind dont

[deep isle]

Remind you that it took me two weeks to complete 184

[clear tiger]

Oh yeah you right

[shut horizon]

Me with tower of time on 47

[woeful yarrow]

Did you try this team?

[deep isle]

That was you getting Arctic Wind

[half pelican]

@clear tiger 💔 this guy noob keeps doing this thing even outside the field when he is inactive member of the team

[deep isle]

And you reflected his Weather Warfare effect

[woeful yarrow]

Js dots bro

[shut horizon]

yeah i did that

[deep isle]

I tried a dumb team

[woeful yarrow]

It's fine

[deep isle]

This team cut down my time from 2 weeks to 2 days

It still reflected Weather Warfare

Which was my showstopper

Can we bring back Kold Tower pls

I need that Ushanka

[clear tiger]

I mean with arctic wind you just gotta keep attacking so you get frozen in times where they can’t hit back

[deep isle]

This year

[clear tiger]

So geras still helps

[clear tiger]

I don’t quite understand

[woeful yarrow]

Don't think that's what you want from kt but still

Ww is there yk

[deep isle]

It gives Freeze resistance

[woeful yarrow]

And finka

[woeful yarrow]

At fx It's arguably the best gear in the game

They tag and get frozen and this not only cancels tag in attacks and leaves them frozen but you also hit them 4 times before they unfreeze

[half pelican]

I would record another proper one but f i ran out of retry limit today lmao

[clear tiger]

Rip 😭😭

[half pelican]

Fatal towers is just frustration

[deep isle]

I got it twice

Aiming for 3rd although running a bit tight

Ok btw guys

What’s the order of Klash equipment?

That I should get

I actually haven’t got any

[half pelican]

How old is your id?

For me it's 26 days old I made it to stage 169 I think it's decent I know I could do a lot better with decent gear but atleast I need more time it's a new id afterall

[deep isle]

June 20th, 2017

[half pelican]

That's the reason I struggle 💔

[half pelican]

Ggs

[deep isle]

But I came back to this game during the end of Tower of Time

[half pelican]

Still bro better situation then new id I just started playing the game but I am glad that I catch up with everything just cuz the game is very very slow

[fluid swallow]

What was

[clear tiger]

Geras for arctic wind

[fluid swallow]

No for sub

Arctic wind barely activates anyway

[fluid swallow]

Bcs you can freeze and frostbite him

[clear tiger]

[fluid swallow]

Arctic wind is too slow to be a good modifier😔

Just kill them before it activates🤗

[clear tiger]

Minor inconvenience

[lyric grove]

If you are using the "best character" then you shouldn't have any issues with any fight, that's all 🤷‍♂️

[calm sun]

Why was that cut off kinda funny 😂

[clear tiger]

bonk

Wtf mk11 scorp in both f100 and f180 of the same run

[unreal eagle]

Random drop

[fluid swallow]

L no raiden from it

[clear tiger]

You’re right if it were I would be playing the rest of my attempts with one hand

[fluid swallow]

🤔

[warm geyser]

Do SOMETHING Kenshi

[fluid swallow]

If I get mk11 scorp from F100 ill buy you a raiden bundle

[clear tiger]

[fluid swallow]

I don't think I can get to it today tho

So probably tomorrow if I can be bothered doing some attempts

[deep isle]

Random question, your most favorite arena?

[desert warren]

Don't think too much about it because disappointment is at the end I got a klassic goro