🥷-kameos

[carmine socket]

It's gonna just do damage

[gloomy glacier]

Makes characters like kl sonya and some mk11 characters not triggering crushing blow kinda useless

But it would be too op

[timid bough]

I feel like characters with no extra effects on a special should at least make it deal more damage

I havent tested of course but imo the top 3 rn are mk1 scorp, mk1 kenshi, and rav mileena

[gloomy glacier]

Yeah

[timid bough]

Cripple and snare

Death mark and speed

Mileena is really only about regen lol

But they are all 130% haste

[gloomy glacier]

Ive fought ravenous milliena kameo in krypt and I can confirm that the haste insane

Its like 21 seconds

Also mk1 millienas sp2 does not even trigger as a kameo

[timid bough]

Shao isnt bad 130% stun and team shield... but useless sp2

The worst has to be mk11 shang

Sp1 and xray have no effects, and his sp2 is vamp lmao

[gloomy glacier]

LMAO yeah

And the vamp is horrible since its kameo dmg

[timid bough]

Yep

Hes actually a 130 but... I dont think it saves it

[gloomy glacier]

Yeah no effects are kinda huge for kameos

I wonder if they’ll add kameo gear

[timid bough]

Oh man, actually BD kabal is really good too

Snare speed team power gen, and a 130

[gloomy glacier]

Ooh

[timid bough]

Pure offense setup

[ionic edge]

Oh he is? Whats the other 66% diamond

[timid bough]

Mk1 scorp and mk1 kenshi

[ionic edge]

Ahh didnt know that lol

Thanks

[gloomy glacier]

Kl reptile imo
is not bad

Im pretty sure its poison sp1 and sp2 and then team regen

130% Haste because his power regen is that aswell

[timid bough]

Team regen is definitely his selling point

I just dont like it as much because its 1 time use and conditional

I think id prefer sp2 regen even tho its not team

[gloomy glacier]

Yeah I hate how it is like that

But I mean it makes sense

[timid bough]

Oh yeah I mean, they at least realized if you could spam team effects itd be to much lol

[gloomy glacier]

One time use at a certain condition

Feel like team regen/ shield would be great for krypt but I dont see any thing else

[timid bough]

Lizard jade is snare and stun, only 110 tho

Xray being luck is also super meh

Id assume we will be using high fused golds way before high fused diamonds though, so lizard jade might be the go to gold

[timid bough]

Survival (lol)

[gloomy glacier]

Oh yeah but I def like krypt
more then survival thats for sure

[gloomy glacier]

If we’re thinking golds Kl smoke is a move too

Speed on sp1 and snare on sp2

I think his xray was blind though

[timid bough]

Yeah that's solid

Holy crap

I totally forgot about klassic shang

110, no sp1 sp3, and FEAR

Lmaooo

Ok thats gotta be the worst

[gloomy glacier]

Great card but a horrible kameo 😭

[timid bough]

SF cassie is a 100 with only sp3 power drain

Jeez man

[gloomy glacier]

I would probably crash out if that was my 10% diamond pull from the kameo pack

[timid bough]

I think shang is the only character in the game with no effect on sp3

[gloomy glacier]

And its tough because theres no feats of strength for kameos

Cant increase haste that way

[gloomy glacier]

Yeah probably

Vampiress milliena @timid bough

Sp1 and sp2 no effect

[timid bough]

Thank god, 150% is already pure pain

Ooh that's a good... or bad pick lol

Look if you want bad golds ok but seriously, SF cassie is the biggest loser being a 100 diamond

With just... uselessness

[gloomy glacier]

Oh god thats like 17 seconds ish

[gloomy glacier]

Yeah that is terrible

Kameo synergy when

[timid bough]

Id love little tag team synergies like uh... scorp highfives any sub kameo and they get a damage boost😂

[gloomy glacier]

😭 I was thinking more like

You have Kl rain, you use a kl kameo

And if the opponent is soaked maybe apply team effect that way

[timid bough]

Lol, actually that might work already

I mean it depends if the game sees it as him applying it

[upper meadow]

yea I do wonder if your main team can support kameo directly

[gloomy glacier]

Oop yeah

[upper meadow]

via class or team support

[gloomy glacier]

And how would uh

Kl liu kangs sp1 work..?

You get set on fire?

[timid bough]

Lul

Nah surely its a no effect

Lemme look

Oh man it does say fire

Does he set himself onfire if passives are diabled?

[gloomy glacier]

Well I think it sets the enemy on fire since it takes the sp1 effect

Removes the passive

[upper meadow]

yeah and then he takes dmg

however I did get hit by an enemy klk sp1 kameo

no fire on anything

[gloomy glacier]

Nah cause I can see some stragetic moves if it sets you on fire

Mk11 team with jade, dark raiden fire god lk

[upper meadow]

I know kameos are controversial and all rn but this really does open up a lot of fun discussion

[timid bough]

Lul

Self fire is kinda sick tho

[upper meadow]

certain characters become horrible, certain are great just cuz of their effects

[timid bough]

The hellfire blade synergy is crazyy

[upper meadow]

yea

[timid bough]

Its kinda sad because most of the "good kameos" are just also the good characters anyways

Like yeah theres some exceptions but

[gloomy glacier]

I can think of so many characters that have passives on their sps but have no use in kameos

[upper meadow]

the gold reptile kameos being more useful than some diamonds is hilarious

[timid bough]

They definitely feel kinda lazily designed

I wish they made like, 10-20 custom designs instead of spamming literally every gold and diamond

Ooh add kameos to krypt store too while were at it

[upper meadow]

literally just had that thought in my head after doing a krypt run

[gloomy glacier]

Good idea

[carmine socket]

They didnt need to make every character a kameo honestly

But i guess it's the most effective way of a cashgrab when trying to get good ones so i understand from devs side

[neon wigeon]

Vampirism kameo is good btw

It gives vampirism buff to the user

[gloomy glacier]

Oop

Thats 100% better

[neon wigeon]

Went against a kl movie sonya in the krypt earlier

[carmine socket]

Does MK11 shang give vampirism?

[upper meadow]

did you test that for mk11 shang or just movie sonya

[gloomy glacier]

Sp2

[upper meadow]

movie sonya is the only vampirism timed buff

all others are on hit

[carmine socket]

Yeah i know it's sp2 but it's a buff?

[carmine socket]

Oh okay that's weird

[neon wigeon]

Only faced movie sonya

[upper meadow]

probably just movie sonya

[carmine socket]

I wonder why they didnt make Kameo bar power dependant

Rn it feels like the unique ability (Joker, Sindel etc.)

Power Drain does nothing cripple does nothing to them it's weird

[gloomy glacier]

Only on the sp2 parry should it be powered base

I wouldnt wanna spend power for a weaker kameo sp1

Unless its like a DOT effect but thats in certain situations

[timid bough]

I mean, that is actually really weird lol

Klassic shang the worst then

[vagrant lance]

Wait, I thought the kameo is on cooldown. They are literally hittin me everytime I try to do combo enders and they are coming right after each other

[warm cedar]

I did unlock him and by the time he becomes available the battle is over already

[carmine socket]

Not character power but Kameo power

Like in MK1 Kameos have their own bar they dont use it besides a few exceptions

[timid bough]

It is, sp1/xray and sp2 have 2 seperate cooldown timers. So they can chain them

Sp1 is the portrait you can see, and sp2 cooldown is in the buff/debuff tray

[upper meadow]

I kinda hate that but at the same time it saves me in some matches

I can use sp1 kl sub kameo to deny their own kameo usage (or evasions) or sp2 to just cancel their own specials

now if I had kw sub I could punish even harder for the ai attempting to just play the game

[timid bough]

I actually kinda like the debate of using a special to bait their sp2 kameo, or just sticking to basics/xray to finish them off instead

And yeah stun effects also bypass

I really do think the biggest issue with kameos is ultimately how often were facing them, its fine as an occasional challenge but yeesh

Imagine if in a fatal tower EVERY single fight had the towers unique modifier

It would just simply be way to often and annoying, instead its an expected challenge at bosses and some specific fights along the way

[meager nexus]

Day 2 of waiting for kameos to be removed/reworked

[tall ferry]

Yes, we want the play the game for relax not for under pressure

[gloomy glacier]

I think we should be able to counter their sp2 kinda like a breaker in actual mk1 at the cost of our sp2 kameo

So its 50/50

Only like 1-3 times per match

[timid bough]

Ehh maybe... it sounds like your trying to just remove their impact from the game though

Which, I know alot of people are saying they want that right now, but it is not good long term, kameos are staying

[gilded lotus]

Remove kameos

Classic Scorpion and other char why are they now weaker ?

Or these channels are just for the eyes of the people

[timid bough]

They will not remove them theres no point saying it... and wym weaker?

[gilded lotus]

Just to write something

They got reworked

Hanzoa the same

[gloomy glacier]

Yeah thats the problem.. But think about it The only real way to counter them is to use ur sp1/sp2 from a far or get that one talent in the talent tree

[timid bough]

I havent seen any changes to them

[gloomy glacier]

Other wise ur special attack is just cancelled

[timid bough]

The counter is to stun/freeze the enemy or use xrays

[gloomy glacier]

That as well

But you cant deny the fact it makes matches wayy longer

In krypt esepically

Its a tedious game mode

[gilded lotus]

Hey guys

Efficient way to farm Krypt

Like before the update I could finish the hard Krypt

Now I'm getting smashed very easily

[timid bough]

I feel like hard krypt is probably about the same

Only bosses have kameos and you can use your own kameo every fight

[gilded lotus]

Not only the bosses ...some of the normal teams have kameos too

[timid bough]

Yeah but its the modifier right? So you dont have to deal with other ones, and you can reroll them

[gilded lotus]

True ..tho imma quit

This game was a ton of fun back in the days

Now like all of the games just a money making factory

[timid bough]

I dont get that logic at all

The only thing that happened is rewards got increased with difficulty

[outer tusk]

Adapt or yeah .. quit
If you can't handle something, the easiest way is to just .. leave

[arctic mantle]

i dont think players realize how helpful kameos will be when given enough time

i think helpful criticism for kameos is just that there are a lot of characters who are close to useless as kameos, for example characters with no buffs/debuffs

[round bolt]

Agreed, I’m loving them. They are a great disruptor given the right situation. They give you the ability to negate a special plus add a modifier into the fight that you don’t have access to. I have klassic Sub and his freeze is a great way to set up an SP2. I also got Spectral Ermac, pretty useless. But some I can see being very helpful

[arctic mantle]

i chose sub zero as well, i think people forget kameos allow for free xrays at no cost. and you even get the buff applied

do we know what the fusion x kameo cooldowns are

[outer tusk]

I don't think fusion matters for cooldown, you can check their stat (haste)

[arctic mantle]

ooooo okay

[outer tusk]

Wait it do matters lol
Highest for basic diamond are 130 and gold 120 (triborg)
For gold +2 haste per fusion

Dunno for diamond I haven't got any fusion yet lol

[timid bough]

Diamonds are 2 haste as well

So 150% is max possible

[timid bough]

"Kameos do no damage"

This 30k on crit is the bulk, the damage after is just a bonus. Its not like insane damage but cmon, its free

[arctic mantle]

oh the characters also do a hit?

thats a free sp1 basically

[neon wigeon]

Kameo noob doesn't deathmark on sp1 and sp2 lmao

Only on xray

L

[outer tusk]

Mk11 Noob with k2 is cool tho
Clone counter + kameos
3vs1

[timid bough]

Oof, wonder if its because of the icon bug

Also, I just realized DM on sp1 is not that good

Since when they are under 30% its xray...

[neon wigeon]

And terminator can avoid it lol

[opaque quartz]

They removed the death mark from base noob and made it part of his passive

[neon wigeon]

No

Lol

The passive has remained the same since he came out

[opaque quartz]

I don't think it's a bug, since now MK11 Noob applies the krushing blow and no longer his shadow

[neon wigeon]

They simply swapped those

[craggy perch]

really I need kameo with freeze / kameo with dispel / shield break on sp1 and nothing else

and speed (if we ever have a character with speed on sp3 / sp1)

[timid bough]

Klassic smoke?

[craggy perch]

9oh yeah i forgot him#

[misty hare]

i use kameo mk1 kenshi for death mark should i change him?

[carmine socket]

We should get kameo challenges.

As well as basic gold kameo packs

[whole sorrel]

Who’s the best gold kameo

[carmine socket]

Noxious reptile (any reptile works)

Sonya is also good cuz she gives shield

Lizard baraka is very good

Klassic jade is pretty good

[static pivot]

they never shoulda let ai get their cold metallic fingers onto kameos

oh and

kameos are just the wannabe ally attacks

i remember those days with the ally attacks

alliance points

i hatwifweupewbbgiu

ughgiuudsp

they just use the 1stk frickgin attack adn thengjip the frickin otghhuwir

im having a stroke

[midnight void]

Worth it?

[violet kite]

Nah

[prisma lodge]

no

[opaque quartz]

Are you asking in every channel?

[midnight void]

No

[violet kite]

Yes

[mild violet]

Anyone know how to do the kameo sp2? I’ve been trying for hours but can’t seem to get a perfect block though I thought it was.

[gloomy glacier]

Do you have sp2 unlocked for the kameo?

[mild violet]

Oh. Just unlocked it. Thanks for telling me

[gloomy glacier]

Np

The enemy will shine white when you’re able to counter just try to block it

[mild violet]

Oh wow that’s a cool feature

[carmine socket]

Gotta roll with this guy for now. Shield definitely helps

[midnight void]

Cop or drop?

[carmine socket]

Note: This is the ugliest ermac in all existence 💀

[timid bough]

Mk1 ermac without a mask:

[spring helm]

add micheal jackson

[fallow hazel]

Kameos kame to kamealon

[carmine socket]

True

[static spade]

The kameo broke my game

[opaque quartz]

Tag out

[carmine socket]

Apparently if your sp1 is rank 1 the team shield is sometimes on a long timer or it happens to be on a short timer.

[ornate lantern]

هاي

[valid pulsar]

@timid bough do you know why the notification thing on my kameos dont go away? (sorry for the ping)

[timid bough]

thats for everyone, sadly I havent seen a way to get rid of it

[valid pulsar]

ok ty

they just really want us to see the new kameos lmao

[tame locust]

I refuse to use them after seeing how they crap out the game.

[timid bough]

Unfortunately you either use them now or you'll suck at the game, yeah go ahead, waste precious Dragon Krystals (that are still hard to obtain regardless of any insignificant chance in krypt drops they made) and buy and upgrade them!!!,😍

[tame locust]

I use Krystals for Kaskets. The leveling up of Kameos is not cost efficient. Give it a year before they have fusion up cards for Kameos. Getting by in towers and Krypt with the Kollection of characters and equipment I've had for years for now.

[timid bough]

A year of Kameo infested krypt sureeeee 😍😍 my favorite

[tame locust]

Just use life and force stones. If you got 'em.

[timid bough]

And lower my goddamn my hearts?

Even though i've never had that problem before?

[tame locust]

I grinded runs for the week for Shang and the new Noob equipment. Good till they reset Wednesday.

Hearts are useless currency once the store is sold out on what you can buy.

[timid bough]

Yeah the problem is that dying is punished by no goddamn reason

[carmine socket]

My only problem is Kameos bug out the game so badly rn

[timid bough]

As if they didn't make the krypt so damn castrating and unplayable

[carmine socket]

I hate it

Also you take guranteed dmg cuz you can't cripple or power drain kameos abilities

[tame locust]

Yeah that part does suck. I'm going through the thousands of stones I never used. The patches they did on the recovery sc really broke the meta of the Krypt.

[timid bough]

Fr

[tame locust]

Mandatory resurrect gear or characters are necessary

[timid bough]

I remember being pummeled hard and the krypt used the Survival of The Fittest kard to heal me after the battle but now they fixed that

Literally no fun

No feeling of satisfaction

No nothing

Im not going to dump money on this game, and less i'll do it now

[tame locust]

They were both doubling up. SOTF and TF

In FW and Krypt, not anymore. Now Survival of the fittest is only for Survivor mode of FW as intended and Tenacious Fighter only for Krypt mode.

[carmine socket]

Lost the boss battle due to a bug from kameo

[tame locust]

Wack

[carmine socket]

I legit can't do anything and if i leave my whole team dies

[random ether]

hey all. whats the overall idea on the best cameo, classic subzero or classic scorpion?

i mean between those two

ok im sorry im late to the party...

[timid bough]

Sub and its not close

[random ether]

oh aight

so like, i dont even know how the mechanic works but like

wont klassic scorpion's spear pull the most wounded?

wouldnt it be useful

and classic sub zero's sp requires a bit too much skill

thats as far as i know

[neon wigeon]

Kameos have no passives

You go exclusively off the effects of their specials

Sub0 has freeze on sp1 and shield on xray

[quiet prism]

They're annoying

[verbal zenith]

So the AI just gets to arbitrary counter specials with kameos now? Really?!?!

[timid bough]

No, pay attention to cooldowns

Nothing is hidden from you

[verbal zenith]

Meh

[timid bough]

Or give up, I dno you choose

[verbal zenith]

The latter is looking very appealing right now. There are many other things I could be spending my time on.

I’ve taken breaks before.

[timid bough]

Its really not that bad

Its mainly featured in 1 mode, that got its rewards super juiced

Just learn how they work, and youll understand countering them better

[verbal zenith]

Don’t do that……..don’t give me hope. 🤣

[timid bough]

I promise you, you can do it lol

[arctic mantle]

I notice the most kameos in 3rd floor elder krypt

You can either use the talent tree kameo cooldown one or just spam X-rays I guess

[upper meadow]

sub is a damn lifesaver for this kinda thing

[timid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/xray-oprah-winfrey-you-get-an-xray-you-pointing-gif-16719176

Ugh non embed

Oh well

[upper meadow]

I can just use him to freeze and do whatever I want for one hit

[timid bough]

Theres honestly a surprising amount you can do about them once you understand it properly

[upper meadow]

also on like 90% of battles I can just

not do specials, and just do enders til I disable their kameo atk 2 with the talent

[timid bough]

But, I still think its FAR to common to be healthy

[verbal zenith]

WHAT?!?!

[timid bough]

You good? Lol

[verbal zenith]

Yeah I’m good now that I know where you sit, right on top of the fence.

[timid bough]

That I think they are good but flawed because they just came out? Yea

[brisk briar]

Delete kameos

[random ether]

tysm mate, @neon wigeon @timid bough

[ionic edge]

Lol of course my first kameo diamond is one of the worst you can pull 😂😂😂😂😂

[deep jay]

enjoy that 120 heal on vampirism

[ionic edge]

Hahahahahah 💀

[burnt canyon]

Are these kamios good?

[timid bough]

Oh noooo

[jade kayak]

Why is it the worst?

[timid bough]

No effect on sp1 or xray, and sp2 is vampirism but kameos have low damage

[jade kayak]

I wish kameos weren't done this way.

The reason kamoes are at least interesting in MK1 is because they are characters that didn't make it into the main roster but are still notable characters.

[ionic edge]

Lol atrocious

I’d sell him for half a dragon krystal

[timid bough]

They really want you to spend DK upgrading an ability that has no effect lmaoo

[jade kayak]

I'd sell him for the gold etching on the crystal.

[ionic edge]

Lmaoooo

[ionic edge]

Yeah I wish kameos were the non playable characters too

Like ferah and torr

[jade kayak]

Also they just need to be toned down.

Make kameos blockable.

[ionic edge]

My guess is theyll add fresh kameos one year

[ionic edge]

Yeah

The back to back is too much

[jade kayak]

Make Cripple and Power Drain affect the ability to perform kameos,

[deep jay]

of course, coming very soon in 2062

[ionic edge]

Like if they use 1 kameo

Should have a cooldown before they can use another

[drowsy ruin]

kameos ruined krypt

[timid bough]

Kameos made krypt the most fun mode in the game

[drowsy ruin]

how bro 💀

i love getting punished for hitting a special attack

[jade kayak]

I didn't really like Krypt to begin with.

I feel towers are already taking almost all my time.

[timid bough]

Im just joking

[jade kayak]

Tower equipments or the chance to get them aren't around forever.

Krypt, yes you can, but only 2 at a time every week.

[untold relic]

kameos who provide regen, shield or snare are the best

[subtle helm]

Watch them being 1 second only cuz u didnt upgrade special attack with dk

[worldly egret]

Keep kameos I love it

[arctic lichen]

Is there any kameo tier list

I heard reptile has amongst the best kameo

[gloomy linden]

Upgrading kameos skill with DK extends duration, right? Is it doing anything for power drain?

[spare wharf]

Kameo speical 2 counter enemy's skill. Really chill !

[carmine socket]

I think it's random lol

Cuz pharaoh Ermac (WORST LOOKING ERMAC EVER) gives team shield either for 0.5 sec or for 15 sec

[subtle helm]

Tf how

U sure ur not using varmint lucky hat or smth

[carmine socket]

No i swear im not

The duration is random or smth

Like sometimes it's very short or very long

[limber swan]

Ok so max kameo level is 30 hut whats the max level on their kameo attacks?

[carmine socket]

10

[spare wharf]

for real ?

[gloomy linden]

What for real?

upgrading skills with buffs increase their duration, afaik. Shield, regen, strenghten, freeze, bleed, stun etc. I was wondering if it increases power drain drain.

[deep jay]

it should

just like it increases freeze/stun/dot duration it should have a similar effect

[timid bough]

Barf

[gloomy linden]

Good, was buying packs till have sth with 3 decent effects, got movie johny, so i can stop for now

Its kinda sad that many diamond kameos arent in pack

[timid bough]

I miss the game it was before update 6.0.0

[gloomy linden]

Well only difference is in elder krypt tbh, and i will choose elder krypt with new drops and sh*tty kameos over old elder krypt.

[timid bough]

Fr?

[gloomy linden]

Already upgraded many rares, few epics, 1 diamond, so much more krypt eq drops.

[timid bough]

You like wasting at least one SP and getting it countered on EVERY Kameo Battle (which is like 90%) ?

[gloomy linden]

I like new drops, i think that counter mech is dumb and punishing, but i can play around it.

[timid bough]

I hate kameos MK11 Jade, MK1 Scorpion and MK1 Shang Tsung

Unblockable Snare?

Fvck that

[arctic mantle]

debuff resistance/reflect

[little basalt]

The kameos wasting your power is bs

[gloomy linden]

Shields, debuff resists, resurect consumables. I dont like it, but i choose new elder over old any day.

[timid bough]

How's your loadout? I would love to know, im intrigued actually ✨✨✨

Is the FX Viper Hood any good? Im saving my rare fusion ups for that one i got F9

[arctic mantle]

im xray cheesing bcuz i have low tower gear

kl reptile mournful kitana and mk11 scorp with burn gear

and soem shield gear

[gloomy linden]

Also new support talent, ureliable and frustrating, but still helps a ton. Aaaand they messed it badly with debuff icon showing with big delay after combo ender...

Still i can always take first counter with shield on tag, sp1, then im free to unload bars for 30s+. Usually. AI wont counter sometimes, that is making me angry so often... xD

[olive steeple]

Y'all should do the action when I use fatal blow/x-ray , the kameo should hit the enemy with something/his own power and then my character doing the fatal blow

[timid bough]

you know only 1 diamond is pain but, better than the guy who got shang lol

[neon wigeon]

Well, Shang better lmao

[timid bough]

nah

[neon wigeon]

Both have no effects on specials

At least vampirism Vs deathmark on sp2

[timid bough]

vamp isnt the buff vamp

damage vamp

so... enjoy that 2k heal lol

[verbal zenith]

Meh

[light kelp]

The kameo is not balanced, it is supposed to come out when it is charged, but it comes out when you do a special attack and it takes away your energy bar, It practically eliminates your power bar (1 or 2) and nullifies your power, that's wrong 😡

[timid bough]

it does come out when its charged, they have 2 abilities not 1

[light kelp]

you're wrong, have you played???

[neon wigeon]

@light kelp

[timid bough]

have you?

because I took the time to learn how they work

[neon wigeon]

Or even just read the guide

Which very clearly explains how they have 2 different cooldowns

[limber swan]

whats the max level for kameo attack?

[light kelp]

It is at 15 charge time (kameo), I do a special attack (1 or 2), and the kameo enters, it does a combo or special (any) and takes away the spent energy

[timid bough]

10

[neon wigeon]

That's because the counter attack is a DIFFERENT cooldown

[limber swan]

and whats the cost total?

[timid bough]

depends if your leveling gold or diamond

[limber swan]

it does?

[timid bough]

and also which ability

[light kelp]

Is it also for us? Will our kameo also come out when the opponent wants to do a special attack (regardless of the charge time?)

and will remove the energy bar used?

[neon wigeon]

Yes

It's the sp2 attack

You can counter the enemy yourself the same say they counter you

Again read the guide

[light kelp]

but it can't be used in the kript, that's so $($-#+$(+( !!

[timid bough]

yes it can

ffs

the AI uses kameos exactly the same way you can

theirs is just higher fusion

read the guide.

[neon wigeon]

Bro doesn't have sp2 unlocked just watch lmao

Didn't upgrade his kameo

[timid bough]

oh I just know it

[limber swan]

probably

[fallow hazel]

Allat channel

But I respect the ppl who tryna help the beginners about the kameos

[trim kettle]

my luck is horrible

[limber swan]

eh. kl sonya is better than nothing

[timid bough]

I think sonya is solid

[limber swan]

sheild break on offense, slow on defense

[timid bough]

And shield xray

[limber swan]

yea. solid one

[timid bough]

And

[limber swan]

unlike mine which i have sketor and kcjc

[timid bough]

A 110%

I mean, honestly like top 10 gold minimum if not higher

[limber swan]

as a kameo?

[timid bough]

Yea

[limber swan]

idk

kcjc does more damage but sektor is faster

[timid bough]

I mean shes good normal too lol but kameo side thats good

Well I said top 10 not 1 lol

[limber swan]

yea

but pd makes the difference

[jade kayak]

What are ways to play against Kameos?

[timid bough]

Itll be awhile before I iron out a true list but that feels good to me

Better than my kold scorp lol

[limber swan]

from what i found out. spawnsers passive is a really strong counter against kameos

[jade kayak]

I still feel Klassic Sub Zero is top 10 for Kameos just for having Freeze on his Special 1 alone.

[timid bough]

Xrays, stuns/freezes not from specials like from abilties or your own kameo, sometimes just basic spam is fine...

[limber swan]

kw sub easily overshadows him

[timid bough]

Theres some good kameos but im not wasting DK gambling for them

[limber swan]

im saving up dks for more kameo packs or batman who laughs pack

[timid bough]

I would say ultimately its better to focusxon a gold kameo because fusing diamonds is probably gonna be a nightmare for some time

[jade kayak]

What would you change about Kameos?

[limber swan]

probably the way they could trigger

[timid bough]

-easier to acquire
-make them their own modifier
-faster animations
-give all kameos 3 abilties

[limber swan]

also making sure that the kameo modifier actually shows who the kameo is plus sticking to said kameo alone and not randomize it

[timid bough]

Well its actually random

If you redo the fight the kameo changes

[limber swan]

yea, as if that wasnt obvs enough but its still hard af

literally in the batman who laughs boss ive fought they had DF arnold as kameo

[jade kayak]

What about how the AI uses Kameos?

[timid bough]

They use it no different than the AI using other things

As soon as its useable

[limber swan]

yea

[timid bough]

That makes it highly predictable, which imo is good

[limber swan]

now im krypt mk11 boss team with a random kameo

[timid bough]

Yeah it can be hard but its not like you dont see it coming

[limber swan]

to the surprise of no one: kameo is mk11 sindel

[jade kayak]

I mean like the cooldowns and how they insta-parry you.

And have priority over your Special attacks.

[timid bough]

They dont do anything you cant

[jade kayak]

Maybe I'm just not playing right, I don't know.

[timid bough]

The only difference is their cooldowns are shorter

But everything they actually have the kameos do is 100% replicable

[limber swan]

i think also fusions reduce the cooldowns

[timid bough]

Yes, fusions give 2% haste

[limber swan]

only 2%?

thats ass

[timid bough]

Well, x10

20% at max

[limber swan]

so fx will have 120% and others would have 140%

[timid bough]

150% is bad enough to deal with from 130% base diamonds

[jade kayak]

So what should I be doing to not have two characters wiped in a Krypt battle?

[limber swan]

yes

dont let them die

[timid bough]

Use shield, stop using specials when they can counter them

[jade kayak]

So wait for their Kameo or?

[timid bough]

Its 2 cooldowns

They are gonna use their sp1 pretty fast

But you can do multiple things to bypass their counter specials

The talent, xrays, basics, abilities, DoTs tag in attacks all cant be countered

If you freeze/stun with your own kameo you can use a special too

[limber swan]

or stun them with your characters passive

[timid bough]

If you do a scorp stun loop before cooldown ends you can keep that going too

Theres like 10 seconds at the start before they can use kameos at all

[jade kayak]

Does Cripple not prevent Kameo usage?

[limber swan]

sadly no

[jade kayak]

I feel Cripple should.

Power Drain could maybe add time to the cooldown,

[limber swan]

it stops them from comboing you to oblivion but it doesnt stop the defense kameo

[timid bough]

Meh, I dont think they need a ton of extra counter play, they just need frequency tuned and not let them stack with battle modifiers

[limber swan]

true

just a simple counter kick and leave wouldve been enough as defensive

[timid bough]

If you see them as their own modifier then... its kinda hard but not even the worst one imo

[jade kayak]

Should they be restricted in the Krypt to boss battles at the end of each floor?

[timid bough]

That's what it is on hard

[limber swan]

and elder

[jade kayak]

Elder puts them in most Silver difficulty battles.

[timid bough]

No elder is every hard battle and boss

Especially on 3rd floor

[limber swan]

but hard also has kameo fights outside of bosses

[timid bough]

Hard difficulty is only bosses unless it rolls kameo modifier

Which... is exactly how I want it lol

[limber swan]

yea no thats a lie. because it rolls double modifiers then

[timid bough]

But elder is to OP not to grinf

[limber swan]

hard can roll double modifiers because of kameo

but the kameos arent as hard

[jade kayak]

I wish they could up the minimum hearts gained.

1710-3300 for 2x Elder runs is misleading in my opinion.

[limber swan]

not like elder which every kameo is 100% diamond

[jade kayak]

Rarely do I get over 2k hearts.

[timid bough]

Did you play when krypt first came?

[jade kayak]

No.

[limber swan]

same sadly

[timid bough]

Elder was 4 floors and 1500 hearts if you were lucky...

[jade kayak]

Does 3 Hard or 2 Elder runs get more hearts?

Since both are 6 floors.

[timid bough]

~Same amount

[limber swan]

ouch

[timid bough]

The difficulty doesnt charge heart drops much at all

Even on normal, ~700 per floor is the norm

[jade kayak]

I only get around 500-600 per Elder floor.

And I feel that is way too low.

[timid bough]

Are you full clearing?

[jade kayak]

Yes.

What even needs to happen for a 3k run?

[limber swan]

per elder floor i get around 500~750, depends if im lucky and if no one died

[jade kayak]

All purple tombstones?

[timid bough]

3k is impossible

But you should get ~2100 on full clear

[limber swan]

my best was almost 2500 hearts but no where close to 3k

[jade kayak]

I feel they should raise the floor.

[timid bough]

The highest ive seen was 2876

No one has broken 3k as far as I know

[limber swan]

damn

how'd you get so many hearts?

[timid bough]

Its just pure luck

That 3100 or whatever they claim is literally the statistical max, its odds are probably beyond human theory

[jade kayak]

Would it be dumb if any character sellbacks you get you have the option to convert them to a Kameo card instead?

[timid bough]

I think thatd be to easy tbh

[limber swan]

i thought about that idea and it would be much easier to get

[jade kayak]

Maybe it only triggers on enough sellbacks?

[timid bough]

I dno, it punishs new players and veterans could easily farm it

[jade kayak]

Like every 10th sellback of a certain character gets converted to a Kameo card?

[timid bough]

I wanted fusion cards to be like that tbh

Rarity sellback? Becomes a fusion card

[jade kayak]

Or make Kameos obtainable in the Krypt?

[limber swan]

that would be too op

or atleast make them sellable in store

[jade kayak]

I was thinking maybe there is a chance when crossing a node that you will encounter a special fight that has a Kameo challenger, and winning the fight gets you that Kameo.

[arctic mantle]

they will definitely add more ways to get kameos, maybe a 3rd drop from tower 200 that was a kameo drop or a krypt store kameo slot or something

[gilded lotus]

God damnit I could barely do hard Krypt now it's even more harder with Kameos

Unnisntalling

[arctic mantle]

dont give up 💔

[gilded lotus]

No more

Devs ruined a very cool game

[timid bough]

Nothing says ruined like a skill issue

[umbral blade]

scorpion or sub-zero
which kameo is better

[timid bough]

Unfortunately, no one here either agrees with that opinion and most will tell you to eat it up and hush. NRS wont change sh!t, worst game company ever.

[umbral blade]

or which character

[arctic mantle]

if youre talking about which kameo pack to choose i think most people would agree kl sub

[umbral blade]

ok

yeah this one

[arctic mantle]

yeah the blue guy

[umbral blade]

ok

[arctic mantle]

its best to look at the buffs/debuffs of the kameos you plan to use

[timid bough]

#🏯-towers-relic-hunt message
Nothing says "skill" like swiping a credit card, right?

[timid bough]

Ive spend about 10 a month on this game so... if that's to much for you then sorry to hear

Not just that, they want you to upgrade them with Dragon Krystals

[light kelp]

They realized that we could get the Dragon badge at S level from time to time, but they had the brilliant idea of putting the kameos, only that it cannot be used in the krypt, Kameos should also be used in the kript, not just the opponent, there is an imbalance in the game there

[arctic mantle]

wait am i misunderstanding

[timid bough]

Thank you for showing us how to get skillful at the game, very cool ✨

[arctic mantle]

are you saying you cant use kameos in the krypt or no

[timid bough]

Your welcome, you should try getting a job you might afford it too 🙂

[light kelp]

That's true, I don't want to use those Dragon Krystals too much, because they only give you 45 a day, before it was 30, it should be infinite if they want one to use the Dragon Krystals,How many Dragon Krystals have I lost because I reached the limit, if it was infinite to obtain Dragon Krystals, now I would have more than 10k or 15k

[timid bough]

Theres a pretty clear reason why its not infinite and you just described it lol

I can't even leave the game i have a nice kollection going

People would have thousands

[light kelp]

Of course, you haven't played the kript? You can't use it, only the opponent, and it takes away a lot of your life, it makes you special, it takes away your special attack bar, when you want to do one,It eliminates your Special attack and does a combo or special attack, that's not right

[arctic mantle]

thats weird because im doing it rn wanna see my rewards

your game is bugging if your kameos arent working

[light kelp]

You want me to use my Dragon Krystals to get the Dragon Badge at level S? You have infinite the collection of Dragon Krystals, don't put limits on it, that's what I would tell those at the company.

[timid bough]

Honestly, they want money from you. Fvck how you feel playing the game, who cares if you enjoy playing it? Buy our packs 🤑🤑🤑🤑

[light kelp]

There are no kameos and the opponent uses kameos

I don't understand

[arctic mantle]

dude somethings gotta be wrong on your end i use kameos all day on krypt runs, every game besides the single modifier that disables it rarely

[timid bough]

You can use it.

Why does everyone insist on failure to learn before complaining

[timid bough]

You cant change teams once you start, equip a kameo before you enter krypt...

And the modifier is right there for the opponent

The modifier gives a random kameo

[light kelp]

It doesn't say anything about the kameos in the Kript

[light kelp]

I agree with you, something is wrong.

I will have to go and make a complaint to customer service.

#facepalm

And just in case, I activated the kameo

I can only use it in the towers

But not in the Kript

[light kelp]

LoL, put up a notice

[hollow sedge]

The modif of the battle titled Kameo allow to them to use a random Kameo

[timid bough]

You can literally use kameos in every single fight in the game except FW

[light kelp]

I've already started the game, they should put up a sign: "Do you want to use a help modifier or kameos?"

[timid bough]

And that's only from a temp removal

[light kelp]

It's already been

[timid bough]

@light kelp end your krypt run, edit your team with the kameo, you can use it

You cant change teams during the run

Your kameo is part of your team

[light kelp]

Go to the +#+#)+ !!!

-@)-2)-@)$)&)

+@)-($;;!!!

[arctic mantle]

You good

[timid bough]

My man is blind

[light kelp]

🤯

🥴

[timid bough]

@light kelp record a video of you equipping a kameo then being unable to use in in krypt and ill believe you

[light kelp]

I was doing the traditional, the common, and now they come out with this

[arctic mantle]

Bro just typing now fr

[light kelp]

#facepalm

[timid bough]

Do you guys juat prefer they never change a 10 year old game because I dont

[arctic mantle]

There will be improvements to kameos over time 😀 as well as more accessible ways to acquire the useful ones

[light kelp]

They just have to write it, even if it is in the glossary.

[timid bough]

I can agree the kameo tutorial is severely lacking

[light kelp]

"They can also use a kameo in the Kript, towers, not in FW (for now)

[timid bough]

Well FW was because of the ios bug

[light kelp]

And that's all

[pulsar agate]

Kameos in the krypt are annoying

[timid bough]

On ios, if your opponent has a kameo in FW it crashes your game

So they disabled them there

[light kelp]

Now, I have to finish the game, and start again, now with the kameo

[hollow sedge]

Kameo is mid when u use it.

U have to accept it.

[timid bough]

Unless your a completionist, its really not that deep

[pulsar agate]

But when the computer uses it 😂

[hollow sedge]

I use vampirism and not even sp to speedrun elder krypt

I have 2 monsters who spam basic and one ready to resurrect them just in case.

[pulsar agate]

I only do hard krypts since elder is too hard

[hollow sedge]

Is fine.

[pulsar agate]

Elder was easy when there was no kameos

[hollow sedge]

Floor 3 is a lil tricky

[pulsar agate]

I try to one day for the dragon crystals

The elder

[timid bough]

I always felt like elder was to easy anyways

[hollow sedge]

The only place where i have to use Regeneration instead of vampirism is floor 3 bosses

I cant floor 3 bosses with vampirism

I have to tag to much in and out and regen worth more.

I need motivation to do fw

I keep skipping

[timid bough]

It shoulda been updated a year ago

[hollow sedge]

I prefer to stay in krypt 4h for getting something guaranteed rather than playing 3d for a challenge gold

Thats why my Noob is the weakest among Mk guys.

[timid bough]

I wish theyd create new gear to buy

And maybe make the shop rotating like krypt

[hollow sedge]

I wish Noob to be a tower reward

I mean at f200

[timid bough]

I think noob can random drop from 100?

[hollow sedge]

Not random..

[timid bough]

Hmm

[hollow sedge]

I mean ik he can but i want him as a prize.

[timid bough]

I swear he had some other source at one point

[hollow sedge]

Atm is very bad

[timid bough]

I dno, ive had him maxed awhile now

[hollow sedge]

I mean 3d for a 7 chance max?

Seem kinda lame

[timid bough]

And FW store bought out...

[hollow sedge]

I saw your video on fw.

[timid bough]

Yeah, its basically impossible to get legend, and even then its what 20%?

[hollow sedge]

Still low chance..

[timid bough]

Yeah terrible lol

[hollow sedge]

On fw rn i can do like 2 teams elder atm

[timid bough]

Oh the klassics?

[hollow sedge]

Yeah,if i tried that i would had get bone shields

I got once 10 bone shield in a game

[timid bough]

Lol, yeah bone shield and revenant is annoying

[opaque quartz]

Bone shield and revenant ☺️

[timid bough]

Is anyone using Bone Shield and Revenant with this new Krapt? I mean, krypt ✨

[carmine socket]

Yes because of kameos with Goro where i literally cannot avoid their specials

[light kelp]

Can someone tell me how -#(-()$ !!!!! can I activate the kameo in the kript?

[light kelp]

where is that about editing the team with the kameo?

where??

[carmine socket]

You need to do it in the towers tab

It saves

[vagrant lance]

Like literally WTF! EVERY SINGLE special attack brings out a kameo. Even with block breaker attacks. You cant even play the game. They are not on cool down for the opponent and its very annoying. Not even worth playing

Even when I use Jokers juice, Freakin Kameo comes out. Its un real

[native abyss]

Best Update

[neon wigeon]

Hmmmm

Better than noob i guess

Rip no effect sp1

[timid bough]

Theres literally a kameo button under your equipped characters

[vagrant lance]

where can we submit a complaint if we have a problem with the game? I mean not even playable If I cant even do a special attack without being inturrputed by a kameo EVERY time

[timid bough]

#Skill-issue

[lone kiln]

Use your kameo to make them stay still by frozing and only after use sp's or just use xrays, kameos can't block xrays

[neon wigeon]

You see the yellow icon that appears next to the buffs/debuffs after they parry a special? That's the parry cooldown

If you use your specials while they're on cooldown they won't be able to parry you

[vagrant lance]

thanks

[neon wigeon]

Mkm players never beating the not reading allegations

[timid bough]

Star learning a new character and failing to properly read their passive every update is peak

[lone kiln]

Do their cd will start only after they parry, or there is some methods to to turn them off temporarily?

[neon wigeon]

I mean guess they have to be learning from someone right?

[timid bough]

"Why isnt mk1 mileena healing herself???"

[neon wigeon]

If the character is stunned/frozen they can't use the parry

[lone kiln]

No, I mean their cd

[neon wigeon]

Otherwise there's also a talent in the support tree to increase the cooldown but it's quite mid

[timid bough]

Theres a talent to disable the sp2 parry, but maxed out its only 50% on combo ender and 7 seconds

Its not great but if your desperate its there

[lone kiln]

So, no methods other than these two

[neon wigeon]

Real ones just parry back

[lone kiln]

Welp, thanks

[timid bough]

Only other options are to not use specials, or use xray

[calm helm]

tell himmmmmmmm

[dull gorge]

What kameo is better?
Sub zero classic
Scorpion classic ?

[deep jay]

sub zero

passives dont work on kameos

[jade kayak]

Is that when the circle is filling with a yellow bar or when the icon is visible with the yellow border?

[upper meadow]

icon with yellow circle on the status bar = sp2 parry cooldown
actual character icon right by character portrait = sp1/sp3 cooldown

[jade kayak]

So if the circle is lit up fully, they can parry?

[upper meadow]

if they don't have the icon on the status bar

the circle with the kameo picture is separate

[jade kayak]

Could you show pictures of each one just so I can understand?

[pulsar agate]

the yellow circle thing

at the top where the debuffs are

[jade kayak]

So what should I do when they can use their parry?

[upper meadow]

it’s literally this, the left where the character icon is, that’s the regular kameo attack cooldown

the right where you see that icon with a yellow circle, is the kameo attack 2 cooldown (sp2 parry)

if the thing on the right doesn’t appear then the cooldown is finished

[upper meadow]

the only way to bypass the counter is to stun/freeze the opponent and then do your special, or use an xray which they cannot counter with kameos

otherwise, just use up a special so they “waste” their parry and then you can do an actual special later before the cooldown hits

[verbal zenith]

Ugh. Kameo meta is 🤮

[amber bane]

Fortunately the Binding Blow talent makes Kameo battles a breeze

[primal saffron]

Is there a way to cancel out, counter or stop the Kameo Counter Attack in any way? Or do I have to bait it out by wasting specials?

[amber bane]

In the support section of the talent tree there is a talent called “Binding Blow” it forces Kameo attack 2 cooldown on Combo Enders for 7 seconds. So if you do a special after a Combo Ender, they can’t parry and counter attack you

It makes fighting enemy Kameos a joke, they can’t do anything

While you can still reap the rewards of your Kameo

[primal saffron]

Thanks because so far the Krypt has been one giant headache because of Kameos.

Any reason why the enemy kameo's reset in 20 seconds but mine is 40 seconds?

[primal saffron]

Damn, just found it in the talent tree. I have to rebuild my whole tree from scratch to use it.

[warm cedar]

xray or stun on non specials

[arctic mantle]

i did not know that

what gear does that?

or i could just use mk11 raiden i guess

[warm cedar]

mk11 raiden, bounty hunter erron for his assist

[arctic mantle]

black dragon erron right

does that work for outworld only o no

oh kabal too

[warm cedar]

his assist works on anyone

[arctic mantle]

W

[warm cedar]

in the bd team he also performs his assist after some time

not just on his tag out/opponent's tag in

[arctic mantle]

w thanks

[outer tusk]

Probably maxed

[neon wigeon]

Yeah maxed diamond kameos have 150% haste

[primal saffron]

Does freeze also work?

[neon wigeon]

Yes

[timid bough]

I think it depends on the character no?

[neon wigeon]

Yeah

Fusions are +2% haste each, so if a character has 130% base they're gonna have 150 at fx

[timid bough]

Interesting, i only have a diamond one at f0 so it's still at 130% rn

[prisma lodge]

ooooh i see

[blissful anchor]

feel like only klassic s0 and cos s0 are the only good ones

kl has freeze sp1 team shield sp3

and cos has freeze on sp1 and sp2 iirc

or thats kold s0

whichever

the freeze sp's and counter attacks are insanely good

[neon wigeon]

MK1 kenshi

[blissful anchor]

what he do

[neon wigeon]

Deathmark on sp1, speed on sp2

[blissful anchor]

damn that's good

[timid bough]

Anything happens:

Mk1 kenshi

[neon wigeon]

The goat

[upper meadow]

still hopefully trying to get him and bd kabal

but for now kameo summon is a good way for me to spend DKs opening stuff with no “waste” of sellbacks when limit is full

[jade kayak]

Klassic Smoke is also appealing with Speed on SP1 and Snare on SP2.

[merry pewter]

I’ve been using sfs kameo and he’s decent too

Stun + regen is nice

[limber swan]

hes better as a character rather than kameo

[merry pewter]

Oh most definitely

Just saying he’s not bad as a kameo either

[limber swan]

maybe

i'd say i hope to get bd kano as kameo

for funny full bd team

[outer tusk]

Not every, cuz I have some diamond with 100 base 🗿

[limber swan]

which

[merry pewter]

Yeah he’s fun too. I was lucky enough to pull him as well

[eternal summit]

What krypt were u trying mate

[blissful anchor]

#🪦-the-krypt

[neon wigeon]

#announcements

[viral ruin]

Does evasion work against kameos sp?

[neon wigeon]

No

[light kelp]

that they put a light or something that stands out, it seems as if it were hidden

[fallow swallow]

When ai counters my Noob, his shadow appears and throw death mark 🫤 I like the bug so don’t fix please

[outer tusk]

the fastest K2 in history

[warm cedar]

lmao

[timid bough]

LOL

[pine mountain]

So dumb lol what a stupid bug

[deep jay]

bro got embarassed and ran away

[prisma lodge]

lol i saw the same thing but with the new mileena lmao

[tardy nimbus]

Guys, best strategies to avoid getting kameoed?

[prisma lodge]

big distance between you and enemy

[latent linden]

Thank goodness

Hopefully the kameo Special attacks cost coins instead of dragon crystals

[unborn minnow]

What are kameod

Should i get scorpion or subzero classic for kameo

[latent linden]

Go for sub-zero

[subtle helm]

Theres a new talent tree that prevents them from parrying u

[outer tusk]

How about I add some black magic?

[prisma lodge]

oh no way

that's funny

[frank storm]

lol

[prisma rapids]

Why does t special attack two ever work but when ever I use a special once against a team that has one I lose all my meter and half my health

I block perfectly I'm sure

[prisma rapids]

How did you get the indicator how when to block???

[outer tusk]

Did you upgrade k2 skill? It's free for lv1

[prisma rapids]

I don't think I did let me check

Oh my gosh thank you so much, very frustrating to deal without it

[timid bough]

@craggy perch in your video about the kameo fixes, you mentioned theyll improve upgrading kameos so stop opening the pack, but I think they mean upgrading the abilities, as in it costs less DK to do so

[gusty field]

I think they should give option to upgrade it via coins as well

[neon wigeon]

Yeah that's it lol

Upgrades with coins instead of dks

[timid bough]

I mean, more ways to get them will come but... definitely not this early lol

[craggy perch]

we will find out soon

[timid bough]

Im assuming no but did they give you any eta on when this patch is coming?

[craggy perch]

no

[neon wigeon]

I assume next week

[neon wigeon]

EB kitana kameo

Hmmmm

Powerdrain, blind, and silence on counter

120 base haste

Yeah i'm using her lmao

One of the best golds to have as kameo

[craggy perch]

smoke kl

speed

op

[neon wigeon]

Yeah but I mean only other with silence on specials is onslaught Jax so lol

Also smoke only has 100 haste

[gusty field]

I m not upgrading with dk s I will wait till coins comes as means of upgrade I have 165 million by the way😂😂😂

I m reach in mkm m I not?

[timid bough]

Onslaught jax misses his sp2 btw

[neon wigeon]

Kitana on top lol

[timid bough]

Incredible game testing they did

[outer tusk]

Remove kameo

[carmine socket]

Kabal got sharted on since the release of Kameos

His tagins just do not work

[valid pulsar]

i dislike how long kabals stun is

[mild fulcrum]

Wth is with kameos on the ai team being able to attack when it’s on cooldown?

Kameo sucks

[upper meadow]

did you get hit by their sp2 counter

cuz the sp2 counter and sp1/sp3 attack are separate cooldowns

[mild fulcrum]

Ok

Maybe

But I don’t see the good in kamoes, it’s cool when it can save you but not worth it if it’s in krypt

It’s getting hella annoying

[upper meadow]

you have the talent in support to disable their sp2 counter right?

their regular kameo attack there is basically not much to do other than don’t let them get any frame advantage, but the sp2 counter has some workarounds

[timid bough]

They are getting nerfed for the AI and becoming less common to face soon

[prisma lodge]

oooh maybe...

[prisma lodge]

yeah i find that pretty solid

[mild fulcrum]

Oh, didnt know

[static pivot]

idk where else to post this but since its related to kameos ima post it here

BUT FINALLY BRO

NEVER SHOULDA LET AI COOK WITH THESE KAMEOS

[sterile wave]

"Kameos are so peak"
Kameos:

[flint citrus]

What is the kameo for?

[sterile wave]

Annoy us basically

[flint citrus]

I was wondering what a kameo was because I have one but I don't know how to use it.

[sterile wave]

You can equip it when editing your team

Under the team there is an arrow that says kameo

You can equip em there

[flint citrus]

But do I have to have the character?

[sterile wave]

well you got one so

you can equip that one

kameos are separate from your main kollection

[flint citrus]

Ok thanks

[midnight void]

Can someone answer me in #🗡-kollection with

[static pivot]

literally i hate kameos

i hate it so much when they counter your special attack like wthh

[tepid lance]

108,900 is the number, I'll let you guess what it is.

[mossy wharf]

Ye

Worst dev idea yet

Whole things a waste of dragon crystals

And it makes any deck op if u have the better cameos

Team 30% heal on command for free any time the enemy is low is stupid

[gloomy glacier]

Am i tripping out raiden came down like batman 😭

[rugged ember]

Kameos are more valuable than tower equipment after a certain point.

[gloomy mantle]

Agreed! 💯%

[rugged ember]

I’ve been messing around with them and it’s becoming increasingly evident they become more valuable than tower equipment, but only after a certain point. I would say maybe once your epic equipments are like F3.

But I need to do some more testing with a maxed out Kameo. I opened one Kameo pack and pulled Black Dragon Tremor. Even at F0 his stun of special 1 is so damn useful. It makes combo setups easier and when the AI is stunned/frozen, they can’t trigger a lot of their annoying passives.

[upper meadow]

nah u aint, some characters got a weird ass animation for entering

terminator does that too

[gloomy mantle]

Kameo seems to be very useful at higher fusion once their cooldown is low it's very good.......

[timid bough]

Imagine if they introduced a reversal where you need to input the combination on screen in a window of 2.4s so you can avoid the kameo SP1

oops sorry, did i say that too loud?

Yeah but not 2.5 or 2.3 seconds thatd ruin it

Then less or more time to act?

Im just joking, I dno its just be fine tuning, I dont think they wanna make kameos harder to use though

I wish they were

I just want a workaround for their SP1 that is inevitable, at least the counter you either go full support Talent Tree or just freeze them with your kameo or tank the counter and dispel

Well, they are buffing the talent somehow

We'll see how its changed

"they end up nerfing it"

Yall gotta chill on the negativity train

Im just jokin but its NRS after all, so it may happen

[static kelp]

Why does the Smog robot have frequent missed attacks?

[timid bough]

Because they decided to do 0 testing

[mossy wharf]

Kameos are so clunky it ruins the game

I’m not the only one saying this a lot of other ppl are this is the majority opinion

[opaque quartz]

Kameo Sp1 effect

If you don't find your own then they doesn't have any effect

BD Tremor: tbc if Stun or Fire

[static pivot]

bro was like "Hello chat"

[upper meadow]

kenshi being the only dm sp1 is so weird

[opaque quartz]

idk why the devs put dm on Noob Saibots as part of the passive

[upper meadow]

yea they made that change this update

so no dm icon

on mk11 or liz

[timid bough]

Is it confirmed for kameos its not just a visual bug?

I havent actually seen their kameo used

[opaque quartz]

In Noob's special, the icon for sp1 is the regular skull, not death mark icon

So I assume kameos only does regular sp1 without DM

[timid bough]

Yes, but thats also true on non kameo noob and he does apply it

Passives that give effects still show ingame

[opaque quartz]

even for kameos?

[timid bough]

Well I dno thats the question lol

[opaque quartz]

Yes your Noob Saibot is applying death mark because his passive says it so

[timid bough]

No

It had the icon until this update

[opaque quartz]

I know

Now it's changed

to be part of the passive

[timid bough]

We dno that

[opaque quartz]

on Both Noob Saibots they did it

I'd understand if Only MK11 or Lizard were bugged

[timid bough]

Until the kameo is proved to not have it... im saying its possible lol

[opaque quartz]

Kameo doesn't have a passive tho

[timid bough]

My claim is the passive doesnt give it.

Visual bugs arent uncommon

[opaque quartz]

Then why the new text on Noob Saibot's passive

[floral apex]

Any one else noticed that you can't... Ok you can. But do you know that the scorpion kameo is umm. Ok I just forgot what I wanted to say. But just know that you can always hjjfjjiv

[south abyss]

Who’s better scorpion or sub zero kameo?

[remote rock]

I started hating stun-type kameos

[timid bough]

Sub

[south abyss]

Thanks

[drowsy ruin]

sub is way better

[jade kayak]

I feel Klassic Smoke would be my preferred Kameo.

Speed on 1, Snare on 2.

[rugged ember]

BD Tremor is top tier kameo too. Stun on SP1. Fear on SP2. Team shield on Xray.

[whole sorrel]

Reptile deadass might be the best kameo

Regeneration on X-ray is op

N poison on top of that

[steep sequoia]

Hi guys, do you just keep buying kameos after you've leveled them all to 30? Just want to make sure I'm not wasting dk. Thanks

[rain quarry]

Sub i misunderstood if they both were free so i touched scorpion first and then realised it was either one of them else i would have gone for sub

[rain quarry]

No

Will buy after they tweak its upgrading process

[south abyss]

I asked as the first pack was sub or sco

[rain quarry]

Yeah i got

Go for sub

I m telling you ky story

[rain quarry]

I bought around some 7 to 8 packs and got 2 diamonds out of it mk 11 sub and cs lui kang

[south abyss]

Ah ok apologies

[rain quarry]

O no need for it

Kameos is not that use less sp 2 counter is very useful

Its unlock on lvl 10 1st upgrade is for free