🪦-the-krypt

[charred prawn]

😭

[rustic portal]

billions must gain 0.1 bar of power on block breaker attacks

[unborn zinc]

Imagine it was 10% max power instead of .1 bars lol

[charred prawn]

its so weird to me that game rolls a block breaker die even when the block is alreaedy broken

[unborn zinc]

Because the game is hard coded for every single damage point to check for block breaker

Even if you run 0 BB it still checks

[charred prawn]

is that why it takes 3 minutes to open a chest in krypt?

[rustic portal]

this the kinda thing I study on the mkm test

[charred prawn]

😭

[unborn zinc]

I have, no idea why they coded it that way lol

[unborn zinc]

Me when leatherface sucks 😦

[rustic portal]

they probably copy and pasted from centaurian defense talent

cuz that’s how it functions as well, it checks for unblockable rolling attacks, not actual on block break

you can see that sometimes in survivor when you’re doing basic attacks or combo enders and you randomly eat the reflected dmg

[unborn zinc]

I think thats a byproduct the other way, the weird BB check has always existed, even before talents existed lol

[rustic portal]

it probably has but there was no relevancy on it

since there wasn’t any interactions with “unblockable hits” before

[unborn zinc]

Yeah

The longer stalker goes unchecked the happier I am, thats all I know lol

[charred prawn]

is there any coding difference between "unblockable" and "block breaker"

[unborn zinc]

Im ngl I dno if I wanna explain how rng works lol

[charred prawn]

but they are coded different?

[unborn zinc]

Basically the only difference is unblockable choses a number the rng roll ALWAYS will trigger, and BB choses a random number between 1-100

[charred prawn]

thats so weird lmfao

they made this game unecessarily hard to code

[unborn zinc]

Nah, thats how all rng systems work really

The weird part is it always checks the rng BB roll

[charred prawn]

but make it one or the other

[unborn zinc]

It should only be checking when relevant instead

[charred prawn]

why do both need to exist

lmao

[unborn zinc]

Hi

[rustic portal]

we could say the same thing about like 70% of the game descriptions and mechanics lol

sometimes one thing counts as this, but it doesn’t for another

[unborn zinc]

A simple "if blocked, check BB"

Instead of "if damaged, check BB"

[charred prawn]

shouldve reworked LD into revanant rather than ressurect with unvulnerability

[rustic portal]

they made a change to fx ace in the hole in 5.0, to prevent deathmark from countering it

[charred prawn]

oh really?

[rustic portal]

so that is their statement that it is not a resurrection

[charred prawn]

i was wondering around that

[unborn zinc]

Death save beats death mark

[rustic portal]

but they didn’t change sf johnny, bone shaper shinnok, dotd kitana, and pharaoh ermac’s passive to refleft that

and those trigger on resurrections

so it is not a resurrection cuz it counters deathmark, but it is a resurrection cuz those passives trigger vs it

[charred prawn]

speaking of ace in the whole

i wanted yalls opinion

[rustic portal]

is that your next fuse up idea or are you planning on ewt summons

[charred prawn]

do you think ace in the hole is better, or living dead is better for autobattle trying to keep my chars alive

[charred prawn]

ive been planning on ewt summons because i wanna get hella fuses on bear fang

but ace is also in there, so worth a thought

[rustic portal]

yea

[unborn zinc]

Ace is sexy

[rustic portal]

are you worried about the tag disable thing

[charred prawn]

thats exactly what im worried about

[rustic portal]

because even with that, I think that fx is better for surviving than living dead

[charred prawn]

if Ace didnt prevent you from tagging

it would be unconditionally better than LD

[rustic portal]

both probably get screwed by pipe steal still

[charred prawn]

or by kameo xray

which is also annoying af

[rustic portal]

but ace makes you restand after an attack + 1 bar

[charred prawn]

but less common now

[rustic portal]

so it makes some atks negative on hit

and your autoplay ai will just punish them

[charred prawn]

wdym im confused

like the char doesnt fall over?

[rustic portal]

yea they instantly get up

so say a cos liu sp1s your character and kills them

with ace they instantly stand up after the save and can just go attack him free

[unborn zinc]

Yeah they just take the hit stun they never do a dying animation

[charred prawn]

you make a good point

[rustic portal]

this feature spooks so many damn people during towers because they kill an erron who has 2 bars with a special, then he just instantly gets up and xrays them, and they have 0 way to avoid it unless they were usin term

[charred prawn]

however i believe that inabiliity to tag will lead to my character dying a lot

even if he gets another kill before he dies

[rustic portal]

yeah we’re gonna have to see how it plays

[charred prawn]

Corbo has fx ace

[rustic portal]

I mean have you asked corbo how it holds up for em

[charred prawn]

yea but i mean

i know just as well as he does that ace is great

[unborn zinc]

All I know is you want tanuki not ace if you care about surviving

[charred prawn]

but its really hard to gauge if they wouldve lived if it was LD instead

[charred prawn]

ive been over this before, tanuki is without a doubt (by a mile) the best armor in the game

however im not in a position that i could forseeably max it soon

its f6, and WLT is not exactly around the corner like EWT is

[unborn zinc]

I mean... start saving your DK man

Lol

[charred prawn]

if the tower was here, id just buy a few epic packs and do some f200s

then it would be no issue

i mean i can sit here and pray kaskets deliver

but i feel thats a tad bit silly

7+9+12+15=43 epic fuse cards to max

which is sizeably larger than 15 fuse cads, which im hard struggling with, to max kuai liangs scepter

[unborn zinc]

max scepter is my greatest proof of a long term player

That tower would just give it guaranteed lol so silly

[charred prawn]

i have it f9, and i skipped it in krypt

the only epic ive ever skipped in krypt

the regrets are immesurable

[rustic portal]

once again I’m mad that they didn’t repeat 1.0

they used 2.0 repeat

twice

[charred prawn]

.-. i hate nrs

[rustic portal]

if I was an OG, that’s max scepter easy, fine
but rn

only played 1.0 repeat

[unborn zinc]

How many bets they will RUIN lin kuei gear?

[gritty frost]

not much

[rustic portal]

in terms of rares, not much

[charred prawn]

lin kuei gear is actually really underrated

[unborn zinc]

Scepter and bomb nuked

[neat mulch]

Nah 1.0 repeated once

[unborn zinc]

Orb buff

[neat mulch]

It's how i got a ton of copies

[unborn zinc]

Hmm

[gritty frost]

I could've had that maxed, but I never had the motivation to play that tower ever

[neat mulch]

Have maxed scepter too

[unborn zinc]

Lol exactly

Its so telling

[charred prawn]

off the top of my head

i remember the other 3 epics being great

and kori being trash

[neat mulch]

Maxed it with the krypt, had it f9 for the longest

[unborn zinc]

I hate kori

[rustic portal]

I mean a 2nd time yea

[unborn zinc]

Its the most overrated junk ever oml

[charred prawn]

i watched mands ranking video and he put kori high and i was so angry

[gritty frost]

I wish I had maxed scepter

s drags would be much easier

[neat mulch]

Half of mand content is ragebaiting

[unborn zinc]

Really? The recent one?

[neat mulch]

It's so obvious

[charred prawn]

thats why im grinding krypt

[rustic portal]

LKT repeat timeline:
original 1.0
2.0 comes in
1.0 repeats
2.0 comes in
2.0 comes in
make it stop with the 2.0

[gritty frost]

lmao forreal 😂

[rustic portal]

literally no one wants it

[unborn zinc]

3.0: normal only, no guaranteed epic

[rustic portal]

is the tower setup too weird? boss battle every 10 battles

[charred prawn]

idk his ranking video was not that bad in all honesty

there was like 5-10 placements i seriously disagreed with

but considering how many gears there are in the game

[unborn zinc]

I didnt watch them

[charred prawn]

thats a rather high rate of correct takes

[unborn zinc]

Cuz im like, I know whay gear is good lol

[gritty frost]

who approves the correct takes

[charred prawn]

compare to cuday or starinskys knowledge

and mand looks like a damn genius

[gritty frost]

[unborn zinc]

Which one should I watch

[neat mulch]

Well cheaters usually don't study

[unborn zinc]

Cuday is so ass at this game bro

[charred prawn]

the epic weapon ones so you can get mad about what he does with kori

[gritty frost]

[gritty frost]

[unborn zinc]

Lol

I was gonna say blue it was perfect

[gritty frost]

[charred prawn]

i occasionally watch his videos for information, and it drives me NUTS when he stops giving information to comment on his garbage game play

[unborn zinc]

Ima just skip to the end lol

[charred prawn]

absolute adhd baby activities

[unborn zinc]

Omg kori isnt just high he put it godlike??

[charred prawn]

drop the final image here

[neat mulch]

☠️

[gritty frost]

kori godlike?

[charred prawn]

so i dont have to go back and find the vid

[gritty frost]

what?

[charred prawn]

and we can talk about it lmao

[charred prawn]

if i can remember what a gear does, its good, if i cant, its bad

my logic lmfao

[unborn zinc]

It is mostly good, and its pre ToH rework

[gritty frost]

what in the world

[rustic portal]

if we’re rating all epics fx, soul seeker is NOT even close to trash

[unborn zinc]

Soulseeker trash is weird

[rustic portal]

probably one of the most busted fxs I’ve seen, literally anyone can become mk11 raiden

but better

[charred prawn]

is blazing training actually that good?

[rustic portal]

he’s “balanced” out by having only 1 combo ender and having to cycle his slow combos

[charred prawn]

or is he smoking

[rustic portal]

it’s pretty damn good, but godlike? im iffy

It IS shield break that’s at the start of a special, and the fx is almost free dmg boost as a weapon

[unborn zinc]

It was before it was bugged too

I dont have enough time to say if its godlike but I think its a legitmate placement

[charred prawn]

to see devasator, rage wrench, and primal bait in the same tier as reapers end and tomahawk pisses me off so much

[unborn zinc]

Since I somehow only got it F0 blazing doesnt feel amazing ngl

[unborn zinc]

Old reaper was alot worse, but yea

[charred prawn]

block breaker is still a block breaker

[rustic portal]

yea it scales kinda well with fusions so the shield break % is somewhat reliable at mid fusion

[charred prawn]

rage wrench gets gapped by basic rares lmfap

[rustic portal]

at f0 it’s uhhhh

[candid sphinx]

Correction, they're a tier above

[charred prawn]

oh wait youre right

thats even worse

what the hell 😭

[ebon hawk]

Who made this tier list?

[charred prawn]

its from mands vid

[ebon hawk]

Oh the one he made a couple months back?

[charred prawn]

ye

oh yea

dagger in "great" tpp

too

that drove me nuts

[candid sphinx]

Btw, there's a trend in his tier lists, he tends to give much greater importance to low fusion performance rather than fx

[rustic portal]

that should make dagger even worse then lol

because it literally serves almost no purpose at low fusion

fx is what makes it usable, unless you specifically want 35% power cost reduction on a weapon

[charred prawn]

dagger = empty gear slot

change my mind

[candid sphinx]

I've never used that piece now that I think about it

[unborn zinc]

Dagger is the only 35% cost reduction on sp1

[charred prawn]

at that point

using any other cost reduction sp1

along with a power gen gear

will yield the same result

except those gears can have better other effects

[unborn zinc]

Its the best in slot at cost reduction besides kitanas epic

I mean... its not that bad

[charred prawn]

dagger is @ebon hawk s favorite gear

[unborn zinc]

And one other I forgot the other one

[ebon hawk]

Only ewt epic I don’t have Fx 💀

[charred prawn]

ik u love that piece

use it every day dont u

rip bros msg got deleted lmfao

shows u how much he likes it 😭

[ebon hawk]

Literally refreshing that tower just for that crappy piece

[charred prawn]

yea cuz its ur fav 💀

[rustic portal]

shuriken clears dagger I fear

[ebon hawk]

@rustic portal what would you rank Fx soul seeker? I’m curious cuz I have it F8 rn

[rustic portal]

it can’t sustain it’s fx effect solo unless ur lucky with deathmark technique, but it has potential to be busted if you have another dm gear

like bionic eye

50% stun chance on enders vs 3 deathmarks

the stun also lasts about long enough for 2 full average ender durations to cycle through

[charred prawn]

sheeee

so raiden stun basically

[rustic portal]

it’s literally stealing mk11 raiden’s flow yea

[charred prawn]

i wonder

[unborn zinc]

Yeah its a full stun duration

Which is so rare nowadays lol

[charred prawn]

is the piece dumb op on mk11 raiden?

because his passive is there too?

[rustic portal]

he only has one combo ender so nah

that’s his “balance”

[charred prawn]

constant stun loop vibe?

[unborn zinc]

Bro I miss when klk stun was that long😫

[neat mulch]

Malice and friendship rare on either diamond noob and you have an insta 3 deathmarks

[rustic portal]

if you put it on a 2 ender fast character

like mk11 scorp

you could almost just infinite combo any stun res less opponents

[charred prawn]

im saying cuz mk11 raiden already sometimes stuns on enders

if u add this too

[rustic portal]

yea I know

[charred prawn]

im not following y u say no then

[unborn zinc]

Mk11 raiden only has one combo ender, thats why hes not as insane

[rustic portal]

he has 50% from passive and then a separate 50% from the piece

[charred prawn]

but i can think of 2?

[rustic portal]

not 100% but still huge chance, problem is of course failing the one ender

[charred prawn]

his headbutt and his staff?

[rustic portal]

that’s movie raiden

[charred prawn]

no?

[unborn zinc]

Movie

[charred prawn]

im talking mk11

[rustic portal]

he doesn’t have the staff ender

[unborn zinc]

Go record a video of it then lol

[rustic portal]

unless they randomly added it this update without us noticing

[charred prawn]

the headbutt is usually where u get a stun

and then the staff is usually like a krushing blow

[neat mulch]

Still only on 1 combo

[rustic portal]

that’s from his passive

[charred prawn]

movie raidens staff is completely different

[neat mulch]

One replace the other

[unborn zinc]

The staff is the krushing blow replacing the same ender

[charred prawn]

oh wait

[unborn zinc]

Its not using his other combo

[charred prawn]

ur saying one combo

i was thinking one ender

[rustic portal]

we’re talking about how both sets of basic attacks have an ender, which he doesn’t

[charred prawn]

meaning like the first 3 hits when you tap is always the same thing?

[unborn zinc]

The karate chops dont have ender

[charred prawn]

wait i think i see

[unborn zinc]

Or its the other way I havent used him in so long ngl

But regardless

[charred prawn]

you mean both his combos lead into the same ender

[charred prawn]

yea same

[unborn zinc]

2 basic combos, only 1 has an endee

[charred prawn]

but why not count his staff krushing blow

even if its part of his passive

[unborn zinc]

His krushing blow replaces the ender on the single basic

[charred prawn]

shouldnt it count all teh same?

[neat mulch]

Because it replaces the other ender

[charred prawn]

just cuz it doesnt happen every time?

[unborn zinc]

No

Its on 3rd ender

[neat mulch]

He has 2 basic combos, and only 1 of them has an ender

[unborn zinc]

And its a visual to show he disabled enemy enders

[charred prawn]

oh i see

i see what u mean

its like ur precision talent wasnt maxed

[unborn zinc]

Also maybe it bleeds? Lol

[neat mulch]

Nah

[charred prawn]

cuz u straight up dont get the swipe to ender half the time?

[unborn zinc]

Yes

Hes basics do chain well so its not a huge deal

But like, an enemy will special you between

[charred prawn]

i didnt realize that was a thing

[rustic portal]

anyways point is

[charred prawn]

i havent played with him since like

week 2 on the game

[rustic portal]

just have a fast character with 2 different enders with fx seeker

[unborn zinc]

Soul seeker is popping on anyone who restands on both enders

[rustic portal]

nimble reptile infinite:

not that he needs stun unless he faces the evasion jades

[charred prawn]

what about like

[charred prawn]

kl kano

he has that chance too no?

might be fun to stack

[unborn zinc]

Kano doesnt use enders to much

[charred prawn]

main warcrime i see here is sultry gown

[neat mulch]

HE PUT VENGEANCE ON GODLIKE???

[rustic portal]

well it’s against blocking opponents

[neat mulch]

And not the other armors???

[charred prawn]

yea true

[unborn zinc]

Tbh I think vengence is godlike

[charred prawn]

vengeance is great but not godlike

imo

its phenomenal on fg

just "good" everywhere else

[unborn zinc]

Just throw it on a DoT team

[rustic portal]

he put it up there because of the various vids he did abusing the 2nd effect

[unborn zinc]

7 team fires is not bad in any world

[charred prawn]

i never use dot teams

[rustic portal]

vs bosses if you have team dot pieces

[neat mulch]

Gown, ffd, curtain, boots

[rustic portal]

fx shintai of revenge + fx vengeance

[charred prawn]

i never got the hype of ffd personally

curtain and boots are both fairly placed imo

[rustic portal]

unlimited power, literally taking dot immune and benefitting from it

[unborn zinc]

HEY SHHHH vengeance infinite is even less known than stalker😫

[neat mulch]

Free damage reduction and blind if they special you

[unborn zinc]

Dont telll people bro

[rustic portal]

and also less you know

common

also this is literally Mand

a realm warrior using the strat

idk I think they might be paying attention to him, sometimes

[cyan oriole]

Guys, what do I use to make a lot of damage and have a lot of health in Kript

[unborn zinc]

He barely talks about it

[neat mulch]

Use stones

[unborn zinc]

Tbh

Frost mask overrated

[cyan oriole]

There isn't any equipment for Krypt?

[unborn zinc]

No

[neat mulch]

No

[charred prawn]

not that give boosts

[rustic portal]

that would be kinda nice

[neat mulch]

Only stones

[charred prawn]

nahhh cuz the coupling with sotn makes it filthyyyyyyyy on mk11 sub0

[unborn zinc]

Imagine its the same % boosts lmao

[unborn zinc]

Overkill, SOTN stands alone

[cyan oriole]

If I use fusion 10 team on hard difficulty, do the enemies have the same health as me?

[rustic portal]

no

[charred prawn]

but team frost + shield at the start of the game too

[unborn zinc]

The team you use has no impact

[neat mulch]

Not putting gown in godlike is a warcrime

[rustic portal]

it’s a set of randomized preset teams

[unborn zinc]

But insta sp2

[charred prawn]

not gonna argue it stands alone amazingly, but will argue frost mask further improves it

[cyan oriole]

What team is good for Krypt?

[neat mulch]

Didn't even put them in great

[charred prawn]

thi i can agree with

[unborn zinc]

Tbf

I think there are all ranked as solo pieces

[charred prawn]

but even killing with basics gets u a refresh on ur shield

[unborn zinc]

Gown isnt godlike solo imo

[neat mulch]

Speed whenever an enemy tags in

And you steal health

[unborn zinc]

Its just great for me

[junior cedar]

gown + new noob fs rare

isnt that like free speed?

[neat mulch]

Yes

[unborn zinc]

Any combo pairing

[rustic tapir]

Gown + MK1 Kenshi

[unborn zinc]

And its godlike tho

[unborn zinc]

Lmao what

[junior cedar]

idk about that one

[rustic tapir]

What?
It’s a combo I try quite some time

[unborn zinc]

But like

Just use his sp2

[neat mulch]

But he put chair on godlike, which is a support piece

While boots give damage reduction, health and power gen

[rigid void]

Oh also figured I’d ask now

Cuz I’ve yet to play with him

Is mk1 kenshi good?

If so, how good?

[rustic tapir]

Yes

[unborn zinc]

Yes

[neat mulch]

Yes

[rustic tapir]

I’d say probably top tier, but not too close to the big dogs

[unborn zinc]

Draco will say best in the game, id go with low S for me tbh

[junior cedar]

mk1 kenshi is pretty strong and i love using him

[neat mulch]

Nah not best in the game

Still S

For a kameo he's the best tho

[rigid void]

Cuz I have him like f7-8

He will be fx soon wanna know if he’s worth using

I know he’s not a bad character

But I’m speaking “good” vs top character contender

I’d have to disagree with that

I’m gonna ride the KL rep train until dk noob is an option

It’s between kl rep and kw sub for me rn

[neat mulch]

Regen on xray vs deathmark on sp1 and speed on counter

[rigid void]

Well again I’m speaking for me personally

[unborn zinc]

You should be the one to test 🙂

[rigid void]

Funny enough speed is fully irrelevant to me

On sp2

Cuz I use auto and they ALWAYS TAG after counter

Dm on sp1 is fantastic but regen or shield is a necessity

[rustic portal]

when are we getting that regen on sp1 + shield on sp3 kameo

I wonder what debuff is optimal on sp2 counter

[gritty frost]

finally a run where i didn't drop anything good

[candid sphinx]

Refreshing, is it not

[gritty frost]

😂

[rigid void]

Debuff > buff imo

Cuz if on auto, ur char always tags

[neat mulch]

Pog

[junior cedar]

didnt even got 1 and you have f5

[neat mulch]

I opened KRYPT packs game not NT

[gritty frost]

lmao

[rustic portal]

if you get any krypt keys from junk make sure to tell ronin

[gritty frost]

0 krypt gear from a krypt pack is insane

[rustic portal]

he’ll love it

[neat mulch]

I got one yeah

[gritty frost]

krypt keys from junk are quite common tho

[rustic portal]

tell that to Ronin lol

Man is going to enter the trenches searching for krypt keys soon

[dim berry]

I have 40 krypt keys 😂

[neat mulch]

I got 62 lol

[rustic portal]

I only got 40 but soon I will burn em with my speedrun strat

10 min battle time on krypt runs average, huge

next season Im gonna need to come up with another idea

[gritty frost]

2 in a row idk

also weird enough I prolly spent over 30k hearts this season and haven't had a single 10 pack pull with over 8dk

:/

[rustic portal]

the fact that 400dk in 10 packs is technically possible

someone HAS to have gotten it by this point

[gritty frost]

Lmao

I don't thinkso

I've never seen anyone pull more than 100

400 just seems theoretically possible, but that may not be achieved until the end of time itself

💀

[rustic portal]

crisplay got like 130 or so in his lastest krypt junk openings

(im mad while watching)

[gritty frost]

I really hope next krypt season will be a grind friendly season

imagine MA + liu kang or just MA and something else that's common

[rigid void]

I’m developing new opps

[gritty frost]

i'm tired of using the same team over and over again wasting invigorating stones (but getting them back)

[rustic portal]

see why don’t we skip that nonsense and they just add in a nomad liu kang

[gritty frost]

LMAO real

[untold plume]

No Bloody finka for me

[rigid void]

After 50k hearts I got 2 keys

And now I legit need to let hearts convert to keys at the end of the week in order to not run out

[gritty frost]

lmaoooooo

how many keys do u have

[rigid void]

No that’s basically statistically impossible

[gritty frost]

it is possible

just extremely impossible

[rigid void]

Statistically impossible and actually impossible are two different things

[gritty frost]

it's something that is VERY unlikely to happen in the coming thousands of years

[rigid void]

Shuffling a deck of cards into a perfect order is possible

But statistically impossible

[gritty frost]

making it impossible

[gritty frost]

yeah exactly

[rigid void]

I know the chance of DKs per pack is 5%

However I do not know the distribution between the amount it drops

.000000000009% chance to drop DKs from all 10 packs

That’s including any number between 1-40, this is going to get incredibly smaller once I factor in outputting 40 from each one

So @rustic portal if you can find me the subdivision of the odds of each of the quantities of DKs I can get the actual number if yoy want to see it

However I think from the odd I already provided alone we can conclude that I probably don’t have enough time in 1 day to write out all the zeroes it would take to get to the actual percent

[rustic portal]

I saw one post detailing the chance of each range, and what those ranges were but I cannot for the life of me remember how to get to that post

[rustic portal]

it was on discord but I can’t remember if it was in here or one of the other servers I was in

[rigid void]

If you can remember the odd of precisely 40dks or even the range containing 40dks that’s sufficient for me to calculate the chance

[rigid void]

Dude I’m just going to become the guy that people ping when they drop keys

And I hate it lmao

[unborn zinc]

I posted them, and mods deleted it

I mean, im sure others posted too but thats how it went here lol

[rustic portal]

my fault g

[rigid void]

Can you send in DMs

[unborn zinc]

I gotchu

[rigid void]

Ty

[unborn zinc]

Sent

[rigid void]

Ok @rustic portal I have the actual probability now

Would you like me to calc the odds of getting 400dk

[rustic portal]

yea

but is it like incredibly long that it might trigger anti spam

[rigid void]

Let’s see

I’m calculating

So I’ve found .5% for 30-40 dks

Meaning .045 repeating for 40 specifically

And you’d have to hit that 10 consecutive times

Ok I’ve got the number

.000000000000000000000000000000003765%

I could’ve used scientific notation

But it’s not as fun

Ok so funny enough @unborn zinc @rustic portal this number is so abysmally small that my phone calculator cannot handle it

[rustic portal]

lol

[rigid void]

For some reason when you’re working with absurdly small decimal your calculators kinda just malfunction

My calculator insists that this number is .5

So weird lmfao

Let me calculate by hand for the number we all care about

So on average, you’d need to open the Krypt junk box (in instances of 10x openings)

133000000000000000000000000000000 times

[unborn zinc]

1/3.765 nonillion if I counted right

[rigid void]

Give or take 1 nonillion openings

[rigid void]

Something like that lol

[unborn zinc]

A stupid number

[rigid void]

So many zeroes get away and make it confusing

Essentially

[unborn zinc]

The human limit for luck is around 15 zeroes... thats over double that lol

[rigid void]

You could open a 10x for every second of every day for trillions upon trillions of years and still be nowhere close

[rigid void]

It’s 33 zeroes lmfao

[unborn zinc]

Yeahh thats just... lol

[rigid void]

I was gonna say over double, but since we’re counting zeroes not values…. Lmfao

Trillions upon trillions of times past the most comprehensible quantity to humans

[unborn zinc]

Nah id get it

[astral sluice]

Krypt gave me this for quiting lol

[rigid void]

Nah, I’d win

[rustic portal]

see now if we just dedicated a couple billion of humans to always open krypt junk every second

honestly wouldn’t know how much better it would be to land those odds

[rigid void]

It would decrease the number by 9 zeroes

If we had a billion people doing it

If we had 100 trillion people do it every second for the rest of their lives

We would get almost a 1/10000th of the way there

[rustic portal]

fantastic

[rigid void]

100 trillion people, and the next 10,000 generations in each family

Every single person does it every second for their entire life

We could see it happen

[rustic portal]

alright we can stop there at the theorizing, right

[charred prawn]

my point is

[rustic portal]

i dont want to think about a dystopia novel dictated by mkm

but yea

[charred prawn]

it will absolutely never happen

no matter how much luck is involved

no matter how long any of us play or grind

not feasible = realistically impossible

[rustic portal]

“possible” but not plausible, not unless time has passed so long that we can’t ever even witness it

[charred prawn]

even though it is statistically possible

[unborn zinc]

It wont happen

[charred prawn]

yes

[unborn zinc]

Its actually statistically impossible

[charred prawn]

thats the short version

ok not to get too nitty gritty about definitions

but to conclude its not statistically possible we would have to establish a degree of error

[unborn zinc]

The luck required goes so far beyond any recorded known event in all of human histroy its statistically completely insignificant

[charred prawn]

if we worked with no degree of error

which is unironicaly impossible for human testing

it is possible

[charred prawn]

but since this isnt possible

any quantity of error we can give it is so many times higher than that numbers difference from 0

[unborn zinc]

It is more likely, you literally fall through the chair you are sitting in (every atom perfectly aligning) than it is for someone to pull 400 DK lol

[charred prawn]

it equals 0 in the eyes of a human

wait what is the actual chance of that atom aligning thing

[candid sphinx]

Thank you for unlocking a new fear

[charred prawn]

is it actually larger than 3.7 x 10^-34?

[unborn zinc]

I was exaggerating but probably lmao

[charred prawn]

im going to google because im curious now

[unborn zinc]

I just want to point, its like... just unreal how low it is tbh

Which, ig it should be, its a random JUNK pack lol

[charred prawn]

google is annoying

its saying effectively zero

like bro obviously

[unborn zinc]

Lmao

[charred prawn]

now give me the number

ok i found a number

is more than 1 x 10^-10000

[unborn zinc]

@charred prawn I spotted 10^-39

[charred prawn]

so this is actually EXTREMELY more likely than that

[unborn zinc]

So, it is lower but I mean, at that rate its pointless to calculate tbh

[charred prawn]

but youre more likely to get struck by lightning on a sunny ady for sure

how did you land at that?

[unborn zinc]

I just pdf searched for it

[charred prawn]

wait hold on

i just found a potential mistake in my math

which makes the number even crazier

give me a second

.005 is the chance expressed as a decimal of 30-40

meaning .005/11 is the chances of 40

it should be this number raised to the power of 10

is that what you did too @unborn zinc

[neat mulch]

We got the monkey typewriting all of Shakespeare before 400 dks pulls

[charred prawn]

no jk my number is still right

im at 3.7 x 10^-34

[unborn zinc]

Lmao

[unborn zinc]

Seems right tbh

[charred prawn]

alright well

what im far more interested in is discussing whether or not junk is sustainable for krypt keys

[neat mulch]

Well, no lol

You'd have to gain 1 key every 20 packs for it to be sustainable

[unborn zinc]

@charred prawn the human theory limit for luckiest possible thing ever, assuming all humans do it for the rest of earths existence is 3.1 x 10^19

[charred prawn]

10^-19 i assume you mean?

that still sounds ridiculous

but all of human history is also ridiculous

so i believe it

[unborn zinc]

Calculated as a 1 in x chance instead of %

[charred prawn]

ah

yea then that makes sense

ok can you double check my math here

meaning the chance that you do NOT get a key is

1-.0311

therefore

(1-.0311)^x =<.5

[gritty frost]

I'm back

[charred prawn]

with x being the quantity of boxes purchased?

[unborn zinc]

@charred prawn the chance you get at least 1 key out of 20 pulls is 46.84%

[charred prawn]

yea

try 22

cuz i think that was just barely over 50

[unborn zinc]

Ok gimme one sec

[gritty frost]

@charred prawn imma open 20 rn

watch me get 1

[charred prawn]

ah man i screwed up my logic

[unborn zinc]

50.1% to get 1 or more

[charred prawn]

im sure you will

[charred prawn]

yea that the same number i reached

[gritty frost]

Imma aim for getting 3 from 2k hearts

[charred prawn]

if you round it off to 50% flat

that means 44 purchases of the junk box per key correct?

on average

[unborn zinc]

That depends how you wanna calculate that

[gritty frost]

FINALLY MY JUNK BOX CURSE IS LIFTED, it's been well over 30k hearts i didn't get anything over 8 dk from 10 pulls

[unborn zinc]

@charred prawn technically... itd be ~280 pulls before a key is statistically guaranteed

[charred prawn]

gyranteed is not necessary

[charred prawn]

because this has to work for the long run

[gritty frost]

oh btw, here u go @charred prawn

[neat mulch]

Bro stealing all the drops

[charred prawn]

meaning you can assume the instance of us rolling the dice will be extremely high

[unborn zinc]

Then its be... ~33 I think?

[charred prawn]

man STOP

[unborn zinc]

Just based on rough additive odds

[charred prawn]

chatgpt saying 32

so were pretty cloe

[unborn zinc]

Well, maybe rounds to 32

[charred prawn]

so the answer is no then

junk boxes are not sustainable for keys

[gritty frost]

i'm gonna do 2-3 more runs in a bit

don't play when i'm on 🙂

[unborn zinc]

More or less, you cannot infinite keys from 100% converting hearts

Which is a shame

[gritty frost]

heheheheheheheeh

[charred prawn]

wdym?

[unborn zinc]

If you spent every heart, youd lose keys not gain

If you did 4 runs a day, anyways

[charred prawn]

yea well you can get nitty gritty about like

first two runs not costing keys

[unborn zinc]

I am counting those

[charred prawn]

but if ur getting all the way up to 10 a day like i am

also this is based off of purchasing 0 from the krypt store

and im assuming i will still need to buy the epic for quite some time

if only it was 5% man

if it was 5% flat it would be sustainable

damn

so basically any way you slice it rn

you cannot indefintely open junk unless youre doing <4 krypt runs per day

[charred prawn]

i feel like this is wrong tho

if we assume 32 flat per key

4 runs is 80 packs

64 packs

[inland plaza]

Junk box...

[charred prawn]

which is 32 x 2

to return ur two keys

5 krypt runs a day youd get 100 packs which is > 96

but at 6 runs a day 120 packs < 128

if you wanna argue 1.5 excess per run

6 runs is the limit of sustainability

6 you coudl sustain if buying nothing from the store

any more you cannot sustain

[gritty frost]

@charred prawn how many keys do u have

[charred prawn]

only 34 atm

but i have 27k hearts

[gritty frost]

how many do u spend on avg

[charred prawn]

7-9 per day

[gritty frost]

every krypt season

[gritty frost]

jesus christ

[charred prawn]

49-63 per week

but i return them via excess hearts or boxes

ive been spamming junk, so my quantity has been going down

[gritty frost]

if they drop em hahahaha

unlucko

[charred prawn]

im sitting on hearts this season so that they convert

instead of buying jjunk

[gritty frost]

bruh

[charred prawn]

because im down bad for keys

[gritty frost]

I'd gamble it all ngl

[charred prawn]

i cant do that

cuz if it doesnt pay out

when i run out of keys next week ill get less grind in

cuz ill run out of keys

[ebon hawk]

Bros gonna resort to buying key packs 💀

[charred prawn]

ive unironically thought about it

if it was a dollar a key i probably woudlve

[ebon hawk]

Epic packs >

[charred prawn]

but 2 dollars a key is too much

[gritty frost]

don't buy anything unless it's the kombat pass

doesn't that give keys as well

[charred prawn]

not enough to really matter

[charred prawn]

actually keys are better value lmfao

[gritty frost]

Yeah well, this kombat pass is absolutely crap compared to the previous ones in terms of dragon krystals

[charred prawn]

13 keys from same price as epic pack

youre going to get more epics from grinding that than from an epic pack

[ebon hawk]

True but epic fuse up and new dia. That’s better than dks imo

[ebon hawk]

Theoretically…

[gritty frost]

yeah im gonna buy it for the epic fuse up mainly

idc about noob

[ebon hawk]

Well I’m tryna full max the game so I def care ab noob

[gritty frost]

• dk

[ebon hawk]

At least get him up to F3

[charred prawn]

the only difference is that using the keys take forever

and you could argue you could easily go to work irl for an hour

and get the value better

[ebon hawk]

True but at least for you you got auto battle krypt going non stop

So ig it depends on your circumstance

[charred prawn]

i would stiill buy epic packs

[ebon hawk]

Well with you and the amount of krypt you grind you sounded dead serious 💀

[charred prawn]

cant stop the grind

[ebon hawk]

Plus you can f2p key grind anyway so there’s really no point

[charred prawn]

yea the only difference is junk

and epic pack > junk

[ebon hawk]

Yeah

Obviously

[charred prawn]

just stop buying junk and u have infinite keys

[unborn zinc]

Cant you?

I mean, you earn 2 keys a day anyhow

Minimum

You just cant key grind AND do a ton of runs lol

[charred prawn]

@unborn zinc can u double check what i said here

u said 4 a day

i found 6 a day by that logic

[charred prawn]

yea you can

just keep the hearts and let it convert

if you make 2.2k, every 10th run is an extra key generated

and all the ones u spent come back at the end of the week

[unborn zinc]

Man, I guess

And thats what

30 runs for "free epic"

Yeesh

[charred prawn]

💀

least time consuming mkm day

[unborn zinc]

I gotta be honest, their math is surprisingly well done then. The numbers are quite well calculated to generate resources on normal 2 run days, and barelyyy infinite if you do more

I can appreciate that precision, but im also unsure if it was even intended lmao

[steep summit]

1st floor krypt epic chest 🙂

[gritty frost]

wtf? I've never seen a pull like that before

[glad stream]

Ngl that should be guranteed i've never seen that

[hardy owl]

I'll take that, even though it's not an s

Chose Klassic Raiden as a kameo fighter

[neat mulch]

First match lol

[steep summit]

Green chest 3 dragon, Blue chest 5 dragon, purple chest 10 dragon. If you luck

[neat mulch]

Just need 1 rare fusion and i can max stalker

[fleet bane]

I’ll stalk you

[gritty frost]

rip

[gritty frost]

W

how do you get the 45 limit

from towers? or u open packs and stuff

[neat mulch]

Both

[gritty frost]

which pack

[neat mulch]

DK packs

[gritty frost]

tower packs?

[neat mulch]

Tower but sometimes also krypt and dk noob

[gritty frost]

oh ok

[gritty frost]

@neat mulch At this point my account can't be normal

[neat mulch]

Ban

[spring dome]

Nice season

[neat mulch]

Got 2 epics during noob season and 0 this season bruh

[gritty frost]

and I got 2 epics in 1 singular run

[hardy owl]

I'm done with this season - brought meat's cleaver

Gonna wait Wednesday

[unborn zinc]

Wish Drahmin Mask sellbacks gave souls at least...

[neat mulch]

I hate the stupid kameo bug

Where your characters randomly tag in at the same time of the assist

So you start walking past the enemy

At least i'm not short on revive stones

[gritty frost]

yeah in that case just stop hitting and tag out, the enemy will be stun locked, so you're getting a free kill by just tagging out

[neat mulch]

Can't tag out

[gritty frost]

well that's sad

the bug happens to me when I assist + get feared out, so ig that's why i can freely tag out while the opponent's just standing there

[hardy owl]

I got a vampiress copy one run

[neat mulch]

@charred prawn

[gritty frost]

hahahhahaha

we are so evil

[unborn zinc]

W

[neat mulch]

Come on man i need a single rare fusion and haven't dropped one in 3 runs bruh

[gritty frost]

lmao same

4 runs no rare

[neat mulch]

Even dropped a diamond

[gritty frost]

nvm I literally just dropped a rare

womp womp, now it's your turn

[neat mulch]

I hate you

[granite sparrow]

whats the best team to get shark s rank? cyrax reptile scorpion? or mileena?

[gritty frost]

karma's a nice sunny beach

I just had my game crash ;l

mid-match

[granite sparrow]

lmao

[gritty frost]

two mileenas and a liu kang

[granite sparrow]

doesnt shark need cyrax?

[gritty frost]

get S dragon

it's better

🙂

[granite sparrow]

i dont have the kollection for it

[gritty frost]

welp

idk then

check pinned msgs

[granite sparrow]

i did

shark seems the easiest to me

[granite sparrow]

how do u even do 26 xrays with that

whats the equipment

[prisma plover]

😭

[neat mulch]

Cyrax, mileena, scorpion

[ebon hawk]

@rigid void

[rigid void]

Shut up

[granite sparrow]

whats the plan here? keep switching between scorp and mileena and get as much dots as possible on the enemy?

[neat mulch]

Yeah

[granite sparrow]

k thx

[prisma plover]

Nahh

[neat mulch]

FINALLY a rare fusion

[gritty frost]

26 dk from just the run

@charred prawn you're actually gonna hate me

@neat mulch you're actually gonna hate me

[neat mulch]

Even more?

[neat mulch]

Nah that's fine by me lol

My lizard noob is f7

[gritty frost]

meh, idc about the noob, I got 106 or 108 dk from junk boxes in the past 3 hours (70 something just now)

• like 8 keys or something

[unborn zinc]

Ugh you gonna make me grind krypt now

[gritty frost]

I had 241 dk 4 days ago...

[dim berry]

What did you do to get that many

[gritty frost]

krypt

just

krypt

nothing else

literally

[dim berry]

How do i fix the kameo bug bruh

How do I fix this?

[neat mulch]

Only way is quit the match

[dim berry]

I GOT BACK IN THE GAME

[gritty frost]

no way

[dim berry]

I beat the battle

[neat mulch]

Finally done

@unborn zinc @rustic portal @rigid void

[dim berry]

I switched to mileena and it worked but the only thing is that you cant swap to anyone else after the bug

[unborn zinc]

Bout time

[dim berry]

all from krypt?

[neat mulch]

Fusion cards

Which i got from the krypt

[gritty frost]

what does fx do

[unborn zinc]

Makes it arguably the best BB in the game

[neat mulch]

Now my next target is maxing cleaver (F8 rn) and both NT brutality rares (both f7)

[unborn zinc]

Dude I hope we dont see all these amazing pieces get nuked 😦

[dim berry]

@unborn zinc

[unborn zinc]

Gain 0.1 bars of power on block breaker

[neat mulch]

I only want to be seeing buffs on bad gears, not nerfs on good ones

[unborn zinc]

Bros leaving the planet

[dim berry]

I have jasons brutality gear but dont simply have the diamond 🙂

[gritty frost]

nah

[unborn zinc]

Almost all krypt gear needs buffed man

[gritty frost]

why is it the best

[unborn zinc]

I just told you

[gritty frost]

that fx sucks

[unborn zinc]

That FX is nutty as hell

[neat mulch]

Bro doesn't know the secret sauce

[unborn zinc]

Neither did you a week ago lol

[gritty frost]

spill the sauce

[neat mulch]

Well i didn't call it bad either lol

I went from f3 to fx in 2 weeks

[unborn zinc]

Krypt is balanced

[unborn zinc]

The sauce is 0.1 is deceptive as hell

[dim berry]

Bruh i hate weathered warfare

[unborn zinc]

What about unweathered warfare

[gritty frost]

what are the drops for normal/hard runs lmaooo

[molten turtle]

Lizard baraka or kold scorpion any advice?

[dim berry]

🤔

[lament python]

Not sure haha

[dim berry]

Bruh how

Did you do alot of krypt runs or what

[gritty frost]

not really

some days I only did 3 runs

some 7 runs

today I did I think 4 or 5

Now I have to wait like 2-3 weeks for these current towers to end

for ewt return

[inland plaza]

Nah u don't get shiiiii

I literally only get revive stones from bosses

Smh

[gritty frost]

lol

bro is out for blood

[midnight wadi]

Doing 6 runs a day today maybe 7 currently on number 3 pray for me

[dim berry]

Tarantula is the one where you dont revive right

[rigid void]

So weird

It just happened to me

I got S drag without 100%

[hardy owl]

It's possible to get lizard Baraka as of now?

4 hard runs I guess

[inland plaza]

Finally a drop...

5th hard run tdy

Smhhhh

[cunning niche]

leshhh goooooo donny

[inland plaza]

🙌

[dim berry]

Yay finally jades epic!!!

[inland plaza]

Was that hard...?

Like the difficulty

Cuz ain't no wayy

[dim berry]

yeah hard

I cant stand elder krypt

[midnight wadi]

I just completed a Krypt Run in Mortal Kombat mobile! Check out my stats.

[deft quartz]

Acabei de concluir uma Partida da Kripta em Mortal Kombat mobile! Confira minhas estatísticas.

[mellow spade]

W random drop or L?

[pliant dew]

I think I just got 3 gold fusions in a row

[pliant dew]

W

[unborn zinc]

Definetly W

[glad stream]

Yo that's a good drop

[vagrant egret]

Cool

2 elders + baraka bought

[vagrant egret]

I literally need 1 of those for it to be f3

I feel like skipping the gears ngl

[unborn zinc]

I want that kind of luck

[glad stream]

I want Kitana's friendship rare rn so i can fuse it up to F5 or so

[serene trail]

I just completed a Krypt Run in Mortal Kombat mobile! Check out my stats.

[rigid void]

Does anybody here have the kenshi epic fx?

Testing a theory

[hardy owl]

I'll wait next season

[random scroll]

I just completed a Krypt Run in Mortal Kombat mobile! Check out my stats.

[ocean cipher]

Is there a way to use invigorating stone on kameos?

[unborn zinc]

No

[supple abyss]

[cinder arrow]

After Floor 2nd Elder boss
Got diamond afyer like 4 or 5th run

[elfin forge]

Insane drops

[junior cedar]

Good for starters, not great when maxed

[elfin forge]

Idk if i should max pauldron now or wait for bionic eye

[gritty frost]

nah

[unborn zinc]

Broooo

Ur so fkin lucky

[supple abyss]

Thanks.

[elfin forge]

Yah

[vestal barn]

They were not kidding about the krypt drop rate, yetserday i got noobs friendship epic and just now i got bionic eye

This was from hard mode floor 1 boss

[elfin forge]

I must be the only one who doesnt have new epics yet

[junior cedar]

Now this is much better than yesterday

Wish it was the other piece but beggers cant be choosers

[candid sphinx]

Nah, I've done 5 runs a day more or less and still haven't dropped them

I mean, I'm getting good drops I can't complain

[elfin forge]

unlucky

wish they add them in krypt store

[cinder arrow]

Holy Moly!
I got 2 Diamond Fusion in one run. 😳😳

[midnight wadi]

Ggs

[molten turtle]

They don’t die do they?

[ocean cipher]

Nah

[grand pecan]

Junk box home run

[midnight wadi]

Nice bro

[grand pecan]

Yep. 2 bars on tag in OR on starting character. Clutch for S-Dragon Krypt grades.

[languid summit]

Floor 2 boss like I am incredibles

[spark inlet]

I just completed a Krypt Run in Mortal Kombat mobile! Check out my stats.

[burnt sable]

I'm missing Abyssal Wraith's Shadow

[unborn zinc]

İs bionic skeleton new

İ have that

[burnt sable]

no

[elfin forge]

Literally same lol

[midnight wadi]

100 Krystal’s spent 11k hearts

[junior cedar]

Kameos get exhausted after a krypt run, dangit

[dim berry]

I had to buy more kameos

[unborn zinc]

Thats the price we get due to removing kameo matches

[junior cedar]

True tbh

[untold trench]

You can just remove em & run krypt without kameo

Not much different

[burnt sable]

Skarlet with his fs set is so good

I'm using FS Set + Wicked Sister's Festive Mask and Vial of Infinite Blood

[quartz rune]

My best run so far

[crude wagon]

Just lost a krypt run because the ai liz baraka used blade spark as I hit them so now the match is soft locked :|

Awesome

Great job NRS

[glad stream]

Nah u aint alone

[unborn zinc]

Yeah I dont have either new one still lol

[midnight wadi]

Do know what to do

[junior cedar]

This is my cenario with krypt gears. still missing some new ones

[midnight wadi]

You missed skarlet armor from the shop ?