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I think it will be real-life money
It sounds like it will be run similar to off-road
Which is weird. I wonder if minis can run in the normal races too.
I have 1.05€ from Google
wonder if that is enough
hope fully it's 0.99€ and not 1.09€
Getting back in the races!
I saved up 40k
Money isn't the issue as you will find out. It's all about fusion and s6 resources. I have over 4 million in cash but only got one car in D tier that is at Max.....
doesn‘t the ladder event support the playthrough?
Play through what?
the Mini
Play through the mini...
@wanton sorrel you need to be a bit clearer/specific of what you are talking about.
Hey
Hi ya'll
You do easy money races
Double layout is hard for low upgraded cars
But yes you can do it
But you can only do it 3 times per 4 hours
Yeah
But it helped me a lot in some debt situations
Basically ladder races but easier to get ahold of
👀 any mods around 👀
Hello
Hi
Hi
Hahah, did you just send your player ID?
Might not want to make that public
But alright
I lost ya, buddy
@knotty coral that is my id
I wouldn't be going around posting it Willy Nilly
Warning ID: 1497
Successfully warned @sonic mortar
Reason: do not post your player ID in the public chat
Because people can do bad things to your account if they know your ID
Because it isn't released yet. It is coming in the next update on Nov 24
...
Привет
@small karma доброе утро ☕
iam madmax
Доброє
almost done with rookie cup
in my 180 PP Silvia
and I have lots of mone ready to be used to upgrade the Mini tomorrow
I would be astonished if some one did a any% speedrun for this game.
Who play
Agreed ahmed
No this is the place for event races
Oh........
o hai

waddya doing here Rando?
What is that?
I do play rebel racing. Joined a few months back
Hello
@past charm a speedrun of the entire game
in any% you just finish the main storyline as fast as possible
also sry for pinging
@shut salmon just play races
I did 50k yesterday
and I started yesterday
Your tab is Samsung tab 3 right?
F
@past charm sorry for ping but can we dm?
Do easy money races, double payout, daily test drives. Watch the Free money ads, open the daily reward....
Guys
Do you look muy garage?
how can i play rebel racing in pc?
or it is not avaivable on pc now?
I think is not available
Hey everyone! Happy Monday! 🌞
Happy monday yay
happy monday yet
basically i didnt exactly lose that save
Oh.
it was logged in my fb account
but while i was trying to race tyler for his escort (this was during beta so the games server was kinda funky) the race kept loading and loading in a loop
i contacted support to tell them that the game acted up trying to get the Escort
Good to see someone from the Beta days!
Arthur (support team) said he has added the Escort in my garage
however i didnt see it in my garage
i replied again that its not in my garage
and i logged offline
then later i logged on again but i was stuck in fetching profile
it wasnt my internet
i deleted the game and reinstalled it and it worked fine
Yeah, I don't know.... Hopefully help & support can sort it out
but logging in my fb account it gets stuck in the fetching profile loop
I have the same problems
I tried it around 10 times and then it worked for me
But then the next time when I logged in the game again it disconnected me from facebook
So after that I realised it will always crash like that so I never logged in ever again
Can I get any tips
Win races👍
How many € did the K5 Blazer actually cost?
Then I might find out how much I need for the Mini if it's also real money
0.99¢ (USD) I think it'll be the same in EUR
The Mini price will be in game soon. Did you buy the K5?
I started playing yesterday
somehow everytime I start playing the game it's always during an event where I can gain a good advantage which helps during the progress
I'll reach 100k cash the end of the day
If it's 1.09€ then Google survey is my only hope because I haven't got any survey for over a month
and even if the survey isn't supposed to be made for people like me I still get 0.08€ for taking part
that makes my 1.05€ go above 1.09€
I'm writing way too much
1$ is 0.84€ rn
there's no way it could be 1.09€
A Box With Toy Cars Has Fallen, React with ✂️ To open it!
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getting more cash
when I get the Mini I'll max it first
then get fusion parts and rank it up
wait
does 2 to 3 star
fusion cost 50 fusion parts?
you didn't name brand and model
the grey porsche
a 91 turbo 3.0
I need to know the full name of the car so I can look it up and vote
porsche 911 turbo 3.0 1967
@hidden adder - I'm hoping that with this new mini and the setting in Italy that there will be a few references to a certain film? - Maybe the boss will be Michael Caine who you have to win the car off? - But please remember; lads in this country they drive on the wrong side of the road.....
One is Italian job
Is a famous movie
Will i be able to post my Rebel Racing Video from youtube without getting mute now ?
Katie told me we should be able if its Rebel Racing related
update is out!
@obtuse dirge Oh for Gods sake, the original please....
?
@oak bane Original wut
either way we will all be after the gold......
makes me scared about the Minis
why do I not have access to mini madness?
Idk
@wanton sorrel You have to be an Englsih bankrobber to get one for free.
And real 💰 stuffs from Hutch makes me feel less happy about this update
I can't start the event
I see the update ooo
Can’t see smh
@wanton sorrel it's not started yet. patience young one.
Timezones?
It tells me to progress in career but I don't want to complete Tier D
It is like 11 PM 23th of Novemeber here in Hong Kong
For me is 7 pm 23th November here in U.A.E
Oh I see
The update will come in 11 pm
the first mini ladder doesn't start until the 25th.
Lucky you guys got it early smh
Most events happen at 3pm UK time. (GMT)
nvm can't access daily
hmm just updated the game
Heyyy
oo nice. another p2p update
that was the K5 price, it is slightly more for the Mini in USD.
I believe it is 25 FC to go from
1 -to- 2⭐ . And then 50 FC to go from 2 -to- 3 ⭐
With the Mini purchase you do get Free entry into the Ladder and Head-to-Head event for the Mini this week.
and I'm just 0.04€ off
now I have to wait for a Google survey to complete
hi katie
Oh is only 1 dollar
fingers crossed for you!
delete it before u get warned.
no advertisement
just saying
oh
How/where do you do these Google surveys?
you are right, any self promotion isn't usually welcome. But we've started a Creator Program for the game
@wanton sorrel why not just buy it?
oh i see
His poor to buy it...
the cheapest you can get here is a 5€ card
but I want to take part in the ladder and get those fusion credits
else it would be less worth for me
I got the update ʕ•̫͡•ʕ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʕ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʕ•̫͡•ʕ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʕ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʔ
Still just says 'coming soon' on my game....
Yeah the update isn't available for me yet 😭 FOMO
almost got my first offroad car yesterday. was at 89 gold keys and the next daily was after the sale.
😦
micdrop u on ios?
Dude it make the garage extra bigger
@sturdy sphinx samsung
oh.
Maybe it is our location.
yea. probs
It'll be up soon. I'm on the edge of the world, things are always slow here.....
Aww, only rookie stuff activates today.
yeah, but a few good things later this week.
Yeah looks like it
why i can't buy a mini madness
less painful than being 4 cents off
._.?
I have 1.05€
download update
yes
Oh it's available for me now too!
It can take a few hours for all app stores to update globally, so keep checking back periodically for your stores update!
Y do u need to add me?
No thanks. I keep my DMs turned off because I don't want to get messaged all the time.
ok
hey hutch
why the first mini's price is a real money?
._.
lets look the mini madness 🙂
oh
new loading screen
great goob
.)
welcome
Okay
Wild guess
Call it a shot in the dark
But I'm going to say that you probably watch Dream
wrote to support asking why I don't get surveys anymore
With having both the Escorts and the Minis in the game, I would like to re-suggest doing a Discord competition for the ugliest Car/garage.
Hey
please contact Customer Support from your game to report them
ok
Ok
ee
Вы дибилы
hi
hi
Oi
Hola soy nuevo
Sad face
@lRedKill3r are u new to this game
I was almost finishing the game but then i deleted it
Helllooooo in new to this game
welcome
How many $ does the Mini actually cost with sale?
idk
Warning ID: 1502
Successfully warned @hybrid moth
Reason: No self promotion
I was going to call a moderator but there was already someone
when can i buy a mini?
play a bit
first win the second race against Tyler
you should unlock the Airport then
then you can buy the Mini for 1.09€
Hi
get a role
I dont feel like buying a mini since i already used money on the blazer
thank god i did buy the veyron before it became 2 mil tho
Hmm
hm
Yo guys tell fast whether I should buy this or wait for another offer
It's expires in 2h
grab that
I see two different opinions here?
Wait what kind of car you got rn?
he's tier b already
Am about to reach tier a today
you're rushing
Ik
Save your gold
Oh yes in silver box we receive cars only till tier b
So even I think it's not worth it
Better go for gold 🥇
Your game fire
Thank you! What do you enjoy most?
For me it's losing to ✨ myself ✨
how are you losing
For me it's the water😂😂
Why is the airport located next to the off road section?
I’d make a lot more sense if it was put in the desert town
OK stop the criticism on such small things duh🙄
I’m not saying as like game breaking
But Itd make much more sense if it was put idk
Maybe somewhere that isn’t filled with mountains?
Of all the things to complain about....🙄
Well airport's are located at many places even on rugged terrains, there is no limits to that
Really? Maybe we let that slide.
Good idea 😂
Any chance we can get a hint about how much the other 3 minis will cost?
I think they are achieved by crates right?
I don't know. I would be surprised if we got them in normal crates.
Oh I just opened 2 bronze crates and used up my bronze keys lol
But I don't think so they will add cars to bronze crates else getting cars would be too common
Right. Only augments, gold, etc
Oh btw
One of the other 3 mini is available in events
So 2 minis are undisclosed
They will be available on 1st december
So it will probably have to be won in a h-2-h or something 😒
Boing
@woeful garden when the Simpsons can live next to a prison then Hutch can put a airport right in the middle of the mountains
I’m semi annoyed it’s p2w again
Don’t get me wrong £0.99 isn’t much but it ain’t the point
hold up
nvm it's ok
but I still don't understand 0.99$
anyway I have around 1 hour left and I'm now at 95k
0IQ-BOT#2182 has been banned.
100k in less than 1.5 days
Google is my last hope
else I have to wait again
because I want every boss car
but it doesn't work without fusion parts
Yooooo
How can I fuse my car?
You can fuse when you have fusion credits and then when you have you go to garage then press the car you want to fuse then press fuse. You need to use some cars to fuse the car though.
How do I log out?
Hi
Of my rebel racing account
Hello
Does anybody know
I don’t know
How do you get money without working like 100k
You pay real money, very not worth it

Hi
Holaaaa
Boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Hola
hello
Watashi no katana ni makeru no wa meiyodesu
what?!
What?
The game needs electric cars
Yo
Tesla roadster 2.0
???
Who here plays Minecraft
Mini head to head ladder and easy money races vanished. This happen to anyone else?
<@&671744559226683403>
The new update is nice isn’t it @everyone ?
No
Y
Skills 😎
I can't do that you cheating little frick
The hell
@dense gate Tagged 👀
That is absolutely not cool. It's ridiculous if it's gold only
god damn please dont tell me hutch is gonna milk their players even more than Top Drives players
@rapid harness tagged what
Why did you tag
You tagged mods
Oh yeah there was someone promoting another game
You'll have to scroll up quite a bit
The guy talking about who else played Minecraft?
And this server is for...
Wouldn’t really classify it as promotion but thanks for the heads up
why do you ping Hutch staff
Don’t really need to mass tag for that, we do read chat when we have time
Or lurk
Hm yes, that’s our priority 
XD
yeah but you can't just ping someone who isn't online
It gets them onlinr
Wow long time no see
what
Ima get wasted on my big day WOOOOOOOOOO
Hello!
Hi
@hidden adder so you’ve changed the currency for 6 stages. Do you also plan to expand the way to earn that gold?
Do u really need to ping
@hidden adder @light ferry - Yeah, it'd be interesting to know if this is going to be the same for all S6 resources?
@light ferry I guess if gold coins become more available then it's ok, but it smells like its another P2W approach.
@cerulean scaffold S6 resources are not easy to come by
@cerulean scaffold well the depends wether you want to get your car as powerful/good as possible or not.
Bruh you can win races even without them unless one's a noob😉
no you can't. Not H2H's
It depends, do u go crashing on the road all the time😂😂
Nope. have you done a H2H race?
Nvm the game this getting p2w day by day and I am a full f2p player
So have you done a H2H race?
Well I have answered that in my previous point didn't I?
No.
Exactly
Have you done a H2H race?
U answered yourself 😑
No, I didn't. I'm asking you a simple question. It's a yes or no answer.
r/whoosh
don't know what that is supposed to mean.
You will figure it out later 😅
Maybe, the point is though, that you need S6 resources to win races, which I'm sure you know.
But not if u gotta pay gold for it🥇
Anti spenders UNITE
Idts anyone will buy it anymore
As an anti spend you get to make fun of people who waste money
Yesss
It's a perk
F
Money waster LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Could've used that money for a nice burger now could you have
is this the remedial room?
As an anti spend you ONLY buy necessities
Not even ganes
Not even toilet paper
JUST FOOD AND WATER
Those are the ONLY necessities
Hi @everyone
Damnn😂
@everyone
Why @everyone ?
Simply
@everyone
Haha
@everyone +1 XD
But no spamming
@everyone I own you
Ok thats it no more
Imagine getting muted🤣
?
I think I‘ll just get a 5€ card
when my surveys would still arrive in a 2 week pattern then it would already be too late
then I could also take part in offroad
and a future event
Thank you! 🙂
ih
@hidden adder the best of our hutchies is online
@everyone give a warm hello to our favorite hutchie: Katie
Hi
stop pinging everyone
It doesn't even work LOL
Also @dense gate @everyone doesn’t work. It doesn’t ping anybody
See ^^
I'll do that @scenic harness
I won’t
I'm one of those people LOL
It would also just upset the community
@hidden adder #🚗│car-suggestion-chat needs better rules
only suggested cars that has
-name of car brand
-name of car model
-year of the car (if there are multiple versions)
should become valid to suggest
(also sorry for pinging)
Oh god damn it just let people be themselves
Like do you have to complain because something isn't your way @wanton sorrel? Want your sippy cup?
there are multiple versions of the X-Bow, how am I supposed to know which one it is?
enough of this conservation, someone change the topics
We are in general
#🙊│off-topic is where random topics go. And if you want to start a new topic maybe go there.
^
I don’t really type there
I don't really type at all tbh
I'm normally busy with other things
5am is in 5 minutes
I'm heading out
huh
Yes it costs money
the mini costs 50php more than the K5
honestly i wouldnt mind buying it if it wasnt the same price as the internet im buying
Canadian timezone I'm on
in the philippine you pay a lot to get 2GB thats barely over 700kbs
I’m also in Philippines
But I don’t go out of home so I just use internet
Unlimited
LOL
let me guess, manilla region?
its a whole different story down south in mindanao
Also let’s go to #🙊│off-topic this is so off topic
I’ve never been there
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Since when do resources in the daily Resource shop cost gold?! 😡
@hidden adder - Since this morning apparently....- It'd be good if Katie could clarify on this. Is this just a one off? Just gold for S6 resources or gold for any?
Yeah I’m angry too, I just hope that they will add some gold sources too
Ideally in h2h events
zrtdc
maybe gold will become easier to get hold of so it will balance out. (maybe)
S6 resources used to be cash in the Resource shop. Now with the new update, they cost gold?! I guess this was just a miss in the notes sent out about the new update? It would be nice to receive some communication about this. Will S6 resources always cost gold? Does this mean it will be easier to get S6 resources by other means?
Why this cost money
To get you to link up your credit card to your account to buy this for cheap, making it easier for you to spend money later, for gold.
hello xd
I turn my music and FX off so I don't know what anything sounds like. 🙉
._:
😆
Great job, mortis! 😄 It looks fast!
pink slip race
i did a thing
should I show that the others in TDCCS?
You turned your Rebel Racing car into a Top Drives card. 🤯
a
yep
hey hutch lank
my suggestion of the airport is a travel of the country of porshce and a porsche madnes no?
Still looks awesome! 👌🏻 Can I have one for free? 👀
a
sure thing
good idea no?
just send me a pic of your car
for porsche
it may take awhile as im making this from my phone
why did you even leave TDCCS?
yeah go ahead
uh to keep it simple, i wasnt treated fairly
oh
That's interesting! 😄 Maybe something to consider for a future update since this one just released!
a travel to Stuttgart, Alemania
the country of porshce
that is a new ticket for the airport no?
it could be
maybe?
yes but not now
oh yeah Ian, just ping me if you do send me a pic of your car
TVR Invasion
You get an airport ticket to Great Britain and drive races in different cars from TVR through Blackpool and it‘s beautiful landscape outside the town.
Yeah
I love that idea
Although I don’t know about the chameleon paint job on the tvr if the engine can handle it.
youre talking about the Sagaris?
A lot of car games can’t allow tvr into their game cause the engine limitations can’t make chameleon paint jobs
All tvr models
All tvr models have chameleon paint job types
oh i thought it was just the Sagaris
Yeah me too
iirc some mobile games already have them which in theory we could at some point have a chameleon paint
im bored, anyone want me to turn their Rebel Racing car into a Top Drives card?
@turbid heron 👀
ooh a 2017 GT
hmm that image is kinda tight to fit inside a card
let me test it
sadly that image doesnt fit
is it possible to get another image?
yep that will do
would you like it i use the real life stock stats for it?
or would you want me to upgrade the stats a bit
hello
Hi,how can i get to know about how i should build myself in this game!?
its hard to calculate the stats for rebel racing games ngl
it doesnt have any top speed or acceleration stats and it also doesnt have any speedometer
If you want to earn some easy money I suggest doing events, double payout, or ladder races.
Ello
I was about to say "Hutch placement"
until I realized this server is owned by Hutch
lmaoo
It looks great!!! Thanks so much. 😄
Thank you!
I don't know how
but I can hear the pain
wait this isn't the server I thought I would be
@tired path #🙊│off-topic
I already made a suggestion about TVR and take part in a giveaway to win the Mini
what else can I do now
🤔
🤔
guess I'll continue farming cash
this is definietly not enough if I get the Mini
man i want that 22B
I still regret buying the starter pack
why tho
I could've bought that Mini instead
le ouef
Is this game for p2p or f2p?
but it's not bad because I didn't knew something about the new event
depends
if you want to complete the entire game its P2P
What if i am f2p?
but it takes way longer than you think
well youre gonna grind a lot
How long?
the Mini is the key to finish Tier D
mini do be paid
@teal ibex depending on how many events with fusion credits appear
Can i get some starter tips?
75 fusion credits is enough to get the Mini 3 dtar
@teal ibex just farm cash, if you don't want to waste your time, play through campaign without getting the boss cars
howd you get 100k cash?
farming
ugh im still getting used to typing on this phone
it took me 2 days
what mode?
im gonna hold off on the last race of Tier C
im hoping support can add the cars from my broken account
Should i go through with a nfs type strategy?
nfs?
Need for speed series!?
how does that work on this game?
General strategy go with the best!
isnt that basically any games strategy though
Played nfs no limits...so this one is similar!
uh i do play no limits too but i dont see any similiarities with this game
I think prolly i would just keep farming with my rank D car for gold !?
nfsnl dont have content locked behind paid cars and rr also dont have the same mechanism
uh ask samsung for that
im not an expert in farming in this game yet
Oh..but thank you for all help👍
no problemo
you can only get gold through ads when you left out the events
cash can be earned everywhere
I used 25 for the 2nd rookie cup
I need 5
I need a car
do you like need tips or something
Yes, of course
it ends tomorrow
ohh
Ok i am waiting
im going to sleep
Ima go mudding in my truck
So I went and purchased a bunch of Firebirds and Veyrons to use as future fusion food. Then I maxed one of the Veyrons at 4⭐ just to compare to my other
cars. And now I'm broke with in-game cash, lol.
E
Hello
So in resources Stage 6 back to gold to purchase, I missed that in the Update communications... sleight of hand 🤚, and twist of fate.....as I recall this happened back in June around the 17th or 30th... 2020, then it reverted back to in game cash.
Enjoying the update other than that though.. Thanks 🙏
I bought the Chiron & stuck it at the back of the garage for a later time. Still have about 3 million though. Looking forward to the Mclaren ladder tomorrow; I can finally get my A tier 570 off the ground with some FC.
out of interest, how long (if you remeber) did they use gold for S6 resources for?
i got this game becuase the offroad vehicles and then i saw they where real money then i deleted the game 🙂
Y'all what's up
😋
TVR Invasion
You get an airport ticket to Great Britain and drive races in different cars from TVR through Blackpool and it‘s beautiful landscape outside the town.
Since the airport exists in the game, this could (maybe) be one of the good ideas to introduce TVR (if you ever get the licenses for the brand and the town, at first it‘s just a suggestion).
If they add TVR, i will download the game again just to try to get then
but you will have to wait a long time
also I'm not sure if they'll do it
TVR would be great but idk if the chameleon paint jobs on the car can handle the engine
Hy
the Tuscan is an example of war technology and a sports car
bored
Stand-up comedy
no
I know a few comedians that are great
Trevor Noah
Gabriel Iglesias
And Hasan Minhaj
Well he is an Indian who is Muslim.
no wonder
Oh. Well then how about tomorrow
he/she might watched SMG4
🤔
He used to be good... until I got older
Ofcoarse
True
but it's fun to watch the series anyway
Well it is up to you
on the side I'm also watching their anime
Wait.. they have anime now?
watch actual anime
Meta Runner
actual anime is good
also why do I keep getting ghost pinged?
I Don't think I can call that anime
basically this
bruh
What?
yes
...
Oh hello there
Hello
I'm at 125k
still waiting to get my hands on the Mini
Good luck
How are you
Either way I wish you good luck
Good I guess
giveaway doesn't help
it ends after registration
wait
when I registrate just before registration ends, do I still get the same time to finish the event as when I join now?
Yay
If you guys want to see something interested ting #🙊│off-topic
I exist
Check out what I sent LOL
that was because of the conservation about the missing car details in peoples suggestions
name of car brand and model makes the car easier to find
still in Tier 
waiting to get my hands on a Mini
@static igloo please use the #🙊│off-topic channel for topics not related to rebel racing.
just buy one. And that subaru is tier B......
I can't afford it. I need 4 cent to be able to get it.
@wanton sorrel
ok. I'm guessing you're not old enough to have a bank account.....
I'm using Google survey to get money but I haven't got any survey for 1.5 months
I don't know what that means.
I'm at 1.05€
if Inget a survey and complete it I get 0.08€ minimum
and that's enough to buy the Mini
@wanton sorrel surveys are very rare these days
its hard for google too
@sullen shoal is that really a problem..
you also get less surveys?
what
Well according to my fon it is...
so i assume all the new cars will be expensive or pay to play
assuming is the reality, wait and see
plus the pay to play cars are more expensive
the off road starter was a buck this mini is 2
Ian said it, developement cost money
pay for it to play those event or keep to the free to play part
mobile gaming industry if 1€ cards existed
insert picture of futuristic town
yeah i'm fine with supporting the devs but i'm not much of a mobile gamer anymore
hello
Hi
Ok @past charm. Thank you
where are the rookie cups?
i thought it was starting today?
i thought it was open today?
For level 1-10. You’re level 11.
Hello I'm Nygel
@blissful void has been muted for 60 minutes.
Reason: no promoting other games
Oh, welcome to the Big Time! You'll find the h-2-h events won't be quite so easy!
I should invite my friends to play this game 👉👈
good idea
I think they should make an event called gold mine and it’s a ladder but with gold.
let's see how many will fail to get the boss car
today I got to 150k
<@&671744559226683403> someone is self-advertising over my pic
im just waiting for Support to reply
if they do add my cars from the other acc i could fuse
cool
ok
Auto unmuted @blissful void
Hi
Hi!
Hi
Dont understand why i was muted
I just asked if anyone plays another game, not even close to promoting it
did you ask it in this channel? @blissful void
Yeah i did tbh, i just said anyone play a game
But if thats not allowed then my bad
tip, ask it in #🙊│off-topic
How do I get banned from this
When
You want to be banned?
Nah
Well I can’t ban you but if you do something that leads to a ban do it
If you want to get banned
What do you need help with?
@tender cliff
For what
dont just ask for help, just straight up ask the question, none of us knows what youre asking for
