Motion controls proffie 2.2

[quick moat]

My motion controls aren't working and I need to learn proffie... help 😭

[brazen shard]

Which motion controls are you refering to? You mean gesture controls (swing on, twist on/off) or that motion (smoothswing) isn't working?

[quick moat]

Yeah exactly!

[brazen shard]

...which one? 😆

[quick moat]

All of them 😭

Smoothswing works though

[brazen shard]

Ok

[quick moat]

I just read gesture controls omfg

[brazen shard]

All good

[quick moat]

Alr alr

[brazen shard]

Do you have a config that's supposed to have them enabled that you're trying to use? Have you uploaded a config before?

Where are you at in the process, basically?

[quick moat]

First time man...

[brazen shard]

Gotcha. So you're wanting to add gesture controls, and right now you've just the configuration your board shipped with?

[quick moat]

Yeah precisely

[brazen shard]

Do you have an existing config file? Your saber installer/manufacturer should've included one on the SD card

[quick moat]

I think I found it

Hold on

Can you call or something?

I could share my screen

I am on my school laptop tho...

Idk if you can't program on chrome or sum 😭

[brazen shard]

If you're on ChromeOS that's an isssue.

[quick moat]

Fuck

Alr I'll try to get on my pc

Brb

[brazen shard]

You need macOS or Windows (or Linux) to be able to program a proffieboard

[quick moat]

Alr alr

Im on my mac

Starting up rn

Alr

I'm on it

[brazen shard]

Ok. So there's a couple ways to go about this.

In order to add gesture controls to your board you have to update the configuration and then upload/flash/apply it to your proffieboard.

[quick moat]

Okay okay

[brazen shard]

The original way of doing things is to download Arduino and a good text editor and edit things manually, and if you'd like to go that route you can take a look at these instructions here and here.

The "new" way of doing things would be to use a program called ProffieConfig that I created, which handles installing things and all the backend code stuff, so you just have to worry about the configuration.

Obviously I'm biased because I wrote it, but by the anecdotes of others it's a very useful tool to be able to sidestep a lot of the headaches people (especially new users) face using Arduino.

[quick moat]

So just

Download yours

[brazen shard]

I'd say it's certainly easier, yeah

[quick moat]

Downloading 🫡

I cant

It cant verify that it doesnt include malware or something

🙄

[brazen shard]

Yeah, that's because I don't pay for a Developer license to sign it. ||monies||

If you right click on it and select "Open" it'll let you open it

[quick moat]

Alr alr

Downloading dependensies

Dependencies

[brazen shard]

That'll take a few minutes nvm, I forgot not everyone has internet as slow as mine

[quick moat]

Create new config?

And it needs a name

[brazen shard]

Are you in the tutorial rn or did you skip it?

[quick moat]

😭 😭

[quick moat]

I didnt skip

But im not in a tutorial

I had to press add

So I pressed add

[brazen shard]

Right. the window that was open originally (where the "downloading dependencies" message was) should now have instructions

That's a general overview of all the app features though

For right now you can skip it

[quick moat]

Now Im confused

I have a thingy

And it just sais

''add''

I cant press anything else

[brazen shard]

I'm on a development version, so ignore the weirdness, but it should look roughly like this:

There should be a main window with instructions and the window with "Add"

[quick moat]

Oh wait

I fixed it

Somehow

Do I need to fix the introduction?

Ski

p

Jeez dyslexia hitting hard

Skip introduction

[brazen shard]

Yeah, go ahead and skip, I'll guide you through it

[quick moat]

Alr

[brazen shard]

Now just the window with "Add" should be open, yeah?

[quick moat]

yeah

And I can press more buttons

[brazen shard]

Indeed 😆

So now press Add

[quick moat]

😭

[brazen shard]

*and plug in your saber SD card if it's not plugged in already

[quick moat]

It was plugged already

So...

[brazen shard]

Should be able to switch the tab to "Import" and then click to browse for files

[quick moat]

Which onedo I import?

I cant import

The whole thing

[brazen shard]

If you've multiple, can you send a screenshot of them?

[quick moat]

How do I screenshot on mac...

😭

[brazen shard]

CMD+Shift+5

[brazen shard]

Ok, so what you're looking at right now are all your sound font folders

[quick moat]

Alr

[brazen shard]

If you scroll down you should see either a "config" folder (sometimes people put the config in there) or an actual config file you can select.

[quick moat]

Sd config?

[brazen shard]

Yeah

[brazen shard]

There. So LGT provides a few different versions of their config file. The number corresponds to blade length, and NoGes means "No Gestures"

So if you know your blade length, select the appropriate version. If you don't know your blade length, just choose 36. It's easy to change later 🙂

[quick moat]

I have 36 inch

Yeah

And the no gesture one?

Or

The other one

[brazen shard]

Either, I'll show you how to enable those features.

So it won't make much difference

[quick moat]

Edit selected configuration?

[brazen shard]

Indeed

[quick moat]

Alr

Now what? 😭

[brazen shard]

Sorry, had to look at somethign else.

Once you're at the editor, there's a few different pages

[quick moat]

Omg this actually looks kinda cool what?

[brazen shard]

The page you want to edit for gesture controls would be on the Prop File page

you can change pages with the drop down at the top (The one that says "General" in your screenshot)

[quick moat]

And then select all gesture control thingies

[brazen shard]

If you want them all, yeah 😆

[quick moat]

Swing on speed?

Whats that do?

[brazen shard]

For most settings in ProffieConfig, if you hover over them it'll give you a short description

[brazen shard]

That's a measurement of how fast you need to be swinging to trigger the ignition

[quick moat]

Ohhhhh

So 250 is what its at now

[brazen shard]

Yeah, that's the default. You can increase or decrease that once you get a feel for it. What sensitivity you want (and this goes in general) will depend on the saber and your own taste.

[quick moat]

Oh yeah

SICK

Force push sounds cool

ENABLE

What other cool things are in here?

[brazen shard]

Most of those (for lack of better term) "cool" features like gesture controls will be on the prop file page.

The other page you'll care a fair bit about will be the "Presets" page

That's where you add/remove fonts and change bladestyles

on the blade arrays page you can change your blade length (among other things)

[quick moat]

Okay

Lets say

Id buy a font rn

On kyberphonic or something

Can I add it on here?

[brazen shard]

Yep, so long as the font supports proffie. (I believe all of Kyperphonic's do)

[quick moat]

Yeah I thought so too

[brazen shard]

Whenever you add a font, there's two parts to it

[quick moat]

All of the fonts are blank?

''noname''

Apart from the last one

[brazen shard]

You have to add a preset for the font you want, and you have to actually copy the sound files to the SD card

[brazen shard]

It's not uncommon that configs don't properly name all their presets, so "noname" gets filled in (otherwise it'd look like an empty list, which is scary)

[quick moat]

Fair

[brazen shard]

The name is purely for your own reference though

it doesn't affect anything besides your ability to sift through it all

You can add names that are descriptive for yourself as you look through them

[quick moat]

Alr alr

But

When I press on

All of them

They're blank too?

Idk if they are

But they appear to be

[brazen shard]

Can you send a screenshot?

[quick moat]

OH NEVERMIND

I needed to press

blade 0

[brazen shard]

Ah, for the bladestyle, yes.

[quick moat]

And now theres a wall of text

[brazen shard]

😆

yep

that's the bladestyle

For bladestyles, you'll probably not want to make your own yet, I'd recommend Fett263's style library.

https://fett263.com/fett263-proffieOS7-style-library.html

[quick moat]

Notfound

[brazen shard]

Yeah... ofc I couldn't get the link right

There we go

[quick moat]

Yeah

That works

Uhm

[brazen shard]

I expect sensory overload at first...

[quick moat]

Well

YUP

Oh its just

The blade effect

[brazen shard]

Yeah

so you can go through there and tweak things to your liking, then once you're done you can "Get Style Code" and replace the wall of text in proffieconfig with that.

[quick moat]

Wait

What

[brazen shard]

If there's a style you wanted to replace

[quick moat]

Okay

Lets say

Im on the website

I see one I like

[quick moat]

Lmc

Which one do I lke

OH

VIDEO

Okay

So

It has

Default

And then

add option button

What is the difference

I dont get it

[brazen shard]

Which one?

[quick moat]

Ive been presing random buttons

Idk what to do

[brazen shard]

I see... I'll be completely honest it's been a minute since I've looked and and really used fett's site

He has videos at the top

[quick moat]

Just

[brazen shard]

They're long, but I believe they cover how to use things

[quick moat]

Go on kyberphonic then?

[brazen shard]

I can't be of much help there, sorry....

[brazen shard]

If you just want to use the bladestyle as it looks in the preview, you can just click the "Main Blade" version and then get the code. You don't need to change any of the options.

[quick moat]

Alr alr

Let mebuy on rq

[brazen shard]

Make it a good one 😛 (I jest, they're all good)

[quick moat]

Wait

When you buy it

Its just a download folder right?

Why'd I have to fill in my address and such?

[brazen shard]

No, you get a permalink to the download

[brazen shard]

billing

billing information typically needs address

Most sites just use the same info for billing and mailing

so you don't have to enter it twice

[quick moat]

Alr

Im buying 2

Its taking quite some time

Okay

I have the download links

And stuff

What now?

help 🥺

Okay no I need help

[brazen shard]

First things first... download 'em!

@quick moat Once you do that, send screenshots of what the font folders look like

[quick moat]

HELP

I GENUINLYHAVE NO IDEAWHAT IM DOIN

Im copying my old folder

From the sader

Now

Idk why

[brazen shard]

It's not a bad idea to backup your SD card first, yeah

[brazen shard]

You said you had the download links. Did you download the fonts?

[quick moat]

I think so

But

Okay yeah I found it

Its called metamorphoses

So theres a proffie folder

in that folder

And I copied that folder

And now I dont know what to do

Or do I

Copy the contents?

[brazen shard]

Go ahead and copy the proffie folder onto your SD card, and then rename it to whatever you want. If the font is metamorphosis, you can just name it that. Doesn't matter, your call

But yeah, before you do that, copy everything from your SD card to a folder on your computer

SD cards easily corrupt so you should always have a backup

[quick moat]

Okay

I got one I want to replace

Or do you

Not even replace

And just

Add it

[brazen shard]

Nope, just add it

[quick moat]

On the sd card

WOW

THATS SO COOL

[brazen shard]

And once you've copied it over, we can configure it on ProffieConfig

[quick moat]

Does order matter in the folder?

[brazen shard]

No

[quick moat]

Alr alr

Its on the sd card

[brazen shard]

The SD card really is just a big repository of all the available sound files

[quick moat]

Im gonna throw the other one on it now too

[brazen shard]

In the config you set which ones you want to use (and what order they're in)

[quick moat]

My other one

Doesnt say proffie or something

[brazen shard]

Looks like there's multiple fonts in that bundle

[quick moat]

OH

sick

ADD EM ALL

Do I add

The music folder?

Or that one not

And the readme thing

What do I add?

[brazen shard]

The readme is just for you to read... most of the time it's just font info, you don't need to copy it.

For the music folder, you can add it if you want. Entirely up to you. If you do add it though, the convention is to name it "tracks"

You can either add the music folder straight onto the SD card or you can add it onto the SD card inside your font folder

[quick moat]

what?

Okay

I

Forgot

Help

[brazen shard]

forgot what?

[quick moat]

Okay

All 3 fonts are added

Now

The music thing

How do i add that?

Copy and paste

Into a specific folder

Or just

onto the sd card entirely

There is a folder on the sd card

named

'tracks'

Copy it in there?

Or no

Paste

I meant paste

[brazen shard]

If there's already a tracks folder, copy all the contents of the _Music folder into it.

[quick moat]

Okay I did

[brazen shard]

No need to have mutliple folders for the same purpose

[quick moat]

What's next?

[brazen shard]

Now, open proffieconfig back up, and make sure you're on the Presets and Styles page

[quick moat]

Okay

Wait

its still open

[brazen shard]

Go ahead and add a new preset using the "+" at the bottom

[quick moat]

Do I need to save

My previous things?

Before doing this?

How do I save?

[brazen shard]

We'll be working in the same config

You can save with File->Save Config or with CMD+S

[quick moat]

No in the

ProffieConfig app

How do I save the things I changed there?

With the gesture controls

[brazen shard]

On macOS it's CMD+S

but

Same deal

File->Save 🙂

[quick moat]

ITS GONE

ALL OF A SUDDEN

[brazen shard]

wdym?

[quick moat]

Oh wait nvm

Its saved

i thikn

Idfk

Okay

What now

[brazen shard]

There's no good visual indicator for if it's saved (it's on the feature lisk, ik) but when you save, trust that it does.

[brazen shard]

Add a new preset with the plus button at the bottom of the presets page

[quick moat]

newpreset

Now

Yeah

[brazen shard]

Now, You'll do this for each font

The Font Directory should be the name of the folder

[quick moat]

I named it

To metamorphose

Whats font directory?

[brazen shard]

and the track file can either be blank, or can point to a specific file

[brazen shard]

Name of the folder

[quick moat]

Oh yeah

I see

To what do I name it?

OH

[brazen shard]

You should enter in the name of the folder you put on the SD card

[quick moat]

The name of the folder

On the sd ard

YEAH

[brazen shard]

You're basically matching things up now

yep!

[quick moat]

Exact name right?

Capital

Everything

[brazen shard]

Yep, it's case sensitive

[quick moat]

And track file?

[brazen shard]

And then for track if you want to use an audio file from the tracks folder, you can enter /tracks/ and then the name of the file.

or you can just leave it empty

It's optional

[quick moat]

i dont think this one came with a track

No

[brazen shard]

Well then for now you can leave it empty

Last thing is the bladestyle on the right

You can either get one of those from fett's site, as mentioned above, or just copy one from another preset.

ProffieConfig fills in a simple one though automatically

[quick moat]

But the one from kyberphonic?

Cant I copy that?

[brazen shard]

If there was a bladestyle included with your font, then certainly!

[quick moat]

Or is that not a thing

[brazen shard]

Most fonts don't come with a bladestyle

just audio files

[quick moat]

How would that thing be named?

config.ini?

[brazen shard]

depends. Generally it's in a text file with "style" in the name

[brazen shard]

No, that's configuration for the font to make sure the sounds play correctly

[quick moat]

thats in the metamorphose file

[brazen shard]

Yeah, that's just the normal font files, so that one doesn't seem to come with a bladestyle

[quick moat]

but it looked cool in the vid

I didnt pay for that???

😭

[brazen shard]

Unfortunately, no

[quick moat]

oh

[brazen shard]

I've watched the video though, and it's a fairly simple style

[quick moat]

Alr alr

[brazen shard]

Spending a bit of time with the fett style generator should allow you to make something similar

[quick moat]

😐

[brazen shard]

styles are without a doubt the trickiest part. They take some time to learn

[quick moat]

I selected a random effect on fett263

Its pretty much the same

[brazen shard]

😆 that works

[quick moat]

Hold on

Its not the same in the builder thing

Okay nvm

I recreated it

Kindof

Idk

[brazen shard]

Well, try it and if you don't like it, you can always change em 🙂

[quick moat]

idk what Im doing

Its copied to my clipboard

[brazen shard]

Perfect

So then go into ProffieConfig

delete the whole bladestyle that's in the box right now

then CMD+V to paste the fett style in

[quick moat]

Okay

And that's it?

[brazen shard]

Yep, pretty much

Just creating a new preset for each font you want to add

Once you're done configuring:

• Save
• Close the editor
• Plug in your proffieboard (via micro USB)
• Click "Refresh Boards"
• Click "Apply"
• Wait a bit
• profit

[quick moat]

When I select a given one from fett's site

it gives me the one I made before

For instance

He has the ronin one

prebuilt

Pretty muhc

And I wanna use it

But I cant

Copy it

How do I get that specfic one

From his video

This one

https://youtu.be/pcUhuoea-WM

But when I press 'main blade'

It gives me the one I previously made

[brazen shard]

That would be a bug

https://crucible.hubbe.net/t/proffieos7-style-library-phase-2-public-access-q-a-thread/5033

Post about it here and fett should get to it and fix it

[quick moat]

Maybe just restart the thing

[brazen shard]

Yeah, not sure. A hard refresh might work

[quick moat]

Can you give me the link again?

[brazen shard]

https://fett263.com/fett263-proffieOS7-style-library.html#fett263

[quick moat]

Thx

This saber

Doesnt look like the one on the vid

Wth

Its just the basic thing

[brazen shard]

I know fett was migrating things around the other day

[quick moat]

Does it work with you?

[brazen shard]

maybe stuff broke

No, I'm seeing the same issues you are

[quick moat]

😔

Okay but

Wait

From the 4 folders we started with

I only edited one

Is that a problem?

and if I just

Leave it for now

Come back tomorrow

Save it

It should work right?

[brazen shard]

You mean only created a preset for one?

That's fine

You can have all sorts of folders on the SD card you don't use

and as long as the config is just on your computer, it won't do anything to the board

[quick moat]

Ah okay

So i saved it

I close it

It sais

unsaved changes will be lost

[brazen shard]

so yeah, save it, maybe post about your issue, and then come back another time 🙂

[quick moat]

I can just

Close it?

And it'll be fine?

[brazen shard]

Yeah. In that version there's not a way to know if you saved it or not, so I just always warn to make sure you save first

[quick moat]

OKay

[brazen shard]

(As in, the app doesn't know if you saved, so it just always reminds you)

[quick moat]

Eject the sd card

And I'm good

[brazen shard]

[quick moat]

I cant find the eject button

HELP

HOW DO I EJECT IT

I DONT WANNA LOSE

EVERYTHING

[brazen shard]

right click

eject

[quick moat]

Yeah

I cant find it

When right clicking

Its not there

Where is it supposed to be when I right click?

[brazen shard]

Somethng like that

[quick moat]

I found it

It dOesnt work

Nothing does

Gestire controls

Nothing

Wtf

[brazen shard]

Oh, I didn't realize you wanted to use it

In that case you've got to actually apply the config to the board

Saving it just saves it on the computer

it doesn't change anything on the board itself

[quick moat]

Ohhh

How do I put em on

[brazen shard]

Plug in the board via USB and hit "Apply config to board"

[quick moat]

What?

[brazen shard]

You've saved the sound files to the SD card, so now you need to save the configuration to the board

One sec

[quick moat]

How...?

What

Is this the thing thay you need to do with a data cable?

Or is this also possible via sd card

[brazen shard]

Once you plug in the board, click "Refresh" and then you can choose the board from the drop down

it'll just be a random string, but you can

Then you click "Apply"

[brazen shard]

The sd card just stores files. You have to plug in the board to update the config

[quick moat]

Idk if I have a data cable on me...

And I dont wanna fry the boatd

[brazen shard]

That's the biggest misinformation spread in the hobby I think

Using a non-data cable won't fry the board

it simply won't do anything

So don't be afraid to try a cable and see

[quick moat]

Im afraid 😭

Ill just order one online

No biggy

[daring junco]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-wise-smart-advice-fearleadstoanger-gif-3043702211399943131

You're in good hands, my dude. @brazen shard knows what he's doing.

[quick moat]

Okay

Ill try

We dont even have micro usb cables

😭

I orderred one

[quick moat]

Alr alr

I got the cable

And does the website work again btw?

But I have the cable

[quick moat]

@brazen shard I have the cable, but now what do I do? Also, do I keep the battery in the hilt when I plug it in the board or do I take it out?

[quick moat]

I changed the bladestyles btw

that's done

I DID IT

[brazen shard]

You successfully uploaded?!

[brazen shard]

Doesn’t matter 🙂

[quick moat]

I got the hang of things

Still dont know everything, but I know most stuff

Thanks for the help brodie

👍

Buuuuut

My lightsaber doesnt have a killswitch

And

Preferebly

I'd want one

And idk how to program it on there 😭

[brazen shard]

Excellent! Lmk if you need help in the future.

[brazen shard]

A kill switch is a physical switch to cut power to the board. It's not something that can be programmed, and it's not something that needs programming if it's there.

[quick moat]

Yeah that's the problem

It's not there

So I'm just taking the battery out

But yeah

I thought you could program it on the button or somethin

[brazen shard]

No, if you don't have one then just taking the battery out is the way to go. Do note though, you only need to completely cut power if you're storing it for large periods of time.

The board has a sleep functionality that shouldn't drain much power

just sleeps while idle

On the General page of ProffieConfig you can set those timeouts.

[quick moat]

But

I left it 'off' over night

I pressed the button

And it immidiately turned on

Is that still sleep?

I thought that was idle

[brazen shard]

That's asleep

As asleep as it gets at least.

But still, it really shouldn't drain much power