what sort of help are you looking for? if that's the case, you'll probably have to rewire to different led pins
#hello, I was wondering if any one would be able to help me with my proffie 2.2 board?
steep oxide
quartz edge
is it possible for us to chat in the general voice channel
i am not a good typist
but to answer your question, i did rewire it to LED Pad 4 and 5 and also edited my config file to use 4 and 5, and that disnt work
but dont fret too much i did already order a new proffie board
steep oxide
hm. can you post the config?
steep oxide
you said you're on led pins 4 and 5?
steep oxide
why 10? pretty sure that should be 4?
quartz edge
but i know is should have been 4 and 5
steep oxide
if you upload it as 4, does it light?
steep oxide
best thing i can think of without more info on the damage is to try to use a different data pin and see if that does anything
do you have a multimeter?
quartz edge
yes
but i have to wire my proffie board back in because i took it out so that i cauld just drop in the new one once i got it
steep oxide
you might be better off just waiting for the new one
quartz edge
also are you able to voice chat
steep oxide
i'm not at a spot where i can, but maybe someone else can pop in to help over voice
quartz edge
no problem, but can you still help me with my old board, im going to disney and i wanna bring my saber, and i might not get my new board in time
steep oxide
if you're willing to try to wire it, then i would try with a different data pin
quartz edge
it will only take me a couple of minutes to wire it back in
ill let you know when im done
quartz edge
all done
ready to start testing
LEd Ground is bridged on 4 and 5
and Data pin is Set to Data 2
steep oxide
you uploaded the new config?
quartz edge
no not yet, what do you want me to change
quartz edge
0, WS281XBladePtr<132, bladePin, Color8::GRB, PowerPINS<bladePowerPin4, bladePowerPin5> >(),
which one do i change
quartz edge
{ 0, WS281XBladePtr<132, bladePin2, Color8::GRB, PowerPINS<bladePowerPin4, bladePowerPin5> >(),
like this
steep oxide
i believe it's blade2Pin according to that link
quartz edge
not yyet
steep oxide
i would use your multimeter to see if you're getting power in the led pins
quartz edge
it dosen't look like i am
steep oxide
i'd guess the damage is probably a little more extensive then
are you reading power on any of the led pins?
quartz edge
i didnt llok like i was
steep oxide
i put a call in wip, maybe someone can think of something that i haven't
quartz edge
i checked again and got 3.5v on LED 1, which was what i configured in the config
steep oxide
wait so post the last config you uploaded
quartz edge
quartz edge
no i have it wired to LED 1 now
steep oxide
and it still doesn't light?
quartz edge
nope
steep oxide
guessing you don't have another blade to test on?
quartz edge
i tested the blade on another Saber and it works fine
steep oxide
is there power going to the data pin?
quartz edge
ill check
it is configured for Data pin 2 and LED pin 1
and it is wired to Data Pin 2 and LED 1
just so we are on the Same page
i got 3.3v on data 2
steep oxide
oh i thought you had wired to pins 4 and 5
steep oxide
is there power on the pins of the hilt side blade pcb?
quartz edge
ill check which pin is positive and negative
round shuttle
outer ring pins should be positive.
quartz edge
also they have LEDs on it and thay dont light up either
and which ones are negative and Data
round shuttle
in terms of a pixel adapter, outer ring positive, inner ring negative, center data
steep oxide
well the leds on there need to be programmed. if those aren't part of your config, i wouldn't expect them to light
quartz edge
they did before
round shuttle
but yeah Octanis is right, if the pixels on the board are wired separately they won't light unless configured to, also assuming they are physically wired.
quartz edge
round shuttle
from what I'm seeing wiring wise, I only see 3 wires which means the on board LEDs should be mirroring main blade data.
round shuttle
hmm. Ok, so if I am understanding correctly, you are getting sound and such but no actual light?
quartz edge
yup
round shuttle
hm. Can you see any physical damage to the MOSFETs on the board?
these, there are 6 total, 3 on top and 3 on bottom.
quartz edge
there is damage on one
originally i was useing mosfet 2,3
and blew that one up when i put the battery in backwards
round shuttle
ok, so you have already swapped the lines to different LED pads then? (still trying to catch up on what's been tried)
quartz edge
yes
round shuttle
what are they hooked into currently? 3,4?
steep oxide
he's on 1 rn
quartz edge
i just did a contonuity test on theh +,- and data pins from the proffie to the Bade PCB
and didnt get contonuity on the Data pin in the center
round shuttle
hmm. if that's the case try checking the solder joints from data1 and the pixel adapter data. See if there is a break.
quartz edge
my solder joint look good
round shuttle
check the continuity from the joints themselves, see if the wire is good.
round shuttle
no, check the on board resistor for the PCB.
should read a resistance of 330 Ohm or 470 Ohm.
if that resistor is good, then yeah it's likely a dead PCB, but I would rule out that resistor being dead first.
round shuttle
ok, so both are reading correct. What about data pad to data pin continuity?
quartz edge
no
round shuttle
shoot, that sounds like there is a physical break somewhere. if the resistors are showing the correct reading (yes, that falls into the 330 ohm range) and the wire and joints seem good then yeah, PCB might be dead. could always totally clean off the pads, new wire and new fresh joints to fully rule it out, but yeah, seems the PCB has physically broken.
steep oxide
time to get a 2nd hilt 😉
quartz edge
alredy do
I have Asoka Tano's hilts from the MAdalirean
wow i spelled that incorectly
steep oxide
ready for your next install then!
quartz edge
they alredy ahve installs in them
but your right i could always get a Dark saber Hilt
do you know what kind of blade PCB i have
cant seem to find it
round shuttle
I had someone send me a spare proffie with their commission once because they had no need for it.
round shuttle
do you know what kind of blade PCB i have
no need to find the exact one, they are all the same size and layout, or at least should be.
quartz edge
yea but mine had LEDs on it
round shuttle
but, this is it I think: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1118273962/shtokcustomworx-npxl-v3-shortpin-pcb
round shuttle
yea but mine had LEDs on it
so do a lot of others these days.
steep oxide
smugglers outpost also tends to ship really fast
not sure if he does on weekends or not, but
quartz edge
cool
steep oxide
i've always gotten it quick
quartz edge
i have 12 days till disney
round shuttle
same. Only ones quicker is TCSS, but that's because I'm closer to em.
steep oxide
you're in the lower 48?
quartz edge
yup
steep oxide
i would guess it would probably show up in time
round shuttle
yeah. Could always leave a note on the order, Albert is a pretty cool guy so if he knows there's a semi-rushed deadline to get it.
quartz edge
thanks alot guys for helping me find my issue
steep oxide
raven did most of the hard stuff
round shuttle
all I did was isolation of what could be a possible reason with the hardware. tbh there are more steps but would require using known working data to test the PCB aside from the proffie in that saber.
quartz edge
heyy guys i got the new blade PCB and it Still not working
I have No idea what i doing wrong
is anybody able to help
steep oxide
i'm about to go to bed, but if you ping me in 8-9 hours i can try
quartz edge
cool if i remember
round shuttle
Ok @quartz edge, caffinated. So, placing in a new pixel adapter still isn't working?
quartz edge
yup
round shuttle
ok, can you show me the soldering of the wires on the PCB?
quartz edge
and I check how I wired it with my other saber which is exactly the same ( all the parts are exactly the same
not at the moment, i ordered a new Proffie v3.9 on amazon and it should be here on saturday
gonna re wire it completley
round shuttle
hmm. Well, you could try putting the main blade data line on another data pad and update the config accordingly.
quartz edge
bit i had the signal wire going to data2 ground to the negative pad and positive from theh battery positive termanal to the positive pad
youp
yup
round shuttle
hang on, can I see the config you have flashed at the moment?
quartz edge
on the blade PCB there are 2 data pins
one is for the led on the PCB and the other goes directly to the center pin
shure
round shuttle
... Well, no hang on. There's technically 1 data pad on the pixel adapter PCB, and in normal config you only have one data line going to that pad. in this configuration there's 2 resistors in place and the LEDs on the PCB will mirror the blade. In v4 config one of the resistors is removed, the secondary data that controls the LEDs on the PCB is connected via tha pad and then the center pin is connected to the main blade data line.
and looking at the config you have, only data signal will be going to data1 pin. if you have the PCB connected to data 2, nothing will happen.
quartz edge
it was connected to the proffie on data pin 1
round shuttle
bit i had the signal wire going to data2 ground to the negative pad and positive...
then explain this sentence.
quartz edge
this was for the connectiond on the pixel board not the proffie
round shuttle
I need a pic of how it's wired, I don't think we are on the same page here.
quartz edge
the signal pin from data pin 1 on the proffie was connected to data pin 2 on the pixel board, blade power pin 4 and 5 to the - on the pixel board nad + from the battery to the + pins on the pixel board
round shuttle
Ah, I see, I forget the pad is labeled D2.
round shuttle
Well, you could try wiring in the PCB to data 2 on the proffie and altering the blade array in the config so the main blade data is going to pin 2, see if it's the data1 pad on the proffie that is dead.
quartz edge
the funny thing is my other saber is an exact copy of the saber im trying to fix and i compared the 2 and all the wireing is the same
I have already done that, still no go
round shuttle
hmm.
quartz edge
yea, thats why im so confused and frustrated
cuzz what im doing should work but its not
round shuttle
yeah.
round shuttle
no, shouldn't be. Assuming things are physically wired correctly the config I saw should be working and causing the on board pixels to light up.
quartz edge
thenthere must be something wrong with my Proffie
kinda wierd that my speaker works and all my effects work
just noth the LEDs
round shuttle
yeah, I mean assuming we've eliminated any other possibilities, though having both the data 1 and data 2 pads not working. (this is also assuming the config update to switch the data pin was flashed correctly).
quartz edge
just to make absoultly shure whats the peoper prosedure to update the config
round shuttle
Well, the normal way is you alter the config file, make sure it's in the config folder for proffieOS and make sure the ino file is using that config in arduino then you flash from there by clicking upload when the board is connected via USB cable.
quartz edge
I didnt do that, all I did was edit the Config.h file saved it then put the SD card back in
but i didnt change any file names
quartz edge
ok so i was doing it wrong
round shuttle
there's also all in one software that makes the process easier. hang on.
quartz edge
cool
round shuttle
with this one, all you need to do is import your config file, then you can alter and upload all from the same software.
quartz edge
Guess im going to have redo all the software for this board
since i dont have the original ino file anymore
quartz edge
cool thanks alot i think i got it from here, looks like i was missing a step
round shuttle
glad we got it figured out. Lemme know if you have questions about the ProffieConfig software.
quartz edge
i will, just one more queestion, shuld i try this out now or just wait until i get the the V3.9 board
round shuttle
I would go ahead and try it now, that way you learn the software and process while you wait. Keep in mind, you will need to update the config file to say it's a v3 board (easy to do in the software) and also double check the pinout map for the v3.9 board. There are some things that have been moved around from the v2.2 board.
quartz edge
I will, i come from a 3d Printing background, i never blindly swap boards without using a pin out diagram, i know things change with different revisions of boards, (lets just say I learned the Hard way when i was younger)
quartz edge
well gonna go to bed, havent slept yet was up all night 3d modeling a new Chasis for this saber, so that i didn't have to spend another 75 bucks for a 2$ piece of plastic from goth3 Designs, that i could make at home on my 3d printer
round shuttle
sounds like why I learned to make chassis.
well, it also comes in handy for commissions.
round shuttle
yeah, these days he does for sure.
quartz edge
all of his Chasis should be like 15 bucks max
especially for the FDM versions
if it was SLA of SLS i could understand the price but Not for FDM
round shuttle
yeah, I think he has em that high because in the past others would buy the STL then distribute it without his permission or paying him for it, so yeah.
Honestly, I could get the high price if it was direct custom commissions and you were paying for the design time, but in this case.... not so much.
quartz edge
in my opinion, don't sell the STLs, and sell the prints only, at a fair price
and only sell the STL to a buisness partner and get commision from what he sells
well nice chating with you gonnna go to bed
quartz edge
heyy having an issue with my proffie os config\
round shuttle
sup.
quartz edge
heyy i got ProffieOS v7.14 installed on my hilt created a Configfile (with Fett263 config tool) but my sound is not working liiks like my LED are working
and i have everything wired up correctly
round shuttle
ok, how did you upload the config to the proffieboard?
round shuttle
looks like it's correct, did you see a progress bar for the upload or did it only count to 10?
quartz edge
one sec ill try to upload the code again and see
c:/users/sergi/appdata/local/arduino15/packages/proffieboard/tools/arm-none-eabi-gcc/9-2020-q2-update/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/9.3.1/../../../../arm-none-eabi/bin/ld.exe:C:\Users\sergi\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\proffieboard\hardware\stm32l4\3.6\variants\STM32L452RE-ProffieboardV3/linker_scripts/STM32L452RE_FLASH.ld:224: warning: memory region `SRAM2' not declared
c:/users/sergi/appdata/local/arduino15/packages/proffieboard/tools/arm-none-eabi-gcc/9-2020-q2-update/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/9.3.1/../../../../arm-none-eabi/bin/ld.exe: warning: changing start of section .bss by 24 bytes
c:/users/sergi/appdata/local/arduino15/packages/proffieboard/tools/arm-none-eabi-gcc/9-2020-q2-update/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/9.3.1/../../../../arm-none-eabi/bin/ld.exe: warning: changing start of section .bss by 24 bytes
c:/users/sergi/appdata/local/arduino15/packages/proffieboard/tools/arm-none-eabi-gcc/9-2020-q2-update/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/9.3.1/../../../../arm-none-eabi/bin/ld.exe: warning: changing start of section .bss by 24 bytes
c:/users/sergi/appdata/local/arduino15/packages/proffieboard/tools/arm-none-eabi-gcc/9-2020-q2-update/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/9.3.1/../../../../arm-none-eabi/bin/ld.exe: warning: changing start of section .bss by 24 bytes
c:/users/sergi/appdata/local/arduino15/packages/proffieboard/tools/arm-none-eabi-gcc/9-2020-q2-update/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/9.3.1/../../../../arm-none-eabi/bin/ld.exe: warning: changing start of section .bss by 24 bytes
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round shuttle
so yeah, if it counts to 10 like that, the upload didn't work.
quartz edge
this is what I get but a pop up says its done uploading
round shuttle
you need to make sure that when the USB cable is connected to the board that you have the port and board selected in the Arduino 'Tools' dropdown menu.
round shuttle
Not technically.
but if the process is working it should look like this when uploading:
round shuttle
does this show as connected?
round shuttle
Ok, just to make sure you have the USB Type set to Serial + Mass Storage + WebUSB, DOSFS to SDCARD(SPI, CPU Speed to 90MHz, Optimized to 'smallest code'?
under the 'Tools' menu.
quartz edge
i have that but SDCARD (SDIO Speed Hig), and CPU Speed is Set to 80 not 90, (there is no option for 90
round shuttle
gah, I meant 80.
quartz edge
then everything is set correctly
topaz tundra
what do you think is the problem
Can you open the Serial Monitor and connect?
quartz edge
how do i do that
round shuttle
Ry, wasn't there an issue with proffie and the latest IDE version? Seem to remember something about that.
topaz tundra
Yesn't, it wasn't a connection thing like this
quartz edge
looks like i can
topaz tundra
You see the "Welcome to ProffieOS"?
quartz edge
no
topaz tundra
screenshot?
quartz edge
but it giving me batttery voltage
quartz edge
and a couple of web links
topaz tundra
did you run proffie-dfu-setup.exe?
topaz tundra
same difference, so long as you used Zadig correctly
Do you have any software currently running in the background like Cura?
round shuttle
though zadig is the old way of doing things. Didn't I link the POD as well as ProffieConfig?
round shuttle
https://pod.hubbe.net/proffieboard-setup.html
yep, I did.
topaz tundra
ProffieConfig'd run the dfu setup to make sure that's all setup correctly
quartz edge
the proffie config was alittle confusing form me
so i used a youtube vid
and used fett263's configurator on hus site
round shuttle
you can just import that file to ProffieConfig and upload it from there.
quartz edge
ok ill try that
topaz tundra
the proffie config was alittle confusing form me
If I may ask: how so?
round shuttle
^ the creator of ProffieConfig, so feedback will help.
quartz edge
I selected an editing option and it was saying i needed to in cluse (Enable all Edditing Options) and i couldent find it then i asked raven and still had no idea whre to go for that and it kept faling the config check saying i didnt enable it
Also i mean no offence
topaz tundra
Also i mean no offence
Oh, you're completely fine, I'm all for feedback
quartz edge
how do i do this proffie - dfu -config
topaz tundra
I selected an editing option and it was saying i needed to in cluse (Enable all ...
This is a thing with the fett263 prop that I think I'll change some things around to avoid this issue in the future.
In the General page of ProffieConfig you'll want to add ENABLE_ALL_EDIT_OPTIONS to the "Custom Options..." window, like so (ignore the others that are there)
If you imported the file it should be there already (assuming the file came from the fett configurator)
topaz tundra
how do i do this proffie - dfu -config
If you have ProffieConfig installed it should have run already, otherwise I can find the download link for just proffie-dfu-setup.exe
round shuttle
bottom of this page under OS specific setup: https://pod.hubbe.net/proffieboard-setup.html
round shuttle
quartz edge
my booard is noot showing up on the board list on com& only bootloader recovery
topaz tundra
did you hit "Refresh..."?
topaz tundra
Well that'd be an issue
Well, is it in bootloader? (You did say you put it in bootloader earlier)
quartz edge
is it because arduino ide is useing it
topaz tundra
No, it won't prevent that from working
You can try closing arduino but it shouldn't matter.
(ProffieConfig actually communicates w/ Arduino under the hood, so if Arduino sees it it'd be very weird that ProffieConfig doesn't)
topaz tundra
Yeah, can go to File->Re-Run First-Time setup from the ProffieConfig main menu
That'll run the dfu setup (on the Dependency Installation page)
quartz edge
got it noe on com 7
i guess i should enable mass storage and webUSB
what does editing mode do
round shuttle
enables things like volume control, blade color change, some altering of things like blade pixel count and such without needing to upload a new config.
quartz edge
whats the difference between edit mode and edit settings
round shuttle
Edit settings limits the options to I think volume and color editing. This is covered on the prop info on Fetts site.
topaz tundra
whats the difference between edit mode and edit settings
Hover over the options 😉
Should give you an explanation
Although those are actually a bit lackluster, aren't they
quartz edge
tried to verrify config
got this error message
Setting menu cannot be combined with settings mode
how do i fix that
neverminde it was in the custom defines
topaz tundra
neverminde it was in the custom defines
Can you tell me what was in the custom defines exactly real quick?
quartz edge
extra color buffer space
enable all edit options
no repeat random
color change direct
topaz tundra
and one of those caused an issue?
quartz edge
no only the enable edit settings, but i removed it because i want enable edit mode and they cant be used together
topaz tundra
So EDIT_SETTINGS was in custom defines and you had Edit Mode selected on the prop page?
quartz edge
yes
topaz tundra
Ah, ok
quartz edge
i guess all i have to do now is applie selected config to the board
does this also install proffie os
topaz tundra
Yep!
quartz edge
ok cool
wow that was alot easier than i expected
might want to add where you add that enable all editing option in the description of edit settings and edit mode
and i can also use this to add more sound fonts to the saber and other sabers
topaz tundra
might want to add where you add that enable all editing option in the descriptio...
Yeah, rn those descriptions are just pulled from fett's prop explanations, it'd be worth it for me to go back through and make clarifications like that, thanks for the feedback 🙂
quartz edge
my sound isnt working though
topaz tundra
No sound at all or are you getting an error message?
round shuttle
if it's no sound at all, double check your speaker wiring.
round shuttle
are you sure it's on the correct pads?
topaz tundra
no sound at all
Are you getting lights and everything else?
round shuttle
quartz edge
yup did a continuity test to spkr+ and spkr -
round shuttle
so you checked continuity from Spkr+ to the tab on the actual speaker and same for Spkr -? And then also made sure there isn't a short between the 2 pads?
quartz edge
yea thats what i did
round shuttle
so I assume no beep when checking. Hmm. Normally i would try a different speaker but that isn't an option most have on hand.
(looks at his 30 speakers laying around)
round shuttle
what about using the Ohm setting on the speaker pads? What is the reading?
round shuttle
ok, that means there might be a short, you should be seeing close to the Ohm rating of the speaker.
topaz tundra
might want to add where you add that enable all editing option in the descriptio...
Enable Edit Mode Menu System (Advanced on-the-fly saber controls, includes everything from Edit Settings)
Requires ENABLE_ALL_EDIT_OPTIONS in Custom Options (General Page)
Enable Edit Settings Menu (Volume, Clash Threshold, Blade Length, Gestures/Controls, Brightness)
Requires ENABLE_ALL_EDIT_OPTIONS in Custom Options (General Page)"
Something like that instead?
topaz tundra
ok, that means there might be a short, you should be seeing close to the Ohm rat...
or a blown/damaged speaker, potentially
but it's very possible you shorted the pins to the speaker casing
since it's all so close together
round shuttle
indeed, might as well rule that out first before jumping to the dead speaker route.
topaz tundra
Yeah, in which case my first suggestion would be to check the housing, makes sure the wires don't touch the back
round shuttle
yeah, really easy to short out on the metal back of the speaker with the tabs that close.
quartz edge
yea speaker died
swaped adiiferent one in from a different saber
gonna see if i can repair it
but it works
YAY
topaz tundra
#electronics-and-sound message
That EDIT_SETTINGS in the custom options ended up being a little typo for the fett prop page too, so thanks for bringing attention to that 🙂
quartz edge
no problem
quartz edge
heyy I just brought my speaker back from the dead
quartz edge
to be quite hones i think there was a broken wire from the cone coil to the negative speaker post
all i did was take the speaker apart from the magnet and making shure i didnt puncture or tear the woofer and re-soldered a tine wire from the speaker coil to the negative post and put it back together
topaz tundra
Huh, interesting, glad to hear you got it fixed!!
quartz edge
and it worked
topaz tundra
A Successful Surgery