#queer chat
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They are all up in arms because in their mind they assume someone has a penis/vagina and feel the need to use a certain word towards them. It's just...dumb and childish.
Ohh, I thought you were meaning the people being misgendered. Because I get that it can be hurtful towards them, especially with how people act about it.
Nono I was mocking people who refuse to use preferred pronouns
I got you now haha
All cool
I had an interesting chat with my partner about genitalia and sexuality. All that jazz
We’re a t4t couple. I’m transmasc and they’re transfemme
That's honestly really sweet. You both are wanting to be the opposite of what you were born so you're basically a perfect match haha.
I had a moment of questioning myself because I love them and all but I felt bad because maybe I just liked them for their genitals
And it turned into a whole chat about how my loving them and my liking penises where not connected at all. Like all that doesn’t matter
I was going to say something but then I remembered this is a server that has some furries and not a furry server so I'm like "No, wait, this isn't the place" lmfao
I got "lucky" I guess in regards to sexuality and gender where I'm a gay dude and I just don't give a fuck lmao
Ehhhhh
I've been in some that are literally that and...it's a much different vibe lmao
i'm sure
Though not necessarily the autistic part, but most furries at least act on the spectrum so lmao
just saying these are very common things here
I’m in a furry server but the last autistic one I was in was full of babies
I’m 30 so I’m too old for everyone
I've been in a number of autistic servers as well as a queer autistic server and tbf I had some issues. they ended up being very drama-prone and there wasn't a lot bringing people together other than the shared difficulties of having that identity
this can be a problem too, they skew very young
That's basically most furry servers haha
I'm 34 :p
what I like about this server is it has a big ND and queer presence but it's focused on a shared interest
so it's not just venting all the time
Yeah, and with it being somewhat specific it's not surprising that it draws in the hyperfocused aspies and autists haha
yup
I have never met an autistic person who didn't love at least one kind of animal, as well
When I talked to my therapist about a lot of stuff yesterday near the end I asked her thoughts on it. Like if she thought I could be on to something or if the ASD thing was just way off base. And she's thinking it's a plausible explanation. But there are symptoms that are shared with other things, so I want to talk about that a bit more next time to see what can be ruled out.
Apparently a full psych eval is now near $3000 so...fuck all of that lol.
that sounds like good stuff to talk about. I'm glad she knows about this stuff because yeah talking to her about it sounds like a much better option than a full eval
you pay all that much money and then get discriminated against for it
There's no benefit to a pscyh eval for me. I don't need disability or drugs lol.
Listen I’d love to hang out with more my age queers
Any situtation I could find myself in where I might need a little bit of accommodation they would be just fine with me saying "I have ASD" I don't need to prove it.
YOU DID A SWEAR
Oh fuck you
lmao
i looked for queer 18+ servers but couldn't find any that were mostly social. rather than existing for the dissemination of explicit materials
how's that, dyno?
I’m in one 30+ server that’s like a handful of chill people popping in once in a while
that sounds nice! I do think older servers tend to be less active because less terminally online
kids will say that any server where the chat stops moving for 10 minutes is 'dead'
lmao
Yeah. To be expected
I’m in a horror specific server that is “dead” in general all the time and people don’t check other channels
So they leave before they meet us
I can DM a link if you want
i'm in as many servers as i can handle atm, ty though!
what are your favorite horror movies?
I'm only in this one and a math one haha
Ooo gotta think about that 🤔
Top 5 no specific order
-Alien
-Terrifier
-Nightmare on Elm Street
-Saw
-The Conjuring
Wdym? As gender currently stands it’s more of a world that you kind of orbit but may not actually have anything to do with. Like there are fully feminine men who are men and fully masculine woman who are women.
And if you don’t feel as if you fit into one of the two main orbits then your gender is essentially just a vibe. It’s really not a useful concept, it tells you very little about someone.
All things being equal, frog gender is just as valid as man, same with any other gender identity (even the helicopter)
Maybe it has something to do with me being pan where gender and genitals doesn’t even matters half as much someone’s personality
Im not sure what I was really thinking there but I agree with your train of thought
I’m pan too 
I’ve never understood the people who try so hard to stay ‘within the lines’ of their sexually. You’ll see it mostly with straight people and mostly with men. Like you’ll see it a lot where people ask “is liking [thing] gay”, it was femboys, it was trans women, it’s been several things but the main idea is that in order to remain straight it has to be not gay. Like stfu, like what you like
🍳 yea
I imagine toxic masculinity has quite the part to play with all that
Like I remember some men in my family referred to as “metrosexual” because they actually cared about their appearance and were straight
i know a guy who can't say anything positive about another guy without adding "no homo"
🙄
The homoeroticism is for spice
He's in the closet.
I will say without evidence and stand by this that people like that are insecure about their own sexuality.
They had gay thoughts, and they don't like it.
i agree. he also talks about how he doesn't have sex with women anymore because he got bored of it
lmao
cmon dyno
it's the queer chat
diq
It def does happen
If I knew that boys could be trans too, I’d have put words to that years ago
Ayyy
I got muted for talking about penises in a fowl manner
out of jail

i do agree that he wants some diq
like i think people can overstate the "homophobes are closet gays" thing, but if somebody's obsessed with showing that they aren't gay
they're probably hiding something
I put in a suggestion to get rid of it lol
Unfortunately they may not be hiding just for “uncoolness”
yes he lives in russia
that's why i give him leeway and try to have sympathy for his situation
oh my gooood that game
i didn't finish but i played like 30 hours of it, some of it in VR
💀
it's so stressful but a really good adaptation
My partner did it on hardest difficulty on their first playthrough for ultimate xenomorph authenticity
I beat it on regular difficulty but it’s so hard
No homo? What are you then? Three rats in a Trenchcoat?
hehe
'youre my best friend- no homo'
I fully admitted to crushes on both of my besties at different points
I agree with the notion but I think I have a very different take all together, pronouns are best as short hand descriptors but I think it should be disconnected from the idea of physicality but more so perception, if someone uses female pronouns to describe me I feel pretty if they use male ones I feel masculine, what I want is to be able to freely use them disconnected from physical unchangeable bs and instead how you understand and interact with them
Me and my friends: I love you so much, you are the best thing that’s ever happened to me. Without you I am incomplete
Other people: you’re probably my best friend… no homo tho…
i usually ended up with feelings for my male friends but didn't admit it to myself until many years later
My two old besties and I have totally considered the group queerplatonic living situations several times
Yea, I actually think is this a cool idea. Although with the current understanding of gender it simply doesn’t work like that. I really don’t think this take is at all incompatible with gender abolitionism.
ive had crushes on several of my friends male and female, not some of my oldest friends though because in my head theyre practically siblings
Absolutely I agree
My partner has had similar realizations looking back on their friendships 😅
Anyways the neo pronouns I use sometimes are things like exclusive we and differential pronouns between like they singular and they plural.
I Think we need more pronouns in English
I think I’ve referred to myself as we on multiple occasions
As you should
Sometimes I notice and wonder if that’s odd
I don’t mind being odd. That’s just me
The holes in my brain have been replaced with tomfoolery
I have septo-optic dysplasia so there are missing bits in there
But that's also tied into the partial DID I was talking about earlier
fuckin vibe
Right I understand. I can’t say I know what that feels like. I’ve experienced dissociation/derealization but not in that way
But sometimes I do feel like a “we”
But in like a gender or lack of gender way

Since each of us was several, there was already quite a crowd. Here we have made use of everything that came within range, what was closest as well as farthest away. We have assigned clever pseudonyms to prevent recognition. Why have we kept our own names? Out of habit, purely out of habit. To make ourselves unrecognizable in turn. To render imperceptible, not ourselves, but what makes us act, feel and think. Also because it’s nice to talk like everybody else, to say the sun rises, when everybody knows it’s only a manner of speaking. To reach, not the point where one no longer says I, but the point where it is no longer of any importance whether one says I. We are no longer ourselves. Each will know his own. We have been aided, inspired, multiplied.”
this reminded me of this Deleuze and Guattari quote
I find it quite frustrating that I HAVE a gender
I know. I think that’s what drew me to learning about dimorphic evolution. Like why is this important?
And learning about animals changing sexes or with 3+ sexes helped me learn about my relationship with gender
Yeah it is a fascinating thing
I’m a big fan of sci-fi speculative zoology
And I guess my gender being wibbly wobbly with masc inclination might say something too 🤷
This oomfie gets me
Also seconding more words in the english language! I need more words to express more specific and complex ideas in a concise package!!
same
i had to do so much work in therapy un-repressing my gayness. and now that I accept it I feel so much better.
but it's also like... woah having feelings is hard. 😓
I was lucky enough to not give a fuck and started doing gay shit when I was like, 15 haha
I also way fucked up in plenty of other ways so doing gay shit was just like "Aight then, this is tight" haha
I had a preliminary meeting with a counselor who immediately said that I've been suppressing my emotions
Just imagine how mega homo I'll be when we get feeling again, I could level a focus on the family center with a look
loll
it's hard to learn how to feel a wider range of emotions again, but it's definitely worth it
Helloo
hi!!
Heyhey
Heyo what’s up
Went climbing, I always see the lgbtq night climbing posters but have never gotten down the information, sounds like fun
Something so that queer climbers can meet and have some fun climbing
Most climbs take a belayer, the most fun has a belayer.
(this is random, just #CeriThoughts moment and I chose to influence everyone with it)
Me when I see human/very humanoid characters in any media that everyone else is crazy over: meh, another humanoid
Me when I see a dragon, demon, werewolf or similar monster: 👀 oh no hes hot (but imagine that as asexually yet sometimes alloromantically as possible)
I need a word for being like a furry/scalie but for monsters and dragons instead, and no cutesy or cartoony, just an abominable creature.
Claws, scales, teeth, horns, fangs, tusks, spines, ridges, tails, wings, limbs, EYES.... I feel the deepest of kinships
dunno why I only get attracted to the monster bois (or girls or genderless or nonbinary) but hey
I mean the vulgar term for that is ||monster fucker|| but I don’t know if that’s what you’re looking for
I’m ace-spec too but I’m not bothered by sexual terms
i use the term "monster hugger" for myself
i just love them all around, not just in that specific sense. i would happily hug a monster
also I'm ace so I just don't love sexual words for me
I mean, that's basically still a furry. There's no rule that it has to be cute or fluffy. Plenty of furries are crazy about dragons.
Ive been in furry communities and tbh dont really find them all that relatable, most furries and scalies have very different tastes with aesthetics, even the ones with dragon sonas
cause its mostly just folks with anthro/cartoony dragons
I have nothing in common with 99% of furries lmao
You should dig a little deeper though. There are plenty with straight up feral dragon 'sonas.
True. I’ve seen plenty of feral dragon sonas so far
I usually use my hyena sona for online stuff since thats more popular than bird sonas (from what I’ve seen)
if you don't consider yourself a furry Ceri, then you aren't one
my main sona is a silly cartoony deer skully monster and most of my characters look weird or silly. very few have that default blue dog look. nothing wrong with that look, just not for me either
I was a snow leopard for like, 16 years haha. It started to make less sense over time. Then as I started actually learning more about wildlife I began embracing my inner skunk haha. Until last year when I officially made the switch. Just makes so much more sense to me in terms of personality and sociability.
Plus, look at these adorable little stinkers ❤️
Only the last 2 are pictures I took haha
i represent myself with these fellers primarily
I roginally represented myself as a calico cat but that has evolved over time too. I tend to gravitate towards odd or less liked animals
I even got my partner to play along
They don’t specifically have a sona but if they did, it would look like our tuxedo cat
Ya I'm ND ADHD predominantly with strong sensory aversions (esp noises) and obsession w texture.
I always talk to myself, it's what makes me a great RVT actually bc I can teach others skills by them watching me as I say the steps and reasons as I do the thing. 🌈
Having an idealized physical to represent myself seems fun but I don't have a singular sense of self and thus visual identity so I could never create an image I strongly attatch to
Except for like
An amorphous pile of Chitin
I find people who don't talk to themselves weird.
Polyamorous: This flag displays stripes of blue to represent openness and honesty, red to represent love and passion, and black to show solidarity with those who must hide their polyamorous relationships from the outside world. Gold was chosen to highlight the value of emotional connections.
Polysexual
Sapphic
And apparently a tiny segment of the global community (only 30k people) voted on a "new flag"
I like it, I just don't see the need or how it's going to help acceptance of non-monog relationships
The black always struck a cord w me, as it's the pain of hiding your relationships from the normies and usually your family/friends/coworkers etc.
I like the polyam flag. The other version feels too cutesy. Never really got deep with any queer flag’s meanings tho
I don't really care about a flag or if anyone accepts me being poly lol.
Using pi is stupid though.
If anything it should have been infinity.
Pi is a constant. Infinity is a concept that's basically limitless.
Oh, pi is the old one. Good, that's stupid lol.
i like the new one, the old one just has really harsh colors
i say this as a monogamous ace person lol
just my color opinions
I’m poly but only have one partner right now so it never comes up. I’m happy to educate people only what being poly means but I don’t care if they like that about me
I have a rainbow flag and trans flag in my house. Oh and I have a pan flag muzzle for a pup hood
Basically same lol
Asexual with bondage gear x3
I’m demisexual with various kink gear :3
Idk if any of you like my little pony but its super queer coded and I saw this fanart today and it’s so sweet
YES
I was never into it but furries ruined it even further for me lmao
there's an episode that HEAVILY implies that Big Mac is a trans woman
Which episode was that? I don’t remember
i have no idea what it's called but basically there was a sister competition and Apple Bloom was in it, but Apple Jack had to be out of town. Big Mac dressed up as "Cousin Orchard Blossom" so Apple Bloom could still participate, but he screws up all the challenges and they both learn a lesson
🤔 well then
That episode isn’t about him being trans, it kind of makes fun of trans people
The running joke of the episode is “what if I boy was in a girls body”
Its not very nice
i didn't at all see it that way and nor did my transfem friend
Well that’s how me and all my trans friends saw it
it's meant to be him in drag
i guess perceive it as you do and I will perceive it as I do
Yep :D
I guess I just never picked up any subtext with that show. But I’m not good at that so 🤷
Mlp has been my autism special interest since I was little and it’s the only thing I can pick up subtext with lol
I hyper-fixated on it for a while but not at special interest level. That was reserved for Mass Effect at that time
im a little confused, how are you polyamorous as a sexuality?
That’s not a sexuality for me. Being poly just means I can love more than one person at a time. That has nothing to do with sex necessarily
Ya it's way too cutesy for me.
The old one has those colours bc it was made in Microsoft paint w web html friendly colours in the early 1990's
That's awesome! I love human pups 🥰
OT but anyone who has Fet and would like to add me just DM me. Always looking for more queer kinksters.
Inner banter is a great way to simmer down ideas and concepts as well as to double check logical statements, just gotta be careful though because if you're not in a good headspace you can have emotionally driven depressive spirals arrive and you never think to reach out of that box you've built
But yeah someone is always talking in my head and I cannot fathom any other way of existing
When I was little I hyper fixated on whinny the Pooh.
I typed this as mum asked me if I had a drink ugsubgsuh
my two biggest special interests are cats and ancient Egypt
is it really a surprise that I'm going into archaeology lol
Same:)
Shouldn’t we take all the ND chat to #1136455504126808095
Meh, most of us that chat here are in that one too and probably half of us are furries. It's all one big group of fuckery lol
For me it's skunks and oddly specific aspects of music theory x3
I was freaking terrified of anything ancient Egypt as a kid. I remember a field trip to a museum and I would not go near the pyramid/tomb display
That’s fair. I’m in other servers that are stricter about that
My name is another translation for Osiris :p
Cool
Osiris is so overused so I wanted to be different lmao
I'd love to study ancient Egytian history and mythology but, I have higher priorities. Half of why I love Stargate is because it pulls a lot from Egyptian mythology.
Plus I think there's another skunk who calls themself Osiris haha
As a kid I watched some Stargate: Atlantis but only kinda got into the original more recently
I fucking love Stargate.
I have e v e r y t h i n g haha
SG-1(minus seasons 9/10) is so fucking good.
My bird sona is Halley (after the comet). When I originally designed him, he was atompunk themed
For the longest time I thought I actually saw Halley's Comet, but that was because people are stupid. It was Hale-Bopp. It was still really cool though, I was like, 8.
I saw it out my bedroom window by pure chance. It was so fucking cool lol.
That’s still cool, yeah
My uncle used to teach college astronomy. Took his classes on trips to the desert to see things. He’s with Planewave Instruments now
That's pretty awesome.
I want to go to a place with minimal light polution at some point in my life so I can actually have a good view of space.
Agreed. I kinda got that after a few days with no power 😂
Queerness is linked to some extent with neurodivergence
Which intuitively makes sense ig
The people that think differently.... think differently!?
But I do find it interesting still like typically in dyslexic or autistic people there's a fundamental disconnect on the approach to the world in relation to everyone else and so I wonder how much of it is from that different way of thinking
I myself am bestowed with both funky tools to some extent and have just never fundamentally understood what it is straight typical individuals are chasing
I just don't idolize a pretty person or sex as a goal or the idea of fulfilling a social expectation of family and marriage and what not it just never clicked with me
This also kinda extrapolates further into furries I think too
The idea of rejecting your physical shows something of a disconnect in the way most people think
And if you're already rejecting your physical in favor of a more abstract representation then why not want different physical form elsehow or look for something more abstract in someone else
I don’t know if that’s right actually. I think it’s more of a sociological explanation than a biological/neurological one. I think most furries are queer because being a furry is seen as odd or outside of the norm, and so is being queer. So once you’re already outside of the norm (being queer) you’re exposing yourself to all kinds of other things that are outside of the norm as well, and that forces you to have a more open mind. Pair this with the fact that so many people already identify with an animal, so it only makes sense that if you’re super attached to this animal and you happen across furries as a queer individual with an open mind, some clicks happen and then all of a sudden you’re a queer furry.
Yes but I think there is an underlying difference in thought to get to the first step
But it is very much so a social one for sure
It's very easy to snowball into other unconventional takes once you have self isolated with one
I think that’s also why you’ll see so many queer socialists and such as well.
Although the left as a whole is generally open to more diversity because of egalitarianism but whatever
Also not trying to get into politics, it was just another big example I thought of
Yeah I've seen examples of such in a sense for sure
I do hate that we can't talk about political things from an objective point of view here. Just as like, part of a conversation.
But furries are all over the place when it comes to how one identifies with the fandom.
We can when it relates to environmental policy. We try to limit other types of political discussion because it very options leads to drama and such.
It's understandably hard to talk about it without linking it to themselves emotionally since it shaped their lives
Yea, people often see an attack on their political ideals as an attack on them personally, which isn’t ideal in a server like this, especially when there’s really not a huge reason to talk about politics outside of env pol
Yeah
I do think the majority here probably lean in one direction more than the other though. Kinda comes with the territory of advocating for environmental policy.
I have come to consultation that my nationality makes more sense then my gender identity.
I don’t know how else to describe this lol
fair enough
Correct, because nationality is determined by what country you belong to, these countries are more formal institutions, unlike gender which is kind of just completely made up in a lot of ways
Fungus enjoyer?🙃
prob was thinking exoskeleton
I'm fine with either tbh
Just get these bones out of me and give me something other than oozy porus flesh
THis.
Like, sometimes im not a boy or a girl im just "an Australian"
Yea that’s understandable
psa: if you are not trans or disabled or otherwise needing to use a single stall, unisex bathroom or locker room, please do not use it
for context I had to use the women's locker room, which is uncomfortable for me and everyone else in the locker room. i look very androgynous leaning slightly feminine, but my upper body is built like a man and I have a lot of body hair. I know I make people around me uncomfortable
I will stick with women’s rooms until I start looking obviously masc
Because generally cleaner
I’ve never been in a locker room situation
I'm a janitor I walk through all doors and boundaries
I am uniquely positioned to realize how meaningless gendering bathrooms is
For single stall anyways
I'm sure it would be a bit more awkward in one with more stalls but so long as you're just there to do your business and leave a veil of confidence should be more than enough
It only gets weird if you have to linger there
absolutely
I used to clean a library at night. They both had their own levels of nasty haha
Yeah they're relatively the same level of dirty just in their own ways
i can confirm
I think they’re mainly gendered to help women feel safer (cis or not) but idk. As a nb person it’s uncomfy for me to use a gendered bathroom.
That and bio males have the ability to use a urinal vs standing above a toilet and splashing on the seat(dealt with this many times cleaning bathrooms too lol)
Yeah that too
this completely
i also use women's bathrooms because they make me feel safer but it's very uncomfortable
Same
Gendered bathrooms aren’t uncomfy for me either way. But I agree that women’s room feel safer
I used mens rooms until I had a situation where a buncha ppl stared at me and one large man blocked the door so i couldnt leave. I had to squeeze around him
Its a terrifying thing to use public restrooms when ur transitioning and clocky/androgynous
what the fuck was his problem
like in what universe would that ever be an appropriate response to any situation
I'm so sorry that happened to you
This is why everyone needs a sniper outside establishments
Get protagonists out of danger
Maybe he was arching, he was deciding to take you on as his nemesis. Only acceptable option
Even then pepper spray would be acceptable. Except, and I don’t mean to insult the option, but I’m sure poison spray does more damage, or some other approach with pizazz, something personal yk
I like that train of thinking it put me on
oh absolutely poison spray would be better
i haven't mastered my poison damage attacks yet
Crabby with that op psychic damage?
i mostly do normal type
Reject binary attacks and give ‘em the ol’ one-through-ten
Not allowed to give them a one two here 
excellent
this
We have single stalled bathrooms at school, for some reason we have male/female/then unisex.
It’s pointless.
This is what barely street legal knifes are for 
I mean im not going to fight someone like that. And he didnt say anything to me or anything
Still visually being armed discourages tomfoolery directed at you
I used to carry a pocket knife. Sometimes I still do if I’m ever alone
It’s less the queerness I’m concerned about. More that I’m under 5 foot and a person of color
that's super fair and valid and a good idea
i carry pepper spray with me all the time because I am afab and queer
lil birb
don't laugh at me
i may have accidentally joined the lesbian club at my school
i thought it was a general queer club but no I just can't read
Oops
The gsa at my high school was just queer kids sitting around hoping for dates
I don’t remember the college one
I wish my school had a lesbian club
Me too lmao
the many benefits of a big college
There's an LGBTQ+ club at my school, I meant to go to the initial meeting but I had the 'rona haha
you can go to any other meeting unless your school has weird rules
There’s an lgbt club at my school too but the leader of it saw me at a pride parade and specifically asked me to join so now I can’t bc I’d melt from anxiety and embarrassment.
:)
My pinterest feed is 80% sure I'm a lesbian, 20% sure I'm interested in sharks
Are you both of those things?
I am 80% sure I like sharks and 20% sure I'm a lesbian
I just wanted to share cuz I found it funny
Just curious but did anybody else get recommended tons of LGBTQ+ content on social media before even starting to figure out your identity?
My feed was so much gay stuff even back when I thought I was cis/het lol
My recommended content is a wild mess, but yes. In fact it made me realise I wasn’t cis, and helped me outta my little metaphorical box.
i was feeling particularly bad about being trans. like that I'd never achieve anything or amount to anything. then I learned that Gooseworx, creator of The Amazing Digital Circus, which has a fandom and over 50 million views within 2 weeks and one episode
i should add that Gooseworx is a trans woman
i hope she knows she's an inspiration to all creatives and queer people
Hullo, my friend says there is no cis explanation for me and that makes Me feel good
Shes right as well, I'm very not straight or cisgender
hi
Hi
Hello :D
Halloo!^^
Comet relationships - what are your thoughts?
I've never heard of those! what are they?
^
that just sounds like most relationships honestly
fr
Felt
my friend met someone on hinge and had a gf for exactly 14 hours, t4t relationships are wild
yeah my friend is just aro with conflicting feelings😭 im sure that wouldn't happen to u
i was in a t4t relationship before and it was good :]
IM REVIVING THIS CHAT RAAAAAH
I GOT MY FIRST DOSE OF T TODAY
(Um if anyone also does injections do they have tips for finding a spot that doesn’t also bend when you sit?)
happy pride!
😊😊😊
Im a profesional bicycle
Could someone explain neopronouns to me? Im not sure I get it and I want to understand
they are just pronouns like he, she, or they, but different words. neopronouns have been used for a long time, I want to say since Shakespeare wrote
common neopronouns include xe/xim, ey/em, and I've seen hen growing some but I don't know how that one works in different tenses
some people feel more comfortable using neopronouns than traditional pronouns, or they just use them for fun because they want to. I will use ey/em in some online spaces even though he/him are my pronouns
I hope that made sense. myself and others are happy to answer any questions we can
Hi!
Fellow queer person here. For some reason I didn't think I'd find many queer people who liked Science
hi im bi
Well seems like there are pretty much of us




