FT: XXL 1/250 chance Stakataka pogo stamped still in go custom OT available

[pale ermine]

Info: 1/250 chance for XXL in the same raids as 1/20 for pogo shiny raid legendaries. To put it into perspective thats 12.5x more rare than a pogo shiny raid legendary,

Also this is pay wall locked for max encounters of 5-6x per day. As a free eastern hemisphere player its 1x per day and only during running events which there have only been 2 since its release a year ago with a combined total of 17 days. Also all of its pogo events have been locked to the eastern hemisphere only, so it is 0x per day for a f2p western hemisphere player

LF: offers

[timber arrow]

When you say complete the list you mean all of the above ?

[iron palm]

I have a few of them @pale ermine

I'll offer (all shiny) Dreepy, Budew, and Electabuzz

[pale ermine]

Yep

[pale ermine]

Nice! You'll just need a few more

I could keep it simple and ask for 13 pogo shiny legendaries but this is my way of asking for less

[timber arrow]

Wait what

[pale ermine]

.

A pogo raid for shiny legendary is 1/20 chance

That same exact raid is a 1/250 chance for XXL

The math there is 12.5x

I round up .5 so 13

So 1 XXL legendary from pogo specifically is worth 12.5 shiny raid legendaries from pogo

[timber arrow]

Ah sorry

Good luck then, but bro may I suggest to consider lowering your asking price

[iron palm]

If you are looking for someone to complete that list or match the odds by other means, I have a hunch that you might be searching for a while. Best of luck with the trades though!

[pale ermine]

Ty im sure i will be

Im mainly looking for ultra rare collectors

[iron palm]

Very fair!

[pale ermine]

They'd essentially see my LF list as a bunch of garbage compared to my offer lol

[timber arrow]

I mean your list are pretty easy to get shinies

Besides the legendary ones

[final rover]

So by ur logic my xxs uxie is worth 13 shiny legendaries?

[timber arrow]

Apparently

[timber arrow]

But good luck finding a buyer

[pale ermine]

Depends on the game, pogo raids are 1/20 other games like sword for a regi don't get affected by anything including shiny charm they are at 1/4096

Odds and location and game are important

[timber arrow]

But the thing is I think you didn’t account for what people might want or go for

[pale ermine]

Because these are also time gated and pay wall locked and exclusive per territories on pogo

[timber arrow]

For example when I got a shiny from a pokemon go raid

It technically has the same odds as a legendary to be shiny

But that doesn’t mean I’m gonna find someone who would trade me for it

[pale ermine]

Im looking for XXL collectors mainly or someone who collects ultra rares

[timber arrow]

Similar to how some shiny legendaries have more value than other ones

[timber arrow]

Yes I get that

I’m just referring to the formula

You put out

[pale ermine]

1/250 chance. 1 raid allowed per day (as a free player) 5-6 per day if u pay real money. And the event is usually only 8 days every few months

And as a free player on half of the world (western hemisphere) most of the stakataka events aren't available so as a free player that's 0 encounters per event

[timber arrow]

Yes don’t get me wrong it is an impressive find

[pale ermine]

• pogo stamp and custom OT

[timber arrow]

And fits the pokemon

[pale ermine]

Yea I'm stoked

[final rover]

Wonder what an Ultra ball xxs research legend is worth than

[timber arrow]

Does it happen to be shiny ?

[pale ermine]

If it's not from a pogo raid it may be higher or lower

Depending on how long it's event was for

[final rover]

Not my xxs one,

[final rover]

Back on go Sinnoh tour

[pale ermine]

Also which parts of the world had access, how many times it could be obtained per account etc

[timber arrow]

Are you looking to trade it ?

[pale ermine]

Yea generally 1/250 is miles better than 1/20 so for pogo trading it's very valuable imo

[timber arrow]

Also sorry we are ruining this guy’s post

May I dm you

[ocean wedge]

@pale ermine would like to ask if the XXL size is actually comparable to the normal size once they are compared side by side when transferred in Sw/Sh?

[pale ermine]

I compared them on pogo side by side and it is noticeable yea

I know on scarlet it's like that as well

Im sure for sword and shield it should show them bigger but if it doesn't it will keep the XXL at the very least for future games

@ocean wedge

[ocean wedge]

How do you compare them in PoGo? Kind of curious.

[pale ermine]

There's 2 ways, the first is the character screen where it shows your buddy and the next is just walking around with buddy mode on

It might be insanely large in other games ik they always mess up proportions

[pale ermine]

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[pale ermine]

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[pale ermine]

Bump, original post

[manic blade]

Swsh doesn't use size variables for anything, tho it does track them for potential use in future games.

[manic blade]

Also legendaries don't have any visual size difference in gen 9, they just take on the average size no matter what (this isn't relevant for ultra beasts at the moment, since they're not available in SV, but it might be a precedent for future games).

Which I'm not saying to devalue the rarity, I still think the mark is cool and it's a collectors item lol

[pale ermine]

Yea future games will most likely show the sizes and stuff, more tech and innovation and all that

I do like how they've started to do that tho

The good news is that the size is kept in home

Also u can see the size difference in certain games like pogo already

[ocean wedge]

I got the idea but as per earlier comments it seems the OP wanted an over value trade in return for it given that there was a recent Auctioned XXL Shiny Rayquaza with a home stamped Shiny Zeraora as the winning bid.

With all of this, does this mean that the XXL Stakataka (Non-Shiny) is more valuable than XXL Rayquaza (Shiny)? 🤔

[pale ermine]

The math is 1/250 vs 1/20

He got lowballed

[manic blade]

In terms of rarity size may be less common but I don't think many people care, shiny has been sought after for a long time. Most people also don't care which size they get between xxl and xxs even if they do collect them, so that makes them twice as common. Not to mention xl and xs mons have a chance to roll max size in Home as well. Just not as common a market.

Do I think it's worth that much? Nah, but that's the OPs perogative to set a price

[pale ermine]

Its really simple for me tbh, it's a 1/250 chance for XXL, and a 1/20 chance for shiny in pogo raids

I wish it was reversed tbh but is what it is

Im def not gonna pretend it's worth 1 shiny pogo legendary tho lmao

Also the fact that it's stakataka this dudes name even references he's all about his height

[pale ermine]

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[timber wadi]

So by your logic a 1/4096 shiny Arceus is worth 200+ shiny pogo raids? 🧐

[pale ermine]

The game matters

In pogo the encounters are pay wall locked except for eastern hemisphere for stakataka at 1x per day per event which have been 17 days in a year

In normal games you're able to shiny hunt as much as you want every day with a certain chance depending on charms etc or if not then yes 1/4096 like the regis in sw/sh

I hope that makes sense @timber wadi

[timber wadi]

Arceus requires you to own two games and a switch + you gotta finish both to full completion.

[pale ermine]

Yep and like I said this one is pay wall locked max of 6 encounters per day if eastern and 5 if western, 1 attempt free for eastern, at 17 days in a year

The math there puts it at more value because of the amount of encounters available vs other games that let you encounter every second of every day of every year

And that's around $2 per encounter outside of the 1 free

Thats $170 for max encounters of 5-6 per day for the 17 days at $2 each, which is roughly a 85/250 odds chance for its entire lifetime of a year+. Unlike other games where you can reach 4096/4096 encounters in less than a week

[timber wadi]

I understand the math you're trying to do, however, I dont think it holds up in market value. Like more people would want a shiny anything than a size non-shiny legend. Or is there proof of people going hard for them? Just for fun, value my mew I got in go based on shiny raid legends 👀

[pale ermine]

I think people just care about shinies more than they care about numbers and that's fine lol

People are definitely more interested in shinies you're right, I just think it's a lack of understanding with actual rarity rn

[pale ermine]

Im not able to value it rn, id have to do a lot of research first

Days it's been released, where it was locked/available to, max encounters available, pay wall restriction, chance etc

[thorny hemlock]

As someone who plays pogo this isn’t true at all😭

[pale ermine]

I play pogo too, which part?

[thorny hemlock]

The $170

[pale ermine]

If you're talking about multiple accounts it goes up yea but so does the price point

[thorny hemlock]

There’s bundles which everything significantly cheaper

[pale ermine]

2x5=10

17 days x 10 =170

The bundles are 10% off its accounted for this and rounded

I'm going off of normal discounts not the small time gated window ones

[timber wadi]

Every pogo player gets a mew research

[pale ermine]

And also $ aside it's still more rare even if it was $0

Bc you're not reaching 250/250

Multiple accounts means you're paying more as well

[thorny hemlock]

Completely agree

[pale ermine]

Yes

For the other one you mentioned id have to add that in as well

But if the ball is different that also changes it's rarity

[pale ermine]

But anyway like I said with a 10% discount which is standard, it's 170 for 85/250 over it's entire lifetime. This part is 100% accurate. If you use multiple accounts you could hit 250/250 lol but that's $500 and 500/250 $1000 etc. Vs again someone hitting 4096 in less than a week

Its like 1.62 but I rounded

Its more work don't get me wrong for the 4096 but literally the amount of times u could hit it, are infinite vs time gated

[thorny hemlock]

Are you talking remotes or regular passes?

Where do you get your percentages for a pokemon to be xxl from raids, I also thought it wasn’t confirmed yet

[timber wadi]

I wouldnt say that. Size is a gimmick in pogo and SV. In pogo it is barely usefull apart from the pokestops here and there. In SV it is an actual rarity, but not non-shiny, as non-shiny sizes are worth null. Then we get to Staka, which aint in SV, meaning you cant even see the size. You're right that it might be in the future but who knows... maybe we can feed pokemon in PLZA so that they grow in size... we simply dont know. And maybe there is a Staka lover out there, but I'd assume he'll rather just get a shiny one! In any case, your post, your rules! Hope you find someone worthy of the big Tower!

[pale ermine]

I suppsoe eastern players would get a half off discount or whatever since they don't have to remote but the equation still holds

[pale ermine]

Future games will let it be shown and better/more accurate imo. Which would be really cool because it's like 27 ft tall or something lol

Ty i had fun discussing it

[thorny hemlock]

How is a shiny xxl legendary be worth 13 shinies but a regular xxl ub is also worth that much?

[pale ermine]

They're not worth the same

Game matters tho

[thorny hemlock]

Sorry I scrolled up and read that

[pale ermine]

Can you reply to it, it may be an error

Shiny xxl raid legend in pogo would be worth way more than a normal xxl raid legend (depending on days released for both)

But both are significantly rarer than most shiny legends

[pale ermine]

Chat kinda got cluttered heres the original post for anyone new

Im LF offers, my original LF list i posted is completed

[silk crag]

Just because something is more rare based on numbers, doesn't mean it's worth in the same scale. Just my perspective.
For example, any particular iv spread on a Pokémon is upwards of 1 in millions chance. Doesn't make it that much valued unless there's some substance or use for said iv spread.
And size is just a gimmick that doesn't even affect anything, not even it's weight for heavy slam or lowkick. It's literally worthless. Especially on stakataka that cannot even go into sv where size at least gets a mark.

[pale ermine]

I appreciate your opinion

Have a beautiful day

[pale ermine]

Original post , bump

[pale ermine]

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[pale ermine]

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[willow rampart]

yoo XXL mew

[timber wadi]

seems there is a love for these

[willow rampart]

can I yoink it

[timber wadi]

What you wanna yoink it for?

You as an pokemon-size-maniac, what are these even worth?

[willow rampart]

My first born child

but on a serious note. If you’re willing to give it up, we can discuss it in DMs maybe? I don’t wanna drown another person’s trade post

[timber wadi]

I'm up for contemplating it at least!

[cinder marsh]

I would also be down to dm for the mew, maybe you make it an auction?

@timber wadi

[timber wadi]

Owh damn haha! I can give that a thought haha! Sorry OP for chatting up your post!

[shy dust]

So ideally what do u want for this XXL non shiny legend?

another XXL or XXS non shiny legend ?

[willow rampart]

@shy dust

[shy dust]

hmm yeah that will be hard

I wish some of my XXL legendaries were worth that

[willow rampart]

XXL non shiny legends aren’t worth that much unless they’re shiny locked in Go… or unless someone wants it that badly

[pale ermine]

In my opinion out of every legendary this is the best one at XXL, that's my own personal opinion. I valued this higher than my shiny staka with custom OT and traded the shiny away, realistically I don't expect someone to give 13 pogo shiny legends even tho that's exactly how much it's worth is statistically at a 1/250 vs 1/20s

[shy dust]

well no there’s rarer things than raid caught xxl

[pale ermine]

Obviously yes

[shy dust]

for instance research/GBL caught Xxl

brings the odds to like 1/600

[pale ermine]

There is indeed rarer things lol

My comparison is to shiny raid legends

[shy dust]

Yeah I don’t think you can really compare shiny to non shiny. Kinda the same as like comparing a recluse marked non shiny pokemon to a shiny pokemon

recluse mark is way rarer but way less desirable

[pale ermine]

Im comparing rarity

[shy dust]

You’re comparing rarity in general not when it comes to the market

[pale ermine]

Exactly

[shy dust]

makes sense

[pale ermine]

And the only reason I'm keeping to it is because it's stakataka

[shy dust]

Cuz ngl this genesect thats xxl goes crazy

[pale ermine]

XXL on stak from pogo raids , size matters the most for him and people are gonna be hard pressed to find 3 people in this server with an XXL staka

Tbh out of every pokemon having a skyscraper just appeals to me the most

[shy dust]

the thing is even a XL stakataka can get the jumbo mark if it’s the correct height

so it’s less rare nowadays

[pale ermine]

Yea but in terms of rarity and availability at everything i mentioned before it's worth a lot regardless of non shiny

17 days etc

[shy dust]

I guess it depends up to the market

[pale ermine]

I've explained everything from my pov as best I can, from here on out regardless of how long it takes it'll just be bumps

[shy dust]

I personally would be down to trade some basic Aprishinies for it

[pale ermine]

No ty

[timber wadi]

Harder than Mew?

[shy dust]

probably not

Since mew is 1 per account

[pale ermine]

from here on out please scroll up to read the arguments provided and only post offers ty

[pale ermine]

Link to original post

[pale ermine]

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When the games come out that are better about showing real sizes, this is how big this 8.39m XXL stakataka will be compared to a trainer

[halcyon summit]

when you gonna accept that value is relative and has nothing to do with specific odds or how actual size comparisons that pokemon games have never really adhered to and probably won't

i had a car once that was really really rare. cuz they didn't make very many of them. but it didn't make them valuable because no one wanted them. it only made finding parts for it really hard and expensive

[wide pivot]

[pale ermine]

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[pale ermine]

a giant skyscraper that has the chance of being in games in the future is way cooler than a golden piss colored house in my opinion and it's 12.5x more rare, other mons sure who cares but this thing is literally double the size of palkia

People keep telling me it's a gimmick or whatever but one day it may not be and I'm climbing on top of this stakataka and building a campfire

[thorny hemlock]

If XLs can also get the jumbo mark doesn’t that make the jumbo mark not 12.5x rarer?

It’s 1/250 for xxl but xls also get jumbo marks so it isn’t as rare as you think it is

[pale ermine]

Pogo raids

Staka eastern locked

17 day availability since release

Please I'm tired of explaining ): can you people just bid or scram

[thorny hemlock]

Dodging my question

[pale ermine]

Bro just go to Google or dm me if it's a burning question, but this thing has been flooded enough

[thorny hemlock]

I’m just proving a point that it’s not 12.5x more rarer

[pale ermine]

1/20 chance for a pogo shiny legendary in raids. 1/250 for an XXL pogo legendary (non shiny) in that same raid. 20*12.5=250

[thorny hemlock]

But both xxl and xl can be jumbo

[pale ermine]

Literally no where on this entire thread did I ever even say that word

Idc about jumbo

[thorny hemlock]

But isn’t that the entire point?

Xxl get the jumbo

[pale ermine]

To you apparently

Im looking at size and xxl and obtain chance

I know that's not hard to grasp

Like i know for a fact it's not hard to grasp 😭

[thorny hemlock]

There’s a reason no one has agreed with you yet

The one who isn’t able to grasp anything is you

Goodluck🫶🙏

[pale ermine]

No you lot are just toxic and can't handle anyone putting a lot of value on something you disagree with

Its my price it's my post make a offer or don't but stop trying to get me to lower its value

[shy dust]

I’m pretty sure I seen this re posted a few times alrdy tho