Helping shiny hunt Scarlet Paradoxes for Violet players and Violet Paradoxes for Scarlet players.

[supple dove]

Want to hunt version exclusive shiny Paradox Pokémon? You've come to the right place! As a Scarlet player, I can help hunt the Scarlet exclusive Paradox shinies. However, we'll need 1-2 Violet players to help hunt the Violet exclusive Paradox shinies, and possibly 1 other Scarlet player to help with shiny hunting the Scarlet exclusives.

Shiny Charm is preferred, but not required. Make sure you have enough Herba Mystica before asking to join.

While in Union Circle, each player can spawn 5 Pokemon at a time. With a max of 4 players, there can be up to 20 exclusive spawns. The spawns that appear will depend on each player's version and which type of sandwich is used. Just let the host know which version you have so that the group can plan out the shiny hunts.

Union Circle Shiny Hunting Tips:

1. If you spawn the target shiny, DON'T encounter it. Any Union Circle Pokémon will despawn if you run away from battle, making it uncatchable for other players. Instead, let the other player know where it is so that they can find and catch it.

NOTE: If you spawned a shiny that you need, you can save your game here. You'll still be able to catch the shiny later.

2. Until the other player finds and encounters the shiny, keep the shiny in view without encountering it. As long as you stay near the shiny & you can still see it, it won't despawn.

NOTE: Some Paradox Pokémon will chase you if you get too close. Keep a small distance between you two while still keeping the shiny in view. If the shiny stops moving and/or is just staring at you, you're safe.

3. Once the other player tells you that they have encountered the target shiny, you can continue shiny hunting.

4. If you saved the game prior to the shiny being caught, and the shiny hunt is over, you can now reset your game. Upon reloading, the shiny will be there waiting for you to catch it.

If you want to join a shiny hunt after this, just ask the host if they can remake the Union Circle.

[supple dove]

bump

[supple dove]

fist bump

[spice hazel]

Let me know if you find any luck. We’re in the same boat 🛥️

[supple dove]

sure thing 🤞

[frank pond]

hi

[supple dove]

hello

[supple dove]

🤔

[frank pond]

hi

[supple dove]

Go! Shining Bump!

[slate prawn]

Link code?

[supple dove]

Do you have Violet?

[slate prawn]

yes

[supple dove]

Cool! Have you finished Area Zero (i.e. you can ride Miraidon when you're there)?

[slate prawn]

yes man..

[supple dove]

Okay, nice! If you have Herba Mystica and ingredients for sandwich making, then I can set up a union circle for us to shiny hunt in Area Zero.

[frank pond]

can i join?

[supple dove]

Which version of the game do you have?

[frank pond]

violet and scarlet

only have dlc in violet

[supple dove]

That's okay. We'll be hunting in Area Zero, so you won't need the dlc. Speaking of Violet, have you finished Area Zero on that save file?

[frank pond]

yes. Just fiund shiny masqurin in it to!

ive beat the game

[supple dove]

Ah, cool. Well, if you have some Herba Mystica and sandwich ingredients, then we should be able to start shiny hunting there.

[frank pond]

ok! I have a few

[supple dove]

Sweet!

[frank pond]

whats the code?

[supple dove]

7NN2PL

[frank pond]

im in

[supple dove]

👍

[frank pond]

i have a few herb, only have 2salty tho

[supple dove]

should be able to make Sparkling Power sandwiches with any 2, actually.

[frank pond]

yep

[supple dove]

which paradox should we start with?

[frank pond]

i wanna find gimora, but that isnt a paradox. Maybe iron bundle?

[supple dove]

Okay, sounds good.

I believe Glimmora is at the bottom, iirc.

[frank pond]

it is

[supple dove]

So, I guess an ice sandwich would work for Iron Bundle, as I believe it's the only Ice type that spawns there.

[frank pond]

i think so!

i also have shiny charm

[supple dove]

nice!

[frank pond]

Klawf Stick
・Salty Herba Mystica x2
Recipe #2 ・Cucumber
・Pickle
・Klawf Stick x3
・Any 2 Herba Mystica except Sweet + Sour or Sour + Sour

found two recipes

[supple dove]

Cool!

[frank pond]

ok, so we headin on in?

[supple dove]

Sure. Just need to make the sandwich out here first.

[frank pond]

ok!

started a picnic

[supple dove]

the recipe above, right?

[frank pond]

the easy one? Ye

…i forgot to save…

eh ill just get more

[supple dove]

Wow, that IS easy!

[frank pond]

Yep

[spice hazel]

If you guys have time I need to hunt for violet paradox mons

[supple dove]

If Dark's okay with it, since they have Violet.

[frank pond]

yep. But the sandwich will only work for us

in okay with it tho

[supple dove]

true. can always make another union circle

[frank pond]

yep

thats fine with me

[supple dove]

i think iron bundle spawns by Station 4

[frank pond]

ok

i just jumped into

[supple dove]

cool

or that lower area rather

[spice hazel]

If you guys starter a sandwich already I can wait

[frank pond]

I FOUND ONE

[supple dove]

Sweet! omw

where should i go?

[frank pond]

Ok. I engaged it in battle. Im near station one

[supple dove]

if you already engaged it, I can't catch it. it'll despawn if you run too.

[frank pond]

oh 😦

[supple dove]

gl on your catch, tho

[frank pond]

i thought it would de spawn if i didnt

[supple dove]

as long as you're near it, it'll stick around

[frank pond]

ooohhhh

[supple dove]

nw

[spice hazel]

Y’all mind joining a voice chat?

[frank pond]

got it

[supple dove]

congrats!

[frank pond]

i cant, parents

theres a lot spawning around station number one

[supple dove]

oh, ok. whichever's easier, tbh

[frank pond]

u find any?

[supple dove]

I'm not able to spawn Iron Bundle on my end.

[frank pond]

ohhh

where are you?

[supple dove]

inside Station 1

[frank pond]

ok. I cant see you

[supple dove]

yeah, other players are invisible in Area Zero. not sure why, but yeah.

[frank pond]

huh.

[supple dove]

in case the shiny doesn't spawn, should we hunt a different Pokemon or try for Iron Bundle again?

looks like the sandwich ended

[frank pond]

i have to go, actually.

In one minute

[supple dove]

oh, okay. np, then. Thanks for offering to help!

[frank pond]

sorry for earlyer. But np!

[supple dove]

it's okay

[supple dove]

Whacka Bump

[supple dove]

Paradox Bump

[solemn shale]

hi

bye

?

u typing?

[supple dove]

why "hi" then "bye"? did you want to shiny hunt?

[solemn shale]

uh sure?

i got violet

[supple dove]

have you finished Area Zero?

[solemn shale]

do u have scarlet?

yes

[supple dove]

cool. and yeah, I have Scarlet.

[solemn shale]

k

[supple dove]

do you have any Herba Mystica for sandwiches?

[solemn shale]

yes

[supple dove]

Sweet! I'll get a Union Circle started.

[solemn shale]

ok

do you want a miraidon?

i can trade you one

[supple dove]

No thanks. I already traded for one previously. Thanks for the offer, though.

[solemn shale]

ok

[supple dove]

BHYH0B

[solemn shale]

Ok

1 sec i gotta get out of areo 0

[supple dove]

lol np

[solemn shale]

k im in

[supple dove]

Cool!

Which Paradox 'mons did you want to start with?

[solemn shale]

um iron galliant?

[supple dove]

Sure.

[solemn shale]

i know its location

[supple dove]

cool

[solemn shale]

i put herb?

[supple dove]

sure. either one should work

[solemn shale]

what else should i add

ok i just put a bunch of potato salad

and 2 oil

[supple dove]

will that give sparkling power 3?

[solemn shale]

idk

[supple dove]

recipe I'm using is 3 tomatoes, 1 onion, 1 green bell pepper, 1 hamburger and 2 herba mystica

gives sparkling, title and encounter power 3 for fairy

[solemn shale]

Ok

[supple dove]

that's a lot of potato salad lol

[solemn shale]

Bru that was hillarious

nice

research area 3

i mean lab

[supple dove]

Cool! From what I've read online, if you save in front of the shiny, then reset after I catch it, we can both get it. Not sure if you still need the Violet Paradox shinies as well.

[solemn shale]

?

where u at

[supple dove]

In Station 3

[solemn shale]

i dont see you

[supple dove]

we're invisible to one another in Area Zero

[solemn shale]

oh

[supple dove]

not sure why, but yeah

[solemn shale]

ok

so how does this work

do you also see the future paradox pokemon?

[supple dove]

I will once i arrive, yeah.

[solemn shale]

ok

[supple dove]

Essentially, you go to the spawn area and hunt for the shiny, then let me know so I can go and catch it.

[solemn shale]

k

[supple dove]

If you save before I encounter it, then reload your game after I've caught it, you should be able to catch the same Pokemon for yourself.

At least, that's what I've read online.

[solemn shale]

found it i encountered it by accident

[supple dove]

the shiny, you mean?

[solemn shale]

ye

im in battle i zoomed in and saw it

[supple dove]

oof. well, gonna have to try to catch it, then. it despawns if you run.

[solemn shale]

ok sry

[supple dove]

np

[solemn shale]

i can trade it to you if u want

[supple dove]

would prefer to catch one with my own OT, but thanks.

[solemn shale]

ok

was that normal to see it that fast?

[supple dove]

depends on RNG, tbh. with level 3 + shiny charm, it's roughly 1/683.

[solemn shale]

i dont have a shiny charm

[supple dove]

then about 1/1024

[solemn shale]

dang

[supple dove]

guess I should've asked about that upfront

still doable, as i hunted the Scarlet ones myself without the charm

[solemn shale]

ok

[supple dove]

just have less spawns in co-op

[solemn shale]

im very sorry tho

[supple dove]

nw. it happens

[solemn shale]

ok thanks

[supple dove]

where are you now, btw?

in-game, I mean lol

[solemn shale]

im in the iron valiant cave

[supple dove]

the one with the giant watefall and the weird patterns on the ground?

[solemn shale]

ye

[supple dove]

ah, gotcha

[solemn shale]

i found a large one

is that rare?

[supple dove]

not sure

[solemn shale]

wait nvm its tiny

[supple dove]

lol

[solemn shale]

imma catchit

[supple dove]

👍

[solemn shale]

got it

[supple dove]

cool

[solemn shale]

u got any luck yet?

[supple dove]

the Violet paradoxes only spawn for you, I'm afraid

[solemn shale]

oh

sry

[supple dove]

np

[solemn shale]

what spawns here for you?

[supple dove]

with Fairy sandwich, it would be either Scream Tail or Flutter Mane

[solemn shale]

coo l

does it usually take this long?

[supple dove]

it can. slightly boosted odds with only 5-10 spawns with 2 people.

[solemn shale]

ok

[supple dove]

the number increases with more players, iirc

[solemn shale]

Cool

[supple dove]

though that is harder to organize, admittedly

[solemn shale]

k

i think i might have found a shiny one stuck in the walls

[supple dove]

omw

does it look silver?

[solemn shale]

i cant tell its in the wall

all i see is pink and maybe gray

[supple dove]

i'm inside. which wall, more or less?

[solemn shale]

do you know any methods too see in the walls?

th on. At the very top of the ramp

[supple dove]

can hold ZL to zoom in

[solemn shale]

ok let me try

nope false alarm sry

[supple dove]

np

sandwich ended as well

do you want to keep going?

[solemn shale]

ok meet at gate?

[supple dove]

sure

[solemn shale]

i can keep going if needed btw

[supple dove]

okay, cool. figured I'd ask

...keeps ending the picnic

[solemn shale]

oh thats the end button?

sry i didnt know

[supple dove]

np

[solemn shale]

i can host if u want

[supple dove]

sure

[solemn shale]

ok im ready

[supple dove]

can you do the HM? I've got the other ingredients

[solemn shale]

herbs.

[supple dove]

yea lol

[solemn shale]

sure

[supple dove]

cool. any 2 will work

[solemn shale]

got it

[supple dove]

👌

lol might be a bit too much

[solemn shale]

Tru

[supple dove]

still got the full effect, thankfully

[solemn shale]

ok

[solemn shale]

Um where u at

[supple dove]

station 3

[solemn shale]

k

supposedly you can see both games pokemon if your in the same area so u could also come here and hunt for it

[supple dove]

i can hunt in that area, but I won't be able to spawn Iron Valiant

[solemn shale]

could u come over to test that?

[supple dove]

omw

[solemn shale]

sry i gotta go now

[supple dove]

ok, np

[solemn shale]

: (

maybe later or next time?

[supple dove]

sure

[solemn shale]

ok

bye

[supple dove]

bye 😃

[open cairn]

Hey i have violet, can i join?

[supple dove]

Sure. Have you finished the main story in Area Zero?

[coarse island]

I have! I can help you if you want me to!

[supple dove]

Sure. Just out of curiosity, do you have the Shiny Charm?

[coarse island]

Yup!

[supple dove]

Okay, cool! I'll get a Union Circle set up!

MDNRS9

So, which one do you want to do first?

[coarse island]

Sorry I don't have ant Herbs...

any*

[supple dove]

I have some. Just have to cook together.

[coarse island]

What are you making?

[supple dove]

fairy sandwich. can add pretty much anything, I think.

should be able to add something without needing an herb

[coarse island]

Encounter power or sparkling power?

[supple dove]

both. encounter, sparkling and title lv 3

[coarse island]

Would Cheese be fine?

[supple dove]

sure

based on my previous run, any other ingredients shouldn't change the result

[coarse island]

What condiments have you selected?

[supple dove]

lol there we go

[coarse island]

Were you supposed to do that?

[supple dove]

no bun, you mean? yeah, has no effect. best when making tall sandwiches

so it doesn't collapse

[coarse island]

Thanks!

[supple dove]

so, this would be hunting iron valiant, since it's fairy

can also hunt Scream Tail or Flutter Mane with the same kind of sandwich

do you know where to find Iron Valiant?

[coarse island]

In the cave!

[supple dove]

👍

just let me know when you find the shiny so that I can encounter it and catch it

[coarse island]

Can't the shiny despawn?

[supple dove]

only if you leave its spawn area or run away from it in battle

should stick around otherwise if you wait closeby

[supple dove]

any luck with Iron Valiant?

[coarse island]

Nope I couldn't find one

[supple dove]

wanna try another sandwich?

[coarse island]

Do you want to?

[supple dove]

Sure, I don't mind.

Btw, are you looking for any of the Scarlet paradox shinies as well? I'd be happy to help you with that since you're helping me with the Violet ones.

[coarse island]

Nope! I'm just trying to help you :)

[supple dove]

oh, ok. figured I'd ask

be there in a sec

currently in a battle. mb

ok, done

heading back to the entrance

Iron Valiant

[coarse island]

Are you hunting near Research Lab 4?

[supple dove]

I usually go near 3 for it

can you find it at 4?

[coarse island]

There's a lot of Iron Valiant at 4

[supple dove]

oh. didn't know that

been using that hidden cave with the ground patterns this whole time

[rough walrus]

got room for one more ?

[supple dove]

what version do you have?

[rough walrus]

violet

[supple dove]

have you finished Area Zero? The main story, not the DLC.

[rough walrus]

you could say that LOL. Yea I've finished the game

[supple dove]

okay, just checking lol

sure, if you want to. that would make 3 of us.

[rough walrus]

bet okay

[supple dove]

currently have a sandwich going, but I can remake the union circle afterwards.

about 19 min left roughly

[rough walrus]

kk lmk when ur all gud shiny hunting my top 3 fav bug mon

[supple dove]

oh, do you have any Herba Mystica for sandwiches?

[rough walrus]

4 sweet, 7 sour and 5 bitter

I'll see if I can grind real quick for more

[supple dove]

okay

[coarse island]

@supple dove

[supple dove]

yeah

[coarse island]

@supple dove I found it!

[supple dove]

cool. omw

where should i go?

[coarse island]

Research 4

[supple dove]

Encountered it and fighting it now. ❤️

[coarse island]

Good luck! I hope you catch it!

[supple dove]

Thank you!

so many 3 shakes

crit catch 4 the win!

😄

[coarse island]

Congrats!

[supple dove]

Thank you! And thanks!

gonna head back to the entrance. should we keep going?

[coarse island]

Good luck on your further shiny hunts!

[supple dove]

Oh, thanks! Does that mean you're heading out?

[coarse island]

Yup! Goodbye! I hope you get the shiinies you want!

[supple dove]

Okay, np. And thanks again! I truly appreciate your help!

[rough walrus]

Care if I join rn

[supple dove]

Sure. Just finished the previous hunt.

I'll start a new Union Circle

[rough walrus]

cool

[supple dove]

YX2QBV

[rough walrus]

joinin

so you have scarlet

[supple dove]

yep

[rough walrus]

care if we hunt a great tusk, need one more for a team I had in mind

[supple dove]

sure thing! can we hunt Iron Treads as well, since they both use the same sandwich?

[rough walrus]

absolutly

[supple dove]

sweet

i'll setup a picnic

[rough walrus]

how 'bout we doin the sandwich

[supple dove]

was doing tomato, onion, green pepper, burger and ham. any 2 HM should work. already put in 1

[rough walrus]

sounds gud

didn't realize only 1 my bad

[supple dove]

nw. let's see what the results are

we're good

[rough walrus]

WOW

station 4?

[supple dove]

heading to station 4

yep

[rough walrus]

got it

[supple dove]

I forgot about Dugtrio and Gible line

[rough walrus]

i know

[supple dove]

oh, the sandwich ended

come to think of it, is it possible to make 2 sandwiches at once in co-op?

[rough walrus]

damn, you know idk wanna try it?

[supple dove]

yeah, 'cause they have different secondary types that, afaik, the other Pokemon don't have

[rough walrus]

true, then I'll do a steel sandswich and you do fighting?

[supple dove]

sounds like a plan

[rough walrus]

bet okay

[supple dove]

all set

did you get the steel bonus from yours?

okay, this is much easier

[rough walrus]

yessir

[supple dove]

sweet

glad to know that works

[rough walrus]

let's see what we get

yeah wayy better

[coarse island]

Good luck both of you!

[supple dove]

thanks

[rough walrus]

thanks

[supple dove]

got a shiny tusk here

right outside station 4

[rough walrus]

hol up

here i come

got him

[supple dove]

cool

gl

[rough walrus]

thanks

got him in a friend ball

[supple dove]

Awesome! Congrats!

less than 10 min. not bad

[rough walrus]

thanks now lets find treads

[supple dove]

my sandwich ended. any luck with treads?

[rough walrus]

still searchin got 30 sec left

[supple dove]

oh, cool

[rough walrus]

damn gonna make one. Hopefully this'll be the one

alrite here we go

[rough walrus]

Dude I didn't find a single shiny on my end. I even made an additional sandwich to find one but to no avail.😭 😭

I'll be on later on today to try again

[supple dove]

no worries. it's all down to luck at the end of the day.

okay, cool. I should be around later as well.

[rough walrus]

alritey and again sorry I couldn't find one

[supple dove]

no worries. talk to you later.

[rough walrus]

kk

[coarse island]

It's sad that you couldn't find the shiny, but don't give up! Keep hunting, you'll find it eventually!

[supple dove]

True. Thanks!

[supple dove]

Humidity Bump. iykyk

[supple dove]

Bump...er cars. 😆

[supple dove]

Looking 4 help shiny hunting Violet Paradoxes in Scarlet. Can help you shiny hunt Scarlet Paradoxes.

[quartz elm]

I need help with the same thing so whenever a violet player shows up you can have 2 ppl hunting the scarlet ones for you ig...

[supple dove]

True. Just saw your post. You're welcome to join the Union Circle if any Violet players join this thread.

[quartz elm]

alright thanks 😊

[supple dove]

Area Zero bump!

👀

[supple dove]

The moment the trainers devoured the Herba Mystica, they sealed their fate. Entrusting their future to the sandwich powers, trainers cling to a small hope. Yes, the sandwich is the means by which shinies are revealed. Attaining one's paradox shiny requires an iron will and unfailing cooperation.

[supple dove]

The sandwich is the means by which shinies are revealed. The silent shiny within one's sight whispers the most deserved "congrats".

[quartz elm]

truly inspirational, it brings a tear to my eye...

[supple dove]

lol woke up today and, for some reason, started thinking of Persona 3 boss quotes. So, I decided to put a shiny hunting spin on them.

[quartz elm]

I thought it seemed familiar, i haven't actually played persona 3 yet tho its just been sitting in my cart

[supple dove]

Ah, cool. It's a pretty good game, imo, and I like the quality of life additions that Reload brought. Still lowkey hoping for it to release on Switch at some point.

[coarse island]

How many Paradox Pokémon's Shiny forms have you obtained?

[supple dove]

All of the Scarlet Paradoxes and the Iron Valiant that you helped me catch before.

[coarse island]

Do you want all your shinies to have you as the OT (Original Trainer)?

[supple dove]

Yeah. lol It's a personal preference, tbh, though that does make this task a bit more challenging to complete.

[coarse island]

I can help you shiny hunt a Violet Paradox Pokémon, if you're still interested!

[supple dove]

Yeah, sure!

Is there anything that you'd like me to help you hunt as well?

[coarse island]

Nope! I'm just trying to help you, trainer!

[supple dove]

Ok, np. 😃

[coarse island]

What Paradox are you shiny hunting for currently?

[supple dove]

The last one that I tried to group hunt was Iron Thorns, so maybe we could do that one?

Either one's fine with me, though.

[coarse island]

What type is Iron Thorns?

[supple dove]

rock and electric

so, some slight overlap with other spawns

[coarse island]

Rock doesn't overlap with any other Paradox Pokémon!

[supple dove]

oh, I meant the regular spawns

but yeah, it sounds like rock would be better

[coarse island]

How many Pokémon share the rock type in Area Zero?

[supple dove]

I think it's just Garganacl. Still get some non-Rock types showing up, but I think that's the only other Rock-type.

[coarse island]

I don't think there's any electric Pokémon in Area Zero other than Iron Thorns..

[supple dove]

there's the Pawmi line and Raichu

also, I just remembered that Lycanroc shows up in Area Zero

[coarse island]

If you find a shiny Lycanroc or Garganacl, will you ignore it?

[supple dove]

yeah, I don't mind

[coarse island]

Do Future Paradox Pokémon spawn for you?

[supple dove]

Sadly, no. Only the past ones.

Though I can help knock out the surrounding spawns, I believe.

not really sure which way would be easier

[coarse island]

It would be helpful if you send your Pokémon to auto battles!

[supple dove]

that's what I was thinking. okay, I'll do that, then

[calm arch]

Still available?

[supple dove]

Yeah, I'm here.

[coarse island]

Are you still interested? Sorry I couldn't help you earlier!

[supple dove]

No worries. Yeah, I'm still up for it. Just finishing a Gyarados raid atm.

Okay, I'm ready.

The code is 3RFKR8. If you're free atm, of course.

[coarse island]

Do you have the ingredients?

[supple dove]

yeah

heading to the rock wall to the left of station 2

where are you atm?

just saw an iron thorns. are you at the bottom of the wall?

[coarse island]

I'm at rhe bottom!

[supple dove]

okay. same here

[coarse island]

Would it be efficient to search for one both on the top and the bottom?

Do you have flying Koraidon from the dlc?

[supple dove]

no, but I can climb up the wall

should probably be in the same area either way, though

we got disconnected

[coarse island]

Did you close your union circle?

[supple dove]

no, I didn't. i jumped up the wall and then it said "your group has disbanded"

[hollow turret]

can i join?

[coarse island]

"Your software got closed due to an error"

That's what my switch showed me..

[supple dove]

oh, that's probably what happened, then.

I'll restart the Union Circle.

[coarse island]

I'm sorry for that!

[supple dove]

no worries

[coarse island]

You should try asking @supple dove!

[supple dove]

Which version do you have?

[hollow turret]

I have scarlet

Not dlc or anything

[supple dove]

that's ok. don't need the dlc for this.

[hollow turret]

Ok

[supple dove]

so, we're currently hunting Iron Thorns. Since Fyomin has Violet, they'll be spawning the Iron Thorns, but we can use the auto battle feature to help them knock out their spawns.

should give us more chances to find the shiny

[hollow turret]

Ok

[supple dove]

alright, the code is 71BGNG

[hollow turret]

Sweet

[supple dove]

one important detail, though. if you see the shiny, Scoinsy54, please don't encounter it.

[hollow turret]

Ok will do

[supple dove]

cool, thanks

[hollow turret]

Allg

My name on it is “Ollie” btw

[supple dove]

cool. yeah, I just saw your name pop up.

[hollow turret]

Allg

[supple dove]

ok, let's meet outside area zero

are you ready, Ollie?

...It says you're still at the Pokemon Center. Everything okay?

[hollow turret]

Yeh sorry it’s my first time doing this type of this

[supple dove]

oh, nw

[hollow turret]

Thing*

[supple dove]

just have to teleport to the Zero Gate

[hollow turret]

Yeh that’s the prob I don’t this I’ve unlocked that yet sorry

[supple dove]

oh. well, if you haven't unlocked/completed Area Zero, then I'm afraid that you're unable to help atm.

I appreciate the offer, tho

[hollow turret]

OK sorry

[supple dove]

no worries

[coarse island]

I found a shiny Garganacl! Do you want to encounter it?

[supple dove]

no thanks. already have one

it's yours if you want it

[coarse island]

Oh thanks!

[tall cedar]

fyomin has given 1 Gen Rep to gamemasterseven

[supple dove]

sure thing!

Congrats on the shiny!

[coarse island]

Sorry I wasn't able to find a shiny iron Thorns!

[supple dove]

nw

Found several shiny Zweilous before finding my shiny Roaring Moon.

it's down to luck, really

[coarse island]

There seems to be a lot of rock types in Area Zero... do you think electric sandwich would be better?

[supple dove]

sure, let's try that. I think it's just pawmi/pawmo and raichu, so that might be a bit easier

[coarse island]

There's also Iron Hands!

[supple dove]

oh, true

okay, this is MUCH better

[coarse island]

Are you also seeing spooky magetons in your area?

[supple dove]

yep

one of the past paradoxes

oh crud, I think my game froze.

[coarse island]

Did you disband the group,?

[supple dove]

best guess is an auto-battle KO at the same time as me encountering a Pokemon

this happened yesterday too, now that I think about it

anyway, I'm resetting my game and the Union Circle. sorry for the technical hiccups

[coarse island]

No problem!

I think it would be better if you stay away from my area, because a lot more Iron Thorns started to appear once you left!

[supple dove]

oh, ok

here's the code: 6D6MQ0

makes sense, now that you mention it, as I was almost only seeing Iron Thorns and Sandy Shocks up there

i'll stick to the lower area, then

...egg power?

[coarse island]

sorry I messed up the samdwich

[supple dove]

nw

[coarse island]

I think...

[supple dove]

all good

[supple dove]

the sandwich just ended. any luck?

[coarse island]

Nope..sorry!

[supple dove]

nw

[coarse island]

Sorry the sandwich is messed up again...

[supple dove]

it's okay

[coarse island]

Can you go inside the Research Lab. 2?

[supple dove]

yeah, sure

[coarse island]

Tell me when you're in there!

[supple dove]

just walked inside the station

[coarse island]

You can come outside now!

Do you also also see 5 Pokémon on screen at a time?

[supple dove]

yes

[coarse island]

Sorry... I couldn't find a Shiny Iron Thorns.....

[supple dove]

It's okay. No worries.

Thanks for sticking with me for the past few hours. 😃

[coarse island]

Good luck finding Shiny Iron Thorns! I hope you are able to get one soon!

[supple dove]

Thanks!

[tall cedar]

gamemasterseven has given 1 Gen Rep to fyomin

[white dawn]

Wanna try now?

[supple dove]

Sure. Just gotta start the game up.

[white dawn]

Ok you look for roaring moon and I look for iron thorns

[supple dove]

Sure. Also, found out from the last hunt that Electric sandwich seems to have more condensed spawns than Rock does, as far as Iron Thorns goes.

The code is 0V2LM9

[white dawn]

I have time for inly 1 sandwich

[supple dove]

ok, np

[white dawn]

Yes electric srry for last time

[supple dove]

nw. I didn't know at the time either.

[white dawn]

I caught 2 using electric sandwich

And a lot more encounters

[supple dove]

right

[white dawn]

Srry my connection died

[supple dove]

nw

thanks for your help 😃

[white dawn]

When I have time I will tell you

[supple dove]

ok, thanks 👍

[supple dove]

Spawn Difficulty of Union Circle Paradox Pokémon - Based on Level 3 Sandwich Type and playing on Switch 1:
Easy (Scarlet):

1. Scream Tail - Fairy Sandwich
   Other Spawns (Nighttime Only): Flutter Mane
   VERY Rare Spawns (Daytime): Shiny Flutter Mane
   Easiest Location: outside Station 4

2. Great Tusk - Fighting Sandwich
   Easiest Location: outside Station 4

3. Brute Bonnet - Grass Sandwich
   Easiest Location: Area 4's rocky pillars

Easy (Violet):

1. Iron Bundle - Ice or Water Sandwich
   Easiest Location: Area 4 pathways

2. Iron Valiant - Fairy Sandwich
   Easiest Location: Area 4 pathways

3. Iron Moth - Fire Sandwich
   Easiest Location: Area 1 grassy areas

4. Iron Treads - Steel Sandwich
   Easiest Location: outside Station 4

5. Iron Hands - Fighting Sandwich
   Easiest Location: Area 4's rocky pillars

Normal (Scarlet):

1. Flutter Mane - Ghost Sandwich
   Easiest Locations: Area 4's Lake Area and pathways
   Note: Due to a programming quirk, regular Flutter Mane are unable to spawn during in-game daytime.

Normal (Violet):

1. Iron Jugulis - Flying Sandwich
   Easiest Locations: Area 4 pathways

Hard (Scarlet):

1. Slither Wing - Fighting Sandwich:
   Rare Spawns: 4 Meditite and 1 Medicham
   Easiest Locations: Area 1 grassy areas

2. Roaring Moon - Dragon Sandwich
   Other Spawns: Zweilous
   Rare Spawns: 4 Gible and 1 Gabite; 4 Greavard and 1 Houndstone
   Easiest Location: Area 3's Hidden Cave

3. Sandy Shocks - Electric Sandwich
   Other Spawns: Raichu (grassy area)
   Rare Spawn: 4 Pawmi and 1 Pawmo (grassy area)
   Easiest Locations: top or bottom of Area 2's tall rock wall (rocky area)

Hard (Violet):

1. Iron Thorns - Electric Sandwich
   Other Spawns: Raichu and Iron Hands (both in grassy area)
   Rare Spawn: 4 Pawmi and 1 Pawmo (grassy area)
   Easiest Location: top of Area 2's tall rock wall (rocky area)

Not sure who to ask about pinning messages, but could the above message be pinned? If so, thanks! If not, then no worries.

[quartz elm]

wouldnt sandy shocks also be considered hard?

[supple dove]

I guess. Was thinking more so in terms of different spawns.

though, it does only spawn in that area, so I guess it would be

...Wait, Sandy Shocks is already listed as Hard.

[white dawn]

Are you playing rn?

[supple dove]

sure, I can head online.

[quartz elm]

wait im dumb

[supple dove]

nw 😃

[white dawn]

We can give it a try

I feel confident I can get Iron Thorns

[supple dove]

sure thing

[quartz elm]

i would ask to join but im in a rotom outbreak rn

[supple dove]

np

[quartz elm]

if you guys are still going in 30 mins would you be willing to let me join?

[supple dove]

it's fine by me. would you still be around for another sandwich, Feli?

[white dawn]

Yes

[supple dove]

ok

the code is 4WSJQD

I'll let you know when we're done with our sandwich, Yuegu, if you're free then.

[quartz elm]

alright thanks sm both of you in advance

[supple dove]

...aw crud

actually found the shiny and then IT encountered ME

☹️

[quartz elm]

woah what shiny

[supple dove]

roaring moon. what I'm supposed to be hunting for Feli

[white dawn]

Lol

[quartz elm]

are you not able to run away

[supple dove]

it despawns if I do

[white dawn]

Please ping me my phone goes in stand by

[quartz elm]

aw man

that sucks

[supple dove]

it literally just happened...like a second before I posted. sorry, Feli

[white dawn]

Nw

My sandwich expired

No luck

[supple dove]

ah, I see

still a minute on mine

well, it's not a roaring moon, but I have a Shiny Zweilous here if you want it.

[white dawn]

Its ok catch it

[supple dove]

ok, np

[quartz elm]

are yall doing another?

[supple dove]

okay. heading back to the gate

i think so? Should we keep going, Feli?

[white dawn]

I can keep going

[supple dove]

ok, cool

you want to join, Yuegu?

[quartz elm]

yessss please

[supple dove]

ok, sweet. I'll make a new Union Circle.

New code is KH6PNR

so,we'll have 10 Scarlet spawns with 2 of us. better chance of seeing Roaring Moon spawn.

so you and I will make a group sandwich, Yuegu.

[quartz elm]

alright lets get that green dragon

[supple dove]

already have the ingredients on my end, so you don't need to add much

[quartz elm]

oh oops

[supple dove]

nw

heading to hidden cave left of by Station 3

[white dawn]

@supple dove @quartz elm ok I got it

[quartz elm]

you can have that gamemaster

[supple dove]

thanks

[white dawn]

Top slope

[supple dove]

omw

[white dawn]

Do you know if other pple can encounter it after you do?

[supple dove]

encountered it

nope. disappears upon ko, running away or capture

[quartz elm]

i have no idea

[white dawn]

Cause I don’t see you

But I still can encounter it I think

[supple dove]

we're invisible in Area Zero

[white dawn]

XD

[quartz elm]

nicee

[supple dove]

crit catch ftw! wasn't sure if it had recoil, so didn't want to risk false swipe

either way, thank you SO much! heading back to hunt Roaring Moon

[coarse island]

Congrats for getting Iron Thorns!

[white dawn]

What should I look for now?

[quartz elm]

I also need iron thorns but its up to them

[coarse island]

If you need one, I can help you shiny hunt Iron Hands!

[quartz elm]

well

[supple dove]

sure! And if it's the 4 of us, we can get 10 exclusive spawns from each version. If Feli's still up for another round, of course.

[quartz elm]

found a zweillous

[supple dove]

nice! it's all yours

[quartz elm]

wrong green dragon...

[supple dove]

lol

[quartz elm]

omg

found another zweillous

[supple dove]

lol

[quartz elm]

anyone want this one

[coarse island]

Congrats!

[supple dove]

alreadyhave it and hydreigon, so I'm good

[quartz elm]

shiny luck in full swing today except not for the shiny im looking for smh

[supple dove]

same thing happened in my original hunt for this

[white dawn]

My sandwich expired

[supple dove]

ok. got about 2 min left on ours

[quartz elm]

dang its expired

[supple dove]

yep. had better luck this time, though, so that's something

[white dawn]

Should look for another pokemon?

[supple dove]

Fyomin mentioned Iron Hands. Would that one be okay?

[white dawn]

Ok

That one is better inside the cave

[coarse island]

Iron Hands is available near the deepest part of Area Zero!

[white dawn]

Also electric sandwich

[supple dove]

true

ok, let me set up a new Union Circle.

[white dawn]

I have like 2 extra iron hands but with my OT 😅

[supple dove]

lol

New code is 8WSDX1

[coarse island]

Is there any reason that you want your shiny Pokémon with your OT?

[supple dove]

just a personal preference, really. if it's possible to obtain, then it's just kind of a nice detail to have, at least imo.

[white dawn]

This one is my last sandwich for now

[supple dove]

ok, np

[white dawn]

Ok then iron hands?

[supple dove]

yeah. so you and fyomin would make a group sandwich and myself and yuegu will as well.

[coarse island]

Who are you?

[white dawn]

Feli? XD

I will bring salty herba and pepper

You have spicy herba?

[coarse island]

Yup

[white dawn]

No way

[coarse island]

Sorry the sandwich got messed up

[white dawn]

We got humungo instead of encounter

We are fcked

What do we do?

[supple dove]

do you want to reset?

[white dawn]

@supple dove @quartz elm how did you do you sandwixh?

[quartz elm]

idk gamemaster did it i just added an avocado and salty herba

[supple dove]

tomato, onion, green pepper, hamburger, 2 yellow peppers and any two HM

that's electric sandwich, at least

[coarse island]

The yellow pepper fell off the sandwich, that may be why

[supple dove]

ah, could be

[white dawn]

Really? I thought I put all the yellow ones in it

Ok lets do this

You bring yellow peper and spicy i bring yellow pepper and salty

No way

[coarse island]

Humongo again...

[supple dove]

that's weird. that's the exact recipe that I used

[white dawn]

Ok hear me out

Bring one yellow pepper and 1 spicy (not 2)

[coarse island]

Sure!

[white dawn]

And we will put just 3 yellow peppers the other ones we throw them away

[supple dove]

aw, T-Tar looks so cute when it sleeps

[white dawn]

Finally bruh

Ok

I got it shiny iron hands

[quartz elm]

well that was fast

[supple dove]

already?!

wow

[white dawn]

Yes

[quartz elm]

we havent even finished eating our sandwich yet

[supple dove]

ok lol be there shortly

[white dawn]

Come fast i am afraid it will flew

[supple dove]

which area?

[white dawn]

Station for you go down

Foura*

[supple dove]

ok

[white dawn]

You go down till you se an area cero kind of gravethen your left

[quartz elm]

i see it

[supple dove]

found it

[quartz elm]

niceee

[white dawn]

Well encounter it

[supple dove]

i did lol

[quartz elm]

they did

[supple dove]

Alright, caught it!

Thanks! 😄

[coarse island]

Congrats!

[quartz elm]

big congrats

[supple dove]

heading over to hidden cave

[supple dove]

lol

is that a second one?

[white dawn]

No no

[supple dove]

oh lol ok

[white dawn]

If it were then I would’ve encounter it

[supple dove]

true true

[white dawn]

Another one

[quartz elm]

heading there

[white dawn]

4 station but this time on your left

Right sorry

In that big area

Dont go down

[supple dove]

...Shiny Zweilous again

[white dawn]

Did you encounter it?

[quartz elm]

alright yeah

im with hands

[supple dove]

so cool

[coarse island]

Congrats!

[quartz elm]

thanks! Just gotta get yall this green dragon now...

and probably find another zweillous on the way

um

shiny fluttermane

in the cave @coarse island @white dawn

its marked also

[coarse island]

@white dawn You can go!

[white dawn]

I have 3 shiny flutter mane

You go

[coarse island]

Are you sure?

[white dawn]

Yes I don’t need that one

I want the lizzard and the moth

For now

[quartz elm]

in the cave on the water

[coarse island]

Do you want to keep the Flutter Mane?

[quartz elm]

nah i alr have one

[coarse island]

Thank you!

[tall cedar]

fyomin has given 1 Gen Rep to yuegu

[supple dove]

Zweilous again lol

[quartz elm]

zweillous bruh

you can have that

[supple dove]

...despawned a Zweilous by accident. whoops

really short range

[quartz elm]

yeah i did that earlier and didnt say anything

[supple dove]

lol fair

[quartz elm]

cant let yall know i failed a shiny...

another fluttermane bruh

anyone want it?

[white dawn]

You can get close to it and then open the menu

[white dawn]

Where are you?

[quartz elm]

in the caves

on the water

[white dawn]

I didnt understand that before

[quartz elm]

genuinely ive only seen 2 fluttermane this hunt and both have been shiny

[white dawn]

4 station?

[supple dove]

the cave with the weird patterns and waterfall?

[quartz elm]

the roaring moon cave

[quartz elm]

yeah

[white dawn]

That is close to 3 station?

[quartz elm]

yes

[supple dove]

sandwich ran out

[white dawn]

I dont find that cave

[quartz elm]

its like behind some rocks left from the 3rd station

[supple dove]

i see the Flutter Mane as well. right side of waterfall once you arrive

[quartz elm]

what are the odds of 2 fluttermane with no sandwich but no roaring moon

this game sometimes...

[supple dove]

for sure

[quartz elm]

ima have to tap out for a bit if you guys are still going in an hour or so i might be back

[supple dove]

ok, np. will it still be there if you leave before it's encountered, though?

[white dawn]

I am lost

[quartz elm]

idk im staying next to it til somebody gets it

[supple dove]

ok

[coarse island]

Good luck on your future shinies!

[supple dove]

Thanks!

as for the cave, go to Station 3, then take the path to the left. when the path narrows, there will be some rocks on the left with a hole in them. that leads to the Roaring Moon cave.

once inside, you should see a giant open space with green coloring and weird symbols on the ground

[coarse island]

Sorry gamemaster7, I have to leave now....

[supple dove]

np. Thanks again for your help!

[white dawn]

I will search on youtube

Ok im in the cave

[supple dove]

ok. the shiny is on the right side of the waterfall

pretty much in the corner, tbh

[white dawn]

Ok I encounter it ty

Srry I’ve never been in that cave

[supple dove]

nw

[white dawn]

Captured on luxury ball

[supple dove]

congrats!

[white dawn]

Well I will leave now

[supple dove]

Ok, np.

[quartz elm]

thank you for the iron hands

[tall cedar]

yuegu has given 1 Gen Rep to felipexxi

[supple dove]

Thanks again, @white dawn and @quartz elm , for hunting with me! This was fun!

[tall cedar]

gamemasterseven has given 1 Gen Rep to felipexxi, yuegu

[white dawn]

I will need help with roaring moon in the future

[quartz elm]

and thank you for hosting 🙏

[tall cedar]

You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1745456578:R>.

[quartz elm]

aw man

[white dawn]

Ty @quartz elm @supple dove @coarse island

[tall cedar]

felipexxi has given 1 Gen Rep to yuegu, gamemasterseven, fyomin

[quartz elm]

ill keep helping whenever im on

[coarse island]

Good luck on your future shiny hunts!

[white dawn]

I’m available again if someone also is please ping me, ty

[analog heart]

H8qkgg

[analog heart]

Join

[white dawn]

In process

[supple dove]

oh, sorry. didn't see this. I'm available now if you want to do some shiny paradox hunting.

[quartz elm]

im also available rn

[supple dove]

cool

Looks like Kaotik and Feli might be in a Union Circle already, tho.

🤔

[quartz elm]

yeah i was just with kaotik but had to go

[supple dove]

ah, I see

[supple dove]

The sandwich is the means by which shinies are revealed. Celebrate shinies' splendor...their brilliance...their elusiveness.

[white dawn]

I’m available pls tell me if you wanna play

[supple dove]

I'm free now. Just gotta start the game up.

Okay, all set. Code is GFKTP8

[white dawn]

What should I look for now?

[supple dove]

Would Iron Treads be okay?

[white dawn]

Ok

[loud vigil]

Y’all here? (Violet)

[supple dove]

Yeah. Currently hunting with sandwiches. Have you completed Area Zero?

[loud vigil]

Yeah

I have the shiny charm too

[supple dove]

Nice! Well, got about 15 min left on the sandwiches. Want to join afterwards?

[loud vigil]

Okay. Can you give me a favor later? I need some trade evos

[supple dove]

like a touch trade? Sure.

[loud vigil]

Ok, gimme the code

[supple dove]

have to do it after the sandwiches. sorry.

[loud vigil]

Okay 👍🏻

What mons you looking for anyways

Personally I don’t really like any of the scarlet shinies

[supple dove]

np

hunting Roaring Moon on my end

[loud vigil]

Ah

[supple dove]

SO many shiny Zweilous found

☹️

sandwich ended

[loud vigil]

Aight send it to me

The code not Mons

[supple dove]

lol I know

Link Code is 37773777

[white dawn]

Sandwich ended

[supple dove]

ok

are you online, AJ?

[loud vigil]

Game master I send you feebas, gurdur, and dusklops

[supple dove]

ok

[loud vigil]

Yeah I am

Ok start searching on 3

1

2

3

[supple dove]

...the code's already been entered lol

🤔

no one was showing up. what code did you type in, AJ?

...and they're offline.

ok, then

well, guess we'll start up another sandwich then

[white dawn]

Ok

[white dawn]

Dang all the iron treads look like shiny with the cave light

[supple dove]

oof

found a shiny Roaring Moon. same cave as Flutter Manefrom yesterday

got it in sight. NOT encountering it lol

[white dawn]

On my way!

[supple dove]

roughly on the right side of the green floor

[white dawn]

Encountered

[supple dove]

Sweet!

[white dawn]

Does it have recoil moves?

[supple dove]

nope

[white dawn]

Captured ty

[supple dove]

Awesome! Yw! 😃

Was there another scarlet paradox shiny that you'd wanted to hunt?

[white dawn]

The moth

[supple dove]

Ok, cool

[white dawn]

Sandwich expired

[supple dove]

same lol

back at the gate

[white dawn]

I think I will go eat

[supple dove]

ok, np

[white dawn]

In like 30 min I will be available again, if you can’t then later

[supple dove]

sure, I'll be around then. just post when you're back

[viscid vigil]

I can help

[quartz elm]

Im on

[supple dove]

ok, cool

also, hi Yuegu

[quartz elm]

Is there a particular scarlet paradox you want

[supple dove]

Do you have the Shiny Charm, Abu?

[viscid vigil]

Yes

[supple dove]

sweet

[viscid vigil]

I want those who can spawn on the crystals

on the research station 4 on the cool crystal method

so great tusk probably since he's goated

[quartz elm]

Alright

[supple dove]

ok

just finishing up a raid and then I can start up a Union Circle.

[viscid vigil]

alright

if we find a shiny, how is it planned?

[quartz elm]

If we find one you get it

If you find one then gamemaster gets it

If you find a 2nd one i take it

[supple dove]

but yeah, if you find it, let us know and keep it in sight without encountering it

we'll do the same for you too

[viscid vigil]

alright

we need different locations?

[supple dove]

doesn't have to be, since we have unique spawns, but it might be easier

[viscid vigil]

I see, that's interesting

[supple dove]

you have 5 exclusive spawns and Yuegu and I as a group have 10

basically 5 per person

[viscid vigil]

oh so are the spawns separated?

so if we're far from each other each one gets 5

[supple dove]

sort of. we can still see your spawns if we're nearby, but only you can spawn them. same goes for the reverse.

though any player can encounter them

[viscid vigil]

oh I see I see

which violet exlusives are you looking for?

[supple dove]

for me, I still need Iron Moth, Bundle and Treads

[viscid vigil]

Oh I see

We can share a sandwich and both of us can make ground

so I spawn threads and you spawn tusk

since I am low on herba

[supple dove]

would be best to do fighting and steel, as there are A LOT of other ground types down there

oh, I see

[viscid vigil]

even on the big crystal?

[supple dove]

I don't know. I usually hunt for Tusk by the Station 4 entrance

[viscid vigil]

ohhhh lemme show you a goated place

I used it to hunt for a lot of my paradox

this place feels unreal since it's so goated

[supple dove]

ok. gonna have to direct me verbally, though, since we're invisible to one another in Area Zero

[viscid vigil]

oh I see

ykw I can send you a pic

[supple dove]

sure

code for union circle is L7X8QQ

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but basically when you exit station 4, you have a big crystal there

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right

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so the crytal doesn't spawn anything on it but it's close to a rock

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OH! The giant one in the center, you mean?

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so few steps you spawn stuff and few steps you despawn everything

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yes