it has high stats
#competitive_discussion
rustic mountain
w/ the right ability and partners it might b good, prolly a dual mega kinda thing tho
molten oasis
Bax and, idk
cyan smelt
Fake out + one dragon dance + mega
molten oasis
Probably wants metagross honestly idk
rustic mountain
Bax and, idk
ur own gambit and sneasler
lavish frost
Well it ohkos chomp with ice shard
rustic mountain
love that gif
foggy lodge
What did Thermal exchange do
molten oasis
Or put it into range or ice shard
tiny karmaBOT
molten oasis
What did Thermal exchange do
If it takes damage from fire or wisp it gets a +1
Wait no, it’s just immune to wisp
Which is still big
foggy lodge
Oh it cant get burned true
molten oasis
So hitting it with a fire move sucks lol
Especially if it’s bulkier now
It’s probably gonna love coaching sneasler as a partner
And aegislash maybe
rustic mountain
And glaive rush fckn hurts
ability: glaive shield
wen the pokemon uses a move that leaves it exposed it uses its back as a shield and neutralizes the boosted damage it otherwise wouldve taken while damaging the opponents hp 1/16th
molten oasis
Giga impact bax
foggy lodge
Run the invisible dice and run scale shot mega bax
molten oasis
Skill link could be cool on bax
But I think thermal exchange would be better
I think megas getting shoved onto one role kinda sucks
rustic mountain
Run the invisible dice and run scale shot mega bax
me wen my dragon fang chomps scale shot hits 5 times 
foggy lodge
What other mega could be good
rustic mountain
heatran
rustic mountain
lol
molten oasis
Idt it does
rustic mountain
dude how is scrafty gna exist in a meta even w/ floette and sylveon
molten oasis
dude how is scrafty gna exist in a meta even w/ floette and sylveon
Put it next to sneasler
rustic mountain
i live dire claw, later
molten oasis
Idk it’s probably gonna be ass
foggy lodge
Acting as if your fighting type choice shouldn't be sneasler in the first place LOL
rustic mountain
hahaha
molten oasis
Fair fair my bad gang
rustic mountain
doubt it
molten oasis
Except the the mega after dozo
rustic mountain
which is sus
molten oasis
Even then I’d rather scarf or sash it
rustic mountain
safety goggles
molten oasis
That too
cyan smelt
I do not miss dozo
rustic mountain
drago does
molten oasis
No I fucking don’t
rustic mountain
lmfao
molten oasis
Don’t go spreading around misinformation lmao
Uhm, hm
Mawile should be, fine, eh will it?
rustic mountain
Don’t go spreading around misinformation lmao
rustic mountain
it might b ok
molten oasis
Probably enables tr teams, I guess
rustic mountain
zard y is the main issue
molten oasis
Rain mega maybe
rustic mountain
tru
molten oasis
Hm
Staraptor has good stats
But idk if it’ll be enough
All the z megas are probably gonna suck
tiny karmaBOT
rustic mountain
they seem like single merchants at best
molten oasis
Maaayyybeee?
rustic mountain
eh
pallid hare
Been thinking something given this discussion, but I wanted to ask first. How many megas were genuinely viable in VGC in the first place, back in the gen 6 and 7 days?
molten oasis
Good typing and it’s bulky
rustic mountain
not many megas were good back then
molten oasis
Been thinking something given this discussion, but I wanted to ask first. How ma...
Probably like 6 lol
cyan smelt
I can see mega dragalge sludge wave memes next to telepathy oranguru
molten oasis
Oh the raichus
pallid hare
so, this is basically a case of history repeating itself
molten oasis
Maybe one of those end up being solid?
rustic mountain
so, this is basically a case of history repeating itself
yep
cyan smelt
Is mega kang still viable
rustic mountain
its solid
molten oasis
Viable.
rustic mountain
not even close to wat it was, but def still useable
tiny karmaBOT
rustic mountain
lol
tiny karmaBOT
molten oasis
If that actually gets electric surge it might be solid
rustic mountain
they needed to min max these guys more
molten oasis
Malamar will get tr on switchin guys!
rustic mountain
dude
molten oasis
Istg if it does I’m gonna crash out that’s not a healthy ability
rustic mountain
the abilities they were giving these megas on the beta server
cyan smelt
Malamar is getting ended by one first impression
rustic mountain
"drampa totally gets drizzle"
molten oasis
the abilities they were giving these megas on the beta server
The on hit psychic terrain oj meowstic
molten oasis
"drampa totally gets drizzle"
Okay I think it should have gotten drizzle
rustic mountain
no lmao
molten oasis
It does fit the design and we don’t have a rain mega
rustic mountain
cloud nine into weather setting ability seems kinda broken
molten oasis
It wouldn’t really do anything with the rain but I’d like a rain mega
molten oasis
cloud nine into weather setting ability seems kinda broken
It’s also as slow as a brick
tiny karmaBOT
rustic mountain
more wat itd enable
molten oasis
Ig that’s true
rustic mountain
arch, basc
rustic mountain
yea
sudden remnant
The meowstic one was odd
trace
foggy lodge
Okay I think it should have gotten drizzle
Btw because you are talking about drampa try Agati's team🙂
sudden remnant
but i know for a fact i have way more than that
foggy lodge
zoroark has been surprisingly less annoying in chamoions than it was in SV
Probably because there's no tera so you dont have to cover for 4 fucking different options
molten oasis
I still hate fighting it by yea
sudden remnant
https://pokepast.es/1ff54d73b3ae49de
MIKYUKYU 
foggy lodge
Yeah i still dislike it but you can control it more
sudden remnant
how come the new megas got sprites before the hisuian starters and ogerpon
on pokepaste
foggy lodge
how come the new megas got sprites before the hisuian starters and ogerpon
Cuz the owner of pokepaste abandoned it and didn't give anyone else access to it so they cant edit it anymore lol
sudden remnant
but the new megas got sprites
foggy lodge
They do?
cyan smelt
When's the pokepaste alternative dropping
sudden remnant
foggy lodge
When's the pokepaste alternative dropping
I think you can download an extension to show the other sprites
I have one for the SV dlc mons but not for megas
Most sprites have the base form anyways so whatever
sudden remnant
booo they should show the mega sprites
cyan smelt
Why do all the projects i like get abandoned, that shinyhunt app got abandoned, this pokedex and teambuilder app i used got abandoned and pokepaste got abandoned
sudden remnant
happens with small project stuff
cyan smelt
Adrive has a lot of followers though
cyan smelt
Guess it's hard when you're an independent dev
cyan smelt
Fih
molten oasis
FISH
split stone
People can't be this dumb right.
Using a dragon type move on a fairy type. Can't they read when it says it has no effect on the fucking move but uses the move anyway
And another person did it again
shadow wind
Average Zoroark encounter
cyan smelt
Bots?
sudden remnant
we also gotta consider champions might be some peoples first pokemon games
it is free after all
split stone
we also gotta consider champions might be some peoples first pokemon games
But it literally says has no effect
split stone
Average Zoroark encounter
I also sometimes get fooled by Zoroark
We all do
cyan smelt
This is why i'm glad i have kang to fake out those zoroarks
leaden fox
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2611708914
Just hit 1600+ in this match on Showdown; this team is TOO good xD
cerulean nacelle
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2611708914
Just hit...
1600s and this guy still tried to use fake out against a farigiraf
Christ 🤦
Also mega camerupt mentioned by Aaron zheng 
I been talking about mega camerupt and its good to see him get his spotlight in multiple ways.
leaden fox
1600s and this guy still tried to use fake out against a farigiraf
tbf, I switched into it xD
cerulean nacelle
tbf, I switched into it xD
Even then, predictable switch.
cerulean nacelle
0 iq
Agreed.
I ain't the best doubles player by any means but christ that man was poor
cyan smelt
I am actually embarrassed for him
cerulean nacelle
I swear, if this team gets me to 1700 next 😅
Just try not to fall into bad habits. Playing against bad people can make you fall into bad habits as a player.
As long as you're careful you can probably get to 1700
leaden fox
Just try not to fall into bad habits. Playing against bad people can make you fa...
Oh trust me, even when I was playing all the games up until now; I've been looking properly into the mons that are commonly seen and know what they tend to run or can run
So knowing most of that info, I judge not what can I bring to the match, but what they are likely to bring
Yes I only have the one Mega on my team too; but it's not just the Mega that runs my whole team 😅
cerulean nacelle
Lol I just lost because rock slide flinch. Gotta love RNG.
leaden fox
Yeah, usually certain matches I lose are mainly due to RNG; so know the pain
cerulean nacelle
Yeahhhh haha it's fun
leaden fox
Outside of those RNG moments, I can run my team well
cerulean nacelle
Dude crab is so bad
I love the mon and I love its design. But God damn this crab sucks.
A bit of careful incin pivoting and my camerupt was never in any real danger.
I HAVE ALSO REACHED 100 BATTLES WITH MY GOAT SINISTCHA
LETS GO
Need to remake a mega froslass team im 13 games away from getting 100 battles with froslass.
cyan smelt
If sneaslers are running throat chop i can't run skeledirge anymore or maybe it'll be fine in tr
cerulean nacelle
If sneaslers are running throat chop i can't run skeledirge anymore or maybe it'...
It's not stab and with the right investment skeledirge can tank that hit and potentially threaten a will o wisp.
leaden fox
Good thing about Skeledirge, it's bulky and has Unaware; so that helps; however, Kingambit and Basculegion are rampant atm 😅
cerulean nacelle
Good thing about Skeledirge, it's bulky and has Unaware; so that helps; however,...
Yeah skeledirge does decent into only 1/3 of the big 3 and other big threats it doesn't like either like incin, chomp, ttar, excadrill etc.
I've seen a lot more ttar drill atm.
leaden fox
Skele may do better when we get Tera involved somewhat again
Though could do well in Dynamax too
cerulean nacelle
Though could do well in Dynamax too
Weakness policy skeledirge with dynamax would be so funny.
I used all sorts of bullshit when it was dynamax format but my favourite was gigalith
leaden fox
I remember using Charizard alongside Ninetales xD
cerulean nacelle
I remember using Charizard alongside Ninetales xD
Yeah solar power life orb dynamax zard was a heavy hitter
leaden fox
Yeah solar power life orb dynamax zard was a heavy hitter
Yes it was, especially with my eject button overheat Ninetales xP then switches into lightning rod Raichu
cerulean nacelle
Yes it was, especially with my eject button overheat Ninetales xP then switches ...
That's pretty fun
leaden fox
That's pretty fun
Indeed xD
cerulean nacelle
I do wanna try nasty plot froslass at some point...
Can invest pretty much fully in speed and HP with enough defense to reach 100 so in snow it reaches 150 defense.
Maybe pair with maushold redirecting to get a guaranteed set up.
And friend guard giving even more defense.
next stump
please lord let Aurelien finally win a tournament
this dude is too good to keep getting 2nd
bold geode
please lord let Aurelien finally win a tournament
Real, we need bro to lock in for once
solid frigate
this dude is too good to keep getting 2nd
hopefully he can beat the allegations
bold geode
If sneaslers are running throat chop i can't run skeledirge anymore or maybe it'...
You're fighting the like 1% if so
IS THAT CHECKMATE
Louis needs a miss
NO
YES
IT'S OVER
CHECKMATE
Man that's a great end
foggy lodge
Crit won Aurelien the game lol
next stump
let’s gooooooo
foggy lodge
And an arubega team won again LMAO
bold geode
Ew French people
solid frigate
Bro so Aurelien is French and immediately takes it back
bold geode
@foggy lodge what is this top 8
Dyl Kelsch Louis Marco and Aurelien
Shit looked stacked
solid frigate
Wait it’s Miraidon Zama
Shit I have to rewatch the stream
wild knot
Not fixed yet? https://vxtwitter.com/toki8105po/status/2055954788723077322
indigo coral
Is that real? The font looks slightly off
cerulean nacelle
Not fixed yet? https://vxtwitter.com/toki8105po/status/2055954788723077322
Ayo 10,000 health raichu strat unlocked?
dense latch
Dyl Kelsch Louis Marco and Aurelien
Shit looked stacked
louis is insane what
top 4 and 2nd in back to back weekends
molten oasis
Who’s good with mega feraligatr rn
This guy sucks
molten oasis
And mega delphox
Sneasler and gambit, I like a9
leaden fox
Just faced someone on Showdown; they were flinched by Rock Slide 4 times in a row 😅
I was like "there is no way, right?"
foggy lodge
X
dense latch
mixed dragonite is pretty cool
foggy lodge
Wait its mixed what
dense latch
yea the normal move is espeed
winter fox
I'm glad we are back to bullying Whimsicott
clever root
Teehee
mystic spade
then mamoswine got oneshot by charizard Sadge
clever root
oh he did indeed
however! I had a mega glimmora chilling in the back ready to bash that fraud
cyan smelt
I hope that's not ai
sudden remnant
i genuinely dont know
i hope for the squirrels sake that it is but for our sake that its not
cyan smelt
Looks like ai
sudden remnant
Looks like ai
i mean poor fuckin squirrel if its not
that skwovet got the thanos snap treatment
cyan smelt
Horrifying gif actually
sudden remnant
truly
cyan smelt
That video proves how brainless zard y players are
indigo coral
That video proves how brainless zard y players are
I mean, not really an awful play. They wanted the pin on Mamoswine, forced it to Ice Shard on the way out or die doing nothing, and deemed Garchomp an acceptable loss to take out a threat to their Mega and main attacker
cyan smelt
Yeah but without knowing what's in the back
indigo coral
You don't know what's guaranteed to be in the back, but you only have four options, they know what those options are, they probably understand basic team composition, and they determined either that they could win without it against what you probably had, or that Glimmora wasn't a winnable matchup either way so they had to bank on you making a misplay and not bringing it
cyan smelt
Bringing garchomp against mamo is kinda dumb though
indigo coral
If you don't then you autolose to Glimmora anyways
cyan smelt
Yeah but leading it idk
I personally would have protected chomp and gone with the heat wave
indigo coral
They took the only winning line they could see, which was hope Mega Glimmora was in the lead and lead Scarf Chomp plus Charizard Y to pin it. The fact they didn't Protect means it was Scarf Chomp
cyan smelt
I think i like dragon fang scale shot chomp more than scarf chomp
indigo coral
This is ladder, Scarf chomp is one of the most common sets and Dfang Scale Shot is barely represented
indigo coral
It's also still early season, you're missing the Cybertron effect
molten oasis
that was quick
I tried I really did
cyan smelt
I swear dragon fang scale shot chomp is all over showdown though
molten oasis
It’s just not my thing, and it having this giant target on its back doesn’t help
rustic mountain
I tried I really did
hasnt even been a day 
molten oasis
I don’t like the Mon!
molten oasis
oh there was some mega manectric team w/ ceruledge posted
Looked neat yea
But I believe in what I’m calling snowfox
I’m doing good with it and it feels good so far
nocturne holly
What’s the most fun mega you guys have used so far
rustic mountain
zard y
molten oasis
Phox
cyan smelt
Mega kang, double ice punch is funny af
nocturne holly
Is champions better than showdown
Like it’s so much less work than doing a team in like sv
I bet it’s mad easy now right?
Other than everything needing vp
cyan smelt
Vp is easy to get..for now
foggy lodge
What’s the most fun mega you guys have used so far
Scovillain
Got 1700 in bo1 sd with this team its cool
sudden remnant
What’s the most fun mega you guys have used so far
Banette
solid frigate
What’s the most fun mega you guys have used so far
Zard X+Froslass and that’s it
winter fox
Do you guys think Urshifu will have any viability in Champions with its nerf to Unseen Fists?
chrome knot
yes
solid frigate
It’s Urshifu
If bro can survive a generation where Protect still works against him (Gen 8 Max Guard)
It can survive here
winter fox
Champions can do something really funny by making it not learn Aqua Jet anymore
foggy lodge
It can live without it
They would have to nerf surging strikes/wicked blow to really make it lose viability and it would still be good
chrome knot
i don’t think it’ll change
winter fox
Or they would make the paldea water starter learn it and then nerf it
chrome knot
just typing shit
winter fox
It's just a theory a game theory
chrome knot
ok
indigo coral
They would have to nerf surging strikes/wicked blow to really make it lose viabi...
Didn't they already do that going into ScVi, or am I misremembering?
dense latch
Didn't they already do that going into ScVi, or am I misremembering?
just wicked blow from 80 --> 75bp
indigo coral
Ah, functionally 10bp with guaranteed crit so not nothing
molten oasis
Shifu will be good, it’s not going anywhere
cyan smelt
Not even unseen fist can make mega golurk good
solid frigate
Not even unseen fist can make mega golurk good
It’s a good ability used on a Mega that doesnt like the current meta
cyan smelt
At least they gave golurk headlong rush
molten oasis
It’s a good ability used on a Mega that doesnt like the current meta
No the mega doesn’t benefit that well off of it
This goes for excadrill too
Unseen fist was kinda built for shifu and it’s clunky on others, half the time you have no ability
solid frigate
Also whats the speed btw
tiny karmaBOT
solid frigate
Ok yeah it’s even more awkward to run
molten oasis
It’ll be outclassed the instant Ursa comes back
Yk, even more cus the tr mega is crab rn
solid frigate
Yk, even more cus the tr mega is crab rn
We don’t even need Ursa to prove it was outclassed
Also Gambit exists
cyan smelt
Gambit is slower in tr
next dust
I've ran m. Golurk tr and honestly it's just not it. Weak to WAY too much of the current meta.
I ended up just not bringing him most matchups
cyan smelt
I wish it was better but atp you're better off running base no guard because at least it can hit aero and zard with stone edge
supple latch
is showdown down?
I’ve been asking the same question. Says “can’t connect to the server” for me
timber falcon
Hopefully it’s fixed soon
supple latch
Yeah
cyan smelt
Showdown always be going offline
supple latch
Lucky for me, I think I’ve got enough practice for the upcoming tournament I’m participating in
So I won’t need showdown anytime soon
cyan smelt
I should hop back on showdown, lowkey thinking of replacing sneasler with something else but not sure what else works in tr and mega crab sucks
sudden remnant
mega crab is great in certain mus
cyan smelt
I'm not running snow so idk how good it is
But the urge to hit close combats and ice hammers into things is intense
Probably need something that can ignore mega scovillain
cyan smelt
Idk if that thing works in tr
sudden remnant
it doesnt its quite fast
cyan smelt
Was thinking tailroom with mega aero
sudden remnant
Was thinking tailroom with mega aero
mega aero cares about being burned tho
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
possibly
cyan smelt
I was considering maybe torterra but idk
Smart zard players would know it has wide guard and would hit the weather ball
Garg can't get burned
And is incredible in tr
cyan smelt
I mean there are no good electric or grass types so may as well salt cure water types right
sudden remnant
my manectric is offended, and tsraeena and meow are both offended
cyan smelt
Those are all anti meta picks
timber falcon
I remember starting a nuzlocke but never quite finishing it
Will be sure to continue after exams
cyan smelt
And obviously i wouldn't bring garg against tsareena or meowscarada
It's for scovillain and water types
sudden remnant
tsareena is so good rn
cyan smelt
Anti prio is always good
sudden remnant
its not even that
theres a lot of power behind that ability
that farig can not offer
cyan smelt
Tsareena is more offensive
cyan smelt
I think i would enjoy salt curing zard y
And arch
And gambit and incin
Even with the nerf
And honestly 4x effective on peli is tempting
sudden remnant
chat my honedge is evolving
cyan smelt
Peak
sudden remnant
isnt doublade into aegislash a stone evo
cyan smelt
No?
sudden remnant
cyan smelt
What stone would it be
sudden remnant
dusk
cyan smelt
Oh yeah it might be
tiny karmaBOT
cyan smelt
I wanna salt cure stuff
sudden remnant
i want this goomy to get in the ball
cyan smelt
Catch rate of 45 that might take a while
sudden remnant
lemme check if i have false swipe
cyan smelt
How do u think delphox would take a salt cure
sudden remnant
ifs phys def is horrible so i imagine not well
sudden remnant
rhymes with grug
cyan smelt
Wats grug
sudden remnant
https://tenor.com/view/grug-gif-13923613940177039569
this guy
cyan smelt
At least it's not the ai squirrel
sudden remnant
cyan smelt
So cursed
tiny karmaBOT
cyan smelt
Why
sudden remnant
ive had quick balls this whole fucking time
^
i was struggling to catch a goomy and had fucking quick balls the whole time
cyan smelt
L
sudden remnant
when did i get quick balls 😭
would i be a bad person for boxing my delphox for a chandelure
tiny karmaBOT
cyan smelt
I just dunno what chandelure does better than phox
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
this is for my pokemon Y playthrough dawg
cyan smelt
Oh
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
But horrible against aero and chomp
60/110/110 isnt bad
but anyways im talking about my y play through
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
ah thats why
shadow wind
That was my goat in full potential
sudden remnant
That was my goat in full potential
Virizion?
shadow wind
Yes
sudden remnant
i was wondering why it made the stomping animation when it was thrown into battle
its 200kg
cyan smelt
How is mudsdale heavier than arch
sudden remnant
how is mudsdale one of the heaviest pokemon period
tiny karmaBOT
cyan smelt
It's a horse or a donkey or something
cyan smelt
The heaviest pokemon is cosmoem right
sudden remnant
6th
sudden remnant
The heaviest pokemon is cosmoem right
yes
actually no
the heaviest is celesteela
timber falcon
Why is mudscale so damn dense
tiny karmaBOT
timber falcon
How tall is it
sudden remnant
2.5 meters or about 8 feet
cyan smelt
I miss celesteela
sudden remnant
thank god for body press
mudsdale just has fucking everything
good stats good typing great movepool
even has good abilities (plural)
own tempo is meh but stamina and inner focus are both really good
cerulean nacelle
mudsdale just has fucking everything
I wouldn't say everything lol.
sudden remnant
everything. i said what i said
cerulean nacelle
Just because its been said doesn't mean its right
Otherwise kanye West would've been much more of a problem lol
The main thing a tanky mon like mudsdale is missing is probably reliable recovery ngl.
sudden remnant
which we have items for
cerulean nacelle
But items aren't always a long term solution
sudden remnant
i mean you can’t account for everything on one mon thats why it has teammates
cerulean nacelle
Yep. I'm just saying, the idea that it has everything would make it a meta staple. It isn't.
Mudsdale can work. I ran into a trick room mudsdale team that was honestly quite cool.
But it's not all that.
sudden remnant
if you run into mine its gonna be after you mega lopunny mudsdale
who needs trick room when i can just outspeed you
real prairie
how is mudsdale one of the heaviest pokemon period
sudden remnant
sudden remnant
the only things heavier than it though are space entities and the literal embodiment of the earth
minor miscalculation on game freaks part perhaps?
real prairie
The problem when they base some things on IRL weights and some on imaginary Pokémon weights
The idea the maximum kg in Pokémon is 999 is stupid itself
sudden remnant
celesteela is dexed at exactly 1k kgs
real prairie
celesteela is dexed at exactly 1k kgs
Which is equivalent to a IRL horse
It's a fucking rocket ship
sudden remnant
yes. a space ship from another place entirely btw
regardless mudsdale is fucking goated
and also mudsdale is twice as heavy as registeel
real prairie
I can't get on with it, I expected +4 Def Body press to just flatten things
sudden remnant
the fucking titan of metal
sudden remnant
I can't get on with it, I expected +4 Def Body press to just flatten things
its base def is only 100
its attack is higher
real prairie
the fucking titan of metal
Exeggutor weighs more too
sudden remnant
a tree
weighs more than the fucking titan of steel
what the fuck?
also why is the embodiment of light 500 kgs
real prairie
Exeggutor weighs more than Mega Aggron or Probopass
sudden remnant
also why is the embodiment of light 500 kgs
sorry 500 POUNDS
230 kg
still doesnt sound right for the embodiment of fucking light
mudsdale is actually 5x the weight of the titan of steel
registeel is only 200kgs
WHY IS THE TITAN OF STEEL LIGHTER THAN THE EMBODIMENT OF LIGHT
GAME FREAK WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
and why does the Sun weigh the same as Light
just what
sudden remnant
you mean to tell me the dead jellyfish is heavier than the rhino
why is iron treads lighter than just a fucking dude?
iron treads is lighter than hariyama
real prairie
Because apparently you can't be both fast and heavy according to Gamefreak
sudden remnant
miraidon is both
miraidon weighs the same as iron treads
which also doesnt make sense but im already losing it
woah woah woah wait a goddamn fucking second
why is a BEAR heavier than a fucking TREX???
and why does kyurem weigh the same in its base form as it does in its fused form?
but reshiram and zekrom both weigh more than kyurem?
and why is mudsdale heavier than glastrier
and why is CETITAN heavier than DIALGA?
timber falcon
https://tenor.com/view/tonikaku-kawaii-tonikaku-tsukasa-anime-anime-happy-gif-22...
Never thought I’d see such peak in here
chrome knot
mid
cerulean nacelle
but reshiram and zekrom both weigh more than kyurem?
Well kyurem is the husk of what's left of the original dragon, essentially an empty shell whereas reshiram and zekrom are 2 different ideologies split into different half's of the dragon.
So kyurem being lighter than both does make sense.
leaden fox
Well kyurem is the husk of what's left of the original dragon, essentially an em...
Wait until we eventually get a "Legends Unova" game 😅
cerulean nacelle
Wait until we eventually get a "Legends Unova" game 😅
Honestly I'm surprised there hasn't been an event or something to create the original dragon yet.
We got a flipping 4th genie before that lol
leaden fox
Honestly I'm surprised there hasn't been an event or something to create the ori...
tbf, and if I am right, they plan to do the Legends games in this order: Past, Future, Past, Future, etc
Legends Arceus was the Past; Legends Z-A was the Future, so the past is next
And only three regions have a strong chance for a "Past-era" game: Johto, Unova and Galar
cerulean nacelle
And only three regions have a strong chance for a "Past-era" game: Johto, Unova ...
Hasn't legends Galar already been announced?
leaden fox
Hasn't legends Galar already been announced?
Allegedly leaked yeah, though we'll see
Though likely all Legends games after Z-A will be NS2 exclusive
cerulean nacelle
Though likely all Legends games after Z-A will be NS2 exclusive
Works for me. I have a switch 2.
And I gotta say its so nice to be able to run through caseroya lag or lagtree thicket without going to 1FPS lol.
leaden fox
Works for me. I have a switch 2.
As do I
Yeah, ScarVio are amazing games, the NS1 just held it down a little
cerulean nacelle
Also hot damn, aurorus is based as hell. Tanking zard hits never felt so good.
leaden fox
tbf, Aurorus can take a lot of hits, until Fighting types
cerulean nacelle
tbf, Aurorus can take a lot of hits, until Fighting types
Yeah you can build it quite tanky without even investing loads into HP because your HP already borders 200. Meaning it's tanking and doing good damage.
leaden fox
Yep, indeed
cerulean nacelle
But yeah I predicted that they'd just try and lead chomp + zard Y and it ended up giving me a really easy set up to just get trick room and light screen up on my farigiraf.
People ain't respecting incin
foggy lodge
@shadow wind gotchu
shadow wind
The decay has been astronomical
I’m honestly shocked I’m still top 500
I think I got to 1810 ish then stopped playing cause burn out
mighty stump
@foggy lodge i just did a galaxybrain play
Read the double protect, Leech Seeded my own Kommo-O (because I got RNG poisoned) to secure the win cuz Skarm can’t move freely
spiral ridge
god damn nice
cerulean nacelle
Read the double protect, Leech Seeded my own Kommo-O (because I got RNG poisoned...
Love the kommo-o usage even if you're leech seeding it yourself haha.
leaden fox
<@638505796476469249> gotchu
I know I beat a 1729 player earlier on too 😅
Though it was funny when their Mega Scov (at 7% hp) switched in while one layer of spikes was on the field due to Ceaseless Edge 😅
mighty stump
Love the kommo-o usage even if you're leech seeding it yourself haha.
New team feels very myself so idrc about rank now, I’m just pleased i found sth to play
cerulean nacelle
New team feels very myself so idrc about rank now, I’m just pleased i found sth ...
Tbh I'm the same. I struggled for a while until I found this mega camerupt mega garde aurorus TR.
timber falcon
New team feels very myself so idrc about rank now, I’m just pleased i found sth ...
I’ve been in the kitchen with Kommo-o for a few days now with scovaillain
It’s definitely not for me is the conclusion I’m drawing
sudden remnant
Well kyurem is the husk of what's left of the original dragon, essentially an em...
my question was why was the fused kyurem the same weight as normal kyurem
cuz fused kyruem is no longer hollow
sudden remnant
Never thought I’d see such peak in here
tonikawa
season 1 was goated season 2 was aight
cerulean nacelle
cuz fused kyruem is no longer hollow
Well it's only got half of a part. It's not the whole dragon. It's like if you put clothes on someone. Makes very minimal difference weight wise.
Also it's pokemon, it's all purely theoretical, fuck if I know
timber falcon
season 1 was goated season 2 was aight
Read the manga too so idk if you know but the plot gets a little wild
sudden remnant
Read the manga too so idk if you know but the plot gets a little wild
no, I don’t think I will
sudden remnant
yeah if the plot gets wild i dont think i will
molten oasis
I think this meta is boring and I also just think phox is a fun Mon, even if my heat waves aren’t as powerful
cerulean nacelle
I think this meta is boring and I also just think phox is a fun Mon, even if my ...
Delphox is a fine pokemon. Levitate gives it some good partnerships.
molten oasis
It’s not zard
cerulean nacelle
Well yeah but nothing really is lol
molten oasis
True zard’s just, stupid
Still a personal believe of snowfox even tho it’s definitely not on the power of zard or floette teams
cerulean nacelle
Zard is the most prepared for mon for a reason. Because its very strong even when you know it's coming.
molten oasis
Yep
cerulean nacelle
Literally it's existence made aerodactyl meta
Not just that but it was a big reason why lol
Like that's how meta warping zard Y in such a low power format is.
sudden remnant
I think this meta is boring and I also just think phox is a fun Mon, even if my ...
mega delphox is so goated
it got me to master ball season 1
leaden fox
Just a little note if you have the Mega Stone already that is given out in the BP 🙂
next dust
It’s not zard
Might I suggest testing out trevenant next to it? I've been running Forest curse+ disable trev next to heat wave+encore phox and it's been so fun
tiny karmaBOT
next dust
Everyone always panics when they all of a sudden get grass typing haha
cerulean nacelle
Just a little note if you have the Mega Stone already that is given out in the B...
Oh that's fun. Was wondering about that because I already have gengarite
That's neat.
cerulean nacelle
Everyone always panics when they all of a sudden get grass typing haha
That is kinda funny.
leaden fox
Oh that's fun. Was wondering about that because I already have gengarite
Yep, just found it out myself, so thought I'd share 🙂
next dust
It's been a really fun team. Encore disable lock give em forest curse then heat wave em to death haha
clever root
Mamoswine's strongest soldier
sudden remnant
Mamoswine's strongest soldier
*mamoswines weakest soldier
cerulean nacelle
Mamoswine's strongest soldier
Congrats. I'm very close to master rank with my mega camerupt TR team. Then ima probably just not bother except for dailies.
clever root
I know he was mad as hell
cerulean nacelle
I know he was mad as hell
Lmaooooo
sudden remnant
gen 10 should introduce a priority fire move
left bobcat
MANNNNY
left bobcat
gen 10 should introduce a priority fire move
BLAZE DASHHHHHH 🏃💨
sudden remnant
can they be more creative with the name
cerulean nacelle
gen 10 should introduce a priority fire move
Not every type needs priority
cerulean nacelle
Heat rush?
Also I'd call it something like rapid fire (a play on words)
sudden remnant
Not every type needs priority
no but i think fire should have one
cerulean nacelle
Why
sudden remnant
cuz water has one and grass kind of has one
cerulean nacelle
That doesn't really mean fire needs one.
What fire needs, at least on the physical side is a safer better physical fire move.
If you don't wanna use flare blitz you either have to use fire punch or a gimmicky move.
sudden remnant
or have a signature one
cerulean nacelle
Same with electric. You either have other use supercell slam which is such high recoil that it's risky to use by itself, or volt tackle which is so piss poor.
sudden remnant
like cinderace and hooh
cerulean nacelle
like cinderace and hooh
Yeah cinderace really got the high end of signature moves from gen 8.
And yeah sacred fire on ho-oh and entei is very good.
sudden remnant
and pyro ball as a concept is so fucking cool too
like they cooked with cinderace
idk why it has 2 signature moves but whatever
cerulean nacelle
idk why it has 2 signature moves but whatever
Because fire is gamefreaks (usually) favourite child.
sudden remnant
What fire needs, at least on the physical side is a safer better physical fire m...
also you forgot blaze kick
sudden remnant
better than nothing
cerulean nacelle
It really isn't. At that point you aren't even consistent. You're better off just taking the recoil of flare blitz.
sudden remnant
unless you’re alolan marowak
cerulean nacelle
Or any rock head mon
Singles H-arcanine just loves being banded head smash or flare blitz lol
molten oasis
Scald is on like 5 mons and nobody is using surf
sudden remnant
muddy water
molten oasis
Is 85% accurate
sudden remnant
brine
molten oasis
Is not a good move
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
you didn’t say it was bad. You just said it’s not good.
molten oasis
Having to be at half for a good special single target water move sucks
cerulean nacelle
We need real special water moves
Feels like more of the water moves were geared towards singles. But yeah hydro pump is pretty meh and scalds high distribution was a problem so I'm glad that got shafted.
Imo move hydro pump to 85% accuracy so it's on par with fire blast. That's literally it. No other changes.
I legit never got why fire blast was the same power as hydro pump but got to sometimes inflict burn and also be 5% more accurate.
molten oasis
Feels like more of the water moves were geared towards singles. But yeah hydro p...
It’s still rough
sudden remnant
virizion got aura sphere in gen 9 😨
rustic mountain
We need real special water moves
molten oasis
<:pepogld:816502039483121694>
The option is usually hydro pump or muddy water
That sucks
sudden remnant
or for some its water spout
rustic mountain
its certainly not a huge range, atleast prior to gen 9 scald was pretty common
cerulean nacelle
It’s still rough
There's still a lot worse things. Rock still doesn't have an actually reliable widely distributed physical or special move (power gem is pretty bad) and physical electric is atrocious.
bold geode
@next stump do you know if there is a like fraction like with Lefties recovery or whatever for how much you take from burn chip?
molten oasis
There's still a lot worse things. Rock still doesn't have an actually reliable w...
True
sudden remnant
<@197813560997314562> do you know if there is a like fraction like with Lefties ...
isnt burn 1/8th
bold geode
I heard it was 6% of the health bar
cerulean nacelle
isnt burn 1/8th
Ur giving burn unnerfed salt cure numbers lmao.
bold geode
Oh so I still got fucking robbed 
sudden remnant
Ur giving burn unnerfed salt cure numbers lmao.
😝
bold geode
I got a double protect to stall out a Mega Gengar with burn chip and lost cuz they only took 5% from burn chip
I tried to rob my opponent and the fucking cops got me
cerulean nacelle
I got a double protect to stall out a Mega Gengar with burn chip and lost cuz th...
Damn.
Honestly bad luck has been plaguing me too.
Got confused on my farigiraf turn 1 which resulted in me hurting myself in my confusion and not setting up trick room. And another game I missed a fake out because of bright powder.
sudden remnant
i missed what would have been a game winning cc cuz of bright powder incin
cerulean nacelle
Bright powder being an actual option of an item due to how limited the pool is really does be tilting.
Like I'm running 3 berries on my team, pls give me more items.
Sitrus berry sinistcha, chople berry incin, colbur berry farigiraf the list goes on.
sudden remnant
why is psychic 65 bp in gen 6
cerulean nacelle
why is psychic 65 bp in gen 6
It's not?
sudden remnant
i literally just saw it on my delphox
cerulean nacelle
I do not remember psychic being 65BP in xy
sudden remnant
maybe im just slow
upper zealot
67
upper zealot
wet light
Give Mega Heatran Earth Eater
sudden remnant
Give Mega Heatran Earth Eater
givemega lucario z mega launcher and mega chomp z sharpness
wait no they made mega chomp z special
right?
give mega chomp z a ground version of rocky payload
and also make it keep its electric immunity
wet light
“It’s getting LEVITATE!”
sudden remnant
“It’s getting LEVITATE!”
it better fucking not
cerulean nacelle
it better fucking not
Tbh levitate seems likely lol.
winter fox
I'm using one of these teams in ranked. Idc anymore.
chrome knot
what was ever stopping you
winter fox
The green goblin mask
chrome knot
using good mons is literally fine
cerulean nacelle
I'm using one of these teams in ranked. Idc anymore.
And the most used mon in top 8 is garchomp
my glorious goat, stay relevant
shadow wind
Bro just send me the virus link
cerulean nacelle
Bro just send me the virus link
Lmaoooooo
Big pokemon fan I see
no shit sherlock we're in a fucking pokemon discord
foggy lodge
Bro just send me the virus link
Should be corrected to big Groudon fan
sudden remnant
Should be corrected to big Groudon fan
Dont say g r o u d o n around him he might relapse or smthn
cyan smelt
It's all the fault of big groudon
sudden remnant
sudden remnant
I AM big Groudon
he relapsed chat call the ward 😔
shadow wind
Can’t call it a relapse if I never left Groudon
sudden remnant
call the ward anyways
clever root
Mamoswine's strongest soldier
This is the team I used
Sinistcha came to like 1 game, its purpose is to scare TR teams on preview
shadow wind
100 base spatk is calling and wants to request iron head be used
leaden fox
I know some people do run Trick Scarf Rotom, not many though
mighty stump
Trick Scarf is standard though
bold geode
No Trick Rotom?
Me personally I never really used Trick that much when I used it on ScRotom Wash
strong anchor
But i think its quite valid.
It can criple some mons heavily or force a switch.
E.g. trick a tr setter.
They either reverse TR or swap.
Or fake out user
leaden fox
I remember once using Trick Scarf on a mon with Focus Sash, what a fun moment that was 🤣
cerulean nacelle
This is the team I used
I've used sinistcha so much. Didn't realise it ever got trick room imprison
A TR deterrent I've seen more and more has been taunt incin or taunt maushold tbh
mighty stump
Me personally I never really used Trick that much when I used it on ScRotom Wash
Back in T500 now
for SD
bold geode
Back in T500 now
Im 1535 on the Champions in game ladder do I win anything for that
sudden remnant
bro i just saw a reel eith a crazy point. we should fr have the swsh hym battle theme and the bw e4 theme
gang if i had bw e4 theme in the background id be so locked in ✌🏻
mighty stump
Im 1535 on the Champions in game ladder do I win anything for that
bruh
sudden remnant
Bro I swear I get on that ladder and I form a crater in my head
you mean the crater wasnt already there?
clever root
Draco Meteor is an interesting choice for IDBP Kommo
Incase the MU is too volatile for mamo and they got a chomp, i built it so kommo-o always ohkos garchomp with draco
clever root
No Trick Rotom?
Wym no trick room?
clever root
I personally like Scarf EWeb rn
Its so good
clever root
I've used sinistcha so much. Didn't realise it ever got trick room imprison
Its so funny, i barely am using it tho as many tr teams panic at the sight of it on preview
clever root
I misread sorry, but yeah never felt the need for it
spark siren
Should I replace Aegislash with Clefable (mega) or Sylveon?
I already have a counter to mega floette/sylveon (sneasler)
sudden remnant
mega clefable is certainly a choice of all time 😭
i cant talk much im using banette lmao
spark siren
Magic bounce seems like something not to pass up
polar canyon
Aurorus in the team builder is looking at me funny I wanna use it
polar canyon
Magic bounce seems like something not to pass up
Mega clefable would be good if it was the only mega to ever exist
Like it's not a bad pokemon in a vacuum but it's one of the worse choices when you look at other megas
atomic portal
mega absol the most underrated mega
sudden remnant
mega absol the most underrated mega
true
its such a shame, its design is so pretty
cerulean nacelle
Its so funny, i barely am using it tho as many tr teams panic at the sight of it...
I wouldn't have thought to panic about it lol. New fear unlocked.
Although tbh a lot of the time my lead is just camerupt + farigiraf. So they do have to worry about getting exploded by a sheer force boosted earth power or heat wave
cerulean nacelle
Also on a side note I'm trying out nasty plot froslass with help from maushold and orthworm
And upper hand talonflame is the goat. Singlehandedly made sneasler + whimsicott lead a dud lead.
bold geode
Should I replace Aegislash with Clefable (mega) or Sylveon?
Mega Clefable is dog shit
sudden remnant
Mega Clefable is dog shit
togekiss from temu
bold geode
Man I really like Mega Clef
You wanna know the worst part about Mega Clefable
So Fairy and Flying type right
With that typing
There is idk a certain Pokemon that shouldn't hit you right
You know
One that may or may not be shark shaped
sudden remnant
the chompy
bold geode
Except well
sudden remnant
Except well
rock slide has entered chat
bold geode
sudden remnant
its not clefables fault most ground types learn rock moves
bold geode
The fact you fail to do the ONE THING YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO
Also imma be real
I figured Floette and Zard were neck and neck for best mega
Nah
sudden remnant
I figured Floette and Zard were neck and neck for best mega
floette got mogged by a cat
it does basically the same thing without using your mega slot
cerulean nacelle
floette got mogged by a cat
My brain ain't braining who tf is the cat
pallid hare
sylveon
clever root
sylveon is a cat?
sudden remnant
cerulean nacelle
Sylveon isn't a cat
clever root
its more dog / fox like
cerulean nacelle
It's a weird pink ribbon dog fox thing yeah
cerulean nacelle
Either way... ESTROGEN
sudden remnant
Either way... ESTROGEN
sylveon: “not what i’m called”
clever root
Either way... ESTROGEN
thats the name of my clefable
clever root
my nickname scheme is... terrible
cerulean nacelle
i don’t have a clefable so mine doesn’t have a name
Estrogen 2
clever root
This is the team I used
case n point
cerulean nacelle
my nickname scheme is... terrible
Mine will either be cheesy, thematic or terrible jojos bizarre adventures localisation.
clever root
it started with "GEM ALERT!!!" and my name scheme just lowkey copied that theme
cerulean nacelle
This is the team I used
Fuckin labubu 😭
clever root
sudden remnant
mine is either a meme, a league character, or that pokemons literal job on the team
clever root
Fuckin labubu 😭
if I had no character limit, that mf would be named Dubai Matcha Labubu
cerulean nacelle
mine is either a meme, a league character, or that pokemons literal job on the t...
Lmao so that's why your scovillain is called "Burn Ward"
sudden remnant
i dont have a scovillain
cerulean nacelle
Just... just a joke man...
clever root
i named my rotom heat "DUTCH OVEN!!!"
cerulean nacelle
😭
sudden remnant
why not name it bread
cerulean nacelle
Better than some of the names I've seen on showdown
clever root
why not name it bread
do you know what a dutch oven is
sudden remnant
i feel like i do
but for the plot im gonna say no
my umbreons name is ace cuz its the secret ace of my team
when i was running it
i miss it every damn game i play without it
foggy lodge
How should i name my scovillain
sudden remnant
thats the neat part: you dont
foggy lodge
bold geode
floette got mogged by a cat
Nah I think Floette is still damn good
But it ain't the best
spiral ridge
Pelipper is coming to my town in two days for a week I’m so excited
sudden remnant
Pelipper is coming to my town in two days for a week I’m so excited
don’t get shot down by the bridge
spiral ridge
No big bridges near me and any that are are made of rock so I’ll just punch it
cerulean nacelle
Nah I think Floette is still damn good
I did lose to a floette because all my megas were special attackers and I couldn't beat past calm mind. So it does still have a lot of good qualities.
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
172x1.5=258 172x2=344 172x2.5=430 172x3=516
cerulean nacelle
172x1.5=258 172x2=344 172x2.5=430 172x3=516
You working out calm mind bumps?
clever root
How should i name my scovillain
NICE SPICE!!!
solid frigate
floette is still extremely good tho
i don't think its awkward as well ngl
If anything i prefer Aero having sash and Floette being the mega option (on that specfic Zard Team)
cerulean nacelle
NICE SPICE!!!
Mine is named Hab & Nero
Honestly if it wasn't for how frustrating mega scovillain is, I would use him.
sudden remnant
You working out calm mind bumps?
yes
sudden remnant
floette is still extremely good tho
sylveon does literally the same thing without using your mega slot
sudden remnant
You working out calm mind bumps?
i went with 148+20 cuz 31 iv level 50 and then just went with 4 stat points cuz its the first number i thought of
and just started mathing from there
clever root
I still think the core of Glimm, Mamo and Talonflame is scary as hell
Water types are scary ye and its where mr washed comes in
rustic mountain
i don't think its awkward as well ngl
If anything i prefer Aero having sash and...
that one isnt the best example cuz its more geared to being a zard y team but regardless floette is very good
rustic mountain
sylveon does literally the same thing without using your mega slot
sylveon provides fairy coverage for zard y teams w/o having the other be ur secondary mega, it doesnt mean floette itself isnt justified tho
not necessarily on those teams but in general
dense latch
i wouldn’t call sylveon a direct floette replacement at all like it’s just a different option
rustic mountain
exactly
dense latch
i think i’ve still seen zard floette teams do well
sudden remnant
the damage difference is very small
spiral ridge
dense latch
is it?
sudden remnant
its like 3 or 4%
rustic mountain
i think i’ve still seen zard floette teams do well
floette just won the first official champions tour
dense latch
higher special attack and fairy aura gives a higher boost than pixilate it’s def not 4% more
rustic mountain
idk where that # came from
dense latch
only 4 days left before im fully free to play champions again
sudden remnant
can they please add the bw e4 ost
dense latch
yea i think this was the one i remembered
rustic mountain
6/10 had floette in top 10
solid frigate
that one isnt the best example cuz its more geared to being a zard y team but re...
I kinda only remembered this team cuz I wasnt too invested on this Regulation besides doing Zard X Froslass stuff
solid frigate
Which is like pretty early shit
dense latch
thats a lot of glimm in phase 2
solid frigate
I mean anything against Zard Y I suppose
dense latch
rock poison ground hits like 80% of the meta for se damage it def makes sense
just made me realize how out of touch i’ve been with m-a lol
solid frigate
rock poison ground hits like 80% of the meta for se damage it def makes sense
j...
Don’t worry me too
I kinda just did not play as much thanks to Irl stuff
rustic mountain
thats a lot of glimm in phase 2
its picked up a lot recently
also toxic spikes nice to set to get chip in some mus
foggy lodge
The ladder is full of whimsicott glimmora
I genuinely fought 3 in a row yesterday
I beated all of them tho🦖
molten oasis
I have the power of Delphox and gambit 
spark siren
What is a good incineroar spread/build? I am using one on my mono fire team
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/0817e26ee4964875 i have this rough idea for a team i wanna create and do well with. im a tad stumped with the last mon tho
any suggestions?
cyan smelt
Gambit
timber falcon
to fit what role tho
timber falcon
hm
cyan smelt
But it might be bad because flare blitzes in the sun hurt
timber falcon
im not sure if i wanna commit to hard tr though, now im thinking maybe smth faster
i had dragonite in mind initially
cyan smelt
Aero?
timber falcon
Aero?
this is a shout
good against kangs mortal enemy sneasler, but can be veyr lacking against steel types
this is what i briefly made
supposed to be dragon fang
timber falcon
glim could be secondary mega
and ive been needing a spatacker
wanted a mon that doesnt rely on weather too...
tiny karmaBOT
timber falcon
but it lacks the bulk i want
cyan smelt
Those earth powers will still hurt and you can delay mega for poison chip
timber falcon
Those earth powers will still hurt and you can delay mega for poison chip
how?
mortal spin?
cyan smelt
The base ability
cerulean nacelle
What's the team thus far? Cba to read up.
timber falcon
sets still very flexible i just chose general moves and items
i especially dont know which basc i wanna run
cyan smelt
Do you like muddy water misses
spark siren
Mega gengar needs its ability changed. I hate shadow tag and perish song
sudden remnant
Mega gengar needs its ability changed. I hate shadow tag and perish song
im assuming youve lost to perish trap recently
sudden remnant
Do you like muddy water misses
everyone likes everything misses
unless youre me who will literally run dragon pulse over draco meteor just to not miss
cerulean nacelle
https://pokepast.es/455e9bd17dc1d416
Mega glimms speed is what... 101 or something? It's quite fast. Probably better to have it as a separate speed thing.
sudden remnant
yeah its 101
cerulean nacelle
Literally what's funny is if you ran a -speed nature you'd still outspeed the slowest mega gardevoirs
sudden remnant
by 1 point
spark siren
im assuming youve lost to perish trap recently
Yeah
cerulean nacelle
Honestly mega glimm is so interestingly weird
Like... a very unique set of properties and good into zard Y.
But not particularly amazing into the 3 best mons of this current format (unless you run earth power for sneasler and even then, it's not amazing into it).
timber falcon
Mega glimms speed is what... 101 or something? It's quite fast. Probably better ...
alr
tho if i run modest im hitting 138 max, what is there to really outspeed?
peli?
clever root
This is the team I used
I am thinking of dropping Sinistcha for smth that can be anti TR and can hit sableye and spiritomb better
maybe Hatterene
cerulean nacelle
tho if i run modest im hitting 138 max, what is there to really outspeed?
Uh... I honestly dk...
You outspeed max speed peli but you shouldn't be bringing glimm to that match up anyway.
polar canyon
I lowkey think competitive pokemon would be a better game if they rounded up all moves 80 accuracy and above to 100 even if some had to be nerfed for balance
sudden remnant
I lowkey think competitive pokemon would be a better game if they rounded up all...
i do not agree with this statement
clever root
I do not want gengar to have a fully accurate focus blast no thank you
timber falcon
I lowkey think competitive pokemon would be a better game if they rounded up all...
its fun to miss some moves tho
spark siren
What is a good lead for my mono fire team? Right now, my mono fire team consists of:
Volcarona
Hisuian Arcanine
Talonflame
Incineroar
Heat Rotom
Charizard (Mega Y)
polar canyon
I do not want gengar to have a fully accurate focus blast no thank you
That's not 85 and above
80 I said I mean
polar canyon
its fun to miss some moves tho
Say that after missing 3 in a row or something
I should not start playing while pissed off
Getting shit like double heat wave misses and psychic crit spdef drop
clever root
That's not 85 and above
Okay but 100% accurate will-o-wisps sounds terrible
sudden remnant
yeah but you want your opponent to miss and they want you to miss
it evens out fr
polar canyon
Okay but 100% accurate will-o-wisps sounds terrible
Only when you're not the one using it
If their 100 accuracy wisps meant I had 100 accuracy rock slides I would not be upset at all
cerulean nacelle
If their 100 accuracy wisps meant I had 100 accuracy rock slides I would not be ...
I also wouldn't want 100% accurate zard Y heat waves.
Or 100% accurate stone edges or rock slides. Imagine the fuckin justified terrakion beat up strat with rock slides that he can't miss.
Plus rotom wash would literally have 0 downsides.
Perfectly accurate hydro pumps, ewebs, will o wisps, t waves etc.
I hate missing crucial moves but rng will rng. It's important for the game.
polar canyon
I just think fundamentally having the best option in a competitive game have a small chance of just not working is pretty lame
While yes you can choose the weaker safer option you'll also be at a disadvantage when you use the safe one and the opponents have the strong one as long as they're luckier than you are
Strong moves with drawbacks are awesome but taking away player control isn't
Recoil moves are cool, weather moves are cool
graceful scaffold
im trying a mega blastoise team and i just suck at it lol
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/0cba5ca757523fda thoughts fellas?
spiral ridge
Samu?
spiral ridge
Fair enough ig
cyan smelt
Beats gambit too
sudden remnant
because SCOTTY DOESNT KNOW SO DONT TELL SCOTTY!
sorry i saw an opportunity and took it
spiral ridge
Scared sword is also pretty lit
I love Gallade sacred sword in eeg H so fair
molten oasis
Ye