competitive_discussion

[cerulean nacelle]

Then I am impressed

Lol

I'm just gonna get myself to masters, do not care to get champion. Got other things to worry about

[sudden remnant]

yall will fear me when suicune becomes legal

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[cerulean nacelle]

And mega camerupt has been working fairly well. My team definitely has issues, such as 3 water weaknesses, but it's pretty good.

[sudden remnant]

and then verizion will be my leafeon 2.0 team

[cerulean nacelle]

Nahhhh you run iron leaves 😎

[sudden remnant]

i would but um

grass psychic is very awkward typing

[cerulean nacelle]

Grass fighting is also equally awkward typing lmao

[sudden remnant]

without a quad weakness to uturn

[cerulean nacelle]

But with a quad weakness to flying. And other common weaknesses like fairy.

[sudden remnant]

verizion is BULKY

bro does not care

[cerulean nacelle]

"Bulky"

Bulk doesn't do much when your type is that bad.

rip mega chesnaught

[sudden remnant]

absolutely no one cares about mega chesnaught

[cerulean nacelle]

Absolutely no one cares about verizion either

[leaden fox]

Chesnaught is a good mon, just not bulky enough and too many flying types rampant

[cerulean nacelle]

It's not the flying types lol. Because aero and mega aero still have to be wary.

It's the fairies lol. Mega floette and sylveon are just gonna kick it's shit in

[sudden remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/kon-yui-yui-hirasawa-anime-anime-girl-gif-21014430

[cerulean nacelle]

I say no one cares. I still shiny hunted it.

[sudden remnant]

lmao

i should shiny hunt it. and shiny hunt suicune too

and latias

[cerulean nacelle]

I've got all of those lol.

I got 2 latias, one from ZA and one from dynamax adventure.

I got the verizion alongside the other SoJ from ZA

And I got all 3 legendary beasts from dynamax adventure.

[sudden remnant]

🫩

😔

[cerulean nacelle]

Wasn't easy. I hunted my favourite legend, thundurus so I can have it's therian form shiny and it took 8 months.

And shiny darkrai was a nuisance.

[sudden remnant]

i spent like 3 months masuda hunting a hatenna

i am not keen to repeat the experience

but like suicune and latias have cool shinies. i havent actually seen virizions shiny

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah fuck masuda. Especially the way they did getting eggs in SV.

[sudden remnant]

OH THATS COOL

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeahhhh. Honestly they all have pretty good shinies in the SoJ. But verizion has the best.

It's also it's best claim to fame ngl.

[sudden remnant]

and i gotta hunt all 3

🫠

[sudden remnant]

it was worth it though hatterenes shiny is beautiful

[cerulean nacelle]

They're pretty good shinies

[cerulean nacelle]

I hunted hatterene to get a chosen one mark on mine lol

[sudden remnant]

absolutely beautiful shiny

and then jack gave me my shiny marked raichu

and paul traded me a shiny fih for a perfect iv calyrex for a cir

and i cant remember who but someone else gave me a shiny mawile and a shiny lucario

i wish i could use the shiny mawile

and the lucario will be for play throughs in any future games its in

[cerulean nacelle]

Solid

[sudden remnant]

pretty sure i have it in champions rn

i think my shiny ninetales is still in sv though

unfortunately i need more home storage

[cerulean nacelle]

I bought home storage. I ain't fuckin buying champions monthly thing

[sudden remnant]

i didnt either

i did buy the starting bundle though

[cerulean nacelle]

I really hope they do some in game purchases with VP at some point to give us more space.

[sudden remnant]

true

[cerulean nacelle]

Oh yeah that starter bundle is just good.

Going from 30 to 80 spaces is great. Then as long as you got to master ball tier, you have 100 spaces.

[sudden remnant]

which i did

[cerulean nacelle]

Same

[sudden remnant]

im gonna go for champion tier with leafeon

just imagine leafeon mega banette in champion tier

[cerulean nacelle]

That'd be pretty damn funny

Godspeed

[sudden remnant]

i am adding the fih back

and swapping the worm for noivern

[split stone]

Someone just forfeit. When they were using phantom force I just switch to my normal types and they tried to use the move again and they didn't learn the first time 🤣

[cerulean nacelle]

Gotta love people being stupid

[spark siren]

I changed my team’s moveset up a bit (replaced Meganium with Whimsicott for tailwind support). Looks good?

[cerulean nacelle]

Special arcanine is a choice.

[sudden remnant]

maybe they were scarfed into it?

[cerulean nacelle]

The rest seems fine. If you want, you could do funny self destruct huge power shenanigans

But that's kind of a meme.

[split stone]

They weren't when they used close combat after the first one to try and deal with my normal type

[sudden remnant]

interesting

anyone else playing subnautica 2 today?

[cerulean nacelle]

NO BUT I WANT TO

Subnautica 2 hype

[sudden remnant]

i bought it this morning should be installed when i get home

[cerulean nacelle]

Noice, I watched jacksepticeye play it for a bit.

[sudden remnant]

and if its not im gonna have a generational crash out

[cerulean nacelle]

If it's not, continue your journey to champion rank

[sudden remnant]

me and my roommate share the switch and he has it rn

not really “roommate” but like “housemate” but same difference tbh

hes playing leaf green

[cerulean nacelle]

Fair enough

Hopefully the leaf is green

[sudden remnant]

he keeps asking me if he should have one of his mons learn a level up move

sucks being a competitive player sometimes

he cant enjoy the game the way he should cuz he keeps asking me stuff

[real prairie]

I'm so ridiculously tilted RN.

Was climbing to MB with my usual team and was like 25-2, needed 1 win for MB and think since then I've gone 3-18 or something stupid.

I would have been in great standing to be on target for CT and now it's gonna be another mission. 😭😭😭

I should have stopped playing

[sudden remnant]

i had the same problem

i came back the next day and got master ball immediately after

[chrome knot]

Turn 1

Sneasler, come back!
Go! Garchomp!

Scizor's Scizorite is reacting to the Key Stone!
Scizor has Mega Evolved into Mega Scizor!

The opposing Sneasler used Fake Out!
(Garchomp lost 15% of its health!)
[Garchomp's Rough Skin]
The opposing Sneasler was hurt!

The opposing Aerodactyl used Dual Wingbeat!
(Garchomp lost 20% of its health!)
[Garchomp's Rough Skin]
The opposing Aerodactyl was hurt!
(Garchomp lost 18% of its health!)
[Garchomp's Rough Skin]
The opposing Aerodactyl was hurt!
The Pokémon was hit 2 times!

Scizor used Swords Dance!
Scizor's Attack rose sharply!

i love you sneasler aero players

[winter fox]

I literally just opened the game 😭

[sharp escarp]

I have a labtop that I think might explode if I load up Fortnite

[sudden remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-winds-and-waves-meme-pokemon-winds-and-waves-meme-pombon-gif-9556103065735995896

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-finding-gem-gem-alert-jasswa-looking-for-gem-gif-4573895384736430461

[jaunty cargo]

what megas would be good trick room setters

I know it isn’t really smart to use trick room with your mega but just wondering

[neat dust]

Gard

All I can think of

[jade dust]

So in the most recent interview to the champions devs they confirmed that the other game mechanics will eventually be added

And I really don’t want to play with Dynamax and cringe moves

[sudden remnant]

garde chimecho banette slowbro

[cyan smelt]

Audino

[sudden remnant]

they said “good”

[cyan smelt]

Audino is good

[sudden remnant]

good at doing nothing yes

[cyan smelt]

Why the audino hate

[sudden remnant]

cuz game freak flopped it and it makes me mad

normal fairy had genuine potential to be good

and they found the one way to make it bad

[neat dust]

Audino is bottom 10 mega

[sudden remnant]

even thats an accomplishment

[neat dust]

If you aren’t aware

[sudden remnant]

i was expecting bottom 2 being generous 🫠

[neat dust]

Not even hate just what does he even do???

[sudden remnant]

252+ SpA Audino-Mega Dazzling Gleam vs. 12 HP / 0 SpD Meowscarada: 108-128 (70.5 - 83.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

😐

[neat dust]

Same with Aron

aggron

[sudden remnant]

what?

[neat dust]

bad pokemon even worse mega

bulky megas don’t work

[sudden remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/the-wall-aggron-mega-aggron-gif-22965256

[sudden remnant]

me when i give false information

[neat dust]

Mega Aggron dies to one pelipper weather ball

[foggy lodge]

I mean it isn't that bad but its still really bad

[sudden remnant]

its special bulk is um

terrible

[neat dust]

non stab body press just a waste of stats

[foggy lodge]

iron defense body press hits kinda hard ig and its pure steel on mega which a is a lot better

[cyan smelt]

Mega steelix is better

[foggy lodge]

But it has no recovery so

ggs mega aggron

[neat dust]

I’d never let an aggron get an iron defense off in the first place

[foggy lodge]

nah i dont let them either

[sudden remnant]

and this is why im using mega banette

[foggy lodge]

and like as long as you have an special attacker that doesn't get OHKOd by body press you are fine you just 2HKO it

[sudden remnant]

@cyan smelt im swapping orthworm for noivern with boomburst and im adding the fih back

[neat dust]

I think excadrill dinosaur might be the move guys

[cyan smelt]

Do u like to dragon cheer

[sudden remnant]

i have never done dragon cheer stuff

i considered it though

i have 2 ghost types and 3 mons with protect i can afford to run boomburst

and also it gets tailwind and screech

and the fih is well the fih

im considering using the female fih over the male fih

[neat dust]

Muddy water merchant

[sudden remnant]

my team is incredibly physical

but ofc thats also what the screech is for

[sudden remnant]

ehhhhhh i dont like missing

[neat dust]

then why use it over male

All I can think is muddy water because of those gen 3 stats 😭

[sudden remnant]

surf

shadow ball

icy wind

flip turn (yes its physical but the pivot is valuable)

[neat dust]

Mystic water adaptability is all I can think of

[sudden remnant]

scarf adaptability

thats why flip turn over protect

[neat dust]

good enough you can’t get easy picks even in rain tho

Gonna have to replace aqua jet too

[sudden remnant]

its a sun team the fihs job isnt to nuke

its to get everything in range for leafeon or sylveon or even noivern to nuke it later

[neat dust]

my basc one shots with flip turn and sometimes with aqua jet

[sudden remnant]

might even let ninetales have a kill every once in a while

[neat dust]

Frisk noivern

[sudden remnant]

yes

[neat dust]

😂

[sudden remnant]

i have 2 frisk mons

[sudden remnant]

dont underestimate the value of information

banette has frisk in its base form and noivern has frisk

infiltrator is tempting but im not sure about that

[molten oasis]

The pain of wanting to play vgc in a format that sucks ass

[sudden remnant]

join me in the really stupid gimmick team club

[neat dust]

Until salamence or metagross comes I’m a sableye merchant

[sudden remnant]

me waiting for mawile

[neat dust]

just do it

[sudden remnant]

the thing is i KNOW frisk will give value. infiltrator is not guaranteed to give value

[neat dust]

sableye is common

[sudden remnant]

sableye can catch this pixilate fairy feather hyper beam

[neat dust]

haha

Light screen + berry

That would do like 30%

you can never one shot sableye

[sudden remnant]

which is enough

you forgot the whole point of my team in the first place

excalibur leafeon

[neat dust]

What’s your plan for a heat wave from anyone

I’m looking at this bulk

leafeon def dies to a heat wave from dragonite

[sudden remnant]

wait i can run male basc i have ninetales noivern and sylveon for special damage

[sudden remnant]

it does not actually

leafeon lives zard y heatwave in sun

it does not however take kindly to seeing a gengar

[neat dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/773162458113900574/1417738178835644517/flight-reacts-flight-reacts-stare.gif

It lives???

[sudden remnant]

its a roll very highly in my favor

and also with physical basc and all the spread damage i have who tf is charizard lmao

i have sylveon noivern and ninetales for special damage i can run male fih

i can’t cover every scenario but i can cover most of them

[neat dust]

what will this team do against bridge

[sudden remnant]

sylveon is gonna tell it “just this once” and its gonna take the pixilate fairy feather hyperbeam like a good boy

[neat dust]

Light screen you better be running psychic fangs basc

[sudden remnant]

I planned on it

[neat dust]

aggron has bottom typings ever

[molten oasis]

I care too much about consistency

[sudden remnant]

boooooo

[sudden remnant]

honorable mention to bug grass

[rustic mountain]

ur playing delphox

[sudden remnant]

do not insult the goat fox

[molten oasis]

It’s more consistent than gimmicks

[rustic mountain]

fair

[molten oasis]

Would you say that about zard?

[rustic mountain]

zard is really good

[molten oasis]

But it relies on heat wave

[sudden remnant]

unfortunately zard is top 3 rn

[molten oasis]

Just like phox does

[sudden remnant]

not true it has weather ball and solar beam

[molten oasis]

Phox has psyshock and psychic

[sudden remnant]

who tf uses psyshock over psychic 😨

[rustic mountain]

its less heat wave on delphox and more like zard y is a built weather setter then doesnt just die to sucker or wave crash from gambit/basc. i get the playarounds but it sucks and makes delphox feel awkward

[molten oasis]

Everyone

[sudden remnant]

everyone whos not me got it

[molten oasis]

It’s better into this strangely physical weak metagame

[sudden remnant]

idk bro psychic has yet to do me wrong

[molten oasis]

This format also sucks ass so

[rustic mountain]

im glad its not just me

whose not enjoying it

[molten oasis]

Aw man zard aero sylveon again

[rustic mountain]

dude

[rustic mountain]

thats like every game now

[molten oasis]

It’s so ass

[rustic mountain]

that is theeee team

nd its really good

[molten oasis]

And we have so little tools

I lowkey want them to jump to legendaries like the tools we have suck

[rustic mountain]

whoever can figure out how to counter that and still have manageable mus into everything else (if possible) wins indy

[molten oasis]

True

[rustic mountain]

we just need a bigger dex

[molten oasis]

I think no amoonguss, no metagross, no Mence, honestly no dengo

That was all ass

[rustic mountain]

not even power jump necessarily just more mons

rilla alone hurts basc

[molten oasis]

No Deedee either

[rustic mountain]

right

[molten oasis]

No fucking items like man

If we had CLOAK aero wouldn’t feel as stupid

[rustic mountain]

the items thing i was cool w/ at first, now its like dude this is actually really limiting

[molten oasis]

I want more damage!
Mystic wster

[rustic mountain]

hahaha

yea like i get it for newer players but, if this is the new game for vgc theres always gna b new players coming in

[sudden remnant]

i wasnt enjoying it so im using stupid gimmicks with mons i like to make it more fun

[rustic mountain]

so limited items forever? the logic doesnt work

[sudden remnant]

funny as hell when i win and i cant even get mad i lost cuz i know its gimmicky as fuck

[molten oasis]

See while no specs was nice

[rustic mountain]

i like winning tho

[sudden remnant]

a win is a win

[molten oasis]

Dude I need items to enable shit

Incin of all things doesn’t feel that good which is crazy to me

[sudden remnant]

id rather lose with my homies than win alone

[molten oasis]

I went and played it and just felt unsatisfied

[rustic mountain]

incin?

[molten oasis]

Yes, incin

[rustic mountain]

i was using it a lot early format

[molten oasis]

Early it was totally fine I just don’t feel that way now

[rustic mountain]

once i realized it wasnt doing wat i needed, its been nice

nah even early

it wasnt necessarily that great either

[molten oasis]

It’s, weird

[sudden remnant]

im so glad that cat is getting absolutely stepped on by everything in this meta

[molten oasis]

It’s INCIN but it’s like, nah sneasler basc and you die

No basc checks is also awful

[rustic mountain]

or give gambit a juicy +1

[molten oasis]

It’s literally just gambit

And mega venu I guess

[cyan smelt]

I never thought i'd say this but i miss annihilape

[molten oasis]

And arch, but still it’s so limited

I miss dengo dude I wish we had dengo, and amoonguss

[rustic mountain]

arch is no basc

this format

[molten oasis]

Sini being the main redirector

[rustic mountain]

basc is like hey i have a 2nd mega wats up

[molten oasis]

Like sini is a good Mon, on very specific archetypes

It’s not a widely good Mon

[rustic mountain]

sini is meh

[molten oasis]

Ursa would let tr exist as a playstyle

[rustic mountain]

its still a good mon like incin but they rnt gna b the glue they were in other formats (less sini but u get it)

[rustic mountain]

no flame orb

[molten oasis]

Tr is so bad rn

[molten oasis]

Blursa

[rustic mountain]

ahhh

[molten oasis]

Is also a tr sweeper, and a balance guy

Like no lorb sucks but you get Fari Luna at least

Oh there’s that too there’s no balance

[rustic mountain]

u could do silk scarf

[molten oasis]

I haven’t seen a truly balance team

Everything’s super offensive

[molten oasis]

I think you’d have to since we have no av either

You get silk scarf tr or lefties yawn sets

[rustic mountain]

yea

idt u get away w/ lefties for blursa in this format

[molten oasis]

Zard nukes you

At least agaisnt smth like dengo in reg h you had a chance

If zard hits you you’re probably dead, or floette

[rustic mountain]

yea

or taking far too much for it to matter

[molten oasis]

I think for seasoned players they dropped the ball on this format, yeah

It doesn’t help 3-5 of the new megas actually do something

Scovillain Meganium (is a stretch) Delphox floette, uh, ig just 4

[rustic mountain]

i hate to say i called it that there would b like very few new megas that r good in vgc

[molten oasis]

They also shafted 99% of the megas

[rustic mountain]

they did

[molten oasis]

And said floette could have fairy aura

[rustic mountain]

just like last time

[molten oasis]

Without Metagross being legal which blows my mind

[rustic mountain]

the lack of fairy resists that r good this format is insane

[molten oasis]

Metagross is disgusting but like, c’mon man checking floette is awful

Your option is a specially bulky fire type or a suboptimal Mon

I think Mence would enable balance teams to exist to some extent with gholdengo

[rustic mountain]

corv, aegislash but its still very low

[molten oasis]

It’s so low

[rustic mountain]

like in terms of good mons

[molten oasis]

Gambit, just dies half the time

Sneasler typically can’t quite get the ohko

[rustic mountain]

soon, well hav dengo mence dozo presumably

[molten oasis]

I wanna try Mence dengo that sounds solid

I think beyond zard y being so common dengo would fit right in this format

[rustic mountain]

i just meant as mons not necessarily paired together but yea that sounds solid

they cover eachother well enough

[molten oasis]

Dozo may be a necessary evil

I HATE dozo but I also feel like it would be okay

[timber falcon]

Nothing necessary about that evil

[molten oasis]

We need things to do ANYTHING to change this format

This format doesn’t feel good to play in

While reg h with megas sounds eh I still think it would flow and feel better than reg m-a

[rustic mountain]

more mons

[molten oasis]

Exactly

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

We just need more tools, we have a half empty toolbox

[rustic mountain]

i think choosing 1 of limited dex or items is fine, both? damn dude

[molten oasis]

I also wish they didn’t take out stuff like av and clam

Specs and band? Okay that’s fine, why av?

Was av THAT offensive to the competitive scene?

[rustic mountain]

"why is my attack not doin the damage it did the other game to this same mon"

they dont wanna confuse ppl at all ever but somehow vgc is a game that will confuse ppl always

[molten oasis]

It’s already confusing tbh

[rustic mountain]

i know

[molten oasis]

I see your point tho

[rustic mountain]

my point is its a pointless task to take on

yet they r still attempting it

ur just prolonging confusion ur not avoiding it

[molten oasis]

Next format’s gonna be weird

I’m not sure how they’re gonna continue

[rustic mountain]

for me, im holding out hope on this format and that indy will push it forward

cuz just grassroots is cool but its shown its not gna b the meta defining factor in the scene

[molten oasis]

For sure

[rustic mountain]

oh wait

its like 2 weeks b4 the format ends nvm fuck it

[molten oasis]

?

I thought this lasted 3 months?

[rustic mountain]

isnt it 2?

[molten oasis]

Lemme see

No it ends on the 17th of June

We’re still a month away

[rustic mountain]

yea but indy is may 29th

well get like 2 weeks

[molten oasis]

So that’ll maybe shape up some cores for reg m-b

[rustic mountain]

maybe

[molten oasis]

I hope we get news about that soon then, should be towards then end of them month

[rustic mountain]

i think the 180 new mons we hopefully get shakes it up along with some more fucking items

[molten oasis]

Defensive items please

[rustic mountain]

ur like just gimme av please

[molten oasis]

I get new players don’t get it but they have to eventually

Av gambit feels so much better than chople

[rustic mountain]

or atleast as an alternative

[molten oasis]

Yeah

[split stone]

I'm hoping they add the rest of the megas that aren't in the game yet

[timber falcon]

i just want mega swampert

[split stone]

I want to use the Z megas

[sudden remnant]

im very excited for absol Z

anyone else having this problem 🫩

[real prairie]

What do we think about kings rock pop bomb maus + gravity?

[sudden remnant]

quick claw incineroar. lovely.

[supple latch]

Yes, in fact for me there are so many options to choose from

[supple latch]

How is that legal

[sudden remnant]

lmao

what is this performance bonus

is it cuz i was master ball last season?

[cyan smelt]

Quick claw incin?

[sudden remnant]

i fought one

[cyan smelt]

New meta

[sudden remnant]

and it went off

and i basically lost instantly

[cyan smelt]

Wait, what about quick claw basculegion

[sudden remnant]

ummmmmm

[cyan smelt]

Have u seen any quick claw quick draw glowbro

[sudden remnant]

i used one

[cyan smelt]

Is it good

[sudden remnant]

it did what i wanted it to

[cyan smelt]

At least it's a good sneasler check

[cyan smelt]

Wat r we doing here gang

[sudden remnant]

hm?

[cyan smelt]

Leafeon and banette

[sudden remnant]

yes

[cyan smelt]

Why

[sudden remnant]

i want to

psyspam farig is interesting for sure

DESTINY BOND DID SOMETHING

[cyan smelt]

With meowstic?

[sudden remnant]

what

????????

[cyan smelt]

Psyspam farig

[sudden remnant]

no it did solo psyspam

it was next to toxapex

and they still lose to my fih

womp womp

[cyan smelt]

Wat does toxapex do in this meta

[sudden remnant]

merciless

crits everything

[cyan smelt]

Walled by arch and gambit

[sudden remnant]

walled by arch yes

gambit not necessarily

[cyan smelt]

That thing is super bulky though

[sudden remnant]

this has some unusual mons

although i definitely cannot talk

my whole team is unusual

[cyan smelt]

Leafeon and banette y

[sudden remnant]

and kanto ninetales and noivern

basc and sylveon are relevant so 🤷‍♂️

[cyan smelt]

Hope u like arch

[sudden remnant]

hope it likes sylveon telling it “just this once” and taking that hyperbeam like a good boy

[cyan smelt]

Hope u like ttar exca and aero

[sudden remnant]

ttar exca die to leafeon lmao

and aero dies to the fih

[cyan smelt]

Chomp

[sudden remnant]

sylveon intensifies

[cyan smelt]

Perish trap

[sudden remnant]

i have 2 ghost types

and 3 of my other mons have protect

[cyan smelt]

Why do u have two frisk

[sudden remnant]

can never get enough info

this guy just tried to espeed my mega banette

[cyan smelt]

Why

[sudden remnant]

it was 1hp

🤷‍♂️

aerial ace greninja

interesting

[cyan smelt]

Mega?

[sudden remnant]

no

it was mega ttar

[cyan smelt]

What tier is this

[sudden remnant]

im climbing in the new season its currently great ball

[timber falcon]

You added noivern?

What’s its role

[sudden remnant]

tailwind

screech

boomburst

[left bobcat]

BOOMburst?

[sudden remnant]

yes

[left bobcat]

Why

[sudden remnant]

because i have 2 ghost types and 3 mons with protect

[left bobcat]

Oh OK👍

Just BOOM safely

[sudden remnant]

FAIRY FEATHER WHIMSICOTT? WHAT THE FUCK?

[timber falcon]

Is the damage output even worth it?

[sudden remnant]

yes

[timber falcon]

Yk what I think i see the vision

[sudden remnant]

hurricane zard y

i see lmao

[timber falcon]

Despicable

[left bobcat]

Lettuce wrap

[sudden remnant]

BRIGHT POWDER INCIN

AND I FUCKING MISS

[split stone]

I'm hoping mega lucario Z gets a good ability. To even be as good as mega lucario when it didn't change its type

[sudden remnant]

i hope it gets mega launcher

[supple latch]

All I want for Absol Z is a good ability, it’s my favourite Pokémon and with it getting a new Z- mega, I need it to get a good ability

[cyan smelt]

Vex ur getting tilted

[split stone]

Mega absol Z already has a good typing. So the ability doesn't matter as much

[supple latch]

Have you not seen its glass cannon stats?

Bro is probably dying to something like Disarming Voice

[split stone]

So what if its a glass canon. There are other pokemon that are glass canons as well

[supple latch]

Very well, you win

[cyan smelt]

Faster than calyrex bro

[split stone]

There is weavile and pikachu with a light ball. They hit hard but can't take a hit

And with mega absol z only being weak to fairy it might beable to take a few hits

[cyan smelt]

It looks so cool, we need to know the ability though

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/floette-pokemon-legends-za-pokemon-eternal-flower-gif-16675085403350688675

[spiral ridge]

Just cus no weaknesses doesn’t always mean things can live
Sometimes good resistances are more important and dark doesn’t resist much

[cyan smelt]

I don't think it's taking a neutral hit from gambit

[chrome knot]

also if its paper thin any neutral will just kill

or put it into not recoverable hp

happy happy happy if thats ur mega slot

[cyan smelt]

Wonder if one sucker punch can end it

[spiral ridge]

Does Dark resists dark

[cyan smelt]

Yes but ghost is weak so it's neutral

[spiral ridge]

Oh absols ghost dark okay

Yeah it prolly ain’t taking it well

[spiral ridge]

60 def 65 hp yeah is prolly going bye

[chrome knot]

65 60 60

awesome.

[spiral ridge]

Me when I’m snatched but it makes my bulk spread paper

[chrome knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1074302646883733554/1499105573227204809/Doogloved-4x.gif

[spiral ridge]

Someone said I look like I’d have high sp def recently and I still dunno how to take it

[elder charm]

didnt everyone think absol z was gonna get intimidate 😭🙏

[chrome knot]

id have high spatk

[chrome knot]

aint nobody thought this

[elder charm]

from that one post bro

[spiral ridge]

Nooo? Mega lopunny is physical attacker wdym

[elder charm]

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1353197016166818&id=100044295973136

[spiral ridge]

I’m not checking Facebook

[chrome knot]

this tbh

[chrome knot]

this is true

[spiral ridge]

I’m outside that age range

[spiral ridge]

Intimidating aura means a lot

Could mean unnerve too

[chrome knot]

i mean he looks pretty cool

[spiral ridge]

But also it’s just aura yeah

[chrome knot]

ur getting there

soon youll be old & use facebook

[spiral ridge]

You first!!!

Went on Facebook and EVERYONE knew you and liked your posts but didn’t read them

[chrome knot]

you will NOT believe what form of communication my cities tcg/vgc comm uses

[spiral ridge]

HAHAHAHA

Have fun grandma

[chrome knot]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HGs27TiboAAyQGr.webp

[spiral ridge]

Don’t forget your team sheet next to your dentures!

[spiral ridge]

Don’t lean too much without your cane

[chrome knot]

wtfffff ill kill you

today i had to do surgery on dawn

[spiral ridge]

Wh??

[chrome knot]

her ring fell off

i have dusks shark atm she has lucy

[spiral ridge]

Ope

Had to reattach ring?

[chrome knot]

yeah just had to retie it

i snuggled her too hard and it fell off ig

[spiral ridge]

Very complex surgery

[chrome knot]

yesyes

[spiral ridge]

Would look like toph chasing me

[elder charm]

chase wouldnt last very long smh

for you at least

[spiral ridge]

I’m talking

https://tenor.com/view/work-tlok-the-legend-of-korra-avatar-toph-beifong-gif-19886112

One with 30 years of back issues

And ofc Idt Emma can earth bend she’d be a water bender

[chrome knot]

you underestimate mrs athlete

[spiral ridge]

Oh right you were cross country,,

Uhhh
Pocket sand!!

[chrome knot]

noo worse i was short distance which means this chase will last maybe 5 seconds for you

[spiral ridge]

Oh
Uhm

[chrome knot]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HGh_iqkXwAAAr7s.webp

[spiral ridge]

Steals your legs

Now who’s faster

[chrome knot]

throws a brick at u

[spiral ridge]

I saw that yes throw a brick at yourself

[chrome knot]

dont u dare

[spiral ridge]

Dare what

[chrome knot]

my msg came first i was

typing at u typing bc i knew what u were gonna say

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-10424631540387331656

What are you talking about..?

[chrome knot]

how do i politely wake up dusk i wanna play borderlands

[spiral ridge]

Well you seem to have an abundance of bricks and sharks to throw

[chrome knot]

unfortunately shes over the phone until june

which reminds me i can’t wait bc itll be both of our birthdays yay

[spiral ridge]

Again close bdays wow

[chrome knot]

yus

[spiral ridge]

Neat

[chrome knot]

10&14

[spiral ridge]

This time I remember which is yours

[chrome knot]

14

[spiral ridge]

No

[chrome knot]

yes???

[spiral ridge]

I still have the note looking like that

I would not forget

[chrome knot]

its june 14 & dusk is june 10

[spiral ridge]

I’m not suffering this humiliation again

I hope she doesn’t wake up for another two hours

[chrome knot]

wtf

ive been like trying to wake her up shes gone gone

[spiral ridge]

Now it’s deserved

Ima spray lavender on her pillows

[sharp cobalt]

I'm making a team for a tiny tourney, tailwind offense, I'm just trying to consider more powerhouses. Probably gonna run Mega²nium, Mega Phox, Vivillon, which pokemon would round it out nicely? I'm considering another supporter and 2 offensive threats

[chrome knot]

and now shes awake

[spiral ridge]

Fuck
Uh
Knocking her out with lavender pillow

Gonna blame it on the lavender part

[chrome knot]

all ur doing is making it smell like me

my current shampoo atm

[spiral ridge]

You smell like lavender?? That’s based fuck

[spiral ridge]

Chomp and vivi were a good combo in reg H

If you’re always going for tw then basc is good or prima and then ig just Sneasler it’s Sneasler

[leaden fox]

How's everyone doing in the new season (aka, part 2 of M-A)

[elder charm]

yea i know

that part was obvious

chase still wouldnt last very long

[sharp cobalt]

I'm sadly lacking Sneasler and Basc shinies

And as the resident shiny hunter, I must have a full shiny team.

[spiral ridge]

Then sounds like ya gotta go hunt

[sharp cobalt]

Pelip is decent with Mega²nium right?

[sharp cobalt]

The tourney is in a few hours

[spiral ridge]

Yeah
Meganium will keep fire weather ball and 1 turn solar beam

Mega sol

[sharp cobalt]

That makes 4, just 2 more decent atkers

[spiral ridge]

Chomp?

You want smth with rock slide fo easy zard wipe and you now have quite a few mons that can be next to an eq

Actually legit all of them can be

[sharp cobalt]

Kek good point, let me look for my shiny Chomp. I know I've got one somewhere

[spiral ridge]

And you prolly want smth that can take care of floette so

Flare blitz incin you want a FO anyways

Just gonna have to play around your own rain

Delph can prolly hurt it a lot too

[sharp cobalt]

Hmm. Could Tink work?

Fake out, steel type

Incin takes neutral from M Floette

[spiral ridge]

Yeah sure fuck it

[sharp cobalt]

Fg tw uuuh

[spiral ridge]

That’s
Not great for a team reliant on tw speed wise

[sharp cobalt]

Pollen puff, struggle bug?

I know but I like Viviii

[spiral ridge]

Make sure it’s sash at least

[sharp cobalt]

Yes

[spiral ridge]

I think you can go sleep powder cus it’s ability

[sharp cobalt]

I'm running friend guard

[timber falcon]

Friend guard vivillion???

[spiral ridge]

Ahh
Uhh
Maybe don’t 😭
Compound eyes makes hurricane and sleep powder lot less gamble but if not eyes then idk your set

[sharp cobalt]

Yea!!!

[timber falcon]

Compound eyes + sleep powder is one of the only reasons you should be running that thing no?

[sharp cobalt]

Or friend guard!

[timber falcon]

With rage powder too?

[sharp cobalt]

That and tailwind are my reasons

[sharp cobalt]

THAT'S THE MOVE I WAS LOOKING FOR

[sharp cobalt]

-w-

[timber falcon]

Might as well name it sacrificial lamb

Why not smth like volcarona

Sure it doesn’t have friend guard, but it sets up tw has better bulk + can burn opponents and get rage powder

Vivillion acts better as disruption with compound eyes, else you’re kinda forcing a weird role onto it I think

[sharp cobalt]

Most players aren't good at this tiny tourney afaik

Double fire type isn't an issue?

[timber falcon]

Oh yeah you got a paste?

[timber falcon]

Depends on the rest of the team

[sharp cobalt]

Nooo

[sharp cobalt]

So far ots uuh, Mega²nium, Mega Phox, Pelip, Tink, Chomp

[timber falcon]

You have good enough coverage to run double fire

[sharp cobalt]

Vivi was gonna be the 6th

[timber falcon]

And with a berry volc can tank rock slides that you’ll be weak to

[sharp cobalt]

Wth do I run on Tink...

Fake out, gigaton, knock, twave?

[timber falcon]

Probably something like fake out + encore

I don’t think knock off is worth rn

But if you think it’ll help go ahead

[sharp cobalt]

What for the 4th move?

[timber falcon]

Can go feint to get rid off opposing protect

Or just protect

Really depends on the role you want it to fit

[sharp cobalt]

Disruptive and fairy killer

[timber falcon]

Then I’d try feint

[sharp cobalt]

Evs max spe/hp?

Jolly

[timber falcon]

Maybe, but you can try a set on munchstats

[sharp cobalt]

What for our toilet birb

[timber falcon]

Tink sets

Since ur running encore probably high speed

[timber falcon]

Why’re you running this with delphox btw?

Seems a bit of anti synergy

[sharp cobalt]

I was gonna run phox with Vivi

[spiral ridge]

Can just go protect

[sharp cobalt]

And birb with Megaŵ

[timber falcon]

Even so, why have rain on a team with a fire type mega evolution?

[sharp cobalt]

Cuz good option with Mega²

You would run Volc with Phox and Pelip with Mega²

[timber falcon]

Why not commit to the rain mode then with a more synergised mega with that mode

[sharp cobalt]

Cuz I have one

Mega²

[timber falcon]

I meant with delphox. Arguably, you don’t want meganium and pelliper on the same 4 as delphox correct? That limits your options

If you changes delphox for something that runs better in rain or even takes advantage you could make a more versatile team

[cerulean nacelle]

OTOT is right. There are certain synergistic pokemon but they aren't really working all that well together.

[sharp cobalt]

But also more predictable and easier to shut down

[sharp cobalt]

I'm aware, but also, it's a low power tourney that really doesn't require that much extreme synergy

[timber falcon]

I’m not saying hard rain, just something that isn’t inhibited by it

Like anything but a fire type

[cerulean nacelle]

^

[sharp cobalt]

No Volc either then

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah volc is just gonna get murked by basc

[sharp cobalt]

But you all came with the idea for Volc and I'm limited in my mega options

[cerulean nacelle]

I literally just joined lol I ain't said shit

[cerulean nacelle]

What mega options are there. And list our ur current team. Ik you have peli, volc, mega delpox and mega meganium rn.

I don't know the rest because I'm joining in pseudo late

[timber falcon]

That was me lol

Forgot to mention delphox doesn’t have to be the one to go

[cerulean nacelle]

Honestly I ran into someone using compound eyes sleep powder vivillon. It was annoying.

[sharp cobalt]

Tink, Chomp

I'm running full shiny though and Phox was an easy option

[cerulean nacelle]

Chomp is just all around pretty good. Tink is underrated as a fake out user that can actually fake out farigiraf because of mold breaker.

[timber falcon]

Cybertron made a vid on it, covering some Japanese teams iicr, I’ve seen some playing the team more often now

Oh to have such influence over the ladder

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeahhhhh viv is deffo kinda relegated to sash but it is the most accurate sleep powder by itself which is almost always a draw.

[timber falcon]

The set was using scarf 😭

[cerulean nacelle]

Oh damn they just went all in on fast sleep

[timber falcon]

But half the people have no clue how to run scarf viv so it usually ends in a comfortable victory

[cerulean nacelle]

Sheesh. I've only seen sash.

If I had a nickel for every time I saw sash vivillon, I'd have 3 nickels

[timber falcon]

sash is definitely the normal way

[cerulean nacelle]

If I had a million pounds every time I saw scarf vivi, I'd be broke as shit!

[sharp cobalt]

What should Phox' replacement be

[timber falcon]

The full team

[timber falcon]

I mean it doesn’t have to be phox, when creating this team what was the initial plan?

To be built around

[sharp cobalt]

Mega² and Phox, tailwind

[leaden fox]

As much as I like Delphox's Mega, wish it wasn't Levitate 😅

[sharp cobalt]

Pelip is a natural ally for Mega² and Vivi was the original tailwind

Then someone came with Chomp, and Tink as an opposing fairy killer

[cerulean nacelle]

Big man blastoise

[timber falcon]

I just don’t see the synergy between the core of the team. No matter how I look at hit, phox despises peli even if meganium benefits

[cerulean nacelle]

Honestly levitate made the most sense. Giving that kind of mega the ability to use expanding force would've been stupid. Now you gotta work for it.

And an immunity is always worth.

[sharp cobalt]

I mean, you also run only one of the megas

[timber falcon]

Somehow I think it made it better in this current meta

[sharp cobalt]

I'm not gonna run Meganium with Phox

[leaden fox]

Yeah, atm it is worth it, at least until we have terrain setters on switch ins/leads

[sharp cobalt]

Base Meganium doesn't do shit

[cerulean nacelle]

Even then, delphox doesn't really care.

You just wouldn't run it with indeedee, it eats rilla alive and electric and misty terrain aren't gonna be good until tapus

[timber falcon]

Idk with how fast delphox is itd make a KILLER psyspammer

[leaden fox]

biggest issues atm for it are Rock Slide scarf mons + priority moves

[cerulean nacelle]

It would've been stupidly good. Because unlike alakazam it's got a secondary typing to make sure it isn't just a 1 trick pony.

[cerulean nacelle]

Rock slide is always gonna be prevalent. But if mega zard Y showed us anything, it's not the be all and end all.

And delphox can actually take some rock slides.

[leaden fox]

If you put some bulk in, yeah

Honestly will say, love my current team I am using on Champions

Only times I have lost is just due to low chances of flinches 😅

[leaden fox]

Any two to three mons one would want to be added in M-B?

[mighty stump]

Dondozo, Weezing.

Where did everyone place at the start btw rating wise

I’m trying to figure out the current average

[spiral ridge]

Actually a mega meta with abilities disabled would be interesting just cus so many get new ones

[mighty stump]

I winstreaked into MBall pretty smoothly with only two losses and I got placed at 1600s flat and i was like huh

I didn’t perform half as well in M-A and got 1800s to start

[spiral ridge]

I think monkey was 1655

[mighty stump]

boooo im with Monke

[spiral ridge]

Yeah it seems everyone’s getting put lower

[spiral ridge]

My condolences love

My WiFi is still not consistent so I just watch lol

[leaden fox]

I suspect Weezing may struggle, but that is me xD

[leaden fox]

I'm curious how strong Dozogiri will be in M-B if it happens

Though hard to say since I know we would need to see how the meta shifts to know how viable it can be; but with Mega Tatsugiri, could see more usage of it

[spiral ridge]

Man annoying orange really let himself go

[mighty stump]

Im sick of Espathra pass ok

Like what is this

I really don’t want to have to pull out my own gimmicks cuz it’s like so one-dimensional to play and I don’t see how it’s fun

At least Zardslop is honest kek

[foggy lodge]

Nah fr I hate it

Where is Indeedee atleast Espathra psyspam would be legit

[leaden fox]

Thankful that I can deal with Espathra atm; my team only needs one move to counter it xD

[bold geode]

It's ok I'm like 1640 now

But also yeah same I was in 1800s last season when I hit Master Ball

Also just
Add fucking Amoonguss plz

[mighty stump]

Well i’m 1700s at the moment

just climbed

[bold geode]

I kept getting a game away from 1700s and losing

I actually got so pissed off yesterday that I just
Went to bed at like 9pm

[mighty stump]

I think it’s time I just hard reset my brain and start running whatever nefarious idea hits my head

I might just take a break tho

[bold geode]

I lost quite a bit to RNG I'm not even gonna lie

[bold geode]

Bro gonna take a break until Reg Master Master Ball Ball

[mighty stump]

HAHA

Its either run AeroZard

Vivillon Sleep spam

Espathra pass

I haven’t seen Zard X balance yet

[bold geode]

ILCA give me Amoonguss or I riot

[indigo coral]

Obligatory, "it's a game, you are meant to have fun, play however you want"

[mighty stump]

Well competitively it’s clear there are “correct” ways to play depending on the meta-game

[bold geode]

I'm having fun I'm just a masochist

[mighty stump]

Having fun and winning sometimes are mutually exclusive

[indigo coral]

You say that, Wolfe got 6th in the GCS with Perish Trap and Entrainment OHKO moves on the same team.

You really can win with almost anything, just a matter of proper team synergy and player skill

[mighty stump]

Everyone really be leaning on that huh

[bold geode]

Its Wolfe

[indigo coral]

Iron Treads won worlds in a restricted meta. Iron Treads

You can make most things work if you know how

[mighty stump]

Shit well Suica got 1st in Season 1 with standard slop so that’s better ig

Plus

Restricted meta breeds more creativity due to increased slot efficiency

I climbed easily with Snorlax in restricted formats lol

[bold geode]

I think you're taking the wrong lessons from stuff

[mighty stump]

Karen quote 5head

[indigo coral]

You say that like Toxtricity didn't top cut a Regulation H regional. Regulation H in particular had some wild mon choices on winning teams

[bold geode]

5head Deez Nuts

[mighty stump]

I’m not willing to discuss this, you have your views, I’ll have mine

[bold geode]

Imma say what a friend told me

Mon didn't win, player won event

[mighty stump]

And I can rephrase - More stronger mon options = more efficiency per slot = more room for wack

Logic remains

[rustic mountain]

whered it put u this time

[bold geode]

Just cuz player won event with Bidoof doesn't mean that everyone SHOULD run Bidoof

[bold geode]

1655

[rustic mountain]

[indigo coral]

Oh no, the Karen quote is obviously meant to apply to story playthroughs of single player content. But we've seen time and time again of strange mon choices winning major events that no one had even considered as resembling viable. Someone won a regional with Illumise on their team.

As I said, with the right team synergy and enough player skill, you can make almost anything work

[bold geode]

Yeah but it doesn't mean there's not better options

[rustic mountain]

almost anything? nah the mon has to fit into the meta and have a niche, theres a lot that goes into why they fit in vs hey im just gna use x or y

[bold geode]

And typically you wanna use the better options unless it just REALLY fits a specific niche

Ex. iron treads

[mighty stump]

Niche mon choices with fundamental logic doesn’t make teams anymore creative when you run 4-5/6 of the same important Pokemon

The “right team synergy” you mention still just use the same meta stuff

it’s not really innovating, it’s just creating a variation. At the same time, winning an event then proceeding to not have any widespread usage; that’s more about the player than the Pokemon

[rustic mountain]

or makin a specific meta call that works for that tour but doesnt quite carry the same effectiveness going forward (tyos articuno team)

[mighty stump]

Otherwise I’d be touting my Snorlax varianti as a new wave of Calydow

Clearly they still stick to the same rules one does when building

[bold geode]

Ho Oh last worlds

[rustic mountain]

id say more ho oh at the 1st regional of reg i

[mighty stump]

It’s so odd when people talk to me about creativity as if I’m a meta-slave though

[unkempt flax]

So I’ve built this awesome Snorlax trick room team with Mega Manetric and Gallade.. it is lowkey so much fun, but I struggle against teams with 2 ghost types. My other moms are Incineroar and Farigiraf.. whom has foul play.. any advice for a final slot? Just reached masterball with it, and it’s doing amazing, just I hate how much brain power I need to use to win against 2 ghost types teams

[bold geode]

Nah the World's run was crazier

[bold geode]

You use Basculegion such a meta slave

[mighty stump]

Sinis with Kasib and Shadow Ball or Scrappy Kanga

[unkempt flax]

Thanks!!

[mighty stump]

Otherwise Torkoal + Farig means Basc doesn’t really hit you very well

is it BDrum or Curse?

I’m gonna assume Curse lefties

[unkempt flax]

What if I wanted a secondary mega? Any ideas that I could use. Curse with thick fat, lefties and ice punch as coverage

[mighty stump]

Kanga can be your secondary if you run Sucker and Hammer Arm

choice to not Mega keeps Scrappy so you can have some degree of flex

[unkempt flax]

I have no clue why I didn’t think of that seeing I used mega Kang last season lol

Thank you so much, I’ll test it after work

[bold geode]

Bro y'know what argument I also love

The one where it's like oh smaller pool of mons means more diversity

[sudden remnant]

what?

[mighty stump]

You know I sorta thought Champions would be a bit more encouraging with prospects to discussing but so far I feel like I’ve been meeting a bunch of OG yous

It is a lot less fun than I remember

[bold geode]

LMAO

[rustic mountain]

i think its more lower power = more diverse but if anything the lack of items and mons shows completely otherwise

im not sure how this would compare to a 400 regional dex given how many nfe mons thered b that arent relevant but still the 180 we got feels very limited

[bold geode]

Yeah but the people arguing that basically think less mons means you won't see the same shit all the time

Like a meta won't develop

[bold geode]

It is insanely limiting

[rustic mountain]

well yea theres always gna b a meta, i think this one is a bit overly centralized w/o proper consistent alternatives

[bold geode]

Yeah before there was one clear best but you had all these options

Now it's like who's the best out of 2-3 options

[rustic mountain]

a lot of mons that arent bad they r just outclassed

and because of lack of other mon options, they arent able to fulfill any substantial counter meta or niche

[cerulean nacelle]

Story of like all my favourite mons.

mega manectric my beloved

[mighty stump]

It’s also failing to consider that sure, you can play against it, it’s not unbeatable, but the thing is it’s never a sure answer

That’s the frustrating part

[bold geode]

And them putting in Basc with no grass or electric coverage that's good is a crime

[mighty stump]

Unironically through testing I found Scarf Rotom-Mow pretty ok

No one seems to run Scarf Basc anymore at least from what I can see anecdotally

[rustic mountain]

theres that 1 japanese rain mega manectric team that did well last szn

[mighty stump]

Yeah Mega Manectric isn’t bad

[bold geode]

I think there's definitely less sure answers this format cuz there's just not enough good tools

[rustic mountain]

right

[mighty stump]

Like

I can climb with

Technically anything

Just depends on how much “effort”

[rustic mountain]

thats the thing, its really just ok

[mighty stump]

Just like everything else

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah my point was, not bad, but just not typically worth picking over other things.

[mighty stump]

MLop? ok

I tried Mega Glim

ok

[rustic mountain]

mega dnite, ok

[mighty stump]

I tried Mega Garde, ok

[cerulean nacelle]

I tried mega audino... no

[mighty stump]

I played everything as standard as can be and itms all just

ok

[bold geode]

Meganium was good but I think it's slowly edging to ok now

[rustic mountain]

mega venu was cool for a sec then it just was ok (for me atleast)

[cerulean nacelle]

Nah I'm joking I ain't touching mega audino with a 10 foot pole.

[bold geode]

I've been climbing with it yesterday

[mighty stump]

A team that requires a whole lotta effort to position for to win may be more “skill expressive” but why do hard work when you can do less

[bold geode]

Pretty good but still like idk

[rustic mountain]

me moving to zard y

working so hard for every win was genuinely not enjoyable

[mighty stump]

yeah exactly

[bold geode]

Yeah the thing is there's also just not enough to make those skill expressive teams as consistent

Genuinely Amoonguss would help out a lot

[cerulean nacelle]

I'm enjoying mega camerupt but I have it paired with mega garde for whenever I have to fight rain.

[bold geode]

Mfer would be like Jesus rn

[mighty stump]

Like did I have fun controlling and winning games with Snorlax? yes

[rustic mountain]

or ull hav the counter to the standard zard y stuff but u just hard lose/hav unfavorable mus into most other solid teams

[mighty stump]

Did I have fun playing so hard to position? no

[rustic mountain]

dude, rilla alone makes bascs life more annoying

[mighty stump]

Funnily enough

[rustic mountain]

and having the slimest margin for error while ur opponent doesnt

[mighty stump]

Yerp

[leaden fox]

I just want my Metagross 🤣

Also, would be nice to have "Weakness Policy" added to the game xP

[mighty stump]

Metagross in a Kingambit/Basc metagame might still be painful

[leaden fox]

Well, Metagross has a lot of def than spdef 😅

130 base def

[rustic mountain]

200 bp last respects dont care

[mighty stump]

I did get a clip of Snorlax 1v1ing Zard in the red

[bold geode]

Him too honestly
Just something

[mighty stump]

Played perfect to the end

[leaden fox]

Only if Basc is the last one

[rustic mountain]

nice

[mighty stump]

Incoming Rindo Basc

[rustic mountain]

lax actually does match well into standard zard comps

[bold geode]

Lmao

[cerulean nacelle]

Adaptability makes it so that after 1KO, that base 100 last respects effective is 200.

When you're at your last mon you effectively have a base 400 power move.

[bold geode]

I think Max said he saw a Colbur Basc once

But yeah my money is on Amoonguss

[rustic mountain]

colbur basc is a thing yes

[mighty stump]

I played Colbur Basc

[bold geode]

I think the format would be better if we just had another good bulky redirector that wasn't Mega Scov

[cerulean nacelle]

Wdym, my boi maushold is so bulky

[rustic mountain]

yea basc is genuinely 2nd mega level in end games

[cerulean nacelle]

He sacrifices the kids first... top tier bulk.

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeahhhh he's just cooking.

[mighty stump]

Don’t get me started on Mega Scovillain

[bold geode]

Mfer had to run Chople or Sash to not eat shit to a CC

[bold geode]

Ok I wanna know your opinion on it

[mighty stump]

Again, AeroZard slop has tools into it for free while everyone else has to weirdly slot into it

[leaden fox]

Well I know there are many who wouldn't let it stick around so easily xP

[cerulean nacelle]

Ik, I am taking the piss.

Technically we have volc but volc is gonna die to basc or rock slide. So... yeah.

[mighty stump]

when it’s not technically common enough to have to counterslot

[bold geode]

Mega Aero is on every Mega Scov team but that ain't always enough

[rustic mountain]

again, frustrating

[cerulean nacelle]

Even if you don't wanna let it, sometimes it isn't always possible to stop it.

[bold geode]

Thing is I've played Mega Scov and it doesn't feel crazy consistent

[leaden fox]

I run Mega Aero; but no Mega Scov xP

[mighty stump]

Honestly - I just savrifice one Physical attacker to get rid of it

[cerulean nacelle]

Mega aero my glorious goat.

[mighty stump]

Yeah because of Zard

[leaden fox]

True true, but luckily have a team that can deal with Basc atm

[bold geode]

Nah I always just used Mega Aero against that

[leaden fox]

even deals with King

[bold geode]

But like when I would bring Mega Scov like

Imma tell y'all honestly and this sounds stupid as fuck

[cerulean nacelle]

My team kinda can't which is fuckin awkward. Like there's pseudo answers but nothing specific like kingambit for it on my TR team atm.

[bold geode]

The way you deal with it is you choose what gets burned

[mighty stump]

yep

[cerulean nacelle]

But that's also because I'm cooking with my glorious goat aurorus

[mighty stump]

One thing I have to say

[leaden fox]

You may hate my team since it kills TR 😅

[mighty stump]

There is a severe lack of people taking advantage of Helping Hand

[rustic mountain]

tru

[cerulean nacelle]

Depends how lol

[rustic mountain]

i was thinking of running it on sylveon hahah

[leaden fox]

Imprison Farig with Hyper Voice, Protect and Trick Room 😅

[mighty stump]

I’ve been playing this and Lax-Aegi makes for a very fun lead

[bold geode]

Like honestly Mega Scov either feels incredible or it feels dogshit and it all depends on what you burn cuz I've legit lost games after burning 3/4 mons cuz I didn't burn the ONE THING that I needed to

[rustic mountain]

fissure

[cerulean nacelle]

Oh I actually don't care about that. I have a sinistcha specifically quicker than farig to outspeed and set up TR and then force pressure.

[mighty stump]

Bail out card into Espathra pass although Yawn makes short work of it

[rustic mountain]

scov feels precise w/ that and sustain, getting ur leech seeds off into the right targets, knowing wen to rage powder and protect

[leaden fox]

TR is -6 or -7 priority, would be impossible

[rustic mountain]

oh for sure, i just mean i hate seeing fissure on the other end

[mighty stump]

Lmao

[cerulean nacelle]

Not when you just don't set up TR and focus on letting mega camerupt take out the imprison mon lol.

[mighty stump]

The hard part is my coverage considering I utilise almost all the tools equally

Wide Guard is good for Bo1 stuff

[leaden fox]

May be hard with my lead next to it xP H-Samurott

[mighty stump]

HH Poltergeist hits like a truck - you KO Zard and put things into range for a Sneak

[cerulean nacelle]

Oh if you using mega samurott then I just use garde lol.

[bold geode]

Oh also Scov teams have like no Rain MU if they don't have a weather guy LOL

[mighty stump]

Hm

That

Gives me an idea actually

I think I know what to play

[bold geode]

Yeah its a very slow guy

[leaden fox]

Faced a similar team to yours before on the ladder; overcame it with three mons left

[bold geode]

Also sometimes you gotta gamble on Moody LOL

Honestly that's the fun of Mega Scovillain

[leaden fox]

Plus my team can deal with all but 1 team on the ladder; but that team is not always matched up against me 😅

[mighty stump]

I just accept the fact when i just dont want to deal w sth and just go next

[bold geode]

I'm too stubborn for this sometimes

Oh @rustic mountain Btw JJ dumb as hell

[cerulean nacelle]

Just tan into round sylveon and dragapult. That was funny. Strat easily got countered by sinistcha.

[mighty stump]

Doesn’t Sylveon’s Round follow up just delete Sinis or does this not trigger if the first Round is immune

[keen sigil]

Anyone with team building expertise willing to help me with adjustments or just help build a team around serperior, I have a current team and am currently back in masterball 4

[bold geode]

Serperior is in the game?

[cerulean nacelle]

Didn't trigger. Plus my other mon was mega camerupt. So even if they went into mega camerupt, that fairy type round did less than half.

Then I played the stall game with life dew and just deleting pokemon with sheer force boosted earth powers lmao.

[leaden fox]

It is yeah

Shame the Pledge moves aren't

[cerulean nacelle]

Tbh serp really ain't eating well. Even in singles.

The para nerf really made the glare sub set worse.

[bold geode]

What does Serperior even do now

[leaden fox]

If the Pledge moves were still in Champions; then it'll be good; but for now, not so much

[bold geode]

Sit the bench?