#competitive_discussion
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yep thats good
The crazy part is
50/50s are pretty good odds.
I have finally figured out something for my own play
Is this to throw off chople gambits
Gj tofu
the sneasler specifically or just in general?
in general
nice
took me a bit to get acclimated to the format
I mean I ran what I like to still call @foggy lodge rain to 2300s and then fell while testing new wave Balance
so im hovering 2200s or so now
I just wanted to start something I’d be happy with
yea thats where im at, was gna aim for champions but idt ill make it at this point w/ the time i have, gna hopefully try for top 1000 atleast
I have solved all the kinks but I think I’m in a satisfied spot where my brain no longer tortures me
hell yea
My team now that I have Tsareena
awesome, always a good feeling wen that something clicks
I run black glasses gambit and now been too lazy to change it
I let that motherfucker die
hahahah
Lmfao
I ran mono-dark (Sucker) and Iron Head/Low Kick for a bit
It was ok but I ran into too many situations I wanted to click Kowtow
right
yea iron head feels bad to drop but i usually prefer the double dark fighting and protect in most cases
My current take is as good as Floette is Sylveon is the top fairy type
sylveon just more splashable
I did iron head
My WiFi been broke for three weeks so haven’t been in to edit shit I rly need to
Floette is more polarising to your team while Sylveon is glue
What r u trading for Mystical Fire
mega floette generally paired w/ mega zard y makes that tough
Yur
? im running detect moonblast hyper voice quick atk
i meant fire fairy w/ zard and sylveon
great 4 yea
hahah yep basic ass team
but really the only one ive played w/ ive felt solid playing
So far I have seen more Bascs play more bulk
everything else was like good for a sec then crumbled
Rinya Sun type beat
woodtofu has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco.

i played actually a few other teams in that rinya sun format that i felt better w/, idk so far in ma i was bouncing between mid megas then i got to play zard and was like damn this is an actual mega
Pokemon Champions in three years
Nah that team was cool asf
i dont remember that ever being a thing
Indeede can do more than Psychic Surge lol
im aware
Terapagos 🥹
Terapaflop
Sableye is genuinely so infuriating
ok bro chill
Its like the one pokemon i cannot stand
it did well like once in a regional
What did sableye do to you
i think i remember who used it
The usual: encore > disable
Never even set up rain
whys it on 2 different regional listings, and an internats?
thats why im confused hahaha
Encore and disable is so expected I just run fake out/quash and rain dance and reflect/ls
i guess some ppl tried the team out afterwards
thats wat i mean like this random ass team i had no idea existed made the finals/won all 3 of those?
maybe it’s from someone’s twitter
i feel like ive been transported to another reality
The Cybertron Effect
i think what they mean by final is the final version of the team
ohhhhh
Pretty sure the og image means finals as in "final team im bringing to this tournament"
And then there’s the issue of trying to disable or encore a dark type 😂 😂
I just remove it
i was confused for a moment there too
I do it so many times
yea i completely misunderstood im like dude this team did not make finals/win this event am i bugging or something

The goat
the funny part is he always says to change the moveset or item in bo1 of a commonly used mon/strat/team and use it to ur advantage yet ppl still just load up the replica/rental
i’ve always been and always will be a sableye hater
Drifblim is here for an amazing reason
Volcarona no quiver dance
Its honestly really cool
People forget that Volca has the same spa as Flutter Mane
3 different Sableye for all of my teams I hope I run into yall
jumpluff is another mon i have an irrational hate for
🙁
fuck sleep powder in general
make no mistake, sableye is freelo i just think its unbased

it’s like a mosquito
half a Geomancy
Whimsicott is free elo
I’m a sneasler merchant
was gna say depends on ur team, whims is an actual good mon
sorry maxi nothing against the mon i just don’t think it’s nice of it to smile as it just sleeps and encores my team to death
sableyes like, oh u didnt guess this random move im running? sorry
but then u still win anyway
dont talk shit about jumpluff you will lose against one at lima
lmao
oh i’m sure
Yeah the one i fought had ls,reflect, encore,disable
i hope no one brings it though would be very nice
i mean maybe 1 guy
That groudon cir pluff team is really cool
I thought it’d have rain dance so it basically cooked my pikachu when i saw arch
Next time im using Meganium and blasting the shit out of it with dazzling gleam
wat is even happening in reg i rn
mdb said he tried banded scale shot dnite at his local and said it was better than outrage so i might test it out
i’ll trust the guy that took the team to too 8
in reg I i played with that team and ended up in a 1v1 against sneasler and fought i lost cuz usually pluff doesn't run attacking moves but then realized that pluff has pollen puff LMAO
And i have tsareena to cook disable
groudon cir? 
Silly set, I’d rather make your whole team do less damage then have to make a read on a switch
Toxapex being a goat
groudon cir pluff is what justin tang brought to worlds
did he even do well
and to the most recent regional
I think he got top 16 recent regional
not bad for groudon
Yeah and Junxi too with the same team
weirdest meta call ever
7-3 worlds
is it cuz it walls koraidon?
Yeah
Yeah its really cool with pagos
t32 i think
basically
Walls koraidon zama kyogre
Has wide guard and can outstall leech seed CIR
i hope no one learns how to run that team in the two weeks left for lima
damn
And like you just poison things while having +1 def +1 spdef pagos next to it and you just win from stalling
i would prepare that they do hahaha
the less scarf mirai i have to face the better
Unless this is after sws but then Groudon instead of koraidon is still a choice
how does pagos sit infront of koraidon tho
With the seed
koraidon isn’t really a strict groudon upgrade
Electric seed
it’s generally better yea but that doesnt mean it fully overshadows it
so u live 1 and then wat
And you have sash sinistcha to redirect too
Yeah sini
I find Groudon is so difficult to make useful idk what sets do yall run
Clam or AV are like its best sets
Its thing is being bulkier and being a ground type
It gives it a niche over Koraidon
I try to run Tera ground because normal Groudons spatk doesn’t justify running eruption
tera fire heat crash groudon is what typically does the best
pblades hhp heat crash and protect if you’re clam random coverage if av
why tera ground if tera fire solves for offensively and defensively at the same time
Specs earth power lessssss gooooooo
Cuz I forgot heat crash and fire punch existed and I like to sweep
you reminded of that one fucking bo1 groudon team with choice specs eruption next to jumpluff😭
Choice specs eruption is definitely a choice
A choice specs 👓
need to find someone that plays pagos to test lines with asap then lmao
the team matches up really well into fedecampo lunala mirai so im hoping i match into that a lot
Just run torkoal at that point
Why was there Groudon conversation and no one told me
Cuz ummm
groudon groudon grudon
Cuz it’s specs Groudon
LORB torkoal 🥀
Calyrex avoided the attack!
Incineroar avoided the attack!
That’s why ERUPTIONNNNNNN
Kyogre victim
I’ll run helping hand Groudon next to scarf eruption Entei but that’s as close as I’ll get
Honestly it legit did well in Reg G
Cause they can’t fake out either
I’d run choice band xerneas draining kiss before ever specing groudon
had to keep the groudon talk going
Truly
Choice band liquidation kyogre is better
This is not true
oh thought we were talking about precipice blades
CHOICE BAND WAVEEEEE CRASH 💥
on who
Kyogre
this guy needs to be stopped
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Nvm it does not learn wave crash
What yall think of choice spec mega beedrill
Sucker punch
I wouldn’t put a physical move on beedrill
That’s illegal!
It’s gotta have max difficulty
No I’m saying a sucker punch can obliterate it
Quick attack
Haven’t seen ceruledge or armarouge in master ball once
I have only once tho
I didnt realize I was so high on sd ladder until I looked it up
I thought my gxe would be way worse than this
I was using this acct to test awful ideas that didn't work out lmao
so I lost a lot with those lmao
fast speed tier that can hit hard in certain mus, idt its necessarily good but atleast thats wat ive seen
Alright I'm going to bed
Satan introduced itself with Psychic Politoed against my Sneasler.
cuz its good
thank you for telling me politoed gets psychic in champs i will be adding politoed to my next rain team
naganohara_vexae has given 1 Gen Rep to andersaac
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Probably sth to try but eh
it's not the highest rating ever but I've used mlop to get to 2300 on cart
Fastest fake out user, has some good MUs like sableye/arch/gambit and you can even fake out basc and stuff
can punish your opp playing defensively with encore while having fake out to sometimes force defensive plays
is faster than base aero and mgar which is nice at times
Anything above 1800 is mad impressive
Well you're way nicer than me lol
I said to someone before that if you aren't like close to mb2 or like top 3000, you're low elo

ur aware cart starts u out at 1800 for mball

one guy hit the supposed floor was like 863 or something
they did it on purpose from my understanding
I think you only calibrate at 1800+ if you have a good w/l ratio
o
I think most ppl got calibrated to 1600-1700
thats where it put me i just assumed
gotcha yea i guess i just assumed wrong
Someone also said having a high winstreak also helped calibrate you to higher ratings?
Not sure on that cuz that was basically a he/she said moment lol
i could see that, used to be the case in other games ladders ranking into other tiers and such and even within mball u had a winstreak usually it jumped u further
Showdown
You posted a showdown screenshot though 😭😭😭
It put me at 1900 when I got mb
i started at exactly 1800 🫠
and then lost 3 games in a row
and then got right back to 1800
swords dance? 😄
my friend wont play deadlock with me he hates me chat
me getting a w on my 3rd game after losing my previous 2 games
real
it doesnt help my team is quite unusual
The team I've been running on cart has been kinda weird too
and then i changed it and made it somehow more weird
I was running this except Farig over Vivillon
I just started testing Vivillon yesterday cuz y not
I noticed I haven't been bringing Farig in my latest games
im running mega delphox tsareena umbreon araquanid gallade and sneasler
i have a solo mega and then 2 type cores fwg and dark fighting and psychic
Umbreon doesn't seem like it has a lot of particularly good MUs in the format
I know it becomes viable when there's some bs like Caly that umbreon walls
umbreon solos a lot of the megas running around rn
is it froslass and gengar
and even ones it cant fight itself it can support the mons on my team that can
and anyone trying anything funny with golurk and chandelure
and more
I have not seen a single chandelure on cart ngl
same with golurk
I think I saw one when I was laddering to mb
i did and they absolutely got nuked by my moon kitty
All we get for watching VGC is a Blastoise... I guess that's the price of moving to Champions. No partner ribbon for the first event distrib. Hopefully they come back for future Champions events
They want us to do mega blastoise cheese
gross
Where’s raging bolt when you need him
Isn't blastoise faster and can ko with dragon pulse
No tclap with the giraffe
I also brought my Weezing 🔥
does anyone know what evs floette are running rn
Probably some physical bulk? Special bulk is already high
im asking cuz i wanna calc how much my ft will do to it
Depends on if it’s a cm set or not
I always just calc against max hp and like 16 defense
The light of ruin sets are scary
And then my hopes are crushed cause nothing kills
🫠
I’d rather that than dkiss
so yall got nothing for me
Nope
sadge
Just go on Munchstats or something
Calm mind draining kiss, it's just like having calydow back
munchstats has champions now?
Have u hopped on bo3 ladder yet conner
Not really
I don’t see a point in it for me
I went 3-0 then realized that I’ll never actually need to do bo3 games in champions
No shot they’re running max speed 😭
thats what it says
I mean I’m not arguing with the numbers
another set is 32 hp 32 spa and 2 speed
I just know I’m not running into max speed sets
also modest
That’s how I’d run floette
Me neither
i havent done the za infinite royal
nor do i plan to
i havent even completed the swsh pla plza or sv pokedex yet no way in fuck am i doing the infinite royal what is it 100 times??
It's a p2w pokemon, you can get it if you buy the dlc
i really should complete the swsh pokedex i want a shiny keldeo
i have the dlc
I want the shiny volcanion
only other ones i care about are latias suicune and verizion
wasnt shiny genesect available during sm
I wasn't playing back then but it must have been available during oras/xy
isnt there also a pokeball magearna still claimable in sm to this day
Not pokeball
im watching this new romance anime and so much has happened in 3 episodes im lost
Oh speaking of that i have 3 mons that i need to claim the pokeball magearna
Does it matter if it'll never be legal
170!?????????
Everyone gonna be using it in the joke mythical format
Shift gear
like rapid spin terapagos was a thing for a bit
Terapagos so painfully mid
if only tera starstorm stayed normal
but gained the effect of being super effective to terastallized mons
that would have been so much better
Terapagos without tera is gonna be so sad
pagos was sad even with tera
but tera will come back eventually with the omniring right?
Surely, they showed donbozo with tera in the trailer
All i ask is that calyrex and tera never be legal at the same time again
How does umbreon do against tera fairy calm mind draining kiss
eat that shit for breakfast
altaria is crazy for not even taking 50% from +6 defense body press from corviknight
i mean it is still resisted
Cotton guard altaria?
nah
was it mega altaria?
regular
I mean both resist it
75/90
27hp/20+def/19sp.def
it enabled me to win with perish on enemy stall
+6 defense body press is still very strong even if resisted
Is mega altaria just temu mega gard
yes
idk if I should just go all in on defense on altaria
he'll most likely will melt to mega froslass anyway
Once they introduce dubwool i bet they remove body press from its movepool
“we have mega gardevoir at home!”
mega gardevoir at home:
mega altaria
Nothing seems to have cotton guard and body press
i dont see why they would its not game breaking like archaludon with it was
Hooray i can use coaching cotton guard body press dubwool again

Or strength sap will o wisp gorsola
evil and menacing dead coral
can i have mienshao please
now that one i fw
Dunno how that one's gonna do in a gambit meta
local sword dog found dead in ditch after encounter with dead coral
true
Zacian status washed
especially if we get eviolite back by then
surely corsola can live with max defense vs kingambit
eviolite g-corsola gonna go so crazy
Tankier than mega aggron
will-o-wisp go crazy
Sneasler shudders in the face of gorsola
even aegislash makes that stupid cat seem like a fraud
sneasler isnt a cat
aegislash is good into a lot of meta mons rn
including but not limited to mega floette
Pretty unfortunate that most Floette teams have Zard y too
And aero teams have both zard y and chompy
i think they did that intentionally for mons floette just doesnt wanna see
unfortunately they forgot my mega delphox in those mega pairings 😝
Psychic go brrr
psychic from max spa modest mega delphox is a guaranteed ohko on mega zard y
and floette doesnt particularly wanna take that hit either
U can hit the heat wave too
Teams i hate to see are ones with mega delphox and tsareena
Show me the calc
teehee
is that specifically targeted at me
Nope
i am conveniently running them both
But they have crazy good synergy and stops the sucker punch and fake out
and zero type overlap
Not that you want to fake it out because it might run encore
Can never be too sure with cts
32+ SpA Delphox-Mega Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Charizard-Mega-Y: 97-115 (63.3 - 75.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Fun fact
They haven’t 🔥🔥🔥
but they have
Are you really gonna argue with the calc?
ive won games that way
32+ SpA Delphox-Mega Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Charizard-Mega-Y on a critical hit: 145-172 (94.7 - 112.4%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
am i gonna trust my wins over a calc? yes.
😭😭😭😭
so explain how ive won

No clue man
If you can find any evidence of winning by that then I’ll believe it
But until then I’m going with the calc
Zard Y has good spdef it isn’t gonna die to a neutral hit
👨🦯
Any helping hand or cm buffs you might be forgetting?
no one on my team has either of those
i have coaching on sneasler but that doesnt effect anything here
Any fake tears?
also no
Then the game bugs for you only every single time ! I’m so glad we can agree on that
What a good finish to the story
idk something weird happened
cuz ive always killed them with psychic
the math is not mathing
but i’ve literally won games that way 😭
What's one mega that is never used but is legal
audino is there
I think a good player can make it work lol
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Ok so I've been playing Pokémon champions very actively for about a week now and I have a genuine question to ask regular VGC players.
How on earth do y'all deal with the CRAZY amount of RNG in this game? Feels like every 2-3 games are decided by a flinch or a crit, it's unreal.
Never seen someone so dense since I quit playing league
hello everyone
Hot damn, this is crazy. Simple answer, we just deal with it
Mega Clefable?
i did not laught but like
just don't play the game during tilted, RNG exist and more prevelant in Lower ladders
the first one applies over every comp game
Yeah, moral of the story: don’t play if you’re about to tilt
this guy didn't see the los angeles regional
TRUEEE
Man i feel like im really close to making mega camerupt TR work rlly well but I can't decide on good teammates
Ik mega camerupt is gonna be paired with farigiraf or hatterene, maybe both, but i don't wanna put incin on the team because of kingambits + milotics.
Theres also the issue of needing a mon thats actually good into rain
I might see if toxicroak can work tbh
Who the hell in champions is using Milo what
So many people are using milotic lmao
Its a really good mon atm
Singles or doubles?
Ohhhhh, doubles
I wouldn't be tryna run singles TR, thats just such a momentum sink.
Yeah no I'm at master ball on doubles and I havent gone against a single milotic. Weird
Good for her though I love Milo
Thats honestly funny, milotic is extremely bulky and punishes anyone giving it a stat drop with competitive, hence why its basically the anti-incin mon.
Also damn toxicroak is a lot faster than I remember
Whats its speed?
85
its not like... unusable. But just a lot higher than I remember
Dayum
Like incin is base 60
I mean its supposed to be a ninja right? So makes sense
Not compared to other ninja pokemon lmao.
Accelgor is considered ninja like (not in champions but im just naming ninja mons)
In general a lot of those pokemon with that theme are a lot faster than base 85 lol
Shedinja, bring it back pls
Shedinja aint no ninja lol
I'll be so fr I always forget Accelgor exists. Like bug is my favorite type, especially gen 5's bugs, but I just do not gaf
Yeah ik but it makes sense for it to be decently quick
Tbh im not a big accelgor fan, I was escavalier all the way, especially trick room shenanigans
I wanna use shedinja
I haven't used escavalier before, but I really like its design. And its characterization in the BW anime
base 20 speed is already a good start for TR
Not to mention an insane attacking stat and basically the best type combo for bug you can get
Hopefully mega golisopod is as good as scizor/mega scizor and escavalier
I hope so too
Just give it tough claws, and its goated as hell
Tough claws close combat hell yeah
Tough claws iron head, tough claws 100BP first impressions or X scissor if you don't wanna get stopped by a farigiraf, you can run it in rain to have stab on its liquidation again + tough claws
I would argue he is mr potential mon if done right
Just don't give it reskinned emergency exit
You mean tactical retreat?
Sure lol
Also idk why i said x scissor, if you're not running impression youre running leech life
Also can someone pls put me outta my misery and help me build for mega camerupt im legit just strugglin
Well it struggles with rain teams right and it's slow af so it needs tr
Yeah ik that, I just really am struggling to find ways to couneract its weaknesses without just adding a crap ton more.
How bout ampharos, gives you a second mega option and is great against camerupt's weaknesses
And is good in tr
Ampharos is... yeah ironically maybe ill try ampharos
I know how it sounds and it may backfire horribly but you could also lowkey try rising voltage shenanigans with alolan raichu and ampharos
Gives you fake out pressure too
I think ampharos is just a tidbit too slow for that unfortunately.
Its also the idea that raichu would have to fake out and eat a hit to let ampharos set up electric terrain.
I have got an idea involving gravity hatterene however
No, i mean with farig you can set up e terrain turn one with alolan raichu, volt switch out into ampharos and set up tr t2
No im not following you rn lol
Well i am
I just don't think all that set up is worth
Farig prevents fake out on alolan raichu so it guarantees e terrain being set up, t2 you can volt switch into ampharos and set up tr or tr and bring in camerupt
Ok but then farigiraf is just a sitting duck?
It can imprison protect
Eh, i still think its too much effort
Nope
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Ok so gravity on hatterene is actually quite funny
Gravity let mega camerupt hit both mega delphox and rotom wash with EP
and it gave me 100% accurate heat waves
scarf viv lmao
thats bo1 for u ig
u right bo1 in a nutshell
Alright so as much as i love camerupt
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Camerupt is not performing the way I'd like.
He fun. But he also got too many weaknesses to common threats.
Dies to bubble gun from frogadier
I like camerupt if you can play around the weaknesses
It's true for most pokemon but especially with camerupt I feel like once you remove the checks its totally over
If basc/rotom is down you win
Turn 1 if you don’t get trickroom up you just lose
basc ends your career
Nvm cuz if you run aqua jet the camerupt is finished anyway
I actually had a very funny tech for rotom specifically with gravity on hatterene
I would be interested in seeing your team comp. I do like camerupt, just struggling to find a good balance to make it work.
Any idea if there was going to be new megas for the format tonight?
The very most we'll get tomorrow is new items (if we do); but no more mons until mid-June (after NAIC)
Why aurorus though?
Others snow setters can't do this lol
and my team prefers going tr as its speed control
so I can spam blizzards after tr is set ideally
you also switch in pretty nicely vs other setters
I've seen my Aurorus tank even a ttar low kick
32+ Atk Adaptability Basculegion Last Respects vs. 1 HP / 18 Def Aurorus in Snow: 166-196 (83.4 - 98.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
also neat calc vs 200 bp last respects
scarf bascs run jolly mostly tho afaik which is where this matters a lot
Honestly the more you show me this the more I wanna fuck with aurorus
But I'm still tryna work on mega camerupt.
Surprisingly bulky, works under trickroom, blizzards. Also an ice type with freeze-dry so it ain't walled by milotic.
This is what I've seen as far as I know from sn1v33.
32+ SpA Charizard Heat Wave vs. 1 HP / 16 SpD Aurorus: 55-66 (27.6 - 33.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
if you switch in on zardy to remove the sun
Are the rest of your EVs in special attack with a quiet nature for TR?
I'm realising aurorus could be maybe a decent partner for camerupt for a slow TR mon to beat out rain.
I'm using modest cuz iirc you still don't underspeed adamant no spe gambit anyway
which is what you prob want if tr is set up
I might do slower anyway because I've seen TR pellis before
And being modest would mean you actually outspeed quiet peli
Very VERY niche but eh. I'm probably not dual speeding on this team.
Unless I end up picking kangaskhan as my secondary mega.
Which I might ngl.
Not sure why people want to run peli in their tr team but I feel it is more possible on tailroom teams that have a rain mode
Some people did it for TR toise
I think those teams are tailroom afaik
Maybe. Even then... being slower actually does yield some benefits such as outslowing -speed nature incins with TR.
Which means you can fire off an earth power or ancient power.
Either way @lavish frost what's ur team?
mega meowstic (male) excalibur leafeon castform simisear furfrou alcremie
they dont wanna change the format ill pretend like they did
Quite an interesting team
If I can figure out mega camerupt TR then that.
If not... kinda wanna use expanding force shenanigans with either mega alakazam or mega garde... maybe even both.
Sounds good 🙂
the main goal of the team is to have leafeon nuke stuff
Of course it is xP
does meowstic get screech in champs does anyone know
I don't know 😅
I'd have to look it up
cuz if it does that makes my job significantly easier
it does
For meowstic I'm thinking about doing fake out, psychic terrain, gravity and maybe protect or expanding force.
why not use quick claw quick draw g-slowbro and have it set up the psychic terrain for meowstic
Because I want to win and not be reliant on a 50% chance.
😝
But my thought process is that gravity can not only help alakazam hit focus blasts
But also give me milotic shenanigans
With hypnosis.
so instead you want to waste a turn on your frail psyspam carry?
More consistent than g-slowbro lmao
So it's not a waste.
Watching Kabuki and AfroSenju play Pokemon champions
okay so it will start at 115 speed if i make it 32 hp 32 atk and 2 spe it will be 117 doubled to 234 in sun with chlorophyll
hm
252+ Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Leafeon: 120-144 (69.7 - 83.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
im a liver
Yeah i think ironically max HP is the best option due to the lack of coverage
max hp means i will always live dire claw
ill check gengar sludge bomb in a sec
Almost forgot, need to resub my Pokémon HOME 😂
chat whats the super effective poison berry called
Legit no clue.
thqnks
252+ SpA Gengar-Mega Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Kebia Berry Leafeon: 145-172 (84.3 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
😀
inb4 a crit 😓
Because whenever we want to play a fun team; we always get crit >_<
No
Its like in between being max speed or bulky modest but almost no one runs max spa gengar
so i can live anyways 😀
+2 252+ Atk Leafeon Solar Blade vs. 12 HP / 0 Def Sneasler: 156-184 (99.3 - 117.1%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
😀
https://pokepast.es/91cb4e6fef0d6e6c
So my team, what we thinking? 😅
252+ Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Leafeon: 120-144 (69.7 - 83.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
thank you nintendo for 130 physical defense
do i swap mega meowstic for mega banette
Looks familiar, only comment I have is I heard lately people have been opting for sylveon over floette, as it’s more convenient to have out with zard for offensive synergy, as well as not needing mega Ofc.
Yeah, I am still working over my teams atm; so hoping to figure it out 🙂
Listen to this: Prankster Mega Banette using Skill Swap on Slowking with Own Tempo ability with Swagger 😏
um
the swagger is for lum berry leafeon
sunny day with mega bannete, detect leafeon, swagger leafeon, eat lum berry, excalibur
also banette has frisk in its base form which is huge in CTS
Yeah, it's just an interesting tech since Mega Banette has 165 atk 😅
what am i gonna do with furfrou
i imagine it has the standard normal type movepool of everything under the sun?
Surely there’s a better option for this
unfortunately not
alcremie is too slow
coaching is only +1 and wont secure the kos i need it to
But like do you NEED all those moves on one mon?
what
Sunny day, swagger
it has prankster im gonna use it
im thinking swagger sunny day shadow claw and deatiny bond
a nasty move set xD
and frisk in its base form for some free info
why thank you i tried
naganohara_vexae has given 1 Gen Rep to djdanny88
🤣
every move on it is for something
😁
and leafeon will have detect instead of protect cuz it gets detect, solar blade, x scissor and synthesis
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2608161382
Careful not to do something in front of Whimsicott 🤣
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I swear that Ceruledge doesn't run Protect at all 😅
Ok so aurorus is kinda goated
true
I'm trying TR with mega camerupt and mega garde. But aurorus + mega garde seems to actually make a rlly good pair into rain.
Incin is a necessary evil to give me the ability to set up TR on zard Y + venu
And sinistcha can heal my bulky mons and maybe give em a bit more longevity with life dew. And it's a secondary TR setter.
I have maybe found my groove.
Bannette does have poltergeist and a serviceable attack stat. Better running that than shadow claw.
I see the plan though. Protect leafeon, set up sunny day with banette, then use swagger from banette onto leafeon so it's +2 and chlorophyll sun boosted.
yep
Also... is x scissor seriously the best coverage it gets? 😭
and im running shadowclaw over poltergeist just in case they dont have an item
That's... not a good reason lol
it gets knock off
Hmmmm... guess it's what do you play into. A swagger boosted x scissor probably kills farig
But knock helps you deal with sinistchas.
But yeah I'd seriously say run poltergeist
Mega banette is most likely doing a support role but if it can output some damage, great. 70BP is pathetic. 110 but the risk of missing or the opp having lost an item just means either slightly unlucky or you keep track of what mons do and don't have an item.
i was also told to just run trailblaze over x scissor
for very funny solar blades
leafeon:
if i were to click howl and click protect on my other pokemon would they both still get the howl attack boost
I believe yes because coaching works like that.
im considering dropping simisear for kantotales
for 2 ways to set sun and also ninetales gets howl which is very interesting for furfrou banette and leafeon
im talking about levels of greed they spoke of in the bible bro
Legit 7 deadly sins levels of greed
swagger lum berry combo for +2 leafeon
howl kanto minetales for +3
do i add a coaching sneasler for +4
like i might as well right?
Stats up - the team
hm?
I don't think coaching sneasler is all that lol
i quite like it
its what im
running on my current team
fake out dire claw cc coaching
I'm not saying it can't work. I just never found myself wanting to use it.
It's use cases were very few and far between
although leafeons base 130 defense doesnt necessarily need the defense boost
but it wouldnt hurt either
No speed control at all?
I think you could maybe benefit from a tr mode perhaps with torkoal over ninetails, but idk each mons funtions so take with a grain of salt
id genuinely swap out furfrou for another normal type that gets icy wind
the only mons i could disguise it as are banette and sylveon
because yes
Fair enough
I think mixed sylveon is semi cope.
Sylveon is mixed?
quick attack
Oh yeah why not protect
and then hypervoice and hyper beam
It has double edge
detect
Yeah the double edge is cope.
Thank God 😭
i swear its supposed to be hyperbeam hypervoice quick attack detect
cuz im mostly likely gonna have to disguise it as banette or sylveon
and if its banette its still weak to dark
cuz like if a leafeon uses hypervoice for big damage surelyyou know instantly thats not a leafeon
ig i could disguise it as ninetales too
sash is taken scarf is taken
what else do i give it?
spell tag?
thats not a bad idea actually
Or you could give ninetails smth else and opt for sash
i think ninetales needs it more
Feel sorry for your opponents xD
i cant wait to click leafeons nuke button
like how scared would you be of a +2 attack +1 speed leafeon in sun
possibly +4 if i greed a bit and risk the confusion
and +3 or +5 if i get a ninetales howl off
I'm testing yet another team too 😅
https://pokepast.es/86224a7d829f9963
Been building so many up xD
and i have basc and sylveon on cleanup duty if leafeon misses any kos
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2608269582-dpwudva2dxebg1ot4b6luxhp3xn5stspw
It certainly does very well for a team 🙂
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i feel like set up samurott would like protect
Yeah, it's just figuring out what moves I wish to keep xD
May get rid of Sucker Punch for now 😅
This game lucky I can’t use loaded dice
this game is lucky i cant use mega mawile
if I could use mawile or Salamence next season 👀
season 2 is the same as season 1
I suspect they'll bring in another 12 - 14 Megas in M-B
we arent getting anything new until maybe season 3
so I have to sit through all these fairy and fire types
yes
for another season
M-B starts 13th June I believe: right after NAIC
yes
I might have to join them since I can’t beat them
i can beat them so i dont have to join them
I may have some Fairy types on my newest team, but no fire types xP
My team has to have weather on it or I just can’t play
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@sudden remnant I feel this one's pain 😅
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i have 4 mons that could protect i wanted banette to be different
Fire but what is the goal with the zoroark
speed control
https://pokepast.es/047fa43f8a47e368 decided to go a little rogue here
also mind games
cuz swagger destiny bond mega banette isnt enough spirit damage
what I would say tho is don’t ever have ninetales at the end if you have zoroark before it
No heat and your already screwed on turn 1
im most likely gonna disguise zoroark as sylveon
its not scarf you CANT ignore it
And it bit me in the ass
its the elephant in the room and must be addressed
I’m dumb but anyone else would notice a blastoise that spams shadow ball you using it for support is good
We ARE NOT bringing back Hisuian Samurott into VGC or singles. We had enough of him and Great Tusk in Gen 9.
it also has a spell tag so those shadow balls are gonna smack
The hyper voice is genius
hyper voice for big stab and also to disguise as sylveon
maybe theyll think its cute charm sylveon 😝
the team is already weird enough where that would be believable surely?
I have to pick between basc and sneasler what are we thinking guys
fih
someone told me swap shadow claw for poltergeist i decided not to cuz i cant afford to miss
and besides banette is here to support anyways
supportive mega cuz i can
and who needs a mega anyways when i have such raw power in the rest of the team😝
Brainstorming a new team cause i wanted to use sylveon and had an idea to use a “two-mode” team to be able to use M-Blastoise. This might be actual ass and idk what ev spreads I need for sylveon and venu
exactly why i have shadow claw
It’s like using Draco instead of dragon pulse
nah actually not as bad because Draco -2
i use dragon pulse cuz i like to minimize my chances to miss
Yea I always miss drac
Let’s goo
youd probably win though cuz my playstyle is weird
As long as it’s not stall you have a chance
its not
i click whatever button my instinct tells me to click
and sometimes i end up clicking nothing
and it just used whatever move is in the first slot
I shit on stall teams
and I make mistakes alot
Like whenever I see a farig or tsareena I go priority
can’t help it
i love using tsareena
unfortunately i could not fit it on this team
At least you didn't have an opponent who kept trying to use Dual Wingbeat Gale Wings while you have Armor Tail up 😅
lmao
Hilarious
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Not joking either xD
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i had an opponent try double fake out and i had tsareena mega delphox as my lead
they lead infernape incin
and pretty much lost on the spot
I ran into an incineroar with protect and it just lost me the game immediately
oof
Yeah, you'll see Incin like that if in a Shadow Tag Mega Gengar team >_<
But sometimes escapes that team pool
Mega gengar is a fraud
Everyone is running ghost types
No guard and unseen fist are in the game
Stall is bad
tbf, I know a lead that can deal with it anyways xP
i usuall lead tsareena mega delphox into anything gengar
As long as you bring in double threatening leads into Mega Gengar, your opponent can only fake out one of them 😅
delphox umbreon
😝
i cant wait to see fairy feather pixilate hyper beam absolutely obliterate something
3 win streak with this team ✌️
Didn’t even have to show gallade
i was considering side fake out steadfast gallade
What about Justified
Just glad my new team is working the way I want it 🙂
Just need to update my sub on Pokémon HOME and I can transfer my mons in 😅
Have all the mons on my team in Shiny form xD
exactly
one vacuum wave from riolu
I just made the most hilarious comeback win in Ultra ball rank
Vanquishes it
I wanna see
or atleast tell how it went
i have 2 of my teams shinies
basc and ninetales
I literally had low health and all 🤣
i got it from my buddy
Rotom 🥺
for a perfect iv calyrex for calyrex ice
Already know this is about to be heat
Lucky you then 🙂
That's my goat it's underrated tbh
I luckily have my shiny Alolan Ninetales in a Beast Ball xP
Rotom heat + garchomp is what I do
I used shiny Kantonian Ninetales during Gen8 competitive; was a great partner alongside my GMax Charizard 🤣
😁
where should i hunt banette at chat
Just trade for it
um from who
ivs and stuff don’t matter in champions
It was max speed Ninetales with Eject Pack + Overheat, then switched into a Lightning Rod Raichu 🤣
From pokemon violet
yeah but who tf has a shiny banette
@neat dust Your EVs & Nature will transfer over; but all IVs are set to 31
As long as the pokemon is in the regional dex you can get it from anywhere
I have two Shalphas from Z-A 😅
🥺
Go to a website or something
I'll check to see if I still have it; could be willing to trade ya one xP
Yep, still got two of them xP
Flip turn one shot this guys charizard y and he just quit
lmao
Though if you can only do it through HOME; I'll have to get that sub (in the morning xD)
i have sv and za
Want me to trade ya one?
not rn i dont have my switch with me but i would very much appreciate one
ill dm you cuz we cant trade here
All good; it's no rush, though likely getting sleep soon as is xD
Midnight this end nearly xP
Well I am British, so yeah xD






