competitive_discussion

[rustic mountain]

[zenith hill]

thank you!!

[gentle crag]

smile34 has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco.

[rustic mountain]

no championship points for this one unfortunately, u do get bragging rights tho and depending on ur region it was a qualifier

[zenith hill]

I think only korea, japan and taiwan

[rustic mountain]

yea i think thats correct

[spiral rock]

im not sure theres regionals in Canada I would love to join

[rustic mountain]

canada has regionals

toronto is the more popular one but theyve done vancouver and prolly 1 or 2 others im forgetting or before my time

[spiral rock]

ooo ok imma do research on that cuz im in toronto

should've done the GC then but ill search tourneys

[rustic mountain]

theyll b more gcs

[spiral rock]

o they're still on S/V imma wait for when champions is the format

basically I hate paradoxes and joined too late to know wtf is happening there

[clever root]

Ye dunno if it will work, might drop gambit for smth else

[timber falcon]

ive got 6 pokemon i wanna try work with would appreciate thoughts on potential weaknesses

https://pokepast.es/b5d318a353e5d285

[clever root]

Whats altaria for

[timber falcon]

It’s what I built the team around

Anti-weather

[cyan smelt]

i was just watching a game and i saw a9 with farig so ig i could still run it

[timber falcon]

Ok so I’ve found an altaria team quite similar to mine

Already covered my James Baek

Oh well

[clever root]

Doesnt mega froslass still beat ur team

[timber falcon]

scizzor

rotom and incin

im hoping i can figure it out fron there

altaria isnt always gonna be helpful tho

[cyan smelt]

think i'm gonna replace gliscor with a9

[clever root]

Unsure if gambit is even worth it on this team, i think i gotta add tauros paldea and a tailwinder too

[cyan smelt]

Idk though it was working decently well until I changed things and now I'm losing a ton, I can't tell if gliscor or a9 is the weak link

Leaning towards gliscor being the weak link

[timber falcon]

id agree

[cyan smelt]

I don't have to run a9 in tr either but it's good to have the tr mode

[shadow wind]

Time to explode the 80 GXE I worked so hard for 🔥🔥🔥

[cyan smelt]

R u jumping on the ariados hype train

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/7b8941a957ae6d3b never let me teambuild again

[cyan smelt]

Lmao what am I looking at

[clever root]

I guess actually i could use talonflame as my tailwinder next to meganium

[shadow wind]

Nah I’m lazy and don’t feel like changing teams

Also I’m still hoping to keep my GXE above 80

I just know it’ll be hard

[cyan smelt]

Can they hurry up and add ferrothorn, I'm tired of these archaludons, basculegions, rotoms and milotics

[timber falcon]

a dumpster fire

ill stick to normal sets for now

[shadow wind]

I’ve never actually played on an account after hitting 80 GXE

Cause I’m a coward

[timber falcon]

i would do the same

[shadow wind]

But now I have to because it’s a ladder tour account

Which is honestly fine by me

I have the screenshot so whatever

I proved the bad GXE allegations wrong

[cyan smelt]

I think i might ladder on a fresh alt

[shadow wind]

Honestly it’s pretty fun to

[cyan smelt]

Random lower ladder bs is funny

[shadow wind]

But so is high ladder sweatiness

[cyan smelt]

Yeah but I feel like you trigger people with your teams and get funnier comments

[shadow wind]

I’ve gotten some pretty funny dms while on high ladder

Cause while beating people who are new is fun beating people who think they’re goated is even better

Especially when using Groudon

[cyan smelt]

Idk why people get an ego over this game

[shadow wind]

Eh, I can understand it

[timber falcon]

i had a massive one at the start

[shadow wind]

I like being good at stuff

[timber falcon]

i refused to use any legendaries because i thought i was that good

safe to say, legendaries are pretty neat in vgc

[cyan smelt]

Zama is fun, I need to learn to not get attached to certain pokemon, it's a bad habit

[shadow wind]

But sometimes getting attached makes the game infinitely more fun

Like me and Groudon, I don’t think I would’ve survived sv if I didn’t only use him

[cyan smelt]

Zama chien pao was awesome

[shadow wind]

Groudon is awesome ❤️

Love that guy more than anything

[timber falcon]

groudon is the best out of the hoenn trio

[shadow wind]

Groudon is the best.

Full stop you didn’t need to add the other stuff

[cyan smelt]

Ok but I'm excited to try m-ray

[timber falcon]

Would be if swampert didn’t exist in the same region

[shadow wind]

Swampert is just worse gastrodon

[cyan smelt]

180 attack e-speeds hell yeah

[shadow wind]

Yeah I said it

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-spiderverse-dragon-ball-gif-16710249899645766833

[shadow wind]

Tera normal banded Dnite still hits harder 😭😭😭

Gg!

[timber falcon]

Atp I’m just patiently waiting for mega swampert

[cyan smelt]

Where is mega mawile and mega metagross

[shadow wind]

I’m kinda happy how the format is right now

Zard Y text bubble 😭😭

[cyan smelt]

Zard y, chomp and aero is so oppressive

[shadow wind]

Agreed !

[cyan smelt]

So is sableye, basc, sinistcha and arch

So damn bulky

At least i learnt that curse and stealth rocks don't work so well because there's not much switching

[shadow wind]

Nah those guys aren’t oppressive

Just a special attacker check

I don’t think I’ve ever lost to that team, granted my team has a good MU into it

[timber falcon]

That team has caused me so much suffering

[cyan smelt]

When I beat it I just hit it really hard and that seemed to work

[shadow wind]

That is how you beat it yes

Kommo is very good into it

[molten oasis]

[cyan smelt]

I don't think i can afford to run coaching sneasler or sd gambit

[molten oasis]

If zard kept tailwind it would be arguably worse

I’m glad it lost it

[cyan smelt]

Hate zard sm

[molten oasis]

Hate on it now

[shadow wind]

Why is top 500 almost 1700 😭😭😭

[molten oasis]

Just wait for Mence and Metagross

[molten oasis]

I’m at 1596 rn and was like “surely I’m close to top 500”, I was wrong lol

[shadow wind]

Yeah I’m at 1591

[molten oasis]

New format so more people wanna play

I will say if megas weren’t around this format would be absolutely awful to play in lol

The megas make it tolerable

[timber falcon]

When does a new reg even release

[molten oasis]

June

I’m expecting the other half of the megas+new mons like HOPEFULLY AMOONGUSS

and goggles, if we don’t get goggles it’s over

[timber falcon]

I just want choice specs back

[molten oasis]

Honestly, I don’t

No band lorb or specs has been refreshing

I do wish we kept things like av and cloak

[timber falcon]

AV to make arch even more annoying

I like that there’s no cloak, made FO feel safer

[clever root]

Is clef or maushold better for meganium/glimmora support

[molten oasis]

It also makes fake out hard to deal with

Clams also gone so intimidate is easier to get off

Though I really haven’t seen that much incin

The nerfs to its movepool and this format lacking items affected it more than I expected

That and no Tera means it has to pick what it dies to

[timber falcon]

I feel like the stronger the mons

Incin becomes more relevant

Though idk how knock off is gonna effect its performance

[molten oasis]

Knock off was pretty big but it’s still a big nerf

[molten oasis]

True

Be it the mons we have now are pretty powerful

[timber falcon]

But when they bring in things like flutter and the ruins

[cyan smelt]

Ok I think time to ladder on an alt

[timber falcon]

Garchomp will be working at a local corner store hopefully

[cyan smelt]

Goodbye aerodactyl when flutter is in town

I hope they bring back booster energy

[timber falcon]

And the 5 turn games with specs miraidon

On second thought not everything needs to return

[cyan smelt]

at least miraidon will be managable without tera

until they bring tera back

[cyan smelt]

imprison farig is so clutch

need some way of dealing with the pepper though

[shadow wind]

@waxen dock do we have a problem?

[waxen dock]

is it some anti rain tech

[shadow wind]

It’s anti basc tech

[waxen dock]

oh

[shadow wind]

Like seriously dude?

[cyan smelt]

ok I've lost 3 times with this to low ladder cheese

[shadow wind]

Just unnecessary

[real prairie]

What do you mean Ariados won GC....

what is this game

[timber falcon]

i dont enderstand what happened here

[cyan smelt]

i'm going well with this team so far, 9 wins and only 3 losses

lost to the pepper and some weird rising voltage mega ampharos thing

[zenith hill]

Could have hard match ups against some floette team is what I think

[timber falcon]

yep a few testing battles and even with scizzor floette still hurts bad

double dragon overall doesnt seem to be working great for me

[zenith hill]

yea those floette teams usually pair with sinistcha and incin which makes scizzor so hard to knock out floette imo

[cyan smelt]

the pepper is actually kinda annoying

[zenith hill]

scovillian?

[cyan smelt]

yes

[zenith hill]

yea.. they are getting popular on the ladder too!

[cyan smelt]

entrainment fissure is so funny

[real prairie]

this team is screaming for a TR setter

I faced a beat up mega Absol team Y'day, that was jarring

[shadow wind]

I just para’d 3 times in a row

Thought they lowered the odds 😭

[cyan smelt]

I think my new team is decent, only lost to some random cheese

Have not needed ninetales so far really

I think OTOT was right, TR mode is good for this, and imprison protect and hyper voice is clutch

[shadow wind]

Lowkey tanked my GXE but I’m still very happy with 76

And so far I’m in first

And the only one on the leaderboard

But that doesn’t matter

[cyan smelt]

I finally understand why showdown says that thing about "this battle is required to be public"

[shadow wind]

Yup

[cyan smelt]

Ladder tournament seems like a fun thing

[shadow wind]

I like em

Gives you a reason to push yourself on the ladder

Also the tournament afterwards is probably pretty good competition

[cyan smelt]

I have a good 5 now I think, it's just the 6th that I'm not sure about

[real prairie]

@mighty stump a happy boy seeing Wolfe hit 6th with Snorlax lol

[cyan smelt]

Wolfe loves his perish trap

If wolfe used entrainment fissure does that mean we can stop hating on it now

[timber falcon]

Is this on the public champions ladder?

Or a private one for the tournament

[shadow wind]

Public

[timber falcon]

.

You really are some ladder demon

Well done

[shadow wind]

Thanks

I do my best

Except I had a slump where I was yo-yoing in the 1500s

Lowkey wasn’t locked in even a little bit

[cyan smelt]

Well u gotta lock in

[shadow wind]

I did eventually

And maybe I shouldn’t have been queuing 3 games at once

[real prairie]

I get on with a team for about a week before the meta shifts and i'm playing catch up.

Need to team build something that wins for me instead of just fighting whatever the meta is.

back to the drawing board

[shadow wind]

Queuing multiple games on mobile is a really bad habit I need to break

[cyan smelt]

Jack use sableye arch

[real prairie]

tried it, too easy to counter now

its almost a week old

I kind of had my own version of it with my team, using Whims instead of Sableye

I still think there is a way to make fake tears + spread move work, I just haven't figured out which spread move yet

[cyan smelt]

How is it too easy to counter when it just came out

[real prairie]

its been out a week, people prepped for it expecting to see it lots in GC and now its not ideal

my team took a lot of the aspects of it and ran with it too

[cyan smelt]

U could do fake tears + hyper voice

[real prairie]

Light screen and beat up to keep it around. still didn't do great.

[real prairie]

Yeah considered that, maybe mega Gardy as it has some bulk

[cyan smelt]

Mega gard is good

[real prairie]

maybe mega gardy and scarfchomp

run telepathy EQs

[cyan smelt]

Just watch out for scizor

[cerulean nacelle]

This is a fun idea but requires a fair bit of set up considering that you can't mega the lucario right away and can't protect it either with your lucario + whims pair.

[cyan smelt]

I watched a game with a white herb scizor

[real prairie]

bring Rotom heat i guess for Scizor

[real prairie]

yeah lucario only really came to matches against the sableye + Arch teams

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/c20bb9963b9545d6 thoughts?

[cyan smelt]

Hyper voice is better on gard

[real prairie]

hypervoice over dazzling on Gard.

also drain punch on Kang

[cyan smelt]

Low kick has been awesome for me with kang, picked up some nice kos

She's my gambit and ttar destroyer

[real prairie]

I prefer drain put fair

also could consider sacred sword on Aeg

[cyan smelt]

Parental bond low kick, first hit uses chople, second kos

[real prairie]

also marvel scale Milotic not comp?

[timber falcon]

Didn’t realise gardevoir had pixelate

Didn’t check all abilities it’s mainly moveset and item

[cyan smelt]

Milotic is super annoying esp when it's next to mega scovillain

[real prairie]

even more so when its the coil hypnosis set

[cyan smelt]

So much cheese around and it's usually water types, mega stoise is another

I had to add farig purely because of mega stoise

[real prairie]

https://pokepast.es/afdf76828f844ade

Maybe something like this

[chrome knot]

floette calling my name again this is BAD

balance pilled

[real prairie]

I keep going back to Floette too but the reality is im just not winning as much with her

[chrome knot]

i can’t stop winning with her tbh

[real prairie]

proof in the pudding in that I have twice as many games with Floette as Tsarenna but already got gold medal with Tsa lol

[real prairie]

Then why drop?

[chrome knot]

in the experimental phase

[real prairie]

fair

[chrome knot]

longing for a new scream tail

[real prairie]

bulky encore disabler?

[chrome knot]

yeahh

thats faster than most the format

[real prairie]

Mega chime in TR? lol

[chrome knot]

no

problem is there won’t be another scream tail until scream tail

[real prairie]

yeah, A9 in AV maybe a decent backup in a froslass team but meh

I wanted to try swagger + psych up Mega banette but its too squishy and weak to half the format

[forest arrow]

https://x.com/fedecampovgc/status/2051587948617904494?s=46&t=gEcvvuDLBwqjwOC0yfoRYg

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I won the first Global Challenge in Pokemon Champions, 1st place out of 411k players using ARIADOS.

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X · May 5, 2026, 9:00 AM

[vernal shadow]

Do we know if we're getting a new format after the season ends next week ? I keep steam rolling ultraball and then start losing bc I try and utilise my dragonite half of my team which just doesn't work and needs replacing. That and getting hit with 3 double flinches back to back, locking me down for till my team can't take anymore 😑

[mighty stump]

I still hate this entrainment stuff cuz i feel it just betrays the spirit of what i usually preach but bo1 has to use what bo1 does ig

[mighty stump]

We’re about to hit a new level of Karen’s quote from a buncha scrubs

[forest arrow]

I believe it will be the same format until June, just a new season, so I’m guessing new battle pass

[vernal shadow]

Awesome 👍
Having a blast with mega being back. Stole hospitality just now before mega evolution. Good stuff 👌

[cyan smelt]

farig been putting in work for me

with imprison protect and next to kang in tr is scary

i just need to optimise my team because i got gambit and kang in tr

[vernal shadow]

I hate that thing so much 😂
Do people generally run it with sash ? Fought one earlier that I could've taken out before it caused problems but didn't bc I figured it was dashed (it wasn't)

[cyan smelt]

i have it with colbur berry

because people love to use knock off or kowtow on it

[vernal shadow]

Ah ok I think that's what it had. Good to know
Also what moves are usually run on aerodactyle ? I've grabbed one bc I struggle with sneasler and need dual wing beat.

Never used this bird before

[cyan smelt]

tailwind, dual wingbeat, rock slide and one of protect or wide guard

[vernal shadow]

EVs ?

[cyan smelt]

max attack max speed, it's a min max pokemon

[vernal shadow]

Thank you very much 👍

[cyan smelt]

i feel like i rarely bring skeledirge, i'm winning with mega kang and gambit mostly

[vernal shadow]

I was right about earlier. Getting hit with every rock slide and flinching 3 times on both mons in a row was disgustingly unlucky. I somehow still won anyways but damn

[cyan smelt]

that's why people run the mon

well it's also really fast too

[vernal shadow]

It was a chomp that hit me. Things evil. It came down to a speed tie on gardevoir that I won

I'm assuming jolly on aero?

[cyan smelt]

yeah jolly

wait are you running mega or base

[vernal shadow]

Base

[cyan smelt]

give it sash

run protect on it

[vernal shadow]

My two megas rn are dnight BC I'm using my one from bw battle tower and gardevoir bc it's my ribbon master.
Currently have sash on whimsi which has been carrying pretty hard

[cyan smelt]

well if aero is your tailwinder replace whims

[vernal shadow]

I mainly need a counter to sneasler so I'm trying a few out. My team really struggles into it

[cyan smelt]

aero is your guy

[vernal shadow]

Could aero be run bulky ? It's defences aren't awful

[cyan smelt]

not really much point

it's there to set tailwind, maybe pick up a ko or two and dip

[vernal shadow]

It out speeds sneasler naturally ? Interesting

I may swap it in for peliper

[cyan smelt]

it's hard to give advice without knowing your team

[vernal shadow]

That's fair. My team is pretty poorly setup. Avoiding meta stuff and just having fun with it.

Heres what I've currently got. I've been toggling between running incin but I don't like it much. Ik arcanine isn't considered as good but it's been pretty nice so far with close combat and espeed

[cyan smelt]

don't run whims and pelipper together

you should add arch or basc if you're going rain

[vernal shadow]

I didn't want to but I was at the time struggling against sun so I wanted a rain setter. Plus it worked with hurricane on mega dragonite. Wide guard also helps against milotic with dnight

But it's on my chopping block.

Funnily enough it was a test till I got an aerodactyle but I never encountered a sneasler since adding it.

Rotom doesn't feel all that impactful but that's probably bc it misses most of its moves most of the time but I like having it as a nice pivot to add more intimidates or safe swap to something with volt switch

[cyan smelt]

rotom is really nice into sun

unless they have venu

[vernal shadow]

It's alright as a safe switch into chomp too since they like to equake a lot

[real prairie]

don't agree with this

[cyan smelt]

i just feel like there's a lot of overlap between whims and peli

[vernal shadow]

Peli is a lot bulkier and has different coverage + wide guard🤷‍♂️

[real prairie]

not really, other than TW setters

and you dont need to run TW Peli

[vernal shadow]

I've swapped peli for aero with yache berry for now to try

I can't move the sash from whimsi. It's so clutch

And feels a waste on aero if I only bring it into sneasler

[forest arrow]

People are EVing Sneasler to live a dual wingbeat from aero

Just keep that in mind

[real prairie]

I run bulky whims

[vernal shadow]

What other options are there ?

[real prairie]

as it has prankster it really doesn't need to be fast

[vernal shadow]

That was pretty good before but other prankster Pokémon can disable it before you can use it

With leftovers I had it

[vernal shadow]

This I ment in response to the EVs for sneasler living dual wingbeat

[real prairie]

Really niche it gets locked atm

[timber falcon]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2602176472 altaria might just be the mon i was looking for

[vernal shadow]

I had a lot of that in sv so I just wanted to avoid it here.
Sneasler is such a pain

I think I should probably use regular dnite. Only made it mega bc it's shiny

[real prairie]

at least 18HP 20 DEF

[vernal shadow]

So what else hard counters sneasler ?

[real prairie]

I was using Zen headbutt scarf Tsarenna lol

it also gets triple axel so it threatened both Sneasler and Aero

[vernal shadow]

Ooo. That sounds fun

What sorta spread and items ?

[timber falcon]

Aegislash hard counters if it’s mons in general ur talking abt

[vernal shadow]

Just sneasler. The only thing I super struggle with

[forest arrow]

Now that’s a hard counter

Aegi is good

[timber falcon]

Sneasler can’t even hit Aegislash normally

[vernal shadow]

Mega aggron 😂
The wall, the wall XD

I have been wanting a ghost type tbf

[forest arrow]

Trying sacred sword atm for gambit

[vernal shadow]

My god was using mega aggron fun. Watching so many bounce off was just the best

[timber falcon]

Can the so called wall survive chimchar ember tho

[vernal shadow]

The real question is can chimchar survive being sat on by the wall ?

Why can't I just say I don't want any of the Pokémon while recruiting ? Almost makes me want to put the effort in to transfer more mons

What about water tauros ?

[real prairie]

I was running it with light screen too, was evil lol

[forest arrow]

It’s seen some play

I forgot the team

[vernal shadow]

So funny

Yache berry or leftovers on tsareena?

[real prairie]

I was running scarf

[cerulean nacelle]

I think mega lucario can have its niches. I just also think beat up on whims is a bit wasted. When terrakion is back maybe itll have some niche use. But having to wait to mega is a big momentum sink.

[real prairie]

https://www.ign.com/articles/the-30-best-pokemon-of-all-time?utm_source=bluesky,threads,twitter

[cyan smelt]

Is incineroar no 1

[real prairie]

not even in the list

[spiral ridge]

https://x.com/dietranch/status/2051467449015406823?s=46

joy 🌙 (@dietranch)

i dont like him so i made him Ugly

X · May 5, 2026, 1:02 AM

@chrome knot hired this fish to stare at you

[chrome knot]

no man why he so ugly

[spiral ridge]

He got fat after relying on scarf for speed so long

[chrome knot]

eugh

[spiral ridge]

:3

[cerulean nacelle]

Bro has what, 110 HP? He beefy.

[spiral ridge]

He a bitch

[cerulean nacelle]

He is the one who respects last

[cerulean nacelle]

I prolly need to utilise the fat fish more

[timber falcon]

I often find myself not using meta mons like basc

Not because I don’t think their good, but I hate playing against them so much that I just never use em

[cerulean nacelle]

This is me but specifically with mega floette or mega zard Y.

I personally just find those 2 boring

So boring I even made a sun team with mega houndoom just to not use zard Y lol

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/96fc200a4539c843 fixed up evs would appreciate any thoughts into potential weaknesses

[timber falcon]

exactly it just feels like a waste playing em sometimes

[real prairie]

This took far longer than i wanted it to lol

and in the end i just pasted Floette in 🤣

[pliant kelp]

I kept going with my team from yesterdays post on here! Currently on a 13-win streak and ranked 2,160, feeling soooo high off this 😄

[keen quiver]

i REALLY want to make a team with Cloud nine altaria holding a mega stone

[heavy quail]

I want to make a critical hit team but the sniper Pokemon are so ass and absol is too frail to abuse super luck

Best I got is TR Ariados 😭

[keen quiver]

Lord.

[real prairie]

Ignore sniper and use dragon cheer then

[keen quiver]

doesnt that only work to dragon type allies?

[real prairie]

+2 crit boost to dragon types, +1 to other types

[keen quiver]

ah

[waxen dock]

https://pokepast.es/75575fb800e3f5cb if you want to use ariados use this

it won the gc

[real prairie]

Run it on scarfchomp in a rain team with Draco meteor archaludon

[pliant kelp]

currently on a crazy 15 win streak 😮

[heavy quail]

Low power level calls for ass picks

[heavy quail]

dragon cheer is okay but i really couldn’t find any dragons with better crit sets then regular sets

[heavy quail]

Just looking to make a critical hit team, not Ariados specifically. Just happened to be one of two mons in the format with sniper

[torn parrot]

Ariados slapping pretty hard right now I like him

[torn parrot]

Not this ariados lol

Just use meowscarda king

[heavy quail]

Bro I was hyped af when a starter’s signature move was always crit lol. I had my fun with meowscarada in SV but I don’t find it that good aside from Krookodile anger point and maybe into basculegion

[heavy quail]

Dragon cheer is probably the way to go with a scope lens on a pseudo

I need to lab the perfect candidate

[real prairie]

Arch has the bulk for it

[heavy quail]

I feel like I’d have to worry about setting rain and dragon cheer for him

[real prairie]

Why do you need the rain when everything is a crit?

[heavy quail]

Electro shot is too good

[real prairie]

But not completely needed

[heavy quail]

Plus crits would stack with the sp Atk boosts and ignore the opponents defense boosts + screens

[real prairie]

True

Feels easy though, scarf dragon cheer then switch to pelli

[heavy quail]

Thanks for bringing up dragon cheer though, I completely forgot about that move since it was added late SV. Good shout

[real prairie]

Does dragon cheer go through protect?

[heavy quail]

I believe so

[real prairie]

Yeah so protect and cheer, switch and electroshot

[heavy quail]

Shit if I’m running electro shot I may just full invest EVs into bulk lol

If i run leftovers, i have a 50% chance to crit on all moves after dragon cheer. If I hold scope lens though, it’s 100%…

[real prairie]

Scope lens and have the 4th Mon be a healing redirector

Like clefable or sini

If the dragon cheer is scarf chomp you can run other meta mons as 5+6

[real prairie]

Do share please

[real prairie]

I meant the team haha but well done!!

[pliant kelp]

Oh whoops one sec

[real prairie]

Character looking like Ali G

[pliant kelp]

Restecpa

[real prairie]

Swap out the cap for the red beanie lol

[pliant kelp]

Team id: BUVV0G7VDF

[real prairie]

Got a pic? Not on my switch atm

[pliant kelp]

Currently ranked 1,754 with:

[real prairie]

Thanks

[torn parrot]

Ariados actually pretty good

But guy was made to be a support

[lavish frost]

@torn parrot yo maya

I've been on this channel for yrs but never realized you were also here LOL

[cerulean nacelle]

Very nice team. Moon blast on sylveon is fun for not being worried about wide guard or having to commit to hyper beam.

[pliant kelp]

I specifically use it for a few different reasons other than what you mentioned. Under tailwind my sylveon can outspeed a garchomp and one hit it with moon blast

[cerulean nacelle]

That makes sense. I like it. Pretty fun.

[pliant kelp]

Also every kommo i see expects hypervoice, which its immune to with its ability soundproof. Its surprisingly a common pokemon in the upper brackets. Most dont expect a random moon blast and they go ahead and boost themselves despite being a fairy

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah I played kommo-o for a while but I realised it just couldn't really do enough. It wasn't amazing into really anything.

Kudos to people making it work but I always found I didn't wanna bring it to any match ups.

[torn parrot]

Oh yeah lol
I guess we just never crossed paths

[winter fox]

Funny how I replaced Giraffe with Galar Slowpoke on my Trick Room Teams and I'm actually making progress

[molten oasis]

Almost like Fari’s a better mon

[torn parrot]

Ariados my goat

[cyan smelt]

U were using ariados before it was cool

[torn parrot]

I was…then he became cool

Yet I still I will still use him

Because I get to use him with my shiny mega gardevoir

When I bring it to champions

Iv always wanted to play with a shiny mega gardevoir

But I just wanted to do it with style that’s all

[cerulean nacelle]

Fighting with shinies is cool, don't listen to what anyone else says dude

[forest arrow]

Nice climb with ariados, absolutely nutty

[cerulean nacelle]

I do find it fun how the options are so limited that ariados has risen as a genuine support helper.

I also like how people are realising just how good sableye is now.

Ran into a very fun set on rain which had rain dance, light screen, quash and encore

Light screen paired with bulky arch seems to be very good.

[dense latch]

first ribombee now ariados lol

[shadow wind]

W maya

Something about bugs

Also a challenger has finally approached

Erik have you ever done a ladder tour?

[neat moth]

Hey does anyone know if obtaining master rank in champions will award a ribbon like previous games?

Thanks in advance 🫡

[shadow wind]

I’m pretty sure it’s actually a unique ribbon?

I know there’s definitely a ribbon for winning a game in master ball

[shadow wind]

Hey wait I’m 26th and 159th on the ladder

Did the ladder fall off??

[dense latch]

a few

dont ask how they went for me

[shadow wind]

I’m assuming you seeded first and won the whole thing

Sounds like the Erik I know

[dense latch]

i quit after a day

so pretty close to winning the whole thing

[foggy lodge]

i hate Blastoise so fucking much it literally only works in bo1 cts

Fucking fake out mega blastoise with trick room gengar and aura sphere to ohko tyranitar

[shadow wind]

Does aura sphere even OHKO

32+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Aura Sphere vs. 12 HP / 0 SpD Mega Tyranitar in Sand: 180-212 (96.2 - 113.3%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

I had way too much faith in him

[spark siren]

Is this a good doubles moveset for Weavile?

[shadow wind]

Lose 1 win 2

• 1 elo 🔥🔥

1 elo at a time

[dense latch]

i played two bo3 sets in reg i yesterday and got a whopping seven elo from each of them

[shadow wind]

🔥

One step at a time type of laddering

Nah and it’s bo3 so it takes ages

[dense latch]

you take a very tiny step every time you win and you get pushed off the staircase for one loss

[shadow wind]

Literally

I remember when I was going for rank 1 and I got pushed so hard off the staircase

[foggy lodge]

1970 elo🔥🔥

[shadow wind]

W

With the fish?

[foggy lodge]

Yes

But atleast

Is cool scarf basculegion

Scarf basc is cool

[shadow wind]

Ehhhh

That’s the cope talking I think

[foggy lodge]

🥺

[molten oasis]

Jesus

You’re cracked

[mighty stump]

on cart?

I went through hysteria ystdy and ended up back in 2000s - 2200s from 2400s

[shadow wind]

Bro blacked out and played champions 😭😭

Nah honestly it happens

[timber falcon]

Just lost to a guy who hit 4 crucial double protects under tr

I’m in shambles

[zenith hill]

swim shady lol🤣

[pliant kelp]

Garchomps nickname is my favorite

[pliant kelp]

Its just fun to say outloud

[zenith hill]

whos the real shady please stand up

[zenith hill]

the ratings for champions is getting crazy these past few days man

[pliant kelp]

Everyone pushing

[zenith hill]

I'm like 2200 right now and still master ball 2???

[pliant kelp]

I think i can make cbampion rank

Mb1 is 1k - 300 rating

[next dust]

This just happened to me. 0.137% chance for four protects

Here I am thinking encore into protect in tr would make the match easier for me

[zenith hill]

ohh I'm not even top 1000 yet

ok...

[zenith hill]

2400 gotta be champions already

[dry nexus]

thoughts about this guy?

[timber falcon]

2 weather moves?

[foggy lodge]

yeah on cart im avoiding showdown LOL

I wish i could hit 1970 on showdown

[mighty stump]

I’ve been maintaining Champion rank regularly while testing things

Hoping to finish first season with it but yk, adult life

[foggy lodge]

but 1970 is fine considering i play like 3 matches per day

Only yesterday i made a real ladder session and got like 120 elo

[shadow wind]

Don’t worry I’ll keep the showdown end up

[dry nexus]

planning to pair it with blastoise and crabominable

while also having politoed sit on the back side if I go blastoise

[molten oasis]

https://x.com/psychopathictop/status/2051398809343902004?s=46

William (@PsychopathicTop)

Cant end on loss

X · May 4, 2026, 8:29 PM

Man speaking facts

[keen quiver]

brother.
why tf does whimsicott have endeavor -._-.

[rustic mountain]

https://i.imgflip.com/ar0y0w.jpg

[keen quiver]

wait i just realized

upper hand is + 3 priority and not +4

[cyan smelt]

I feel like imprison farig with gambit and kang is the sauce, just need to figure out what else to make it awesome

[zenith hill]

that's so awesome. do you stream? I'd love to watch you play sometimes

[timber falcon]

Some decent special attack maybe?

You’ve got 2 mons who hate being hit by CC and one that takes neutral too

[inland loom]

Is there a reason basculegion, sneasler, and other current champions meta mons didn’t take off too much in sv? Is it because of better mons?

[dense latch]

they were really really good in reg h

just cant compete when the power level's higher

[inland loom]

Ok. Just seeing if I should shalpha/jumbo/teensy mark hunt for them.

For once eventually better mons get added

[shadow wind]

I am not a 77 GXE player 😭😭

Gg!

[shadow wind]

How did this guy live a weather ball

32+ SpA Mega Sol Mega Meganium Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 32 HP / 32 SpD Mega Heracross: 154-182 (82.3 - 97.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Nah gg bro what is this

[shadow wind]

Jeez top 100 is above 1800

Tough draw

[timber falcon]

Outrageous

[shadow wind]

But it’s ok

I lived the pin missile

Because meganium has that W bulk

Anyway there’s still only 1 other guy on the leader board

But I guess I should probably go for seed 1 in the whole top cut

Cause then I get to go against the 32nd seed

[cyan smelt]

I'm going to have to look at the roster to check special attackers that like tr

[shadow wind]

Sylveon

[cyan smelt]

Lowkey thinking about prim

[shadow wind]

Prim is good

[cyan smelt]

Might help against the pepper too

[shadow wind]

Ehh

Sometimes they run giga drain and Prima doesn’t have a single target hit into him

[cyan smelt]

I struggle against the pepper

Maybe rotom?

Idk need to look at the roster

[shadow wind]

Personally I use Kommo but he definitely doesn’t fit on every team

[cyan smelt]

I don't think kommo-o is good on tr is it

[shadow wind]

He’s Archaludon speed

I mean he isn’t awful but definitely not a top pick

He also definitely isn’t splashable

[cyan smelt]

At least i know farig, gambit and kang is a solid core

I could do mega blastoise cheese lmao

[shadow wind]

Yuck

My lifetime win rate against Blastoise is so negative

[timber falcon]

What makes blastoise so threatening though?

I’ve lost once before but after that isn’t the solution to just hit it maybe once and watch the damage decrease

[shadow wind]

My team doesn’t deal with it well

One shell smash and it’s wraps

3 water weaks and 2 resistances sounds good until it’s meganium which means if they lead Sneasler it’s gg

I usually don’t lose to the fake out tr ones

[cyan smelt]

I have been overlooking araquanid, would be incredible in tr and cannot get burnt

[zenith hill]

blastoise with shell smash and in the rain can 1hko a max hp floette lol

gotta be max hp ofc

[cyan smelt]

I could consider galarian slowking as a secondary tr setter and something to deal with the pepper

But i already have sneasler

Part of me wants to try safeguard altaria or milotic

Or rhyperior

If i'm struggling against milotic maybe i replace sneasler with toxapex

[torn parrot]

relatable tofu moment

[timber falcon]

Oh

Never seen one use shell smash guess I’m lucky

[zenith hill]

I use it on the ladder it's so good

some tricks can only be used once tho lol. I have met opponent that knows every moves that I was going to make

[viscid garnet]

My goat 🙌

I never realized I got the title for him but I’m happy I do, makes him feel more special 🥹

Btw this is my current team in Master Ball Rank 🙏

[timber falcon]

I love the little titles and badges, makes using ur fav all the worth while

[viscid garnet]

No i totally agree

[cyan smelt]

I'm lowkey considering diggersby, huge power rock slide go brrr plus it has facade for when it gets burned

[viscid garnet]

I can’t wait to eventually get my golden Pikachu badge plus the Pikachu professor title

[cyan smelt]

It's temu ursaluna but idc

[viscid garnet]

It’ll be a while though 🥲

[cyan smelt]

If i use it i'm gonna name it temu ursaluna

But that's another fighting weakness so maybe not

I want to use hydrapple and just fire off fickle beams while they can't protect

[shadow wind]

Took me 3 days to hit 1800

And now I have 2 accounts in the top 100

[cyan smelt]

Cooking

[shadow wind]

I took a detour after hitting 1790 back down to the 1600s but I made my way back

[cyan smelt]

I think i'm going to test hydrapple

[timber falcon]

Wasn’t aware it was even in the regulation

It’s weak into like half the top 12 no?

[shadow wind]

Pretty tight competition

[cyan smelt]

In tr it doesn't matter

What's the top 12

On paper it's good, helps me deal with milotic, rotom, can ignore pepper

Even decent into stoise

All water types that are dicey for me

Regenerator gives it sustain

Safer into gambit than skele and kang are

I want to at least test it

[dry nexus]

opinions on this strat

ttar sandstorm, if it gets overwritten with different weather I swap to my cloud nine altaria, then swap back to ttar to get my sand back

[cyan smelt]

I suppose you don't want to mega ttar?

[jade dust]

Why can’t scarf Rotom OHKO basc

[timber falcon]

Idk it doesn’t seem that impressive to me

252+ Atk Huge Power Diggersby Facade vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Rotom-Heat: 75-88 (60 - 70.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[cyan smelt]

No i meant hydrapple

[dry nexus]

not really since mega aero have been giving me results

[timber falcon]

Mega aero is scary in the right position

[cyan smelt]

that's two mons weak to ice

[shadow wind]

Ice isn’t that common right now

It’s pretty much only Mega Froslass

Alolan Ninetales sucks right now imo

[dry nexus]

bring back light clay lmao

[cyan smelt]

oh good that means it's safe for me to run hydrapple

[timber falcon]

Should be fine with good coverage

[dry nexus]

keeping altaria alive really neutered enemy mega froslass when I played against it

[cyan smelt]

thinking fickle beam, giga drain and earth power

[timber falcon]

It’s fine good on tournaments tho. Maybe meta is changing fast but it came like top 5 in grand champs w gengar

[languid pebble]

Can someone help me with a team (doubles) at Champions? (There s just 3 at tge replica) .-.

[dry nexus]

it's funny sweeping the two mons on other side then bringing in altaria to do the funny perish (only works when I still have mons in the back)

[shadow wind]

Maybe I’m outdated and biased with my team

I just didn’t think it was that common or strong

[timber falcon]

As long as garchomp is so relevant a fast ice type is gonna see some play imo

And people need it to do encore gengar cant

[cyan smelt]

wonder how hydrapple stacks up against torkoal

[timber falcon]

What if you matched em together

[languid pebble]

I am new in vgc (idk how to use perish teams for example) .-.

[cyan smelt]

i would but i don't like rain dance sableye

[timber falcon]

Is this a new team btw

[cyan smelt]

no i'm replacing a9 with hydrapple

need a tr special attacker

and hydrapple gives me coverage against water types which i struggle with

[timber falcon]

Sylveon is nice

Why hydrapple over other slow special attackers?

[cyan smelt]

grass coverage mainly, and i want to try firing off dragon fang fickle beams while they can't protect

[shadow wind]

That’s alright most people don’t

[timber falcon]

Don’t u already run gambit for grass tho

[cyan smelt]

milotic and rotom are very annoying

especially the coil milotic sets

[dry nexus]

I treat perish as a win con when I manage to sweep both enemy mons in the field while still having at least 1 in the back

[languid pebble]

Can u share your team? I want to learn perish

[dry nexus]

im probably not one for this because I don't really play the usual perish trap

[cyan smelt]

would be nice to hit basculegion with the fickle beam as well

[languid pebble]

If someone can suggest a good team pls

I hate earthquakes and garchomps -.-

[cyan smelt]

garchomp really doesn't like basculegion

[dry nexus]

and basculegion doesn't like kingambit so bring in sneasler as well

[cyan smelt]

the triangle

gambit, sneasler, basc

[dry nexus]

starter trio at home ahh

[cyan smelt]

lmfao

[shadow wind]

Nah it’s so real too

I hate it

[cyan smelt]

give us amoonguss back pls

we need the sussy shroom

[shadow wind]

Thankfully my team is good into those

For the most part

It was kinda the point of the team

[dry nexus]

the team I've been using has a 6th member issue

[shadow wind]

So does mine lowkey

[cyan smelt]

what's your team

[dry nexus]

and maybe I'll remove tailwind on altaria since it barely gets used

[cyan smelt]

how about run gravity sing lol

[dry nexus]

it has perish

[dry nexus]

it looks like this rn

it was a hisuian zoroark on the 6th

[shadow wind]

Why not just something like Basculegion or Garchomp

[dry nexus]

actually I'll try the ttar idea I had earlier here

and I'm gonna be fr sneasler has not been giving me results so far this week

[cyan smelt]

ok i'm ready to try hydrapple on a fresh alt, i don't forsee ttar being a problem anymore, unless it has ice punch...

[dry nexus]

man the perish really works well if I'm in the lead

it really does hinge on staying alive as I set the perish up

[shadow wind]

Funny enough I just switched mine to ice punch

[dry nexus]

but that's why I trained the ttar, meganium, and altaria to be bulky

[cerulean nacelle]

That is a top tier aero name

[dry nexus]

😂

I'm so close to benching sneasler but I need the fake out pressure

is the fire cat a better fit here? I don't have sitrus berry for it though

[cyan smelt]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2602915759-dxcneeaxrfd600qrab1annfkj6hdn4cpw hydrapple is fucking hilarious man

[shadow wind]

That fickle beam animation is wack

[timber falcon]

Why did it hit so hard

[cyan smelt]

all out attack

i hit the 30% lmao

[timber falcon]

So 160 bp out of nowhere?

[cerulean nacelle]

Your hydrapple legit said "let's use every last drop"

[cerulean nacelle]

It's a 1/3 chance.

Well a little less.

[cyan smelt]

it feels like gambling and i'm all for it

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/ryu-ryu-ishigori-jujutsu-kaisen-ryu-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-gif-7744492609538646669

[cyan smelt]

makes me want to use it more tbh

[cerulean nacelle]

omg Jane juliet

[cyan smelt]

honestly farig + kang is such a killer lead

i might have stumbled on gold here

[cerulean nacelle]

Honestly, when AV was in the game in SV, I just ran AV hydrapple in singles.

Can spam fickle beam for the potential 160 BP dragon move, heal when you switch out with regenerator and just not die.

[timber falcon]

Got me to 1600 literally just spamming this

[cerulean nacelle]

Unless you run into an ice type move... then you die.

[timber falcon]

Whenever I didn’t see farig I just led Kang + Farig, swap to formal and it was usually Ggs

Except for when rain

[cyan smelt]

oh damn i lost

[timber falcon]

Game?

[cyan smelt]

they had hamurott, sylveon, zard y and chomp

[cerulean nacelle]

TR kang do just be clicking buttons. Do you run drain punch for gambit?

[shadow wind]

I’ve been seeing more hamurotts

[shadow wind]

Low kick I think

[cerulean nacelle]

Fairs

Only thing that worries me about kang is just mega scovillain ngl.

[timber falcon]

Hammer arm make myself slower

[cerulean nacelle]

Hammer arm is a shout

[timber falcon]

Yah it was a weird set from the grand champ tournament

Ice punch, hammer arm, FO, double edge

Lack of dark move makes things tricky tho

[cyan smelt]

my goat hydrapple lived a dragon claw from mega chomp

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah, getting flat walled by basc or gengar isn't particularly lovely

[cyan smelt]

also it did it again https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2602922239-iuebaty29cdkvanudsbywodkfuoqbgbpw

this is funny

[timber falcon]

Risky t1, what do you run on Kang?

Low kick, ice punch, FO and double edge?

[cyan smelt]

yup

damn lost to a sludge bomb crit

farig and kang is so goated

[shadow wind]

Double normal does that

Sometimes

[cerulean nacelle]

What's worse than a mother?

a child

[cyan smelt]

finally I have an answer to Milotics

[timber falcon]

More double edge

[cyan smelt]

giga drain

[timber falcon]

That’s probably better

[shadow wind]

I hate it when Milotic lives solar beam from meganium

But also it has 125 spdef so I can’t be that shocked

Milotic lowkey has gross stats

[shadow wind]

Whoa

Apparently spamming the send button on mobile send more than 1

But this is just gross

[timber falcon]

79 defence huh

When in doubt double edge

[shadow wind]

It has more bulk than Volcarona

And that guy can be made into a monster

[timber falcon]

But it doesn’t do too much damage in return

It’s just annoying to deal with

[cyan smelt]

Rain is still tricky

[cerulean nacelle]

Only does damage if you let it do damage

cough cough competitive

The real annoying shit is when people abuse things like gravity sableye or meowstic with hypnosis milotic.

[cyan smelt]

this team is actually quite fun

i like it

except when I get outplayed by mega froslass and garchomp and sneasler

[cyan smelt]

or when they use mega lucario and incin or mega pinsir and sneasler

[cyan smelt]

I'm not bringing sneasler, idk who else to use

[plain rover]

Is Aggron good?

He's my favourite guy so I hope he is

[solid frigate]

It’s workable just not that easy

[plain rover]

[cyan smelt]

give it sinistcha

[plain rover]

What if I change his type

Away from Rock/Steel

[cyan smelt]

the mega is pure steel

but it likes healing and redirection

[plain rover]

What if I use soak on the base form

Would that let me save the mega for a different mon

And not die after a single ground move

[cyan smelt]

wasted moveslot

[timber falcon]

Ik people use it mainly with competence but I’ve just emptied been seeing many incins at all

[cyan smelt]

I lost to a roar incin

[timber falcon]

Mega aggron should really be tanking any ground move rn (physical)

[timber falcon]

I can feel ur pain

Yesterday I lost to not only quick guard lucario, but roar sylveon

Can’t get up tr there

[cyan smelt]

Also seen a lot of scizors, farigs and some lucarios in lower ladder

But it's decent into meta stuff

[real prairie]

6 days to try push to CT, anyone wanna help me? lol

[timber falcon]

What’s CT?

[real prairie]

champions tier

[timber falcon]

Oh so rank 1?

[real prairie]

haha no, no chance im getting rank 1

top 300 is champions tier

ill take bottom of that

[timber falcon]

Welp I’m hard stuck at 20k

Good luck tho

[real prairie]

yeah i can't seem to push past 2100

[cyan smelt]

I can't get past the lower ladder cheese on showdown

[real prairie]

ill be honest i haven't touched SD since Champions release lol

[timber falcon]

I’d play champions more if rental teams were easier to input

[cyan smelt]

Should i try hydrapple on cart lol, it'll be funny if nothing else

[real prairie]

when this comes to mobile I may genuinely end up fired for lack of productivity lol

[cyan smelt]

Most milotics only carry icy wind so i can giga drain them and it does tons of damage or i can fickle beam and giga drain

[solid frigate]

I just run Haze and Recover

[cyan smelt]

And scald?

[solid frigate]

Scald Haze Icy wind Recover

Haze is just against Set up and Coil Milo

[cyan smelt]

And gambits ig

[mighty stump]

I’m washed bro don’t watch me

[cyan smelt]

mega heracross is annoying af

[chrome knot]

astral barrage

[shadow wind]

Glacial Lance

[cyan smelt]

precipice blades

running into all sorts of shit, mega garchomp with ice beam milotic

[shadow wind]

I saw a mega Garchomp earlier

He kinda exploded in front of me

[solid frigate]

You mean literally exploded or

[shadow wind]

Nah he got ice punched by Ttar

[solid frigate]

Ah fair

[cyan smelt]

i'm struggling with this team

[chrome knot]

encore disabled

[real prairie]

just faced a gravity team.

Gravity expired they still hit 4 hypnosis and 2 focus blasts

[solid frigate]

bro's luck is enough to win a lottery atp

[real prairie]

Still goated clearly! whats been your main team?

[plain rover]

I meant base Aggron

I'm listening to Karen and trying to win using my favourites

[solid frigate]

this line aged horribly

[plain rover]

I can try

[solid frigate]

its gonna be way more difficult without mega helping it

[indigo coral]

I'd argue that it didn't age horribly, it was only meant to apply to casual story playthroughs. It was never meant to apply to competitive Pokemon.

[timber falcon]

It’s gonna explode against almost everything

Gonna be difficult to even find a niche for it considering garchomp and sneasler are everywhere

Even bad against rain

[plain rover]

Fine I'll use Mega Banette instead

[timber falcon]

Niche but works better

[plain rover]

It's pretty decent with tailwind

Sucker punch also

[timber falcon]

With 75 base speed isn’t trick room the more consistent method?

Otherwise u still just lag behind to opposing tw

[plain rover]

What if I used both

[indigo coral]

75 is solid for Tailroom yeah

[timber falcon]

Should work yeah

[plain rover]

And had Cinderace court change Tailwind on the other side to make them slower

[indigo coral]

Cinderace isn't in Champions

[plain rover]

Damn

[timber falcon]

Didn’t even realise they cut off Gen 8 starters

No wait

Rilla is gone ofc

[plain rover]

They got rid of Rillaboom but not Incineroar

[shadow wind]

I miss him

[timber falcon]

We

[plain rover]

Favouritism at it's finest

[shadow wind]

I mean they took out all terrain setters

[timber falcon]

I’m really not a fan of all terrain setters just gone

[shadow wind]

But grassy terrain keeps the eqs in check

[plain rover]

When they add them back they should throw in the Tapus also

Cause that was thier whole thing and they don't even get to do it anymore

[solid frigate]

thats kinda the only reason why i am running EQ Zard X

No Grassy terrain to limit that option lol

[timber falcon]

What’s the whole moveset?

[solid frigate]

Flare Blitz Dragon Claw EQ Protect

Did think of roost but Sinistcha exists

[timber falcon]

So dragon dance isn’t necessary

[solid frigate]

Ironically I think it’s worse without actually dedicated on Zard X since I am running dual Mega

[timber falcon]

Oh dual mega with zard X?

Mind if I see the team?

[timber falcon]

Ooo

[solid frigate]

Ironically works better than Rain despite I don’t like Zard X casually

[cerulean nacelle]

Aurora veil froslass my goat!

[timber falcon]

Does froslass ever work with zard in the same 4? Or are the modes different

[solid frigate]

I would write an Essay on this team but I have Irl stuff to deal with so maybe later

[cerulean nacelle]

I'd assume different modes because froslass by itself is so shit without mega

[solid frigate]

2 different modes

Physical Zard without Mega hits like a wet noodle

[cerulean nacelle]

They're very specific megas so I'd assume it'd be like

Zard X good into sun match up, froslass good into rain etc.

You pick and choose your mega depending on what does better where.

[timber falcon]

I like the contrast

Never though of having 2 megas for 2 different modes

[solid frigate]

Rain depends on what they have

But yeah the logic is here

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeahhhh that's fair. Still its that kinda mindset I'd assume.

I did something similar with mega froslass + mega aerodactyl. But in the end I preferred sash on aero so it could also be just a lead to then support my mega froslass later with tailwind if I cared less about setting up veil and more about doing damage.

[solid frigate]

Aerodactyl is literally just

Milo Corv lead and hope for the best

Cuz as far as how the team contrast,it’s more linear than you think

[cyan smelt]

this team is hot garbage

[timber falcon]

The hydrapple one?

[solid frigate]

Why would you use Hydrapple-

[cerulean nacelle]

Tbh I feel that. Against aero leads I tend to go either froslass + incin or frosslass + milotic. A defensive froslass protect when you predict them to try and rock slide the froslass and hit em with an icy wind can be all you need.

[solid frigate]

Icy wind plus Iron Head is all I need

[timber falcon]

After playing farig + FO idk if I can play another lead duo

[cyan smelt]

because there are no good grass or electric types and i hate milotic

[timber falcon]

Just thinking about trying to remove aero from the field stresses me out

[timber falcon]

Helioptile

[solid frigate]

R o t o m

[timber falcon]

Oh yeah and rotom

[cerulean nacelle]

He is annoying. Hence why he joined my team.

I do probably need to edit my team. Incin is just a liability it feels like. Good into TR most times but still bad into kingambit. It's just weird.

[cerulean nacelle]

Heliolisk*

Rotom is a good boy. Really good into aerodactyl too if you run scarf ewebs

[timber falcon]

Oh yeah I said the pre evo mb

[solid frigate]

lol

[cerulean nacelle]

Can't believe you would make such a foolish mistake

banished

[cyan smelt]

til gengar can get encore

[clever root]

Meganium felt far too volatile to use, so i'm back to the drawing board with these 3

[cerulean nacelle]

Upper hand supremacy imo

[clever root]

I forget it has that

Considering it doesnt have hands

[cerulean nacelle]

it also gets rain dance. Pokemon doesn't make sense lol

[bold geode]

More like Smelly Barrage coming from you :3

[clever root]

I should probs get a slow mode going too

[cerulean nacelle]

Bulky will o wisp rotom can actually be a decently good slow partner.

Or prankster sableye who can set up screens, change weather, quash, encore, fake out etc.

Though I'd say having at least 2 levitate or EQ immune partners with chomp is useful.

[clever root]

I am so tempted to slap on crab again

[shadow wind]

Or atleast have protect on 4/5 partners

[clever root]

Ice hammer instruct crab is so fucking funny

[chrome knot]

nuh uh wtf

[bold geode]

Yuh Huh

[cyan smelt]

hydrapple sucks so i'm gonna replace it with something else, idk what

idk with what though, preferably something not weak to scizor

[shadow wind]

Incineroar isn’t weak to scizor

[cerulean nacelle]

Incineroar also sucks into pretty much everything else good rn though.

[shadow wind]

And somehow he’s still the goat!

[cerulean nacelle]

He's serviceable. I use him predominantly because he's slow, so he works into trick room decently well.

[cyan smelt]

i mean then i have incin, gambit, skeledirge, farig, kang, sneasler, kinda unbalanced

i think i need a rotom

[cerulean nacelle]

Washtom do be that dude.

And it gives you a water type which can help deal with other water types, whether via thunderbolt or will o wisp to hit them pesky bascus

[cyan smelt]

scarf washtom means i wouldn't be reliant on tr as the only mode either

[cerulean nacelle]

Scarf ewebs is good. Just gotta be careful with it.

[cyan smelt]

gambit

[cerulean nacelle]

And milo

[cyan smelt]

i was thinking tbolt hydro pump and wisp

and volt switch

wait that's not what scarf washtom runs

[cerulean nacelle]

If you want bulky rotom

I'd say hydro, tbolt, will o wisp protect is the safest play.

[cyan smelt]

and sitrus?

[cerulean nacelle]

I typically run sitrus or lefties

[cyan smelt]

lefties is taken

[cerulean nacelle]

By dirge I assume

[cyan smelt]

yes

dirge has been pretty good

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah I'd say rock sitrus. Unless you find that holding the magnet or something actually makes a tangible difference but it most likely won't.

[shadow wind]

I’ve seen some run rindo

[cerulean nacelle]

That's also fair. Gives you a guaranteed living hit from zard Y or venu.

[cyan smelt]

hmmm rindo could be clutch

[real prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vpWvIhbCaA

[shadow wind]

Now wait till they see my game where I flinched 8 times

[cyan smelt]

I sure hope rotom helps me because i feel like farig gambit, kang, sneasler skele is solid

[solid frigate]

Average Aerodactyl game plan:

click tailwind
Click rock slide
Profit

[shadow wind]

Average Excadrill game plan:

Rock slide
Profit

[real prairie]

average scarfchomp:

Rock slide
Profit

You all see the guy running rock slide Aegislash lol

that killed me

[solid frigate]

Ya know that one Isnt as shitty as those two

[real prairie]

theres a lot more of them though lol

I had someone run max speed chomp Y'day and pretend it was scarf until i proct its sitrus berry then he changed moves

[pliant kelp]

woo i just hit MasterBall 1

[shadow wind]

W

[cyan smelt]

Not average Sneasler : rock slide
Profit

[zenith hill]

Let’s gooo

[cyan smelt]

I sure hope rotom fits on my team because hydrapple was really bad

I think the advice of sticking to one niche pick per team is a good one

[clever root]

Thoughts on focus energy scope lens hydreigon

With clef / maus as its follow me partner

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2603150930

I got live commentary in the chat 😭😭

[zenith hill]

Sounds badass ngl

[cyan smelt]

Waittttt i just realised i can run meganium now since hydrapple didn't work and i'm no longer running a9

That would solve my pesky water types matchup

It would be perfect in tr too

[shadow wind]

2 accounts in one screenshot

Reminds me of my Groudon days

[zenith hill]

Why didn’t hydrapple work?

[cyan smelt]

Doesn't do enough damage

[shadow wind]

Hydrapple as a vgc mon is always pretty meh

[cyan smelt]

Especially not to gambit and arch

[cerulean nacelle]

My assumption would be because of hydrapples typing and lack of damage. Dragon/grass leaves it 4 times weak to ice so it's bad into froslass, weak to fairy, flying and poison which means mega floette and sylveon, sneasler and mega aero, talonflame and corv can all do big damage to it etc.

[cyan smelt]

It's really really bad into scizor too

[cerulean nacelle]

^ this too

[cyan smelt]

But meganium can hit it with the weather ball

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah. Meganium is also somewhat volatile. But it at least has better general coverage that pack more of a punch.

And access to stronger stab moves freely.

[cyan smelt]

It's also better into chomp