competitive_discussion

[molten oasis]

No Tera helps those guys a bunch, but ik zama enjoyed Tera

[shadow wind]

Groudon when the dog and whale can’t turn into a grass type

[lunar night]

does intense harsh sunlight get overrun by drizzle

[shadow wind]

Miraidon when every Mon ever can’t turn into a ground type…

[molten oasis]

I’m still thinking zacian didn’t, CIR always being a losing mu sucked

[shadow wind]

Do you mean desolate land?

[lunar night]

yes

[molten oasis]

Also, xerneas nuke button

[chrome knot]

miriadon is gonna be a nightmare holy fuck

[lunar night]

we have xerneas at home

[chrome knot]

u can’t escape a pummelling

[shadow wind]

Desolate is not overridden by drizzle no

[lunar night]

what about strong fairy types like that ghost

[lunar night]

does it get negated by Cloud Nine

[chrome knot]

and miraidons friend iron bundle

[molten oasis]

Mirai also, obliterates ogre

[shadow wind]

Doubt it

[molten oasis]

And groudon with Draco

[shadow wind]

Pretty sure it’s just primordial sea and delta stream

[molten oasis]

miraidon’s gonna be nuts…

[lunar night]

i don’t rmbr acc seeing much use of it after Reg H for some reason, like i see it every now and then but it’s not as common as ppl said it was

[molten oasis]

No Tera tho, so that’s good

[spiral ridge]

I’m gonna get my baby restricteds back

[lunar night]

idk it’s based off of my experience

[spiral ridge]

Idc if they’re gonna be demons I just want em back

[molten oasis]

There’s no Tera fairy dazzling gleam shit

[lunar night]

pixilate hyper voice maybe

closest thing we have

[molten oasis]

Can’t wait for Pogre Zacian

[spiral ridge]

Remember that thundurus me and monkey used to
Oh wait no fairy Tera nvm

[molten oasis]

With, some mega of some sort

Probably salamence

Maybe Gengar

[spiral ridge]

I want mirai zama csr back I love em

Although without Teras it’ll be faster which kinda sucks I liked balance with a beefy fucking zama

[lunar night]

for some odd reason

i really want Indeedee back

like not even a restricted

i just want Indeedee

[molten oasis]

Eh

[chrome knot]

when the format turns into icy wind wars there will always be a faster one lol

[molten oasis]

I’m fine with no terrains rn

[lunar night]

it gets Heat Wave and Moonblast now so i will find a way to make it good

[molten oasis]

No psyspam

[spiral ridge]

Prio tw please save me

[molten oasis]

Indeedee gets heat wave?

[lunar night]

i wonder who the new psyspam user will be in a few months

[molten oasis]

Alakazam

[lunar night]

as of ZA

[shadow wind]

Mega alakazam hopefully

[chrome knot]

whimsicot friend

[molten oasis]

And people coping on fucking weezing Indeedee Delphox

[spiral ridge]

You have been evil gremlin encoring I hope you know

[lunar night]

why settle on psyspam when you can float on a broom and click psychic

[spiral ridge]

I need to play champs more I got sucked into Minecraft somehow

[molten oasis]

Encore is great pressure lol

[spiral ridge]

It was better than sunny day lol

[molten oasis]

I’m liking encore disable stuff

[spiral ridge]

And I’m not so much a bitch I’d do endeavor

[molten oasis]

I have encore phox and disable a9 with the stuff I’m using rn

[spiral ridge]

I have morals

[molten oasis]

lol

[lunar night]

encore rarely works for me bcs they predict it

[molten oasis]

How?

[lunar night]

like instead of fake out they double target my whimsi

[chrome knot]

scream tail gaming

[molten oasis]

Okay whimsi is a huge pest

Fighting whimsi sucks

[lunar night]

it’s only on my team bcs it fits my aesthetic

[spiral ridge]

Pftt
I meant your emmie whims but you’re loud enough to be a scream tail

[chrome knot]

hey!!!!

[lunar night]

‘lol fck you get encored’

[molten oasis]

True

[spiral ridge]

Stinky!

Prolly gonna swap whims to aero for a bit to try it

Would let my chomp have stomping

[molten oasis]

Kinda hope that uh, no paradox for a while, but idk if that’ll be the case

[lunar night]

can Mega Altaria be good i wonder

[molten oasis]

I DO wanna see a format with ub’s and paradox

[lunar night]

i wanna see if i can run Iron Valiant as a strong Special Attacker

ik i can but will i be able to

[molten oasis]

fluttermane’s right there…

[lunar night]

who’s prettier

[molten oasis]

Flutter

I hate flutter too

[lunar night]

no it’s Iron Valiant

[spiral ridge]

I can’t wait for flutter back

[lunar night]

what fun is running flutter when you know its moveset

[spiral ridge]

Flutter zard sillies

[molten oasis]

Raging bolt zard y flutter

[lunar night]

why not run special Valiant instead as a surprise

[molten oasis]

[spiral ridge]

That actually sounds sm like a team I would use

[lunar night]

valiant was made to be everything but instead has done nothing

[spiral ridge]

Those and a wide guard user sounds like my playstyle lmfao

[molten oasis]

I’ll still be on phox but I’ll need flutter answers

And Pao answers

[spiral ridge]

Clef once they add eviolite

[molten oasis]

Scarf urshifu probably

[spiral ridge]

So for now sini

[molten oasis]

And some steel type so maybe gambit or smth

[spiral ridge]

Heavy slam mega aggron

[molten oasis]

Aggron when heat wave:

[spiral ridge]

Shhhh

[lunar night]

it dies to any marginally strong special attack

what a fraud

[spiral ridge]

The wall does not concern itself with spa fire moves

[lunar night]

what abt SpA fighting moves

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/mega-aggron-the-wall-gif-23706647

[chrome knot]

no !

[lunar night]

gamble on Focus Blast

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-arceus-oshawatt-hyperbeam-gif-24698086

[spiral ridge]

Mmm
Checked with Lucy
Yes

[lunar night]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-hyper-beam-gardevoir-alolan-ninetails-destroy-gif-6625434004395096357

[spiral ridge]

Chud osha

[molten oasis]

I wish the champions hyper beam animation was in the gifs

[lunar night]

answered

[spiral ridge]

Shh

[molten oasis]

Oh huge

[lunar night]

the power of mega gardevoir

do i have the model for it

oh i do

wow he’s so pretty i wish he wasn’t so frail

[chrome knot]

shes not even close to me rn

im in a different country than lucy rn shes in my bed snuggling her wife dawn

[spiral ridge]

She knows

She always does

[cerulean nacelle]

He's specially bulky and surprisingly bulky if you invest in HP.

Same with mega froslass. Thanks to aurora veil and investing in HP and defense, mega froslass can become a tank.

OK maybe not a tank but they take more hits than what you'd realise

[chrome knot]

look at my lele @spiral ridge

[spiral ridge]

Woahhhh
Pretty

I’ve never owned any of the tapus I should go back and play usum

[cerulean nacelle]

Ik tapu lele was good in singles. Koko was also everywhere because he was Mr I can do it all guy.

[spiral ridge]

Koko and and psychic terrain one both saw usage in doubles too I think

I meant to shiny hunt them in da

[pliant kelp]

heyo, i broke the top 5k today in pokemon Champions. Dont have anyone to tell so im posting here. feel free to ignore me 😄

[dense latch]

congrats!!

[lunar night]

oh ye i mean physically

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/PengyTwitch/status/2050995271719342512?s=20

Stefan Mott (@PengyTwitch)

2-0 tables at the champions local oops

X · May 3, 2026, 5:45 PM

[clever root]

ur the goat, what moves does ur sylveon have if you dont mind sharing?

[polar canyon]

I hope it's hyper beam

[pliant kelp]

My sylveon is modest with 32 SPA and 32 speed

Quick attack
Hyper voice
Moon blast
Psyshock

Favorite thing to do is lead with sylveon and garchomp when I know opponent will lead with sneasler. Protect the fake out on my garchomp and 1 hit the sneasler with psyshock

[polar canyon]

Interesting

[pliant kelp]

32 speed let's sylveon outspeed a garchomp in tailwind and one hit it with moon blast as well

[polar canyon]

That's very diferent from how I play sylveon

It's cool to see other ways

I tend to take more advantage of the special bulk it has with max hp

And some sneaky kos it can get with hyper beam

As a momentum tradeoff tool

Slows your pace but can kill theirs

I use it as a wild card to snipe win conditions

I played too much with mega starmie I need to play a more conventional mega for a bit

Or I could build for mega floette + another niche weirdo I like in a dual mega team

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah but she already hits like a truck, what else could you ask for

[cerulean nacelle]

I do like the hyperbeam plays. Ive just done the hyper voice + sacred fire + Quick attack variant (helps kill scarfs) but hyper beam seems fun

[lunar night]

not dying to a glint of steel

[cerulean nacelle]

I mean... mega floette dies to a glint of steel and also hits like a truck. I think its a small price to pay.

[lunar night]

true

[cerulean nacelle]

Also besides kingambit and maybe aegislash, steel aint that common in the format.

Or like... the random mega aggron or mega scizor. But in my experiences those are a lot rarer.

[dark sorrel]

Archaludon and Corviknight are fairly common too

[polar canyon]

Max hp max spatk sylveon is good into archaludon

If your hyper beam doesn't miss

Ohkoing their win condition or even bringing it down to sturdy is pretty big

[cerulean nacelle]

tbh, thats very valid.

[cerulean nacelle]

id say archaludon is more common than corviknight purely becuase of scarf sets or rain teams.

I don't see corv a lot ironically.

[dark sorrel]

I don't see much corv either but it shows up on tournament teams that i see

[viscid garnet]

Just reached master ball for the first time ever in a VGC ladder!

With my goat Pikachu at that

[timber falcon]

Can’t wait to eventually face this on ladder

[viscid garnet]

Wolfey’s “OHKO” team (me when the only OHKO move is fissure and it’s a perish trap team)

[cerulean nacelle]

I genuinely hate everything about this lol

[viscid garnet]

I already hate perish trap in general and this team makes me feel even worse lmao

[timber falcon]

Trying to get rid of the lax is gonna be infuriating

[clever root]

tryna think if I do run meganium and glimm as my two megas, what do I need to do with the rest of the team

I think maushold for longevity instead of clef

[stuck perch]

Helping hand Pokemon be fucking me turn 1 🙂

[clever root]

its why i might keep unaware clef instead

[next dust]

Any ideas on why the tr team just doesn't flow properly? I've tried tweaking everything. But since I never really use the mode I am hitting a brick wall trying to figure out why it's only going 5/10

[clever root]

you need a trickroom mon

[stuck perch]

Yeah

[clever root]

im blind

[next dust]

A second one?

I have mimikyu rn

[clever root]

i did not see the mimikyu lmfao

would oranguru be better? it can make itso your hard hitters swing even harder

[next dust]

Hmmmm

Doesn't oranguru get instruct?

[stuck perch]

Yes

[next dust]

Could help with sustain for double drain punches and doubling into anything I don't ohko

Yeah that sounds like a smart change

Any other glaring things that stick out that don't make sense?

[timber falcon]

Why toxicroak

Isn’t it just a worse sneasler

Nvm min speed ig

[next dust]

Sneasler is too fast for tr toxi is slow enough to operate in it. Giving me basically temu sneas in tr

Plus it does well into muddy water milotic

[timber falcon]

So this is a hard tr team

[next dust]

Yes

[timber falcon]

I don’t think there’s much synergy I’ll be honest

[next dust]

Disregard sneas ability I was testing whether dry skin or poison touch is better. I normally run dry skin

[timber falcon]

I can’t see why all these mons would work amazing together

Besides maybe typing

[next dust]

I think it's more I'm missing spec damage

[timber falcon]

Definitely

[next dust]

To cover. Heavy phys team.

Was thinking about removing clefable

I almost never bring it

[timber falcon]

I think a spread move under tr is something to try out

Could you explain what your average lead would look like?

[stuck perch]

I just lost to a team of Pokemon that countered all the Pokemon I have that beat Mega Blastoise

[next dust]

Depending on teams I have led mim+toxi into rain, mim+golurk into a few sableye+conk into sand

It is not often, but some situations sableye+mim has been led.

[timber falcon]

Golurk is already quite niche

Have you tried a meta core before this?

[next dust]

Yes

I am running golurk just because I want to try him

[timber falcon]

I meant meta core with golurk

[lunar night]

Poltergeist Golurk is rather powerful

[next dust]

Oh no.

[lunar night]

i’ve run a triple mega team with golurk and it got me quite a lot of success

[timber falcon]

3 mega stones?

[next dust]

It over shadow punch has a chance to miss

[next dust]

I prefer to be not so dependant on rng

[lunar night]

who doesn’t carry an item in this day and age

[timber falcon]

Poltergeist is OHKOing a lot more tho

[lunar night]

base 110 with 150 attack

[timber falcon]

Nice this looks Petey cool

[lunar night]

unless we’re not counting Mega

[next dust]

90 acc regardless of if it has item or not is what I am saying

[lunar night]

oh i won’t risk it since golurk is rather frail

and by frail i mean it dies to a rotom

[timber falcon]

100% accuracy of you hold the mega tho

Still pretty hard hitting if you’re worried abt that

[next dust]

How is polti 100% if I hold the mega

[timber falcon]

No guard

[next dust]

?

[lunar night]

who doesn’t hold an item

[next dust]

That isn't how polti works man

[timber falcon]

Oh I meant like not using mega straight away

[next dust]

You don't get a garuntee if they have an item

It is a 90 acc move

[lunar night]

oh i thought it was 100

[lunar night]

i’ve never missed one when Mega so i assumed it was 100

polteageist

[lunar night]

interesting

[next dust]

That's the only reason I've been running shadow punch

[lunar night]

ah

how well does Mega Gardevoir do guys

[next dust]

I believe I have also been running iron fist over no guard

Pretty sure I didn't even check his other abilities

[lunar night]

Floette use seems to be dying down

in favour is the more glamorous mega gardevoir

[timber falcon]

Missing out on a lot of damage by going shadow punch dang

[next dust]

Which makes shadow punch a 72. Respectable but no 110

Yeah I'll try that instead

[cerulean nacelle]

Even without no guard, poltergeist is so much better than shadow punch lol.

[lunar night]

yar

[timber falcon]

I think the 90% risk is worth it

[next dust]

I decided not to run it simply because I tend to have horrible luck

Every time I need a 90 to land it doesn't

[cerulean nacelle]

That's just rng. You're just as likely to miss a heat wave, rock slide etc.

[next dust]

Yes. But I miss mine a LOT

So to remove that I run 100 acc moves

[cerulean nacelle]

But the damage boost is substantial.

You might miss the poltergeist and that's unfortunate. But shadow punch may not get the kill at all.

[next dust]

Like out of ten tries with a 90 move most days I can land 4 or 5 I have terrible luck

I just got sick of it and went for 100 acc instead everywhere I could

[timber falcon]

Can’t let rng hold you back 40bp man

[cerulean nacelle]

Can't always win games without risk

[next dust]

This is a dumb question. But would I just benefit more by swapping golurk with chestnaught mega

[timber falcon]

I don’t see why you would

They don’t fit the same role so they?

[next dust]

My only trouble would be into sun w/mega at that point but I can find other ways to ohko a zard

[next dust]

Well it was my first tr mega choice

[timber falcon]

Less hard hitting

[cerulean nacelle]

Chesnaught just suffers from very poor typing.

[timber falcon]

That too

[next dust]

Yeah flying fire ice poison psychic fairy hurts

[timber falcon]

Especially in this meta

[stuck perch]

Double weakness to flying, weak to psychic, fire,

[next dust]

But golurk is weak to water grass ice ghost and dark

[next dust]

Double only to flying

[stuck perch]

Yeah those

[timber falcon]

Under tr golurk mainly fairs the gambit

[next dust]

4x flying 2x everything else

[stuck perch]

That's wat I said

[next dust]

I didn't see the weak I'm stupid

Thought you said double for them all

[cerulean nacelle]

In a meta where mega floette is everywhere and trick room gardevoir is fairly common, i think chesnaught struggles

[lunar night]

weak to every meta threat

[lunar night]

i run Tailwind Gardevoir

[cerulean nacelle]

Not to mention zard Y

[stuck perch]

lol Ik my typing that's the fundamentals 🤣

[cerulean nacelle]

I've rain tailroom garde

[next dust]

It's been a long day of trying to make this work 😂

[cerulean nacelle]

Because base 100 speed is quite a good speed for both.

[lunar night]

yes

[next dust]

If we swapped the mega what would work best?

[lunar night]

my team is hit hard or die trying

[stuck perch]

https://tenor.com/view/oopsies-ohno-gif-25793283

[lunar night]

sitrus

it’s specially bulky

[next dust]

Huh?

[lunar night]

oh Golurk

[next dust]

If we swapped the mega pokemon, what would work best lmao

[lunar night]

what pokemon are we talking abt golurk or gardevoir

[cerulean nacelle]

I think he's on about if he swapped mega golurk

[lunar night]

like a strong physical attacker?

[next dust]

Golurk. If we swapped golurk mega out would something else fit the slot better for this team

Like camerupt? Or drampa?

[lunar night]

Drampa’s too weak or smth but it can work fs

[cerulean nacelle]

Kingambit is just good into the meta and very good in TR.

[lunar night]

ik that base 165 Sp Atk hits like a truck

OH WAIT

MEGA AMPHAROS

perfect TRoom mon and he looks glamorous

[next dust]

The original team was supposed to be chestnaught and camerupt dual mega team. Then I second guessed and dropped to golurk

[cerulean nacelle]

Mega ampharos unfortunately does literally nothing.

[lunar night]

no trust it does smth

Crabominable maybe?

[cerulean nacelle]

It has no good coverage and it's limited in stab options.

[next dust]

Crab would be a full team rework

Hm

[lunar night]

it’s Miraidon with no Hadron Engine

[cerulean nacelle]

Post the team again because I'm tired of scrolling back up to see what you have lol

[cerulean nacelle]

It's also miraidon with no draco meteor

[timber falcon]

Ampharos doesn’t get Draco???

[timber falcon]

Never stood a chance did it

[cerulean nacelle]

Both megas that become dragon only get dragon pulse

It's a huge part of what also limits mega sceptile

[lunar night]

wait ik that Mold Breaker Dragon Pulse can do a ton of damage to multiscale Dragonite

[cerulean nacelle]

That's also a very niche scenario

[lunar night]

nein, but it can do about the same damage without lowering SpA

Ampha lost access to Flash Cannon in ZA

[cerulean nacelle]

It really cannot. Dragon pulse vs draco meteor isn't even close. Even with ampharoses high special attack stat.

[lunar night]

but what’s Draco for though, aside from end game KOs

[foggy lodge]

cuz its the difference between killing something and surviving a turn or missing a ko and getting kod back

[cerulean nacelle]

^

[lunar night]

ah

[stuck perch]

Perfect matchup lmaooo

[cerulean nacelle]

Even with the miss chance, a 130 BP auto kill on a lot of mons is useful.

And partially why scarf archaludon is seeing use.

[lunar night]

bro why are all the pretty megas either strong but lack something, too weak to do anything worthwhile, or are just bad

like for example, Mega Audino, Altaria, and Ampharos

[pallid hare]

thats just how megas were designed, design first, stats later

[cerulean nacelle]

Because gamefreak has favourites.

Though ill argue mega froslass is gorgeous and also strong.

[lunar night]

it’s what now

[lunar night]

i never knew Delphox was a favourite tbh

same with Floette like

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah draco meteor is a 130BP move with a 90% accuracy rate.

Much higher than... what is it. Base 85 or 80 for pulse?

[lunar night]

i think it’s 85

[cerulean nacelle]

But yeah once again it's like shadow punch vs poltergeist. The damage difference is jsuy drastic.

[lunar night]

new potential mon

if it wasn’t for Garchomp and Basculegion imagine the things it could do

i like how it spins

[cerulean nacelle]

Mega glimm does see some play because it's pretty good into delphox, good into mega floette and froslass etc while they all can't threaten a ko on it

[stuck perch]

I win lmaooo Spritomb for the stall will o wisp, pain split protect combo 🤣

[cerulean nacelle]

That's sableye levels of evil lol

[stuck perch]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-wade-i-love-it-head-shake-gif-15630188

[lunar night]

it acc gets quite a few coverage moves

[lunar night]

ah

[lunar night]

how do i do the moves

[lunar night]

wow ok

ah learn

[lunar night]

flash cannon and dazzling gleam damn

[cerulean nacelle]

Coverage ain't why you use glimm. It's coverage isn't that important. Adaptability on its stabs is enough.

It's why the other 2 moves are typically spiky shield and sub

[cerulean nacelle]

Also what does flash cannon hit currently that sludge bomb doesn't? It doesn't make mega glimms match into ttar any better ngl because ttar can eat any hit from glimm even adaptability boosted

Dazzling gleam maybe to hit garchomp. Earth power maybe to hit opposing glimms. But overall coverage is an afterthought.

[lunar night]

oh i forgot it got sub

i run earth power for kingambits

[clever root]

Got 4/6 mons done, i think i need a speed controller, possibly rotom or talonflame

[stuck perch]

Estrogen?!! 😭🤣

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-is-going-on-here-hank-hill-king-of-the-hill-revival-what's-happening-here-king-of-the-hill-gif-12314192181925700459

[clever root]

Its a good name

[stuck perch]

Yeah just like Epstein huh?

[lunar night]

[clever root]

What

How does my naming my former alpha clefable "estrogen" have anything to do with epstein?? @stuck perch

[stuck perch]

It don't but I've seen both names in game

[clever root]

It's a rather weird thing to say, since it had 0 relation to estrogen

[wheat rapids]

how do ppl counter archaludon

guy just doesnt die

[clever root]

Close combat

[bold geode]

Can we not

[stuck perch]

https://tenor.com/view/calm-down-jamal-chill-hands-gif-18830727

[stuck perch]

Mega Lucario close combat or mega galade close combat OHKO

[timber falcon]

Or just do chip damage

Can’t OHKO every potential threat

Ground or fighting STAB is usually the way

[stuck perch]

Yeah I use kill it in 2 hits the second move being close combat well definitely kill it

[stuck perch]

True

[wheat rapids]

might have to put sneasler on the team -.-

coaching is also way too strong of a move

[clever root]

252 Atk Tauros-Paldea-Aqua Helping Hand Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Archaludon: 218-260 (110.6 - 131.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Mueheheh

[timber falcon]

Contrarily they may smack you with an electro shot

[clever root]

Its why my last 2 mons gotta be a tailwinder and tauros paldea

[leaden fox]

Hm, been experimenting on a new team recently; it has a total of (over 20 games) a win rate of 85%

Has no "Intimidate" on the team, but has a means of countering it at least

It's climbing well on Showdown; so if I get to 1500+, I will likely get this team in the game xP

[cerulean nacelle]

Sash gambit is interesting.

[chrome knot]

cis girl mon

[cerulean nacelle]

Just makes me think of people calling sylveon oestrogen

[chrome knot]

what

[cerulean nacelle]

There's a meme of people just mispronouncing and straight up getting pokemon names wrong.

And they call sylveon oestrogen

[chrome knot]

the meme is calling it something that sounds the same

that sounds like babytrans slop

[cerulean nacelle]

It probably is ngl

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

gm nova

[craggy dagger]

good awakening-

[chrome knot]

i went to zoo today

[craggy dagger]

ooo
how was it?

[chrome knot]

funnn

[craggy dagger]

sounds fun

did u see any cool animals

[chrome knot]

yus but they were sleepers

mostly cuddling tho which was soso cute

i also pet a giraffe and gave her lettuce

[pallid hare]

That sounds awesome

[craggy dagger]

[cerulean nacelle]

what animal you like the most?

[chrome knot]

this fat ass penguin who was alone in the corner

[winter fox]

PENGIN

[bold geode]

Baby's first slop

@chrome knot do I use the Wolfe GC team

[solid frigate]

No bunny this time?

[chrome knot]

woa hi bunny

[cerulean nacelle]

awhhhh a pengling!!!

[spiral ridge]

Are you smart enough for perish trap

[cyan smelt]

I don't think the changes I made to my team are working so I'm going back to my original team

[cerulean nacelle]

What's ur current team and what are you struggling against.

[cyan smelt]

Rain and i changed from a9, gliscor, skeledirge, kang, gambit, sneasler to farig, gliscor, gambit, dirge, sneasler, kang

[chrome knot]

explodes you

taco bell on the way

[spiral ridge]

:(

Can you get me smth

[spiral ridge]

@merry summit you

[chrome knot]

nooo

[spiral ridge]

I’m so hungryyy

[chrome knot]

maybe when get pizza and gummy tmrw

[spiral ridge]

Yayy

Haven’t really eaten all day so woozy just chilling at work

[chrome knot]

i forgot smth very important for trip ao i was sad

[spiral ridge]

Awe what

[chrome knot]

mints

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah rain ve hard sometimes. Dirge just doesn't have a good match up at all. Neither does gliscor.

[spiral ridge]

Can you not
Buy mints in Texas?

[chrome knot]

kiss mint

[spiral ridge]

A wha

There’s chicken tenders at home that I am starving for but knowing my brother his ass prolly ate them

Still pissed he drank a whole half gallon of chocolate milk the day I needed it

[pallid hare]

half a gallon of chocolate milk, good lord thats way too much to drink at one time

I've tried

[spiral ridge]

Teenage boy who does wrestling

It was at the very top of the recycling bin too
Washed and everything like a carcass picked clean

I almost cried

Lowkey haven’t properly eaten since Saturday I’m realizing oops yeah if those tenders are gone I’m fucked LMFAO

[cyan smelt]

Neither does gambit

Thinking about adding meganium but i already have a9

[molten oasis]

They do different things

[cyan smelt]

Yeah but two steel and fire weaknesses yikes

And two sneasler weaknesses

[spiral ridge]

The calm and helpful garchomp

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-pokemon-gif-23499272

There’s a reason a9 chomp is awesome

[cyan smelt]

Chomp don't like the ccs from sneasler

[spiral ridge]

It tanks them

Basc then

[cerulean nacelle]

It can take one, even if it's max speed max attack

[cyan smelt]

Maybe i go chomp over gliscor then bc it's neutral to water

[spiral ridge]

Definitely chomp over gliscor

[shadow wind]

Well

[cyan smelt]

But then i lose tw

[spiral ridge]

God dayum

[spiral ridge]

There are better tw setters than gliscor

[shadow wind]

I love playing Archaludon teams

Aura sphere kablammy

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2601853292

I swear Kommo the goat

[cyan smelt]

Kommo-o clangorous soul aura sphere?

[shadow wind]

Yup

[zenith hill]

anybody knows when does the result from global challenge come out?

[zenith hill]

hey is this for global challenge? how would you check this....

[shadow wind]

This is showdown

Do people not know what slowdown is anymore??

I have had 3 people ask me if this is the gc

[zenith hill]

how would I know from a random chart..

[shadow wind]

It’s anything but random

Showdown is so widely known

[indigo coral]

Why Showdown when Champions? It's the same format except only Champions gets you anything tangible

[zenith hill]

people knows what showdown is, just not from a random chart that you posted out of nowhere, there's no need to be condescending because of that

[shadow wind]

I can’t play champions on my phone

[shadow wind]

But anyone who has ever used showdown could tell you it’s from showdown….

[indigo coral]

But real answer, Champions brought competitive accessibility to the casual audience who plays through the story with their favorites and doesn't EV train. It's only natural it would bring a lot of growth to the scene from completely new people to competitive pokemon unfamiliar with Showdown

[shadow wind]

Erik please back me up 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[dense latch]

champions is way more accessible relative to sv but showdown games are still faster, easier to teambuild and change in + bo3

[cyan smelt]

I need golisopod

[dense latch]

champions is not a direct replacement to sd

[spiral ridge]

Showdown will always have a place even with champions around

[cyan smelt]

Does emergency exit still activate even with shadow tag?

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[dense latch]

yes

[solid frigate]

and less to no bugs

[dense latch]

like sometimes i just dont wanna pick my switch up, im already on my laptop and want to test a team before making it in champions

[solid frigate]

and like very minimal cost on switching EVs for testing

[indigo coral]

I don't know for certain, but I would assume so given that iirc Parting Shot, Flip Turn, etc work. Iirc Shadow Tag just prevents manual pivots I think?

[shadow wind]

And until mobile champions comes out I’m banished to showdown

[indigo coral]

I would imagine mobile Champions is probably coming next regulation, so likely in a month and change

[zenith hill]

and knowing that doesn't make you a better person

[solid frigate]

Korea said it’s around June so wait for a bit (iirc)

I just hop back and forth on showdown and Champions

[indigo coral]

Oh it's May already. Yeah a month and change lines up then for it to drop on the Regulation change

[solid frigate]

There would be new Pokémon joining in but we have no info which one we have

And items

[shadow wind]

Is bro trying to guilt trip me 😭😭😭

80 GXE

[mighty stump]

Alright let’s settle down kids

[shadow wind]

Boom

[solid frigate]

Just ignore atp

[shadow wind]

Nah I know right

[mighty stump]

Lmao did you make a new acc

[shadow wind]

I had to !

For a ladder tour

[mighty stump]

Cause we clowned your GXE

[dense latch]

tbf if you're not super familiar with the showdown ui it might not be immediately recognizable

[shadow wind]

Probably true

It’s so ingrained in my brain at this point I forget

[indigo coral]

Do we know that a new Regulation is guaranteed to bring both new Pokemon and items? I was theorizing that it would just be items at first to keep the meta stable for mobile launch, I am probably wrong though

[shadow wind]

Nah I entered a ladder tour and you have to make a new alt for them

Although I did use that as motivation

[mighty stump]

if it’s about SD - we practically have an influx of 500k+ newbies who don’t know anything so atp SD knowledge actually would be less common due to dilution

comp mons in general

I’m sure you’ve all seen more nonsense and misinfo and bad gimmick teams floating around more than usual

[indigo coral]

Hard to say gimmick teams are bad when Wolfey got 6th in the GC with OHKO moves Perish Trap

[shadow wind]

Lots of Horoark confusion

[foggy lodge]

The cybertron effect is way more noticeable now

[shadow wind]

“Why is Garchomp immune to low kick😭😭😭😭”

That kind of stuff

[dense latch]

yea but he's wolfey

[shadow wind]

Cause even less people are making their own teams now

[indigo coral]

What's the Cybertron effect?

[mighty stump]

Gimmick teams are not good ways to learn the game lol

[foggy lodge]

i love when they see zoroark on team preview, its inmune to moves, uses bitter malice and they still dont figure out its zoroark lmao

[mighty stump]

Wolfey can do whatever he wants, as with any player who has accomplished fundamentals

[zenith hill]

light screen archaludon team I would guess

[mighty stump]

When a team floods the ladder due to videos being made on it particularly by Aaron

[zenith hill]

they are everywhere on the ladder

[indigo coral]

Ah gotcha

[solid frigate]

https://x.com/pokemaineevent/status/2051372500005593102?s=46
nice timing

Mainer Ghold (@PokeMaineEvent)

Friendly reminder:

▶ Play video

X · May 4, 2026, 6:44 PM

[shadow wind]

I’m so happy I hit 80 GXE

And like this time I earned it

29-4 is cooler than 17-0 imo

[mighty stump]

Congrats its a good milestone

and over 30 games too

[foggy lodge]

I like our team

[shadow wind]

Unfortunately I do have to keep playing on the account

[foggy lodge]

But now its split between the cooler version and the cringe version

[shadow wind]

So the 80 won’t last forever but at least I hit it

[shadow wind]

So true

[mighty stump]

I need a new team I built a team to play 3 games of the GC that auto lost to Kingambit

[dense latch]

we take those

[shadow wind]

Yup

Screenshot exists so it’s all good

[dense latch]

at least it wasnt 79.9% who would ever get that close and then lose three games in a row

[shadow wind]

And I hit it while waiting for an interview 🔥🔥

[shadow wind]

Not a clue, I doubt I know anyone who would do that or has done that in the past

The amount of times I’ve thrown 80 is shocking

[mighty stump]

Me tbh

Id always hover like 77-79 back then proceed to eat shit

[dense latch]

can relate

[shadow wind]

Same

I just super lock in from time to time

I’ve now hit 80 3 different times

[mighty stump]

I only hit like 1-2 times

[shadow wind]

1 ranbats, 1 Reg I bo3, 1 champs bo1

Honestly I don’t know how I hit it in rands

[mighty stump]

I need a team

[shadow wind]

It was a stupid school burner alt too

[mighty stump]

Btw did ya’ll know the Crab gets Upper Hand

This thing sucks so bad though

[dense latch]

i hit in once in mix and mega and once in an account i grinded with alongside a friend

so like 1 and a half

[timber falcon]

from hovering at near 80% to grasping the 70s

showdown is cruel

[shadow wind]

Still more than most people

80 feels like the first really hard milestone for GXE

At least for me

[timber falcon]

im still tryna reach it for the first time

[shadow wind]

70 you can hit by going like 8-0 on the ladder

70 is obviously still very good

But 80 feels like I just climbed a mountain

[timber falcon]

it feels like im climbing a mountain and slip near the end

[shadow wind]

And it’s so easy to lose GXE

Like you lose 1 game and you lose like 3 GXE early on

[dense latch]

you have to get lucky too

[timber falcon]

the more games u go it just gets harder

[shadow wind]

And you win and you get .4

[shadow wind]

100%

[dense latch]

hope you dont get elo downpairs too bc those tank gxe like crazy

[shadow wind]

I remember the first time I hit 80 in vgc I won my last game and got like 1.2% or something dumb

[shadow wind]

Usually when your GXE is higher you’ll get more up pairings

[timber falcon]

yet im satisfied with the results either way

ill now try build a kang team of my own

[shadow wind]

I think they try to match gxes?

I know the first time you lose you lose like 3 GXE

Cause like you can go 17-0 and hit 80

But depending on when you lose you might need to go like 22-1

[dense latch]

i dont think i did myself any favors playing reg i in big may 2026

[shadow wind]

😭😭

Bro could be having fun going against Sneasler basc and gambit

But instead he’s playing Zama CSR

[dense latch]

Lima 1-3 drop isn’t gonna happen on its own 🔥🔥

[foggy lodge]

you have to believe erik

[shadow wind]

Guys how early do I go into an establishment saying I have an interview

15 minutes early?

I’ve lowkey been sitting in the parking lot for an hour

[dense latch]

idk im unemployed

[shadow wind]

W time for mons but

[shadow wind]

Currently me too

[dense latch]

i have no idea what the level is gonna be like there

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[dense latch]

i feel like the floor should be higher than na regionals but the ceiling is lower

[foggy lodge]

Like 10 minutes before its fine

[shadow wind]

I’d say that’s reasonable

[shadow wind]

I even have my collared shirt on

This one hasn’t left my dresser ever

[timber falcon]

just went up by 0.3 GXE theres no point is there

[shadow wind]

There is !

[timber falcon]

just wont budge anymore

[shadow wind]

Maybe you’ll hit an elo peak

[timber falcon]

true true

[shadow wind]

I hit my peak elo in this format

So maybe you can too

@foggy lodge is our team difficult to pilot?

[timber falcon]

its just if i do id like it to be my own team, yk

[shadow wind]

4 quad weaknesses isn’t the easiest thing to work with I’m now realizing

[shadow wind]

So valid

[foggy lodge]

if you miss your moves yeah

But actually how many moves do we miss

[shadow wind]

We have like 4 missing moves

[foggy lodge]

Rock slide
Rock slide
Hhp
Heat wave

[shadow wind]

Yup

[foggy lodge]

Nah its fine

[shadow wind]

Alright cool

[foggy lodge]

I don't feel like you lose much by missing your moves even when you do

[shadow wind]

Nah unless it’s like a rock slide on Zard y

Or hhp on Sneasler

That one sucks when it happens

[foggy lodge]

Cuz honestly if a team can lose games just by missing one move it can also be a teambuilding problem cuz it just means its a team with 0 margin for error

[shadow wind]

True

[foggy lodge]

But our team isnt it

[shadow wind]

HHP is like the only exception

[dense latch]

what’s a “my team” i only know how to steal

[shadow wind]

Cause it’s 95 so it’s like whatever

[shadow wind]

Not when we make our own 🔥🔥

[foggy lodge]

this is like the first team i build a real team LOL

[shadow wind]

Also Maxi if you want to engagement farm with any of my screenshots go ahead

I never post things anyway

[dense latch]

true true

[shadow wind]

And it’s a banger

Lowkey struck oil with this one

Not like gold where it’s handed to you we still needed to make it not crude

W analogy

[foggy lodge]

True

[shadow wind]

I don’t even know where you “submit” teams to show off other than like VGCPastes

Is smogon still doing totw?

And I mean if we’re still tweaking it maybe we don’t submit yet

But also we have the creds and screenshots for it

An 1855 account and an 80 GXE account

[dense latch]

i remember cybertron featured one of maya’s reg h teams

that’s like the ultimate team feature

[shadow wind]

Yeah that was cool

The Ribombee team

But she also hit #1 on the ladder

It was early ladder but who cares

I’ve never hit rank 1

[dense latch]

my highest ever on cart was 30ish

[shadow wind]

I’ve peaked rank 2 🥈🥈🥈

[mighty stump]

Just do a team post in replica teams and post on twitter and ping VGC pastes

[dense latch]

i got 2nd in early reg g 2 i think

[shadow wind]

Maxi you wanna do that or do we wanna wait?

[mighty stump]

My legacy is hitting rank 1 and being the first to use Tinkaton next to Gholdengo and being on CybertronVGC YT

[shadow wind]

That’s pretty sick

[mighty stump]

i need a new legacy

LOL

old news!!!

[shadow wind]

Unfortunately I think our team is way too similar to the VR tour winning one

[foggy lodge]

And ribombee ended up being real

[foggy lodge]

Yeah ill wait

[dense latch]

wait true

that marco team

[foggy lodge]

I want to see how high i can get on in game ladder

[shadow wind]

Valid

3 screenshots would really drive it home

[dense latch]

reg h 2 was a format of all time

[shadow wind]

It’s gonna kill me to play on that 80 account

But for the greater good I must

[bold geode]

Showdown is that WWE thing right

[shadow wind]

So true

Unfortunately I don’t think 1591 is a ladder tour winning elo

[bold geode]

Plz man
PLEASE let's do something

[shadow wind]

Bros begging 😭😭😭

[bold geode]

Bro I've been just going back and forth between 1800-1900, I need Papa Tofu to once again carry my ass

[shadow wind]

Was going to say that was incredible then remembered elo ≠ rating

[timber falcon]

u say that like its a bad thing, some of us are struggling down here😭

[bold geode]

Yeah no in Champs

[shadow wind]

Champions doesn’t exist in my mind right now

I would so rip mobile champions right now

Living in a house without wifi is killing me

[bold geode]

How do people get that low in Champions

[bold geode]

Play Champions in the local McDonald's

[shadow wind]

I’m literally at the local McDonald’s

Like right now

[timber falcon]

oop i assumed showdown ladder

[bold geode]

Well did you bring your Switch?

[shadow wind]

Nah I’m here for a job interview

Need a job badly

[bold geode]

Bro if I'm ever at 1800 in the Showdown ladder, you will not see me depressed

[shadow wind]

1800 is very hard in showdown

[bold geode]

You have to have an interview for McDonald's?

[shadow wind]

Guess so

[bold geode]

It's McDonald's

[shadow wind]

I’m on a working visa so it’s not outrageous

[bold geode]

Bro imagine getting turned down in the interview at McDonald's

[shadow wind]

I think they need to make sure I’m actually allowed to work

[bold geode]

I think I'd become ceiling decor

[shadow wind]

I’d end it all

Real

Anyway time for my interview, see y’all on the other side

[stuck perch]

That's a nightmare

[foggy lodge]

Btw

Did anyone see that Fedecampo won the GC with Ariados😭

[dense latch]

yeaa

how tho

https://tenor.com/view/mishima-persona-persona-5-persona-5-royal-p5-gif-3447807483809629810

why isnt the original dj khaled one not a gif lol

[bold geode]

I was wondering who won
That's hilarious

[dense latch]

https://x.com/FedeCampoVGC/status/2049937094919782406?s=20 im assuming it was this team

Federico Camporesi (@FedeCampoVGC)

ROAD TO RANK CHAMPIONS WITH ARIADOS

https://t.co/fBRGd7s5uz

X · Apr 30, 2026, 7:41 PM

i refuse to believe fede campo made TWO ariados teams

[timber falcon]

meta hell then just ariados😭

walls sneasler tho

[dense latch]

it can only get paralyzed from dire claw which is pretty funny

[timber falcon]

holy thats worse than i thought

funtioning base stat of 340 yeesh

[mighty stump]

@bold geode papa is busy

[chrome knot]

mcdonalds is fun

fuck u grocery store boy

[spiral ridge]

Dayum

[shadow wind]

Why is meganium the goat

I thought this dude was going to suck so bad

[spiral ridge]

Free sun is nice

[timber falcon]

Especially when it means you can still benefit off a different weather mode

[cyan smelt]

I just realised I want to keep farig because it helps me with those annoying blastoise farig teams

I def want to go imprison tr protect but idk about 4th move

[timber falcon]

Hyper voice or psychic usually

Both have their flaws

[cyan smelt]

Hyper voice can't hit ghosts or steel or ttar well but neither can psychic

I have to remember i don't always have to set up tr

[shadow wind]

If it’s imprison I’d say hyper voice could be better

Just cause there’s a couple hyper voice mons right now

[winter fox]

Finally omg

[cyan smelt]

Yeah i like imprisoning tr and protect, the farig blastoise teams like to fake out and set up tr

[shadow wind]

Yo I love that guy

[cyan smelt]

I should hop back on showdown

[timber falcon]

I’m having a hard time deciding which Mega I should build my team around

[cyan smelt]

Meganium

[timber falcon]

I’m a passionate meganium hater

[cyan smelt]

Ttar

[timber falcon]

Even if it got a mega

Mega ttar teams are a thing?

I thought it was secondary

[cyan smelt]

Idk i think people run base ttar with chople instead

[timber falcon]

I do like my normal types

[cyan smelt]

I'm lowkey thinking of running this instead of mega kang because it can hit arch really hard and fake out ghosts

[timber falcon]

I wanna build a full team around it

[shadow wind]

Why’s that

[timber falcon]

I think it looks ugly

[cyan smelt]

But i already have sneasler

[timber falcon]

And I hated playing it in soul silver

[cyan smelt]

But it might be nice to cc the hell out of those sableyes

[shadow wind]

I like the flower neck

[timber falcon]

I don’t like it’s bald head

[shadow wind]

It has antenna

[timber falcon]

Still pretty bald

[cyan smelt]

Cc sableye, imprison protect so arch can't protect

[shadow wind]

Bro just hates bald people

[timber falcon]

Don’t add a mega for that one MU I don’t think it’s worth 😭

[timber falcon]

Kangaskhan is bald and I love it

[cyan smelt]

I can just cc with sneasler

[timber falcon]

Meganuim baldness just gives me bad vibes

[shadow wind]

I love Meganium

[timber falcon]

I don’t think lopunny gets great normal STAB

[cyan smelt]

But yeah idt a9 was working but I need something to override opposing weather

[timber falcon]

Altaria

Better yet drampa

[cyan smelt]

I could use drampa, it works in tr

[timber falcon]

I’ve seen a few with it

[cyan smelt]

But that adds another sneasler weakness

[timber falcon]

Sneasler is a non issue once tr is set up

And as long as farig lives

[cyan smelt]

Yeah but i have gambit, kang and drampa

[timber falcon]

Oh yeah that’s gonna hurt eventually

I feel like in this format tr is worse ?

[cyan smelt]

Tr is bad because sableye can just rain dance

[timber falcon]

As in it’s harder to get those important KOs in those 5 turns

[timber falcon]

What I did actually

I ran u turn sneasler with charizard. Lets me swap into torksol and get sun boosted attack off

[cyan smelt]

I guess farig is just there for anti fo then

[timber falcon]

What item does farig have?

[cyan smelt]

Sitrus

[timber falcon]

I found chopple berry almost unstoballe when setting tr

Gambit is scary after all

[cyan smelt]

You mean colbur

[timber falcon]

Ah yeah mb

Ik I’ve seen the 6 before, but if you don’t mind may I see a paste?

[cyan smelt]

Just need to hop on my computer

[timber falcon]

Alr thanks

[cyan smelt]

My teambuilding skills are bad tbh, even after all this time I feel like I don't get synergy or how mons fit well together beyond like having earthquake and a flying or levitate mon is good

[timber falcon]

dont worry man im in the same boat. Im just at the stage where i borrow teams from tournaments and try to learn them

[cyan smelt]

I think a9 has been underwhelming both damage wise and what it provides

[spiral rock]

anyone wanna try out this team and see if they can spot a weakness not being covered
N6TAY5CD81 i feel like i punish alot of defensive or setting up strategies with encore alot and it really disrupts most players I go against rn I'm on a 12-4 Win loss ratio the losses are things i could've chosen better

[cyan smelt]

https://pokepast.es/3589f9596d03b467 this is the team

[rustic mountain]

y

[rustic mountain]

i saw, insane

[spiral rock]

bro doesnt like that theres no miraidon or paradoxes

[rustic mountain]

i saw battlerooms vid on the team, its a hilarious watch

[timber falcon]

smth feels off but i cant put a finger on it

[spiral rock]

any reason why there's an F by kang's name does it being female mean anything?

[cyan smelt]

it always is

[timber falcon]

its a mother

[shadow wind]

Can’t play it currently

So I’m a showdown warrior once more

[rustic mountain]

y tho

[spiral rock]

i thought there were always female no matter what

[shadow wind]

House I’m staying in doesn’t have wifi

[rustic mountain]

damn

[shadow wind]

And I don’t feel like hotspotting to my switch 😭

[rustic mountain]

if u were a real gamer u would

[shadow wind]

I could technically go to like a cafe or something

[timber falcon]

hence the F, usually you get the choice to choose the gender. But with Kan its auto an F

[spiral rock]

ah okok

can i share a team with yall ?

[timber falcon]

of course

[foggy lodge]

1950 with the team in rankeds

[spiral rock]

https://pokebase.app/pokemon-champions/team-builder?team=69f9709439e8722f451b07e5

[foggy lodge]

8 wins in a row that's cool

[rustic mountain]

nice

[shadow wind]

Which version of the team

[foggy lodge]

Bascu

[shadow wind]

😔😔😔

[rustic mountain]

u still on sash basc

[foggy lodge]

Its won me too many games now to drop it😭

[shadow wind]

Oh tree I hit 80 GXE

[spiral rock]

im trying wolfey's 2-4 ratio of supporting and offence and it seems to work i think

[foggy lodge]

Nah im scarf now cuz its a tytar team

[timber falcon]

as the lead Mega here, kang might benefit with some form of sustainability i think. Its as if im looking at a team that has kang as a support, yet its the primary mega attacker. take with a grain if salt ofc

[foggy lodge]

And it would break the sash

[spiral rock]

although im new to team building

[cyan smelt]

well i need it to hit chomps and aeros

[rustic mountain]

grats dude, uve done it quite a few times now thats impressive

now get some wifi

[shadow wind]

Went 29-4

[timber falcon]

primarina?

[cyan smelt]

too slow

[timber falcon]

under tr tho it controls both

[cyan smelt]

i also struggle with rotoms and milotics

[timber falcon]

dont we all

[cyan smelt]

basically water types and rain i struggle with

[timber falcon]

water type is great defensively so its no surprise

[rustic mountain]

d law u didnt link a team just the site pokebase

[spiral rock]

rotom wash?

[cyan smelt]

any rotom

[spiral rock]

? really

[rustic mountain]

i clicked it and saw nothing just the option to submit my own team

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/3589f9596d03b467 jst putting this here so i dont have to scroll up

[spiral rock]

they account for each other's weaknesses but im trying to get other eyes on it

[timber falcon]

gliscor looks like an odd one out for me, why is he there again>

[rustic mountain]

overall good mons, sitrus gambit kinda weird u have scarf open for basc which can give u speed options outside of tw, also id say whims w/ sunny day is good for delphox especially into rain teams where its gna struggle as ur lone mega

[cyan smelt]

couldn't think of what else to put + anti sneasler + tw

[spiral rock]

mmm bet bet

[foggy lodge]

Id run another move on Delphox since you already have encore on whimsicott

Like substitute

[timber falcon]

for both those roles doesnt aero just do it better

[spiral rock]

prankster encore doesnt work on dark mons learned that lesson last time

[cyan smelt]

aero doesn't like to take a cc from sneasler

[mighty stump]

The amount of people running Scarf Gallade

What is this

[rustic mountain]

it doesnt but doesnt mean u need double encore either, sub also works on delphox imo

[foggy lodge]

Anti sneasler gambit technology

[mighty stump]

It is so fucking wack man

[spiral rock]

what would u recommend on gambit cuz i see chople berry but haven't ran into alot of fight moves

[rustic mountain]

has any1 played a bunch of calm mind baton pass espathra?

[shadow wind]

Yup

[timber falcon]

had me scratching my head when this happened

[spiral rock]

ic

[mighty stump]

yep me too

[rustic mountain]

chople or black glasses

[rustic mountain]

dude 1 was bright powder i just needed 1 connect and i was good lmao

[spiral rock]

ig chople for more staying power then

[rustic mountain]

fighting moves are around enough

especially opposing gambits, sneasler for one, ttar runs fighting moves, lopunny is picking up

[timber falcon]

but ignoring herb, you outspeed and dual wingbat kils always i think

[spiral rock]

lol has anyone seen sand veil stunfisk with bright powder in sand

absolute nightmare \

[mighty stump]

bro

ive been getting hit

with all the random rock moves

for the last 7 games

[rustic mountain]

yea i played vs rock tomb sneasler just b4

[mighty stump]

literally right now

[cyan smelt]

i guess i'm just worried about faster mons outspeeding and koing aero before it can do what it does

[spiral rock]

also can someone experiment kings rock tandamouse with pop bomb

[rustic mountain]

they missed then i burned them and won

[foggy lodge]

that was my experience playing zard y in the first week of champions

everything running rocks😭

[spiral rock]

i always guaranteed a flinch but staying power and how to build around it idk

[mighty stump]

This is embarrassing behaviour like build a real team my god

[timber falcon]

i think i went around 20 games without bringing zard y out of fear for such shenanigans

[foggy lodge]

its not really good

Pop bomb misses too much and the odds of a flinch arent that good anyways

[rustic mountain]

we need indy to happen to flush out all these cheese teams/moves
true good teams always prevail

[spiral rock]

NO

[foggy lodge]

like me and conner's team!!!

[rustic mountain]

or the formats cooked and entrainment hawlucha day 2s

[mighty stump]

Format is cooked

Im switching it up

Zard X it is

[timber falcon]

pretty sure watchog has made it day 2 at some point

[spiral rock]

someone ran that on me and theyforgot eq was a thing

[rustic mountain]

nah these are grassroots early days stuff tho, those mons wont last

[timber falcon]

zard X with venasaur in CTS so they never see it coming

[mighty stump]

ur right

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[mighty stump]

im gonna create new wave balance

[rustic mountain]

sneasler w/ coaching is nice w/ zard x

takes advantage of the passive protects

[spiral rock]

how much does mystic water boost again? w adaptability on basc

[foggy lodge]

Zard x milotic inci sneasler sinistcha is cool

[timber falcon]

sinistcha pivot spam can make removing it after 1 dragon dance a real task

[pallid hare]

mystic water boosts water damage by 20%

[spiral rock]

mm so not alot

[mighty stump]

good luck to every1 im running Haze

[spiral rock]

but it OHKO's char Y in sun

thats why i kept it on but someone suggests scarf it seems

[timber falcon]

just last respects

[rustic mountain]

i might to depending how much more set up based the formats gna b

[spiral rock]

for how many fainted mons?

[timber falcon]

i havent seen a single set up team

[mighty stump]

set up is like king rn

[timber falcon]

ive been runninf torkoal spam with tr so maybe i just havent given em time idk

[rustic mountain]

yea its seemingly gaining more traction from my recent games
cm floette, ddance zard x, espathra stuff etc

[timber falcon]

espathra really?

[rustic mountain]

yea dude

[timber falcon]

so what then they baton pass

[rustic mountain]

w/ mega scovillian

[mighty stump]

yep

[rustic mountain]

baton pass into arch some ppl have politoed for psych up

[mighty stump]

And raid boss Archa

[zenith hill]

OK GC results finally out guys

[mighty stump]

Which people are desperate to run with the amount of effort

[timber falcon]

anything to amp archaludon this format is going to hell

[rustic mountain]

i got good lines into sableye arch stuff the espathra team is miserable tho

u hav to make so many right calls

[zenith hill]

I was getting so lucky this time lol top32 let’s gooo

[timber falcon]

congrats

[spiral rock]

thats goated

[dense latch]

woaahh that's crazy

[spiral rock]

u get champ points right?

[dense latch]

huge congrats

[mighty stump]

grtz

[zenith hill]

thank you!!!

[zenith hill]

I'm not sure lol

[rustic mountain]

grats