damn grats
#competitive_discussion
shadow wind
damn grats
With a clean 68 GXE
molten oasis
i think rotom sucks and rotom sucks for this team are 2 different things haha
I have felt this way about Rotom on everything I’ve tried
shadow wind
🤧🤧🤧
Sometimes I wish I didn’t spam games with mega Chimecho
My Kommo journey has been a rough one
clever root
I think I need counters for garchomp, bascu, and speed control
So in reality i need a dark, an ice, and smth to control speed
Why cant i just give myself kyurem-white smh
clever root
The constant shuffling of the redirection mon is so relatable
shadow wind
I think I need counters for garchomp, bascu, and speed control
So in reality i ...
Mimikyu is pretty good for that
Minus the speed control unless you give it tr
shadow wind
The constant shuffling of the redirection mon is so relatable
Maus to Clef to Volc
Chimecho was so close to be goated
I’m so lying no he wasn’t
shadow wind
Volcarona days of quiver dancing are lowkey over
The fact that it has to stay a fire bug type offensively is really bad for it
clever root
I do think the other two (primarina and dnite) are good options, the only mon I need to counter now is bascu
shadow wind
Kingambit is the like the basc counter
clever root
Yeah true
He slots p well into the team too, and he can be my TR offense, whereas prim could be smth else that can deal with chomp
I think clefable might be it, good redirection and can be fat as hell
shadow wind
Clefable is cool
clever root
I stand corrected, rock slide is funny as hell
shadow wind
I found it hard to use but maybe it’s a skill issue
clever root
I stand corrected, rock slide is funny as hell
I wanna try shalpha hunting skarm now too, i need the biggest bird
rustic mountain
I have felt this way about Rotom on everything I’ve tried
its a good mon tho
like atleast for this format
bold geode
You started with Chimecho?
shadow wind
Unfortunately yes
obtuse leaf
I hit ultra ball league today too! Rarely play competitive Pokemon and went on a 12 win streak
molten oasis
its a good mon tho
I’d rather use basc or Milo like 90% of the time tho
I haven’t found that piece to fit any hole in a team I have yet
hasty river
scarf rotom lowk gud fast webs is very cool in an aero basc format
i don’t run it anymore cuz it does like negative damage but having electric damage and ground immune is very strong rn with like 0 gud electric types…
stuck perch
I hit ultra ball league today too! Rarely play competitive Pokemon and went on a...
Belt to ass 🤣
timber falcon
13 game win streak so close to 1500
somehow after making a fresh account i climb ladder so fast
stuck perch
13 game win streak so close to 1500
This the global challenge?
shadow wind
somehow after making a fresh account i climb ladder so fast
Easier opponents
shadow wind
This the global challenge?
Clearly it’s the showdown ladder
cyan smelt
I think the gc is done
last yarrow
I've reached a point where I stopped caring about winning & am just having fun making teams people don't expect to see like an icy wind basulegion. I reached ultraball, that's good enough for me :3
timber falcon
Easier opponents
and I’m still rated higher than on my main 💔
This was with the Kang team I previously didn’t get
timber falcon
Never been to 80% I’ve never been more locked in while playing
shadow wind
I’ve hit 80 twice before
Once I went 17-0 and the other time I was playing ranbats during school over like a week
timber falcon
17-0 in OTS is a level I hope to achieve dang
At the start I always end up losing a few games
shadow wind
Yeah it was 17-0 bo3 ots
stuck perch
Clearly it’s the showdown ladder
I don't know ball
shadow wind
I actually have all the replays from that account which I’m thankful for
timber falcon
Yeah it was 17-0 bo3 ots
Hm I stopped using bo3 ots assuming champions would be cts only
shadow wind
Yeah this was back in sv where I only did bo3
timber falcon
Ah fair
shadow wind
But now I’m a bo1 cheeser
timber falcon
We all are eventually
shadow wind
All roads lead to bo1 cts
dense latch
But now I’m a bo1 cheeser
never thought the day would come
shadow wind
I know right
shadow wind
So it seems
molten oasis
But now I’m a bo1 cheeser
We’re both on our villain arc
shadow wind
It’s just an honest sand team
The only gimmick is the Volcarona
Holding a passho berry
Ggs
cyan smelt
85.2% gxe jfc
dense latch
some of the gxes in high ladder are crazy
timber falcon
It’s good to think positive
cyan smelt
Anything above 65% is good
molten oasis
My team is honest
Show ur paste
dense latch
My GXE is really good right??
top 25 is top 25
we take those any day
i think my gxe was even worse the only time i made top 25
shadow wind
top 25 is top 25
Top 25 is indeed top 25
I wonder what my GXE was last time I was at 1800
It was 72.7
Jeez
My skill has only gone down
Funnily enough though last time I hit 1800 was also with Ttar drill Corv
molten oasis
While GXE is smth I like looking at
dense latch
had to really dig to find the last time i made it that high lol
molten oasis
Idc lmao
dense latch
but yea slightly higher gxe slightly lower elo
molten oasis
I usually set soft goals for teams like “oh if I hit 1500-1600 with not a bunch of issues I should be good” kinda think
But I mostly play to see if the team feels good, and go from there
shadow wind
but yea slightly higher gxe slightly lower elo
Almost exactly the same that’s funny
dense latch
what does that corv set live
shadow wind
Not a clue
molten oasis
Rock slide shit
dense latch
looks very specific
shadow wind
It really isn’t
shadow wind
had to really dig to find the last time i made it that high lol
Do you what format this was?
timber falcon
really is just a strong team
shadow wind
And it only has 4 quad weaknesses
molten oasis
Yea
molten oasis
That’s awesome
shadow wind
It always feels so good when teams are actually fun to play
And I would say the team is fairly honest
It’s just deceptively fast I guess
timber falcon
took a break and finally hit my quota
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2601069727 then again, some of these teams are intersting
timber falcon
so many garchomps have fallen prey to it
and i get why its used, with so many teams usually being able to stall tr getting rid of the chomp in one fell swoop almost always decides games
timber falcon
this is the second freeze ive ever got with it
foggy lodge
Makes sense to use ice punch yeah
shadow wind
took a break and finally hit my quota
I think you should push higher
foggy lodge
Garchomp is super good at dismantling some TR comps
shadow wind
A 77 GXE means good stuff
foggy lodge
Farig Incin Torkoal stuff so having the move to OHKO it
molten oasis
Go go gadget earthquake
cyan smelt
One ice punch to break multiscale, the second to ko
timber falcon
I think you should push higher
ill try
shadow wind
Good luck soldier
foggy lodge
I genuinely saw a Garchomp at the grand champions festival 1v4 a TR team😭
molten oasis
There’s no way
timber falcon
I genuinely saw a Garchomp at the grand champions festival 1v4 a TR team😭
insanity
molten oasis
Garchomp’s the goat holy shit
shadow wind
Indeed he is
cyan smelt
Maybe i should put ice punch on kang since i struggle with chomp and aero
foggy lodge
The two lead mons were chipped garchomp was out once tr ended and it was just earthquake into everything
And the last mons were camerupt and torkoal
timber falcon
Maybe i should put ice punch on kang since i struggle with chomp and aero
amazing against aero in tr too. It just helps with so many of those annoying MUs
molten oasis
https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009
Camerupt and torkoal staring down the Garchomp be like
shadow wind
The two lead mons were chipped garchomp was out once tr ended and it was just ea...
So glad we have Garchomp answers
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
Usually Garchomp cooks Ttar drill comps too
molten oasis
So glad we have Garchomp answers
You need answers for the big 4
Garchomp Sneasler Gambit Basc
shadow wind
My goat Kommo o
molten oasis
Incin ain’t popping off that hard lol
timber falcon
ill never forgive gamefreak for giving basc last respects
molten oasis
ITS STILL GOOD but i dont see it a whole bunch
foggy lodge
bold geode
Farig Incin Torkoal stuff so having the move to OHKO it
It's funny cuz like
How is fucking Garchomp bulky enough to stall TR turns 
molten oasis
“Hi guys!” Garchomp probably
dense latch
garchomp's just happy to be there
shadow wind
Garchomp does well into all 3
molten oasis
Eeeehhhhh
foggy lodge
notice they are all gen 9 mons and garchomp
shadow wind
So does Mimikyu
molten oasis
Idk about that for basc
foggy lodge
Garchomp is such a goat
bold geode
Garchomp does well into all 3
Nah Basculegion is a menace
molten oasis
Gambit and Sneasler yes
shadow wind
He eats wave crash
molten oasis
Basc idk, last respects nukes it
bold geode
Fun fact: Last Respects isn't a contact move
bold geode
Whoever just nerd emoted me I hope your pillow has a brick in it
Yeah Garchomp goated
Also surprisingly enough
Chat Kommo-O is actually not mid
molten oasis
It’s very solid
shadow wind
…
bold geode
I still think Clanging Scales sucks LMAO
molten oasis
Idt it’s incredible but it’s definitely good
timber falcon
i used it in the beggining with kang but quit after floette became relevant
shadow wind
I’ve been preaching this guys name for like a week straight
bold geode
It's the best move it got rn though
foggy lodge
i just want throat spray
bold geode
Y'know what blows even more
The fact it don't got Spray
molten oasis
Throat spray enables, what Fari and Prima as well?
foggy lodge
We have to use fucking dragon fang for it to be an actual pokemon
molten oasis
They took away a lot of the cooler items
bold geode
Like the damage from Scales was fuckin depressing with the Spray boost and you gotta play without it? Imma just jump off a cliff
shadow wind
We have to use fucking dragon fang for it to be an actual pokemon
Hey
bold geode
We have to use fucking dragon fang for it to be an actual pokemon
And then you don't have recovery
bold geode
Like deadass the moveset would be complete dogshit if it weren't a lower power format
molten oasis
But seeing a 132 BP spread move is pretty funny
It’ll do less than half to my Delphox as it then explodes to psychic or Psyshock 
bold geode
I always feel so weird calling this format low power
molten oasis
Or you’ll get smacked by a fairy move
bold geode
Like yeah the format with a Fairy Aura Pokemon in it is low power
shadow wind
Hey my Kommo just got me to top 25 I don’t want to hear this Kommo slander
He’s amazing
molten oasis
You’re also a ladder demon
bold geode
The demons the demons the demons
shadow wind
I do actually think Kommo is really good right now though
molten oasis
Like yeah the format with a Fairy Aura Pokemon in it is low power
Well, it’s in the higher end of low power formats
Legendaries put it in the middle power
And then restricted in high, imo at least
timber falcon
speaking of kommo-o
molten oasis
Oh god the pest
foggy lodge
I always feel so weird calling this format low power
Its not really a low power format
bold geode
foggy lodge
This is like reg H
shadow wind
It’s a fake low power format
bold geode
Its not really a low power format
I kinda consider it a low power format for a mega format y'know
molten oasis
Yeah we don’t have metagross or salamence
foggy lodge
It's "low" on a technicality level but the mobs allowed are definetly not "weak"
bold geode
Like there's megas so it's not low power but at the same time Urshifu ain't here SOOOOOOOO
molten oasis
Idt shifu’s even gonna be that bad anymore
shadow wind
Unseen fist nerf 🙏🙏🙏
foggy lodge
The only real low power format SV had was reg A
molten oasis
It’ll be annoying but that’s it
foggy lodge
Everything else was power creep
cyan smelt
OTOT what moves you got on kang
bold geode
Idt shifu’s even gonna be that bad anymore
- Just an example
- Drago
You should know better
molten oasis
???
bold geode
Don't doubt the goats
foggy lodge
Nah shifu still gonna be insane
shadow wind
Always will be
molten oasis
I DIDNT SAY IT WAS GONNA BE BAD
molten oasis
I don’t think it’ll be as stupidly oppressive as before
shadow wind
Surging strikes and wicked blow alone are just stupid
molten oasis
Tera also got taken away from it
foggy lodge
I remember seeing someone who said that there were like 3 types of nerfs
bold geode
Yeah honestly
Thing is I don't see them adding in the paradox Pokemon into natdex anytime soon
molten oasis
I fucking hope not
foggy lodge
Playability
Niche
Killing
cyan smelt
Need rocky helmet back for shifu
molten oasis
I’ll pass on flutter zard y
dense latch
going back to reg i after para and sleep mechanics got changed makes me miss champions a lot
bold geode
So Urshifu doesn't have to deal with Raging Bolt or Flutter Mane probably
And with stuff like Kang threatening CSR more and just other stuff
cyan smelt
How about raging bolt zard y
foggy lodge
Like Talonflame or Mimikyu are niche nerfs cuz they are nerfed them hardly but they still have niche and are useful
bold geode
Honestly I could see Urshifu being more versatile
shadow wind
How about primal Groudon Xerneas
molten oasis
I think, oh how do we threaten shifu in champions 
foggy lodge
Urshifu is only playability cuz the mon is still on sheer power strong as fuck but you can play around it easier than before
cyan smelt
How about primal groudon, xerneas and smeargle
dense latch
How about primal Groudon Xerneas
eh i dont see that ever working, it's not like it dominated in the past or anything
bold geode
Real talk, my Rayquaza experience gonna come in absolute fucking clutch in the restricted format
shadow wind
Yeah wait what was I thinking
molten oasis
This game has given us no fucking grass or electric types
shadow wind
This game has given us no fucking grass or electric types
Mega Venu and meganium????
bold geode
Out the way bitches, I get access to Rayquaza+ Urshifu
dense latch
here's sinistcha and heliolisk enjoy
molten oasis
Mega Venu and meganium????
Dude, that’s 2
cyan smelt
Manectric?
molten oasis
And their megas
molten oasis
Those aren’t as slappable as smth like rilla or amoonguss
shadow wind
Bro just wants Rillaboom back
foggy lodge
Nah but fr we dont have regular grass or electric types
bold geode
This game has given us no fucking grass or electric types
Relax bro we got Simisage
dense latch
wrong fire emoji
molten oasis
Nah but fr we dont have regular grass or electric types
Yuh
Ik we have megas, we don’t have normal ones
foggy lodge
Rotom is okay
molten oasis
We have fucking sini and like, meow for offense
foggy lodge
Venusaur is only playable on sun
bold geode
A guy that's on Meganium that I follow on Twitter used Simipour with it for the GC and I really wanna try the team LOL
molten oasis
Ogerpon would be greatly appreciated
shadow wind
The legendary
molten oasis
When we get them back
bold geode
Simipour actually seems kinda crazy
tiny karmaBOT
molten oasis
Simipour actually seems kinda crazy
foggy lodge
if you want ogerpon i am entitled to want ursa bloodmoon
bold geode
Actually wait 101 speed
molten oasis
if you want ogerpon i am entitled to want ursa bloodmoon
Okay
foggy lodge
give me throat spray blursa atleast
cyan smelt
No thanks I don't want primal groudon and hearthflame
foggy lodge
Yes
molten oasis
No thanks I don't want primal groudon and hearthflame
Primal groudon Hearthflame and xerneas YAAAAY
shadow wind
And scald
tiny karmaBOT
timber falcon
just lost my winstreak to imprison farig
cyan smelt
And flip turn and fake out
molten oasis
However I get zac pogre so I’m not complaining
foggy lodge
WAIT WHY DOES SIMIPOUR GET WATER PLEDGE <:KEKW:904818291724419095>
Fake starter
shadow wind
WAIT WHY DOES SIMIPOUR GET WATER PLEDGE <:KEKW:904818291724419095>
Cause they are starter based
bold geode
However I get zac pogre so I’m not complaining
Pogger?
foggy lodge
The monkeys larp as starters
shadow wind
They have the abilities too
timber falcon
its not possible to get tr up at all in that case is there?
foggy lodge
Thats their whole identity😭
cyan smelt
I thought the pledge moves got removed
shadow wind
Literally
molten oasis
And they’re shit
shadow wind
They did but the bot is outdated
bold geode
Fake starter
Plz tell me Simipour has it in the game rn, that would be really fucking funny
molten oasis
The pledge moves are gone?
shadow wind
It is
molten oasis
Huh
shadow wind
Yup
bold geode
Bro imagine you went in the game and Simipour had access to Water Pledge rn
Fuck Empoleon having it but we're gonna give it to this monkey
molten oasis
Yk, I’m excited for restricteds cuz I get to run zacian with pogre and mega ray
bold geode
Meanwhile there's Simisage which is our off brand Rilla for the moment
shadow wind
Yk, I’m excited for restricteds cuz I get to run zacian with pogre and mega ray
3 Restricteds?
You think they’ll do that
What if they just gave us an ag format
bold geode
Yk, I’m excited for restricteds cuz I get to run zacian with pogre and mega ray
Mega Ray Zacian
Me when I wanna lose to another dog
molten oasis
3 Restricteds?
I meant one or the other
shadow wind
Oh ok
bold geode
Chat when do they add Gholdengo to the game
molten oasis
Mega Ray Zacian
Me when I wanna lose to another dog
It’s mega ray shush
dense latch
i wish they didnt nerf zacian twice
shadow wind
Chat when do they add Gholdengo to the game
Never never never
timber falcon
Chat when do they add Gholdengo to the game
never
dense latch
i feel like the single time intrepid sword boost was enough
molten oasis
i feel like the single time intrepid sword boost was enough
170 would have kept it in up there
shadow wind
i feel like the single time intrepid sword boost was enough
But the double dragon box arts had to do well
molten oasis
But xerneas gets Geomancy
bold geode
i feel like the single time intrepid sword boost was enough
Honestly I feel it's gonna be better now
Actually
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhh
molten oasis
And the bikes exists, god forbit it have 170 attack
bold geode
Yeah it will nvm
molten oasis
Honestly I feel it's gonna be better now
Actually
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhh...
It will, a lot of its weaknesses were things tera’ing out of its fairy and steel weaknesses
bold geode
No tera to play around
Your best partner gets a brand new whip
Xerneas arrives to the function
molten oasis
CIR was a mon that zacian should beat
timber falcon
arent they gonna introduce tera eventually tho
bold geode
Honestly Xerneas alone makes Zacian better
molten oasis
But it didn’t cuz it’s always NOT an ice type
shadow wind
arent they gonna introduce tera eventually tho
Yeah probably
bold geode
arent they gonna introduce tera eventually tho
Yeah but not right away
molten oasis
Honestly Xerneas alone makes Zacian better
Both zac and Yveltal
foggy lodge
But it didn’t cuz it’s always NOT an ice type
Tera fairy tho
molten oasis
Tera fairy tho
That was ONE time
bold geode
Both zac and Yveltal
Me when Yveltal gets deleted by Xern
molten oasis
I never saw that shit again
foggy lodge
I saw it eveywhere
molten oasis
Also, zacian gets primal ogre
molten oasis
My bad
bold geode
Y'know what Drago
Just for that
foggy lodge
Actually Zacian would be kind of insane into CIR Korai if that team didn't play incin lando smeargle lmao
molten oasis
But like, primal ogre covers zacian so well and now shuts off fire moves that’s huge
foggy lodge
They alone check zac so much
bold geode
Put on the shirt of water drink
foggy lodge
Pretty sure the reason the Incin runs flare on that team is actually for zacian
bold geode
Ye olde garment of hydration
molten oasis
Actually Zacian would be kind of insane into CIR Korai if that team didn't play ...
Didn’t help koraidon was often a fire type
I still think zacian’s gonna be much better in a format with no Tera
molten oasis
It threatens every dragon CIR, CSR to an extent cuz it’s paper, pogre, and then xerneas and yveltal
Pogre doesn’t wanna take play rough
foggy lodge
Bulky Scale Shot Soft Sand Garchomp
you just grabbed random bullshit to make the worst chomp set ever
bold geode
you just grabbed random bullshit to make the worst chomp set ever
And yet someone has probably ran it with success
Man my ass stinks
foggy lodge
Press x to doubt
bold geode
See you know things about Scale Shot Garchomp and yet you acted earlier like you didn't
But what about bulky Soft Sand tho
molten oasis
Monke I wouldn’t run bulky soft sand with scale shot
bold geode
Monke I wouldn’t run bulky soft sand with scale shot
Your mom
molten oasis
You’re nerfing your bulk playing scale shot, that sucks
It works on dnite cuz dnite gets multiscale
bold geode
Your dad
molten oasis
bold geode
I think my ass is dying
shadow wind
Just run sand veil lefties with sub on sand
bold geode
I might slow down my Garchomp some
My thing is like
Do I wanna drop like only 5-7 points to outspeed Mega Aero after a speed drop
Or lower it even more and only catch base Aero after a speed drop
bold geode
Just run sand veil lefties with sub on sand
I'm running Sand and still got Rough Skin
You can do some smart bullshit with that combo sometimes
foggy lodge
Im surprises more people dont run sand veil on chomp with tytar
bold geode
There's been times I'll intentionally swap Garchomp into a Sneasler attack just to make them kill themselves
foggy lodge
Rough skin sometimes is a whatever so i dont see it as detrimental to lose rough skin
shadow wind
Im surprises more people dont run sand veil on chomp with tytar
More people prefer drill in Ttar comps
shadow wind
And you don’t run Ttar and drill
bold geode
Bro my ass stinks, eating that bratwurst was a horrible idea
bold geode
More people prefer drill in Ttar comps
Mega Excadrill makes me sad
shadow wind
Me too
foggy lodge
I was told Mega Exca as a secondary mega with Tytar was gonna be insane #getfuckednerd
molten oasis
Until we found out mega drill’s mid
shadow wind
Now I think I’m done
Just wanted to get a little higher before calling it
My goat and best friend Kommo carried
cyan smelt
Why did they play so badly
foggy lodge
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2601093762
Passho berry volc is so clutch
shadow wind
Why did they play so badly
Nerves potentially
If I see I’m playing someone with 1800 elo and I’m in the 1600s I get a bit nervous
shadow wind
Passho berry volc is so clutch
No literally
Oh also Maxi I’m doing a ladder tour with the team
And if I qualify then I go into a bigger tournament
So this will be my competition test with the team
Even though I can change the team a million times on the ladder
shadow wind
It really does
I have a week to see how high on the ladder I can end up
So I’ll probably procrastinate for like 4 days then spam 200 games in a day
Usually how I roll
Never played in a ladder tour though
Kinda interested in how they work
last yarrow
Am curious, what exactly should I invest most of my stats into on tyranitar? Been wanting to try working on a sandstorm team but I dunno if I should invest in bulk/attack or speed
shadow wind
I run max attack adamant then just enough speed to outspeed jolly 32 Kingambit then the rest in hp
But also it depends on if you have TW or not
Or if you have tr
He’s pretty fat though so you can get away with some speed
last yarrow
Alrighty, ty. Still fairly new to making teams & stat spreads beyond max attack/speed so I appreciate the advice ^_^
jade dust
So we were wrong about mega Scovillain lol
Maybe Game Freak was trying to protect us by giving it a terrible stat distribution
shadow wind
Yeah pretty much
I’ve never struggled too much with him but my team can manage it pretty well
jade dust
I’ve never struggled too much with him but my team can manage it pretty well
I have won most of my games but they take forever
25 turns or more
molten oasis
I think scovillain is good because this is a very physically heavy metagame
I genuinely think that mon isn’t that good otherwise
shadow wind
Agreed
molten oasis
It’s in a good set of conditions for it to do well
shadow wind
And like one strong special attacker kinda cooks it
jade dust
I genuinely think that mon isn’t that good otherwise
It still has a broken ability
shadow wind
Like Kommo just does too much
jade dust
It’s goon into Floette
molten oasis
Goon
molten oasis
It still has a broken ability
Broken ability doesn’t make a mon
molten oasis
You can be super broken but if the movepool stats and typing don’t make up for it then it’s not enough
Oh abilities are super important I’m not saying they aren’t
But for a mon to truly work well it needs all 4 things to work well
jade dust
Well for example Weezing
molten oasis
Or be in the right conditions, as we’re seeing with aerodactyl and scovillain
jade dust
Bad on everything except ability
molten oasis
Actually weezing has respectable bulk and a good supportive movepool
tiny karmaBOT
molten oasis
The special bulk ain’t great but you kinda just, invest into that
And you’re shutting off a lot of power special attackers tend to get from their abilities
jade dust
Yeah I agree in most cases you need all stats, ability, movepool and typing to be good but some are hard carried by one thing
shadow wind
It also gets utils like wisp
molten oasis
I think Tatsu is a better case of this
jade dust
Yeah
molten oasis
Commander is a stupid ability but it’s also, like, only for dozo
Tatsu sucks otherwise
lunar night
bonne soir
jade dust
Clefary is also a good example
molten oasis
Weeeeellll
jade dust
Terrible stats but good ability
tiny karmaBOT
molten oasis
Ok that one yea
strange fjord
Smeargle is hard carried by its movepool
jade dust
The rest of its movepool isn’t impressive
molten oasis
Smeargle is hard carried by its movepool
True
lunar night
Smeargle is hard carried by its movepool
i would say it’s main use were Spore, Follow Me, and sometimes Decorate
molten oasis
Smeargle’s entire identity is sketch and moody
jade dust
The reason to use it
lunar night
Yeah but I don’t think it’s bulk is better than Clafable
do ppl use Clefable though
tiny karmaBOT
lunar night
i’ve never seen one used against me
strange fjord
i would say it’s main use were Spore, Follow Me, and sometimes Decorate
you can also run fake out and wide guard
jade dust
do ppl use Clefable though
Yes when setup sweepers are common
molten oasis
I think clefairy’s bulkier with eviolite lol
jade dust
Cuz follow me unaware
molten oasis
I THINK, I wanna look at a calc rq
lunar night
what’s a prominent setup sweeper
it slipped my mind i can’t think of one
shadow wind
Pizza did any of my recent games get uploaded to munchteams
jade dust
what’s a prominent setup sweeper
Dozo in reg H
lunar night
Dozo in reg H
oh the trauma
molten oasis
Yeah ok clefable’s bulkier
lunar night
Dozo in reg H
i rmbr i used Topsy Turvy Malamar on it once
shadow wind
Yeah ok clefable’s bulkier
No friend guard though
jade dust
Yeah ok clefable’s bulkier
So yeah friend guard it’s the only reason to it. More specifically in restricted formats cuz spread moves are more common
molten oasis
what’s a prominent setup sweeper
Gholdengo Kingambit Annihilape Raging Bolt Fluttermane CSR
What format?
jade dust
Without spread moves Clefable is better
molten oasis
If you’re talking champions, Floette’s probably the big one
lunar night
If you’re talking champions, Floette’s probably the big one
i’ve encountered quite a lot of substitute Primarina’s
molten oasis
So yeah friend guard it’s the only reason to it. More specifically in restricted...
True
Sub phox is also a thing
strange fjord
Pizza did any of my recent games get uploaded to munchteams
how recent was this
cyan smelt
Mega froslass likes to click the nasty plot sometimes
molten oasis
Clef is carried by ability, but in general the mon needs all 4 things to work
shadow wind
how recent was this
Over the past like 2 days ish
molten oasis
I think lando t fell off because it’s movepool is, kinda shit
lunar night
Mega froslass likes to click the nasty plot sometimes
most of the ones i see opt for Aurora Veil instead
strange fjord
if its public the yes
lunar night
Froslass is kinda just there for a few turns then dies, unless you have a dragon
shadow wind
Problem is no one plays with spectators on
jade dust
Also Clefable is bulkier cuz it can hold a sitrus berry while Clefairy is locked into evolite
molten oasis
Lass is good tho
lunar night
has anyone run a successful Mega Clefable team
molten oasis
I just don’t think it’s been fully figured out
Could also be the wrong conditions for it
molten oasis
has anyone run a successful Mega Clefable team
No mega clef is kinda bad
strange fjord
Problem is no one plays with spectators on
What I got when I searched ya
molten oasis
Most of the megas got completely shafted
lunar night
Lass is good tho
not denying it’s good though, it’s just that it dies in less than three turns, doing quite a bit of damage while alive
lunar night
Most of the megas got completely shafted
Mega Meowstic
shadow wind
Not a single 1700 replay 😔
lunar night
Mega Meowstic
they made it a worse Mega Alakazam omg
shadow wind
I’m fraudulent
strange fjord
I’m fraudulent
nah, to be fair, it takes the lowest elo from both players
molten oasis
Meowstic, Chimecho, Skarmory, Drampa
lunar night
Meowstic, Chimecho, Skarmory, Drampa
no Chimecho was ok
strange fjord
so youre like at 1800+ but the other guy isnt even 1700
molten oasis
No it’s not Chimecho is ass
shadow wind
nah, to be fair, it takes the lowest elo from both players
I always found that dumb
Although I did have a technically 1840 game earlier
But obviously they didn’t have spectators on
molten oasis
You want a levitating mega special attacker you play Delphox
lunar night
No it’s not Chimecho is ass
i mean it’s stats pre mega we’re already bad idk what you could do with it even if it got liquid voice but steel
jade dust
Also how should I train Kingambit? Max attack and HP or train some def and sp def?
molten oasis
Also how should I train Kingambit? Max attack and HP or train some def and sp de...
What do you want it to do?
jade dust
Kill Basculeigon
tiny karmaBOT
molten oasis
Kill Basculeigon
Max attack adamant with black glasses
jade dust
And help against floette mirror
shadow wind
The pain of people not playing with spectators on
But it’s ok cause I’ll just share the replays here anyway
jade dust
If it was faster MAYBE it could be okay
Or slower to be a trick room sweeper
molten oasis
True
lunar night
If it was faster MAYBE it could be okay
seems like a good TRoom mon if it wasn’t for Zard Y or Delphox killing it before setup
molten oasis
But it got locked out of expanding force sooo
jade dust
Yeah why keep levitate
molten oasis
Tr sweepers want spread attacks, it doesn’t get any
lunar night
Tr sweepers want spread attacks, it doesn’t get any
Boomburst ig?
run it with Copycat Sylveon so it steals the limelight
shadow wind
Pizza
molten oasis
Stab, spread
jade dust
Chimeko deserved a new ability that made sound moves steel type
shadow wind
😔
molten oasis
Drampa should have gotten fucking drizzle!
I’m pissed it didn’t that was a mega I was looking forward to trying
lunar night
Chimeko deserved a new ability that made sound moves steel type
but the company has favs so why not make them the best bcs who cares abt the rest!
shadow wind
Cause those games are forced to be public right?
molten oasis
I’m worried about golispod or bax getting shafted
jade dust
Drampa should have gotten fucking drizzle!
Or anything else besides berserk
molten oasis
If golispod gets tactical retreat I’m gonna cry
jade dust
If golispod gets tactical retreat I’m gonna cry
Nah it gets defeatist
shadow wind
But he’s retreating tactically
lunar night
If golispod gets tactical retreat I’m gonna cry
golisopod when faced by a strong fire type special attacker
molten oasis
Nah it gets defeatist
shadow wind
Not exiting in an emergency
molten oasis
golisopod when faced by a strong fire type special attacker
That’s ONE weakness
jade dust
To combo with emergency exit
shadow wind
Give it water bubble
molten oasis
A 4x weakness doesn’t ruin a mon
lunar night
Give it water bubble
Heatproof
molten oasis
We’ve learned this lesson so many times
shadow wind
Or steelworker
lunar night
A 4x weakness doesn’t ruin a mon
true, but Zard Y and Delphine’s are everywhere
shadow wind
Tinted lens
molten oasis
DELPHINES
shadow wind
Does anyone remember when decay starts
molten oasis
My Delphox will now be Delphine that’s fckn funny
shadow wind
Is it 1400?
molten oasis
Anyway, yeah true
Uhm, yeah I just hope we get good megas next round
I’m really curious if any of the new megas will get terrains
lunar night
I’m really curious if any of the new megas will get terrains
how do we salvage Mega Malamar
molten oasis
If for some fucking reason they pull the trigger on setting tr as it enters the field
lunar night
wow he’s so cool
lunar night
If for some fucking reason they pull the trigger on setting tr as it enters the ...
imo contrary would do well if they give it new moves
molten oasis
Eeeeehhhhh
lunar night
wait what moves can it get
molten oasis
It’s stats are so bad idt contrary’s saving it
tiny karmaBOT
lunar night
what will he get i wonder
molten oasis
They’re so fckn bad
lunar night
wow it’s so ass
molten oasis
what will he get i wonder
Sharpness
molten oasis
Yup.
molten oasis
Tho idk what it’s gonna get, not that I care mega Garchomps are both shit
lunar night
will this be the more glamorous Toxapex
highest Sp Def of all Megas but what can it do
tiny karmaBOT
molten oasis
If it keeps adaptability it might be solid
lunar night
If it keeps adaptability it might be solid
Mega Glim is perfect
do we need another Poison type Adaptability user
lunar night
If it keeps adaptability it might be solid
also do you want the animated model for mega delphox
molten oasis
Eh I’m alright
lunar night
Eh I’m alright
kk
shadow wind
Oh my god guys I’m 7-0 right now I’m literally shaking !!!
Ladder tour got me hyped
I’m not actually shaking and 7-0 should be free
timber falcon
whats ladder tour
shadow wind
Honestly those games were sketch though
shadow wind
whats ladder tour
Pretty much it’s a tournament of elo
You sign up using an alt and you have a week to end with the highest elo
timber falcon
oh dang
shadow wind
Top 8 move on to a bigger top cut
You could play in it if you want
It’s a smogon thing
timber falcon
maybe one day in the future
timber falcon
is the regulation champions doubles?
shadow wind
Yup
This was last weeks
And like I said top 8 qualify for a bigger top cut
Where it’s then bo3 ots
I think they’re just fun little things an I’m laddering anyway so might as well
Also them being 100% on showdown is a life saver for me right now
timber falcon
wish ya luck
timber falcon
anything to prevent tr
shadow wind
Jeez
cyan smelt
i'm wondering if i replace a9 on my team with farig because a9 has been pretty underwhelming
and what moves do i run on kang because i want to deal with the zards, chomps and aeros
i'm thinking rock slide, ice punch, double edge, fake out
timber falcon
whats the full 6?
cyan smelt
currently gliscor, gambit, sneasler, mega kang, a9, skeledirge, i struggle with rotom, scizor and sneasler/aero/chomp/zard and basc the most
timber falcon
how do ya struggle with sciscor when dirge is right there tho
cyan smelt
because it buddies up with rotom wash usually
timber falcon
a9 is arcanine? Sorry not great with the terms
cyan smelt
alolan ninetales, and i just realised i need low kick on kang for sand
timber falcon
alolan ninetales, and i just realised i need low kick on kang for sand
and to not be walled by gambit
timber falcon
whats ur current speed control?
cyan smelt
tw gliscor
timber falcon
i think tr fits your teams speed much better
cyan smelt
do i replace a9 with farig then?
timber falcon
i would ofc
cyan smelt
and you're right, mega kang is better on tr
timber falcon
cant hurt just to try
cyan smelt
dunno what i'm gonna do against arch sableye or farig blastoise though
timber falcon
god i hate them MUs
my plan so far has been to FO sabeleye, get tr and use a spatacker to chip arch
cyan smelt
with farig i can fake out sableye then maybe low kick the hell out of arch idk
timber falcon
kang with mega tho just gives it 2x stamina boost
cyan smelt
maybe farig and sneasler and just close combat the hell out of it
a9 has been pretty underwhelming tbh
what moves do i run on farig, do i run the imprison set?
cyan smelt
blastoise farig stresses me out the most
shadow wind
I get stressed out by chomp Zard y and aero
cyan smelt
that one is tough too
i'm hoping ice punch on kang makes that a little less stressful
cyan smelt
zard chomp tw + basc is nightmare fuel
shadow wind
Good start to the account I’d say
Almost lost the last game I played but Corv clutched
So happy I brought that guy into a Zard team
cyan smelt
i was just thinking that tr does help me with scarf chomp and scarf rotom
shadow wind
Sure would
cyan smelt
as well as basc which is fast
shadow wind
Mhm
cyan smelt
do i run the imprison set, it might be funny so they can't protect against fake out
might be really good so they can't stall tr turns too
https://pokepast.es/7fda700e37269194 how's this, not sure about EVs or anything, will test on an alt and modify evs based on what I'm dying to
shadow wind
I was about to question the alt but I have no room to talk cause I’m currently laddering on an alt
Although I guess I needed to use an alt
Usually I don’t use alts anymore
Recently I’ve enjoyed being “ConnerTEP” while laddering
cyan smelt
Just need to use an alt for pasrs
shadow wind
I mean you don’t have to
If anything making a new alt skews your PASRS results
Cause you’re playing against weaker players
cyan smelt
i already have pasrs filled out on my main
shadow wind
You can have multiple PASRS for one account
cyan smelt
i guess i should trial this new team on my main then
shadow wind
I think it’ll give you better results
cyan smelt
low ladder is weird
shadow wind
Low ladder is extremely weird
Having to go from low ladder again for this ladder tour is reminding me why I like high ladder
cyan smelt
idk how i'm gonna play against this sableye, arch, sinistcha team
shadow wind
Ttar in a bo1 cts environment is heart attack simulator
shadow wind
idk how i'm gonna play against this sableye, arch, sinistcha team
Any special attackers?
cyan smelt
only skeledirge, not great in rain
shadow wind
I wonder how much hex does
shadow wind
Curse would be cool
cyan smelt
curse and slack off and just keep firing off curses in tr
curse against mega blastoise would be fire actually
shadow wind
That’s funny
cyan smelt
bulky meta so who knows it could work
at least forces a switch so i got an opportunity to slack off
stops arch from snowballing too
i'd have to forgoe will-o-wisp though
but if i see a gambit i'm def not bringing the croc
cyan smelt
idk whether to run hex will o wisp or curse slack off
curse slack off would be super funny
shadow wind
It would be
cyan smelt
if i fail with it at least i fail gloriously
could even replace gliscor with sinistcha for extra healing
fuck it we ball, curse slack off it is
waittttt, this gave me an idea for a different team as well, curse + stealth rocks + roar
what if i put stealth rocks on gliscor and roar on farig
shadow wind
Why not just use Kleavor
cyan smelt
replace gliscor with kleavor sure why not
cyan smelt
sharpness boosted stone axe
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
Like he’s fairly frail but also his stats are pretty great for 500 BST
cyan smelt
roar farig + stone axe kleavor 🔥
- curse skeledirge
what item does kleavor want, i'm thinking babiri?
or scarf maybe
cyan smelt
i'm gonna run calcs
cyan smelt
what ev spreads are basc running
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
what ev spreads are basc running
Not a clue never used the guy
shadow wind
I wish you luck
cyan smelt
wait, what if i run toxic spikes on sneasler too, or is that overcooking it
i think that's overcooking it
i got outplayed in my first game
i lost my first two games
lost my first 3 this ain't working
i won one
wintry valley
How long do results take to calculate for the GC?
cyan smelt
this team ain't going well
cyan smelt
this team is horrible bro
i won't go roar but i will put protect back on farig
i might try wow and hex
on skele
dry nexus
a very situational BS but I'm glad I gave altaria perish now
cyan smelt
kleavor is bad on this team, i need something else for opposing weather and arch
cyan smelt
i'm struggling hard
need to replace Kleavor i think
wondering if i bring back gliscor
i'm gonna do it
shadow wind
Took 2 absolutely stupid losses against rain
But a 78 GXE is something I’m pretty happy with
cyan smelt
rotom is a very annoying pokemon
cyan smelt
rotom heat though
shadow wind
Rock slide 🔥🔥🔥
cyan smelt
ig ttar wouldn't have a problem with rotom heat
shadow wind
Rotom mow is where it gets hard
cyan smelt
don't think i've seen one
shadow wind
But then I just click clanging scales twice and everything on the field goes away
W 132 BP spread move
Too bad it’s off of 100 base spatk 😭😭😭
cyan smelt
i think farig is good on this team but idk what for a 6th, i'm doing gliscor for now but we'll see
shadow wind
Isn’t Gliscor just like really bad right now
shadow wind
Doesn’t Garchomp just do that better?
shadow wind
I wonder if for this ladder tour I just play as many games as I can
And shoot up early then coast
It’s not a bad idea but not sure if it’s the best idea
cyan smelt
All the water types in this meta are annoying
shadow wind
And realistically in like 4 days you don’t decay that much
And if I have to play more games I always can I guess
shadow wind
All the water types in this meta are annoying
Word
Especially paldean tauros
So far there’s only 24 people participating in the ladder tour
cyan smelt
I don't think I've seen paldean tauros
shadow wind
I’ve seen both formes
Well I guess the Fire and Water ones
Honestly they’re really solid mons
Their stats are min maxed
Both have probably the best stab moves available
cyan smelt
I'm scared of them, idk how my team would handle them
tiny karmaBOT
tiny karmaBOT
cyan smelt
Scared of tauros
cyan smelt
Can they ohko arch
shadow wind
Uh
Nah I doubt it
I think 110 attack is just too low
Adamant probably would though
32 Atk Tauros-Paldea-Blaze Close Combat vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Archaludon: 150-176 (89.8 - 105.3%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Yeah it’s just not enough
cyan smelt
You know what i should add to my team instead of gliscor, meganium, it might help me against rain
shadow wind
32 Atk Black Belt Tauros-Paldea-Blaze Close Combat vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Archaludon: 176-210 (105.3 - 125.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Black belt tauros 🔥🔥🔥
144 BP close combat
Technically adamant does outspeed arch
clever root
So I am noticing a major weakness to mitotic and corv, and dnite usually isnt coming to most games now too
I may also swap sneaslers item to sash
shadow wind
Sounds like you need an electric type Mon
clever root
the lawnmower is speaking to me
shadow wind
Very solid
Not entirely sure what set though
Probably scarf considering your Dnite was your speed control
clever root
yeah that makes the most sense
electroweb, vswitch, thunderbolt and leaf storm probs
shadow wind
Sounds good to me
Could slot wisp or trick in there if you wanted to be kinda techy with it but also there’s nothing wrong with the normal set
It’s definitely more consistent that’s for sure
clever root
it would be really funny to trick milotics and corvs into setup
hell I could get even more funky with it, and get a Heliolisk so I can shed tail shenanigans LMAO
shadow wind
Also an option
shadow wind
Played one more to get a clean 30 games
My last game I played against a Corv that was unironically 32 hp 32 spdef and careful
It took 80 from a fully invested meganium weather ball
And then my Ttar took 5% more than my meganium from a mega Gardevoir hyper voice
Crazy things happened that game
bold geode
My last game I played against a Corv that was unironically 32 hp 32 spdef and ca...
Unironically kinda gas
shadow wind
Bros gonna take 60 from a Sneasler cc
Not gas at all
Bro wanted to kill me and me only
Well maybe maxi too
But then he died to brave bird recoil anyway
bold geode
shadow wind
I mean I also had Volc in the back so it was wraps anyway
But I will not complain about 26-4
That is a W record in my books
leaden portal
Playing against someone named YahuStein and I should've known I advance this dude would've had the worst possible playstyle
clever root
What do we even think the best co mega is for mega glimm?
Deffo got be smth that is immune to ground
timber falcon
charizard is immune to ground
clever root
charizard smells
keen quiver
as much i love Charizard Y
why is the playerbase so Fucking ASS WHEN USING IT????
clever root
its why I am still tryna make skarm work, as it feels like it literally bounces off all of skarms weaknesses
except water
atm the mons that feel stupid good together is clef, skarm and glimm
solid frigate
What do we even think the best co mega is for mega glimm?
Mega Phox
If you hate Zard and want a fire type
stuck perch
Played one more to get a clean 30 games
Y'all putting B2A wish I cud do the same
shadow wind
Y'all putting B2A wish I cud do the same
With enough accounts anyone can do it
clever root
And they also both suffer vs garchomp
shadow wind
If the chomp has rock slide
clever root
Most do
shadow wind
True
Glimmora definitely wants a second mega though
Something like meganium might be nice
Resists ground and water while also being able to hit steel types
clever root
Meganium is nice
stuck perch
With enough accounts anyone can do it
Sounds like cheating and taking the easy way out
shadow wind
Eh
I mean alts are a good thing to have
And actually I needed to make that one for the ladder tournament
But some people make copious amounts of alts to try and get a better looking account
But I mean who cares what others do
If they have the skill to go 30-0 on their 15th try that’s still mad impressive
lunar night
Mega Glim is only good in like niche situations
lunar night
biggest concern is that both glimm and delphox suffer vs gambit
gambit just one shots my gardevoir with iron head like i get it’s frail but i didn’t expect it to be that frail
like if gambit had access to an assault vest i get walled by it since my team is near mono fairy and weak to dark
polar canyon
I need to apologize to mega scovillain
It's not particularly outstanding but not as bad as I thought
lunar night
I need to apologize to mega scovillain
it’s so annoying like it exists not even to be good it just stalls while other pokemon do the work
its defenses are so bad but it just doesn’t die
polar canyon
Except when it gets one shot
lunar night
Except when it gets one shot
by a strong poison type user
or rock slide
it dies to Glimmora but i can’t seem to be able to make a good glimmora team
polar canyon
Man I wonder if there's any popular poison type attacker being used commonly rn
lunar night
Man I wonder if there's any popular poison type attacker being used commonly rn
no i detest it so much it will never earn a spot on my team
polar canyon
Or any flying types with 100% accurate hurricanes
lunar night
Or any flying types with 100% accurate hurricanes
ugly things
i prioritize pretty pokemon
this is the team that allows me many victories
polar canyon
Neither of those actually ko the right scov build tho but leaving it with a sliver of health is valuable
lunar night
Neither of those actually ko the right scov build tho but leaving it with a sliv...
leech seed and protect gets it quite a bit of health back
lunar night
this is the team that allows me many victories
Psyshock does stupid damage
like i one shot zard y
polar canyon
3 mega team is crazy
lunar night
3 mega team is crazy
#youngho
but it’s jus gambling really
look at my quick claw primarina
lunar night
Why do that
#gambling
lunar night
What lack of throat spray does to a pokemon player
yes that too
also bcs prim almost always comes into clutch with quick claw
oh no i’m at 1 hp but ur Garchomp is at 95? get Moonblasted
then i win
lunar night
oooh
chrome knot
no i detest it so much it will never earn a spot on my team
when i hate winning:
lunar night
when i hate winning:
i’ve won with triple mega so many times and i’ve killed that ugly weasel time and time again
chrome knot
ill never understand the handicapping of players vs “i hate this pokemon so i wont use it ever in my life”
lunar night
ill never understand the handicapping of players vs “i hate this pokemon so i wo...
why be the player you hate
chrome knot
why intentionally shoot yourself in the foot
lunar night
it’s a personal preference and it’s honestly refreshing to win with ‘anti-meta’ teams
chrome knot
lmao
lunar night
like i personally go out of my way to avoid ‘meta’ pokemon to win by myself
molten oasis
cough
shadow wind
I mean I know personally I just don’t like how certain mons play
chrome knot
i can’t wait to click astral barrage again
lunar night
i’ve swapped into fari just to block fake outs and kill that weasel
shadow wind
Like Urshifu
molten oasis
Cant wait for zacian to be able to do smth lol
lunar night
i can’t wait to click astral barrage again
k but i will use Calyrex bcs my team is almost reliant on looks
shadow wind
Never really liked the whole ho stuff
lunar night
what stuff
shadow wind
Which is probably why I stay away from Sneasler as well
molten oasis
Hyper offense stuff
shadow wind
what stuff
TW Kablammy everything die right now because I’m hitting you
lunar night
i was the Magearna user
lunar night
TW Kablammy everything die right now because I’m hitting you
ah
shadow wind
I like my bulky mons
chrome knot
Cant wait for zacian to be able to do smth lol
zamazenta when the opponent can’t turn into a ghost type☺️
molten oasis
Yeah lol
lunar night
I like my bulky mons
all my mons are glass cannons physically
chrome knot
give me primal kyogre zamazenta please my life is urs