#competitive_discussion

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timber falcon
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but t100 is amazing

shadow wind
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Eh my GXE is absolutely cooked on this account

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I’m honestly not too hurt about it

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I’m just happy I hit 1800

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Mega meganium lowkey carried my final game too

timber falcon
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meganium sand or rain?

shadow wind
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Sand

foggy lodge
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insane

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Have you ever hit 1800 before?

shadow wind
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Yeah once in Reg H1

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With Ttar drill Corv 😭😭

foggy lodge
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LMAO

shadow wind
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What can I say

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I like my sand

foggy lodge
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You have to ladder on champions you are ladder demon

shadow wind
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I would if I could

foggy lodge
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Ah yeah i forgot

shadow wind
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Maybe I’ll see if there’s an internet cafe I can chill at one day

timber falcon
shadow wind
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For the greater good

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Excadrill also got exploded

timber falcon
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with the burn too

shadow wind
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But meganium beat literally everything but the harc

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That solar beam does damage

timber falcon
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thinking about it

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are teams like that normal so high up the ladder?

shadow wind
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Nah

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Honestly when I saw I got matched into a Manectric I started rejoicing

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Usually they’re all Zards and floettes and Sneaslers and chomps

timber falcon
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meganium genuinely runs through most of that team alone wow

shadow wind
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I haven’t played a single sand mirror

foggy lodge
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Shoutout to Volc for letting us not have an instalose to Sneasler Bascu Gambit

timber falcon
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what does volc do for the team?

foggy lodge
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Redirection tw support and its good into floette and other megas

shadow wind
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Redirection for the fighting and fairies

foggy lodge
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Its also cool to have it into Froslass

shadow wind
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Yeah real

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Struggle bug is honestly pretty mid in this meta but whatever

timber falcon
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and corv is a wall + tw?

forest arrow
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Rock slide says hello

shadow wind
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Corv doesn’t have TW, just a Garchomp aero mu fixer

foggy lodge
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We had Maushold before but even with chople it just lost to Sneasler Gambit anyways and both of our megas are giga weak to Sneasler so we went for volc because with investment it can live stuff from the triangle of this format

timber falcon
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oh you both made this?

shadow wind
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It lives an adamant rock slide from chomp

foggy lodge
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Yeah

timber falcon
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looks real cool

shadow wind
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And it has a 75% chance to live a 32 jolly aero rock slide

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I wonder if wisp is better than struggle bug

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Nah

foggy lodge
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Maybe

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It went over my head that Volc is faster than Arcanine lmao

shadow wind
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Volc is honestly the goat

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shadow wind
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Has more hp than Kommo 🥀🥀🥀

foggy lodge
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And spa

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And speed

shadow wind
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And speed…

foggy lodge
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And probably more spdef

shadow wind
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And spdef??

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shadow wind
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Nah same

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They have the same effective bst

foggy lodge
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only if it had throat spray man

shadow wind
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That’s funny

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490 BST warriors

foggy lodge
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lol

shadow wind
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Not like Ttar

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My wonderful king

foggy lodge
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Nah Tytar is a monster

shadow wind
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God I love Ttar

foggy lodge
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How tf do you kill Aegislash through shield form😭

shadow wind
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By being frickin awesome

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We have 2 mons that do that…

forest arrow
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Do yall not have overheat on Volc

shadow wind
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Nah heatwave

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The fire move is pretty whatever

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Just something and I like disregarding redirection

forest arrow
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yeah either way still good damage into it

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Ttar is also SE into it

shadow wind
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That Volc can live 2 spell tag poltergeists also

forest arrow
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Wait drill too, yall have plenty for it lol

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And weatherball

shadow wind
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Honestly Aegislash is 0 problem

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Basc is probably the biggest threat?

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But both megas “can” kill it

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I kinda wish we had some prio but sand breaks sashes anyway

forest arrow
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Yeah basc is that guy

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I think it beats everything not gambit lmao

shadow wind
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Heliolisk 🤓

forest arrow
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trueeee

shadow wind
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But yeah the team is flames

forest arrow
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Looks good

shadow wind
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I’m happy with how it turned out

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Went through 4 variations?

forest arrow
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Meganium sand rocks

shadow wind
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Big ones anyway

foggy lodge
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Uhhh

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We had the arcanine version

shadow wind
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Sneak peak into the builder

foggy lodge
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Oh yeah delphox

shadow wind
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I’m so sorry Ttar for ever removing you 🤧🤧

foggy lodge
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Delphox lasted like 20 minuted and we went to Tytar

shadow wind
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God Delphox sucked

forest arrow
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Don’t let Drago see that

molten oasis
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Delphox Ttar is too clunky to function well

shadow wind
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It’s funny seeing the progression of fire types

forest arrow
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Lmao right as I say that

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Can’t make it up

shadow wind
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The fire type and redirection evolution the team had might need to be studied

molten oasis
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I think Delphox needs to be in its mega too often for you to really use it next to Ttar

forest arrow
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Anyways monke was convincing me on Meganium

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So idk, I’ve been in a loop

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Was playing scovillan and he’s actually pretty funny

shadow wind
molten oasis
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If you go a double mega route, which I did, and otherwise you just suck absolute ass into basc and gambit

shadow wind
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I’m perfectly fine leaving the meganium at home

foggy lodge
molten oasis
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Ik he means with Ttar not in general

shadow wind
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🙏🙏

molten oasis
shadow wind
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I’m just happy I got to not use Sneasler Basc or gambit

molten oasis
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I feel like not bringing phox was detrimental

shadow wind
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Pretty much

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It’s too important to the team

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134 speed does that to a mega

molten oasis
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Yuh

foggy lodge
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Tytar is also cool cuz he is just that guy and we can bring it next to Meganium and just mega meganium

shadow wind
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Ttar is such a guy

molten oasis
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Ttar’s really cool

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Probably the only other mega I had even a remote amount of success with

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Didn’t like Gengar, haven’t tried lass, and I don’t wanna play floette or zard

foggy lodge
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I had a super weird endgame the other day where I had Meganium Tytar in front of Chari Y Venu and I had to Mega Tytar instead of Meganium

shadow wind
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And drill is my favourite steel type of all time

foggy lodge
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And Meganium lived a sludge bomb from Venusaur cuz i didn't mega lmao

shadow wind
forest arrow
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Ttar is prob my fav suedo

shadow wind
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Usually bringing meganium and not mega’ing it means you brought 3 mons

foggy lodge
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Yeah

shadow wind
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So you gotta be smart on when you bring it in weather wars

foggy lodge
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83 spa🥀

shadow wind
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Cause that Dgleam hits for like 20% on Garchomp 😭😭😭

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And not stab

foggy lodge
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And you dont have solar beam no stab dazzling and stuck using rock weather ball

shadow wind
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And you even have weaker solar beam

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foggy lodge
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60 BP solar beam hell nah

shadow wind
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60 BP Solar beam 🥀

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That’s why Ttar eats those from Zard y

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In sand anyway

cyan smelt
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Maybe I'm struggling because everyone prepared for sneasler, gambit and basc

molten oasis
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Doesn’t Meganium ignore other weather properties?

shadow wind
shadow wind
forest arrow
molten oasis
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Ok I thought so

shadow wind
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But if you mega Ttar gg

forest arrow
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they’re talking non mega

foggy lodge
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It ignores the sand boost LMAO

molten oasis
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Was gonna say isn’t it shit in fucking sand then lol

foggy lodge
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It one shots opposing Tytars

bold geode
molten oasis
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Wait that’s fire

shadow wind
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Yeah

cyan smelt
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I mean in gc there have been rotoms and scizors everywhere

shadow wind
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Still haven’t seen a single other Ttar

foggy lodge
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Ive seen a few

molten oasis
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There was a good time I was playing Meganium with phox

forest arrow
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Joe ugartes team should be popular

molten oasis
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I just don’t think phox is a double mega Mon right now

shadow wind
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Nah I don’t think so either

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And if it is the other mega is crab

molten oasis
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Lmfao

shadow wind
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Just have 2 completely different modes

molten oasis
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I mean I guess, I think it’s not that atmosphere for it

shadow wind
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Nah me neither

molten oasis
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Phox has a lot of good mu’s

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And too little to leave behind

shadow wind
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Yup

molten oasis
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Not that it doesn’t have bad mu’s Milo and basc are fucking annoying

shadow wind
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Which is why meganium is my fire type mega of choice

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My favourite fairy fire type ❤️

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Nah honestly it’s more a grass fire type than anything

foggy lodge
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Fairy fire until it gets hit by weather ball from chari Y

shadow wind
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Gulp

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Nah but the grass type makes it better I swear

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Garchomp mu 🤓

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Honestly I think it’s typing is actually huge on a Ttar team

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Cause Ttar drill get dumpstered by chomp

timber falcon
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oh my god

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wiped by stockpile lax

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wonderful

cyan smelt
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I'm still struggling against sneasler teams and I think it's because of the teammates like scizor, rotom/basc

shadow wind
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Bro just said he’s struggling against the most used mon

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Ggs

cyan smelt
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I said it's because of the teammates

loud bramble
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Aerodactyl + a priority negation mon like tsarenaa or the giraffe works wonders

cyan smelt
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Idk how that'll go when the teammates are basc, scizor or rotom wash

loud bramble
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It mostly depends on the rest of the team, i personally run scarf rena and so far she has deal with the washing machine well. Then i just have zard and kanga in the back to deal with scizor and basculegion

cyan smelt
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Maybe my team is too slow, it's a9, gliscor, gambit, sneasler, skeledirge, mega kang

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Still don't understand how that non scarf hisuian samurott outsped gliscor, must have been max speed

loud bramble
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I think you could maybe swap gliscor for giraffe and go for a trickroom mega kanga with hammer hand team

cyan smelt
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With sneasler being the only fast mon?

sudden remnant
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did i just hear that watchog made day 2 at a tournament

cyan smelt
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What does watchog do

sudden remnant
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analytic ice punch i guess

loud bramble
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Analytic crunch ice punch and fighting move + hypnosis

sudden remnant
loud bramble
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Basically lives hits from basculegion garchomp and kingambit and can trade into them

cyan smelt
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Well I've learnt to not dismiss any pokemon

loud bramble
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Its not a oneshot on legion tho

sudden remnant
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thats so cool though

cyan smelt
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I think conner was experimenting with watchog

sudden remnant
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this is why i like lower formats cuz who would ever think to use mons liek watchog

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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Yeah

sudden remnant
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hell yeah

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chat is there a way i can see what mons all get entrainment in champions

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is there a forum for that yet

cyan smelt
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Can't you just type it in the showdown chat

sudden remnant
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what

cyan smelt
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Like isn't there a way in showdown to see a list of every mon that can learn a move

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Wait, just type entrainment in the builder

sudden remnant
loud bramble
sudden remnant
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Lopunny gets it

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interesting.....

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entrainment scrappy

loud bramble
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On what would you use it tho?

cyan smelt
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Skill swap huge power onto gambit lol

sudden remnant
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what

cyan smelt
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Mega starmie skill swap huge power onto gambit

loud bramble
sudden remnant
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gross

loud bramble
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Ive seen intimidate wyrdeer skill swap to trigger competitive for meowstick

sudden remnant
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umbreon skill swap inner focus could be cool

loud bramble
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Too bad that mon is ass

cyan smelt
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Yeah skill swap wyrdeer was a niche thing in sv too

loud bramble
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Out speed and killed by half of the meta

sudden remnant
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sucks the mon i want to use isnt in the game

loud bramble
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Same

cyan smelt
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Mawile?

sudden remnant
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that too

loud bramble
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I wanted mawile too

sudden remnant
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mienshao mawile and archeops

cyan smelt
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Mawile would be so good in tr

loud bramble
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I hunted for a shiny alpha mawile in za

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Just for champions

sudden remnant
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mawile was good outside tr back when we had megas before

cyan smelt
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Yeah but mega zard y

sudden remnant
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zard y was always around

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didnt stop mawile before wont stop it now

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should mention mawile learns rock slide

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and the elemental fangs and punches

cyan smelt
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Lowkey thinking of putting rock slide on mega kang

sudden remnant
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and even gets poison fang which could be cool

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TPCI PLEASE GIVE ME MAWILE MIENSHAO AND ARCHEOPS

cyan smelt
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Why archeops

sudden remnant
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remember me asking what mons get entrainment?

cyan smelt
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You want to entrain scrappy onto it?

sudden remnant
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not necessarily

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scrappy is for a seperate idea entirely

cyan smelt
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Skill swap huge power onto archeops lol

loud bramble
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Meg mawile oneshots no bulk legions with sucker punch

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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Idt there's anything with entrainment and defiant

sudden remnant
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there is not

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sudden remnant
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could skill swap meowscarada protean

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that could be cool

loud bramble
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Skill swap defiant would heavily rely on the opponent to switch multiple time their intimidate mon in anyways

cyan smelt
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I still want to try toxic spikes + roar + kleavor

loud bramble
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Man those glimmora pex mega venu teams are so unfun to verse

cyan smelt
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I was thinking sneasler farig kleavor

sudden remnant
loud bramble
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No doubles

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It can work

sudden remnant
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why are they using singles stall strats in doubles

loud bramble
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They just wanna see the world burn ig

sudden remnant
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i wish aurorus didnt have 2 common types as 4x weaknesses

loud bramble
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It falls apart if you can just double glimmora and have a steel type in the back or something to cleanse spikes

sudden remnant
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chat do i try the mega chimecho sylveon copycat boomburst shenanigans

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chat what physical mega should i swap umbreon for

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umbreon has been so good for me but theres a lot of matches i just cant afford to bring it 🫠

loud bramble
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Depends on what you feel your team struggles into

sudden remnant
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um

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sand and mega floette

loud bramble
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What are you entraining with araquanid?

sudden remnant
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giving meow a fire resist after changing its type with protean, giving mega manectric a fire resist, and taking defiant away from enemy kingambits etc

loud bramble
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I think you could use mega skarmory

sudden remnant
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😀

loud bramble
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Its not the best into sand

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But good for floette

sudden remnant
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i mean i can fight sand its just so hard

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sun is incredibly easy, rain is just laughable

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sand is so difficult for me though

cyan smelt
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Sand is about the only thing I can deal with

loud bramble
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Can also tailwind in regular form with sturdy

sudden remnant
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i kinda wanna try weak armor skarm with beat up whim

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its stupid but its funny

loud bramble
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But youd probably want a sinitcha to heal brave bird recoil

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Or some other support mon

sudden remnant
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i dont even have a skarmory rn

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aghhhh i gotta grab one

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but like meow has brick break for aurora veil snow teams and sand teams

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and its working really well actually

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its just i had to swap out a slot for that yk?

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meow does not have a dark move at all

cyan smelt
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Brick break meow is scary

sudden remnant
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it ohkos mega ttar

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sudden remnant
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and these stats are absolutely absurd btw

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100 hp 150 defense

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yk another mon i wish was in champions? i want fucking Roserade

cyan smelt
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It is

sudden remnant
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i have not seen it

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anywhere 🫠

cyan smelt
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It's on the roster

sudden remnant
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im still salty mienshao and mawile arent in the game

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like nintendo what did mianshao do to you

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and you put the top support mega in history in the game BUT NOT FUCKING MAWILE???

cyan smelt
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Ykw why

sudden remnant
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so thats something to deal with sand at least

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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Because of mega floette, that's why mawile and metagross aren't in

sudden remnant
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they would both absolutely fucking cook floette

cyan smelt
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I hope mega mence is added soon, it'd cook sneasler

sudden remnant
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i think florges should also get a mega honestly

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make it like fairy ghost and make the petals that drip from its flower like cursed souls trapped in the petals

cyan smelt
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Maybe I should hop on the gc and play some more games even if my team sucks

sudden remnant
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and since its a bulky pokemon naturally genuinely just give it like cursed body as its mega ability since it could actually use the ability

loud bramble
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You could go bullet seed round scarf roserade and run it with sylveon. Scarf jolly rade outspeeds basculegion with 90% ko chance on 3 hits

sudden remnant
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how ghe fuck do i ev this skarmory like

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sudden remnant
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what do i do with this

loud bramble
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I just went max speed attack going brave bird, iron head, rock tomb and tail wind.

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Didnt really have time to perfect ivs

sudden remnant
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im gonna not run brave bird im gonna go with drill peck

loud bramble
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I think just try it a bit and see where it struggles

sudden remnant
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iron head drill peck drill run protect/tailwind

loud bramble
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I used to run max hp and spa komo-o before making adjustments and eving him to outspeed scarf legion after a clanging scales

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Best way to see what needs changing is just to play games

sudden remnant
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im gonna run tailwind on mega skarm

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and then whim is gonna be infiltrator with beat up

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means farig cant stop my taunts and encores and also lets me mess with substitute mega gengar

loud bramble
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Think you can drop tailwind if you wanna use weak armor to outspeed things

sudden remnant
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weak armor specifically lowers physical defense right

loud bramble
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Yes

sudden remnant
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cool

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you right though maybe i run a dark move instead of tailwind

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it does get rockslide that could be nice too

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since ill be fast as hell with beat up weak armor

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sure why not leta go with rock slide

loud bramble
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You can go dual wing beat over drill peck to kill sash sneasler

sudden remnant
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and i gotta remember to make whimsicott timid

loud bramble
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None runs sash on sneasler but still

sudden remnant
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i will in fact that is a valid argument

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i just dont wanna swap anyone else to cover brave bird recoil

shadow wind
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I’m a big sand fan

loud bramble
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Brave bird kinda strong af tho, it oneshots no bulk chomps at least from what i remember while playing it

sudden remnant
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speak of the devil. hello mr groudon. i hear you were trying watchog for a bit

sudden remnant
shadow wind
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Trying is a bit of an over exaggeration

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I just had 5 mon and couldn’t think of a 6th

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But you need 6 to play on the ladder

sudden remnant
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surely it did something right?

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someone made day 2 at a tournament with it the other day so it can certainly do stuff

shadow wind
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Nah he literally never came in the 5 games I had him

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The 5 were strong enough and I just needed to see what I needed more

strange fjord
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Yo, I was overhauling MunchTeams to show actual teams and such. And someone out here got a 80-1 (Bo1 CTS) with this team:

shadow wind
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Holy moly

sudden remnant
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Banette the goat

shadow wind
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Wait how did they go 80-1 and only hit 1554?

strange fjord
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Also goddamnit replays are not loading correctly. I thought I fixed this to play replay locally.

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it seems they used various alt accounts

shadow wind
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I’m confused

strange fjord
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Since the usernames are slight variations

shadow wind
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Hmm

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I might’ve lost to them at some point

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Please don’t search for my name in the wins 🙏🙏🙏

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I swear if it shows up I was uh testing?

strange fjord
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trust, you were testing

shadow wind
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I’m always testing unless I’m not

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Yknow

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A man who is always testing will never leave the lab

sudden remnant
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i just absolutely crushed this guy with manectric sneasler araquanid meow

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they had floette kngambit sneasler and i never got to see the 4th they just quit

shadow wind
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You can take the man out of the lab but you can’t take the lab out the man 🔬🔬

sudden remnant
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i should invest in a captcha card

shadow wind
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Captcha card 🔥🔥🔥

strange fjord
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finally, I fixed the replay issue on MunchTeams. Go check it out and find teams people are using. That guy is using mega bannette on bo1 and winning somehow. There's also another bo1 guy using pinsir with a 80-5 record

sudden remnant
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chat what does mr rime want to do

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sheer cold got it

shadow wind
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Clean yo screen

cyan smelt
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Ok i'm going to hop on gc and lose a lot of games 🔥

shadow wind
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Gotta have a better mental dude

cyan smelt
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Ok, I'm going to hop on gc, see how I do and take notes on what I struggle with

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I need to get into the habit of notetaking during games

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sudden remnant
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damn

cyan smelt
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Uh oh ur infiltrator

sudden remnant
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yeah 😭

cyan smelt
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Rip ur manectric

sudden remnant
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manectric survived to the endgame

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i still lost

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but manectric was the last alive

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the rime didnt get to sheer cold me cuz i have protect

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i need something faster than mega hawlucha that learns encore taunt and beat up

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well doesnt really need to be beat up

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id actually ideally want it to be bullet seed

cyan smelt
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idk if that exists, maus is only 111

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well delphox is 134 and has encore

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lopunny is 135

sudden remnant
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do either of them learn taunt and beat up/bullet seed

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how do i filter on showdown

cyan smelt
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nope they only learn encore

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go into builder and type a move into the pokemon box

sudden remnant
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salazzle is 117

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learns taunt encore and beat up

cyan smelt
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1 point slower than hawlucha

sudden remnant
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do hawlucha run max speed

cyan smelt
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i have an idea, how about chlorophyll whims with mega zard y

sudden remnant
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that would require changing my entire team

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and i like what i have

cyan smelt
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why not just use mega delphox to ohko hawlucha with psychic

sudden remnant
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id have 2 special megas

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i could do it for sure but then what do i swap skarmory for

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cuz delphox would be replacing whim

cyan smelt
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hmmm since you want to do beat up skarmory idk

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i'm gonna see if there's anything else with beat up that's faster than hawlucha

sudden remnant
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id absolutely use delphox which matches okay into my biggest issue of floette

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but it makes my sand mu even worse

sudden remnant
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im looking rn salazzle is the fastest at 117

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mega houndoom is 115 whim is 116 maushold is 111

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everything else is below 100

cyan smelt
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weavile is 125 and threatens mega hawlucha with triple axel

sudden remnant
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WAIT WEAVILE

cyan smelt
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same brain cell lmao

sudden remnant
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still wouldnt help my sand mu though

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does delphox get aura sphere

cyan smelt
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no

sudden remnant
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honestly id even take focus miss 😭

cyan smelt
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it does have focus miss

sudden remnant
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i have pretty good luck landing focus misses

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118+20+32=170 so is need my delphox to be 171 speed

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cuz 0 investment max iv is youe base stat +20 at level 50 right?

cyan smelt
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  • nature
sudden remnant
#

i sincerely doubt hawlucha runs jolly

cyan smelt
#

what nature would it even run

sudden remnant
#

adamant? or maybe like +def - spa or +spd -spa?

cyan smelt
#

any mega hawlucha users in here lmao

sudden remnant
#

i dont think they run jolly but id have no way to know

cyan smelt
#

delphox handily outspeeds

sudden remnant
#

except to try 170 mega delphox and find out the hard way

tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
#

so gains 30 points

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so i just need to be at 141

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that gives me 15 points to work with do i just throw them in hp?

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and delphox dont run protect right they usually opt for encore?

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wait i can run grass knot for sand teams

cyan smelt
#

substitute i think i've seen

sudden remnant
#

i dont need focus miss i can use grass knot

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and maybe scorching sands?

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heat wave grass knot psychic scorching sands

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and then what do i do with whimsicott

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decisions decisions

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i could use tsareena

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means kingambit cant sucker punch my delphox

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sure why not

cyan smelt
#

why not farig

sudden remnant
#

tsareena is grass which helps with my sand issue

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farig cant do anything to ttar excadrill

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also trop kick lowers attack by 1 stage 100% of the time

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which is good

cyan smelt
#

u got low kick for gambits and ttars and excas

sudden remnant
#

i can run low kick on tsareena

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and frees meow to run a dark move over triple axel

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cuz tsareena also gets it

cyan smelt
#

just watch out for scarf mold breaker exca

sudden remnant
#

what would scarf mold breaker excadrill use that effects tsareena

cyan smelt
#

no, it destroys delphox

sudden remnant
#

could scarf the tsareena maybe

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knock off triple axel low kick trop kick

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which also means my bulky sneasler set can run sitrus berry

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WHO IS THE MEGA LMAO

cyan smelt
#

not absol because it sucks

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not garchomp because it sucks

sudden remnant
#

zard i guess its sash skarmory

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swords dance absol

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lmao

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yep its mega zard

cyan smelt
#

why do people use absol, what does it even do

sudden remnant
#

thank god i brought araquanid

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BYE ZARD LMAO

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MY MANECTRIC IS BETTER THAN YOUR FAKE DRAGON

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not only did i win i didnt have a single death

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they got crushed

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manectric araquanid is such a crazy lead

cyan smelt
#

is it because it wide guards and tbolts

sudden remnant
#

yeah

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and the volt switch loquidation

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what the fuck do i do against this

cyan smelt
#

pray

sudden remnant
#

for sure a mega delphox match but jesus 😭

#

ARAQUANID I LOVE YOU

cyan smelt
#

did it wide guard again

sudden remnant
#

yes

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into a typhlosion-H eruption

cyan smelt
#

sun users are brainless

sudden remnant
#

its not even sun

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its mega garde

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why do they have water tauros if typhlosion-h has the choice scarf

#

i lead good again and it just won me the game

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araquanid meowscarada with tsareena and delphox in the back

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what am i looking at rn

cyan smelt
#

dual weather probably

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aurora veil and then sun with zard y

sudden remnant
#

lets try these 4

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hopefully i didnt lead terribly

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i did not

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thank god

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tsareena please dont miss this triple axel

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THEYRE AN IDIOT LMAOOOOOO

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they faked out with their meowstic while my tsareena was on the field

cyan smelt
#

Reminds me of yesterday when their sinistcha strength sapped into my gambit

sudden remnant
#

💀

shadow wind
#

I love when people rage powder against my meganium

sudden remnant
#

i love when they rage powder into my meow lmao

#

the guy i fought just forfeit

shadow wind
#

Yo decay happened 🙏🙏🙏

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Praise be, now my ranking gets inflated

sudden remnant
#

they lead chomp meowstic and the chomp never got to move cuz i landed all 3 hits of triple axel

shadow wind
#

Used to pray for times like this

sudden remnant
#

scarf tsareena was in fact the play i guess

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OH GOD WHAT IS THIS TEAM 😭

#

is this mega garde sand? 💀

cyan smelt
#

Are you playing gc or ladder

sudden remnant
#

ladder

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theres a gc rn?

cyan smelt
#

Yes

sudden remnant
#

i didn’t even know or i would have participated

shadow wind
#

Still can

cyan smelt
#

You can still participate

sudden remnant
#

why did they even lead their tsareena into my team

#

what kind if lead is corviknight tsareena

#

like. thanks for free delphox food i guess

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scarf arcanine lmao

#

get knocked off fool

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and they quit

#

guys im fucking cooking with this team

cyan smelt
#

Woah mega delphox is good

sudden remnant
#

ive ranked up twice just with this team

#

and have yet to lose since adding delphox and tsareena

#

is this just meta slavery?

#

is that what this is?

cyan smelt
#

How fast is scarf tsareena compared to aero

sudden remnant
#

WHY ARE PEOPLE CLICKING FAKE OUT INTO MY TSAREENA

#

YOU IDIOTS

shadow wind
sudden remnant
#

mystical fire sylveon is certainly a choice of all time

shadow wind
#

Although they’re also missing chomp so who knows

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I hate fighting against chomp aero Zard y

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Feels like I’m just playing the game of lead right or lose turn 1

sudden remnant
#

they just insta lost

#

they lead sneasler sylveon against my tsareena mega delphox

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and they forfeit

#

now THATS meta slavery

shadow wind
#

Yeah pretty much

sudden remnant
#

its fine i got this

#

i wish they would give me the sun

#

my mega delphox would absolutely love it

shadow wind
#

What’s your Delphox moveset?

sudden remnant
#

heat wave grass knot scorching sands and psychic

shadow wind
#

😧

sudden remnant
#

what

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if you cant tell i really hate sand

cyan smelt
#

No protect and no substitute

sudden remnant
#

has not mattered

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i have scarf tsareena to protect delphox

cyan smelt
#

Maybe in master ball the teams will be less random than gc and will be a better test of my team

sudden remnant
#

why did thwy just earthquake

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what the fuck is happening bro

#

i have a tsareena mega delphox on field

cyan smelt
#

It doesn't help that I don't have anything faster than mega delphox

sudden remnant
#

and they double swap

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lmao

#

and then they mega their zard with my delphox on the field

#

these people suck dogwater bro

cyan smelt
#

What rank is this

sudden remnant
#

ultra 2

cyan smelt
#

I swear that ultra 1 and 2 was easier than anything below it

sudden remnant
#

unburden bulky sitrus sneasler for the W lmao

#

and i win again

#

garchomp vs tsareena araquanid

#

yeah i win here

#

6 win streak and im now ultra 1

#

im so close to master ball

#

erm what 😭

cyan smelt
#

I had a 6 win streak to get me to master ball, idk whether that means the team is ok or other people are bad

sudden remnant
#

is this mega floette mega delphox or mega aero

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mega chomp isnt even worth mentioning

cyan smelt
#

Not mega aero

#

Sash aero, either floette or delphox

sudden remnant
#

they lead chomp incin so i still dont know

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its mega floette

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luckily i brought sneasler

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they double protect on floette

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oh dear ive now lost

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maybe

#

yeah i lost

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if they hadnt gotten the double protect id have instantly won

#

oh well it happens

cyan smelt
#

Maybe i should ladder more in mb to see what I struggle with

cerulean nacelle
cyan smelt
#

Gliscor, gambit, sneasler, skeledirge, a9, mega kang

#

Seem to struggle with sneasler and chomp and friends the most

cerulean nacelle
cyan smelt
#

Even with tw it's slow

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And sneaslers might have throat chop for some reason

sudden remnant
#

1 win away from master ball i go against another hawlucha lets see if its jolly

#

why do they have a beedril lmao

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mega beedril lmao

cyan smelt
#

Why not

sudden remnant
#

willowisp incin and stamina arch

#

i did not deserve to win that one

shadow wind
#

Man there’s not one person above me with a lower GXE than me

#

I really cooked it huh

sudden remnant
#

ive gotten 1 game away from master ball 4 times now and then i lose 2 games in a row

shadow wind
#

Many such cases

sudden remnant
#

please people just let me reach master ball 😭

sudden remnant
#

why is it the opponent always succeeds the double protects but i always fail them when i need them

#

IM ULTRA BALL 1 PLEASE JUST LET ME REACH MASTER BALL 😭

cerulean nacelle
#

I haven't done a ranked match in champions in a while. Got a bit sick of running into zard or mega floette lol

sudden remnant
#

thats like all youre gonna run into

cerulean nacelle
#

Exactly. Eventually you're gonna get burnt out.

#

I already reached master rank so I'm not too fussed tbh.

sudden remnant
#

i got 1 game away from master ball yet again…. and then lost again

#

and again im one away from winning

#

PLEASE 😭

#

welp looks like i gotta give up on manectric for a bit

#

OH MY FUCKING GOD

#

WHY

#

EVERY FUCKING TIME I GET CLOSE TO MASTER BALL I LOSE 2 GAMES AND THEN I HAVE TO START ALL OVER

chrome knot
#

you want it too badly

sudden remnant
#

ykw you right i dont even want this shit for real honestly its just a title and shi 😒

spark siren
#

Best held item for Heliolisk?

sudden remnant
#

im gonna lose to scarf archaludon

#

😭

cerulean nacelle
cerulean nacelle
sudden remnant
#

scarf archaludon

#

dark pulse flinches my delphox peli hurricane confuses my tsareena

#

peli hurricane then proceeds to confuse my meow and my meow hits herself in confusion

#

aight bro fuck you TPCI

#

fuck you

tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
#

Dude has a funny stat distribution

#

And crazy weather based abilities

sudden remnant
#

sand veil should have the additional effect of making the mon immune to sand

shadow wind
#

Agreed

#

Sand rush does it

#

Why not sand veil

tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
#

Jokes

#

It does give an immunity

#

Guess you learn something new every day

sudden remnant
#

and it benefits 2 pokemon lmao

#

wugtrio and heliolisk

shadow wind
#

Wugtrio got buffed in champions

sudden remnant
#

wtf is this team

shadow wind
sudden remnant
sudden remnant
shadow wind
#

ONLY MONS WITH 2 TYPES ALLOWED

sudden remnant
#

good thing i have a mega gardevoir

#

and an araquanid

shadow wind
#

Holy moly

#

I just realized I don’t have access to my usual showdown background

sudden remnant
#

they just tried to double fake out with infernape incin and i lead tsareena

shadow wind
#

This might be the worst news I’ve received all year

sudden remnant
#

😐

shadow wind
#

You’re just informing the masses

sudden remnant
#

do they not know what serene grace is????

shadow wind
#

Serene grace 🥀🥀🥀🥀

sudden remnant
#

queenly majesty

#

same thing fr

#

they do sound like theyd be the same

shadow wind
#

Lowkey

#

I think I’m done on the ladder for tonight

#

I love playing the team but the games are so incredibly hard right now

sudden remnant
#

psychic primarina

#

interesting

shadow wind
#

I fought a psychic mega gengar once

#

I lost turn 1 🔥🔥🔥

sudden remnant
#

what 💀

cerulean nacelle
#

I just ran into a white herb archaludon

sudden remnant
#

its fine i have thunderbolt mega gardevoir

cerulean nacelle
#

Colour me surprised.

shadow wind
#

White herb Archaludon???

sudden remnant
#

i ran into one too

shadow wind
#

Wrong herb 🥀🥀🥀

sudden remnant
#

i cooked it of course but still

cerulean nacelle
#

Yeah this was on the same team as T wave dragapult and heat wave mega delphox.

shadow wind
#

I mean heat wave mega Delphox is real

#

And Dragapult has been used as a support Mon in the past

#

I’m starting to see more espathras on the ladder and I’m not happy about it

cerulean nacelle
#

My lead of bulky froslass + aerodactyl made them have to play really defensively. I got the tailwind off and then proceeded to just output damage with rock slide and use aurora veil on froslass which put way too much pressure on them.

cerulean nacelle
sudden remnant
#

calm mind baton pass with speed boost?

cerulean nacelle
#

Ohhh are you on about singles?

sudden remnant
#

ive seen it in doubles

cerulean nacelle
#

Damn, people really be getting greedy. Anything for a stat boost ig.

sudden remnant
#

calm mind protect baton pass with sash

shadow wind
#

Yeah it’s the baton pass stuff

#

Cause they essentially have quiver dance

#

And then they baton pass into like Floette or something

sudden remnant
#

🥀

#

how does archaludon live that

#

what the fuck

shadow wind
#

Or they baton pass into Archaludon and my life flashes before my eyes

sudden remnant
#

truw

#

its okay i ran into a scarf archaludon with dark pulse a little bit ago

#

it flinched my delphox of course cuz naturally it did

#

and i naturally instantly lost

shadow wind
#

Freaky

sudden remnant
#

crits ignore my own attack drops eight

shadow wind
#

Yes

sudden remnant
#

cool

shadow wind
#

And the targets defense or spdef raises

#

And screens

sudden remnant
#

scarf knock off is just not it bro

#

bye araquanid 😔

#

i think i lose

#

my tsareena is locked into knock off into incin peli with a basc in the back

#

and guess what i was 1 away from master ball yet again

cerulean nacelle
#

I'm tryna think how I wanna utilise mega manectric

#

Part of me wants to use it alongside a support sableye.

shadow wind
#

I had a mega Manectric team

cerulean nacelle
#

Against sun, the sableye can fake out the venusaur and let mega manectric OHKO with flamethrower.

Against anything else, it can set up rain dance to let mega manectric fire off full power thunders.

cerulean nacelle
shadow wind
#

For sure

#

That team was really experimental and I didn’t fix it up at all so it’s still a rough idea

keen quiver
#

Clawitzer 1 tapping mega gengar.
anyway

chrome knot
#

#ok

sudden remnant
#

i just lost to espeon psyspam and clorophyll whimsicott

#

🫩

tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
#

120 bp ok

#

aight i just lost my 4th game in a row i think thats enough for today

keen quiver
#

note to myself
always give mystic water to clawitzer to 1 tap charizard Ys

#

holy shit
last respect adaptability is busted as shit

keen quiver
#

okay
buff ice hammer accuracy 💀

#

yea buff it at this point.
Miss 3 in a row

#

this game is so unreal

sudden remnant
#

welcome to pokemon

near crag
#

Been running this team, any ideas on how to improve the korai lunala mu? https://pokepast.es/f6b26f37005b1bb8 I've also experienced with switching lando to pelipper, but it's still not perfectly accurate

keen quiver
#

pressing rock slide on an inner focus mon.

#

How people be thinking when facing Inner focus

sudden remnant
#

its not always about the flinch

keen quiver
sudden remnant
#

which happens all the time

#

thats how pokemon works

keen quiver
#

also alot of rock slide users use kings rock
So yea it was mostly all about the flinch

sudden remnant
#

kings rock is in the game?

keen quiver
#

yes

sudden remnant
#

damn i should do fling weavile strats

keen quiver
sudden remnant
#

fake out turn 1 fling turn 2

sudden remnant
#

(thats a lie jack or paul would 100% battle me if i asked)

keen quiver
#

would be funny asf if they did switch in nerfs where pokemons take additional damage when switching pokemons during that turn

sudden remnant
#

??

keen quiver
#

im joking
i know they wouldnt do that lol

#

why are they people STILL trying to do the perish song strat

winter fox
timber falcon
#

No no they’re right

#

Buff hammer arm while ur at it, ive missed too many times

spark siren
#

Can a timid Heliolisk with full speed investment outspeed zard y and basculegion without choice scarf?

bold geode
#

Just asking

#

Has anyone in here been dumb enough to try to make Mega Meowstic work yet or

dense latch
#

if it's worth anything i think moxieboosted made a video on meowstic

keen quiver
timber falcon
winter fox
keen quiver
bold geode
#

Hell I think Beedrill might be better than it KEKW

dense latch
#

it just sucks that it's objectively worse than mega alakazam which is not a good mega to begin with lmao

#

with the correct evs alakazam just has better stats

bold geode
#

Does spread e force save it

#

My thing is
It might be the worst mega rn
But when it gets spread e force

#

It won't be anymore not cuz of spread e force but cuz by that point we'll have Malamar KEKW

loud bramble
#

Unironically just go gravity delphox for spread e force

dense latch
loud bramble
#

With a farigiraf/tsarena in the back to block suckerpunch. You just end up having a way better time vs whats meta

bold geode
dense latch
#

why did they think giving another pure psychic type mega trace was a good idea

timber falcon
#

Just a worse alakazam?

bold geode
#

Let's just accept the fact that Delphox isn't gonna be an E Force spammer and that's ok

winter fox
timber falcon
#

Should be at least 100% accuracy tho

#

Lowers speed

bold geode
timber falcon
#

It’s not a good thing when I miss ttar twice in one game

bold geode
#

Well shit happens

#

Something you gotta accept when running inaccurate moves

timber falcon
#

😔

winter fox
river tangle
#

Anyone got recommendations for a team built around Mega Froslass and Mega Delphox?

timber falcon
#

Why those 2?

#

It’s not like either are secondary Megas I don’t think

river tangle
#

I like going hyper offense

#

Though if I’m switching one out, it’ll be delphox

mighty stump
#

There is nothing I like playing this meta

#

I’m bored of my Rain team too

timber falcon
#

Why not go off meta

#

By the rate the meta is going I wouldn’t be surprised of there’s a lot of hidden synergy people have yet to capitalise on

mighty stump
timber falcon
#

I’ll be honest I kinda forgot what everyone here does for teams

#

Ik you like bulky sets iicr

stuck perch
#

Im that guy let's gooo

chrome knot
#

?

timber falcon
stuck perch
#

I didn't know Meganium outspeeds Milotic wtf 😮

chrome knot
#

milotic is mostly 32hp 32def and is a singular base spe stat higher than meganium

stuck perch
chrome knot
#

no idea then

stuck perch
#

Wrong Meganium

chrome knot
#

both of these outspeed 0 investment milotic bruh

stuck perch
#

Damn lmao well that's good to know

rustic mountain
#

0 points in speed
proceeds to show pictures w/ neither 0 points in speed

stuck perch
rustic mountain
#

hahaa ik that was the point budgetgachichamp

timber falcon
stuck perch
#

Bro Dragonite shud not outspeed my 151 Speed Rotom bruh

timber falcon
#

mega?

solid frigate
stuck perch
bold geode
stuck perch
bold geode
#

Idek how much

tiny karmaBOT
timber falcon
#

speed points go up by 20, so from 132 max to 152

bold geode
#

Yeah it gets like a whole 20 points faster KEKW

#

So that CAN outspeed Rotom

#

@chrome knot turns you into marketable plushie

stuck perch
stuck perch
#

Or use Whimsicott again

keen quiver
#

okay damn i got baited by a mega charizard X in doubles
Switched out to cloud nine drampa 😭

winter fox
#

I try to set up Trick Room ➡️ I get Faked Out ➡️ They target my Trick Room Sweeper ➡️ They outspeed me in Trick Room 🔁

keen quiver
#

Do you not have a ghost type or armor tail farigiraf?

winter fox
keen quiver
#

ghost types are better for setting up trick room
or armor tail farigiraf if they're trying to priority

winter fox
#

That stupid fucking bridge that I hate always outspeeds Crab and I die before I can get a move off.

stuck perch
winter fox
#

Any changes y'all would make?

molten oasis
timber falcon
#

Once swapped in torkoal to tank a hit only to be obliterated by sun boosted flare blitz

#

Especially in ots it’s smth to watch out for

molten oasis
#

It was painful to fight

timber falcon
#

whats ur speed control btw

#

icy wind im assuming?

molten oasis
#

Icy wind yea

#

Meow’s scarfed and phox outspeeds like, pretty much everything

timber falcon
#

even aero?

tiny karmaBOT
timber falcon
#

even aero

molten oasis
#

Yep

stuck perch
#

! Corviknight

stuck perch
#

Chat dead

rustic mountain
#

ive had a few recently be game deciding

molten oasis
#

The times it missed I was just like

#

I knew the game wasn’t over by a long shot but like

#

His redirects were at so little hp for that whole fckn game

rustic mountain
#

still on delphox i see

molten oasis
#

Yuh

#

I tried Gengar and Megan’s

#

Megan’s lmao, Meganium

rustic mountain
#

seems like a rough speed tier

#

but in certain spots, man it can put in work

molten oasis
#

They weren’t fun, Gengar doesn’t click with me and Meganium, while I think it’s good isn’t for me

dense latch
molten oasis
#

The fast speed tier mons are more my style

dense latch
#

can't relate im too busy getting parahaxed in reg i :))))

molten oasis
#

The hax of this format are miserable

#

Rock slide is everywhere

rustic mountain
#

yea

#

it can be very unfun

dense latch
#

when i go back im def using wide guard on my team

rustic mountain
#

i just try and figure out ways to minimize it as best i can (still gna happen)

#

otherwise just gna be infuriated by the 800th rock slide flinch that puts me in a tough spot

dense latch
#

i tried to push for 80% gxe in bo1 reg i and lost at 79.9

#

im trying to play bo3 but man are queues long

rustic mountain
#

more ppl seemingly jumping onto it but its not super widespread

molten oasis
#

Cuz I can’t fit wide guard, like I’ve consider aegislash over gambit but gambit does too much for phox

molten oasis
#

Did the twave flutter set get more popular?

dense latch
#

na

#

not in any majors i believe or my experience in ladder so far

#

i only really see flutter next to koraidon

#

but for some reason i just keep queuing into grimm

molten oasis
dense latch
#

yea

molten oasis
#

That blows

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

Scarf meow

rustic mountain
#

bruh jordanlaugh

molten oasis
#

Hey, it was tofus idea

#

I’m not even joking, and it’s fucking working

rustic mountain
#

i just remember me mentioning playing vs scarf meow the other week and u were like wtf hahhaa

molten oasis
#

I didn’t see the vision

#

But also it’s patching my issues into Milo and basc

rustic mountain
#

is good vs basc

molten oasis
#

Phox needs to go to too much shit to really leave it behind for a grass mega

rustic mountain
#

r u not dual mega?

molten oasis
#

And from experience idt gambit has been enough, plus I have a way to nuke mega aero

rustic mountain
#

gotcha

molten oasis
#

The encore disable stuff with a9 and phox has been great too

foggy lodge
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Idk if i posted it here but 4 scovillain in cut

molten oasis
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But I needed a 6th to help with water types and Rotom sucks so we went for meow

molten oasis
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I think that mon’s good because it’s a heavy physical metagame

stuck perch
dense latch
dense latch
stuck perch
keen quiver
foggy lodge
stuck perch
stuck perch
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I did it 😮‍💨

fluid fiber
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When does the GC end?

clever root
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New team concept, gotta find

  • a mon who can be annoying in TR
  • a speed controller
  • idunno
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Will probs swap rock slide off skarm

next stump
next dust
clever root
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The humble dark type who says nuh uh

rustic mountain
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nd then the niche pick

molten oasis
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Yuh

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Tho it would have been Rotom, but I think Rotom kinda sucks so

rustic mountain
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y

shadow wind
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Rotom goated 😧

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Oh tree I hit 1820 yesterday

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Showdown ladder

molten oasis
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Basc is rough but I have something for basc, meow is extra

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I cannot beat Milo consistently with Rotom

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And hydro pump feels bad to use

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It’s cosplaying as a bulky mon as well