competitive_discussion

[cyan smelt]

ttar is strong

lmao just watched something insane, audino simple beam into cosmic power mega chimeco

with psych up glowking i think

[shadow wind]

Wild

[clever root]

Pondering on what my final mon should be

[cyan smelt]

never disrespect audino

[clever root]

Me thinks some form of weather control

Or i just slap sylveon on the team

[cyan smelt]

Sneasler or basc looks really good here

Your gambit should be chople too

Oh wait you have tauros

Something anti tr

[clever root]

Anti tr as in works in tr?

[cyan smelt]

Something to discourage tr

[clever root]

Time to slap on a torkoal

[cyan smelt]

I wouldn't, maybe a sinistcha or farig

[clever root]

The redirection of sinistcha is nice for my team, will probs use it

[cyan smelt]

Give it life dew too

[clever root]

Life dew, TR, Matcha Gotcha and Rage?

[cyan smelt]

Sounds solid yeah

[cerulean nacelle]

I agree with what's said before. I think sinistcha is the play. Gives you a sneasler switch in for your kingambit and provides health etc.

[clever root]

Need a name for sinistcha and possibly a new one for dnite, thinking of DUBAI!!! For sinisitcha cuz its got that matcha thing and all i can think of is that shitpost of matcha dubai chocolate

I settled on calling it labubu

[cyan smelt]

I'm nervous about the gc, do I brave it even though I'm not sure about my team

[clever root]

Yes

You got nothin to lose and everything to gain

[cyan smelt]

I'm gonna get some practice matches in on casual first because I'm not comfortable with the changes I've made yet

I know casual is not the same as gc or in game ladder

[shadow wind]

I was laddering earlier with Watchog

Just think I should share that

[cyan smelt]

how is the undisputed worst pokemon on the champions roster

[clever root]

Found out i'm stupid weak to corv

[shadow wind]

Cause he’s got that illuminate 🔥🔥🔥

He can’t be blinded

[cyan smelt]

i forget, what does illuminate do again

accuracy cannot be lowered

[shadow wind]

AND it doesn’t care about evasion buffs

[shadow wind]

My glorious goat laughs in the face of Muk Smeargle

And sand veil chomp

[cyan smelt]

ok but what does it do in return

[shadow wind]

Ice punch 🔥🔥🔥

[shadow wind]

Holy moly

[cyan smelt]

did he use rock sliders

[shadow wind]

No he used Espathra Floette😭😭😭

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2599757151-wgdyn5jg1rbtaym6a58pr4tewic24x8pw

[cyan smelt]

false advertising

[shadow wind]

He lost to rock slide though

I am now 130th

Yippee

[cyan smelt]

ttar is good into espathra stuff

[shadow wind]

Sorry wait 140th I lied

[shadow wind]

And they tried to get greedy and dkiss

But my goat Ttar eats that for breakfast

[cyan smelt]

i didn't realise meowstic is faster than kang

[shadow wind]

Meowstic is just fast no?

[cyan smelt]

oh true it is

[shadow wind]

Thank god that thing didn’t get psychic surge😭😭😭

That would’ve been gg

Actually Ttar would be the goat then

I mean he still is

[shadow wind]

Such beautiful stats

Not a single mega point went into his spatk thank god

[shadow wind]

Hmm

And one of them has a stab 120 BP spread move

Gg

[cyan smelt]

lol in casuals played against an instruct oranguru with mega zard y

[shadow wind]

Freaky

Oranguru is an instruct merchant

[cyan smelt]

indeed

maybe i should play actual gc instead of these non-serious teams

[shadow wind]

He does it well though to be fair

[shadow wind]

Yeah do that

[clever root]

Ya'll aint ready for instruct explosion

[shadow wind]

Wish I could participate in the gc this time around

[cerulean nacelle]

Nahhhhhh

Instruct dual wingbeat

hit 4 times, can't lose

[shadow wind]

Pop bomb instruct

With kings rock

(Scarf Oranguru)

[cerulean nacelle]

Scarf oranguru my glorious goat

[clever root]

Instruct with misty explosion sylveon

[shadow wind]

God my GXE is bad

I guess that’s what I get for clowning down in the 1300s for a week straight

[shadow wind]

Gg

[clever root]

Thunder punch dnite is funny as hell

Is it a good check into corv? No. But its funny

[shadow wind]

No protect on aero?

[clever root]

i find wide guard more useful

Idk why

[shadow wind]

Usually if you’re running wide guard you drop dual wing beat

I feel like protect is infinitely more useful than honestly any other move on aero

Else you just get faked out turn 1 and lose your sash

[clever root]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[shadow wind]

Just a suggestion, if it’s working then keep it

[clever root]

Its working atm but its deffo cuz i'm stuck in pisslow

[shadow wind]

Hey Pokémon is Pokemon no matter the level

[cyan smelt]

weird i lost to zard y, incin and arcanine in casuals

[shadow wind]

Triple fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[cyan smelt]

weird teams in casuals

[clever root]

The toilet bird is wanting to speak to them

[cyan smelt]

i'm gonna do gc after this game

[shadow wind]

I only ever participated in 1 GC

And I did so bad

But that’s ok

[cyan smelt]

i honestly think i might put sitrus back on gliscor

[shadow wind]

Gliscor ???

Toxic orb fraud

Singles players rejoice

[cyan smelt]

i'll tell you what's a fraud, shell smash blastoise

[shadow wind]

Nah that guy put in numbers against me

[clever root]

Dnite is a funny mon on my team, it checks glass cannon garchomp but leaves tanky garchomps at below 10%, plus thunderpunch goes brr

[shadow wind]

(I forgot about it twice😭😭)

[cyan smelt]

i hate scarf chomp

on rain = wtf

these teams are too random

[shadow wind]

Scarf chomp is very annoying

Which is why I always hit that clean double tect turn one

Unless they have encore potential

Then screw information I’m blowing your team up

[clever root]

Ive seen someone play against fire blast mega garchomp

[shadow wind]

I mean it has 120 spatk

Man he got shafted

[clever root]

Tbf, it does get scale shot now

[shadow wind]

50 BP move 🥀🥀🥀

[cyan smelt]

just completely destroyed a hisuian decidueye

i correctly predicted it had sash and megaed kang into double edge

coaching + parental bond is awesome

[shadow wind]

Sounds like power up punch all over again

[cyan smelt]

sneasler is mega kang's best friend

i like this lead pair

[shadow wind]

And his biggest opp

[cyan smelt]

well i won my first game

[shadow wind]

W

[cyan smelt]

tricky team, sneasler and mega scizor with garde and conk

and rotom-w

[shadow wind]

Rotom WWWWW

Cause all he does is win

[cyan smelt]

this is a hard opponent

[timber falcon]

how would this team deal with basc outside of tr?

upon testing basically everything just dies to last respect except kang which cant even hit back

[shadow wind]

Non mega kang double edge

Kang can easily live wave crash in the sun

[timber falcon]

oh yeah i can just not mega

[shadow wind]

And mega Zard

Scrappy is incredibly awesome

[timber falcon]

mega zard gets obliterated by last respect everytime for me

[shadow wind]

Yeah usually

Even a 100 BP one probably kills

[timber falcon]

oh it does

[shadow wind]

W adaptability 🔥🔥🔥

[cyan smelt]

i think i lose this one, damn conkeldurr

[shadow wind]

Yeah I’d suggest bringing both kang and Zard but not megaing Kang

Can also fake out the fish

And solar beam nukes

[timber falcon]

yeah ill do that

[cyan smelt]

why does rotom have to be so damn tanky

[timber falcon]

the team is just so weird compared to current meta

[cyan smelt]

and why did the scizor have assurance

weird move to run

[shadow wind]

I saw a lot of assurance today for some reason

[timber falcon]

yeah ive seen a few assurance incin

[shadow wind]

Have you guys seen a lot of ttars?

I feel like I never see them

[timber falcon]

i see quite a few

[cyan smelt]

conkeldurr is quite annoying

[timber falcon]

how come

[shadow wind]

Really strong Mach punches

[cyan smelt]

mach punch and drain punch, this team had a lot of prio

[shadow wind]

Also it gets wide guard

[timber falcon]

so prio spam?

[timber falcon]

oh

[cyan smelt]

yeah it had mega scizor and conk

[timber falcon]

bulky offensive

[cyan smelt]

next a rain team with what i assume is rain dance sableye

[shadow wind]

252+ Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Meganium-Mega: 114-134 (73.5 - 86.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[cyan smelt]

with scizor again

[shadow wind]

Holy moly that does a lot

0 SpA Mega Sol Meganium-Mega Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 248 HP / 128 SpD Scizor-Mega: 272-324 (154.5 - 184%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[cyan smelt]

beginning to really hate scizor

[shadow wind]

Kaboom

Hold up that scizor has freaky singles evs

[timber falcon]

Oh yeah I’ve seen so many lately

Apparently it’s just good now

[shadow wind]

I almost lost to a couple earlier

They’re no joke

You just need godlike Zard lines

Are you guys double mega enjoyers?

I feel like I haven’t made a team without 2 megas on it yet

[timber falcon]

Watching a scizor swords dance as i misread is one of the most horrible feelings I’ve felt

[dapper musk]

Yo guys can you get lucario z in champions

[shadow wind]

No

[timber falcon]

I don’t think so

[shadow wind]

It really shows that anything can happen

[dapper musk]

Oh what abt absol or garchomp z

[timber falcon]

Absolutely yes but not the new one

Garchomp no

[dapper musk]

Alr

[cyan smelt]

wait what samurott is faster than gliscor now?

[shadow wind]

Absol Z is not in

[dapper musk]

Oh so no z Megas?

[shadow wind]

None of the Z megas are in the game

[dapper musk]

Ohhh alr thxs

[shadow wind]

Hasn’t he always been??

[dapper musk]

Btw I just found out z megas even existed 💀

[timber falcon]

Which boulder were you under

[shadow wind]

Wait isn’t Gliscor like 88 or something

[shadow wind]

95 yeah

I knew guy was fast

[cyan smelt]

gliscor is faster

[shadow wind]

Might’ve been scarf

Sam is a good scarfer

[dapper musk]

Yh I quit Pokémon for a while and started playing again when champions came out

I don’t have za either since I’m too poor

[timber falcon]

Me and you both

[cyan smelt]

god i lost this one too

[shadow wind]

Me triple

[timber falcon]

Replay?

[cyan smelt]

it's on champions

[shadow wind]

When winds and wakes come out and I need to drop a band on a switch 2 it’s ggs

[timber falcon]

Unless it’s on Nintendo

[cyan smelt]

it

it's not scarf because it used aqua cutter then sacred sword

[shadow wind]

Ah ok

[cyan smelt]

and sucker punch

[shadow wind]

Lowkey gross movepool

[cyan smelt]

fuck these teams bro

[shadow wind]

Wait meganium walls Miraidon

[cyan smelt]

how can it be faster than gliscor and kang

[shadow wind]

Greatest news I’ve ever heard

[timber falcon]

Nothing walls a specs electro drift without immunity

[shadow wind]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Meganium-Mega in Electric Terrain: 111-131 (71.6 - 84.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[shadow wind]

Gg

Lowkey fire stats though

Could be a little faster but 80 ain’t bad

[timber falcon]

Tr viable

[shadow wind]

I’m almost running 32 speed modest 😭😭

I love outspeeding low Archaludons

I’ve even outsped a Zard y before

[cyan smelt]

spikes froslass wut

[dapper musk]

I low key wish winds and waves isn’t only gonna release on switch two

[shadow wind]

I’m realizing how fast I’ve made my fat and slow team

[dapper musk]

Since I only have switch oled

[cyan smelt]

mega garchomp wut

[timber falcon]

Same

[shadow wind]

22 speed Ttar, 29 speed meganium

These mons have never seen such speeds

My Volcarona was missing evs

I hit 140th on ladder with missing evs 🔥🔥🔥

[timber falcon]

Running into niche megas is horrible for me

[shadow wind]

Gg go next

This is why you always check your team builder

[timber falcon]

I sent in Pokémon to deal with a mega Gyarados MU only to be shoved around by mega sabelye

[shadow wind]

I guess I was laddering with a watchog earlier so any Volcarona is better than that

[cyan smelt]

i smacked around this team with mega garchomp at least

[shadow wind]

I got sploded by a mega banette earlier

Poltergeist OHKO’d my Kommo

Oh maybe I was -1 defense

[cyan smelt]

i expected the froslass to mega but the garchomp did instead

[shadow wind]

That would make more sense

I think I like Pokémon again

[cyan smelt]

this team is weird, politoed, palafin, venusaur, horoark and scizor

and farig

[shadow wind]

Freaky

I really dislike horoark

Especially the scarf icy wind ones

[cyan smelt]

oh great the palafin protected

and the scizor is zoroark

[shadow wind]

You just gotta always play like they led the Zoroark

[cyan smelt]

fuck i hate this gc

and i hate mega scizor

palafin is washed idk why anyone would use it

[shadow wind]

Because they aren’t brainwashed by big Basculegion yet

Soon they will be

Very soon everyone will be running Basculegion

[cyan smelt]

now i got mega aggron, kleavor, zard, incin, sinistcha and milotic

[shadow wind]

Yo I hate mega aggron

Actually screw that guy

He stopped me from hitting rank 1

[timber falcon]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2599789369-kytebc4662vuan3laf4nid8v2ypgx66pw stall

im so happy they didnt bring vena

[torpid silo]

Does anybody have good Golurk teams

I'm having trouble with him and I wanna make it work

[timber falcon]

pretty sure cybertron made a vid on it

you should check it out, he mes quite comprehensive when explaining how the team operates and MUs that may be a challenge

[cyan smelt]

i lost to the mega aggron team

this gc is tough

pretty sure i'm no good at vgc

and ofc the kleavor knows night slash

i'm doing bad

[shadow wind]

I played against a night slash Kleavor and it boomed me

[cyan smelt]

these teams are so tough

maybe i should just quit

[shadow wind]

Can always come back later

[cyan smelt]

i'll play one more and if i lose i'll quit

oh great it's fucking scarf chomp here to ruin my day again

oh yay i won

[shadow wind]

W

[cyan smelt]

now i lost to brainless zard y and aero

why can't i make any progress man

and now fucking scarf rotom

[shadow wind]

Man I hate Zard Y and aero

Genuinely nothing beats em

Where is Heatran when you need him

I guess chomp beats them

[cyan smelt]

i lost again this time to mega stoise, scarf rotom and garchomp

and sneasler

man why can't i win

[timber falcon]

you could take a break if you feel like youre playing off

[cyan smelt]

idk what these teams are bro

[shadow wind]

Lowkey mentality is 75% of Pokémon

If I’m not in it I’ll tank like 300 elo

[cyan smelt]

fucking hell now i lost to chimeco and tr mudsdale

what are these teams, mudsdale and mega chimeco

[shadow wind]

I had a mega Chimecho team once

It didn’t last very long

Although a buddy of mine use mega Chimecho to hit Masterball

Lowkey the most proud of ever been in Pokemon

[cyan smelt]

this is all fully bo1 cheese

[shadow wind]

Most GC teams are

[timber falcon]

true

[spark siren]

I am building a non meta sun team. So far, I have Heliolisk (Volt Switch pivot), Mega Houndoom (solar power sweeper), and Sinistcha (rage powder support). Which remaining team members should I add?

[shadow wind]

Who’s your sun setter?

[spark siren]

I am considering Torkoal so that it can set up sun after Pelipper sets up rain

[cyan smelt]

go with mega zard y

[shadow wind]

Then houndoom will never get to pop off

[cyan smelt]

oh right

[spark siren]

Should I teach Whimsicott sunny day as a backup sun setter?

[cyan smelt]

great looks like i lost to adamant sneasler

[bold geode]

Was it ever doing that?

[shadow wind]

Yknow I’ve seen a lot worse

Too bad it isn’t 121 speed

[cyan smelt]

fucking throat chop sneasler wtf like the only one ever

[shadow wind]

I thought we left that set in sv

Oh wait that was the sd Sneasler with acro set

[cyan smelt]

this team has chomp, zard, hippowdon and scizor

[shadow wind]

I love hippowdown

My second favourite sand setter

[cyan smelt]

stealth rock hippowdon lmao

[shadow wind]

Someone hates Zard y

[viscid garnet]

https://pokepast.es/4a1678ed085a1698
just hit Ultra 2 with this team! It’s lowkey so fun, my goats Blastoise and Pikachu are killing it

Meganium has rare usage just because she has a pretty bad mu against sneasler and sun teams

[spark siren]

Should I give Houndoom Solar Beam or Scorching Sand as a coverage move?

[loud bramble]

Currently ranked 514 in the global challenge with this team, any thoughts on how to improve it?

[shadow wind]

Meganium is the goat ??

[shadow wind]

I mean if you’re 514th it’s gotta be working

I’d suggest weatherball instead of overheat on the Zard just for more consistency

[cyan smelt]

i fucking lost to this stealth rock roar hippowdon

[shadow wind]

I personally run dragon fang on my Kommo but if Haban is working then keep it

And I think Trop kick is just strictly better than seed bomb now with the BP increase

[cyan smelt]

i think this team is ass bro

[shadow wind]

Unless you are trying to not proc Milotic competitive

[loud bramble]

It probably depends on your team, if you are missing mons that shut down fire types like incin go sands and beam if your matchup into waters is worse

[shadow wind]

Then seed bomb is probably better

[cyan smelt]

mixed set mega dnite wtf

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah those exist

For some reason

[loud bramble]

Yeah its for milo

[cyan smelt]

my rank keeps plummeting

[viscid garnet]

She is the goat, i just find myself barely using her in a lot of matchups that i’ve come up against

[cyan smelt]

maybe it's time to take a break

[shadow wind]

I almost always bring mine

[viscid garnet]

I used to

But then i started using blastoise and he’s been WAY more consistent for me tbh

[shadow wind]

Actually wait let me check, I have like 4 replays I can watch back

[cyan smelt]

gcs are hellish

[loud bramble]

I really wanted to kill giraffes turn 1, i used to run weatherball but some bulky farigirafs would live unless i helping handed

[viscid garnet]

I will say that my team has no way of dealing with trick room other than stalling it out

[shadow wind]

In the 3 replays I could find I brought meganium to all 3

[viscid garnet]

Specifically farigiraf

[shadow wind]

I love meganium

[viscid garnet]

She’s so cool

[shadow wind]

Overheat is probably fine then

[viscid garnet]

Thats why i cant bring myself to take her off

[shadow wind]

Only thing I could think of changing would be the Kommo berry but if you like your Kommo living a Draco then keep it

I just like dragon fang cause it lets him deal damage before clangorous

But it comes down to personal preference at that point

[loud bramble]

I feel the berry has won me a fair deal of games but i also lost some for missing kos on basculegions

[shadow wind]

I just recently came back to using her cause she is very good imo

[cyan smelt]

low kick just deleted ttar

[shadow wind]

Feel that hard

[loud bramble]

Thats why i just run kanga rn

Best mon ever ngl

[shadow wind]

Nah he’s the goat

Scrappy fake out 🔥🔥🔥

Faking out Sableye?? Sign me up please

[loud bramble]

That stupid ass sableye archaludon team

Omg feels so good to stomp em

[shadow wind]

Triple ghost…

Just kill me now

That’s a meganium MU for sure in my books

On the bright side those arch’s are slow as balls

So most stuff outspeeds

[loud bramble]

Komo-o eats those archaludons for breakfast

[shadow wind]

And that Sableye usually doesn’t run encore or disable

So it’s lovely

2 aura spheres and the arch is gonezo

Usually

[loud bramble]

With helping hand its a oneshot

[shadow wind]

I legit played that team like 5 times in a row earlier on showdown

[shadow wind]

Even through light screen?

[loud bramble]

Dont think so, but i just kill sableye first

[shadow wind]

I usually just click clanging scales + meganium Dgleam

Just big spread damage to make the scary guys go away

Ttar and meganium are my top 2 megas for sure right now

[loud bramble]

Meg def has a lot of potential

I love trickroom/tailwind mons

[shadow wind]

80 base speed is perfect for that

Unfortunately my team has neither tailwind or trickroom

Just bulky offense

[cyan smelt]

i beat sand

[shadow wind]

W

[cyan smelt]

i'll get to 15 battles then stop

[shadow wind]

Although is it really bulky offense is half my mons are 20+ speed invest

Sounds like a ho larp

[cyan smelt]

another sand team

[loud bramble]

Sand teams arent that scary ngl

[cyan smelt]

this guy was not smart, he strength sapped gambit

[keen quiver]

okay nerf the matcha gotcha healing at this point

thats what they need to do

[cyan smelt]

i beat sand again

maybe at 15 battles is where i end it for tn

sinistcha is a very annoying pokemon

[keen quiver]

just nerf matcha gotcha damage and healing

[chrome knot]

play better

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1409759918839304212/1499917856673108158/h-qSi1Vbo0Ih7qce-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

[cyan smelt]

my team is fine into sand it's just other mons i struggle with, esp scizor

[bold geode]

Hello stinky

[chrome knot]

goodbye

@bold geode geogussr

[cyan smelt]

at least i know my sand matchup is good, it's other teams i have to figure out

[shadow wind]

Is that my backyard ????

[shadow wind]

Hey…

I use sand teams

[cyan smelt]

i've learnt i can't fake out the sableye on the archaludon teams because they have encore

i don't think coaching sneasler is it

[bold geode]

UH UH
COLORADO

[shadow wind]

Monke I’m sorry, but Maxi and I made another Meganium team

I guess technically it’s the same meganium team? But it’s pretty different so maybe it counts as a different team

[cyan smelt]

Are you using meganium on sand

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[cyan smelt]

What do you do for scizor

[shadow wind]

But different sand than before

Weather ball

Kablam

I also have a Volcarona

[cyan smelt]

Can meganium live bullet punch

[shadow wind]

Yup

And I have a follow me Clefable

Although it might be more worth it to run rage powder Volc?

Not really sure the team was made like 7 hours ago

[cyan smelt]

I don't like mega scizor or blastoise

[shadow wind]

Blastoise is a cheese merchant

Fake out or shell smash

No one knows until turn 2 and by then it’s gg

[cyan smelt]

I know that but it's hard to stop

[shadow wind]

I definitely lost to them today

[cyan smelt]

Assurance mega scizor was weird

[shadow wind]

Definitely, not a clue why they have that

Just run bullet punch bug bite or something

Maybe cc

[cyan smelt]

Oh well just gc things

[shadow wind]

Truly

[cyan smelt]

I'm glad I stopped playing because I think I was getting tilted

[shadow wind]

Pokémon is extremely tilting

Even when you’re winning

I could always complain about Mega floette

Even when I beat it I see the lines my opponent could’ve taken and then I tilted from that

[cyan smelt]

I feel like I don't think very hard when I'm playing and that's why I lose

[dark sorrel]

Is there a particular reason why people don't run mega venusaur? I've got Mega Meganium on my rain team, and I mean I like fire type weather ball and instant solar beam, but it's also 4x weak to Sneasler, and steel types are fairly common in the current meta

comparatively mega venusaur is only weak to flying and psychic, which yeah are common enough too, but on the face of it , it seems like 2 weaknesses should be easier to play around compared to 4 weaknesses and 1 4x weakeness

[shadow wind]

Offensively Venu is pretty mediocre and just overall plays differently than Meganium

Meganium will often wall Garchomp which is its main attraction

It also can launch those fire type weather balls into most if not all the steel types

Kingambit and Aegislash both die to a fully invested weather ball

Most of the time anyway

There’s definitely pros and cons to both of them but if you think meganium isn’t suited for your team then switch it

[spark siren]

What is a good ev spread for torkoal in a sun team?

[shadow wind]

Quiet 32 spatk and 32 hp and 2 spdef

[dark sorrel]

I've mostly been using meganium to counter Arch with Earth power, and weather ball into other grass types. Weather ball into gambit is good, but it also requires speed investment for Meganium to outspeed those guys. And some people are running max speed gambit to outspeed other gambits. I just can't help feel like those points would be better invested elsewhere, but then if I do that it also feels like Venusaur is just doing the same thing, albeit with less special att as you say.

[shadow wind]

Assuming there’s a tr element of course

[dark sorrel]

I might have to experiment but you're probably correct

[shadow wind]

Experimenting is how you get cool new better teams

Gotta always be experimenting to improve is how I see it

I run a pretty fast meganium so my opinion is more skewed towards it being offensive than defensive as well

I think my meganium hits 129 speed

[dark sorrel]

my experience is I experiment and lose a bunch so I go back to my original team haha

[shadow wind]

Many such cases

90% of my teams don’t even get a third game

Make a team play 2 games to see how they are and if they’re awful I drop em

Gotta not have attachments to teams I feel

The right ones will come eventually

[polar canyon]

Is rain dnite still considered good

[timber falcon]

252+ SpA Pelipper Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Venusaur-Mega: 272-324 (74.7 - 89%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

im so confused as to how my venasaur got one shot by a peli hurrucane

no way it was sharp beak?

252+ SpA Sharp Beak Pelipper Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Venusaur-Mega: 326-386 (89.5 - 106%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

[timber falcon]

i would say so, based off the grand champ festival

[loud bramble]

I think archaludon is just the better option

So many mons run triple axel for sash aero, and garchomps now go scaleshot

[leaden fox]

Archuladon is a beast yes, especially if you make sure to use certain setups for it; such like Water Shuriken +1 priority and hit into your own Arch for the defense boost

Believe you'd have +3 def after Water Shuriken

Well, +2 to +5 actually; I misread something xD

[loud bramble]

Wait you may be onto something

Gren also gets sludge wave no?

[leaden fox]

It does I believe

[loud bramble]

So you can kinda deal vs floette mouse

[leaden fox]

Yep, though if you do that strat, you need to make sure you go max spdef Arch

[loud bramble]

If it two shots idk

Cause then you can just protect sludge

And sludge again

[leaden fox]

^ That depends if they don't go Calm Mind or max SpDef ^

[loud bramble]

Yeah ig

But they would need heavy spdf investment

[leaden fox]

Yeah, you aren't wrong

[leaden fox]

@loud bramble Also, that is "Singles" damage rolls, not doubles 😅

[loud bramble]

Damn

I always forget to change it

[leaden fox]

doubles is 49.6% to 60.4%

[loud bramble]

Nvm then

Its guaranteed 3 hko on a 32 hp floette

[leaden fox]

Still quite strong overall

Plus, chance of Poison

if you get that Poison chance on the first hit, would reduce it's chance of surviving 3 hits with max hp

Just a shame that Assault Vest isn't in-game; or Arch would be more monstrous 😅

[loud bramble]

If only gengar got beatup

You'd do the same thing but with better damage on wave

[timber falcon]

What even happened to archaludon maus

[viscid garnet]

https://pokepast.es/86d2a09f22a58d60
this is my current team at Ultra Rank 2, i had meganium in the last slot but i’ve been trying to replace it with something that would be a fun pokemon to use that is not the main meta pokemon, mostly cause i find myself never using her over blastoise at this point

Will say i do love meganium though

[leaden fox]

This team of mine is very solid; does very well overall 🙂

In 1400s on Showdown with it

[clever root]

As much as i am fwing this team, the lack of fire type coverage for them pesky steel types is REALLY biting me

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/AgatiGa/status/2050593968207913392?s=20

Gabriel Agati (@AgatiGa)

I spent a lot of time building my GC team and in the end I locked Charizard with Dragonitite 😭

X · May 2, 2026, 3:11 PM

[leaden fox]

Oof!

[viscid garnet]

What’s a pokemon that can reliably deal with sneasler effectively?

I doubt there is one but 🤷‍♀️

[foggy lodge]

Aegislash

[viscid garnet]

Also grass types apparently 🙃 my pelipper isnt exactly the best grass counter lmfao

[pearl wind]

flame body feels so useless omg

barely activates

[timber falcon]

Why dragonite here

[timber falcon]

Do you not run hurricane?

[viscid garnet]

I do

[timber falcon]

Then that’s a pretty good answer into grass types

[clever root]

I like dragonite

and also is a decent check for garchomp

ngl the one mon that feels like they is slacking on my team atm is actually gambit

i may actually swap it out for a torkoal for a slow mode option

[dark sorrel]

is it because pelipper is slow?

[clever root]

rage powder sinistcha to make it look at smth else

[viscid garnet]

Think so

Also realized my blastoise is supposed to have dark pulse in the pokepaste lmao

[clever root]

lowkey might add hisuian typhlosion with scarf

[timber falcon]

Doesn’t garchomp also check garchomp

A convenient 1.5x speed one

[clever root]

ye but dnite is fatter

plus being immune to intim plus fake out is nice

[timber falcon]

True

[clever root]

tryna think of smth i can use that can smack steel types hard

im leaning towards scarf rotom heat

[timber falcon]

Low kick gambit

[clever root]

doesnt hit corv that hard

[timber falcon]

You have decent coverage already

Oh corv

[clever root]

my biggest counter atm is corv i feel, i somehow always MU into them too

[timber falcon]

Does it need that much attention?

I feel like you can play around it

[clever root]

sadly it does kinda eat my ass in the endgame, sits there and swallows hits

[timber falcon]

Special attacking dragonite as secondary mega

[clever root]

i run mega glimmora only, and if i dont win with glimmora, i cope

[timber falcon]

Lmao

Yeah except dragonite no other mon has the potential to hit corv as hard as you want I think

Might have to drop one

[clever root]

gambit does feel like he doesnt do much in any of my games ngl

[timber falcon]

What’s your lead

Like how do you normally play

[clever root]

usually aero + glimm/tauros/dnite depending on the scenario

[timber falcon]

Do you run no fake out at all

[clever root]

nop

[timber falcon]

Tempo seems like an immediate problem. Sash aero is easy to stop with mega Aeros out and about along with FO to get tw up first no?

Gambit can swap into smth like rotom heat tho that seems alright

I definitely think a bit of tempo control outside of TW would benefit the team

[clever root]

funnily enough, a LOT of mega aero + sneas teams are faking out into aero, but wide guard has higher prior than fake out, so i usually hit wide guard, tank the fakeout then hit mega aero with mega glimms power gem

[timber falcon]

Missed tr

[timber falcon]

Ideal countermeasure ig

[polar canyon]

Yo when a pokemon trained in champions is sent back to home, traded and used in the other persons champions does it keep the stats

[winter fox]

The streets are not ready for Mega Swampert Basculegion in doubles 🤷‍♂️

[timber falcon]

I can’t wait

Hopefully they never allow rilla to grace champions regulations

[cerulean nacelle]

No. Any stats and moves it had before get reset back to that.

[keen quiver]

my armor tail mon fainted
and then for some reason. they still fake out my inner focus mudsdale -._-.

[molten oasis]

Encore disable stuff with a9 is so good lol

[orchid gust]

this happend to my friend this guys acc got hacked

[rustic mountain]

always satisfying beating perish trap

[foggy lodge]

had someone go for double protect turn 3 of a ranked match, they didn't get it and gambit just killed gengar and they insta forfeited

why do they try to cheese the win on a 33% chance😭

[keen quiver]

how mega gengar spammers feel after clicking perish song just for it to be an Open Target and died because 2 mons targeted it

hell it get 1 tapped by 90% of pokemons that in this game

lmao
I LOVE ALLY SWITCH
I DIDNT EVEN NEED TO SETUP TRICK ROOM

i just kept attacking the right side

[molten oasis]

I think this is my new favorite thing

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2600153711

[solid frigate]

I’m Suprised you actually pick up Meow

[molten oasis]

It’s working

[solid frigate]

I mean clearly

It has some use cases

[shadow wind]

Encore disable…

[dense latch]

me watching everyone play m-a while i force myself to prep reg i

[viscid garnet]

https://pokepast.es/1f582de2693e91ee replaced my pikachu with Raichu for more bulk and speed in Ultra 2. Im not sure what I can do about Meganium’s EV spread though, otherwise, this team has been really good though. This raichu hits as hard as no EV investment light ball Pikachu, so it fulfills the same calcs as my Pika did except it does much better bulk and speed wise.

I did also replace nuzzle with upper hand to deal with priority moves like fakeout from sneasler (which is the only relevant fake out user raichu cannot outspeed)

[molten oasis]

[molten oasis]

Pretty much lmao

What duo you thinking?

[dense latch]

i’ve been loving mdb’s worlds team

first time trying out csr zama and it’s actually making me somewhat enjoy reg i

[molten oasis]

Likely the way you have to do shit lmao

Cuz that format is not fun 90% of the time

[molten oasis]

Now I know it’s evil but, at this rate, I’d rather it be evil instead of cheesy or ineffective

[keen quiver]

Competitive players try not to fake out a Inner focus mon

[shadow wind]

I remember playing a guy who only used it on reg I top ladder

Like top 10 top ladder

I hated playing against it and every other match was him

[shadow wind]

But you could be successful without being evil I promise

[left bobcat]

I love mega gren

Fast AF BOIIIIIII

[shadow wind]

Well did some yo-yoing but that just means my GXE gets to go up

But it does feel like I got my mojo back a little bit

[molten oasis]

No, I’m in my villain arc

I played happy with zacian for too long

[shadow wind]

I played happy with Groudon for not long enough 😔

[molten oasis]

lol valid

[shadow wind]

But now I’m on my Ttar arc

Mentally I’m still in reg h

[jaunty cargo]

Is there any decent way to get grassy terrain

in champions

[shadow wind]

Doubt Whimsicott learns it so probably no

[molten oasis]

I’ve been on Delphox

Me happy the mons good cuz, levitate looked like a curse at first lol

[shadow wind]

Yeah but a fire type with levitate is pretty broken

[cyan smelt]

Rotom heat isn't broken though

[keen quiver]

okay at this point

[dense latch]

lmao thats wild when that ladder was actually active

[keen quiver]

Ban bright powder.
that item is so fucking STUPID

[dense latch]

i play 200-250 elo downpairs

or against top 3 ladder

[shadow wind]

Yup

Just how she goes

I doubt he’s even still playing

[dense latch]

i still havent lost a bo1 or bo3 with csr zama so even though im not super high i feel really comfortable w it

[shadow wind]

That’s good yeah

[dense latch]

ladder is so dead it’s really hard to get good games in

[shadow wind]

I can only imagine

Jeez it really hasn’t changed Elos since I played

I remember trying for 1800

I can’t believe you’re using CSR Zama though 😔

I thought I knew you

[dense latch]

me too

desperate times and i said why not

[shadow wind]

I mean it happens

Sometimes people disregard their morals

Betray everything they ever knew

All for results

But hey man I understand it

It’s like when I had to start using raging bolt in reg g

Thought I knew who I was then all of a sudden I was clicking thunderclaps and Draco’s

[molten oasis]

Still thinking phox dies in a restricted format which blows

Idt it helps any restricteds very much

[shadow wind]

It walls Groudon

“Walls”

[molten oasis]

And metagross but like

What does it go next to

[shadow wind]

Eq primal groudon

Now we’re cooking with fire

Also why isn’t Volcarona seen anymore

That guy is still the goat

[bold geode]

Ass

[shadow wind]

🐟

[molten oasis]

Ig

[near crag]

Anyone here would be down to practice reg I in anytime in the next few days? I'm trying to lock in a team for Campinas, and would really appreciate practicing some specific matchups, like csr zam dnite, koraidon lunala, or korai cir smeargle.

[shadow wind]

I think Ttar is actually my second favourite Mon of all time

[molten oasis]

Delphox hit my top 3 lol

It be zacian a9 and phox now

[shadow wind]

High horsepower missed Sneasler 🤧🤧🤧

Same feeling as Pblades missing Miraidon

It’s like I’m still using Groudon ❤️

Also I just realized a pro to playing on mobile

You can’t see your opponents elo

[quick reef]

Any of yall have thoughts on mega metacham in doubles? Ive been trying to force a team with either him or mega gallade and it hasnt been working well. Im in masterball tierin singles and doubles and its just all the same teams with fast tailing ghost types

[molten oasis]

?

[shadow wind]

On desktop you can hover your opponent to see their elo

Can’t do that on mobile

[molten oasis]

Ah

[shadow wind]

Honestly it’s more a mental thing but it definitely impacts how I play

Ttar just took 50 from a +1 Zard x dclaw

Ttar is my hero

[cerulean nacelle]

Both being weak to aerodactyls flying stab and not particularly doing anything better than the dominant megas in the format isn't really a good sign.

They both can hit hard, but also don't have amazing psychic stabs. Zen headbutt is inaccurate and risky. Also mega gallade despite its strengths doesn't hit as hard as you'd think due to inner focus only really being a defensive ability.

There's also the fact that mega floette is a big threat and can likely OHKO both megas. Which isn't a good sign.

I love both megas. They're both really cool.

But if you want a huge power user, use mega starmie who's faster and less frail.

And if you want a good physically offensive fighting type, sneasler already has you covered. There isn't really a need to double up.

I like using off-meta megas. Mega camerupt has been really fun as has mega gyarados. But those fulfil certain niches like TR or dragon dance sweeping while making gyarados immune to prankster etc.

[next dust]

I'm liking Lucario rain personally

[timber falcon]

are there any balance cores currently

like fwg

[shadow wind]

Fantasy core is extremely common right now

Like pretty much every single team has one

[timber falcon]

thats true i actually didnt notice that

[shadow wind]

FWG core honestly is a suggestion right now

[timber falcon]

i think its the grass types holding it back. We kinda lack non-mega grass types that are even somewhat offensively threatening

[cyan smelt]

Doesn't help that sneasler is everywhere

Meowscarada can be promising

[dense latch]

fwg is better for defensive synergy anyways

[timber falcon]

ive seen a few scarf meowscarada

[dense latch]

sinistcha is really good

[timber falcon]

yah but i got really comfortable with grassy terrain wood hammer yk

[shadow wind]

Guy is hard stuck 1700s😭😭😭

Gg

Never seeing the 1800s

[shadow wind]

Ding ding ding

[cyan smelt]

82.5% gxe wow

[shadow wind]

Fantasy core is definitely more offensive

[shadow wind]

Yes please be distracted by that and don’t pay attention to mine

[timber falcon]

im still tryna crawl out of 1500 lol

[shadow wind]

My gxe got tanked when I was going for rank 1 🤧🤧🤧

[cyan smelt]

It's ok i know you were messing around with different teams

[dense latch]

gxe doesnt matter dont worry

[shadow wind]

But as I’ve been yo yoing it’s been slowly improving

[dense latch]

unless your gxe is high then it matters a lot

[shadow wind]

But it looks ugly when it’s below 70

My standards for myself are 70s

[dense latch]

my m-a gxe is pretty bad i think

[shadow wind]

But also for never playing a mega format I think I’m doing around what I should be doing

[dense latch]

but reg i is 78.8 which is pretty cool

[shadow wind]

And usually I’m god awful without my goat

[shadow wind]

Holy smokes

I think my reg I is like 74 or something

[cyan smelt]

I need to ladder more on showdown but i'm mid

[shadow wind]

Might be lower

[shadow wind]

Who cares as long as you aren’t just tilt queueing it’s chill

Tilt queuing needs to be studied

[cyan smelt]

Learning to not

[dense latch]

my tilt queues this reg have been insane

[shadow wind]

Sleep study on how much I hate myself after dropping 200 elo

[dense latch]

i think it's easier for me to switch to reg i bc i was having some of the worst luck of my life in m-a

[shadow wind]

Reg I, known for 0 luck

[dense latch]

it's been better now

[shadow wind]

Well that’s good

Bad luck really can ruin a team

[dense latch]

i tried out smeargle for a bit but it kept getting speed drops when i needed boosts and speed boosts the very turn i set trick room

[shadow wind]

On my current team I can only miss 4 moves

[dense latch]

had a much better time with csr zama than with cir korai

[shadow wind]

And 2 of those are rock slide

[dense latch]

i've got two

power whip rockpon and ruination pao

[shadow wind]

And those 2 at least usually have safer clicks anyway

[dense latch]

ruination body press combos ❤️

dnite is also so fun

[shadow wind]

Paonite is peak

But I really hate playing against the mdb team

[dense latch]

i love having an endgame checkmater (?)

if that makes sense

[shadow wind]

Sweeper?

[dense latch]

having something in the back that can just guarantee the win

[shadow wind]

Yeah not sure if there’s a real term for that outside of sweeper/pin

[dense latch]

yea basically a late game sweeper

[shadow wind]

Have you ran into any Groudons?

[dense latch]

i think one

let me check

two actually

[shadow wind]

Who was the other restricted?

On both

[dense latch]

lunala and dawn wings

[shadow wind]

😔

My impact must not have been enough

I was Groudon Miraidons strongest soldier it appears

[foggy lodge]

that combo is crazy

nothing lives the double up lmao

[shadow wind]

Electric seed Volc ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[dense latch]

i think im commited to this team

[shadow wind]

I think Volc gotta be a top 5 Mon for me

[dense latch]

im probably gonna get the mons i can get for now ready

[shadow wind]

It’s a good feeling to have a committed team

[foggy lodge]

If you need a mon send me a dm and ill get you them rq

[dense latch]

also maxi i forgot to ask if u meant zama or bolt that one time a day or two ago

[shadow wind]

Like a shiny csr that I totally have

[dense latch]

regardless tysm

[foggy lodge]

i can give you both

[timber falcon]

what kind of role would kangaskhan fit in a team

[shadow wind]

Bulky support + priority usually

He does damage but is better as a supporting actor

[dense latch]

i'll let you know when im getting everything ready, tyty

[gentle crag]

eriksp has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[timber falcon]

is FO enough to be regarded as support?

[shadow wind]

When it’s scrappy yeah

[foggy lodge]

She*

[shadow wind]

Sorry

[foggy lodge]

i wonder if the kid is a he or a she too

[shadow wind]

Gotta be a she

[foggy lodge]

Probably

[mighty stump]

yo mama

[timber falcon]

shouldve stayed retired

[mighty stump]

do FO Last Resort

[timber falcon]

the wolfe thing?

[shadow wind]

The Wolfe thing 😭😭😭😭

[foggy lodge]

Did Wolfey popularize that fucking thing

[dense latch]

if you're doing base kanga

[timber falcon]

but then how would i mega evolve

[foggy lodge]

Im going to kill Wolfey

[shadow wind]

That set has been around for ages

[timber falcon]

oh i should specify its mega

[shadow wind]

That set was used in BDSP

Don’t worry it’s been around

[foggy lodge]

Cybertron popularizing that Mega Venusaur Archaludon Sableye team is his reveng for not being able to register for NAIC

[shadow wind]

Triple ghost 🔥🔥🔥

[timber falcon]

cause im watching a vid on "roles", yet Kangaskhan stats make it a but of a hybrid in a way

[dense latch]

i hate sableye so much

[shadow wind]

Roles, archetypes, synergy

All these things mean nothing

[dense latch]

next to jumpluff prob my least fav comp mon

[shadow wind]

Actually synergy is real

But the other 2 are just titles and labels

[timber falcon]

Isn’t weather an archetype

[shadow wind]

Genuinely it does not matter how you structure your team around the made up labels

[mighty stump]

No

[shadow wind]

Every team is different and every team needs different stuff

[mighty stump]

Its been a thing

its n OG set

[shadow wind]

A team with weather on it doesn’t have to be a weather team

[mighty stump]

Archetypes and labels just put words to concepts for discussion purposes

[shadow wind]

Exactly

[timber falcon]

Oh?

[mighty stump]

The one thing I practically cannot teach is conceptual thinking since I simply don’t have the words for it

[shadow wind]

A team with Zard Y and 5 water types isn’t a “Sun team”

[mighty stump]

Once you sorta stop adhering to too rigid of a structure you kinda open up things a lot more

[shadow wind]

It’s a team with sun on it

[mighty stump]

Modes or whatever

[shadow wind]

Bar for bar what I’ve been on about

[timber falcon]

So I should just ball it

[foggy lodge]

nah i know but when wolfey or cybertron upload a video about a team suddenly everyone is using it

[shadow wind]

Just turn the swag to the max and ball out

[mighty stump]

Now, this doesn’t mean you can forego the information that stems from archetypes/labels cuz it provides some degree of structure but you just gotta ball it sometimes if you have a concept you’re confident about

Cuz at the end of the day its still all fundamental

[foggy lodge]

so out of nowhere i started fighting those kangaskhan and i assumed wolfey made a video with it lmao

[mighty stump]

but once you know the system you break it

[mighty stump]

yeah i get it

[shadow wind]

Lowkey a valid assumption

[mighty stump]

The Cybertron effect

tbh

im glad he made the screens teams

[shadow wind]

Dude these Wolfey videos are killing me

[mighty stump]

ITS FREELO FOR MY RAIN TEAM LOL

[shadow wind]

“I made a crazy mega Chandelure team” has 5 mons with like 30% usage 😭😭😭

Son you ain’t make nothin new

[foggy lodge]

lmao

i liked his delphox team

He had Clefable on it

[shadow wind]

Sneasler AND Basculegion??? Holy moly we’re getting a bit crazy in the builder today aren’t we

Garchomp next to an Aerodactyl?? This guy might be the second coming of Ray Rizzo

[timber falcon]

Do cores matter?

[shadow wind]

Yeah

But it’s more synergy than core imo

Fantasy cores exist but fundamentally their just offensive synergies that go well together

[mighty stump]

i was gonna make a fucking meme team and my natural adjustments turned it into Talon and friends

[shadow wind]

Same with a FWG core

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/016d4f64ab4815c7

Lmao

Yes that is max speed Kingambit

[shadow wind]

Feel like I played this earlier

At least something extremely similar

[timber falcon]

Same especially the upper hand talon flame

[shadow wind]

Chomp talon Glimm sylv

I mean I have no prio on my team so I didn’t see

[timber falcon]

They upper handed into my farig anyways

[shadow wind]

They clicked tw then ate a rock slide to the face and died

[foggy lodge]

sorry conne i tomato reacted you by accident

[shadow wind]

A valiant sacrifice was made by Excadrill 🫡🫡🫡

[shadow wind]

😧

[timber falcon]

How does fantasy core hit steel tho, I thought it would be more of a defensive core

[shadow wind]

Garchomp is the dragon in 99% of fantasy cores right now

[timber falcon]

But for arguments sake let’s say I’m using dragonite

A 4th to cover for it?

[shadow wind]

Dragonite Floette Archaludon

Fantasy core yes, but it can struggle into opposing steel types

I’m using those 3 just cause I’ve seen them on rain before

Which is why Sneasler is incredibly popular with those sorts of teams

Or a bascu to just explode the steel types

I’ve even seen mega Dnite run flamethrower on a rain team

[timber falcon]

without fwg and fantasy, what would a core like this be?

I’ve been trying to wrap my head around it as practice since the tournament

[foggy lodge]

iwanttoexplodeeverythingwithsunortrickroom core

[timber falcon]

But the only thing I’ve gained is -200 elo

[shadow wind]

Honestly every time you’ve showed that team I have zero clue what their goal is

The prim doesn’t make sense there’s no speed control outside of tr

[timber falcon]

I’m losing it tryna figure it out

[foggy lodge]

its a really weird team but it was made by a japanese player

[shadow wind]

Why not just play a different team?

[shadow wind]

That explains it then

[foggy lodge]

True

[shadow wind]

They get freaky in the team builder

[mighty stump]

trick room damage spam yolo

[timber falcon]

Well this is the only Kang team that got top 50 in the grand champ tournament on limitless (top 8) and since I wanted to run Kang I thought its be interesting to see how a probably good player would use it

[foggy lodge]

I don't think its a bad team but it's clearly one of those only the builder can pilot team

[shadow wind]

Many such cases

[timber falcon]

Oh

[shadow wind]

It looks like you pretty much have to play tr every game

[mighty stump]

i feel like thats how most of my teams works

[shadow wind]

My teams used to be like that

But I think I’m getting better at building real coherent teams

[timber falcon]

How’d you get better?

[shadow wind]

Working with other people was how I finally figured it out

Sometimes the boring solution is the correct one

Not every team needs a Ariados

No shade to Maya she’s doing great with it

But sometimes you just need to hear a voice of reason on team building

I also only ever built my own teams and you get progressively better at team building by doing it a lot

Lot of slop in the builder before you strike gold

[timber falcon]

Alright

I think I get it

[shadow wind]

And obviously everyone learns differently

Most people do find successful teams and play around with them to see what makes the good

That’s something I wish I did more but I was too stubborn

Lowkey still am but that’s besides the point

[timber falcon]

I feel like I always do better with a team that I made personally though, even if it ends up flopping

[shadow wind]

Vibes are a big part of doing well with a team

[mighty stump]

Comfort is king

[shadow wind]

And usually you find how you like to play when building for yourself

[mighty stump]

Also

Even personally built teams require you to collect a lot of information with it

You’ll need to play and trial and error and gather info about how things interact

I will sometimes lead the same thing over and over again and see how it plays out

Doing scrims is a faster way of doing that

[timber falcon]

Do you make mental notes or write them down somewhere about these interactions?

[mighty stump]

Knowing what works where and why the team is built for what matchup is usually the key

[mighty stump]

Mine is mental lol

But you can write them down

Whatever workd

[timber falcon]

I think I will for a bit

[foggy lodge]

My goal is to make a team that impacts a metagame someday

[mighty stump]

Having a set plan is always helpful

always

[mighty stump]

Mood

[foggy lodge]

I love seeing japanese teams cuz they hit the meta game like a meteor

[mighty stump]

The small impact i can make is just to help and provide teams but none of them really make a splash

but i have fun anw

[mighty stump]

right

everytime i think im wack theyre more wack and im wow

im outwacked

[foggy lodge]

https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/69c30ae236f5b5c303dbce1c/player/megaumbreonvgc/teamlist

The team that got second at the GCF was UB Slow's team for example

[mighty stump]

omg i love this team cuz it gave me freelo

by facing it

[foggy lodge]

Lmao

[mighty stump]

they always lead Froslass and Sneasler

and im like

Thanks freelo

[shadow wind]

God forbid I be 1 spot higher

But Maxi this goes to show the team is indeed flames

[foggy lodge]

ok but

[shadow wind]

The tr mu is honestly so free

[foggy lodge]

67% GXE > top 100

[shadow wind]

Gulp

Don’t look at my GXE

I swear it’s not accurate

I had like 400 games on the account before we started making the team

Also how did we not think of putting Volc next to Ttar sooner

I swear I did that in like Reg F1 in sv

[foggy lodge]

Lmao

[mighty stump]

L GXE!!!!

[foggy lodge]

I have to play the team

Im not at my house these days

[shadow wind]

I swear it’s from when I was going for rank 1 😭😭😭

Yo-yoing at 1500s is a sure fire way to tank your GXE

Lowkey should’ve just won that game

My GXE would’ve been flames

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/97b22db7c8290c3d after wracking my thoughts together ive come up with this idea

[shadow wind]

So beautiful I could cry

[timber falcon]

if only it said 70