competitive_discussion

[leaden fox]

Decisions, decisions honestly

[timber falcon]

Mega drampa as a tr deterrent seems like kind of an extreme solution

[copper geyser]

Scizor in rain sounds good tbh?
lowers its only weakness to x2 from x4 and doesn't hinder it in any way
bullet punch is great for eternal floette and such

[leaden fox]

Yeah, just have to watch out for that since Sun is popular still, especially Char Y

[spark siren]

Is this a good doubles build for Aegislash:
Wide Guard
King’s Shield
Iron Head
Poltergeist

[leaden fox]

It might be; I haven't used Aegislash in Doubles properly since X/Y

[dense latch]

yea it’s pretty standard

shadow sneak over wide guard is also an option

[spark siren]

i chose wide guard to help protect my team from rock slide, earthquake, etc

[leaden fox]

Ok, trying Scizor atm; hasn't seen battle yet xD

[chrome knot]

sacred sword aegislash gaming

whyd my message get deleted wat

o what is goig on LOL

[leaden fox]

Hm, beginning to wonder if I need to have a second Mega or not atm xD

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2595669349-bk2ephwc8yi8wwqaxnmd1bcx1ywsbe9pw
When you know what your opponent is planning xP

Honestly considering putting Kingambit in now instead of double Mega xD

[bold geode]

I heard from someone that I THINK the server went fucky wucky

[leaden fox]

Can happen from time to time

Thoughts on my team now?

[foggy lodge]

Whats the point of quick claw

[lost sun]

to win off of luck

[leaden fox]

to outspeed that dang common Aerodactyl xD

[foggy lodge]

Give it a real item

[lost sun]

only works like 20% of the time

[foggy lodge]

10% xd

[leaden fox]

AV isn't in the game xD

[lost sun]

damn it's worse than I thought

[foggy lodge]

Can perfectly never activate in a whole bo3

[lost sun]

resist berry

[foggy lodge]

Dragon fang

[lost sun]

maybe a magnet to boost eshot

[leaden fox]

Heck, I'd even take Wide Lens if it was in the game xD

[foggy lodge]

Why are you calm sturdy??

[lost sun]

also u might want scarf on basc

[leaden fox]

Ah, forgot to change Nature xD

[chrome knot]

leftovers dawg

god arch item

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but in the paste it was sturdy

[lost sun]

leftovers could bring sturdy back

[foggy lodge]

After 15 turns

[leaden fox]

If Leftovers recovered 50% of it's HP over two turns xD

[chrome knot]

stamina is king

[lost sun]

I mean from smth like fakeout

stamina better anyway

[cerulean nacelle]

I lost one of my games to a crit.

Honestly ggs to the guy he played well.

But yeah I lost the game all because a -1 attack sash basculegion got a crit aqua jet into my aerodactyl

And the crit really mattered.

[leaden fox]

Ok, this team of mine is working the way I want now 🙂

[cerulean nacelle]

Good for you dude! Mine is not lmao. I'm struggling.

[leaden fox]

Yeah, just trying to make sure I build my team, get the right calcs and such

[cerulean nacelle]

I ran into a team with farigiraf and their maushold had pop bomb which shredded my plans. Bit annoying.

Seems like all the teams I'm running into are annoying anti-meta. And it's decimating my plans.

Went from MR2 to MR3 in 3 games.

Very sadge

[cerulean nacelle]

Ok so aggron just hard walls my team

that is a no go, luckily mega aggron teams arent that common

I do think mega gyarados and mega aerodactyl is a pretty goated pairing.

the fact that either or can use mega and not really care is very strong.

Like this is my first time being at 2000 ELO

I lost a few but a lot of em i felt like i had a pretty good gameplan. Even perishtrap, i had a general idea of what I wanted to do.

[winter fox]

We really do need open team sheets or at least a summary menu of opponents teams

[real prairie]

What you mean a summary menu? You can look through your opponents mons on the Pokémon screen in battle.

Ladder will likely never be OTS though

But a Bo3 mode would be a good idea

[winter fox]

Like what items/moves they have when preparing for a match. How Showdown does.

[real prairie]

That's only for OTS though

[lost sun]

wish they did add an ots mode

[winter fox]

That's what I'm saying 💀

OTS for ranked would be a god send

[sudden remnant]

chat chat i got silverwolf and her lightcone (i know some people here play hsr i just dont remember who)

[sudden remnant]

im swapping hisuian zoroark for sneasler and im giving whimsicott taunt

zoroark has just become my hawlucha shenanigans counter and whim can easily do that with prankster taunt

[cerulean nacelle]

It is not my day to win at this game

All the way down to 1880 ELO.

Everyone was on some random shit with either sableye or fucking araquanid for some reason.

I ran into araquanid 3 fuckin times. At this point I do not care. I made master rank. I'm calling it ngl.

[sudden remnant]

MY GOAT

[real prairie]

Finally built a team that's very me, on a win streak with it

Might drop power whip for trop kick though, the idea of missing is scaring me 🤣

[sudden remnant]

trop kick smacks now that they buffed it

[next stump]

have you considered low kick on tsareena? i played against one in the skraw tournament and its very good into sand teams

[sudden remnant]

isnt trop kick also inaccurate

[sudden remnant]

oh i thought it was like 95 accurate

[sudden remnant]

it also does respectable damage to kingambit

quad weak to it and is just heavy enough for it to hurt

[keen quiver]

wellp looks like i know whats getting nerfed.

Umbreon yawn stall lol

[sudden remnant]

hasnt been nerfed since it got yawn back in ancient times

[foggy lodge]

Sleep is already nerfed

[sudden remnant]

umbreon is still goated

and smacks some of the popular megas rn really hard

[keen quiver]

the moment they adjust the rank single to 6v6
they might have to get ready for some stall nerfs

[foggy lodge]

idt ranks is becoming 6v6 since battle spot in game has always been 3v3

[keen quiver]

idk why they never do 6v6
makes single much more enjoyable if they fucking listen

[cerulean nacelle]

I'd respect it more if I didn't see araquanid every 5 seconds lmao.

Was doing really well with a 4 win streak and everything. And just lost it all.

[real prairie]

Is an option, zen headbutt won me a game against Mega Gengar but tbh low kick probably has more usability

[stuck perch]

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[next stump]

i know i’m getting old when i know like 2 of those names

[sudden remnant]

its a good counter into a lot of relevant pokemon

[sudden remnant]

i know 0 of them

[rustic mountain]

another shiny male basc and kingambit acquired man basc is an annoying one

[molten oasis]

How are you hunting it?

Basc

[rustic mountain]

i already did it, pla

i tried sv but the outbreak is ridiculously hard to get seemingly

[stuck perch]

Ik Glitch, Arlie and Diana

[keen quiver]

hmm they should adjust it where Leech seed goes away if the user who has that move faints

[dense latch]

ik sunnie and glitch from those

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/wh-gif-4365587

[stuck perch]

Lmaooo

[sudden remnant]

true

[cerulean nacelle]

Honestly I'm so done rn lmao.

I've had so many bad rng matches and it seems like my team cannot handle aegislash very well which is a slight issue.

I might honestly just sit at master rank 3 now. This has been rather disheartening. Even matches I should've won I lost because RNG.

The last one I got majorly screwed over because of a dire claw paralysis.

[spark siren]

Any suggestions for improving my second doubles team? Looking for a final team member to add to

[wheat rapids]

can anyone recommend more partners for this core? (flash fire ceru)

[cerulean nacelle]

I would say sneasler. I think fake out coverage is always good. And I actually lost to a coaching sneasler into a scizor team.

[wheat rapids]

smart yeah, prob a good idea

2 more 👀 lowkey thinking some redirect like sinistcha or maushold?

[cerulean nacelle]

Sinistcha to heal the scizor, redirect and even reverse TR is good probably.

[wheat rapids]

thoughts on this core? any glaring weaknesses?

if speed isnt needed, can bring ninetales for aveil to allow for easier swords dances, fake out also gives swords dances, grass ice and bug/steel bait flash fire, aero can threaten tailwinds (maybe not needed)

i think i have answers into gambit, basc, chomp... maybe weak to incin

might be a rotom wash angle

[dense latch]

i’d try milotic over ninetales

[wheat rapids]

milo on my other team already

[cerulean nacelle]

Milotic would give you a fire water grass core.

[wheat rapids]

tryna mix it up lol

i feel like rotom wash gives me the water i want while also giving a ground immunity which i think i need

could also get whimsicott in there

[dense latch]

with aero there already it seems unnecessary

[cerulean nacelle]

You could maybe do scarf rotom. Scarf eweb I feel like is underrated.

Even though I've lost a couple games I loved having scarf rotom threaten speed control.

[wheat rapids]

would be replacing aero

[dense latch]

another fire weakness too unless you drop one of the existing ones

so u just insta lose to zard y

[wheat rapids]

yeah thats what i was thinking, icy wind and electro web

ceru walls zard y which is kinda the point

[dense latch]

that’s not enough imo

[cerulean nacelle]

Your angle to deal with zard Y would be ceru + washtom

[wheat rapids]

yer

[cerulean nacelle]

Which is a bit lackluster.

[wheat rapids]

mabes

i kinda wanna see if this'll work just for funsies, i already have my other main team i hit MB with

what about dino team

[lavish frost]

is venusaur a dino

I thought people labeled it a frog

[wheat rapids]

looks pretty prehistoric with the flower

i mean homie's name is venuSAUR

[cerulean nacelle]

It has saur in the name. So it's a frog dinosaur ig.

Now garchomp is technically where we start getting a little less dinosaur-y

[cerulean nacelle]

Don't be a wuss, RUN AURORA VEIL AURORUS!!!

[timber falcon]

I’ve just had someone concede because they assumed my garchomp would be faster than theirs?

Or is there a garchomp that runs min speed

[cerulean nacelle]

They might have been bulky chomp or potentially they thought u were scarfed?

[timber falcon]

I have 13 points in speed and whoever moved firstt would win

They were sitrus berry and hella bulky TBF

[cerulean nacelle]

Never doubt the power of the opponent overthinking themselves out of a win.

[timber falcon]

Like if they just clicked claw and prayed they had a chance

I’ll take the win tho ig

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah it ain't really a lose situation for you lol

I legit got so mad today that I've quit for now.

[timber falcon]

Bad rng?

[cerulean nacelle]

Multiple rock slide and dual wingbeat misses that would've either helped my advantage or won me games.

I lost 2 games to a bright powder miss.

My mega gyarados got paralysed by dire claw then undersped the one thing I needed it to outspeed.

And i for some reason seem to run into araquanid and aegislash and aegislash does eat my team alive.

Which was an oversight in my team building unfortunately.

[timber falcon]

A few games ago I ended up missing 3 dual wing bats and lost the game. Aerodactyl do be like that sometimes

[timber falcon]

Araquanid?

[cerulean nacelle]

It's OK when it happens in a game or 2.

This was back to back.

[cerulean nacelle]

Yup. I kid you not. TR araquanid.

[timber falcon]

That’s tough damn

[cerulean nacelle]

Ran into it 4 times.

[timber falcon]

Yeah you take that break 😭

[cerulean nacelle]

Idk how I ran into

A: so much bad RNG
B: That random bullshit

But yeah there goes my elo. I am now master rank 3 lol

[timber falcon]

Same as me now

[cerulean nacelle]

I am thinking about fucking with mega zard X now.

For shits n giggles at this point.

[timber falcon]

It looks really fun tbh

[cerulean nacelle]

Tough claws boosted d claw and flare blitz after a d dance do go brrr

And honestly... I think the lower usage of incin gives it more of a niche.

[timber falcon]

With sinistcha and milotic to heal

Went against a zard X today and the cycling was hell to deal with

Constantly healing and then being in threat of OHKO

[cerulean nacelle]

Yup. That sounds about right

I also kinda wanna be a dick with hypnosis milotic and gravity sableye.

[wheat rapids]

i had aurorus on it actually but replaced with aero 🤣

i love both mons tho, if they were easier to shiny hunt id prob do it

[wheat rapids]

i was actually thinking of doing that with alolan ninetales lol

[dry nexus]

is minus speed nature mega garchomp in a trick room a decent idea?

[wheat rapids]

could be yep. just watch out for mega crabominable 🤣

[winter fox]

I forgot I had max speed on my Blastoise with this Trick Room team. 🙂

And then I also forgot Mega Blastoise has Mega Launcher not Rain Dish so I kept wondering why my HP wasn't being restored while it was raining.

[graceful scaffold]

has anyone here faced each other randomly yet

[cyan smelt]

How's ttar going meme

[graceful scaffold]

goodsk

might make it to mb after this game

very unoptimized coz i made it myself lmao

i can show u the stats with the rental code thing right?

rain still the worst MU lmao im just badge

i lost lol

[cyan smelt]

Yeah show the stats and moves etc

[graceful scaffold]

Rate it on a scale of verlisify to 10 for my first team :3

[cyan smelt]

Looks pretty good, i can see farig being good for preventing sucker punches and aqua jets

[graceful scaffold]

mostly for sneasel, wont work as well once i get to MB tier hahah

[graceful scaffold]

is it the worst team youve seen tho

[cyan smelt]

No it's not terrible, a lot of the ones in 1000s on showdown are really bad

[graceful scaffold]

choosing mons im better at than doing EVs lol i kinda understand synergy more than EVing so far

[cyan smelt]

me too

having complementary types to switch into attacks is really helpful

and being able to eq safely next to delphox must be nice

[graceful scaffold]

ye, was dillons advice to add i think and its been great, still weak to rain no matter what i do tho lol i hate arch and basc and sneasel

[cyan smelt]

yeah that fish is broken

i can't wait til golbat is back, it will spell the end for sneasler

i mean crobat

[wheat rapids]

guys

how did my ttar "evade" scald

oh nvm muddy water acc drop duh 🤦‍♂️

[cyan smelt]

bright powder?

[wheat rapids]

nah chomp's holding the coke 😂

[red willow]

Now I kinda see why the people like froslass

That blizzard do be hittin kinda hard

[cyan smelt]

140 sp attack isn't it?

[red willow]

Mega yeah

And snow boost and full investment for more unga bunga

We should get a rain mega tho tbf

Tatsugiri is the only possibility tho I think and idk about it haha

[cyan smelt]

Probably rubbish, but having to fight mega tatsu after dealing with dozo doesn't sound fun

[red willow]

Yee its prolly just more dozo gimmick as its ability lol

[stuck perch]

Is making good unpredictable team worth it lol?

[wheat rapids]

mega tatsugiri ability: General (same as commander except instead of an omniboost, its that + mega dozo transformation 💀 )

[wheat rapids]

if not doing OTS, sure

[fringe fossil]

is anyone else having issues getting on to showdown rn?

[wheat rapids]

yep

[fringe fossil]

damn

[wheat rapids]

prob down

gg

[rustic mountain]

yeh its down

[cyan smelt]

it's been down for about an hour

[shadow wind]

Tree what are your thoughts on Tsareena

[real prairie]

I know absolutely none of them

[real prairie]

Im not tree but im running her lol

[cyan smelt]

Impossible to know what's running scarf these days lol

[real prairie]

it surprise attacks sneasler or Aero

[cyan smelt]

goodbye main attacking staples

surprised no basc on your team, basc hates sucker punch

[shadow wind]

Pollen puff on Floette sure is a choice

[real prairie]

just realised leading floette with tsareena protects tsareena from intim drops

[real prairie]

i forgot i did that lol, that was supposed to be for bulky arch but im running sturdy arch now 🤣

just missed 2 zen headbutts in a row...

[cyan smelt]

glup

the price of inaccurate moves

[real prairie]

still won, somehow

[shadow wind]

Some guy on the ladder just said my team building is boring

I have a pidgeot on my team 😭😭😭

Like what are we talking about

Bro had a Garchomp a Kingambit AND a basculegion

And my team is the boring one

The nerve of some people

[cyan smelt]

the salt

[real prairie]

Overkill of a +4 electroshot at 1% 🤣

[cyan smelt]

i noticed they got rid of belly drum from slurpuff's moveset so it can no longer do belly drum drain punch and i don't think anything has cotton guard and body press either

[real prairie]

I swear this game has selective matchmaking based on your team's, when I used a balance team I'm fighting nothing but mirrors, I make a fun anti meta team and all I'm facing is the most fandom selection of mons

I also dropped Incin after this game for Rotom Heat

[cyan smelt]

til that toucannon is in the game

[real prairie]

led with it too

its move is kinda cool, starts at the beginning of the turn and procts burns

[cyan smelt]

scovillain at home

[real prairie]

Title to match my age

[cerulean nacelle]

102 speed is rather high.

[cerulean nacelle]

Man i didn't know you helped out animals! Oh wait... XD

[real prairie]

That's @mighty stump

[cerulean nacelle]

Nah I don't think id feed a sick animal tofu... doesn't seem right

[cerulean nacelle]

it is time... for me to try and cook with zard X

[dry nexus]

the mega has 92 base speed, which is still kinda high

that's why I'm doubting on it because it might still be decently fast even at minus speed nature

[cyan smelt]

that's way faster than crab and blastoise

[dry nexus]

and even if I go tailwind that really means nothing when most people run tailwind as well

[cyan smelt]

i think mega chomp is strictly worse than base

[dry nexus]

because of the speed issue

but this guy might be a beast under sand because of sand force and the absurd 170 attack

[cerulean nacelle]

the mega also is pretty sucky

wasting ur mega on that when theres pokemon that immediately output more damage and aren't reliant on a weather condition is just strictly worse.

[cyan smelt]

it's worse than base excadrill basically

[cerulean nacelle]

its worse than a lot of trick room megas, including but not limited to, crabominable, drampa, camerupt, golurk etc

[dry nexus]

I did give trick room mega camerupt a shot

[cerulean nacelle]

Heck gardevoir who is still baswe 100 speed is still a better TR mon thanks to having a very strong spread move in pixilate hyper voice that you don't need to plan around as carefully as something like EQ. Its more readily available and offensive.

[dry nexus]

I'll give my garchomp idea a few games then I'll move on figuring out how I can use mega gallade

[cerulean nacelle]

I think TR mega camerupt has a lot of potential.

Powerful eruption potential and even ignoring that there is sheer force boosted heat wave and earth power

[cyan smelt]

what do you think about mega gallade

[cerulean nacelle]

in singles, probably quite decent. In doubles, hes a weee bit gimmicky.

Inner focus is a very lackluster ability, meaning youre usually reliant on SD for more damage.

[cyan smelt]

i also don't rate mega lucario

[dry nexus]

oh man, singles people scares me because they're unhinged

[cerulean nacelle]

... I am originally a singles player lol

[cyan smelt]

i play randbats sometimes, shit's hard

but it gets me used to unpredictable sets in vgc

and gets me comfortable with the idea of switching out of bad matchups

[dry nexus]

I was 1820's in singles then I straight up met unhinged people after the next

I'm scared of touching it again

[cyan smelt]

there can be some pretty evil strats in vgc too

[dry nexus]

me in double restricted back in SwSh

[cyan smelt]

swsh was fun, can't wait til they bring back gorsola

[dry nexus]

letting kyogre and shadow calyrex be on the same team is a mistake

[cyan smelt]

you know what i used in swsh, guard split shuckle next to stockpile guzzlord

[dry nexus]

this guy was my favorite in that gen

[cyan smelt]

can't believe zard got two megas and a gmax

[dry nexus]

inflicting status on both pokemon in one move shouldn't be a thing

[cerulean nacelle]

lmao reminds me of those people that did guard split shuckle next to minimize chansey

[cyan smelt]

it was inspired by that actually

but i didn't like being walled by ghosts so guzzlord it was

[chrome knot]

not that strong of a combo ?

[dry nexus]

I don't bring both at once tho

[cyan smelt]

caly-i and kyogre is ridiculous though

[shadow wind]

Kyogre and Calyrex shadow rider vs a single mon with Av and snarl 😭😭😭

Ggs

[dry nexus]

I had a straight forward plan, always start with butterfree and tornadus

[shadow wind]

Thank you Miraidon for always being there for me

[cyan smelt]

zama was my goat in gen 9

[dry nexus]

butterfree is there to chip and inflict status then have one of the two start sweeping

[cerulean nacelle]

I don't think I've ever used anything inherently evil.

[cyan smelt]

i used to have a preference for stally stuff but then i found i prefer balance

[shadow wind]

I hated that guy until Volcarona appeared in the builder

[chrome knot]

or miraidon

[shadow wind]

Real

[dry nexus]

people in singles were so scared of zacian but a simple dead coral makes that dog fold

[shadow wind]

Then the covert cloaks hit the builder

Scary stuff I tell ya

Calm mind covert cloak CSR

Sends chills down my spine

[chrome knot]

i love that set

[cyan smelt]

kang makes caly-s trivial now

[chrome knot]

i ran 36 modest & full bulk

[shadow wind]

Trivial this guy says

[cyan smelt]

the calys are a lot less scary without tera

[shadow wind]

I remember I ran into a 252 bold CSR once

[chrome knot]

LOL

literally me guy

[shadow wind]

Tera fire heat crash did like 85

I was not impressed

[shadow wind]

And the astral barrage nerf

God I hated Tera

[chrome knot]

zamazenta stocks go up

[cyan smelt]

well that had to come after the glacial lance nerf

[chrome knot]

we cannot tera to ghost

glacial lance is still 120

[shadow wind]

And the make it rain nerf 🔥🔥🔥

[chrome knot]

mir nerf is stupid lmfao

[cyan smelt]

damn my goat gholdengo is washed

[shadow wind]

Wait how’d he get nerfed?

I haven’t seen that one actually

[chrome knot]

0 reason to drop the accuracy on mir

[shadow wind]

Did electro drift get an acc drop???

[cyan smelt]

gravity MIR incoming

[chrome knot]

no bruh

[shadow wind]

Holy I’m slow

[chrome knot]

make it rain

[shadow wind]

Yeah just clocked that

[chrome knot]

im a teddybear i cannot type 2 hands rn

[shadow wind]

I was worried something happened to my goat

And it’s like obviously a nerfed move now

[cyan smelt]

do they ever nerf something the gen after it's introduced?

[shadow wind]

95% accuracy

[cyan smelt]

like legendary

[shadow wind]

Might as well have kept it 100

[chrome knot]

he cant tera out of fairy weak anymore

[cyan smelt]

koraidon is washed now, no more tera fire flare blitz

[shadow wind]

Directly I don’t think so

[chrome knot]

which also means everyone fucking dies now bc u can’t tera to resist

300% rillaboom usage in restricted u literally have to

[shadow wind]

I like my type charts

[cerulean nacelle]

Didn't mega kang get nerfed the gen after its release?

[shadow wind]

Oh parental bond yeah

[cyan smelt]

yeah but that's not a legendary

it's only legendary to me

[shadow wind]

So like Restricteds pretty much?

[cyan smelt]

yep

[shadow wind]

Oh actually the urshifus got nerfed

[cyan smelt]

oh wait zacian got the nerf in gen 9

[shadow wind]

And grassy glide

Yea and the initial CIR nerf

Glacial Lance used to be 130 BP 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[cerulean nacelle]

Oh uh legendary wise I don't think so

[cerulean nacelle]

oh and zama then technically. Both abilities became 1 time only.

[cyan smelt]

i was so happy when zama got body press, i remember when it was introduced i kept asking why they didn't give it body press straight away

[shadow wind]

But before them I don’t think any Restricteds had been directly nerfed

Not like they did in Gen 9

[cyan smelt]

zacian might be usable again without tera being a thing

[shadow wind]

Same with Groudon

[cyan smelt]

primal groudon is going to wreck shit

[shadow wind]

Unironically Tera hurt Groudon

[dry nexus]

dude wtf is up with mega golisopod's stats

[shadow wind]

Not even primal, I think normal Groudon will be flames again

[cerulean nacelle]

wdym?

[shadow wind]

The power level will average out and that’ll mean lower end Restricteds end up being better

[cyan smelt]

it also didn't help that miraidon could just draco groudon

[shadow wind]

Well that’ll still happen

But Miraidon has to stay an electric type now

[cyan smelt]

not with clefairy for redirect

[shadow wind]

Clefairy is dead in a random ditch in Kanto bro

[cyan smelt]

ok, maushold

[shadow wind]

Got hit by 13 cars I heard

And a speeding arcanine

Same thing happened to Murkrow

[cyan smelt]

murkrow was good for like 5 minutes

[shadow wind]

Keyword being good

Not may nfes can say that

And Eviolite is dead anyway

[cyan smelt]

lots of good items are dead, where did they go

[cerulean nacelle]

Sent to the void. Eaten by guzzlord.

[cyan smelt]

oh cool, that means i can run multiple items on guzzlord now

[shadow wind]

Biomech mons or whatever

[cyan smelt]

(it still won't be good)

[shadow wind]

Yeah but like Pikachu is the only nfe in the game

I mean I don’t know if they’ll even be back

[cyan smelt]

surely at some point

[dry nexus]

it has a nice 175 defense and 120 sp defense

[shadow wind]

It doesn’t seem extremely likely but who ever knows with Pokémon

[shadow wind]

The humble non stab flamethrower 🤧🤧🤧

Charred bug

[chrome knot]

wtf is the miraidon counterplay

[cyan smelt]

i thought they introduced limited roster and limited amount of items to make it easier for new players

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah mega golisopod is insanely minmaxed. Even has a solid 150 attack if im remembering correctly.

[dry nexus]

I do wonder how much it would take if you fully invest on its sp defense

[shadow wind]

Tapu bulu 🔥🔥🔥

[dry nexus]

also learns swords dance

[chrome knot]

rillaboom definitely better than that jobless bum

maybe tapu lele

[shadow wind]

Tapu bulu is fire what’re you on

[cerulean nacelle]

I don't really care for swords dance on golisopod. I think more in the sense of the new 100BP stab first impression. Or leech life + iron head + liquidation in rain giving it a potential 3rd stab.

[chrome knot]

rilla puts him out of a job

[shadow wind]

And then Miraidon clicks overheat and it ceases to matter

[cyan smelt]

i prefer to wait until dracovish is back

[cerulean nacelle]

Bro missed on grassy glide and never financially recovered.

[shadow wind]

I love the Miraidon coverage

And then koraidon gets meteor beam

🔥🔥🔥

[chrome knot]

this doesn’t matter regardless of rilla & bulu

[cyan smelt]

lunala is washed without power herb

[chrome knot]

they both explode

[shadow wind]

????

Lunalium Z

[cyan smelt]

one simple knock off from incin

[shadow wind]

Real ones know

[cyan smelt]

oh wait throat chop

[shadow wind]

Get the guy that stands up

[cerulean nacelle]

Yup no more meteor beam lunala.

[cyan smelt]

i can't wait for snorlaxium z or whatever it is

[shadow wind]

Pulverizing pancake🔥🔥🔥

[cerulean nacelle]

Where bro just locks the fuck in

[cyan smelt]

greatest move name ever

[shadow wind]

I honestly loved Z moves

Z moves > tera

[cyan smelt]

wait is this light that burns the sky?

[shadow wind]

Any day of the week

[cerulean nacelle]

Pokemon had domain expansions before domain expansions were even a thing.

[cerulean nacelle]

I think that's necrozma

[shadow wind]

Ribombee please live this 😭😭😭😭

[cyan smelt]

do you think ultra necrozma will finally be legal

[shadow wind]

I don’t know why he wasn’t legal back in USUM

[cerulean nacelle]

Never. Never in a million years.

[cyan smelt]

but it's outpaced by a lot

[cyan smelt]

what was fun was using a quick claw malamar with topsy turvy to cheese that fight

[shadow wind]

97/97/97

[cyan smelt]

flutter eats it alive

[shadow wind]

Guy dies to a Kingambit sucker punch

Gg

[shadow wind]

Now that’s a cool ability

[cyan smelt]

isn't that just reskinned adaptability

[shadow wind]

They should’ve given some mega that

[shadow wind]

Nope because it works on coverage too

[cyan smelt]

mega starmie neuroforce

[shadow wind]

Technically it’s worse than adaptability

[cerulean nacelle]

Its more like the reverse of solid rock/filter.

[shadow wind]

Damage wise on stab hits

[cyan smelt]

so many megas have such cool abilities

[shadow wind]

Cause adaptability is a 4/3 boost to damage

[shadow wind]

And some got stalwart

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah adaptability just doubling a stab is hard to beat. Hence why mega lucario was ridiculous in singles.

240BP close combats and 180BP meteor mashes...

[cerulean nacelle]

And some got innards out.

Or... piercing drill... ew

[shadow wind]

W innards out 🔥🔥🔥

[cyan smelt]

or nerfed unseen fist

[shadow wind]

Pyukumuku larp 🔥🔥🔥

[dry nexus]

hey at least it's not mold breaker on a mega

[cerulean nacelle]

rip emboar

[shadow wind]

Mega gyarados is awesome

[cerulean nacelle]

Mega gyarados is awesome.

I do agree.

[cyan smelt]

i think mega greninja is kinda cool

[dry nexus]

battle bond greninja found dead in a ditch in this game

[cerulean nacelle]

Mega gren is very much a kinda wasted but not really mega.

[shadow wind]

Mega Chesnaught is so close to being awesome

[cyan smelt]

what's its ability again

[dry nexus]

still bulletproof

[cerulean nacelle]

Bulletproof

[cyan smelt]

that's pretty lame

[dry nexus]

sorry but giving trace to a mega is stupid

[shadow wind]

I mean good for sludge bombs and weather balls

[cyan smelt]

i'm surprised that delphox is good now

[cerulean nacelle]

Bulletproof isn't actually a bad ability.

[shadow wind]

No other ability would make it fair and balanced

If you’re talking about Alakazam anyway

[cerulean nacelle]

Mega meowstic?

You mean wish mega alakazam?

[shadow wind]

Nope it’s pretty good but grass fighting is awful

[cyan smelt]

mega meowstic is temu mega alakazam

[cerulean nacelle]

Yup.

[shadow wind]

Like Chesnaught walls Landorus but then gets hit with a bleakwind storm for 300%

[cerulean nacelle]

Fr fr.

[shadow wind]

Gg

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah I'd say if there was ever a time for it to try and shine it'd be the early days before we have tornadus spam everywhere.

[shadow wind]

Even right now it gets dogwalked

Aegislash alone makes it pretty much useless

[cyan smelt]

hey at least it's immune to mega gengar, right, right?

[shadow wind]

Not to his beautiful singing voice

[cerulean nacelle]

Something about a song called p... parish? Perishe?

[cyan smelt]

true

wolfey con perish

[shadow wind]

Bro gets beaten by a choir

Gg

[cyan smelt]

i like mega slowbro

[shadow wind]

Mega Slowbro is flames

[cyan smelt]

i think that is a perfectly balanced pokemon

[shadow wind]

1 cm and it’s going nuclear

Does he still have scald or nah

[cyan smelt]

i think so

but the main thing is iron def body press and slack off

[shadow wind]

Is that the main thing?

[cyan smelt]

with that def stat why would you not

[shadow wind]

80 spdef is squishy right now

Guy probably dies to a light of ruin

[cyan smelt]

it gets amnesia

[shadow wind]

Double dance Slowbro 🪩🪩🪩🪩

[cerulean nacelle]

And then encore whims just fucks you up.

[cyan smelt]

i want to try something like toxic spikes sneasler with roar skeledirge and just poison everyone's teams

[cerulean nacelle]

Do toxic debris glimmora.

with sash

[cyan smelt]

wasn't toxic spikes sneasler a thing in SV

might not work so well since sneasler is on everyone's teams

wait roar skeledirge might actually be kinda fire against those farigiraf teams

roar out an incineroar for another defiant boost

roar out a floette that tries to set up

toxic spikes seems like a great way to break sashes too

[cerulean nacelle]

It works at the start until people catch on then just attack you.

[cerulean nacelle]

I've seen people use stealth rock archaludon for similar reasons.

Or use kleavor.

[cyan smelt]

kleavor is so mid

[shadow wind]

I mess with Kleavor

25% every time Incin wants to come in?

Sign me up

[cyan smelt]

50% to zard y

[shadow wind]

50% to Charizard period

[cyan smelt]

wait does it still get u-turn, you could perish trap, turn 1 set up stealth rock, t2 pivot out with u-turn

[shadow wind]

Can’t come in mega’d

Yeah it does

[shadow wind]

Honestly he gets bonkers moves

[cyan smelt]

ok maybe i underestimated the humble kleavor

[shadow wind]

Roost Kleavor 🔥🔥🔥

His bulk is where is crumbles though

[shadow wind]

Lowkey forgot he got sharpness

[cyan smelt]

hits like a freight train though

[shadow wind]

I like how they all have 500 BST

W game design

[cyan smelt]

perfectly balanced pokemon

[shadow wind]

Although scyther having 500 BST seems like a lot

But he is pretty fast I guess

[cyan smelt]

gen 1 favouritism

[shadow wind]

Lot of 1 stagers in Gen 1

Like a lot a lot

[cyan smelt]

i have an idea for stone axe kleavor with perish trap gengar, kleavor can get u-turn and incin can come in and fake out and then parting shot

[cerulean nacelle]

its an idea. Just gotta be careful of opposing fake outs.

[cyan smelt]

the humble farigiraf

[shadow wind]

Can’t have Kleavor, Gengar, and Farig all on the field at the same time

[cyan smelt]

yeah that's where it falls apart

would need to run protect on kleavor

[shadow wind]

120 base power x scissor is hilarious lowkey

[cyan smelt]

which mons would not like to take that

gambit would not like it

[shadow wind]

Gambit probably takes like 40

[cerulean nacelle]

you can run CC for gambit ngl

[shadow wind]

32+ Atk Sharpness Kleavor X-Scissor vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Kingambit: 100-118 (48.3 - 57%) -- 93.33% chance to 2HKO

I was close

[cyan smelt]

cc, tect, stone axe and u-turn

[cerulean nacelle]

sounds about right

[shadow wind]

I think people ran scarf in sv

[cerulean nacelle]

I have seen a few people doing sableye + mega scizor... im kinda interested in that...

But for now i need to figure out fuckin... zard X

[cyan smelt]

you need sinistcha for redirection + healing

and you need fake out to set up

you know i'm beginning to enjoy this reg and theorymonning

wait, instead of roar skeledirge, what about roar farigiraf, blocks fake out

and then gengar wouldn't be necessary because i don't want them to stay in

[cerulean nacelle]

yeah my plan rn was gonna be zard X, milotic, sinistcha, sneasler

I was maybe thinking kingambit + A9

[cyan smelt]

with zard x you need to be careful of all my friends are dead syndrome because while it sets up they can ko the partners

[cerulean nacelle]

yeahhhhhh, im aware.

this is partially why i want a9 to try and provide aurora veil support

[cyan smelt]

tough claws boosted flare blitz does sound fun though

[cerulean nacelle]

my main issue after however is I have no true speed control

so a9 may actually become whims

which is a pokemon I do not use very often lmao

[cyan smelt]

i just realised, is whims the only prankster tailwinder currently?

[cerulean nacelle]

gale wings talonflame is also a prankster larper but yeah

currently whims is the only prankster tailwinder

[cyan smelt]

i gotta say i really like the balance of old and new pokemon on the roster, it makes things feel fresh

[cerulean nacelle]

Id like it more if there were more items. But i dont remind a more restricted amount of mons.

[cyan smelt]

at least we don't have to deal with banded palafin or AV arch

[cerulean nacelle]

very true very true

part of me kinda wants a wide guard user on my team

[cyan smelt]

aegislash

[cerulean nacelle]

Maybe

[cyan smelt]

i don't even know what learns wide guard

all i've seen it on is peli and aegislash

[cerulean nacelle]

aero ironically also learns wide guard.

Would it be insane to run sash aero alongside zard x?

[cyan smelt]

i was gonna suggest aero

[cerulean nacelle]

yeah i kinda like aero over whims here

[cyan smelt]

you could also consider coaching sneasler

[cerulean nacelle]

i was thinking about foregoing protect for coaching sneasler.

[cyan smelt]

i am thinking about running coaching sneasler again

[cerulean nacelle]

what sorta build would you run on milotic? I kinda like the idea of muddy water + life dew.

[cyan smelt]

coaching sneasler next to gambit, mega kang, gliscor? phwoar

personally i like coil hypnosis to give zard more time to set up

[cerulean nacelle]

i feel like thats such a gimmicky set lmao

[cyan smelt]

you could run scald + life dew to cripple physical attackers

[cerulean nacelle]

yeah i kinda did that for my froslass veil team. With icy wind to help support with speed control at times.

[cyan smelt]

wait were you considering sinistcha or not, because that also has life dew

[cerulean nacelle]

oh yeah sinistcha is on here with matcha gotcha, rage powder, life dew and TR

[cyan smelt]

you could easily run icy wind and scald on milotic

[cerulean nacelle]

i currently am lol

[cyan smelt]

then recover?

[cerulean nacelle]

If im not going for coil shenanigans do i need recover?

[cyan smelt]

probably not

[cerulean nacelle]

my current set is scald, icy wind, life dew, protect

you wont catch me risking hypnosis lol

Ill give this a try and see how it goes

[cyan smelt]

i really want to try the toxic spikes + stealth rock + roar idea

[real prairie]

just lost to a mono steel team

[cyan smelt]

what was on it? arch, gambit, aegislash?

[real prairie]

klefki, arch, excadrill, aegislash, lucario, skarmory

klefki dual weather with mental herb

[cyan smelt]

that's uh, something

[real prairie]

rain dance to stop fire mons and use excadrill to OHKO them, then sandstorm to give it speed or use rain with arch

assume skarmory to allow excadrill to spam EQ

[shadow wind]

Freaky

[dense minnow]

Does anyone have a cool mega gyarados team?

[real prairie]

once again im using a team to counter the meta and havent played a single meta team since making it

[bold geode]

Hello chat

[indigo coral]

Hello! Good morning!

[chrome knot]

go back to bed

[bold geode]

Wish I could

[chrome knot]

i can yay

[bold geode]

NO, WAKEY WAKEY

[chrome knot]

nope gn

im goin to texas tmrw

[cerulean nacelle]

good afternoon

Also, i do not like zard x into this format

aerodactyl is meannnn

I cannot seem to find a team comp I like

I do really like my bulky froslass core but because i run froslass sinistcha kingambit, i actually have 3 fire weaknesses

Making the zard match up incredibly hard.

[cerulean nacelle]

Legit after I made it to master rank I've just had a mental block. Nothings really felt right to play.

[bold geode]

Nice

[spiral ridge]

I’m going back to bed too

Imagine not napping this monkey guy sucks

[real prairie]

is there anything that OHKO mega venasaur?

thing is a wall

[real prairie]

for a start, run heatproof on sini in that team

then add aero or scarf chomp to the team

[leaden fox]

Hm, deciding on several options for teams atm; which is never fun xD

[oak geode]

Can Charizard Y one shot Aerodactyl in any way?

[lost sun]

most of them use sash anyway

[oak geode]

Not my question, I ask since I wanna know if Incineroar + Charizard Y lead can kill Aerodactyl

Since Fake Out + whatever move from Charizard

[dense latch]

it can’t

[oak geode]

Best case i can see if Protect Charizard, Will o Wisp w Incineroar. OR Fake out with Incineroar and Will o Wisp really it seems

[dense latch]

best shot is probably solar beam and at most that does 80ish percent

[lost sun]

ye just calced it at modest 252 and it's about 83% at most for solar beam

[dense latch]

i mean if you’re threatening fake out any decent player will just protect aero to keep its sash

[oak geode]

That also makes it predictable, so they can target your teammate

Plus, Focus Sach doesn't matter too much when they can't one shot you anyways as we established

[lost sun]

better to keep it than not

[dense latch]

tect both pokemon

[oak geode]

I also would like to keep my partner, maybe double protect?

[dense latch]

you cant really punish that

[oak geode]

We so smart

[lost sun]

not with Incin and zard y

but other stuff u could

[oak geode]

What about Y on Milotic? Can Zard 1 shot Milotic?

[dense latch]

yea thats what i meant

[lost sun]

no

[foggy lodge]

No

The same thing it does like 70% something around there

[oak geode]

I ask since Aero + Milotic is my usual lead into sun

Aero outspeeds Venusaur even under sun right?

[lost sun]

no

[foggy lodge]

No

[dense latch]

no

[foggy lodge]

If it has tailwind yeah but without it venu is faster

[dense latch]

max timid venu is 134

x2 from chlorophyll

[foggy lodge]

145

[dense latch]

wait no thats max modest mb

point still stands tho at least

[oak geode]

Even if Aero is Jolly Max speed?

[dense latch]

aero only gets to 200

[oak geode]

I see

I'm on Milotic & Aerodactyl, they are on both Venu & Zard, what would you guys do in this circumstance? I feel like its almost guaranteed both are hard targeting Aerodactyl, I'm pretty sure opponent would always go for the Sleep right?

Since if Venu atks, Zard dies pretty sure

[dense latch]

what does milotic threaten there

feels like a dead slot in the lead

[lost sun]

ye they have to sleep aero

or switch out zard

[oak geode]

Nothing, a scenario where I predict Incine and got it wrong

[solar fiber]

Does aero have taunt

[oak geode]

Its a hypothetical

[solar fiber]

Wait nevermind they get outsped anyways

[dense latch]

tect aero switch to incineroar

[lost sun]

aerodactyl has taunt yes

[dense latch]

fake out venu tailwind aero

[solar fiber]

Switch to your weather setter and taunt with aero

Wait naw mega evolution kicks in

[dense latch]

idek if u have incin but if u do that’s great

[oak geode]

I got my team saved, let me find it

[solar fiber]

Protect to bait out the Drought then switch to a weather setter and taunt venusaur

[foggy lodge]

Aerodactyl almost never runs taunt

[solar fiber]

Or dual wingbeat but I doubt it kills venu

[oak geode]

Fros
Orth
Chomp
Aero
Milotic

Can't remember last member but it might not be Incineroar

[foggy lodge]

Chomp Aero

[lost sun]

ye chomp would be better to bring than milotic

[dense latch]

even if they lead incin they’re still doing a lot of damage to it

[oak geode]

Again it's mostly for the Hypothetical to see what Aero should do

Double Rock Slides pretty much always cooks

[lost sun]

and if they do then double rockslide does big damage to Incin and likely flinches too

[oak geode]

Let's say I'm on Gar & Aero,

What would Opponent usually do? Cause leaving the two on seems like a death sentence, even protecting with Charizard won't do much when both of the mons at the front outspeed and can rock slide for its life savings

[lost sun]

probably sleep powder one and protect zard or just switch out zard

but me personally if I see chomp and aero I never lead zard anyway

[oak geode]

I mean like Incineroar & Zard

But that is good to know

[oak geode]

Yeah genuinely dumb, but Zard Y players aren't known for their IQ

Sorry if anyone here is a Zard Y player, I'm sure you are smart

[lost sun]

fakeout aero can do anything with zard depending on chomps item and zards evs

[oak geode]

What do you mean?

[lost sun]

they might attack or protect/switch

my zard is trained to survive rockslide from chomp so ik I can attack if I need to

[mighty stump]

#replica_teams is open for use now. Please abide by the guidelines

Please give thanks to @bold geode and @vapid comet for their contributions already

[gentle crag]

woodtofu has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke, sjknol

[vapid comet]

[spiral ridge]

Thank you just SJ

Oh you put team too sick

[leaden fox]

Working on another team: thoughts?

[real prairie]

Fake out solar beam no?

Give Incin the attack to do 18% from fake out lol

[leaden fox]

Changed that team ever so slightly; putting in Rotom-Wash xD

[cerulean nacelle]

I'd say you have a few ways of already dealing with ttar in venusaur, chomp and sneasler. Do you really need low kick on the kingambit? Iron head so the kingambit can kill mega floette would be useful.

May I also ask why 12 speed on the kingambit? Im curious about that investment. whats its purpose.

[leaden fox]

If I remember correctly, lets me outspeed low speed Prima

[cerulean nacelle]

Ah, thats fair. But you still can't do anything to primarina with this moveset lol

[leaden fox]

I know, still looking over options atm

[cerulean nacelle]

I think iron head over low kick is the move here. You have so many other things to allow you to deal with low kick targets.

But not nearly as many to deal with mega floette or prim.

Otherwise yeah, seems to be pretty standard.

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[leaden fox]

I've seen less and less Mega Floette atm

[stuck perch]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-good-gewd-star-wars-episode-3-gif-15386400457909814305

[leaden fox]

May be due to everyone running the "bigger teams" from other VGC Tournaments online xP

[cerulean nacelle]

that is a good sign tbh.

[leaden fox]

Yeah, true that

[cerulean nacelle]

Also I removed kommo-o for aerodactyl on my mega froslass team

and the team already feels better

Still got 3 fire weaknesses but aero helps the zard match up somewhat major.

Not sure whether I wanna run mega aerodactyl. I bring mega froslass to most matches anyhow so it might just be good to stick to sash.

[leaden fox]

Considering it works better into Fire types and it relatively fast, yeah

And only time you could run Mega Aero is if you are facing off against Delphox

[cerulean nacelle]

yeah mega delphox might be a pain. But i run incin who counters mega delphox rlly well

[leaden fox]

Yeah, if you have Incin and Fake Out plays, you'll be fine

Plus you know they cannot switch Delphox into Aero

[cerulean nacelle]

Most of my teams do carry a sneasler. This one is incin because it works better with aurora veil

[leaden fox]

Yeah, I get that

[cerulean nacelle]

And ima be honest, fuck mega scovillain

A team basically needs a good scovillain answer rn.

I do still wanna work on a mega zard X team ngl.

[real prairie]

How fast is mega greninja

[cerulean nacelle]

Even if aero is about

[real prairie]

Thing just outsped max speed scarf jolly tsareena

[leaden fox]

Yeah, Scovillain can be a pain 😅

[leaden fox]

I think it is 142/152 speed

Yeah, 142, just checked

[cerulean nacelle]

142

[real prairie]

Max out at 213 speed, faster than tsareena 204

[cerulean nacelle]

speed ties dragapult lol

[leaden fox]

May be max speed + speed boosting nature

[real prairie]

Really annoying

[leaden fox]

After all, Tsareena isn't that fast

[cerulean nacelle]

also yeah @real prairie a timid max speed mega gren gets to 213. Tsareena gets to 136 at jolly which with scarf is only 204.

[real prairie]

Yeah still mad

[leaden fox]

Thought I was correct about the speed conversion

[real prairie]

Anything else speed creep me without scarf?

[leaden fox]

Likely any mons with 140+ speed, max speed evs + speed boosting nature

[fossil bridge]

Hello, what do you think of this team for doubles? https://pokepast.es/4e0ab1321339c800

[leaden fox]

Seems to looks good; just need to test it over and over

[cerulean nacelle]

Delphox actually ties which is funny

so basically anything 135+ base speed

[cerulean nacelle]

Stalwart is cool. If you feel like that doesn't give you enough damage, you could run dragon fang and then run the sturdy ability to have a built in sash.

I also don't think sinistcha here needs mental herb? Sitrus berry probably has better use for the teapot. That or colbur to eat a kingambit attack.

@real prairie you gotta be careful. My man mega manectric bout to speed creep your boi.

[fossil bridge]

That's true hahaha

If I put the sitrus on sinistcha, which object should pelipper hold?

[cerulean nacelle]

Looking at this rain team honestly got me thinking.

If mega manectric had just a bit more coverage he'd be really fricking good.

Then I realised he can kinda be an anti rain mega for the rain teams? Absorb archaludons electro shots with lightning rod in base form then spam snarls or thunders?

Could be something to look into... not necessarily saying it's the best but... it's an interesting idea.

[sudden remnant]

was it just me or was the server not loading for a bit for anyone else

[cyan smelt]

server died for a bit

vex i bought firered

[sudden remnant]

i have lead green 😁

also the copy of pokemon y i bought came last night

same 3ds ive had since my birthday in 2015

[lost sun]

mega delphox is a speed tie if it's 32+

[stuck perch]

3dsXL looks brand new mines looks heavily used 😭

[sudden remnant]

its been in use since i was 9

[stuck perch]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-old-gif-4327453260111621237

Im way older then you(not really)

[sudden remnant]

i turn 20 next month

less than a month actually

[stuck perch]

Holy your like a whole generation younger than me 💀

[sudden remnant]

okay grandpa lets get you back to your room 🫩

[stuck perch]

https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-wwe-wrestling-lol-gif-5647424

[sudden remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blep-gif-27395371

does your ds have a case? mine looks so new still cuz its in a case whenever im not using it

and i clean it fairly regularly

[stuck perch]

I don't even remember having a case

It's a bit dirty

[cerulean nacelle]

Oh yay the server is back

[sudden remnant]

😭

get a case bro 🥺

you’re holding a relic of an era long gone

[stuck perch]

I told you it's been heavily used lmaooo. I've had it since I was 12 I think

[stuck perch]

https://tenor.com/view/tell-me-about-it-youre-preaching-to-the-choir-oh-i-know-i-know-you-can-say-that-again-gif-15029344

[sudden remnant]

i also have a gameboy advanced

i just dont have any of my old cartridges for it

[stuck perch]

Wats next you still have your old childhood pokemon card collection? 🤨

[sudden remnant]

yes i do in fact

[stuck perch]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-sponge-bob-disgusted-merlinators-gif-25385381

[sudden remnant]

what lmao

well i have whatever cards my stepmom didn’t destroy

[winter fox]

Did you rip the knob off your D-pad 😭

[stuck perch]

The joystick lol. I forgot how it happened 💀

[stuck perch]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-hank-hill-king-of-the-hill-revival-omg-oh-dear-lord-gif-18247478720739301339

[sudden remnant]

yeah i was mad that day

[winter fox]

Word of advice if you're collecting cards and looking to sell them

[stuck perch]

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-stan-twitter-gif-11982472424887997248

Flashback

[winter fox]

Seal them immediately, do not hold them on the front. Fingerprints,bends,tears destroy the value.

[sudden remnant]

she threw a water bottle at me and it exploded and sent water all over my cards next to me

[stuck perch]

Why did she thinking throwing a water bottle at a child was a good idea?

[sudden remnant]

i grabbed the wrong peanut butter from the cabinet 😐

also i was 15

[sudden remnant]

i wish i was lying to you 😔

but thats actually the reason she threw my water bottle at me

luckily, it was plastic and not a metal thermos

[stuck perch]

Ik you hate peanut butter til this day 😭😭

[sudden remnant]

i don’t blame the peanut butter for her actions

and whenwvwr i try to tell my dad shit like this she pulls the “bad cop” card and yadda yadda yadda

so thats fun

she destroyed several thousand dollars worth of cards in an instant

[keen quiver]

im crying bruh
game magically spawn in a contrary serperior with a Beast ball in the recruit lineup

Free steal i guess

[winter fox]

You know what I'm gonna say it

I don't care if you broke your elbow

[stuck perch]

https://tenor.com/view/idc-broke-elbow-vine-gif-10955756

[sudden remnant]

imagine it was shiny too

[inland loom]

Finally

[keen quiver]

doubles?

[inland loom]

Yeh

[sudden remnant]

it sucks i cant catch the kanto starters later in the game in X and Y

im picking charmander to give my future delphox sun when zard mega evolves to Y but i also want a bulbasaur

i want charmander for drought but want bulbasaur cuz its the best gen 1 starter

why cant i have both

[stuck perch]

Woohoo

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-whoo-hoo-yes-yay-gif-9848298218460771056

[sudden remnant]

i stopped at ultra 2

cuz i want to change some mons but i have to get the replacements first

[stuck perch]

I just battled a whole fire team and beat them with MegaFroslass and Spiritomb 😂

[sudden remnant]

spiritomb is crazy like that

you fw my team?

Mr Bubbles is an Araquanid and Cannon is a Manectric i know the glare is awful

[stuck perch]

Trick, protect and shadow ball I used

[inland loom]

Araquanid is what really makes my trick room team

Wide guard is so easy to use sometimes. I would know because no matter how many times my opponents would use it before I would always fall for it

[sudden remnant]

Araquanid is goated

[inland loom]

Liquidation can sometimes ohko sneasler, chomp, and sometimes gambit

[sudden remnant]

are you using mystic water?

and also what spread are you running

mines 252 hp 220 attack 36 defense and adamant

with water bubble mystic water liquidation wide guard entrainment and leech life

[inland loom]

I’d have to check when I get home

[sudden remnant]

and 4 special defense

cuz i had a point to spare

[inland loom]

But araquanid is one of the reasons I made it to masterball tier

[cerulean nacelle]

I FINALLY GOT A SHINY MALE BASCULINNNN

[inland loom]

I run liquidation, leech life, wide guard, skitter smack, and have mystic water on it. I’ll check evs when I get home

[sudden remnant]

32 hp 28 attack 5 defense and 1 special defense. thats what it would be in champs sp system

im still not used to the sp system

[inland loom]

Helping hand really helps too on tougher mons

From my farigiraf

[sudden remnant]

i have helping hand on my umbreon

[inland loom]

I prefer giraffe because of priority control and trick room

[sudden remnant]

i use umbreon cuz chonky cat

and also it fucks with a lot of relevant pokemon rn

and its shiny and its a cat and its my child

what more reason do i need to run umbreon

[inland loom]

Mood

I feel that way too because my giraffe is shiny

[sudden remnant]

it was given to me as an eevee

and i evolved it myself

[cerulean nacelle]

Bro I'm so happy I finally got the male shiny basculin for basculegion

[sudden remnant]

i wish female basculegion was good

[keen quiver]

choice specs adaptability soon

[cerulean nacelle]

It can be. It's just that with the limited dex atm, and how powerful adaptability last respects gets, there isn't much reason to use it.

But stab adaptability hydro pumps or muddy waters in rain can serve as very strong spread moves or non recoil attacks.

[sudden remnant]

id much rather run specs on a hisuian typhlosion honestly

[keen quiver]

a-?
trick room in singles
k

[cerulean nacelle]

They do completely different things anyway. You ain't gonna run specs typhlosion in rain.

And you probably ain't running specs typhlosion anyway. Risky business if you get caught outside of tailwind.

[sudden remnant]

whimsicott would like to know your location

[cerulean nacelle]

I'm not saying it's impossible. But it can be risky. Scarf typically is a lot safer because you can immediately pair it with sun like zard Y for just massive upfront damage.

Rather than your whimsicott potentially get fake outed and then typhlosion take a hit.

[keen quiver]

Classic umbreon user tried to yawn stall but got fucked over by status effects lmao

[sudden remnant]

i could also use a hisuian zoroark disguised as typhlosion

[cerulean nacelle]

Hisuian zoroark*

And that's a terrible mon to disguise as lol

[sudden remnant]

and have zoroark have the scarf

and they think its scarf typhlosion

and that im locked into shadow ball

but its not typhlosion at all

[inland loom]

I use skitter smack just to fuck with special attackers

[keen quiver]

peak bug type name

[inland loom]

On araquanid

[sudden remnant]

that lowers physical attack tho😭

what is the plan broski

[inland loom]

No?

I’m pretty sure it’s special

[sudden remnant]

what

which one lowers physical attack then

[bold geode]

Lunge

[sudden remnant]

ah yep 🫠

[inland loom]

Lunge is speed no?

Nvm

[sudden remnant]

no thats pounce

[cerulean nacelle]

Lunge is attack I believe?

Been a while since I used lunge.

[inland loom]

I love bugs

[sudden remnant]

yes lunge lowers attack

[inland loom]

So my point still stands lol. Skitter smack is goated

[sudden remnant]

i have entrainment instead

can give one of my other mons a fire resist and can take abilities away from opponents that i dont want to have that ability

like defiant on kingambit

cuz my mega is manectric and mega manectric has intimidate

[inland loom]

Oooooh competitive on milo

[cerulean nacelle]

I was actually thinking about maybe tryna make mega manectric work on a rain team

You see mega dnite and mega meganium and don't get me wrong I love mega meganium

[inland loom]

You said heliolisk wrong

[cerulean nacelle]

I did indeed. Cuz I meant mega manectric lmao.

[sudden remnant]

im actually using it on a semi sun team (whim has sunny day and manectric has flame thrower)

[cerulean nacelle]

That's an interesting choice

[sudden remnant]

the issue with manectric is its movepool is quite bad

[inland loom]

Does sun and mega sol stack? Like more damage for weather ball or does it only count once?

[sudden remnant]

it gets snarl hypervoice flamethrower and overheat for coverage. thats IT

[sudden remnant]

no it does not

[inland loom]

Damn

[sudden remnant]

does not stack i mean

[cerulean nacelle]

It doesn't. Since weather ball with mega sol already counts as sun boosted fire move, it can't count twice.

Also meganium on a sun team Is a pretty bad choice lmao.

[sudden remnant]

its cool that its a full power fire move in the rain

[inland loom]

What megas do we still not know the abilities of?

[sudden remnant]

a lot of them

[cerulean nacelle]

Off the top of my head, a lot

Scrafty
Golisopod
Pyroar
Falinks
Tatsugiri

Etc etc

[sudden remnant]

im gonna execute whoever at tpci gave mega meowstic fucking trace

[inland loom]

Arceus please give falinks something good

[sudden remnant]

give it dauntless shield

[lost sun]

give it zacians ability too since it has a sword

[inland loom]

As one dauntless shield and intrepid sword

[sudden remnant]

would be awesome

they gave golurk and excadrill both unseen fist so i dont see why they couldnt give falinks either of those abilities