competitive_discussion

[sudden remnant]

or dont listen ✌🏻

[winter fox]

It would wall my whole team if given the chance

[sudden remnant]

you have a sneasler that i hope has a poison move

[winter fox]

It does

[sudden remnant]

what the fuck is this team aero sneasler chandelure incin???? what else do you have

[winter fox]

My opponent had Chandelure and Primarina leading. I was leading Incin and Sneasler with Garchomp and Floette in the back.

[sudden remnant]

😭

bro fake out the primarina and rock slide with aero

aero is the single fastest pokemon in the format

tied with i think mega alakazam and nothing else

wait its mega is 150

still aero is only speed tied with like mega gengar

fake out rock slide

dire claw the prim, rock slide

[dry nexus]

the RNG in this game is absolute horsecrap

3 quick claw procs in a row

[sudden remnant]

lmao

[winter fox]

It used Protect when I did 😭

[sudden remnant]

thats perfectly fine

next turn dire claw into it and rock slide

i imagine aero has the sash?

lead aero sneasler fake out the prim and tailwind with aero

next turn dire claw the prim and rock slide

and then you can probably rockslide with both pokemon

[winter fox]

They forfeited the moment Chandelure went down

Tried to Trick Scarf me into Fake Out

[sudden remnant]

lmao

did they click trick turn 2?

wait no they would have to click it turn 1

and it doesnt lock you into that move lmao

[winter fox]

Turn 1

[sudden remnant]

i corrected myself right below that

yall fw my team? 🥺

[ebon pivot]

https://pokepast.es/cdf988dabc4b41ca what yall think about my emolga team

[foggy lodge]

It looks like it enables Emolga enough if you really want to use it

But doesn't it get tw?

[sudden remnant]

im almost certain it does

[foggy lodge]

Yeah it gets tailwind for speed control

[sudden remnant]

but nuzzle

pikachu clone+toxtricity+hatterene exclusive move

i think hatterene should learn sheer cold and fissure

cuz its lore says it will slime out anything that disturbs its peace

guillotine and the drill one wouldnt make sense

but sheer cold and fissure could make sense on it

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/e5d185d7f34fa73e i would appreiate any thoughts on this team, built to make Kangaskhan work cause ive never really used it before

[winter fox]

FREE I'M FINALLY FREE FROM DOUBLES

[rustic mountain]

lowkey sucks u cant change somethin like rotom form in champions

[red willow]

Wdym you dont think having 3-4 alternate forms of the same mon on a limited space platform is intuitive

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Thank you showdown on mobile

I did want my Medicham to learn the move “u”

[cyan smelt]

Pp 4.8?

[red willow]

Help chat

Im racking my brain trying to figure out why this top cut team is using m aerodactyl over sash when sash isnt on any other mon and dual wingbeat is the only tough claws boosted move

[timber falcon]

Outspeeds other aerodactyl, ok bulk and stronger dual wingbeat?

What’s the team ?

[red willow]

Ig thats fair

M froslass sneasler gambit chomp basc m aero

[timber falcon]

Not too sure, though it’s likely for a non-snow mode. Perhaps so they don’t have to deal with zard weather war?

[red willow]

Fair enough I would feel real weird bringing aero and fros to the same game tho

One effectively has no item lol

But I feel like there would be mus where both are necessary to access fast blizzard with tw and such lmao

[timber falcon]

For sure, I can’t see non-Mega frosslass getting much play

[jade dust]

Is mega blastoise good as 2nd mega in a Floette team?

I see that they use similar teammates

[oak geode]

Het, I wanted an opinion on something, Aerodactyl in my Mega Fros team. Would you guys it would be good? I ask since I would love a mon like it to make the Charizard Y matchup more in my favor.

[molten oasis]

Any, actually

I think mega lass is good just not sure what’s best for it

[shadow wind]

Yeah man I’ve got no clue

[cerulean nacelle]

I mean... comparing mega froslass to base froslass is literally hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[cerulean nacelle]

Also if you're gonna be running like, max max speed and special attack on froslass, aero can be very good as it + froslass can threaten zard + venu cores. It does get a bit dicier with zard Y + whims however because they'll outpace you with prankster trick room, so a better pairing into that is probably sneasler + aerodactyl or such.

[noble hatch]

ive been running bulky frosslass to good success tbh

lets it survive some surprising stuff and if im able to set up just right i can double clangorous soul kommo-o then click psych up

[cerulean nacelle]

I've been doing this ^

I assume utilising aurora veil to make it even bulkier yeah?

[noble hatch]

for double omni boosts on m-frosslass

which is gross

[cerulean nacelle]

Ah see I use clangorous soul but not psych up.

[noble hatch]

its so gross when it works

also possible to do this strat with mega-meowstic

[cerulean nacelle]

That's kinda more the thing. When it works. I feel like a lotta people are gonna be targeting you, there's quite a few encore users and TR is at an all time high. The chance of you pulling it off is becoming slimmer.

[noble hatch]

but unfortunately mega meowstic is cheeks

yeah thats why im pivotting to a diff team rn

which is honestly gonna be even more disgusting

[cerulean nacelle]

I do think I need to change my team, it's got a fair few overlapping weaknesses, but currently it's

Mega froslass
Lum berry soundproof kommo-o
Sitrus berry sinistcha
Chople berry kingambit
Lefties milotic utilising icy wind, scald and life dew for support.

[leaden fox]

Once Indeedee is added, it’ll be a little better

[oak geode]

Could do Sneasler, Aerodactyl, Froslass, Ice Rotom, and 2 others idk

[noble hatch]

nah cause mega zam exists

[cerulean nacelle]

I'm ngl, i think with mega zard y being the most prevelant mega atm, double blizzard spam is kinda cope?

[cyan smelt]

You need something to shut down zard y

[cerulean nacelle]

Mega meowstic will always be a wish version of mega alakazam like what raph said

[oak geode]

Idk, I like it for most matchups, what would you recommend?

[noble hatch]

like even with competitive meowstic pre mega after it megas it might hit harder than zam but its just so much slower than mega zam

so its really hard to justify using it

[cyan smelt]

Speed swap lol

[noble hatch]

genuinely a waste to speed swap m-meow to make it faster

[cerulean nacelle]

If you're going offensive froslass with no aurora veil, perhaps something else to, like @cyan smelt said, help with the zard Y match up.

There just isn't gonna be many times where double blizzard spam is very useful.

[cyan smelt]

Chomp is decent into sun

And synergises well with aero

[oak geode]

My current team is Fros, Orth, Bascu, Ice Rotom, Garchomp and Incineroar

[cyan smelt]

How about delphox for the sun mu

[oak geode]

Mega or just Delphox?

[cyan smelt]

Mega, then you can eq next to it with chomp

[oak geode]

Eq?

[cyan smelt]

Earthquake

[oak geode]

Ahh

So Delphox & Aerodactyl over Rotom and maybe Basculegion?

[cyan smelt]

Also delphox is really good behind a sub

Keep basc, basc is a really good end-game sweeper

I'd get rid of ice rotom

[oak geode]

Maybe Incin? Or Orthworm but I really like Orthworm

Helps into Sand teams and Garchomp

[cyan smelt]

Orthworm is good synergy next to chomp too

I think it's incin yeah

[oak geode]

So

Garchomp
Orth
Fros
Basculegion
Delphox
Aerodactyl

[cyan smelt]

Test it out and see how you go

What matchups are you currently struggling with?

[oak geode]

I only played a short period so only matchup I ever lost was against specifically sun

I won against everything else

[cyan smelt]

Chomp and aero should help a lot

[oak geode]

For this team should I go full DPS Fros or just go for support with Veil then sweep?

[cyan smelt]

You've got a lot of offensive pieces so probably just hyper offence

[oak geode]

I'll do so then, I'll be back later after setting the team up, will need to see if I got a shiny Aerodactyl

[cyan smelt]

But if you're losing try veil

[cerulean nacelle]

Oh its just the Wolfe team

[oak geode]

Yeah. I don't like copying others so I swapped a few moves around

Wanted to try something new since I still don't like borrowing someone's team

[cerulean nacelle]

It's OK to utilise what you've seen. I used a very similar milotic set to what Austin john did on his zard X team for my bulky mega froslass team.

The aurora veil made milotic bulkier, milotic can provide speed control through icy wind which I severely lack with my team besides TR on sinistcha lol

[cerulean nacelle]

As long as you know why something was used or understand how well it benefits your team, it's OK to use it.

[spiral zealot]

is it chill to run flamethrower over heat wave

i know its giving up like a bit of damage output but i would really rather run 100% accuracy

[cerulean nacelle]

on what pokemon?

[cyan smelt]

I assume zard y

[cerulean nacelle]

i was assuming mega delphox

because zard Y can run weather ball

[spiral zealot]

yeah mega delphox sorry

[cerulean nacelle]

whats ur current set up?

[spiral zealot]

im kind of bouncing between two mega delphox teams right now and trying to get a feel for them
if you just meant Delphox's setup, its 30 SpA max Spe with Psychic, Substitute, and Protect
but for the whole team its either getting paired with
Basc/Gambit/Dragonite/Sneasler/Clefable
or
Chomp/Incin/Venusaur/Aegislash/Rotom

[cerulean nacelle]

I think heat waves spread is just too good to pass up really. psychic is still a good single target attack and is of high value but also being able to potentially OHKO two opponents at once shouldn't be underestimated.

also, neither of your teams have speed control do they? besides a fake out user?

[spiral zealot]

they do not

[cerulean nacelle]

that may be something to look at potentially?

[spiral zealot]

i could do electroweb rotom i guess

[cerulean nacelle]

Thats fair. I do similar with icy wind milotic. Just gotta be careful of what you throw it into. Don't wanna give a milo or kingambit a free boost.

[spiral zealot]

i do agree with u that i want speed control but so many of these high level team builds don't have it

i should probably prioritize it though
ive kind of been losing to trick room pretty severely as well

[torn parrot]

I have the screenshot it isn’t champion rank tho

):<

[cerulean nacelle]

TR is really hard to manage atm, especially when people have things like mega scovillain to punish kingambit or mega blastoise + farigiraf which is really fucking difficult to solve.

the main thing is, opposing pokemon using tailwind might overwhelm your pokemon.

[spiral zealot]

yeah i might put talonflame back on and use it for tailwind + burn

[cerulean nacelle]

Idk if people are getting smarter and putting mental herb on their farigirafs now but it might be an idea to use taunt?

my set up with talonflame is brave bird, upper hand, tailwind, taunt

13.8% of people on champions are apparently using mental her. 45% sitrus and 16.8% colbur

so theres actually decent odds

I might give imprison trick room farigiraf a try ngl

[timber falcon]

Mariland teambuilder has been down for a while, anyone got any alternatives? A website that calcs a teams type coverage

[spiral zealot]

there's https://mypokemonteam.com

its not perfect but it shows you your defensive and offensive coverage

Marriland is working for me though currently

[real prairie]

Look at you go! top 500!

[timber falcon]

ty

[cerulean nacelle]

just had an amazing match against a blastoise player. I was really on the bad foot. i had veil up but it was gonna run out and sinistcha was asleep.

Sinistcha stayed asleep for one turn as they switch out their sneasler into their garchomp and i use life dew on my lower than half health milotic to keep sinistcha and milotic alive. Turn 2, he gets greedy and sets up shell smash with blastoise, i use icy wind with milotic to slow down the garchomp, sinistcha wakes up, hits both matcha gotchas, leaves blastoise on like 15% health BUT burns both the chomp and the blastoise, after that, their water spout isnt gonna be strong enough so i can just rage powder + icy wind for more damage on the garchomp. They forfeit.

double burn definitely makes up for the fact that dire claw landed both a poison on my froslass and a sleep on my sinistcha.

[chrome knot]

i steal bunbun team omomom

[real prairie]

would white herb arch not be better?

[chrome knot]

probably a play until u die arch

where u just wanna slam as much damage into electro shot as possible

[ripe grail]

Finally made it to 1950s smh

[versed river]

all the people saying tera sucks actually after they spent 4 years glazing it 😭 new toy syndrome is crazy

[chrome knot]

i think tera was cool but tera for 4 years wasn’t so cool

like many things it will get old after awhile

[versed river]

yeah i agree but now people are saying it sucked and was badly designed and was never fun LOL

[chrome knot]

oohhhh ok those people aren’t real no

[versed river]

ya

[real prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSamJ5plm-4

[chrome knot]

emma version of bunny team

maya ur bunny is broken

[hasty night]

Unbelievable how top 500 isn't even Champion tier yet

If that's the case I don't think I'll be making it to Champion at all LOL

Also super frustrating how if you aren't able to play one or more days you'll decay in rank and it'll be even more difficult to place higher

[chrome knot]

because its a hard cut at top300?😭

[chrome knot]

youre not decaying people are just passing you in elo lmao

[indigo coral]

Out of curiosity, do you have a rental by chance?

[chrome knot]

non and switch far awaaay

[indigo coral]

Would you mind making a rental when you get a chance? Your team interests me a lot

[hardy sable]

I too would like to see this super bunny break down

[chrome knot]

its jus an edit of @torn parrot bunny team u should talk to her she smarter

[whole fable]

Wanna use M Manectric, rough draft of a team with him, any thoughts?

Orthworm was Replaced for Sinistcha

[red willow]

Would I be absolutely insane for cutting one of Aero Chomp Sneasler Gambit or Basc for Pixilate hyper voice sylveon?

I just dont wanna play with 5 physical mons man lol

I have been informed sylveon is not as fast as I thought

We need to cut one of these mons for a sp attacker though we will get walled out by an impassible high def mon

[timber falcon]

What’s the full team

[red willow]

Mega froslass mega aero chomp basc gambit and sneasler

[leaden fox]

Forgot there is a mainteance tonight on Champions 😅

[real prairie]

Erm....

Recover milotic Vs leech seed mega schovillan

[chrome knot]

pfft

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

butthead i need to show u new iconic picture of me that was taken at mario kart lan lmfao

[craggy dagger]

wah-?

[chrome knot]

look dm

[teal cairn]

Is there any meta stall team rn

[zinc edge]

Took a lot of work but I finally hit master ball baby

[bold geode]

[lavish frost]

I didnt know maya was here too lol

[merry cliff]

can someone help me w my team, struggling to find two guys to finish out my squad

im rocking mgengar, whimsi, incineroar, and corviknight. was thinking maybe alolan ninetales, milo, ttar, sinistcha, politoed, archal as some options

[spark siren]

Should I change my support Volcarona’s stat spread?

[indigo coral]

I like Milotic and Sinistcha personally. I feel like Whimsicott and Corviknight also overlap a decent bit, maybe consider also cutting Whimsicott for Encore Alolan Ninetales and using Corviknight for Tailwind as well?

[wheat rapids]

any immediate thoughts/problems? I was running whimsicott before over corv, but my team was pretty weak to gambit and desperately wanted a flying and a steel type, plus corv is like a top 5 all time fav of mine lol so he was kind of a shoe in

gard is a secondary mega and my counter to faster tailwind teams, as well as trick room teams. unless they lead gambit its like an auto win

I was considering running sludge bomb and hex on gengar but idk

obv im spec'd heavily for bulk under the assumption ill either be outspeeding anyways under tailwind (or trick room)

[river tangle]

Made it to master ball tier

[noble hatch]

tbh ive been a big talonflame fan and it looks like it could be another option for you if you are finding corviknight isnt working

[wheat rapids]

true, yeah talonflame would def fit very well. I actually used to run him, alongside whims lol as a different option but needed more slots so i cut him

faster tailwind, and can burn which is good into the likes of gambit. but if willo misses i cry

Is there a world I run willo on gengar for gambit sucker punches?

or at that point do i just go substitute

[noble hatch]

i ran a very offensive talonflame tbh

[wheat rapids]

brave bird flare blitz protect tailwind?

[noble hatch]

tailwind, brave bird, dual wingbeat and flare blitz

[wheat rapids]

mm

id prob get willo or protect in there for my purposes

[noble hatch]

talonflame being able to hit so hard with priority i find is just better than the utility

[wheat rapids]

yeah thats fair

[chrome knot]

hey idot

[indigo coral]

You should be running Sludge Bomb over Sludge Wave on Gengar, especially if you're thinking about cutting your literally only immunity to a move that hits your own teammate. I'm also not sold on Focus Blast personally, it's extremely RNG reliant and can easily lose you games that you would have won if you had clicked any accurate move. If you're up to removing Focus Blast, try Disable, Substitute, or Perish Song in that slot.

Sand Veil and Bright Powder are meme tier and not at all competitively viable on Garchomp, even on Sand teams you'd always rather run Rough Skin and an actual useful item that's not luck dependent and potentially doing literally nothing. With both Sand Veil and Bright Powder active they still have a 72% chance to hit you, you don't even reduce it to a 50/50 and it is still in their favor to hit you. Garchomp would also prefer to invest in Speed over Attack, without being fast you are getting outsped and OHKOd by things you normally should outspeed and OHKO yourself. ESPECIALLY Blizzard, which your opponents can overwrite your Sand with due to Mega Froslass happening after Switch ins, and Blizzard bypassing accuracy checks entirely to avoid Bright Powder. Same applies to Hurricane if they overwrite your Sand with Rain, it bypasses accuracy checks entirely and has no possibility at all to miss even with Bright Powder. That ability also does nothing into Sun teams since Mega Charizard happens after any Tyranitar switch-ins. That's most of the meta where your ability does literally nothing and you would rather have Rough Skin and a non-luck based actually useful item 100% of the time.

Gardevoir probably shouldn't have Mystical Fire and should ideally run Psychic instead. Of the relevant Steel types that it would hit, most of them have priority moves that outspeed and either OHKO you first or deal massive dmaage to you anyways. People are already teching to OHKO Mega Floette, Gardevoir is definitely something they can easily beat as well.

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[chrome knot]

yuh huh

monke they released pictures from mario kart world major and i look so silly in them😭

[wheat rapids]

I mean, a 30% accuracy debuff on all moves is pretty good 😅 When ran with sand, the majority of tourney winners are running sand veil/bright powder. With the current items available prob seems the best, the second clear amulet gets added I'll be running that tho. I'm not usually letting blizzard be up by leading ttar either, as is usual weather strategy. Regarding investing in speed over bulk, any chance you have an example spread for that? But yeah regarding switch ins, 99% of games I'm not leading ttar and have him in the back to overwrite any sand, otherwise... yeah im just bad lol.

Yeah I agree on mystical fire, it's kinda just there until I find something I like more... psychic or psyshock would def be good, I guess I'm worried of making my steel matchup even worse? Hence mystical fire. Is there a world where I run protect though and just spam hyper voice anyways

[wheat rapids]

add chomp to that list as well

[indigo coral]

There is a world where you run Protect and just spam Hyper Voice, for sure. That would also help if you end up in a position where you have Gengar/Garchomp and Gardevoir on the field together as well. Though another option for Gardevoir is to run Telepathy pre-mega so that Earthquake, Sludge Wave, etc have an additional immunity on your team besides just Corviknight

[wheat rapids]

yeah when i ran non mega garv with scarf, telepathy was really good

I basically never bring gard with gengar though, since I just pick one mega or the other (maybe there's times I should be bringing both due to some very strange matchup but I haven't recognized that yet)

so when i do bring her Im pretty much always just clicking mega lol. so trace gets extra marginal value

if i copy intimidate or something (rarely does it get value tho)

but, yes maybe telepathy is better because I can switch her into my own earthquake before I mega her, if I don't lead her

that's definitely worth considering. especially with how useless trace usually is lol

like i could lead chomp ttar and then hard switch ttar into gard if the need arises

i think im gonna try protect and telepathy

[indigo coral]

From what I saw on Twitter, Trace is completely random in Champions currently and doesn't work like it used to / should where you could position correctly to get what ability you want. It's okay for information gathering in CTS, but in OTS it's functionally even more niche than it normally is

[wheat rapids]

What do you think of the corv set? Obviously slow tailwind isnt ideal, but in the context of my team, vs fast tailwind I usually just lead gard for aforementioned reasons. I do miss ID tho

[wheat rapids]

yeah ive noticed and wondered about that lol.

[indigo coral]

Corviknight set is good, I'm not sure about the EVs since I haven't calced up any sets or used Corviknight myself. The only move I can maybe see wanting is Iron Defense to potentially sweep with Body Press? And obviously you'd definitely prefer Leftovers but you're already using that elsewhere so Sitrus is the next best thing

[wheat rapids]

yeah. i think because of milo's set up set, i dont want to be so weak to encore so maybe the current set is best

the EVs are to hit my personal fav 101 speed benchmark to outspeed base 130s after tailwind

(they dont have tailwind)

which, might be useless. idk i havent put a ton of time/research into the speed tiering tbh

but i figure if i can outspeed non tailwind mega gengar thats prob fast enough

milo, ttar, and corv are all 101 speed lmao

idk if thats a bad thing

[indigo coral]

I've seen people going up to outspeed base 135 so they can outspeed Mega Lopunny Encore, but otherwise yeah it's entirely personal preference

[wheat rapids]

mm

mega lopunny might be worth to target for someone like ttar so he can hit her. not really sure with what though

Any chance you have champions handy to whip out common spreads?

i really wish all the tourney teams would post their spreads lol

aggregate data is good but team-specific-context is much better

[indigo coral]

I would also recommend having Milotic, Tyranitar, and Corviknight at different speeds so that you can predict what order they will attack in. Speed Ties are something you usually want to avoid if possible since it makes planning your turn easier if you know what order attacks will happen in

[indigo coral]

I do not unfortunately, but I know Jamie Boyt has multiple different spreads for both Milotic and Garchomp in his videos on them. Can't check myself at the moment but if you have YouTube access those would be good places to start. He even has bulky spreads for Garchomp as well

[wheat rapids]

I was thinking that too, however i dont think it really matters? Like I don't think there's ever a moment where I want one to go before the other

well

maybe corv slightly faster for tailwind..?

[next stump]

Pokémon is a game about information management and planning, you don’t want to have speed tying pokemon if you can avoid it

[wheat rapids]

but if its corvs turn then its ttars already too lol so i dont think it matters

[wheat rapids]

sure but if my plan is to rock slide and muddy water, it doesnt really matter right

[indigo coral]

You have spread moves on a couple mons, and those have different damage output based on whether your opponent has 1 Pokemon alive or 2. Being able to use one of them to get a KO, then have higher damage on the spread move for the second can be crucial

[wheat rapids]

no youre right tho. it matters if one hit will kill one first so i can target better with single target moves

yeah true. good points

[next stump]

But you won’t click that every turn, what if you need to Knock Off after Milotic KOs something

[wheat rapids]

btw should i be running dark on ttar

i feel like i get a lot of mileage out of the current set

And; based on that, yall convinced me, how do you think i should break up these ties 👀

[indigo coral]

I run Knock Off over Ice Punch myself, I tried Ice Punch but found it wasn't really doing enough to justify not having Knock Off access

[wheat rapids]

its murdered many garchomps for me 👀

maybe ill make ttar slower than 202 in tailwind. Any key tiers yall would recommend?

im already slower than choice chomp

[indigo coral]

I would say Corviknight fastest of the three since you want to set Tailwind asap and Corviknight has only single target moves, then I'd say Tyranitar next since it has a mix between single target and spread moves, and Milotic last since it has both spread moves and Coil to naturally boost speed

[merry cliff]

But I need a weather setter for weather wars

so ig yea encore alolan ninetales would be huge

[wheat rapids]

a9 is really good

encore aveil blizzard moonblast, or icy wind and protect if youre more supportive

[indigo coral]

Four of those six generally yeah, Ninetales has options

[wheat rapids]

coil doesnt boost speed 👀

[merry cliff]

but would I have enough attack power with mgengar, corv, incin, alolan ninetales, milo, and sinis?

[wheat rapids]

youd prob want a more offensive ninetales and a more offensive incin with that squad

unless youre perish gengar

[merry cliff]

not perish

[wheat rapids]

then you dont really need offense right?

oh ok. id prob consider swapping out sinis then

[wheat rapids]

i think im gonna drop ttars speed so he can outspeed meow, weavile, those types at like, what 196? 0 speed milo is at 101 speed, so

@indigo coral thanks btw for the boyt plug, i see now his videos are very useful

[gentle crag]

tomb99 has given 1 Gen Rep to aereon767455

[wheat rapids]

copying this gard set. was wondering if there was anything I could do that'd live dire claw

i still get roasted n toasted by an iron head from gambit but thats fine

[next stump]

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[wheat rapids]

Is running encore over psychic troll? I've been finding good usage out of it so i guess not, especially with all the cursed sets going around

[strong anchor]

Encore is always a viable option

Locking into a boost move or similar

I just realized how hard it is to get a apri aerodactyl.
Is sun moon the only option?

[pearl wind]

legends ZA

[strong anchor]

Ugh...forgot that

Who are the best tw setters atm

[dense latch]

aerodactyl and whimsicott

depends on what your team needs

[strong anchor]

Guess aero it is.

[jaunty cargo]

I want to use aurorous but I really don’t know what to do with it it seems really bad

[spark siren]

Should I go max HP and Def on Volcarona (doubles)?

[indigo coral]

No problem! :D

[wheat rapids]

yeahhh i wanted a shiny beast ball and was like... i dont wanna breed in swsh lol

[wheat rapids]

yeah i prob would be running aero if i didnt already have the rock slide brothers on my squad

[spark siren]

i hate kingambit

supreme overlord should be banned

[noble hatch]

anyone know if there are any non-megas that can one shot milotic?

[wheat rapids]

Probably depends on the spread but I’d imagine a rain boosted electro shot can fry it

[noble hatch]

nope, need something that will one shot on its own

[wheat rapids]

helping hand 😅

[noble hatch]

nope dont got any helping handers on my team XD

[wheat rapids]

ok i cooked the evs a bit more and am gonna experiment with the diff gengar set

guy has like 250 spatk unboosted lol

[noble hatch]

dang literally the only option for a physical attacker for electric types is luxray lol

[wheat rapids]

chomp lives a floette dazzling gleam, ttar lives sneasler cc, and they outspeed most things under tailwind

[noble hatch]

ok so miracle seed meowscarada has a 19% chance to ohko milotic

assuming milotic has max hp and def investments

tsareena can ohko milotic 100% of the time but only if she lands power whip (and isnt intimidated)

[strange fjord]

I just redeemed my VP from the battle pass and I dropped 10k placements. bruh I can't snooze or I lose.

[forest pecan]

What's your Snorlax set ?

Hi, I can't find any data about how boosted the electric attack from bellibolt is after being hit. Is it 50% ? 100% ?

[strange fjord]

2 HP, 32 Atk, 32 SpD, High Horsepower, Rock Slide, Heat Crash, Protect. Mainly used to counter VenuChar teams

Snarl w/ Zoroark weakens Charizard Y, breaks sash on Venu and OHKO's Venu with Heat Crash, and kills Char with Rock Slide

and Lum cures sleep

[left bobcat]

Torta

[next stump]

Effect

If a Pokémon with Electromorphosis is hit by an attack, the power of the next Electric-type move it uses is doubled

[chrome flume]

Anyone here know a good mega steelix team? (Can include other megas but this is for Pokémon champions doubles)

[dry nexus]

someone pulled a double flinch at me, I just gave them the win at that point

[noble hatch]

i got triple flinched + burned earlier today and still pulled out a win

[knotty briar]

Been working on a rain team
Anyone got any improvements in mind?

I was considering scarf Rotom

[dry nexus]

I just cannot be bothered with the busted rng of this game, I had my milotic flinched 4 times in a row then got crit to death

[noble hatch]

you know what they say about luck

sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit

[dry nexus]

I just believe RNG is busted at this point, I wouldn't put it past ILCA

[noble hatch]

i mean there are ways to mitigate flinches

im guessing it was rock slide flinches?

[knotty briar]

The sheer amount of times I've gotten Aaron Zhenged because my Incineroar didn't want to land a will-o-wisp caused me to just stop using the move in general

[dry nexus]

most wide guard users are awful mons and the decent ones don't fit with my team

[knotty briar]

Pelipper

[noble hatch]

i mean if it was rock slide

[dry nexus]

I missed triple axel twice in a row on 2 consecutive games

[noble hatch]

you can only get flinched if they move first

consider getting better speed control

[dry nexus]

like I said, does not fit with my team

[noble hatch]

inner focus is another good option

[knotty briar]

Aerodactyl perhaps

[noble hatch]

non-mega scarfed lucario is really nice and i've been using it on one team

[dry nexus]

I considered it but that would mean giving up my weather counter

[knotty briar]

Aerodactyl gets both wide guard and tailwind
Plus, you can threaten flinches with your own rock slide

And while weather is pretty dominant right now, I wouldn't call it a requirement

[dry nexus]

my weather counter doubles as tailwind user

it just sucks altaria doesn't have wide guard

[knotty briar]

Ah cloud nine

Though Altaria is pretty niche if you aren't running mega

[dry nexus]

it's sitrus berry

altaria is decently bulky

and it's heat wave has a clutch potential

[knotty briar]

What's your team looking like?

[dry nexus]

nothing really set in stone now, but the mainstays are
Altaria (Cloud Nine)
Sneasler (Unburden)
Scarfed Adaptability Basculegion

now that I think about it maybe I can put in a mega aerodactyl

[knotty briar]

Aerodactyl uses sash most of the time, but Mega Aerodactyl is still something to be aware of so yeah

Plus you'd be able to bring it alongside another mega like Meganium or Tyranitar and have wide guard and tailwind support

Dual mega teams are rare but still strong

[dry nexus]

yeah I have zard x on my 2nd mega slot

[knotty briar]

That's interesting
Zard y is one of the most dominant megas atm

[chrome knot]

uh

[dry nexus]

I gave it thunder punch 💀

[knotty briar]

I have no expertise with zard x so I can't give any advice with it

[dry nexus]

he's given me decent performance so I'll try sticking with it a bit longer

[knotty briar]

Do you have anything to stop or punish trick room?

[dry nexus]

I would brute force it if there are no redirectors on the field

I do run fling king's rock on my sneasler

[knotty briar]

Oh now that's interesting

That would definitely stop Farigiraf or Sinistcha from getting it up

Assuming no fake out from tr ally

[dry nexus]

didnt give mine fake out

I did upper hand for the memes

[knotty briar]

I meant something like Incineroar paired with Farigiraf to guarantee the tr

[knotty briar]

Love that meme

[dry nexus]

I don't see them much anymore but I love using it against kingambit sucker punch

[knotty briar]

Losing knock off REALLY hurt the cat, but it's still an excellent mon

[dry nexus]

basculegion looking like tasty sucker punch meal for them

[knotty briar]

Yeah Kingambit is a mon I don't see too often

[dry nexus]

I had farigiraf as my anti priority, but I'm gonna check how tsareena does in this game

[graceful scaffold]

LMAO had sucker punch miss my bright powder sand veil chomp twice so i won

[chrome knot]

where are you

that guy is a must have in the format rock paper scissors

[molten oasis]

Yeah kingambit is on a bunch of teams

He’s kinda the goat

[noble hatch]

knock off isnt as good rn anyways

since it doesnt work on megas

[molten oasis]

You can knock off every other mons items?

It’s not really around cuz there’s no notable mons that use it since incin lost it

[chrome knot]

tyranitar

[noble hatch]

i didnt say it was bad, just not as good

[molten oasis]

Oops

Forgot about that my bad

But that’s also it I believe

Imagine if you could knock off mega stones tho that would be wild

[noble hatch]

or just get the power boost at least

[dry nexus]

now what would be a funny nickname for tsareena

[chrome knot]

saladbar

[knotty briar]

Master ball

[bold geode]

Dave

Josh
Happy birthday Josh

[chrome knot]

bruh how haven’t you seen gambit

like every team features sneasler gambit basc

[bold geode]

He's in Poke Ball tier 5 don't listen to him

[bold geode]

Me only having one of those guys

[chrome knot]

i have 2

[bold geode]

And you'll never guess which one of the three it is

[chrome knot]

basc gambit are awesome cool sauce

[bold geode]

Little fuck ass weasel I hate

[knotty briar]

I'm not sure, but even when my opponents have they they don't usually bring it

[noble hatch]

weavile is the superior weasel

[dry nexus]

Sneasler scares tf out of kingambits

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-legends-arceus-pokemon-the-pokemon-company-nintendo-an-antique-gif-25074890

[bold geode]

FISH

[dry nexus]

Mr Fish the 2nd

[bold geode]

Thank you Señor Fishington

[dry nexus]

this gave me a nickname idea for aerodactyl

[bold geode]

I don't like where this is going

[stuck perch]

https://x.com/nerdoutmusic/status/2046928006585737512?s=46&t=KB4CVv355gDMDGNjhuVNuA

NerdOut! (@NerdOutMusic)

- Frost Breath my own Tauros for +12 Attack
- Skill Swap Huge Power to Tauros to double Attack
- Rock Slide to OHKO everything

GG EZ.

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[left bobcat]

Mega frog

[wet light]

https://fixupx.com/nerdoutmusic/status/2046928006585737512?s=46&t=KB4CVv355gDMDGNjhuVNuA playable version

NerdOut! (@NerdOutMusic)

- Frost Breath my own Tauros for +12 Attack
︀︀- Skill Swap Huge Power to Tauros to double Attack
︀︀- Rock Slide to OHKO everything
︀︀
︀︀GG EZ.

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[near crag]

Is it normal for my gc placements not to show up on my rk9 profile? Got like three points in one, but still

[next stump]

they never do on RK9, they’d be on your play pokemon page

[near crag]

It doesn’t appear there either

I did just claim the results a couple hours ago in my switch, but idk if it has something to do with it

[next stump]

was it a scarlet violet GC?

[near crag]

Yeah, the 2026 grand challenge 1, in reg h

Forgot it in there since September

[next stump]

if you properly connected your pokemon account with your switch info then it should be on your play pokemon profile

if you think you did you could contact pokemon support

[near crag]

It’s weird bc my other placements are there. Probably gonna talk to the support, as you said

[jade dust]

Hi I have a question about the Pokemon vgc events. So what’s the difference between cup, league, challenge and so on?

Do all give Championship points?

[chrome knot]

league & friendly tournament are just tournaments that don’t get any pts, usually free entry

challenge is lowest form of point gaining locals, usually followed with a entry fee & prize pool

cup is highest form of point gaining locally, followed by higher entry fee & usually larger prize pool with more pts able to be obtained

challenge is like 15 12 and so on depending on participants & cup is 50 40 and so on depending on participants

[chrome knot]

actually league is more like a for fun meeting day u can jus show up and play wit people & hangout, theyre pretty fun

[bold geode]

It kicked me out mid game cuz of maintenance
I stg if that counts as a loss

[tropic minnow]

Is ts actually gonna last 3 hours

[foggy lodge]

champions addicts we will be able to touch grass for 3 hours

[tropic minnow]

🥀

[jade dust]

Thanks Emma

[gentle crag]

shrekers has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi

[jade dust]

So I want to play in cups and challenge then

[stuck perch]

https://x.com/twitchrivals/status/2047027773571580328?s=46&t=KB4CVv355gDMDGNjhuVNuA

Twitch Rivals (@TwitchRivals)

This is where it all begins...

📍 @pokemon_champs on Twitch Rivals.
🗓️ Apr 29, 2pm PT
📺 /TwitchRivals

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[waxen dock]

Its in the play pokemon tab in the official site

[waxen dock]

You probably connected ypu account after that

[timber falcon]

What would the core of a team like this be?

I’m struggling to understand this concept a lot more in team building than I thought

[spiral zealot]

the patch notes after maintenance today:
https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/71525/

[cyan smelt]

should i switch to toxic orb gliscor to get around this scovillain stuff

oh wait toxic orb isn't in the game fml

[noble hatch]

wanna know what item i miss?

covert cloak

[cyan smelt]

how they gonna have gliscor in the game but no toxic orb

[noble hatch]

god i love sandaconda

[mighty stump]

Just looks like a more offensively leaning balance team

[noble hatch]

just made a mega meganium miss 4 solar beams in a row

[mighty stump]

Theory seems to be controlling the board states while pressuring opp with either poor positions or constant chip/offense

[dry nexus]

I miss eviolite

[timber falcon]

im not seeing FWG or fantasy core, which is why im stumped. When team building im not sure how to reach a point where im not constantly relying on those 2 "cores".

[timber falcon]

I think I’ve been looking into type synergy too much that I’ve forgotten there’s other ways mons work together actually

[jade dust]

All Sneaslers are jolly right?

[pearl wind]

no

[spiral zealot]

i think some of them are adamant

[jade dust]

Ah damn

252 Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs. 84 HP / 132 Def Floette-Mega: 134-158 (83.7 - 98.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

This is already investing a lot in def and I want to have enough speed as well

But it’s against jolly

I have 30 points in speed

[chrome knot]

ngl all my floettes have been 32 hp & like 20 def

[jade dust]

So you don’t invest into speed?

[chrome knot]

not rly

[near crag]

I don’t think so, bc there are results from all the way back in march 2025, and that was September

[jade dust]

252+ Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Incineroar: 192-228 (95 - 112.8%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

Fuck why can’t you possibly make Incin live that

[spiral zealot]

did you account for intimidate

[jade dust]

White herb

It’s the most common item

[spiral zealot]

true

not every pokemon is meant to survive a super-effective attack from a 130 attack stat mon

[spiral zealot]

would u wanna run Chople berry incin

unless its already being used by something else on your team

[lavish frost]

Currently running chople on mine just to take a neutral sneasler cc

[jade dust]

I currently run the ground type one

Since I have Garchomp on my team

[timber falcon]

where can i see pokemon champions tournament results?

[real prairie]

most of them have been limitless tourneys no? probably check there

https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments?game=VGC

Hit 2100, one final push for CT. Still not gelling with my team though

[timber falcon]

ty

[gentle crag]

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to averagejack_yt

[strong anchor]

Atm im lacking the swsh dlc, so thats out too.

[cyan smelt]

up to 1413 on showdown, i think the team is actually ok but i probably need to ladder more tomorrow, IK the ladder is up to like 1710 or something crazy

[lavish frost]

I fought someone in the 1700s today on showdown using a sash farig lmao

The sash screwed me over haha

[real prairie]

any big things with todays update?

[real prairie]

yeah allows it to run max SpAtk and be a surprising threat

[chrome knot]

just a bug fix

[cyan smelt]

today i have found that mega kangaskhan deletes mega floette

[spark siren]

Fake out parental bond?

[opaque remnant]

how viable is mega delphox?
i sent mine into Champions for the free delphoxite and i was wondering how good it would be

[zinc edge]

It's solid on the right team @opaque remnant

[opaque remnant]

:i see i see, ty

[gentle crag]

lunastarr_69 has given 1 Gen Rep to darkxchroma

[zinc edge]

I've opted for mega skarmory as my mega 🤣 next to coil milotic they are my backline and refuse to die

[cerulean nacelle]

Levitate means it's a great chomp partner.

[zinc edge]

Does anyone know the elo requirements for each rank of champions

Or each rank of master ball I meant

[cerulean nacelle]

Can't remember what it is specifically but I know master rank 2 is within the top 10,000 or such.

Master rank 1 is within 1000

And champion rank is top 300.

[zinc edge]

Jesus what's the people in champion rank elo rn does anyone know

I just want to know how hard I'm gonna need to push 🤣

[cerulean nacelle]

I have no clue honestly. I'm at around uh... 1950? And I'm master rank 2. The very low end (like close to 8000th place or something)

So those in champion rank are definitely probably gonna be 2200+ probably.

[zinc edge]

Ok I'm sitting right at 1800 elo so I'm not to far below you in theory

About what like 7ish wins

[leaden fox]

I believe the next online competition will have registrations either up now or soon

[zinc edge]

Oh fr

No comp found

Or is it an i.d. comp

[leaden fox]

https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/onlinecompetitions/globalchallenge2026i.shtml

Ah, it's delayed until tomorrow for the registry

Just confirmed it since they are giving us a "special recruit roster" option for it

https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/recruit/globalchallenge2026specialroster.shtml

[zinc edge]

So the prize is a venasuar 🤣

[leaden fox]

Yep 😅
No CP though, at least until October I believe?

[lavish frost]

Aurorus clutch lol

[zinc edge]

I'm gonna try to hit 1900 elo today

@cerulean nacelle you busy ?

[waxen dock]

Time to make somw japanese kid not qualify for worlds and to another one to qualify instead

(Next week)

They did it to me once in a way against the rules

While i do it in a way legit to the rules

[leaden fox]

I need to really consider what type of team to run for sure

[opaque remnant]

got a cool strat i think is pretty viable
Ceruledge on Weak Armor and Weakness Policy with Iron Defense and Bitter Blade

the only weakness it has is SpD, but it’s really strong if both factors work

[waxen dock]

Iron defense?

Bro.aint cooking

[solid frigate]

That’s like a thing since SV but without ID shit and it’s very incompetent tbh

[waxen dock]

You just die one shot or two shot

[opaque remnant]

it’s strong if it works tho

[solid frigate]

If you want to play set up then Swords Dance Should be good enough

[waxen dock]

So its good in 1%

And not good in 99%

[opaque remnant]

the iron defense is to cancel out weak armor’s defense lowering and still giving you speed
and if you get hit by a supereffective move then that gives you weakness policy

[waxen dock]

You just get one shot

With scarf basc or something

Or even ttr or something

[opaque remnant]

and if you don’t?

[waxen dock]

Then you have +2 20 hp mon that dies next turn

[opaque remnant]

sigh
at least he’ll be suped up

Weak Armor and Policy by itself is still a good concept imo, i js don’t know the right one to give it to

glass cannon typeshii

[leaden fox]

Will be viable when WP is in Champions

[opaque remnant]

ikkk, it sucks that it’s not ingame yet

[leaden fox]

It does yeah; I want to use Rhyperior (which is in-game) with WP 😅

Obviously Rhyperior will be better in Dynamax (when that eventually happens); but still viable if you build the right team

Example: Jolly Weavile with Surf alongside WP Solid Rock Rhyperior

[opaque remnant]

yeh i get that
me personally i’d rather use WP or WA with a mon on a drain move, like with Ceruledge and Bitter Blade, if you’re fast enough you get your hp back pretty fast

[leaden fox]

Yeah, I just know Trick Room is at least not an issue thanks to Farig

[gentle crag]

djdanny88 has given 1 Gen Rep to lunastarr_69

[opaque remnant]

true true

[leaden fox]

Honestly loved Farig once I used them + knew of Armor Tail xD

[opaque remnant]

i’ve never tried them 😭
i’m usually more of a Ghost/Dark/Dragon user i’m ngl

[cerulean nacelle]

I'm ngl all the farigiraf stuff i see makes me wanna use mega camerupt again.

[leaden fox]

About that; I am watching a YT video of a Trick Room team with Mega Aboma and Mega Camer xD

[cerulean nacelle]

Pokeaimmd

I've seen that. I am actually interested in it.

[leaden fox]

That is fair; shame Dusclops + Eviolite isn't in T_T

[leaden fox]

At least glad you know which vid xD

[cerulean nacelle]

Mega abomasnow is not one I've used a lot. I'd be interested in actually utilising snow room because I wasn't about for when hailroom was prevelant.

[opaque remnant]

true true

[cerulean nacelle]

Honestly, if blastoise wasn't running rampant I'd say use runerigus

[leaden fox]

Though they said only Fully evolved mons will be focused on for a while (except Pikachu xD)

[leaden fox]

Yep, though only faced maybe two Mega Blasts overall myself

[cyan smelt]

double edge destroys mega floette

[zinc edge]

Yo so I just did a calc check and I'm so confused 🤔

[torpid hearth]

Blastoise causes me so much pain i hate it

[zinc edge]

Blastoise gets obliterated by my sunroom team 🤣

Yo @cerulean nacelle very important question

I just did a calc because I've been leaving garchomps on 2-6 % after my double eruption so I did a calc on it and that should only happen if it's a max spdef careful garchomp so wtf is going on here I know no one is running that set so why is every chomp I go against apparently that ?

[cerulean nacelle]

I honestly don't know? I use a very standard max max chomp spread. Maybe it's a super bulky variant?

[zinc edge]

Yeah but I feel like it's every chomp 🤣

[cerulean nacelle]

I honestly dk. Chomp does resist, so maybe it's just that. I honestly dk.

[zinc edge]

I'm running max spAtk charcoal torkoal and when I did the calc that guaranteed 2 shots the avg chomp

Maybe it's max hp chomps I'm running into ?

NVM I figured out what I was doing wrong

I wasn't selecting doubles 🤣

To adjust for the dmg drop off of the spread move

[cerulean nacelle]

Ah that'll do it lol. Yeah the 75% thing definitely will get ya.

[leaden fox]

Hmmm 🤔 What team should I possibly run for Global Challenge coming up? 🤔

I have many options after all

But don't want to default on "Mega Floette" 😅

[wheat rapids]

i think my team is in its final form

any reqs for improvement? I think at this point itll just come down to testing and stuff so i dont think there're any glaring issues, but ya

maybe no psychic on gard will hurt but encore is so useful

[leaden fox]

Honestly does look like a solid setup; just need to keep practicing that team is all

I think I will likely have to run double Megas in my teams for the upcoming GC 😅

Got an idea of certain mons to run thankfully

[wheat rapids]

yep my thoughts as well. Picking the right 4 to bring is gonna be the hardest part for me

[real prairie]

These animations are mad!

[wheat rapids]

i like it tbh. Makes it less easy for your opponents to decide what to bring, in my case having mega garde as the secondary is really nice because she can just dunk on any TR or tailwind lead

[wheat rapids]

what pokemon would be like if it was peak

but ig a million animations would make stuff go longer

[real prairie]

Maybe in another 30 years

[leaden fox]

Yeah, I think if I run Double Megas so I can counter certain plays, I'll be fine

[wheat rapids]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2592173543-m9ak7nh8el12jb6i17mwrf6stq2vg9cpw my god this was satisfying

trick room garchomp lmao

i assumed volcarona would be tailwind or smt but even if it went first i was like, its not gonna do much to chomper

i lowkey bring mega gardevoir way more than gengar 😅 i need to find times when gengar is actually useful to bring lol

[leaden fox]

Already have an idea what to run for my four mons outside of Megas; but that may change a little depending on the Megas I pick

Got about 8 Megas I want to pick and choose from at least xD

[wheat rapids]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2592205226-qc9ku2twyrabcb7dftyy3dwexqhm9grpw kind of a pog game

[sudden remnant]

do we know when the reg after m-a will be announced

[leaden fox]

Likely a week before it ends; so I think 6th May

if not, we have to keep waiting 😅

[chrome knot]

m-a goes until after naic

[leaden fox]

Ah yeah, my mistake, M-A S1 and S2 are the current ones

So next Mega Reg won't be likely announced until Jun 6th at the earliest

But obviously not start until mid June to start of July

[sudden remnant]

😨

[leaden fox]

Hmmm, makes you curious if they won't add more mons and items until then 😅

[lost sun]

can't wait for the reg that only has bright powder quick claw and berries as items

[bold geode]

@chrome knot no they gave Mega Aerodactyl As One oh no

[clever root]

Tryna build a mega chesnaught team, all i know i need rn is
Chesnaught
Farigiraf
Redirection (maushold or clef probs)

[wheat rapids]

im gonna be real sad once this reg is over

and tera and legendaries get introduced

and im forced to conform to ugly meta mons 😔

[leaden fox]

@wheat rapids Nah, next reg will be still Megas, but likely another lot of Megas we didn't have before 😅 As well as some other mons like Indeedee, Rillaboom, etc 😅

[pearl wind]

pls grimmsnarl pls grimmsnarl pls grimmsnarl

[sudden remnant]

customer: “can i get a mocha ice capp add chocolate syrup?”
coworker: “alright a mocha ice capp with extra mocha”
customer : “no, mocha ice capp add chocolate syrup”

[leaden fox]

That is highly likely too

[wheat rapids]

i have my ttar spec'd EVs specifically to survive a sneasler cc

but if theyre adamant he dies anyways

yall think its still worth to do that?

[sudden remnant]

who has your focus sash

[wheat rapids]

no one

[chrome knot]

asking for 9/11 to happen again

[sudden remnant]

give ttar sash

[wheat rapids]

any recommendation on EVs? Just dump into attack I guess?

[sudden remnant]

yeah

attack and speed and maybe 1 hp 1 defense or smthn

[sudden remnant]

im just waiting for mawile to get added in

[jade dust]

I think this is the final form of my team

[sudden remnant]

heres mine

the glare is hiding Mr Bubbles the Araquanid and Cannon the Mega Manectric

[jade dust]

I was swapping around Rotom, Basc and Blastoise but I think Milotic is my best option here for a water type

[sudden remnant]

yes im running meow without a dark move

[cerulean nacelle]

Nah it'll be new megas before legends. I'm not looking forward to restricted format either but fuck it we ball.

[wheat rapids]

have you been using SD on chomp? how is it?

[jade dust]

Yes, pretty good to not be slowed down by incin. Also you can OHKO gambit and other stuff

[sudden remnant]

does anyone have a spare sneasler 🫩 i thought i had one but i dont

i wanna do coaching stuff with araquanid

and meow +1 meow would go crazy fr

[jade dust]

I have multiple in my Legends Arceus game. DM Vex and we can trade

[sudden remnant]

🤝

ill message you a bit later im at work rn so i cant really be on my switch

[sudden remnant]

so apparently Marcos Moxieboosted Perez is using Zard X

[cerulean nacelle]

Zard x I do feel like is Mr potential mon.

[sudden remnant]

Moxieboosted seems to agree with you

[twin viper]

ok

so not relaly competitive related but which one should i run for za story mode

skarmory
charizard

[sudden remnant]

both

[twin viper]

...

ugh

my team is
feraligatr
gardevoir
gallade (will prob switch with either heracross or lucario)
excadrill
eelektross

[cerulean nacelle]

I'd say whatever mon you like more. I'd honestly say skarm because mega skarmory is underwhelming in champions so you probably won't use him.

[twin viper]

i'm talking about story

dudes at general told me to go here

[pallid hare]

given the team composition, I'd pick charizard since you already have a steel type in excadrill

[twin viper]

what physical steel move should i get

[pallid hare]

for excadrill? iron head

thats the best it'll get

[zinc edge]

Maybe try lza discussion and lza comp for this @twin viper

Anyone wanna do some battles so I can tweak my team

[twin viper]

alright should i get heracross or lucario or keep gallade

[spark siren]

how much base power does Psycho Cut increase via Sharpness?

[formal parrot]

I didn't notice Hydro Pump got its 120 BP back

No wonder it hit harder than usual

[sudden remnant]

goes from 70 to 105

sharpness increases the move by 50%

half of 70 is 35

[spark siren]

ah ok. so there's a reason to use base form gallade over mega form because of sharpness?

[sudden remnant]

i mean

[sudden remnant]

125 with 105 bp vs 165 with 70 bp

[jade dust]

Same lol

[twin viper]

got it

but i just have one more question

gallade or heracross or lucario

[pallid hare]

given your team composition, heracross

[twin viper]

wait

would i still be able to use píxilate or do abilities not exist

[spark siren]

Would this build be good for Gallade: Sacred Sword, Psycho Cut, Leaf Blade, Shadow Sneak (Choice Scarf)

[sudden remnant]

ummmmmmmmm sorry i wouldnt be able to say for sure try and see how you like it

[cyan smelt]

Scarf and shadow sneak sounds bad

[sudden remnant]

maybe its a tailroom team and they want a move it can still click?

[cyan smelt]

You definitely want protect on gallade

[spark siren]

its for singles

[sudden remnant]

oh that changes a lot

i def can’t help with that one

[spark siren]

i am struggling to rank up in ultra tier singles.

[next stump]

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Pokémon Champions (@Pokemon_Champs)

[Maintenance Notice]

#PokemonChampions will undergo maintenance on 4/24 @ 3:00 UTC to resolve the following issue:

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Please note that the app will be unavailable during the maintenance period. Thank you for your understanding!

X · Apr 24, 2026, 2:00 AM

[supple latch]

I was wondering why Sitrus Berry was acting out sometimes

[knotty briar]

I was in the middle of a match when the maintenance hit...

[stark yew]

Maintain hit mid match while I was in full control bruh ☠️

[timber falcon]

So this happened to everyone

[jaunty cargo]

Didn’t we get maintenence yesterday?

[stuck perch]

https://x.com/serebiinet/status/2047495743037116433?s=46&t=KB4CVv355gDMDGNjhuVNuA

Serebii.net (@SerebiiNet)

Serebii Update: The Pokémon Champions Global Challenge 2026 I online completition has opened registration.

Registration is open until May 4th at 01:59 UTC. Battles run from May 1st at 02:00 UTC

Players get a Venusaur for playing 3 battles.

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X · Apr 24, 2026, 2:00 AM

[cyan smelt]

Niiiice gary

[bold geode]

Yeah but there was another bug that came from that maintenance that they're patching now

[spiral zealot]

i think my new delphox team is working well
i did lose a few games on showdown just now but it felt like me misplaying rather than the fault of the team

i see the advantage of using choice scarf on rotom but i still think i'd rather go sitrus berry

https://pokepast.es/ca6c97815ef62870

having alternate forms of speed control is really nice

[cyan smelt]

Rotom is the goat of this format i think

[shadow wind]

Nah that role goes to Basculegion

Scarf Basc just explodes everyone

[cyan smelt]

Last respects needs to be nerfed

[shadow wind]

Needed*

Too late now

[cyan smelt]

I wonder what adaptability last respects gets up to with 3 fainted

I'm not looking forward to the return of annihilape

[molten oasis]

Dawg that list is awful lmao

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/mega-delphox-nintendo-switch-2-pokemon-pokemon-legends-z-a-lumiose-city-gif-4879693764975880083

It will die to psychic

[cyan smelt]

I guess there are tools to manage it now

[molten oasis]

Gengar as well

If metagross comes back at the same time they might be annoying for it

[cyan smelt]

Maus and ape are annoying still

Wonder if anyone besides maya has found success with mega beedrill

[dry nexus]

I have this nagging urge of making prankster sableye work

at the very least against the rock paper scissors trio

[spiral zealot]

sableye is insanely good in closed team sheet like this
i think you'll have a lot of success
it gets so many good moves

i lost incredibly hard to Sableye-MegaGengar Encore-Disable shenanigans the other day

and nobody EVER sees Quash coming

[dry nexus]

the moves in my mind are
will-o-wisp
pain split
quash
idk for 4th but preferably an attacking move just in case of a taunt aero or smthn

not sure about pain split yet but I plan to invest bulk for the sableye

[spiral zealot]

i think most are running foul play right now if they run an attack

it gets some good moves actually
it just doesnt have the highest attacking stats

phantom force could be funny

consider how funny this would be

[real prairie]

Champions is so weird... have a team, go on a win streak, go to bed, wake up, play some more games and its like overnight everyone has added hard couters to my team

[spiral zealot]

yeah it feels really variable session to session how well you'll do
idk if thats down to experience or just the nature of the game

[real prairie]

Have to give them credit I suppose, they managed to create it in such a way that the lack of item diversity has allowed some really diverse teams lol

LOL this is how I imagine "hit itself in confusion" working: https://x.com/konpeitou_i_/status/2047322439030558770

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※最後まで見ることを推奨します。

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X · Apr 23, 2026, 2:31 PM

[spiral zealot]

yeah its pretty awesome
like even tho there are some obvious top tier mons you can still do really different stuff with them

[cyan smelt]

i might hop on now and test the team changes i've made in casual, because i'm too afraid of the showdown ladder atp lol

[real prairie]

sorry what, global challenge has a limited roster lol

OOooo its a recruitment roster lol

that shared the shit out of me

mega heracross should get arm thrust

[dry nexus]

do I pain split or light screen for the sableye

[spiral zealot]

i think light screen is gonna be useful more of the time than pain split

[dry nexus]

yeah I just don't see pain split being useful on someone as squishy as sableye

[cyan smelt]

make sure to give it roseli berry too

[dry nexus]

I think I'll give it sash for now

[real prairie]

mega heracross wins on its debut lol

[dry nexus]

I love this game's RNG

double flinch into a crit

[cyan smelt]

U need inner focus on ur team

[dry nexus]

time to make my whole team revolve around dragonite and mega gallade i guess 💀

[cyan smelt]

Or just lucario

[dry nexus]

my yesterday team was doing better than the team I cooked up earlier

its big problem is there are no special attackers

[real prairie]

im going to give explosion mega Glalie a go

[shadow wind]

Glalie going boom vs a single protect 😔😔😔

Very unfortunate situations

[dry nexus]

evil and intimidating feint sitting in the corner

[shadow wind]

But you’re always getting hit

No ghost types to sit beside it

Hold up

Imprison protect

🧠🧠🧠🧠

[dry nexus]

goat sableye can learn feint

but I guess imprison protect is funnier

[dry nexus]

sableye can do it too

but refrigerate means sableye gets hit too

😢

[real prairie]

Someone beat me to it

[shadow wind]

That’s fire

[real prairie]

Nah, it's cold

[shadow wind]

Ice in his veins

[real prairie]

And his veins all over you

[shadow wind]

🤨🤨🤨

[real prairie]

You know, when he explodes...

[shadow wind]

Jack what time is it for you right now

[real prairie]

That doesn't make it much better

[real prairie]

12.14pm

[shadow wind]

It really didn’t

Yo we’re kinda close now

Wait no

[oak geode]

Made my Aggro Froslass team, thoughts? I followed the advice for Pokémon but didn't know which moves or EVs to give so those might be wrong

https://pokepast.es/606eda86739cf4d5

[shadow wind]

That means it’s noon for you right?

[real prairie]

That's what 12.14pm means lol

[shadow wind]

I always forget if the 12 changes the am or pm or if it’s the 1 that does

Aw man, we are not close then

[real prairie]

It is indeed lunch time

I have a cup of tea

[shadow wind]

Yeah it’s 9 pm here

Thought moving halfway across the world would make me closer to someone

But apparently I’m just further away from everyone now

Time wise anyway

[real prairie]

Where tf are you?!

[shadow wind]

Many such cases 😔

[real prairie]

Thought you were USA

[shadow wind]

Australia 🇦🇺🦘🐨

I was in Canada but I moved like a week ago

[real prairie]

Ah you legend

love AUS

[shadow wind]

It’s been so fire so far

[real prairie]

where abouts? I love the gold coast

[shadow wind]

Near Adelaide

[real prairie]

isn't that west coast?

[shadow wind]

Technically?

It’s still in the right side but like middle

And it technically has a west coast?

[real prairie]

thought the middle was uninhabitable and it was just west coast or east coast lol

[shadow wind]

Not a pro yet but I’ll explain it best I can, lots of the middle is outback but around the coasts it’s pretty busy

[real prairie]

ah know adelaide is east coast but west facing, got it

[shadow wind]

Yeah it’s in the crevice

So I’ll probably end up going to the gold coast at some point

Probably near the end of my trip

[real prairie]

take a trip to gold coast when you get the chance

[shadow wind]

Yeah I’m here for a year so I’ll see all the cool stuff

Working but also exploring

[real prairie]

free to use BBQs on the beach, really can't go wrong

[shadow wind]

Then I go back to Canada and get a degree 😔

Which will honestly be fine

[real prairie]

little "when i was a kid i was an idiot" thing about me, I always thought Sydney was far north of Australia and Papua new guinea was Tasmania

even after being there and visitng Brisbane and Melbourne

[shadow wind]

Many such cases

I didn’t even know Tasmania was an Australian state

[real prairie]

is it not part of Victoria?

[dry nexus]

I love the misdirection zard x does

[shadow wind]

I thought it was a New Zealand thing

[shadow wind]

Nope I think it’s considered its own state

[real prairie]

Interesting

[shadow wind]

Yeah it was news to me

The animals here are crazy

But also many similarities to Canadian animals

[real prairie]

Lizards are the pigeons of australia

[shadow wind]

Which is cool

Kangaroo are the Deer of Australia

[oak geode]

Is there anyway to get Delphoxite without ZA?

[shadow wind]

Randomly in fields and just chilling most of the time

[real prairie]

very good example, some places they are endangered others they are vermin

[shadow wind]

I don’t believe so?

[oak geode]

That's really disappointing, my Team uses two megas and thats the second one

[real prairie]

My exploding ice buddy team if anyone fancies using it

[cerulean nacelle]

You know... there's a political joke here somewhere... but I ain't gonna touch it lol.

Team looks cool.

[chrome knot]

losing the plot😭

[cerulean nacelle]

I'm gonna give the camerupt + abomasnow team a try. I think that's fun. Though I still don't have my shiny male basculegion yet. So that mon is a no go.

Though part of me also wants to keep trying with the froslass bulky veil team I have.

[real prairie]

ey? lol

[real prairie]

you've just given me a nickname for Glalie i guess

[oak geode]

Replaced Mega Delphox for Milotic since I noticed my Team has a really bad matchup against Incine

Its on Blizzard, Icy Wind, Muddy Water, Recover

Fully Physically Bulky with Competitive

[cerulean nacelle]

is it gonna be ICE? XD

[real prairie]

was thinking Trump lol

[cerulean nacelle]

Also valid ngl

Bomb bomb bomb... bomb bomb ira... i need to stop

[real prairie]

I prefer Recover, Hypnosis, Coil, Muddy water Milotic

[oak geode]

Using her in a Froslass team

[cerulean nacelle]

on my milotic i run scald, icy wind, life dew, protect. Theres been a couple times where ive wanted protect

[real prairie]

so put things to sleep to protect Froslass lol

[oak geode]

Life Dew sounds funny

[cerulean nacelle]

its ability to support mons like kommo-o and kingambit is no joke, life dew is on both my sinistcha and milotic haha.

[real prairie]

Coil Milotic often suffers from "All my friends are dead" syndrome and still closes out games lol

[cerulean nacelle]

milotic*

[oak geode]

I don't like the idea of gambling with a Hypnosis

[real prairie]

you don't gamble, coil boosts accuracy

[oak geode]

That involves me setting up a Coil and then using Hypnosis, which Milotic still being slower tham most of the pokemon

[cerulean nacelle]

yeah in general the idea is that after 1 coil, your odds are much higher. After 2, hypnosis is a guarantee.

[cerulean nacelle]

milotic is also bulkier than virtually everything. You still need to play smart. Can't just coil into everything. But that comes with knowing the meta and making good plays.

[real prairie]

which is the point, they either have to focus Milotic giving your sweepers free hits or they ignore it and it cleans them up later

[oak geode]

Not saying its bad just don't really want to go for Coil on hyper aggro

[real prairie]

valid

[oak geode]

Appreciate seeing my reasoning

[dry nexus]

is it smart to give sableye mega stone so it can burn kingambit?

[real prairie]

that feels like a waste of a mega

[dry nexus]

my only mega on the current team is aerodactyl

[real prairie]

also imagine mega'ing sableye to miss willo 😭

[oak geode]

I was gonna ask what do you mean, but forgot that Prankster doesn't work on Dark Types

[cerulean nacelle]

I think sableye is just bad atm lol.

[real prairie]

sableye is okay, just not as a mega

[dry nexus]

I have hydrapple for that, the bad thing is it also activates defiant 💀

[real prairie]

mega Scovillian is the anti meta atm

[dry nexus]

incin

[real prairie]

meta teams running like 4 or 5 physical sweepers and it threatens them all with burn plus it hits Milotic hard

[oak geode]

I like that due to the small Dex Scovillain gets a chance to perform

[real prairie]

you keep Incin out the battle with your own Milotic or Gambit

[cerulean nacelle]

Main thing for sableye is that prankster means most of your utility actually gets blocked by farigiraf.

You can't will o kingambit.

It's just not in an amazing spot.

[oak geode]

But them excluding my Goat Scolipede is a crime

[real prairie]

think with its ability it could be relevant for a while

rage powder + burn everything is wild

[oak geode]

I hope so

[shadow wind]

Spicy spray is disgustingly good

[dry nexus]

hence me thinking if it's wise to waste a mega slot

[cerulean nacelle]

Anyway this is the shenanigans I'm running on froslass. Might see if anyone knows some fun kommo-o spreads I kinda just cooked this up randomly. But it's worked fairly well.

[oak geode]

Does a Mon like Flutter even have a way to deal with it?

Like one shot it i mean

[shadow wind]

If they gave him literally any defenses it’d be over for big offence

Well like Proto booster specs shadow ball probably does

[cerulean nacelle]

I just think it's a waste of a slot in general atm.

[real prairie]

one thing i will say is im not looking forward to the return of Tera whenever that will be

[shadow wind]

Me neither

[real prairie]

love not having guess work when i hit targets

[shadow wind]

Man I hate Tera

[dry nexus]

fair, I just had this nagging urge to make use of sableye today

[real prairie]

its like i started learning VGC on hard mode and now its on easy mode lol

[shadow wind]

Adds another 50/50 to every single turn

[shadow wind]

Nah cause you also had the cheating button

It taught sloppy positioning and bad boardstates

[cerulean nacelle]

I've used him. Done gravity and quash shenanigans such as hypnosis espathra lmao.

[dry nexus]

I miss rolling the dice with g-max butterfree

[shadow wind]

Because you had 1 get out of jail free card every game

[real prairie]

True, but as someone that played a lot with offensive tera's I barely felt that personally lol

so for me, this is easy mode VGC 🤣

[cerulean nacelle]

Hypnosis espathra is very funny. You can typically put a trickroom setter to sleep and then watch the opponent struggle to utilise anything.

[dry nexus]

it was funny seeing how the enemy gets screwed over with gmax befuddle

[real prairie]

Oh god, we will have Gmax come back ffs

can we just not

[dry nexus]

smeargle will come back soon as well

[shadow wind]

I wish Smeargle had some evolution that got rid of all of his gimmicks so that champions wouldn’t include him

[real prairie]

Can see Smeargle being nerfed somehow

[lost sun]

could only change the ability tho

[real prairie]

Well it used to learn all its moves via sketch, if it doesn't have access to every move on the movepool in champions thats the nerf

[shadow wind]

You can always transfer in a Smeargle with the moves though

[real prairie]

and if those moves aren't in its champions move pool its invalid

[shadow wind]

Don’t they have all the moves coded in?

Else how would we know about the astral barrage nerf

[lost sun]

wouldnt be able to use them tho if they do remove it in champs

[real prairie]

yeah all the moves are coded, but not every mon has access to every move. for example my heracross isn't allowed to know false swipe in champions

[shadow wind]

What does that even mean

[real prairie]

ill see if i can find an example, im sure i still have one i haven't changed

[shadow wind]

They do moveset changes from generation to generation

But Smeargles moves just “fail” if they don’t like him having it

Like dark void

[real prairie]

no, champions invalidates mons with incorrect moves

it simply wont be allowed in a battle

[lost sun]

if u give archaladon body press then transfer it into champs u can't use arch until u remove bpress

[shadow wind]

Hmm

Now I see what you’re saying

Since it doesn’t learn the moves it shouldn’t be allowed

But I’m sure cause Smeargle is a gimmick mon they’ll bend the rules for it

Usually do for gimmick mons

[lost sun]

ye I doubt they would remove anymore moves

[shadow wind]

I mean they change learn sets all the time in different generations

Look at how bipolar they are with Incin and knock off

They don’t care about keeping it consistent

It happens all the time

[lost sun]

it's smeargle tho it's whole gimmick is it can use almost every move

[shadow wind]

Have you been reading a thing I’ve been saying?

[lost sun]

won't be surprised if they removed knockoff from Incin cus of the lack of items

[lost sun]

they only changed smeargle once right

[shadow wind]

Technically twice but once was moody

No longer having the chance for accuracy and evasion stuff

Which was caused because of Smeargle

But as far as moves go yeah dark void is so far the only move to my knowledge that fails no matter the circumstance when Smeargle tries to use it

But what we’re saying is that Smeargle doesn’t “learn” any of these moves

He obtains them through sketch

[lost sun]

hm

[shadow wind]

So we’re not sure how champions will handle it in that regard

I’m sure he’ll be allowed with every move

[lost sun]

maybe they would let u chose the moves like u can with any other Pokémon in champs so people don't need to buy the games to use smeargle

[shadow wind]

Just cause killing a pokemon like that because of his gimmick is not very “Pokemon”

[real prairie]

unless they keep that mechanic, and to get certain moves on smeargle you'd literally have to sketch them in ladder matches