competitive_discussion

[polar canyon]

Absol is an edgy basic pokemon, charizard is an edgy basic pokemon, maybe they like zard y

Use case is outspeeding calyrex shadow

[sudden remnant]

zard isnt edgy zard is just straight up basic

[polar canyon]

They picked that speed stat very deliberately

[sudden remnant]

they did

its also 1 point faster than mega aerodactyl

[bold geode]

We already got our CSR defeater

[polar canyon]

We got multiple

[sudden remnant]

we have a few

[polar canyon]

It's called sucker punch now that tera is gone

[bold geode]

Our CSR counter was introduced in Gen 7

[sudden remnant]

we had another one introduced in gen 2

[polar canyon]

Right that too

[bold geode]

Kang is a bit sad

[polar canyon]

Feels awkward to use with sneasler being high usage

[bold geode]

That and it's just not a show stopper

[sudden remnant]

resists everything sneasler wants to do

[bold geode]

You want a second mega with the guy but like
How many options are there for that

[sudden remnant]

resists poison immune to fighting and only takes nuetral from nonstab dark if its running a dark move

[polar canyon]

I think kang is more of the second mega opposed to your first mega

[bold geode]

Floette + redirection food

[sudden remnant]

everything is floette+redirection food whats your point

[bold geode]

Well that's a feast for it

[polar canyon]

Kang is imo only worth adding to teams as a plan b mega for when the mega you wanna use has a bad matchup vs the opponent

[cerulean nacelle]

Kang do be doing good damage. But yeah I wouldn't make a team centered around her anymore.

[polar canyon]

Best use is scrappy fake out

[polar canyon]

Wait this guy is like slow slow

[sudden remnant]

yes

[polar canyon]

Wonder if it works in trick room

[sudden remnant]

90/105/110 defenses is pretty good unfortunately that doesnt stop it from having 4 weaknesses

[polar canyon]

You don't wanna see a garchomp in front of this guy before trick room is up

[sudden remnant]

exactly

or a froslass

or literally any fairy ever ccreated

[polar canyon]

At least it looks really cute

[cerulean nacelle]

To what? Mega ampharos doesn't have a 4 times weakness does it?

[steady linden]

I think they were referring to Garchomp

[polar canyon]

Fairy ground ice dragon

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah I thought so.

[polar canyon]

All common offensive types

[steady linden]

Or that they were talking about how it has FOUR weaknesses, not a 4x

[sudden remnant]

no but mega floette activates fairy aura boosting the power of any fairy attacks on the field

[cerulean nacelle]

I would say that mega ampharos could work under trick room but so many other pokemon provide more offensive utility.

Pretty sure ampharos doesn't get much coverage and it's dragon stab is limited to dragon pulse.

[polar canyon]

What if mega dragonite was a trick room pokemon that dies to earthquake

[sudden remnant]

yes literally 4 weaknesses and all to types you see in probably every single game

[steady linden]

Also the fact it won't get Draco Meteor is a crime

[sudden remnant]

i dont care about that i wouldnt run it anyways

[steady linden]

Fair enough

[sudden remnant]

id run dpulse so i cant miss

[polar canyon]

Sometimes a 90% chance guaranteed ko is better than a guaranteed 2hko

Pretty often actually

[steady linden]

If it's not 100% accurate......

[sudden remnant]

i run fast mons with chip damage like hisuian zoroark with icy wind i can do that little bit of chippies to make dpulse finish it

and in tr there’s always torkoal

[polar canyon]

I don't think icy wind is enough for your 45 speed mon to outspeed most threats

[sudden remnant]

i mean in a faster team

but like in this case

torkoal exists

i wanna run a mon with dragon tail i know its stupid but i wanna do it

[polar canyon]

I wonder if lilikoal will have prevalence when hisuian lilligant comes back

[cerulean nacelle]

I've been using mega camerupt and while that has a 4 times water weakness it also provides insanely strong sheer force boosted stab moves.

I even slotted flash cannon over eruption which actually does a lot vs fairies.

[sudden remnant]

absolutely

faster sleep powder than clorophyll venusaur

[cerulean nacelle]

I would say mega camerupt has way more potential on TR than ampharos does

[sudden remnant]

i also dont like camerupts mega

this isnt about whats better its about how i can make what i want to use work

[polar canyon]

Bulkyish mon with common weakness is usually weird to use

[sudden remnant]

im sure it will be

[polar canyon]

And like, torkoal is right there

[sudden remnant]

i could run torkoal anyways to counter froslass

and meowscarada might have a place outside tr to deal with chomp

[polar canyon]

Oh it's one of those

[cerulean nacelle]

Mega camerupt is also as slow as tork

[sudden remnant]

“lets all be gen 3 mixed attackers!”

[polar canyon]

What if we have half the mega points to attack kinda deal

[cerulean nacelle]

Even then sheer force carries some heavy weight.

[jade dust]

Mega Victreebel might not be useless after all, if you force a trade with their mega

[sudden remnant]

i cant say its the hoenn special cuz 70/100/105 isnt bad defenses

[polar canyon]

Sounds usable against zard y but that's pretty much all I can think of that's common

[sudden remnant]

why the fuck would i ever use that dogshit mistake of a venus fly trap

[jade dust]

Froslass

And Dragonite

[polar canyon]

I actually considered using mega victreebel if it had leech seed, because it would be a constant annoyance that you don't want in the field, with a way to constantly maintain hp if you try to chip it slowly and that you don't want to ohko

[cerulean nacelle]

Tbh if froslass sees a mega victreebel on your side, they're gonna use aurora veil not attack immediately. Then they can slowly whittle the rest of your team away.

[sudden remnant]

do we have final gambit in champions

[polar canyon]

But for some reason it can't have leech seed

[polar canyon]

Yeah just not on anything it's viable to use it on

[sudden remnant]

sigh

[cerulean nacelle]

Isn't this what people are trying, and I mean trying, to achieve with mega scovillain? The bulky leech seed shenanigans?

[polar canyon]

Yeah pretty much

Leech seed burn can add up over turns

[cerulean nacelle]

Just wait till we have angy monke again dw.

[sudden remnant]

i hate scovillain why is it guaranteed to burn anything

[sudden remnant]

i wouldnt use annihilape anyways

[polar canyon]

To make up for shitty mega stats

[cerulean nacelle]

Ok lol

[sudden remnant]

i didnt give it permission to chip my special attacker

[polar canyon]

Mega scovillain has the stats of the average gen 3 final stage pokemon

Bro is exploud

[cerulean nacelle]

I didn't give mega gengar consent to perish trap my mons.

Here we are lol.

[sudden remnant]

truw

[indigo coral]

Chat, I now have two banger Title options for Champions. Should I go with "Super Rookie" for the mental, or "Lopunny Admirer" for the memes and because I have a Shiny?

[foggy lodge]

Loppuny admirer

[indigo coral]

I'm thinking Super Rookie for the mental, it's a good way to subtly throw people off and indirectly influence decisions

But Lopunny Admirer is so funny

[pearl wind]

i went with Idol, had to buy lots of clothes for that

glimm my beloved 🥰

[red willow]

Swimmer so people think you are packing nothing but goldeen and tentacool

Wait they see your mons

Back to the drawing board lmao

[noble hatch]

use the dragon e4 title but have a fairy only team

[spark siren]

Any changes i should make to my singles team?

[red willow]

I think I should just either accept I am trash at standard rain and go back to blastoise cheese or build a new team lmao

[mighty stump]

I don’t think any good player would like care about the opp’s title though - just pick whatever you enjoy

[bold geode]

Me instantly judging you based off your title

[indigo coral]

Did Encore get mechanically changed to have diminishing returns to prevent infinite Encores? According to a friend, the third use on the same mon only lasted a single turn, and the fourth use failed

[sudden remnant]

chat does anyone know what the fastest icy wind user would be rn

id rather have icy wind than electro web cuz a lotta ground types running around rn

[mighty stump]

Then read ‘Champion’ nerd

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/green-alien-cat-green-alien-cat-meme-cat-rage-meme-angry-alien-cat-gif-16978295465898295971

[mighty stump]

Yea that’s what I thought

Know ur place peasant

[bold geode]

Man this peasant needs to find a team

I tested Rain Perish today Tofu
I'm at a low point

[dull ibex]

monke any pointers from our set yesterday?

[bold geode]

I kinda played like shit so

[dull ibex]

I think I played fine

[mighty stump]

Icy Wind MGar in Rain w Perish bro

[bold geode]

Lol maybe
I got Aero too just for extra Zard Y help so like idk

I got Taunt on it rn

I THOUGHT about Will O Wisp

[mighty stump]

What’s the team

[bold geode]

Just standard Rain Perish

Got your Poli
Got your Gengar
Incin Sini Arch
Only difference maybe is I got Aerodactyl as the last

I just had Taunt to shut off like Rage Powder or TR

[mighty stump]

What like Prot/Sub nonsense

Seems fine to me

[bold geode]

Yeah
Had 2 games before work, went 2-0

Hopefully tonight it continues to do well

Also Mega Gengar got aura

[dull ibex]

do you want a progress report monke?

[bold geode]

Sure

[dull ibex]

1703

[bold geode]

Thank fuck we're climbing

[dull ibex]

yeah a few days ago was fucking brutal

tofu wannna see the team?

[mighty stump]

Uh sure

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/60a0e71013b8bec7

[mighty stump]

Ngl I am questioning that Corvi set

[dull ibex]

what about it ?

[mighty stump]

Like why Corvi

[dull ibex]

its a copy of joeux9's and team

[mighty stump]

Idk it just feels wrong - i guess you set TW and BBird chip but I’m used to Corvi being brought as wincon

But that’s just me

You probably want something a bit more offensive oriented and a bit faster if you’re gonna run that set and not a SpDef set

[foggy lodge]

Joe changed the team btw

[dull ibex]

The evs are just a copy of what monke gave me I can change them

originally was running bp over tw

[bold geode]

Hydreigon?

[dull ibex]

alright what should my corv evs be ?

I just got out of a game

[real prairie]

I have had a nightmare of a day on champions.

Seems people came up with counters to hard TR overnight lol

I've seen 5 different taunt mons today, 4 people hitting trick room the same turn as me and an imprison Farig

[wheat rapids]

yo

this team is FRYING people im kinda hyped lol https://pokepast.es/b3fb7c534162d7b2

just need to chosen one beast ball shiny hunt my gengar and im ready 👀

can prob improve the talonflame set as well idk

the combo/use case for talonflame (as obviously I have two priority tailwind setters on my team) is that he's better than whimsicott when they don't have a fakeout user - i prio tailwind with chomp lead (whims leads with gengar), then next turn I uturn 1 speed point slower than garchomp while he clicks eq; talonflame takes no damage from eq, uturns out into ttar who sets sand for chomp sand veil (ideally before he gets attacked due to the speed prios), which also means I set weather after any hard switches or megas, winning the weather war and smacking with an eq in 1 turn

brave bird is there as an emergency prio move in the off case talonflame gets full hp. if anyone can recommend a better item than sitrus pls lmk 🙏

but yeah min speed talonflame hits 131 speed I think? so garchomp is EV'd to outspeed that by 1, rest into atk and bulk (the bulk is significant as I live a lot of hits at like 17%)

and then if I don't need any tailwind (if they're a slow or trick room team), I just bring aegi for wide guard (tbh ive brought aegi 0 times but he'd help vs floette if needed, id prob put iron head over shadow sneak in that case)

I bring all 3 of gengar, ttar, and chomp in like all games

[mighty stump]

im gonna just run random shit in Casuals to farm the badges

HAHA

[dull ibex]

I lost my first game in a bit

[mighty stump]

I am unironically finding out that Mega Chesnaught can 1v1 Mega Glimmora LOL

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/ef4c4ce26f724ce9 what about this team btw

[torn parrot]

hey guyssss
do we post replica teams in the rental team channel

[pearl wind]

flinch into crit from m-blastoise 😖

[wheat rapids]

Im thinking of replacing aegi with farig, imprison/tr/protect/hyper voice. Seems like a good hard counter to trick room leads, i feel like my team could be bad into floette tho. not sure how gengar deals with it

maybe fake tears sludge wave murders it

32 SpA Mega Gengar Sludge Wave vs. -2 32 HP / 0 SpD Mega Floette: 212-252 (117.1 - 139.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

well that's good

[foggy lodge]

why sludge wave

[wheat rapids]

my team is adapted off a tourney winning team

big dmg spread stab move ooga booga

[dull ibex]

does this calc account for spread?

[wheat rapids]

probably not

good looks ty

wait no it does

nice

what it doesnt account for is follow me

no idea what i do into that

32 SpA Mega Gengar Sludge Wave vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Mega Floette: 108-128 (59.6 - 70.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO this is without the spdef drop assuming the follow me-er eats it

assuming floette calm minds... 32 SpA Mega Gengar Sludge Wave vs. +1 32 HP / 0 SpD Mega Floette: 68-84 (37.5 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

second sludge wave should kill..?

i guess if I double min roll i dont kill

but if theyre not max HP investment, I do regardless. 🤷‍♂️

[spark siren]

I am trying out this mono fire team. Any held item/moveset suggestions?

[wheat rapids]

scarf typhlosion is good, honestly changing volc to have ragepowder is also probably good (you have enough fire type main special attackers haha)

if youre gonna go mono, you already have a bunch of type and coverage overlap. Don't overlap roles as well, make each mon bring something different to the table

[spark siren]

What is a good build for rage powder Volcarona?

[wheat rapids]

prob run mega zard Y as well. you need a ground immunity

[spark siren]

Should I replace Ninetales with charizard?

[wheat rapids]

here are 3 sets used in tournaments. Tailwind might be your best bet since you have no speed control on your team

[spark siren]

should i go max hp and defense?

[wheat rapids]

no, I wouldn't. If you're mono fire, your best bet is going to be to ensure sun remains up - if they beat you in the weather war, you're cooked. Having 2 sun setters gives you the flexibility you'd need to have consistency

[wheat rapids]

not sure, sorry. you'll have to play around with it, i'd assume a tailwinder would want to be fast

also; go focus sash on arcanine, scarf on typhlosion

[torn parrot]

I don’t know whereeee to put teams

[wheat rapids]

those would be my tips, gl!

[torn parrot]

I guess the repository is the only place rn

[spark siren]

if i am using scarf typhlosion, which moves should i replace calm mind and protect with?

[stuck perch]

https://x.com/victory_taste/status/2045322335431893046?s=46&t=KB4CVv355gDMDGNjhuVNuA

Taste of Victory (@victory_taste)

Pokemon Champions is amazing man. There's really people clicking Extreme Speed in front of my Farigaraf three times before they realize something is up and forfeit.

X · Apr 18, 2026, 2:03 AM

They idiots lmaooo

[next stump]

normal or hisui?

[spark siren]

hisuian

[next stump]

eruption/overheat/heat wave/shadow ball

[bold geode]

LMAO

[wheat rapids]

attacks

guys what evs do i do for farig 👀 full defensive?

[pearl wind]

what a silly endgame

[wheat rapids]

sucker on an aegislash is

interesting

but he was prob cooked to decid anyways

[cerulean nacelle]

Zard Y is a must if you're trying to run mono fire. It's just much better than ninetales is.

[torn parrot]

Is there like

A champions hub server

[steady linden]

I would love to find one of those

[torn parrot]

I’m a little disappointed there’s not the usual place to post teams and stuff

[ripe grail]

Guys anyway to change age in champions???

Does contacting support work or am I cooked fr

???

[next stump]

are there limited features if you're too young?

[ripe grail]

Yesss

[next stump]

LOL

what is limited

[ripe grail]

No friends feature
No way to toggle on nicknames too

Also an issue with entering Competitions

[next stump]

that's tough, probably no way to change it

maybe support can help

[ripe grail]

I accidently did enter my age wrong
Instead of 2006 I did 2016 I think 💀💀

[ripe grail]

Champions support?
Or tpc
Or nintendo?

[next stump]

does champions have a support page

[ripe grail]

Yeahhh

Apparently we have to submit sorta ticket

It seems

Does their support even care enough to reply lll

[sudden remnant]

damn

[rare drift]

Ngl after using belibolt I might be a BDR

[sudden remnant]

a what

[dull ibex]

What variant do you guys like the most?

[rare drift]

Belibolt D Rider

[winter fox]

That stupid fucking water snake that I hate

[spark siren]

should i replace ninetales with torkoal?

[obtuse barn]

Tyranitar @ Tyranitarite
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 32 HP / 32 Atk / 2 Def
Brave Nature

• Protect
• Knock Off
• Rock Slide
• Low Kick

Excadrill @ Focus Sash
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Protect
• High Horsepower
• Iron Head
• Rock Slide

Farigiraf @ Mental Herb
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 12 HP / 11 Def / 32 SpA / 11 SpD
Quiet Nature

• Protect
• Trick Room
• Hyper Voice
• Helping Hand

Incineroar @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 20 Def / 14 SpD
Careful Nature

• Fake Out
• Parting Shot
• Protect
• Flare Blitz

Rotom-Wash @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 10 Def / 16 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature

• Hydro Pump
• Volt Switch
• Protect
• Trick

Garchomp @ Bright Powder
Ability: Sand Veil
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Rock Slide
• Earthquake
• Dragon Claw
• Protect

thoughts/changes

[spark siren]

does gale wings give priority to tailwind?

[sudden remnant]

chat what can i run next to manectric to click discharge garchomp, emolga if im daring enough, what else we got

raichu and drill are both nos cuz an eq would just lose me the game probably

[dense latch]

yes

[spark siren]

i am considering adding talonflame to my mono fire team to have priority tailwind set up

[sudden remnant]

bright powder sand veil garchomp 😨

who hurt you

[dense latch]

whats the team

[clever root]

Chomp dont feel right on the team, i think i need smth that can deal spread damage

[smoky quail]

How did you get that share team? I have Pokemon Champions but can't find the team display.

[sudden remnant]

theres always rock slide aerodactyl

[next stump]

training feature, replica teams

[clever root]

I could be cringe and run rock slide sneasler

[sudden remnant]

cant be any worse than this guy a few messages ago with bright powder sand veil garchomp

[clever root]

Lowkey its cringe but it can work

[sudden remnant]

what did aerodactyl do

[clever root]

Wdym

[smoky quail]

Got it! Thank you! I'll share this team and need opinion.

[gentle crag]

burningcharizard has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[sudden remnant]

why not just run rockslide aerodactyl

sneasler doesnt gain anything from rock slide

[clever root]

Its sneasler, mr cringe

[sudden remnant]

you must be thinking of incineroar and kingambit

and maushold

and shifu

i can keep going

[clever root]

You cannot deny that sneasler is not the cringe mon

Bro has the fuck you move, being dire claw

[sudden remnant]

which got nerfed

its now just a normal move with a secondary

[smoky quail]

Here's my Fire-type team at Ultra Tier. Should I change my team as improved Fire-type team? Or building my offensive main Pokemon?

[polar canyon]

Tr mega gardevoir is kinda heat

[sudden remnant]

[spark siren]

Is my mono fire team good?

[next stump]

you want another fire move on your scarf typhlosion in case you lose HP

[spark siren]

Heat wave or flamethrower?

[next stump]

heat wave instead of infernal parade IMO

[spark siren]

Should I change held item on Talonflame?

[next stump]

I think Sharp Beak or White Herb are gonna provide more value

[spark siren]

i hate rain teams

[smoky quail]

Same here. And Rock Slealth is the worst enemy ever.

[spark siren]

how do i deal with rain teams swapping out and in pelipper/politoed?

[next stump]

do you want the real answers

[spark siren]

Yes

[next stump]

don’t run 6 fire types

[spark siren]

I want to try out a mono fire team

[clever root]

Thoughts on running mudsdale instead of chomp as a bulky wall that can slam with body press

[dense latch]

then you're probably gonna have to live with the really bad rain matchup

[spark siren]

I will think about it

[next stump]

Sunny Say on Talonflame could help a little bit

Torkoal and Charizard as 2 sun setters could help

[obtuse barn]

change the nicknames ts cringe asf

[clever root]

Nah, i'm good

[obtuse barn]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cornball-corny

[clever root]

Nice gif fail, but instead of worrying about nicknames of my team, maybe worry that your ow montages dont even break 100 views

[obtuse barn]

bro is DIAMOND in marvel rivals 😭 talk to me when you hit a real rank fn

https://x.com/OnFireKarkinos/status/2041345825373069713?s=20

champ in ow b4 your bitchass starts typing

[clever root]

Who takes rivals seriously anymore twin

[obtuse barn]

good deflect twin

fucking corny ass loser stop typing to me

[clever root]

Glad to know i got you pissy over my nickname scheme, i'll name them more like that 😎😎

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/DinomiteVGC/status/2045434771212230918?s=20

Oliver Gausden (@DinomiteVGC)

I want everyone to know I will be rule sharking anyone without remorse in the next online tours.

If I find your teamsheet shows the ability of your mega and not the base form I am calling a judge and taking a game win.

You're gonna learn the hard way early before it matters

X · Apr 18, 2026, 9:30 AM

Remember to check your teamsheets correctly gang

[dense latch]

weavile and decidueye are the weakest mons in this team imo

i think u can add something that can be a good eq partner to chomp instead

[obtuse barn]

again good deflect fn you know i bitch your ass

[clever root]

"Bitch your ass"

[clever root]

Ye, i do like weavile tho as it gets some surprising kills on meta mons, and decidueye is a crit truck

[vapid drum]

If i have a focus sash, and I get hit, but it doesnt take me down to 1, if I heal that pokemon is it still usable?

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[clever root]

If u heal to full ye

[foggy lodge]

The focus sash is consumed if your health bar goes from 100% -> 0%

[vapid drum]

Beautiful. Thank you all!

[gentle crag]

🔇 Muted karkin05 for 2 hours

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-deglove-degloving-speed-grolemcorp-gif-2628858460915389297

[merry summit]

@obtuse barn 0 reason to drop slurs , or have this attitude

[vapid drum]

No need to be a lame on a kids game bro

[clever root]

HE ISRAEL FLAGGED YOU???

[merry summit]

just ping mods if someone is being insane pls

[clever root]

Aint no way

[merry summit]

😭

[clever root]

Will do thank you mr/mrs discord kitten

[dense latch]

sinistcha could be a nice option

[merry summit]

meow

[dense latch]

it's not completely immune to eq but it tanks it decently well

[clever root]

Oh also sneasel has the funny thing of focus sash pickpocket

Weavile

[dense latch]

idk what you're willing to switch off your team tho

[foggy lodge]

Weavile has a niche

[clever root]

Probably only chomp and decidueye, rest of the team usually pulls their weight

[foggy lodge]

I don't know what its niche is nor what its good into LOL but its not a bad mon

[dense latch]

it actually might be kinda nice to check ground types that bother glimm

[foggy lodge]

Mini chien pao is always cool

[clever root]

I LOVE clicking triple axel and doing half my health cuz i smacked a rough skin chomp

[subtle saffron]

If you all ever run into a player named Cyberia in champions thats me

[clever root]

my ign in champs is rosser

I think the best name ive seen in champs so far was someone just named their Pelipper Pablo

[foggy lodge]

The only deal for Weavile is a lot of the time having to run triple axel but if you feel like you hit enough of your triple axels who cares

[clever root]

Ive oneshot so many mega dnites its funny

[dense latch]

if u wanna switch out deci and sneasler keeps the fighting coverage and adds extra utility w fake out

[bold geode]

@merry summit

[merry summit]

@bold geode

[bold geode]

Wtf did I miss

[merry summit]

miss me?

🥺

[clever root]

Egoistical overwatch player threw a temper tantrum over my stupid nicknames 😭😭

[dense latch]

wait wtf did marvel rivals have to do with anything lmao

[bold geode]

[clever root]

I think my profile has my old rivals stats on it

[merry summit]

whats wrong with rosser

[bold geode]

In a Pokemon server?

[clever root]

yes

[subtle saffron]

I should show my avatar its pretty cool

[merry summit]

also most sane ow player

[foggy lodge]

i thought you two were friends and were just fucking around because i didn't think you could know about marvel rivals stats without knowing each other LMAO

[bold geode]

Blud that's the wrong place

[dense latch]

dude same

[bold geode]

There's like stat trackers I believe

[merry summit]

he just kinda went insane

[bold geode]

Stretch

[foggy lodge]

im gonna track your wins monke

[merry summit]

plays ow but israel reacts me 😔

[bold geode]

What wins?

[foggy lodge]

they should create a champions website that tracks everyone's matches

im gonna post all your loss streaks here

[bold geode]

Plz no

[bold geode]

Do it

[clever root]

Oh i have no clue who he is, just someone who takes games far too seriously to the point where he sees "GEM ALERT!!!" The glimmora and he throws a fit

[bold geode]

I'll post my own loss streaks

[foggy lodge]

actually unite had a tracker for players accounts

That shit was so toxic LMAO

[bold geode]

I mean you can see people's profiles on Champs but it don't show like WL records or streaks

[subtle saffron]

Im sure you can see why i called her Cyberia

[clever root]

I aint seen anyone even attempt to use hydrapple

[foggy lodge]

kind of a nothing burger rn

[subtle saffron]

My current battle has one in their roster

[foggy lodge]

It was really good in singles when i used it in SV tho

[subtle saffron]

[foggy lodge]

but like it has the stats in theory ig

[subtle saffron]

Im sure they just put that shiny hydrapple in to flex it

Shiny froslass 😭

[foggy lodge]

Shiny Hydrapple is one of the best shinies in gen 9

[subtle saffron]

That shiny mega froslass aint that good- .its over man.

[clever root]

Thoughts on running dragon cheer pult next to a hydreigon that spams draco?? 😭

[foggy lodge]

i hate that both glalie and froslass shinies are so bad

[foggy lodge]

Focus energy hydreigon has been a thing

Idt you need all the set up imo cuz it also requires a move slot on your partner and a whole set up with both

[dense latch]

also with floette running around with gleam idk

[foggy lodge]

Yeah double dragon is really weak into a floette meta

[dense latch]

having two mons of the same type with similar weaknesses conditions u a lot

[subtle saffron]

This dude is spamming recover on an appletun

[foggy lodge]

I remember when Garchomp actually survived regulations in SV with Flutter around

Garchomp is so goated

[subtle saffron]

Idk if i should forfeit, this guy keeps recovering back to 100%

[foggy lodge]

Stall the PPs

[subtle saffron]

I lost anyways

[bold geode]

@foggy lodge I'm off work, I'm now listening to the Champions arena music to greet the demons

[clever root]

True imma explode

[subtle saffron]

I havent seen floette

[subtle saffron]

You can get shinies through recruit???

[scarlet oar]

Gib build advice pls, running a perish trap core but very susceptible to earthquake

[vapid drum]

How often does sneasler get to eat its sitrus berry?

You can start with swapping Toed for pelipper since you're using Gengar as your singer

[molten oasis]

I wish he was usable man

He’s so cool, but that typing is so shit

[subtle saffron]

Im sure he has a good build

[vapid drum]

He could be niche in singles

[vapid drum]

4x weak to ice is just ouch

[subtle saffron]

Most of my mons are 😭

[vapid drum]

Lets see the spread

[subtle saffron]

And i have an ice move on that same mod

I can get a pic in a few

[molten oasis]

Hmmmm

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmmmmmm-hmmmmmm-hmmmm-hm-hmm-gif-2339932555530048784

[vapid drum]

Hydrapple @ leftovers/focus sash
Bold/Relaxed/Sassy

Fickle beam
Syrup bomb/giga drain/leaf storm
Protect
Recover

4hp/20def/17spatk/21spdef

It only really works in trick toom

[molten oasis]

Nah nah

That’s not the way, slow yawn support

[vapid drum]

Yeah, that works

[chrome knot]

its biggest opp is an unnerve mon

[vapid drum]

Bros defenses are paper

[molten oasis]

That’s why you don’t run sitrus berry

[dense latch]

also there's so much to work on with that kingambit set

perish wont work well with only three protects

[vapid drum]

You can only have two mons out at a time! Duh!

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/e97ac67f1ce79c33

copying this

[lost sun]

I see u went for the meganiumxsneasler moveset

[dull ibex]

meganiumxsneasler?

[cursive sonnet]

Anyone have any recommendations on who I can swap Froslass out with? I bring all other Pokémon pretty consistently except for them

[noble hatch]

id say sinistcha

hospitality would be quite nice for your team considering you are running 2 bulky megas

[cursive sonnet]

Low ranking Pokemon Champions, please never change

[unkempt flax]

Actually tilting bruh the rng gods hate me

[vocal plume]

You getting crited?

[unkempt flax]

The past day I’ve been right outside of champion tier, literally a singular point I believe, and I’ll get flinched like 2 times, get Crit a bunch, miss 90% accurate moves. Literally will stomp the game before my rank up game, and then it’s just horrible RNG

[clever root]

Wo chien's curse

[unkempt flax]

my last game, granted these moves aren’t accurate, and I am trying a new duo to go with my core of my existing 4, anyways, I miss leafstorm and will-o-wisp turn 1, then miss sleep powder turn 2, get frozen and Crit turn 3, stay frozen turn 4. Get Crit again turn 5, then miss last respects twice through turns 6 and 7, then get Crit turn 8 and lose. And nearly EVERY game this happens, I position myself to still comeback, and I can’t

The last respects was a bright powder user

[clever root]

I still think removing competitive staples like AV and lorb but then keeping quick claw and bright powder is an insane move from ILCA

[unkempt flax]

Earlier today, it was someone who got 2 double protects on both pokemon in a row, and I am not joking, 4 quick claw activations on Arch

[unkempt flax]

And before this match, Charizard Crit all 4 of my Pokemon, helping hand boosted heatwave, within 3 turns

And the even better part is I’ve made a sneasler spread that is kinda slower, but more bulkier for the dual wing beat aero in the meta rn, highest roll is he’ll live at 1%, yet to see it in action because everytime I’ve versed one, laughing knowing I’d live it, I’ve been Crit by dual wing beat. That’s happened 3 times since far..

I am a pinch from champion tier, and I can’t even get into it because of this. This is genuinely the first time I’ve ever struggled in VGC to get any good placement on ladder. Usually, and I’d argue effortlessly, I can get top 50 nearly every ranked season in past meta games. I can’t even break top 2000

[clever root]

I might drop chomp for mamoswine again, then swap weavile for a better intimidate or fakeout mon, and also swap out decidueye for gambit

Tbf might have to go with a full team overhall, keeping only bascu and glimm as they are the only two i have omega attachment to

[clever root]

Currently stuck in a cycle of win loss win loss

[chrome knot]

not sure i see the vision on weavile decidueye

[cerulean nacelle]

No rock slide on chomp is interesting considering you have talonflame for tailwind support.

I'd also use quick guard or upper hand on talonflame over flare blitz.

[scarlet oar]

As someone who always saw Sneasler as the better mon, I'm loving the new influx of memes lately.

[cerulean nacelle]

Cursed as all hell lmao

Sneasler definitely is loving the lack of covert cloak.

[scarlet oar]

I got more, Sifyro on Twitter btw

[cerulean nacelle]

Lmaoooo

I do despise perish song so this does make me laugh lol.

[scarlet oar]

As a perish trap user, I'm glad to have given you at least some happiness.

[cerulean nacelle]

Perish trap is a pretty unique strategy. It's just mega gengar that's bloody ridiculous.

Especially because you don't always know if it's going to perish trap.

I also just don't like it because I'm a mega froslass enjoyer and mega gengar can OHKO froslass with shadow ball.

[scarlet oar]

That's why I run a hybrid moveset. Mega Gengar is a great special attacker on it's own.

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah he's got a lot of utility and singlehandedly made me start running kingambit on my team lmao

Though kingambits moveset feels so awkward atm.

I want iron head for mega floette but I also want kowtow to not be reliant on sucker punch to try and kill a perish trap gengar

[scarlet oar]

This. People say to run choice scarf on Kingambit too, which yeah it's good but locking it into one move isn't great unless you run double pivot with something like Incineroar + Palafin.

I cant tell you how many games Kingambit would've clutched for me if it wasn't locked to one move.

[cerulean nacelle]

It's just a case of "what do you want to lose to". No low kick means you can't do lots of damage to incin or opposing kingambits.

No iron head means you don't soft check mega floette.

No kowtow means perish trap gengar is very free into you.

[violet parcel]

damn almost lost cause i forgot that mega delphox has levitate

[spark siren]

Is this a good doubles moveset for Volcarona: Protect, Rage Powder, Struggle Bug, Heat Wave (assuming the opponent doesn't bring rocks or any rock threats are removed first)

[chrome knot]

please never put scarf on gambit

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah that'd be stupid.

puts scarf on torkoal

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah this is probably optimal.

[spark siren]

for held item, maybe a berry that reduces rock damage?

[cerulean nacelle]

Either that or sitrus would be my guess?

I haven't really ran into volc because rock slides are everywhere. Not to mention that starro the conqueror is becoming a nuisance too.

[chrome knot]

not rly a case of “what to lose to” build ur gambit for a specific purpose and have mons as options for the other stuff you’re missing out on

i like kowtow iron head sucker i can just play chomp & floette into gambit or chomp aero basc into incin

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah I'm thinking of dropping low kick for kowtow

[chrome knot]

kowtow means u can swing at mons weak to dark without seeing sucker fail

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah that's my main thing

Also means kingmabit can kick the shit out of sinsitcha

I have had people lose to me because even though I had 2 ghost types, I had froslass + sinistcha and just used aurora veil + life dew to make it so I was never in KO range.

There's also now the sub + protect mega froslass that doesn't really lose to kingambit without kowtow.

[near crag]

Is it even possible for me to get like 300 championship points just from locals and gcs until worlds? I really don't have a clue on how getting points for that works

[waxen dock]

I got 300 points from the gcs

Only gcs

[spark siren]

Would this doubles team work?

[next stump]

Not really this season because locals only last another month or so

they pause over summer

You could but it would require a lot of driving/trains/etc. to many different stores

[near crag]

Found 15 venues in an 100 mile radius, you think that's enough? If I get ~270 points I'm going to worlds

[next stump]

Are they hosting locals for VGC? Or are they just listed as venues

[near crag]

Hosting events

[next stump]

If there are 15 locals coming up, then yeah 270 points definitely possible if you’re good enough

What age division are you

[near crag]

Seniors

Does it divide by age?

[next stump]

The points do

If you are the only senior, which is usually the case, you’re automatically first

[near crag]

You're sure about that? That'd be HUGE

[near crag]

Regardless tho, appreciate you a lot for that info

[next stump]

I am 100% sure that the points are divided by age

and most local attendees are masters players

my locals usually get one senior and he maxes his local points like 2 months into the season

How do you know 270 points allows you to qualify?

[waxen dock]

is it some latam or oce seniors?

[near crag]

I need to get to top 15 on the leaderboard, and top 15-12 are all with 260 points. Given that they have flat numbers, I'd assume they've only competed in a couple events, and aren't really grinding comp, plus in the seniors division there are a lot of people with settings that make them not eligible to go to worlds, and also there is only two more regionals in the region, so I felt like that would be a solid guess on what would let me attend

[near crag]

Latam

[waxen dock]

so cant you go to one of the regionals?

i think there is still campinas regional

[near crag]

yeah, but i wont be able to attend

[waxen dock]

didnt you have like 7 regionals already?

there is also lima special

[near crag]

My father forgot to sign up in time, and we were planning on going to campinas and lima, so unless some miracle happens, we will cancel the flights and I'm gonna try my luck in the locals and gc

[near crag]

Since we were so set on these two, and the regulations helped me, we didn't even consider attending those

[waxen dock]

the gc isntr giving points

[near crag]

No? I really just needed top 1000

[waxen dock]

you had 5 gc's

why didnt you participate them

[near crag]

Tunnel vision and bad planning

[waxen dock]

What?

[near crag]

I just focused too much on the ones I believed I was going to, and didn't plan it out to be able to go there, so I didn't even consider playing those, plus I only ever practiced for ots

[jade dust]

Is Gyarados mega stone not in champions?

[next stump]

It is, I’ve plays against a couple

played*

[jade dust]

I found it

My bad lol

[spark siren]

I am trying out this doubles team. Any suggestions for improvement?

[next stump]

Looks alright, have you tried playing it? Gliscor is probably the weak link but if you’re a fan you can make it work

[spark siren]

not yet. but for gliscor, i need a ground type to counter rock types. not sure if there is a better option

[lost sun]

garchomp could be nice

[zinc edge]

I have a question

[next stump]

What’s up

[zinc edge]

How would you round out this team

It's currently 3-0 with this core but I need a physical attacker and something that beats rain teams

Mega slot wide open btw

[left bobcat]

Snorlax?

[zinc edge]

Choice scarf and focus sash wide open as well

He's stalllax

[willow gulch]

Hawlucha if you wanna do a fissure strat

[left bobcat]

NO GUARD

[zinc edge]

It was on the team but Hawlucha never lives long enough to get it done 😂

[willow gulch]

Well, it should most of the time, is it trained up?

[zinc edge]

Yeah the thing is it's a trick room team and I just don't know how to train him for that

Because oranguru torkoal lead cooks

[willow gulch]

Idk, I feel like your mixing two teams together

[zinc edge]

Yeah that's why I removed him 😂

He was just unnecessary for what the team is better at doing

[willow gulch]

Yeah

I'd recommend hard trickroom

[zinc edge]

Plus I feel like the more gimmicky a team is the easier it is to stop if the opponent recognizes what your doing

[willow gulch]

And tbh im not the best at this stuff so I cant help you much

[zinc edge]

Has anyone seen good results out of mega aggron?

[willow gulch]

Very good results

I know it has 1st in a tounrney, not sre which one

[jade dust]

Does the spread move damage reduction apply if it hits into a protect?

[zinc edge]

Yes

[jade dust]

Ah alright

[zinc edge]

If there are 2 enemies on field it applies

[willow gulch]

It still goes through with the attack

[zinc edge]

What about mega golurk

He seems good inside trick room yeah

[willow gulch]

I think most megas are good in certain teams

Golurk included

[jade dust]

In a trick room team yes

[zinc edge]

How's that look ?

[willow gulch]

Better

[zinc edge]

@cerulean nacelle yo

[jade dust]

I made this snow team but I'm not entirely convinced of Gyarados

The MVP has been Mamoswine most games with how bulky it becomes

What other options are for physical megas besides mega Gyarados?

[jaunty cargo]

Does refrigerate boost all ice moves or only normal moves that change

[jade dust]

Only normal moves I’m pretty sure

[craggy dagger]

only normal
just like pixilate i think

[zinc edge]

@jade dust physical attack or physical def

[jade dust]

Physical attacker

[zinc edge]

Try adaptability choice scarf basculegion

@jade dust

[jade dust]

Hmm alright

I need to catch another one

[zinc edge]

With specific stats he out speeds and 1 shots most pokemon in the right situations

[jade dust]

Can it delete Charizard y in sum?

[zinc edge]

Yes

[jade dust]

Because I haven't played against those yet but I think that team can be a problem

[zinc edge]

It does not outspeed the venasuar tho

[jade dust]

I see

I hate the limited items more than anything

No safety googles

[zinc edge]

Ok so if two of your teammates have fainted you can 1 shot venasuar with last respects but it's a roll

You always 1 shot Charizard with wave crash unless your atk stat is dropped

[wanton stirrup]

You guys should run Heatproof + Occa Berry Sinistcha.

It catches every single Charizard Y user by surprise and allows you to get Trick Room up against Sun almost every time.

[zinc edge]

Why when oranguru can get it done guaranteed and have the normal sinistcha set in the back for support

[wanton stirrup]

Because I’m not running Oranguru on my team.

My team is:
Mega Crabominable
Mega Camerupt
Farigiraf
Sinistcha
Kingambit
Tyranitar

[zinc edge]

Honestly I'd swap farig for oranguru instruct is so op

Same typing just better

It also can't get faked out

[chrome knot]

stibky

[bold geode]

Doesn't Heatproof make you immune to Fire moves

[bold geode]

Oh just halves it

[lilac summit]

Hi! I've been using a rain team and managed to hit Ultra Ball Tier 4. But I kept using it, started losing, and now I'm stuck. Any team recommendations to help me climb back up?

[bold geode]

Yeah nah you can just run the Occa and keep Hospitality

[lilac summit]

https://pokepast.es/0644671d05ba5e50

[wanton stirrup]

No, it reduces damage.

[dull ibex]

Meganium is a little tricky to pilot

[bold geode]

Yeah just run the Occa by itself, no need to double up like that

[wanton stirrup]

I prefer being able to block Fake Out with Armor Tail.

[lilac summit]

archaludon has the berry that absorves fight moves

[leaden fox]

Can be yeah, probably best for a Rain Team because of it's Mega abiility

[wanton stirrup]

Too much Sneasler and Incineroar running around.

[waxen dock]

if it was that way sisintcha would have been broken

[dull ibex]

im running it on a sand team

[wanton stirrup]

Plus I use Twin Beam on Farigiraf specifically to catch Focus Sash Sneasler and kill it.

[spark siren]

I am struggling against prankster klefki running rain dance and trick room, even though I have snow warning mega froslass. Any tips on how to counter? Here’s my team:

Volcarona (bulky rage powder support)
Whimsicott
Mega Froslass
Milotic
Garchomp
Kingambit

[leaden fox]

That sorta works too yeah; but yeah, someone saying Sneasler on the rampage doesn't help too much 😅

[bold geode]

Probably wanna update the paste since there's things there that aren't in the game (AV Body Press Archaludon and Choice Band on the Basculegion)
Honestly the mons look fine

[leaden fox]

I'll be glad once we have more certain items in the game

as with more certain mons

[lilac summit]

instead of body press has prote

but the thing is i am stuck in ultraball 3

and I want to try new teams

[bold geode]

Honestly I would look up Wolfe or Cybertron on YouTube real talk

They've been showing a lot of teams recently

[leaden fox]

At least Archuladon has Aura Sphere still

[bold geode]

And Cybertron gives good detailed explanations of the teams he showcases

[craggy dagger]

nuh uh

[dull ibex]

maybe I can combine rin sand and joeux9 sand to make my own sand team

because rin sand ain't working for me

[whole ibex]

https://pokepast.es/de0a38dc3b8c6746

A few adjustments have been made and I been doing pretty decent with this team. The main problems I face are Incin + Farig leads and WG Peliper. I have been thinking about forgoing dual weather and dropping Ttar over other guys but it’s been useful a few times against opposing weather and it like my main Pokemon to one shot TR setters before they can set it up.

[winter fox]

The people that switch in and out to reset Fake Out deserve a special seat in the nail chair

[whole ibex]

My best bet into Farig+Incin is close combat the Incin and someone else attacks Farig or lead Zard Venu and which ever one doesn’t get faked out, has to deal with Farig being put to sleep or blowing up to a overheat but of which aren’t 100% accurate and with the former, it just leave Farig to set up trick room because I’m forced to protect or is getting faked out

[winter fox]

Why do you have two weather setters but no one with Weather Ball?

[whole ibex]

I perfer Overheat for it being a nuke option.

[winter fox]

You need Weather Ball on Zard or Venu if you have T-Tar otherwise there is no point in having it on the team

[stuck perch]

https://x.com/yanotwins/status/2045835123413950500?s=46&t=KB4CVv355gDMDGNjhuVNuA

ケースィ。 (@yanotwins)

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wtf this is peak Pokemon VGC

[delicate shadow]

How could mega lopunny hit close combat on ceruledge?

[chrome knot]

scrappy

[delicate shadow]

Ah got it

[pearl wind]

i think i wanna try mega clefable

[subtle saffron]

Wait isnt someone here named Miggz in pokemon chanpions

[cerulean nacelle]

sorry didnt see this. sup?

[zinc edge]

I was just gonna ask for advice on my team earlier

@cerulean nacelle

[bold geode]

[subtle saffron]

Can i show my team without getting clowned on

Mainly use Dragonite, Carte and Shinobi

[chrome knot]

i lost to mega blastoise at local do i kms

[bold geode]

Mega Blastoise is a bitch

I keep getting beat by it too

[rustic mountain]

it is a strong one been seein it pop up more now

[bold geode]

I just hate that it has Dark Pulse

I got Aegislash with WG but then it Pulses my ass 💀

Also I like Aegislash

[winter fox]

I hate Fake Out Blastoise

Why do you have that you don't need that

[whole ibex]

Overheat can just be used when Ttar is the field worse case scenario

I had Sand but it wasn’t really that good

But my main problem is TrickRoom right now

[spark siren]

A foolish miscalculation

[cerulean nacelle]

It's been a minute so idk your team. Repost and I can give some advice most likely.

Also sorry I had a mass power outage and had no WiFi for like 2 hours.

[subtle saffron]

Can i have some

[cerulean nacelle]

Yeah. What on?

If you're on about that team you've posted already I'd also like to know the EVs and moves and such.

[subtle saffron]

I can get those hold on

[cerulean nacelle]

👌

[chrome knot]

sneasler blastoise lead is impossible u can’t stop shell smash

[fossil bridge]

Hello, could anyone give me advice on how can I complete this team for doubles? I have been trying some Pokemon, but I don't think they were the correct ones.

[cerulean nacelle]

Some of these EV spreads are giving me an aneurysm. Why are they so spread out?

Also... do not run giga drain on meowscarada, you're doing 0% trust.

[cerulean nacelle]

Sneasler looks good here. I'd also maybe say garchomp.

[cerulean nacelle]

Also yeah sorry i don't mean to clown but... shadow sneak is irrelevant. Not enough damage and water shuriken (which is also bad) is a priority move anyway.

Froslass doesn't wanna run hex. Just run shadow ball. And snowscape isn't a good move. If you're running froslass you're running the mega. Base froslass is awful.

[rustic mountain]

aegislash is cool

[forest arrow]

Standard Zard Y won the VR today

[cerulean nacelle]

Sounds right haha

[rustic mountain]

idk ur team but yea i could see it bein tough

[rustic mountain]

wats standard zard y

[forest arrow]

Zard, Whims, Venu, Sneasler Chomp, last can be gambit Milo rotom

[cerulean nacelle]

Heat wave, solar beam, tailwind, protect.

With things like venu, whims, sneasler chomp

[forest arrow]

It was Coil Hynosis Milo tho

[rustic mountain]

yea milotic has seen a big increase

i think lack of good grass/electric means bulky water type that can offer flex support

[cerulean nacelle]

Milotic is good. I use it on bulky mega froslass veil.

It just doesn't die.

[forest arrow]

Yeah we really didn’t get much

Rillaboom I miss you

[rustic mountain]

🥹

[cerulean nacelle]

I miss AV

I would be all over AV gambit.

[rustic mountain]

i switched to delphox recently

[forest arrow]

I’m on Phox rn too

[rustic mountain]

its been nice

[forest arrow]

You playing sub?

[cerulean nacelle]

Delphox is a very strong mon.

[rustic mountain]

yep

[forest arrow]

Same, it feels really good rn

[rustic mountain]

was either that or encore, i like sub so far tho

[chrome knot]

floette balance

[forest arrow]

I was chople gambit, but I have Clefable, set up black glasses just feels to good rn

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[chrome knot]

i have literally nothing for it

[rustic mountain]

oof yea that seems like a bad mu

[chrome knot]

it was the spout dark pulse set so even basc was rough

[rustic mountain]

im still considering chople but im also like, maybe dont put myself in a position where im takin a cc or w/e to the face

[cerulean nacelle]

That's tough.

[rustic mountain]

i do think resist berries are good atm but idk sometimes it feels like bait

[forest arrow]

I had Chople and ended up never putting myself in said position, that’s why I like glasses better tbh

Also Sash Basc is crazy

[cerulean nacelle]

Chople is good. I'm currently shuca on incin and chople on kingambit.

Though I have dropped low kick on gambit so I'm running kowtow, iron head, sucker punch + protect.

[rustic mountain]

yea even basc alone cant carry the mu, breaking the sneasler before it threatens floette while minimizing the damage stoise can do is a pretty steep hill to climb w/ that core

[rustic mountain]

really? haha

[forest arrow]

Yeah the end game clean up is really nice

Especially into opposing scarf

[rustic mountain]

yea its def still something im thinkin on but the damage boost is also super nice in certain spots wen i need it

[cerulean nacelle]

This might sound stupid but could talonflame maybe be better than aero? You can run upper hand or quick guard to block against the fake out?

[forest arrow]

Well if you ever do use Chople

[subtle saffron]

What should i do yhen?

[forest arrow]

32/9 lives the roll from adamnt cc sneasler iirc

[rustic mountain]

i guess lol it just feels weird having liquidation over wave crash

[cerulean nacelle]

I'd say focus on 1 of the mons on that team and build around it. These mons can all work but they don't have any synergy together.

[rustic mountain]

also if ur sash is broken at any point ur just almost dead weight in a basc vs basc endgame

[rustic mountain]

wait its still a roll even w/ chople?

[forest arrow]

Yeah that is a flaw, just gotta position is correctly

[forest arrow]

Yeah lmao

[rustic mountain]

dude

[forest arrow]

It’s bait

[rustic mountain]

i am not running chople

[cerulean nacelle]

Like @subtle saffron I picked froslass + kommo-o because they have good initial synergy (kommo-o can set up clangorous soul under aurora veil from froslass) and then went to work.

Sinistcha keeps em healthy, incin is incin, milotic + kingambit help cover other weaknesses and punish people bringing opposing incineroars etc.

That's a good way to team build. Focus on something you wanna do, build to then compensate for weaknesses.

The pokemon you can definitely build around easiest is either mega dnite with rain, mega garde with either a bulky trick room shenanigans or tailwind speed control pixilate hyper voices or mega froslass.

I'd pick one of these.

[chrome knot]

its impossible

[chrome knot]

no talon is so bad on this team

[cerulean nacelle]

You said that MU is impossible. I'm tryna give you an option that could be better since talonflame can stop the fake out and either allow your mon to hit blastoise while preserving full health for gale wings tailwind.

[chrome knot]

the solution is rebuild the core

talon makes sun impossible & talon fixes nothing in this mu

[cerulean nacelle]

Ok then fix your core

[bold geode]

I like how complex it can play due to the stance change

Actually deadass
So idk if this is a norm or not cuz I don't see other Aegislash spreads and I'm not 100% knowledgeable on stuff rn but
I run Brave Aegi

[dense latch]

aegi is rly fun

i think my spread is like 2 speed for no real reason and it's been fine

i forget to read sometimes and use poltergeist into a mon that already consumed its item

[stuck perch]

https://x.com/iloiter/status/2045634780927037945?s=46&t=KB4CVv355gDMDGNjhuVNuA

StAri ✨ ◀︎ ̥𐄀৩̫𐄀 ̥▶︎ (@iLoiter)

i’m so over yall

X · Apr 18, 2026, 10:45 PM

😭😭💀

[spark siren]

Critique my doubles team

[foggy lodge]

We can't see the items

[spark siren]

Volcarona (Charti Berry), Froslass (Froslassite), Kingambit (Shuca Berry), Whimsicott (Focus Sash), Garchomp (Soft Sand), Milotic (Sitrus Berry)

[foggy lodge]

They are fine ig

Idk about charti berry volcarona tho

Does it live a rock slide from tytar for example

[spark siren]

i tested it on an excadrill. volcarona should live a rock slide at half health (without aurora veil activated)

[foggy lodge]

I think you should aim to live Tytar's rock slide

Cuz its like the big rock coverage in the format rn

[spark siren]

if it doesnt live a rock slide, which held item should i give to volcarona instead?

[foggy lodge]

I prefer sitrus on Volcarona

And lefties on Milotic

[dense latch]

i would consider chople berry on gambit over shuca if u want type reducing berry

gambit tanks eqs from chomp decently enough already

[spark siren]

at max HP?

[dense latch]

32+ Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Kingambit: 122-144 (58.9 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[foggy lodge]

I miss AV on gambit

[dense latch]

shuca doesnt even guarantee a 3hko from eq

the second eq still has a chance to KO if they roll high enough

or if they're soft sand

[foggy lodge]

i cant wait to get new items ngl the builder is starting to feel really small😭

[dense latch]

i miss lorb

[foggy lodge]

I miss goggles too

[spark siren]

@dense latch should i replace recover with life dew (as well as icy wind over ice beam) on Milotic?

[foggy lodge]

I don't want to depend on lum berry to not get slept by venusaur

[dense latch]

cloak would be really nice to have rn ngl

[molten oasis]

I miss av

[whole ibex]

Same

how you been btw Drago?

[foggy lodge]

I also want rocky

And incin lost u turn😭

I like u turn rocky incin to break all the sashs and multiscales

[whole ibex]

Is there any way I can improve into the Incin Farig lead with this team?

[molten oasis]

Eepy

[left bobcat]

KABONG 🎸

[rustic mountain]

i think ppl do a bit linear play of atk-protect repeat but otherwise yea its awesome

very unique design

[jade dust]

Hey did you see the shadow rider nerf?

Astral barrage went from 120 BP to 110 BP

[rustic mountain]

drago, im using delphox

[jade dust]

It's from the dataminers but its reliable

[bold geode]

Yeah honestly a lot of the time you can just do that or want to do that but sometimes you just are under no pressure to go back to shield lol

Really the only thing is just like
Wanting to make sure you're taking as much notable damage in the shield form

[jade dust]

Is oblivious or thick fat better for swine?

[rustic mountain]

oblivious

[rustic mountain]

i just think it can be exploitable

[jade dust]

Alright

[rustic mountain]

i was usin sash mamo w/ oblivious on my climb to mball

[jade dust]

If Clear Amulet is added back then thick fat right?

[rustic mountain]

matches up p well w/ a lot of mons u can trade p decent

its defensive typing sucks, thick fat isnt that great onnit

its a sash mon imo

[jade dust]

Im using quick claw lol

[rustic mountain]

[jade dust]

I have a very bulky swine

[bold geode]

Oh for sure

But also like if you play it right usually you can get a KO and that's all you need Aegi for

[molten oasis]

Something I like is being used by tree?! Impossible

[molten oasis]

The nerfs all around have been nice yea

Dire claw doesn’t feel as cheesy

[dense latch]

solo or are you giving double mega a chance?

[dense latch]

i've yet to get a dire claw proc i think

at the very least not a sleep proc

[molten oasis]

See

I’m not sure what mega to do with phox, I’ve been trying Ttar but idk if ttar’s it

[jade dust]

I stil hate sneasler tho

[dense latch]

floette is what ive seen

[jade dust]

But the nerfs are good yes

[dense latch]

and what i've been trying

they cover each other pretty well

[molten oasis]

Ewww

[jade dust]

Hey at least she's not as bad as Xerneas

[molten oasis]

Eeeehhh

[jade dust]

She's definitely powerful

[molten oasis]

It’s not worse than flutter

[jade dust]

But I rather deal with Floette than Xerneas

[molten oasis]

It’s annoying but it’s not outspeeding my shit in tw

[jade dust]

She's Garchomp's speed

So relatively fast

But more on the middling speed

[dense latch]

https://victoryroad.pro/vr-champions-arena/ if anyone's interested

[jade dust]

Whats that

[dense latch]

all the day 2 teams from the vr tour

[molten oasis]

Holy fuck

I might need to try milotic

Actually sounds quite nice next to phox

[dense latch]

zard x kinda cooked

there was a zard x mega scizor team i thought was cool

i wanna try mega scizor so bad i love that mega to death

[molten oasis]

Interesting

[winter fox]

So close to Masterball but at what cost

https://tenor.com/view/attack-on-titan-season3-eren-mikasa-armin-gif-20214159

[molten oasis]

I’ve discovered the norm for Delphox an will now avoid it

[dense lion]

Made it to master ball rank with dragapult and umbreon carrying my team lol

[spark siren]

Clutch freeze

[winter fox]

I don't think I'm strong enough to do ranked doubles for another season

[dense lion]

Both frosslass and whims are faster than dragonite, couldn’t you double into it without relying on freeze

[spark siren]

i had to set up tailwind

[dense lion]

Nah whims has prankster, you could set it up turn 2

[spark siren]

ah ok. but I still won the match regardless

[dense lion]

Fair, just thinking out loud if I was in that situation, for my own knowledge

Imo double into dnite, then stagger tailwind on turn 2 gives an “extra” turn of speed control since pelipper would focus on setting up tailwind on turn 1

Unless they somehow decide to do weather ball, though that would be rare

[subtle saffron]

I hate azumarill

[spark siren]

huge power + belly drum and aqua jet are recipes for disaster

[subtle saffron]

It didnt use either

Its the defense thats my problem

[rustic mountain]

believe it (atleast for now)

[molten oasis]

lol

[rustic mountain]

solo atm but im heavily considering double, it feels so bad into rain

double mega atm actually seems fine, especially w/ the limited item pool

[subtle saffron]

Why do people even use whimsicott

[rustic mountain]

i think initially i just didnt understand it cuz it didnt seem to b the case in past mega formats

[rustic mountain]

prankster tw

[subtle saffron]

Everytime i encounter it i just oneshot it

[rustic mountain]

jus cuz ppl dont use the tool correctly doesnt mean it doesnt have something it does well

[next stump]

does anyone else feel like menuing in champions is noticeably slower than in SV

i’ve almost timed out so many times

[rustic mountain]

its much slower

i try and make sure i dont take as long cuz ive timed out bc of it

usually 10-15 seconds if u hav the first move ready to b locked u should b good but they need to fix that asap

[dense latch]

i watched mdb time out on stream despite having like 15 seconds left to pick moves during the champions arena vr tour

i havent gotten the chance to play much champs but from what i've seen it's unnecessarily slow

[next stump]

sometimes in team preview you'll time out with 5-10 seconds on the clock

the game is super fun, hopefully a switch 2 update (or just a general future update) smoothes out those kinda things

because it is unresponsive and clunky

[rustic mountain]

the pokemon screen in battle is abysmal

like if u go to mons u have and try and swap, its too fast haha

[foggy lodge]

i think there's also some delay on the menu

[dense latch]

might've just witnessed the greatest turn of all time

[dense lion]

There’s so many times I almost target myself because the cursor has input lag

[bold geode]

It is

It is noticeably slower

[bold geode]

I beg to differ

[indigo coral]

I haven't noticed much lag myself actually. Out of curiosity, are you on Switch 1 or Switch 2, and do you play Docked or Handheld?

[next stump]

Switch 2, both versions

I wouldn’t call it lag, just slow

Compared to SV

Also https://x.com/pokemon_champs/status/2046046193302585516?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

wonder what this is

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[indigo coral]

I remember reading there was a bug specifically related to the Switch 2 version running on I wanna say a slower framerate unless you did something with docking and undocking it? That's probably the cause, I'm on Switch 1 and have not had any issues with timing out or menus feeling slow. Lemme see if I can find the post reporting the Switch 2 bug

[dense lion]

I think it was reported by Mr Serebii himself

[indigo coral]

Yeeee, was just trying to find the tweet but Google isn't cooperating and I don't have a twitter account

[dry nexus]

both switches run on handheld graphics unless you manually undock and dock it

[indigo coral]

Also I think that's to do with the "known issues" post that's been in the News tab in game for a while now. Probably fixing some of those issues they mentioned fixing later if I had to guess

[indigo coral]

Oh was it both? I only remember seeing comments about the Switch 2 version, and I play on Switch 1 entirely docked without that issue

[dry nexus]

at first I also thought that switch 1 graphics is just purposefully bad, then I tried the "fix"

[indigo coral]

Yeah it's Switch 2 specific, couldn't find Joe's tweet itself but found an IGN article about it with the tweet embedded.

https://www.ign.com/articles/pokemon-champions-launch-woes-continue-as-switch-2-players-discover-they-must-manually-dock-and-undock-consoles-for-best-graphics

[grand spire]

can someone look over my team ive been testing this out and the only issue ive found is that it can be hard to set up trick room at times

https://pokepast.es/223ebbf2eb16a819

[dry nexus]

try the fix, my phone camera really cannot do the difference justice

[next stump]

What leads are struggling into? Incin/Farig can set up into almost everything in the meta, especially in lower ratings

[indigo coral]

I don't like Slowking on this team personally. Do you have a Sinistcha you can run as a secondary Trick Room setter instead? Gallade would also be a viable option with additional access to Wide Guard support

[grand spire]

basically like basculegion and froslass or smth

i dont rlly bring incin against rain teams and idk if i should

[grand spire]

sinistcha is weak to rain i removed that

[next stump]

You should still probably be able to get TR up there, they’d need to wave crash + blizzard and even then it’s probably close

Incineroar on those archetypes of teams is typically not meant to stick around for a while, if they lead Peli/Basc and you lead Incin/Farig and you die to wave crash on Incin and set TR, you’re winning

[grand spire]

oh

should i bring incin if they have gambit bc i usually dont

[open socket]

It’s too bad ivs are gone going forward since I recently claimed my red Magearna reward and just saw it has 0 speed. Would have been cool for trick room/showing off

[grand spire]

also i dont know how gallade would fit in this

like remove slowking and put sash on gallade or smth?

also not sure if golurk would be better for this team or even drampa maybe instead of crab

[indigo coral]

You could also run Mental Herb Mimikyu as a backup Trick Room setter, I've seen that a decent amount on the ladder and counterplay is surprisingly limited.

[grand spire]

ok but what would i replace

[indigo coral]

Golurk, Drampa, and Crabominable are all viable in Trick Room. It just depends on how you choose to build around them, the rest of the team for each will look different

[indigo coral]

If I was the team builder, I would replace Slowking personally. I don't personally feel he provides much value to the team that other Trick Room setters like Sinistcha or Mimikyu would not do better

[grand spire]

i had sinistcha intially it just doesnt work

or im just playing bad but i feel like i only hring sinistcha like 20% of my games

and ive been winning more with slowking

[indigo coral]

That's about a normal bring rate for a backup setter yeah, you should be using Farigiraf most of the time anyways

[grand spire]

also glowking just walls floette which i thinks is nice

[indigo coral]

Sinistcha plays differently in my personal experience, are you leading it? And if so, what are you leading it with?

[grand spire]

and sneasler but sinistcha also does that

[grand spire]

yeah i usually lead it with like incin

if i bring it

i just sont like sinistcha bc its weaks to like every weather

and 70% if my games are hust weather teams

and having chilly reception is nice to block rain teams

[indigo coral]

From my experience, Sinistcha is better utilized in the back as a switch in to heal the partner and set up a late game Trick Room in certain matchups, rather than going for an early one. Sinistcha can also be used alongside other partners to Rage Powder and ensure the partners get their attacks off. Sinistcha being lead isn't the way to utilize it most of the time in my experience

[grand spire]

yeah ur probably right

but i just dont bring sinistcha even as a back up cuz i swear every time sinistcha just dies to like 3-4 mons on the other side

frosslass gambit incin

pelliper

[dense lion]

Iirc they’re all like that

But grats on getting it!

[open socket]

Ohh shit nvm then, I’m not special 😂

[dense lion]

But you are, because you filled out the pokedex!

[open socket]

thanks man

[cyan smelt]

i still need to get two more mons so i can get that magearna

which means completing the dex in PLZA ugh

[open socket]

Well it’s just the 1-8 right

When I got it, the message said I completed dex 1-870 or whatever

Unless internally they adjusted it to 1025 and just didn’t change the message it shows you

[cyan smelt]

i'm pretty sure i need simipour and something else

[open socket]

Well if you only need two you can knock those out pretty quick

[cyan smelt]

yeah i need to check home to see what i actually need

[open socket]

My last was naganadel and it was tough finding someone who would touch trade me it

[cyan smelt]

looks like i need simipour, hoopa and poipole

[rustic mountain]

bruh ppl cracking 2400 already in champions

eh i guess its been about 2 weeks now that i think about it

[violet parcel]

do i really need to build a team with like the core types?

like i should build one with flying, rock, fighting etc etc if you get what i mean

[foggy lodge]

its not mandatory but they are really good most of the time

but you can make a functional team without them

if it works it works

[shadow wind]

So over for my champion rank climb

I think I’m at like 1600 💀

[rustic mountain]

im talkin in game, not sd

oh champion rank nvm

[cyan smelt]

i feel like i'm learning something from spectating on showdown, i'm not sure what but i'm learning

[zinc edge]

😂

[strange fjord]

currently at like 1770 in Master Ball. This Champions thing is no joke