I feel really bad after losing 2 matches in a row only to be set by a bot
#competitive_discussion
wild knot
shadow wind
Showdown, champs doesn't show ranks
wild knot
Still need an answer for trick room my team is too quick
cyan smelt
just add one slow mon
wild knot
Idk who to replace
molten oasis
Yea nah back to phox lmfao
cyan smelt
send your team
molten oasis
Drampa isn’t very good
cyan smelt
i think i like coaching gambit
rustic mountain
wolfey also swapped off drampa p quickly lol
wild knot
cyan smelt
add crab, that should deter tr
molten oasis
wolfey also swapped off drampa p quickly lol
I see
wild knot
But who to replace
shadow wind
3 ice types 😭
lost sun
wolfey also swapped off drampa p quickly lol
is he still using the froslass team
cyan smelt
froslass or a9
molten oasis
Currently tree I’m on this https://pokepast.es/de4ac287534a8089
molten oasis
Don’t run both snow setters, one or the other
cyan smelt
and you don't need 3 ice types
rustic mountain
is he still using the froslass team
thats wat he mainly used
rustic mountain
Currently tree I’m on this https://pokepast.es/de4ac287534a8089
seems solid
idk how i feel bout delphox mega tho
molten oasis
Core kicks ass, sneaslers been great
molten oasis
idk how i feel bout delphox mega tho
It’s solid into zard and venu
shadow wind
Currently tree I’m on this https://pokepast.es/de4ac287534a8089
I'm also on the sd glasses gambit ride
That guy does damage
molten oasis
Sleeps annoying as shit but you can play around it
cyan smelt
i'm greedy, i'm on the sd coaching gambit ride
lost sun
That guy does damage
king for a reason
molten oasis
That guy does damage
Kingambit one of the best offensive non megas imo
He’s just kinda goated
rustic mountain
dnite megas has been ight, some mus its genuinely unbringable which doesnt feel great
cyan smelt
chomp as well
rustic mountain
but its better then i originally thought
shadow wind
cyan smelt
chomp is ridiculous with scarf
shadow wind
This what I've been rocking
cyan smelt
aerodactyl is top 3 megas easily
lost sun
https://pokepast.es/1da7b61fb1456760
what's the 15 speed on gambit do
molten oasis
I’ve legit seen more sash dactyl than mega
rustic mountain
seein the new ev spreads on mons is so weird
shadow wind
Pushes it to 85 which makes it outspeed Zard Y in tw
molten oasis
seein the new ev spreads on mons is so weird
It’s jarring asf
rustic mountain
wdym 2 hp
cyan smelt
4 move kang, what are you cooking conner, should i change to that
spiral zealot
im not gonna lie it is pretty funny to me to see people who are locked tf in, max rank in the game in under a week, and have not customized their characters whatsoever past the default
shadow wind
4 move kang, what are you cooking conner, should i change to that
I like it
molten oasis
I look and I’m like “I’m wasting evs fuck”
cyan smelt
i should prolly switch to 4 move kang since i'm rocking coaching
wild knot
Hmm do i replace ? If i do replace a9, 3 megas, if i replace fross i cant to blizzard spam except a9
molten oasis
Hmm do i replace ? If i do replace a9, 3 megas, if i replace fross i cant to bli...
2 at most
3 megas is too many
rustic mountain
im not gonna lie it is pretty funny to me to see people who are locked tf in, ma...
first time i matched into some1 w/ the same fit (the default) i was like ahh hell no and went to the shop and got some drip
cyan smelt
replace froslass
shadow wind
Drago how has soft sand chomp been
rustic mountain
shadow wind
I was between soft sand and white herb
wild knot
okay ill give it a shot
molten oasis
Drago how has soft sand chomp been
I fucking hate scarf, and it does really solid damage
shadow wind
And it's good for when there isn't an incin
molten oasis
Scarf feels wrong man
wild knot
Evs?
cyan smelt
is it just me or is mega aggron ridiculous
shadow wind
Although I kinda like the 1 free speed drop where I don't need to care
molten oasis
And it's good for when there isn't an incin
I mean even then you do a good amount of damage
spiral zealot
first time i matched into some1 w/ the same fit (the default) i was like ahh hel...
yeah like even if you dont wanna spend 1000 VP on a shirt you could at least pick a non-default hairstyle or something 
molten oasis
Infact that core is what I was using in pre champs
shadow wind
Nice little 180 bp move
cyan smelt
i need to go through the shop and buy everything, i have like 66k vp
rustic mountain
yeah like even if you dont wanna spend 1000 VP on a shirt you could at least pic...
lmao nah battles only 
molten oasis
I’ve tried other things but that hasn’t hit as hard
rustic mountain
is it just me or is mega aggron ridiculous
ridiculously bad? yes
molten oasis
Delphox puts up work, gambit and Garchomp are goated, and a9’s been solid too. Sneasler goes to a lot of games tho
Lots of incin
Which means free unburden
shadow wind
I think Aerodactyl is my new goat
rustic mountain
i didnt know wat it did, realized it became solid steel type and really high defense, proceeded to stall out tr then ko'd it w/ weather ball
spiral zealot
@rustic mountain can i see your drip
molten oasis
Sneasler doesn’t feel nearly as bad to play with or into imo
rustic mountain
<@669294124649676800> can i see your drip
not near my switch, gimme a bit i gotchu
shadow wind
Which is why I like aero
rustic mountain
Dire claw nerf was pretty nice
even w/o the nerf itd b fine w/ no tera
the nerf was nice tho
shadow wind
130 speed tailwind setter? Sign me up
molten oasis
I think that move needed a nerf
But it wasn’t going anywhere since we don’t have shifu
dull ibex
rustic mountain
im just glad this meta has felt different
dull ibex
^
rustic mountain
arch is fine, its just the broken guy it once was.
dull ibex
I was suggested going sturdy
lost sun
I haven’t seen any Archaludon
I've seen a few
rustic mountain
I haven’t seen any Archaludon
seriously? feel like half my games played had arch hahaah
molten oasis
seriously? feel like half my games played had arch hahaah
I’m serious I’ve seen like, 1
shadow wind
Real
rustic mountain
on champions?
shadow wind
I mean every other game is rain so like
rustic mountain
or u talkin sd
molten oasis
Well no on showdown
I need to go play champions just haven’t solidified the 6th yet
Maus feels meh
rustic mountain
oh well yea go play champions and tell me then how many arch u run into lmao
lost sun
y not just play champs
molten oasis
oh well yea go play champions and tell me then how many arch u run into lmao
Me in a hour: “bro there was only Archaludon”
wild knot
Evs in mega crab? Is it bulky enough so i can just max attack and hp?
shadow wind
y not just play champs
Showdown will always be more accessible and quicker
rustic mountain
Me in a hour: “bro there was only Archaludon”
its quite a bit man, maybe not half but 100% a 3rd of my games had arch
shadow wind
And easier to teambuild in because you have the entire mon list right infront of you
molten oasis
Gotcha
I’m ngl, the less items is sort of a nice change of pace
Tho I think taking out av and goggles was fucking rough
dull ibex
So we got sun zard sun, and Peli rain for aggressive cores
shadow wind
I’m ngl, the less items is sort of a nice change of pace
Agreed
rustic mountain
i mean i just jumped into champs, it was day 1 u didnt need to teambuild and practice on sd, just go out and ball and see if u needa change anything as u go
dull ibex
Any other cores
shadow wind
I just wish we got like a couple more
molten oasis
Tho I think taking out av and goggles was fucking rough
This
cyan smelt
guys the new team changes i've made are working out great! i've won two in a row
shadow wind
Expert belt would've been my goat
molten oasis
No av or goggles makes zard venu so oppressive
rustic mountain
zard kinda mid
molten oasis
zard kinda mid
shadow wind
Real
rustic mountain
shadow wind
Bro gets packed up by a dead bird
rustic mountain
not impressed by it
molten oasis
Zards like top 3 megas to
wild knot
Yeah i crit ko a arch with like 70-80% health with blizzard mega fross
rustic mountain
i wanna use it myself but idk maybe its cuz my rain team is really good vs it
shadow wind
not impressed by it
I think it's because people ain't clicking weatherball 😭
cyan smelt
yawn skeledirge is so goated
molten oasis
Overheat and be shit for the rest of the game cool
shadow wind
All these dumbos clicking heat wave and dealing 88% to both mons then dying
rustic mountain
maybe
shadow wind
God forbid they click the nuke
rustic mountain
thats just my initial impression onnit, i get its supposed to be a top mega, and u def gta respect it but w/ rain and the options i have, its not scary
ive yet to lose to sun
molten oasis
Ik what is scary
shadow wind
The existence of rock slide keeps it in check
molten oasis
rustic mountain
yes
shadow wind
Yeah that guy is terrifying
molten oasis
This thing is a fucking monster dude
rustic mountain
mega floette is scary haha i wanna use it next
molten oasis
155 with fairy aura is not okay game freak
dull ibex
mega floette is scary haha i wanna use it next
I can't 😔
shadow wind
I'm still using Mega Garde cause I don't have lza 😭
molten oasis
“Can kill the man but not the idea”
rustic mountain
rip
molten oasis
Our flutter before flutter returns
dull ibex
I have 3 flutters 🙂
molten oasis
And they took out metagross as they introduced floette which I think is wild
rustic mountain
i think +1 fairy aura moonblast is not far off xerneas +2 its just not as bulky
molten oasis
It’s physical bulk is pretty bad
rustic mountain
thats my gameplan
molten oasis
79/78 or smth
rustic mountain
hit it hard w/ wave crash
molten oasis
thats my gameplan
Dire claw go brr
spiral zealot
adamant adaptability basculegion ohkos Zard Y in sun with wave crash
molten oasis
Yuh
cyan smelt
busted mon
wild knot
do i make Crab max hp and max attack or do i just bulk it up a little more cause attack stat already nuts
shadow wind
My game plan is to click cm with my Garde and then hopefully kill it in 2 turns
rustic mountain
i have yet to face a palafin
molten oasis
Palamid once again
rustic mountain
opportunity cost is tough
cyan smelt
do i make Crab max hp and max attack or do i just bulk it up a little more cause...
test it on showdown, buff the weakest stats first
molten oasis
Palafin or basc, even starmie
rustic mountain
?
cyan smelt
basc hits harder and provides better pivoting options
molten oasis
Uhhh, you can use Palafin or you can use Basc or Starmie, I feel each would be more cost effective than Palafin
I’m getting off work, exhausted
molten oasis
theres gta b a team comp its atleast serviceable on
Smth with incin sini maybe, with mega dnite on rain or smth
rustic mountain
palafin/incin/sini/kang as a rough draft idea to start
molten oasis
I forgot kang existed
rustic mountain
Smth with incin sini maybe, with mega dnite on rain or smth
rain might make it too exploitable idk
worth considering tho
molten oasis
Into what tho, there’s like, sini venu and rotom the grass and electric types aren’t super common
cyan smelt
mega gard seems good too, esp against mega floette
molten oasis
No rilla is great for it
molten oasis
mega gard seems good too, esp against mega floette
Nah, just, nah
molten oasis
Delphox has good special bulk and I watched it take like 60% from light of ruin
Floette is disgusting
molten oasis
He's the goat 🐐
Ah yes soccer goal
cyan smelt
you know what my fav thing to do is, encore mons into protect, or force em to switch with yawn
rustic mountain
Into what tho, there’s like, sini venu and rotom the grass and electric types ar...
dude rotom is pretty common haha + other things threaten peli and palafin outside just se. its awkward to position weather and palafin imo
shadow wind
Sorry that ":goa" goes to goal instead of goat
rustic mountain
id prefer to opt for 1
molten oasis
dude rotom is pretty common haha + other things threaten peli and palafin outsid...
Ik it’s common it’s still one of the only things
But if that’s true
rustic mountain
and again, maybe rain palafin is the way, i could also see a perish mode w/ gengar palafin
shadow wind
Showdown has new toy syndrome
True
cyan smelt
gengar is a menace
shadow wind
But Mega Kang is so fire
rustic mountain
u flex if u want it and having extra pressure w/ essentially a 2nd mega slot in palafin hero
shadow wind
Sometimes I don't even mega bro
molten oasis
Idt it’s a top tier mega tho
cyan smelt
i also am a mega kang truther
rustic mountain
gengar is top 3
molten oasis
It’s solid and I respect it when it’s there but idt it’s really up there
molten oasis
gengar is top 3
Talking about kang
shadow wind
Kang like top 10
molten oasis
Top 10 for sure
rustic mountain
kang top 10ish yea, its not its former self
molten oasis
But idk about top 5
cyan smelt
where would u rank mega chandelure
rustic mountain
top 30
molten oasis
Yuh
rustic mountain
its not good
molten oasis
Right at uh, 29 next to his friend chimecho
rustic mountain
cyan smelt
what do you think of mega delphox tree, bait or good
molten oasis
They shafted all of the new megas except like a couple
lost sun
why do people wait down the timer so often in sd
molten oasis
Fckn lame as hell
shadow wind
why do people wait down the timer so often in sd
Thinking
molten oasis
why do people wait down the timer so often in sd
Thinking
shadow wind
W
lost sun
the guy literally waited too long and lost due to inactivity
rustic mountain
what do you think of mega delphox tree, bait or good
i dont think its good but im not sure tbh, it is still early
shadow wind
Great minds thing alike eh Drago
rustic mountain
unfortunately most megas arent good yet again
molten oasis
I think it’s good
cyan smelt
mega ttar has gotta be top 3
molten oasis
(It’s better than a lot of the new megas)
rustic mountain
mega ttar has gotta be top 3
no, top 5 tho
lost sun
Thinking
thinking so hard they parting shot my Incin instead of the mega floette that protected the previous turn
molten oasis
I also like having a fire mega that doesn’t force you on sun
rustic mountain
it also doesnt give u a sun boost
molten oasis
Doesn’t need it
159 special attack is still really high and it outspeeds almost everything
cyan smelt
i wonder if someone will find a way to make mega meganium good
molten oasis
Probably but Meganium is mid
rustic mountain
ive seen ppl run it to some success
cyan smelt
150 bp fire weather ball in rain is no joke
rustic mountain
i think its 1 of those that prolly wont b good but may surprise ppl early
once the other good megas come in tho, i think its very cooked
cyan smelt
it's cooked by mega metagross
molten oasis
Imo the top 5 is like, Floette, Zard, Gengar, Ttar, and probably Dactyl rn
cyan smelt
i'm keen to see if mega dragalge is good
rustic mountain
159 special attack is still really high and it outspeeds almost everything
the sun is also a nice defensive cover for fire types not just offensively
molten oasis
the sun is also a nice defensive cover for fire types not just offensively
Wave crash wipes zard anyway
rustic mountain
scarf adaptability basc maybe haha but not every water move in sun
molten oasis
Ik tho, im not saying its better I just think phox has different applications
rustic mountain
i gotchu, i havent used it i just dont see the appeal necessarily
molten oasis
Zard’s a great Mon, but you don’t run Zard on snow or sand
Also don’t really think a9 snow has great options beyond, maaaybe Gengar and Delphox
Sand gets Ttar so, sand button
rustic mountain
double weather zard but its sand instead as the secondary 
shadow wind
🥶
molten oasis
double weather zard but its sand instead as the secondary <:ASbigBrain:582388547...
Kinda surprised about lass being kinda just okay rn
rustic mountain
yea i get the flexibility option, its just is delphox worth that. even dnite as good as its been im like is this really mega worthy? haha
molten oasis
I think so personally
cyan smelt
i gotta credit them, i like the changes champions made with move tutoring, no more egg moves or tms
molten oasis
No other mega has landed for me yet either
cyan smelt
so many QoL changes
molten oasis
Glimm felt only okay and im not touching floette, maybe ill try zard but sun isnt my thing
rustic mountain
y not floette
cyan smelt
why not ttar
molten oasis
y not floette
Mirrors.
rustic mountain
yea i guess
molten oasis
That sounds miserable.
molten oasis
Even then I’m still playing a mirror yk?
cyan smelt
why not play mega gengar perish trap lol
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
u jus need something that breaks the mirror
But when you break a mirror you're just left with more mirrors
molten oasis
Paper
cyan smelt
that's why you fake out and protect lots
molten oasis
It’s so frail I like having some bulk on my main mons
rustic mountain
Even then I’m still playing a mirror yk?
i guess, most ppl either arent playing floette or dont have za to even get one to begin w/
wild knot
Hmm i faced mega steelix its slower the mega crab..
shadow wind
that's why you fake out and protect lots
This guy might be John VGC
molten oasis
Delphox can be built to have bulk, which I’ve done
rustic mountain
its not like every other game is a mirror
wild knot
Ugh
rustic mountain
tho i just hit mball last night so maybe it will b
ive been playin rain mirrors all the way ranking up so w/e lol
rotom mow the goat
molten oasis
i guess, most ppl either arent playing floette or dont have za to even get one t...
Yeah not yet but once enough people get their hands on it it’ll be everywhere
I fight floette every other game on showdown
cyan smelt
drago how about mega crab on tr
molten oasis
It’s annoying
molten oasis
drago how about mega crab on tr
Mega crab is mid, not having Mawile for tr teams sucks
And that’s a mega I would be trying to use
rustic mountain
the tr megas suck rn
molten oasis
Drampa, camerupt, crab, just use Torkoal
cyan smelt
can we all agree mega audino is the worst mega
rustic mountain
its bottom 3 for sure
bronze quarry
Nice design tho
molten oasis
Malamar might be the worst
cyan smelt
currently available
molten oasis
Currently? Yeah probably
All of them? I dunno
The best tr mega rn is probably golurk and even then, idk
wild knot
Im beating my self up cause i lost 2 matches in a row
tiny karmaBOT
cyan smelt
mega golurk is food for gambit
rustic mountain
Nice design tho
i mean sure, its just for comp it does nothing
molten oasis
Yeah just use gambit and Torkoal that’s your mons for tr
rustic mountain
molten oasis
I’d rather run Primarina over those megas as tr sweeper
wild knot
I still want to bring dedenne for singles as a joke
rustic mountain
wats the joke
dull ibex
Haha mon bad
wild knot
Well not really but it would be funny
molten oasis
0-5
wild knot
Still no air balloon
molten oasis
They took out so many items
wild knot
Pachi isn’t in the game
cyan smelt
is yawn + encore anti-synergy guys
molten oasis
What on earth even has that
cyan smelt
a9 has encore and skeledirge has yawn
molten oasis
You’re gonna encore and then they’re gonna switch, so probably yes
sinful solstice
Decent Prim set?
cyan smelt
ok so don't use encore and yawn at the same time
molten oasis
No not really
rustic mountain
if ur using them in conjunction, bad. if ur using them separate from one another, depending on the board state, probably good
cyan smelt
i'm using them to waste tw and tr turns etc
molten oasis
Then it’s fine just not on the same Mon
rustic mountain
just dont yawn and encore the same slot, would b a bit weird imo
cyan smelt
yeah i won't
molten oasis
Uhhh, man what other megas even are there
The ones I was looking at ARENT IN THE GAME
rustic mountain
lol
torn parrot
I’m so strsssed I laddered too much I think iv had enough beedrill
rustic mountain
ur using beedrill?
molten oasis
Makes sense it’s Maya
torn parrot
ur using beedrill?
Yeah it was fun for a bit
rustic mountain
no wonder ur stressed
torn parrot
Hella stressed lol
rustic mountain
ur using a bottom 10 mega
molten oasis
Bottom 5 imo
rustic mountain
dense latch
potential mon is honestly a compliment for beedrill
molten oasis
Potential Mon is fucking golurk bro
dense latch
like what potential gang
molten oasis
Unseen fist! Oh it’s, slow and isn’t all that bulky ok
rustic mountain
man i respect the attempt but the meta seems so hostile to beedrill
like wat does it even do
molten oasis
Beedril when Zard:
dense latch
beedrill when anything really
molten oasis
cyan smelt
beedrill when a gentle breeze
dense latch
im so impressed that you even got that high up with it wow
molten oasis
Beedrill when adapt or rain basc wave crash
rustic mountain
im so impressed that you even got that high up with it wow
whered they get to?
cyan smelt
mega garde is decent tho
dense latch
i remember seeing maya near the top of the private server but im not sure how far up she got in real sd
rustic mountain
ahh ok, was that all beedrill tho
molten oasis
Shit Lopunny exists
dense latch
ahh ok, was that all beedrill tho
yea im not sure about that
tiny karmaBOT
molten oasis
cyan smelt
i'm expecting gambit to get wisped a lot
molten oasis
Kinda doesn’t do anything rn tho
dense latch
135 speed :0 neuron activation
molten oasis
Except die
rustic mountain
its bulk is so bad
cyan smelt
sucks that scrappy is only after you mega so you can get intimidated first and then you're cooked
molten oasis
Probably explode Gengar just to die later
Ig I can try lass? A lot of the other megas fucking suck
And Glimm just doesn’t feel that good
rustic mountain
y
cyan smelt
mega froslass hits like a freight train
rustic mountain
glimm seems solid
rustic mountain
just run mamo
dense latch
i think i need to get off zard weather wars are kind of annoying
cyan smelt
run altaria mega gengar perish trap lmao
rustic mountain
Is mamo actually real?
idk but i think its solid
molten oasis
Hm
rustic mountain
u need sash tho
molten oasis
Maybe I’ll try Glimm again
dense latch
im gonna take advantage of the 60 bucks i spent and cm moonblast my way to master ball or whatever
rustic mountain
enjoy
cyan smelt
i need to finish PLZA
tiny karmaBOT
cyan smelt
is it hard to finish?
dense latch
i just need to figure out what i want
molten oasis
I feel like that guy should be really solid and up my alley
dense latch
is it hard to finish?
not really
shadow wind
i just need to figure out what i want
Aerodactyl
molten oasis
Good speed tier and solid bulk, and hits hard
dense latch
i was thinking aero chomp floette and like incin bc it's incin
cyan smelt
add sneasler for maximum lols
dense latch
my first priority is to punish sneasler
shadow wind
I have aero chomp garde
dense latch
then like maushold?
rustic mountain
damn i dont have aerodactyl shiny, do i have to really go back to za to grind for it 
dense latch
i've seen that with floette
molten oasis
I’ll try it again just need to find what to use it with
tiny karmaBOT
dense latch
i still dont have the shiny charm bc no one wanted to link trade with me 😭
dense latch
there's a mable's research thing for trade evos
molten oasis
Uhhhhh
dense latch
that gives like 2k
rustic mountain
do u not hav dlc?
molten oasis
Why does meow lowkey cover 3 of those lmao
cyan smelt
does dlc make it easier to get the charm?
dense latch
yea but i dont wanna grind that much in za bc i've had like no free time as of late
molten oasis
Glimm by itself takes out zard whimsi stuff which is great
rustic mountain
does dlc make it easier to get the charm?
yea
dense latch
i never did the 1k battles
rustic mountain
i did the 1k battles it sucked
cyan smelt
pokemon is slowly becoming p2w
dense latch
i needed like 2 left but my nso expired
rustic mountain
pokemon is slowly becoming p2w
slowly?
cyan smelt
rapidly
rustic mountain
welcome aboard the train has left the station awhile ago
dense latch
at least in champs its just floette
molten oasis
Does anything beat Garchomp and kingambit?
dense latch
and champions monetization isnt that aggresive lowkey
rustic mountain
i needed like 2 left but my nso expired
i mean theres tons of other things in the dlc to get points for lvl 50/shiny charm. if u need evo help tho i can help in like a day or 2. how many evos do u need help w/
molten oasis
And Ttar
dense latch
just two or three i think
rustic mountain
thats all thats standing b/w u and the charm?
cyan smelt
i should really finish plza
dense latch
and like an extra 500 pts
rustic mountain
and champions monetization isnt that aggresive lowkey
ive spent $0 on the game but i also have spent over 200 on the other games and dlcs
so like idk
dense latch
spending is capped at like 67 bucks
rustic mountain
wdym
dense latch
membership + pass + starter pack
cyan smelt
are some of the megas gonna get sprites on showdown soon, it's disconcerting seeing an empty box for them
rustic mountain
are some of the megas gonna get sprites on showdown soon, it's disconcerting see...
idk
dense latch
u can get the year for 40 i think
rustic mountain
they usually take a bit w/ that stuff
cyan smelt
oh well they had the format up really quickly
dense latch
that's easier to do tho
cyan smelt
i see they already have a sprite for chimeco so hopefully it doesn't take too long for floette
tiny karmaBOT
rustic mountain
they r all volunteers essentially, sd isnt their job
dense latch
yea
rustic mountain
so it varies wen things get handled/ addressed that may not b the main thing they r concerned over
cyan smelt
true i'll just be patient
cyan smelt
if i switch sneasler to sash what item should a9 hold
lost sun
if i switch sneasler to sash what item should a9 hold
maybe a resist berry
molten oasis
Hear me out
32+ Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Venusaur: 156-184 (100.6 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
No sash is gonna save you now
cyan smelt
same thing with sash sneasler lol
molten oasis
And whimsi
next dust
Can you use perish song on pokemon and then spirit shackle them in place?
Do they work at the same time?
next dust
That's the only way to make full perish work in champions then hell yeah thank you
dense latch
you have mega gengar
next dust
And how do you deny them swapping after you swap mega Gengar out so he doesn't die
shadow wind
32+ Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Venusaur: ...
Just don't miss !
dense latch
protect, fake out etc it's a hard strategy to pull off for that
molten oasis
Just don't miss !
Only thing but if I miss oh well
next dust
Those don't stop the other trainer from changing out their mons before Gengar returns to the field
dense latch
but it helps gengar stay on the field
next dust
He has to be swapped or he dies too
And then I lose my only shadow tag user
And when he is swapped. I lose shadow tag making my opponents free to swap too
next dust
That's the whole reason I needed to know if spirit shackle denies swap out. There is zero other shadow tag users. There is zero arena trap users. It's just spirit shackle to keep them locked in place while I swap Gengar out preventing his death from perish song
lost sun
And how do you deny them swapping after you swap mega Gengar out so he doesn't d...
swap out the last turn of perish
next dust
swap out the last turn of perish
If you were stuck in perish wouldn't you also swap out last turn of perish?
lost sun
don't think the game lets u
next dust
Wait. Can they? Do I not understand this right.
I didn't think about that
I haven't tried that
shadow wind
The game doesn't even let you select the switch button when shadow tag is on the field
lost sun
ye only ghost types and Pokémon with moves that let them swap out like u turn can escape shadow tag
next dust
I've just been killing two mons and sacrificing sinistcha and mega Gengar keeping one Mon in the back to win 😂 holy hell I'm a dumbass
Thanks for the help guys
shadow wind
If you guys are looking for a W leaderboard spot I'd say right now is the best time on showdown
torn parrot
Respect!!!!
shadow wind
Says you
torn parrot
Nice climb Conner!
cyan smelt
guys i think the changes i made to my team are working, i've won 3 in a row
shadow wind
Thanks goat
cyan smelt
oh grats conner
foggy cloak
Finally played Champions and if there's one thing I learned, it's that Memento is actually a pretty good move 💯
shadow wind
Rotom is strong
south pumice
How fast is incineroar usually?
cyan smelt
bruh i just played someone who just kept setting up spikes and toxic spikes, this isn't singles
ok i think this new team is cooking, i've won 4 in a row
cyan smelt
i think i need to buy up everything in the store
rustic mountain
my intro to mball in champions was brutal lol, threw my first game and proceeded to get cooked the next 2 games
cyan smelt
what sort of teams are in mball
rustic mountain
atleast got the next 2 but man, this team might not b built for it
rustic mountain
what sort of teams are in mball
scarf pult
chrome knot
waow
cyan smelt
scarf pult
cooking
rustic mountain
it def cooked me lol
im havin fun atleast, gna prolly try and train my floette transfer it in and some other mons then crash
lost sun
scarf pult
I faced one of them
dense latch
sick
i like the jackets with the details and shit but there's too many to choose from
rustic mountain
limited options but im not mad at it
dense latch
5 colors is too many for me
spiral zealot
sweet!
we have the same hair
rustic mountain
nice
molten oasis
scarf pult
rustic mountain
lmao ik
molten oasis
He hates scarf chomp ig
rustic mountain
my basc outspeeds regular pult, scarf pult? not so much
molten oasis
And basc
rustic mountain
not that my gameplan necessarily hinged on that but it sucked lol
molten oasis
Unfortunate
foggy lodge
I've had so much people delay mega for absolutely no reason I had someone not mega their Gardevoir and hyper voice infront on my Sinistcha LOL master ball is weird
rustic mountain
i had a guy mega his ttar at 36%
foggy lodge
Its so weird
lost sun
i had a guy mega his ttar at 36%
did he have no other mega
foggy lodge
Someone mega evolved at literal 1 hp in front of me i don't remember what their mon was
dense latch
I've had so much people delay mega for absolutely no reason I had someone not me...
never let them guess your next move or whatever
foggy lodge
I think it was a dnite LMAO
spiral zealot
yall just dont understand cuz ur not pros
its called mind games
rustic mountain
did he have no other mega
idk
rustic mountain
I think it was a dnite LMAO
ahh yes the 1hp multiscale
foggy lodge
I actually been delaying mega floette infront of other fairies #genius
To not give them the fairy aura boost
rustic mountain
yes we know
dense latch
maxi what are u using alongside floette
foggy lodge
But it happens 1 time out of 30 battles
chrome knot
I've had so much people delay mega for absolutely no reason I had someone not me...
ive been watching sneasler players forget that delphox after tera outspeeds
dense latch
is it the team from the group?
rustic mountain
tera? 
foggy lodge
is it the team from the group?
Yeah
dense latch
mega tera tomato tomato
rustic mountain
dont scare me like that, tera was cool but it being gone now? 
foggy lodge
Im enjoying this format but im scared this is just the mega honeymoon please tell me megas are as cool as they are for most of the time
rustic mountain
on a serious note im still workin out of my head sometimes like oh no dont be concerned bout if it changed to xyz type its gna stay that type haha
foggy lodge
It feels weird hitting tyranitar without it becoming a ghost or a flying type
rustic mountain
right lol
cyan smelt
emma tysm for recommending encore ninetales, it's saved me sm
foggy lodge
Sometimes im like "okay you are switching or protecting right" and they just let it die
rustic mountain
foggy lodge
Also
cyan smelt
i love that
cyan smelt
go for no 1 atp
shadow wind
Man I get so shaky when I do
chrome knot
on a serious note im still workin out of my head sometimes like oh no dont be co...
i had to like reconstruct my brain
shadow wind
Maya already pushed me to go past settling for 20th
But like 7s a pretty awesome number
And it's the last "small" elo gap
cyan smelt
i'm just watching a game with phillybeatzu
cyan smelt
he's trying mega alakazam with psychic terrain meowstic
shadow wind
I go on a streak and then take even a 3 minute break and just lose all the mojo I had
foggy lodge
Sick man
cyan smelt
i'm feeling more confident in my team now which is great
shadow wind
Not so much in the game but in the match making
I was 14th and matched into the guy in 15th 💀
foggy lodge
Conner how likely is it to get top 1 on the reg I bo1 ladder🤠
cyan smelt
is this bo3 ladder btw
shadow wind
Nah bo1
cyan smelt
killin it
shadow wind
I figure I should just do what's going to be on champs
shadow wind
Conner how likely is it to get top 1 on the reg I bo1 ladder🤠
Oh man
Seeing more than 5 items would give me a heart attack right now
foggy lodge
Seeing a single tera
cyan smelt
i unfortunately can't attend the next aussie regional but maybe i try and attend some locals
shadow wind
Can't even think about Reg I
red willow
Lol that play kinda decimates rain thats funny
cyan smelt
i keep wondering where the tera button is lol
foggy lodge
You are eating a tera flying or tera ground bullshit and inmediatly going back to reg M-A LMAO
shadow wind
Seeing a single tera
A tera would literally send me into a coma
red willow
Oppo volt switched off rotom proccin sash and switched in ttar setting sand and killing my weather setter lol
cyan smelt
i hope they wait a while before introducing tera
shadow wind
Probably one of the worst games I've ever played lowkey
It looks like I'm trying to lose
shadow wind
But yeah a +20 to get to top 10 I think I need to just thank the lucky stars and move on with my day
cyan smelt
then i took a break and looked at my team so i'm gonna do that when i get tilted because it works
shadow wind
I went through a couple teams before settling on this
cyan smelt
i'm glad my goat gambit is good again
shadow wind
And I only did this team because the showdown building has Aerodactyl front and center
It's funny this team is somewhat similar to my first team I made for champs
cyan smelt
i feel like i can never get the sucker punch calls right
foggy lodge
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2581249395
Aerodactyl is so cool man
I want to use it
red willow
Wait that water spider thing is legal
cyan smelt
good thing ur not a mega zard bot conner
red willow
doesnt it hit kinda hard
shadow wind
good thing ur not a mega zard bot conner
I could never
Even though I have childhood attachment to Zard Y
red willow
Aquarachnid?
shadow wind
Thank you Zard Y for landing your fire blast to kill Dianthas Mega Gardevoir in the XY pokemon league 🫡
foggy lodge
"im running zard y and venusaur combo alongside garchomp and sneasler to help with the mirror and incineroar for support"
shadow wind
Oh yeah I was going to find my teams and compare
foggy lodge
cyan smelt
i have a childhood attachment to gliscor because i thought gligar had a cool design in gsc and i liked its cry
i also have a childhood attachment to dunsparce because of that 1% encounter rate in the dark cave
mighty stump
"im running zard y and venusaur combo alongside garchomp and sneasler to help wi...
HAHAHHAHA
shadow wind
First team was the first team I made and the second one is the team I'm currently using
mighty stump
I should run Rock Slide randomly on Snorlax bro
shadow wind
I really like the mega combo of Gard and Kang
cyan smelt
skill swap huge power self destruct tofu
shadow wind
Still not 100% on the items cause this team is pretty new
cyan smelt
it would work 1% of the time but it would be hilarious
rustic mountain
i had to like reconstruct my brain
what mega u been running
shadow wind
Not my proudest work but it's chill
shadow wind
TR right now is really mid
foggy lodge
I should run Rock Slide randomly on Snorlax bro
Ive been seeing some wild shit with rock slide on master ball
foggy lodge
What does TR even do now
shadow wind
Ive been seeing some wild shit with rock slide on master ball
Zard Y phenomenon
lost sun
What does TR even do now
torkoal probably
foggy lodge
Cool fake out tr incin walls your whole team cool
shadow wind
What does TR even do now
Crab?
rustic mountain
What does TR even do now
idk it was torkoal crambominable giraffe incin
shadow wind
Honestly the crab is pretty scary
rustic mountain
they also had gambit which for some reason they didnt bring
lost sun
ye crab can 1 shot a lot of Pokémon
rustic mountain
they over predicted me switching dnite into incin and cc'd and i mega'd and draco ko'd them
lost sun
or be close so farig can clean with hyper voice
rustic mountain
its ok i think, but not great
cyan smelt
which mon has surprised you the most so far
strange fjord
Oh, that I recognize that name @shadow wind
shadow wind
which mon has surprised you the most so far
Aerodactyl
shadow wind
Oh, that I recognize that name <@638505796476469249>
Man am I lucky for getting a pairing like that
rustic mountain
which mon has surprised you the most so far
that ive used? prolly rotom mow. played against mega floette for sure
rustic mountain
ive seen it a few times
rustic mountain
What does the mower do?
mostly scarf e web spam but also good pivot piece thats bulky
shadow wind
Running trick or nah?
rustic mountain
nope
cyan smelt
and resists sand well too right
shadow wind
Ttar knock off probably does like 70
rustic mountain
lol
shadow wind
Jeez I'm already 9th on the ladder?
rustic mountain
mamos good for sand actually
shadow wind
mamos good for sand actually
Yo I was thinking about using Mamo
cyan smelt
i should play some more
shadow wind
Mamo seems pretty good right now
cyan smelt
mamo is great just don't use it for meme no guard fissure spam
shadow wind
Oblivious and then hits just so many mons
He's just terrible into Sneasler
Which I guess a lot of mons are
Sneasler fries my team if played right
cyan smelt
sneasler fries a lot of teams tbh
rustic mountain
its been good and i built the team to hav 3/5 partners b able to stay next to eq
wasnt built around mamo really but worked out
rustic mountain
u just need sash
rustic mountain
protect/eq/ice shard/ice crash
shadow wind
Ok yeah that's what I would run
cyan smelt
that seems great against chomp
rustic mountain
it is
rustic mountain
yea if no bulk prolly otherwise nah
shadow wind
Adamant probably yeah?
rustic mountain
shard is usually to pick off things
shadow wind
Like the mamo
rustic mountain
Adamant probably yeah?
yep
shadow wind
I was like literally theorycrafting Mamo yesterday so it's pretty fresh in my mind
cyan smelt
i've literally won 5 in a row, i am cooking
torn parrot
@shadow wind YOU GOT THIS CONNER
cyan smelt
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2581266756-6ek627lhpgawub6rsbah5w3tqt7fq3npw how could i have played better here?
should have brought gambit i think
this team is feeling good though
knotty mirage
Question can mega charizard y survive wave crash from adaptability bascu under the sun ?
cyan smelt
doubtful
pearl wind
not looking good
32 Atk Adaptability Basculegion Wave Crash vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 152-180 (98 - 116.1%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
knotty mirage
Uh this sucks i lost my win streak because i'm confident my zard can live wave crash under sun
cyan smelt
lost my 6th game but that's ok! i need to review it
shadow wind
Peaked second
shadow wind
Wish I got #1 but it's whatever
atomic portal
Wish I got #1 but it's whatever
maybe mf drops a game
torn parrot
Peaked second
Nicely done Conner!!!
spiral zealot
cyan smelt
ok i lost to ancient power torkaol
south pumice
Someone rate my team. I’ve won 6 games in a row now in masters
cyan smelt
lost two in a row, maybe i'm leading wrong
south pumice
Someone rate my team. I’ve won 6 games in a row now in masters
I call it perish in Sahara
spiral zealot
Someone rate my team. I’ve won 6 games in a row now in masters
5/10 you have a typo
mighty stump
“Somehow” working doesn’t exactly strike confidence
shadow wind
How does EQ work with stomping tantrum?
south pumice
Oh crap I gotta drop the white herb lol
shadow wind
I'm assuming EQ will never trigger stomping?
spiral zealot
I'm assuming EQ will never trigger stomping?
if EQ fails it can trigger the doubling effect of Stomping Tantrum
torn parrot
Oh crap I gotta drop the white herb lol
Just change to unburdennn
shadow wind
But failing means what in this instance
spiral zealot
getting blocked by protect doesn't count as failing but getting flinched, missing, hitting into immunity, full paralysis, sleep turn all count
shadow wind
Cause I know stomping gets finnicky with spread moves
Do you know about an immunity?
cyan smelt
ok just lost to crunch mega kang
shadow wind
Happens
spiral zealot
Do you know about an immunity?
what do u mean?
shadow wind
Holy I can't read
You said if it hits into an immunity it counts
But it only counts in the slot that it failed into right?
spiral zealot
Stomping Tantrum doesn't have to target into the slot that the previous move failed into for the double power
im watching a video right now where the guy used Zen Headbutt into Tyranitar (which fails) and then used a Double Power Stomping Tantrum into a different Pokemon
shadow wind
Interesting
But does that mean stomping tantrum gets doubled if you eq beside a levitate mon?
cyan smelt
i think this team is still good
spiral zealot
i think if you're going EQ -> ST, then EQ has to fail on every possible target if you want ST doubled
shadow wind
Hmm
spiral zealot
in the same video he tested Rock Slide into ST and ST does not double when Rock Slide only missed 1 opponent
south pumice
Just change to unburdennn
I find poison touch better to wall off something like whims
And I would run life orb but no life orb…
shadow wind
in the same video he tested Rock Slide into ST and ST does not double when Rock ...
Hmm
south pumice
shadow wind
Understanding
foggy lodge
Conner can you share your team
shadow wind
It had a couple changes mid ladder sesh and I don't know what's best
Like kowtow over iron head on gambit
cyan smelt
now i lost to what i assume is scarf armarouge?
shadow wind
I also kept losing to a mega aggron so watch out for those I guess?
foggy lodge
Like kowtow over iron head on gambit
its rough having to choose one
shadow wind
Yeah
On one hand kowtow will nuke always
But iron head is insane for when the dark is resisted
foggy lodge
Cuz like kowtow kind of just gets the most benefit out of the glasses and being able to hit with dark a lot of stuff but iron head is a steel move in a floette format
shadow wind
Exactly
mighty stump
after on SD your Kowtow is neutral pog
I don’t remember if Fairy Aura still reduces Dark move power or sth
shadow wind
Nah
foggy lodge
I like shadow ball sinistcha too i think that move will pick up in usage as the format goes on
mighty stump
My gut tells me Crabominable should have been good but TR blows rn LOL
even on bulky offense
shadow wind
I like shadow ball sinistcha too i think that move will pick up in usage as the ...
Call me an innovator
shadow wind
Lowkey might speed creep with sinistcha to 95
Outspeeding Froslass and Sneasler might be huge for this team
tiny karmaBOT
cyan smelt
dire claw + sucker punch into zard is deadly
foggy lodge
It's not too much investment tbh
shadow wind
I like it
foggy lodge
Just 5 points
shadow wind
Changing the team right now
This is just the Chomp Talonflame of this format
Except my chomp is adamant
foggy lodge
Chomp and her weird looking bird
shadow wind
252 Atk Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 144-170 (78.2 - 92.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Cause I HATE this calc
foggy lodge
How much does it improve with adamant
shadow wind
252+ Atk Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 158-188 (85.8 - 102.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Always kills after rough skin
cyan smelt
poison berry is clutch for a9 also wdym torch song doesn't melt freeze
shadow wind
cyan smelt
wholesome vgc moments
i feel like my predictions are getting better from playing randbats
shadow wind
I actually get a decent amount of people asking for my teams
But I think it's just because I play with spectators on
cyan smelt
maybe i should do that
also i've won more games with this new team than lost them so that's good
10-4
gotta review my losses
shadow wind
Legendary triple unnerve 🔥
Alright
Back up to 12th
And there's a 14 elo gap to 11th so I think I'm good for now
Happy I hit second but this team needs some serious work done
cyan smelt
maybe i should review my losses now
or wait don't they say to review it after 50 games or so
shadow wind
Not a clue
I raw dog team building
Throw the mons in the builder
Not working? Different mons in the builder
cyan smelt
ok i'm seeing how i misplayed in my losses now, that's good
i haven't brought gliscor much yet but he's clutch against sand
and sneasler
and incin too
aerodactyl gets so much tech, wide guard, taunt, tw
shadow wind
That’s why he’s awesome
Also unnerve
Unnerve in a format with 8 items is very good
cyan smelt
and common teammates are sneasler so my poison resist and fighting resist berry won't work
and incin usually rocks sitrus
lowk might replace gliscor for aerodactyl
shadow wind
Aerodactyl the goat
mighty stump
or wait don't they say to review it after 50 games or so
It’s just easier to have a larger sample size to adequately assess how you’re performing
Especially if lets say for 10 matches you just play into scrubs and get free wins
That doesn’t really count
shadow wind
My pokeball games are definitely a good indicator of how this team will function
cyan smelt
It’s just easier to have a larger sample size to adequately assess how you’re pe...
well I am still reviewing my losses and i think it's definitely a problem with misplaying rather than a problem with the team
i'm not tilting when i lose, i'm trying to approach vgc with a more positive mindset
shadow wind
W mental
mighty stump
Frustration is normal
cyan smelt
at least i was proactive and changed some things
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9championsvgc2026regma-2581331745 holy shit man's using thick fat smack down snorlax against zard
wild knot
ive gotten 2 freezes using blizzard but the oppents always seem to thaw out instantly :(
cyan smelt
have they nerfed freeze?
cyan smelt
oh they automatically thaw on the 3rd turn
that's good i think but silly that torch song doesn't thaw
minor geyser
I am starting to not like ranked in champions anymore. Some people really think you can wait the clock out. Good thing my attention span isn't broken.
cyan smelt
i think they're just deciding what to do
minor geyser
i think they're just deciding what to do
Every turn? I get it if it's once.
And it's right after their matchup suddenly isn't favorable
chrome knot
what mega u been running
floette & delphox
leaden fox
I still believe instead of Freeze; we should've gotten "Frostbite" from PLA 😅
cyan smelt
ok i lost 3 in a row maybe the team is ass, i lost to drampa
leaden fox
ok i lost 3 in a row maybe the team is ass, i lost to drampa
Yeah, Mega Drampa is strong; though I know there isn't too many Trick Room setters atm
Some yes, not a crazy amount of good ones though
cyan smelt
i should have dealt with the drampa, underestimated it
leaden fox
i should have dealt with the drampa, underestimated it
Something you now know for future reference at least
cyan smelt
i'm learning a lot about this meta
leaden fox
The meta will likely shift dependent on what mons + held items they plan to add in due time
Whether that'll be next season or season after that, we don't know
cyan smelt
argfh lost to rain
oak geode
Hey, is this a chat to discuss Champions or just Competitive in general?
cyan smelt
both
oak geode
I wanted to ask that if I have Mega Froslass and opponent has Mega Charizard Y, my Mega will Winout due to being slower, right? Or is Mega Froslass outspeeding it?
I'm on Max Speed Froslass. Don't know if Charizard is standardly on max speed
mighty stump
I wanted to ask that if I have Mega Froslass and opponent has Mega Charizard Y, ...
Mega Froslass is outspeeding Zard Y
Zard Y is base 100 while Frosslass is base 120
Zard should be max speed cause of all the mirrors and crowded speed tiers
oak geode
You are right! Did the calcs wrong (calcs is short for calculator)
I checked if 0 EV Froslass is outsped by 252 Charizard 🥀
Guess if I face it, I should be aware of that!
supple latch
Zard Y is base 100 while Frosslass is base 120
That’s insane
oak geode
Just started the game, using Froslass, what are the most represented Megas, or Megas i should make sure to build around?
mighty stump
Zard Y, Ttar, Floette are probably the megas to look at
You get the occasional Mega Gengar
oak geode
Zard Y, Ttar, Floette are probably the megas to look at
Happy to hear TTar cooking
I assume Ttar is Sandstorm,
I saw Floette is essentially Xerneas without Geomancy, is Mega Gengar just a hard matchup for Froslass?
cyan smelt
team is no good
oak geode
team is no good
?
cyan smelt
my team
cyan smelt
yeah
knotty mirage
I have question if i use greninja and activate protean and then mega evolve will protean activate for the second time or no ?
oak geode
mega alakazam and meowstic is so corny
I think Meowstic is cute therefore awesome
I wish my mega was in the game 🥀
knotty geyser
I have question if i use greninja and activate protean and then mega evolve will...
Yes
cyan smelt
i'm not doing too flash hot with this team
i hate scarf ttar bro
just lost to curse gyro ball mega steelix
knotty geyser
just lost to curse gyro ball mega steelix
I might be the only one who thinks all choice items shouda been banned im so sick of losing to 50/50 choice scarf mons EVEN when you call it out and make the correct play
cyan smelt
scarf rotom, scarf chomp, scarf ttar, what isn't scarf
i need to be prepared for scarf ttar
you know what i'm going to try, substitute skeledirge
oh and scarf basc
knotty geyser
OHHHHHHH WERE MASTER BALL BABY
cyan smelt
hype
knotty geyser
I dont think I'll reach master ball in singles
And I dont like singles as long as it stays in 3v3 format
cyan smelt
god i hate sand
waxen dock
god i hate sand
just play dou
cyan smelt
that won't help me improve
chrome knot
living comparatively makes me hate vgc and this format so much its just an incoherent mess
cyan smelt
i thought you'd be doing well and making sense of the madness emma
chrome knot
i thought you'd be doing well and making sense of the madness emma
no i keep hitting randomness and i just can’t predict stupidity its my weakness
wintry scarab
Im trying to build a Trick Room team with Tyranitar as the Base
Should I still use Archanine as my Intimidate Mon?
supple kestrel
Im trying to build a Trick Room team with Tyranitar as the Base
Should I still ...
well, hisuian arcanine get the sp def boost from sand
knotty mirage
what does everyone think about cofagrigus
I mean it can take away your openent ability but the stat is not great
Prolly as good as mega scovillain good ability but doesn't have the bulk too get anything done
knotty geyser
Prolly as good as mega scovillain good ability but doesn't have the bulk too get...
I just ran into a mega scovillian and didnt realize that its ability actives on ANY FORM of contact or other wise
It just gimps phyical attackers
knotty mirage
That's why i said the ability is good but it ussualy just burn one of your pokemon and then drop ded
cyan smelt
cofagrigus can wisp and tr, and take away basc's ability
wintry scarab
This is what I'm rocking with atm, idk what to change
knotty mirage
cofagrigus can wisp and tr, and take away basc's ability
But is cofa really that bulky tho
knotty mirage
Yeah intim only work agains't physical attack but if the mofo get hit by shadow ball i don't think it will survive unless sash
But eh you do you if you want too try using cofa go ahead
cyan smelt
i was just watching a game and saw it and thought it was interesting
knotty mirage
It just gimmicky if it's really that great it should have more usage
wintry scarab
I should get a Fake out user
cyan smelt
it forces a lot of switching
i'm thinking i go back to rock slide on gliscor for the aerodactyl mu
red willow
Man I wish Tinkatons offensive stats werent so
offensive
Thing has a funky movepool
noble hatch
any ghosts types other than gengar and dragapult seeing use rn?
noble hatch
oh yeah those 2
red willow
Skeledirge/chandelure are sometimes a thing too
noble hatch
i havent seen a single dirge yet
red willow
At least Ive bumped into em a couple times
noble hatch
or chandelure actually
cyan smelt
don't forget mega golurk (lol)
wintry scarab
don't forget mega golurk (lol)
How good is he, I saw he has unseen fist so I'm curious
cyan smelt
trash
cyan smelt
yeah it does but just be aware that you lose sharpness when you mega
noble hatch
it feels like alot of the megas we have rn have worse abilities when they do mega
noble hatch
TTar being able to reset sand to win weather fights is so good