#competitive_discussion
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idk what items to put for h arcanine and prim
i thnik just shell bell prim and leftys h arcanine no?
def not shell bell
healing is way too small for it to be worth it
if anything lefties is probably better for primarina
or mystic water
i was thinking that
but then throat chop makes that useless doe
unless i do a different water move
do lefties then and give harc smth different
the issue is arcanine lost its two best items in band and clear amulet
so maybe something like lum berry or white herb
is mega starmie any good?
as in one of the better megas, or even to be used over something like basc
i feel patrick star is good
does mental herb undo throat chop
don't see why it wouldn't be good
Surely it's good against all the mega zard y running around, can't be bad against sand either
Holy shit it has huge power?
yeah
We’ve known that since ZA
Shuca or Passho though
o true
Bro still might die
32 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Shuca Berry Arcanine-Hisui: 152-182 (89.4 - 107%) -- 43.75% chance to OHKO with intim or some bulk it'll be fine
32 Atk Garchomp 🥀🥀🥀
im gonna have to get used to it being 32 rather than 252 lol
Wait that’s 252?
32 is max yea
speed charts de Pokémon Champions, guardadlos pq es de las cosas más importantes
Freaky
Btw @shadow wind rmb yesteday when you were talking about 1800,000 ranking or sth
Yeah I found out it’s rating and not number ranks
Why is it 3 decimals 😭😭
I was like is there even 1.8 million people that play VGC
That’s why I was so baffled
The rating means nothing though and I think it’s a bad system
Imagine showdown but there’s no real time ladder and you only see where you placed at the end of the month
Highest I’ve seen was 2k
Or even Masterball rank 3
Lol yeah
we are so back
Like I wonder if it’s even coded in the game
how is everyone liking champions
Champions is fire but I wish they explained Masterball better
it's really fun
much faster than sv's battles
and im glad they're addressing the issues quickly
Same
And honestly I’m fine with the lack of items
I think it’s a good way to bring back berries
And the type chart actually matters now
You can’t beat the type chart
Not like SV
I bought the starter pack
faking out something knowing it cant tera ghost :)))
and wdym i can cc gambit and have it actually do 4x damage
I mean Kang does that anyway
No more changing colours
It’s so beautiful
Yo there’s a built in “competition mode” in champions
For when you go to like tours and that
That’s pretty neat
And can't have a covert cloak
Which I do miss
https://pokepast.es/2fba959bdb53fa90 thoughts?
Hey you're using incineroar
mega glim 🤝
I’ll use incin if I need to
lum berry…?
mega glim is fun
I guess there's like no options if sitrus is taken
Maybe you could use leftovers
adaptability goes brrrr 
i was thinking maybe chople or shuca
a resistance berry instead 
The dreaded charcoal incineroar
Uhm, shuca I guess?
dunnooo just a fun trippy & hiking
I've never seen what mega glim can do because I've always ohko it before it can move, same with mega starmie
Is the game still down
Nope
Entered the Warm up challenge with this team. Curious to see how well I'll do as it'll be the first time I've done a tourney. Probably not well as I'm like 20-10(?) With it, but I can always try.
what did the maintenance fix
The game is playable now wujuu
Are we able to join the warm-up challenge mid way
For some reason I thought the 10th was not today
April 8th 2026 02:00 UTC - April 13th 2025 01:59 UTC``` looks like it?
fair enough 
Fuming bc I lost to a crit
ok good
196 Def EVs in charizard y survives liquidation in the sun 100%
i thankfully didnt encounter any of the bugs in my seven games
eriksp has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd
i really hope i can get to masterball undefeated
idk how big the boost is but it definitely exists
Who has 0 IV rotom, gollet, toxapex, applin, klefki, and torkoal for trade? Getting really bad luck trying to catch one rn
do u think the 196 Def EVs would be worth it to survive liquidation mega starmy and rockslides from the chomp and drill
Standard sun and lefties
i feel like most of the time you'd be better off just running sash timid
idk if it's bulky enough to take advantage of lefties
That shit did 70% I think it was max max lol
for what mon
in mega charizard y I should've said
damn
im just running max max
same
196 def is overkill
252 timid is a must imo bc of how crowded that 100ish speed tier is
ye
you could drop some spatk for bulk if you think it's worth but i havent done much calcing yet
like -11% of Ur spa but u do survive some relatively common attacks that people won't expect it to
i've just been spamming eq and heat wave and probably wont stop until i face stronger players lol
I made my venusaur super toxic
quite bulky with acid spray left overs and giga drain and just fast enough to outspeed scarfchomp
I'll take that as a no then
Found my first mega hawlucha gimmick team in ultra 2, just immediately one shot before it got to use entrainment
This isn't that bad lol
Can't run sash
https://pokepast.es/5cffb078779c1620
https://pokepast.es/3f50a7d29b5b8397
which one between the two of these do you guys think looks better?
People do not understand Armour tail😭
I know theres alot of new players rn but the amount of times that a priority has been shut down and they keep trying is crazy
I saw some guy try to fake out when I had farig out twice in the same game
Litterally what happened to me then they brought a garchomp and tried to extreme speed
i like the double mega team
Bet
did you start with glimm as a solo mega?
also it might be worth it to run timid glimm so you outspeed timid zard y
tho you can kinda deal with it with the rest of the team
No I started with mega Phox
But that core gets wrecked by whimsi zard sun
o ok i was about to ask what made you add the second mega
makes sense
have u played any ttar teams yet
No
Had Tauros for a while to help, but dropped it for Glimm
Chomp Phox is my sand mu rn
I’ve debated soft sand chomp instead of scarf
Almost dropped gambit but I can’t really take on basc without it
And gambit Delphox goes hard
People don't understand scrappy either, I keep faking out mega froslasses and basculegions
gambits called the king for a reason
it might just be me being paranoid about sand mus lol i had to add sneasler to my team so it was playable
what did u swap for sneasler
I'm hardly bringing incin tbh
gambit
gambit has clutched so much for me
the original team creator also agreed it felt like deadweight
i wasnt bringing it too much
did u have a SD set
not saying it isnt a great mon
Soft Sand go hard
4-0 in a tournament rn with Mega Chandelure
but i think sneasler patches up a few trickier matchups
I've not played against sand much tbh
with the team
anyone able and willing to participate in a private battle for my mission completion?
Losing to perish trap because of 2 90 acc misses must have been the worst experience of my life
Straight up did everything right but there goes like a whole fucking hour of my life watching protects
can you guys see opp nicknames?
Yes
what's the best one so far?
I hate this happened to you but as a perish user I love this so much lmao
I think I'd get banned if I voiced my opinion on that
I was raging about it when I was playing last night too dw
just played against someone who bought both charizard y and politoed
Hmmm must be new
they couldn't take out 1 of my mons so it won't get old
My worst experience is bringing a match down to an Incin mirror 1v1. Managed to get their’s to -2 & was gonna try to attrition them out before their last Flare Blitz crit gave them the win.
I think i love scarf samurott
What’s your rating?
5-0 to 5-2 like an absolute chud
Y'know i kinda didn't realize how much i hate singles until now
Weird way to display the number
Well I can confirm losing doesn't drop your rank lol
It doesn’t but your rating lowers
Aigeslash why must you do this
@foggy lodge i got a calc’d Floette set
how could u
Going to rank 4 of master ball and the wheel bar still being there on the victory menu when you rank up confused me
I thought there might have been another climb to master ball 1 before reaching ratings
Iveseen people up to 1900s still MR 3
gotcha
We don’t jnow the thresholds atm
right
my hand was forced by ttar im innocent :(
@bold geode how is chandelure atm
hahah im mostly messing, i think sneasler w/o tera + dire claw nerf is totally fine
i thought even w/o that it was still not as crazy as ppl thought
HAHA BRO MEGA CHANDELURE STILL DIES TO ZARD IN SUN

chudzard
Oh I may hae missed the answer but like is it too late to sign up for the tournmaent
i feel like im playing less unethical ball with the dire claw nerf
i havent gotten a proc yet it's just there to deal with floette and cc gambit ttar and incin
yea its a solid mon
I saw one mega floette and took it out in 1 turn with acid spray +heatwave
even set up calm mind so mustve had 0 bulk
yea definitely, other then the rain mirrors im having fun. only lost to 1 tho and i figured out the mu (i think)
what team u using
basc/peli/mamo/dnite/incin/rotom mow
ah
this is how i learn mamo's in the game lol
mamos been cool
cool picks there and with rotom mow
gta try out a few new things haha
would u lead mow and dnite into rain mirrors
tho ive used both b4
rn it's zard/venu/chomp/gardy/incin/sneasler
i really wanna try mega floette out tho that looks insane
I need to get a hisuian typhlosion im stuck with johto form
depends on the team y?
just thinking
wasnt a lead i was considering b4 theorizing mus but now def something i might do
Also mine atm
Sylveon eats Iron Head/Dire Claw ezpz
w/ friend guard?
oh wow lol
2nd bump SpA then bulk
ahh gotcha
howve u been likin dnite mega
depressing damage but typing is too good to pass up
Placeholder for Mench tbh
essentially my thoughts so far

ok
damn
yea ive had a few instances im like damn really?
Its ok into Zard Y
but thats abt it
idk if its worth just doing Dragon Pulse for consistent chip rather than one urst
hurricane is nice for rain teams but even still like outside se targets the damage just feels like meh
mine is max modest as well 
gambit seems like a good partner for it
cover each other decently well defensively
I tend to bring Dnite/Froslas/Sneasler/Maushold
i wanna use mega floette but i wanna see how far i can go w/ mega dnite b4 running into any potential roadblocks
I think Kingambit’s optimal set would be to run
2 dark STAB + fighting for the mirror tbh

low kick 1 shots guaranteed
makes sense, u think no steel move is fine?
Yeah I never had an issue
I don't have a steel move on mine and it's doing great
Like tbh just launch the hardhitting moves into resists
for gambit ur saying?
Yeah
Love bright powder so much rn
sucker im assuming
and I have a lot of moments where I forced the switch do I could just cover slots
yeah
and in niche scenarios if someone runs Bulldoze Chomp
i basically won off that
I need to just fake out + sd sucker punch zard
what was the mindgame
Btw i keep over respecting players and they don’t click Protect and I’m like bruh
I forget we have a new influx of players
I played against a venusaur with earthquake earlier
basculegion not dying to sucker so i protected 4 turns and attacked w/ my dnite at -4 then hit em w/ a wave crash on the 5th turn as they suckered into my dnite at 90 hp and somehow lived wave crash brought em to 3hp then had a guaranteed win w/ double attacking
Medicham the goat tbh
and they suckered the previous turn b4 my basc came in so they had limited sucker pp to work w/
after the 4 protects
damn
8pp poggers
it was weird i honestly should not have won that game for countless reasons but cool to somehow pull off an obscure win
"there's no way he's protecting again"x3
i mean yea i was like honestly if imma go for it i should do it here
if they get it fine
cuz they couldve just been like if u keep protecting ill ko ur dnite, then click protect and normal move a cppl times, stall out ur remaining protect pp if u dont make that call either time and then thats just it
getting reads right is so satisfying
mfw I predict then get RNG’d is devastating
my rng is so bad
it is but id rather not get those kinda reads right, id rather be in a way better position cause i didnt botch the mid game
yeah
like im glad i got it but i looked at it like how do i not wind up here
I missed 2 heatwaves got confused by hurricane twice and had 2 self hits in one game
more annoying part was the game was still super close after this it came down to an incin 1v1
but mine had half hp so I lost
oof
I think Fighting coverage is one of the best things here
atm
I need to go make a corvi team
Copying a second plus sun at a large tournament
I love trick room so much
Master ball tier is hard
Waitttt, the drampas i've seen, have they been running berserk or cloud nine because if it's berserk I can bring a9
Deadass Sun is the one MU where the base goes hard in the paint
check the stats
no one uses drampa too
LOL
Like I'll actually use base a lot against Sun because no Charizard run Scorching Sands and they never click Solar into you so your Chandy becomes untouchable against that mon
It becomes entirely dependent on the side slot to kill Chandelure
Must be berserk then
inb4 ancient power zard from the mirror
Rinya sun flashbacks
Fuck actually I've lost to that
No joke
Is rotom wash good again
its solid enough
Thinking of slotting it on a balance team
Low power for a mega format, Rotom is usually good in lower power formats especially
Does it have decent water stab outside of pump yet? Lol
nope
Is every trick room setter running mental herb?
its either that or like Colbur Berry imo
I figured out how to stop Nintendo Piracy in like 5 minutes! Anyone want to know the details?
I just figured out that this isn’t general lol 😂 MB

As soon as I got to master ball teams stopped being the standard stuff
Maybe low rating master ball is like the low ladder of high ladder
I'm losing because it's no longer predictable
Im getting tired of weather wars might go back to balance lol
I started competitive in gen 8 and thought I liked tera
lol
What rank are you?
I thought I'd try to get master ball before a small tournament at a con this sunday
I did but now that master ball is kicking my ass I'm not quite as confident
No idea what the skill level will be there as it's not an official one
master ball 3
I'm master ball 4
what is even mball 4
i thought it started at 3
I won twice one was a forfeit
In about 5-6 games
i might be mball 4 then lol
im whaever you start at cuz I barely played after hitting mball
Should I change my team?
Maybe you just kicked ass the whole way to master ball and they put you straight into 3
age old wuestion
hell no im rusty
hahah
I don't think my team is the probelm?
Id still be scared of rusty tofu
I wish I could see how many games we’ve played
I would be more comfortable with a more hyper offense tailwind team like I had for reg B in sv thougg
then run Sun or NPlot Froslass tbh
I am running sun
I almost lost to a nasty plot delphox once
I keep changing it though
i think sun is so easy tho - zard y, whims, scarfchomp, sash venu
then just like
toss kingambit and sneasler on there and gg
LOL
I don't know what to lead into what is part of my probelm
The amount of kingambit I'm facing spiked when I entered master
Now I'm realizing the team is not as prepared for it as I'd like and my only semi reliable out is managing to land a hyper beam
what is Garde and Raichu doing there
My goat
I changed out for scarf on garde
Raichu was to solve my electric weakness which admittedly isn't coming up anymore, and garde is too help my dragon match up
but you have Chomp/Whimsi
Fair
Or manectric if anyone uses that
I actually really like hyper beam sylveon so far it's kind of like sacrificing your momentum to get rid of a massive problem
ME? HELLO?
I could replace raichu atp
But you gain momentum if its a key KO
1/1 million (minimum)
Manectric no.1 fan right here chat (possibly the only)
And not many of the archaludon I'm facing have been sturdy
"HO sun:
Zard Y is a must right now
Hisuian Typhlosion is very solid, scarf eruption generally
Whimsicott for speed control, has manual sun if needed
Garchomp is solid for dealing with rock types (and sand teams)
Venusaur (sash) for sleep powder disruption and grass type damage, decent into fairies as well (not that you struggle per say but poison damage is useful)
Sixth is a little loose as of rn
Sinistcha can be decent but you're stacking grass types on the fire boosting weather
Torkoal can be useful for a secondary weather setter but is less useful for hyper offense styles (slow)
Raichu can protect your zard y from electric types and hit waters for super effective
Sneasler is another anti-rock mon that's also generally solid on HO"
Guys anything glimmora should be outspeeding naturally? Currently doing calcs
I was following this advice
tldr
Mega or Normal?
Mega
I don't think I like my harc that much rn as I never want to bring it against rain but also don't want to bring it if I see gambit
Or scarf weatherless basc
Mega Glimmora has a single higher point of speed than either Charizard Mega
Tofu what does kingambit do for this team?
I’m not interested in speed creeping zard, it already walls it
And I have speed control and am looking for bulk
Maybe outspeed excadrill in tailwind
Mega Glim has base speed 101 so it outspeeds everything with 100 which is like Palafin, Volcarona, Mega Gardevoir, Typhlosion, Mega Kangaskhan,
I found Scarf Typhlosion pretty underwhelming without redirection support tbh
Well, walls, if it’s not running scorching sands
Thank God you said that
redstonejesus has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu
Thoughts?
I didn't want to keep searching for a hisui one
Scares Incin away and you can put it into range after a booster sucker and probably like an overheat or sth
It's what brought me to master ball but it's still kinda wip
I thought howl would be fun but only actually used it one time
Rn I outspeed sneasler at -1
Lemme send my whole team
And take it out with icy wind+ep
Ig only thing to note is that Typhlosion runs scarf, Palafin has Prio Jet Punch, Volcarona is almost always Quiver Dance
Only thing worth outspeeding I think is zard y and, that’s it
imo Scarfchomp with Bulldoze also provides speed control and is a sideslot w Zard Y
Naturally, can’t think of anything else
the 100-102 speed tier and 120s are so cramped
Does sneasler run adamant bc I swear I calcd this rotom now to live a dire claw
Sometimes
True it’s awful
And super annoying
Well every time my rotom got hit by a sneasler it was adamant then
I'm gonna start expecting most to be
What item are most Whimsicott running?
Sash
Sash

Sash
Thx
Dont expect anything else
Is mega clef any good
Scarf 
Probably not
Eeeehhhhh
I mean no one's using it so no one can confirm that it's bad
it’s not floette so, probably not. Not the worst but using a mega slot for a support doesn’t feel great
Damn, might just use primarina on my tr team since i need a fairy type anyway
Trick room sweeper
#Trust
Not even half bad on it’s own but needs the mega, probably
If i had floette i would def use it
Check mega
- has fairy aura
I would run lorb clef like i used to back in the olden days when that still existed
But noooo
Mega chimeco might be a good partner for chomp + deals with the fairies and ice types that chomp hates
Did it get levitate I didn’t check
Yes
Cool
Oh sick
Bronzong at home
Damn
I mean it'll eat hyper voice and gleam but it's not saving the chomp is it
True
Steel beam
Outclassed by the bell?
Couldn’t even get budget iron crown
I wish the bell was in the game
gyro ball
basically jut got more SpA and costs you your Mega lol
Because levitate, they said no to every truly potential mega psyspamer that isn’t pure psychic
67 hp
Mega delphox is better for chomp
75/110/120 isnt much better than 67/116/116
especially considering Bronzong can hold an item - Ig Chimeco can be more specially offensive
Calm mind
But like unless you have fighting coverage its free Kingambit food
There’s so many better option for that
I wish it just had a new offensive ability or something
What slot? Cause you’re starving fro slots already
cough cough floette
Calm mind
Focus blast
Flash cannon
Protect
Looking like a singles mon
Good ol focus miss
Tera blast
if it’s single I have no opinion, I don’t play
i mean
It’s not bad
Signal beam 🗣️
Where the hell is Flash Cannon
Bait
whaaat can i see
WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO FLASH CANNON

Maybe outdated list
it’s kinda rudimentary tbh but like
@mighty stump
I unfortunately always pick the suboptimal Mon, oh well
Any changes you'd make
Honestly maybe more Sash Venu and figure sth else of Whimsi
like Fairy Feather
Lum berry chomp kinda cool
Babiri is good for Archaludon
Oh ew venazard
Anything else?
I hate getting hit by sleep from a sash venu
nah try that
Thinking I’m gonna play and build this https://pokepast.es/87bbe875d04ee1f5
I am glad I abandoned coaching on sneasler
i mean ur mega is ur sweeper
Maybe I could go cm phox
Is there anything with rage powder
Sini
Sinis
Just double checking
Volc sinistcha vivillon
Good to know
The one format where sini’s meta because we don’t have amoonguss
Rage powder stonks up without goggles
i wanna try moxieboosted’s mega delphox mega gyarados team
Thought venusaur had it for some reason
There's also maushold with follow me
Alright some notes I want torkoal here for the tr match up and I might replace sunny day on whim with encore
Oh yeah vex didn't wolfey post a team
Farigiraf like usual
Mega, drampa stuff?
Crab
did he?
Most of what I see is tr mode for sun teams
yeah i won a match with a real person and i got errored did i still win?
It’s crab? Ok
I'm using aggron and it's working kinda well
the wallllll
Oh you said he was posting daily vids
i havent checked what todays video was im still winding down from work
Sinistcha is working well for tr, but i may switch to something else to set tr
Farig
mimikyu
Yeah that's what i thought
Spiritomb (lol)
mimikyu
is there a champions damage calc avalible now?
immune to fake out, will always live a hit cuz of disguise and can shadow sneak in the tr to still chip away
minor spelling mistake
Use the free sub to set up tr and then just shadow sneak away
And can wisp
Yeah
Trick room has been set on me multiple times
dies in minecraft
and can be an endgame sweeper when the tr ends with like swords dance and play rough
And manual weather never once come up
I want to try and make spiritomb work but it's always felt pretty passive
tr wisp shadow sneak swords dance
yipee
at +2 shadow sneak will still hurt a lot of pokemon
Oh i like that
Yeah i'll try it out and see how it does
i must spread the niche pick agenda
I should at least import a spiritomb to see what moves it gets
The light of ruin?
i can tell you for sure meowscarada would not wanna see that
im still erroring maybe no more battling today
Idt dark types want to see that
umbreon eats it trust
Should i just run adamant, or would brave be a good idea
I'm gonna import a shalpha spiritomb to see what moves it gets
sorry if this question has been asked a lot but do pokemon retain their evs when you move them from a mainline series game to champions?
Yes
should be fine with brave
yes
affirmative
thats good to know. thank you!!
brave looks pretty good since your only actual attack has prio anyways
Now the big question is do i abandon the wall for like scizor or ttar
Yeah that's the plan
strong pokemon, weak pokemon… you all know the line
That karen line is ragebait atp
Prio still cares about Speed though - especially against other slow but prio users
its a mimikyu it doesnt care about most other priority moves except maybe a +2 gambit sucker punch
Vex i feel like every time i see your team it changes
i keep updating moves
to accommodate for mus i struggle into
like youll notice a lot of them have protect now
cuz of incin and sneasler
oh and sand in general i hate sand
Do u struggle into mega froslass
no lmao
What about sun
Unironically most Mega Froslass players can’t use it well kekw
mega manectric thunderbolt can ohko mega zard
The ones i met didn't even protect in front of kang
People really don't be understanding how scrappy works
also to deal with froslass garde has mystical fire meow has dark stab umbreon has foul play manectric has ft zoroark has bitter malice and dark pulse and mikyukyu has shadow sneak all 6 of my mons can hit it for super effective damage
yeah i had my alola ninetales just encore to SD and burnt first
Shouldn’t in theory harc be solid rn?
theory and reality are not the same
It’s good into zard whimsi venu stuff
I’m aware I said in theory for a reason
not good into sand or rain
Incin isn’t either
didnt get any freezes yet from blizard XD
i really need to clean up my home boxes
chat do i play some ranked matches or do some more duolingo
try restarting your router maybe
i have other games to play
kalos what type specialist do you think id be
why would i be a poison trainer im not toxic 🙁
Y'know now that it's a bit easier to test stuff out in game i feel like i'm getting a little better
most specialists follow their types literally
hmmm maybe water
I think i am def gonna try out mega scizor on this tr team
i think youd be a fire specialist you have the passion to do well but get heated easily
fire.
yeah i could see myself being blaine
i think myself id be an electric specialist
what personality types do they have
of all the electric gym leaders are, in a word, eccentric
I might go with grass
i cant pick
eccentric but dedicated to what they do
Gee I wonder which I would have
Ice clearly
i feel like you need to explain the personality types of each type
I think personality wise maybe dark
😨
Not to be the edgy cornball most dark types aren't even evil
do you consider yourself an underhanded person?
they arent “evil” but arent against underhanded measures
Hard to say because it's relative
I'm not against breaking rules if the risk of consequences is low
im sure anyone here whos spoken to me will know i am both eccentric and dedicated to my craft of niche pokemon
Alright what do I need on a rain team

Suns not working out
try out mega chesnaught trust
Peli archa maybe dnite
I actually really like prankster rain setting because it completely negates zard y if you catch it mega evolving
I hear rain is also easy so I'm going to try rain
rain is strong
you could try Peli, Arch, Basc, Sneasler, Sinistcha, Mega Gardevoir
It can be tough finding your playstyle
I think my favorite way of playing is just maneuvering the opponent with crippling and control
Fishing for openings kinda deal
Love stuff like sableye, whimsicott, redirection
Wisp struggle bug
I love clicking big buttons
Man i wish mawile was in the game rn
Why mega garde
tofu is definitely dragon personality type
big pp damage
I like making my plan simply be to ruin their plan
Aggron is fun to squish shit but god mega mawile is fun as hell to use
SAME I WANT MY MAWILE
blZ
WHERE IS MY BABY
u get tinkaton and u will like it
pixilate hyper voice + psychic
i also have klefki but its not the same
you forgot to mention big pp damage
Oh god hyper voice
AAAAAAAAA
lot of special nukes running around
and that flower
that thing is a menace
How do rentals work in this game
kalos is there anyone who i should go to to learn about eating dirt
What
like team or ranch mons?
rental team you have to have that pokemon in your box somewhere
Nvm my question has been answered
oh..
At least it's not that hard to have them somewhere if you have mainline games to transfer from
bwahacough
yummy dirt
Annoying that they basically made rentals harder to use but at least it's still better than training teams from scratch in mainline games with all of ev training mints bottle caps breeding and stuff
basically u use ttar, excadrill, corviknight, rotom wash, garchomp and win
i think i need to some how deal with entrainment shenagins
im using ttar and chomp and corv, but not rlly winning lol
well do you have a team paste, maybe we can figure out what's going wrong
Just kill either hawlucha or the side thing before it can move
wait how do u paste? can u paste in champignon
Or prankster taunt
blizzard spam yes
take a screenshot of your team
oh lol
what are partners to hawlucha so i know what to look for
any mon that can have either fissure, horn drill or sheer cold
the ice cream, something with horn drill?
Excadrill snorlax vanilluxe kingambit all coincidentally weak to close combat
thank fuck for that
But if you see hawlucha expect the gimmick
mr.rime has sheer cold
There's no real other point in using hawlucha
i can sucker punch that mr rime
or fake out + sucker
Abomasnow, Vanilluxe, Excadrill, Krookodile, Mudsdale, Rhyperior, Garganacl, Snorlax, Torkoal, and Kingambit is the full list of viable ones
I actually lost to a runerigus next to hawlucha because I thought "why tf are they giving entrainment to that does it get fissure too" then just got baited by protect on lucha and my way to ohko it wisped
Then they switched in the actual fissure pokemon
if i see a wisper i am using the full force of gambit
The full force of a burnt gambit is not as much as you might like
most ghost types have wisp don't they so i just hit it full force t1
or fake it out with kang and sd
Rime!
do u like mr rime
I think I'll start a new team from scratch tomorrow
Want to have options for the irl thing sunday so I can weigh which of my teams turns out better
Aight, finally got home from work. Time to try and climb
What rank did you stop at?
Made it to ultra 3, went down to 4, then back to 3
I didn’t even jnow you could go down
did you face bots?
really wish we could save replays
ye
would help with sharing bugs too
@cyan smelt
anti synergy having dnite there, sand breaks multiscale
scarf chomp instead of bright powder, you want rough skin not sand veil
idt milotic should have king's rock, meme item
dnite has innard focus and chomp has rough skin and is special lol coz im scared of archduladon
hmmmm i feel like you could go a strong fighting type here
this guy has a special place in hell his umbreon has toxic wish protect
holy singles moveset batman
If you run Special Chomp you may win against Archa but lose against others
and im losing cuz of toxic stall
meme how about mega aggron on your team, don't eq next to it but you can destroy arch with body press
kalos i think i might be cooked
i dont wanna forfeit though so im gonna spam moonlight
other options i'd consider are maybe mega medicham, mega gallade, or perhaps aegislash
hmm i havent got all my shinies ready or recruted much lol
u could also use lycanroc like bwahacough, i think it learns CC
figuring out what move to replace protect for chomp for choice scarf
Dragon Claw
EQ
Rock Slide
Protect (replace)
poison jab
will c what i can do lol
aura sphere clangorous scales clangorous soul flash canon sitrus berry 😀
poison jab?
now we're cooking, get a fake out on there to guarantee setup
i already have sneaseler
does mega glimm earth power guarantee a KO on arch
🤷♂️
arch bulky or not?
150 sp attack + adaptability
surely they're making arch specially bulky to compensate for no AV
how about mega floette
Glimm does damage with rock and poison moves
i think it's usually calm mind, dazzling gleam, moonblast, protect
Earth power isn’t gonna be all that powerful
power gem doesnt do shit to arch tho
im probably losing no matter what lol most ppl have actually played pokemon battles b4 i havent
i'd honestly say mega gallade is your best option
all the other options are too slow or don't do enough
What are you looking for?
is there a reason we can't just use CC sneasler
because chomp likes to eq
There’s this thing called, stomping tantrum
does nothing into arch
Earthquake also does nothing into arch by that standard
mega lopunny is another option
conkeldurr also bonks arch
Eq and stomping tantrum are the effectively same BP because of the spread reduction
U want something that Hits special
i just dont like losing to arch lol
but also i should have one special mon right?
Cm floette, Glimm does ok damage to it
What Team are u playing?
Wha?
ideally you want 2 special, 2 support and 2 physical
oooo
i like incin and ttar and chomp, theyre my fav pokemons
i won again and error
pretty much any fire type or fighting type bonks archaludon
hawlucha, charizard, etc
Okey ur playing Sand i see
it's on sand
Ye Sand most of the time has only phy guy
Mega delphox would be ur guy
oh well the game says i won 4 ranked battles guess it counted
Levi near chomp has good syngergy
still no freezes on blzard lmao
who is levi?
Did they reduce it too?
Levitate
still 10%
Thanks only got freezed 1 time and didnt last more then 1 turn lol
shin_juli has given 1 Gen Rep to dubiousdelphine
So if u have it it would work vell in ur Sand team
Covers ur weakness for example fighting and Grass and could be ur second mega beside ttr
ill see if i have a shiny one somewhere
Gotta be from za for the stone ^^
i mean you could pull one from ZA to get the stone and then just use the stone with your shiny thats not from ZA right
only one i have is from ZA
In a ranked battle I had this evening, my Sneasler used Fake Out into a Mega Charizard Y, but it didn't flinch. I have no idea why this happened.
i mean SV
blocked and reported
Ye
wait can u save battle videos?
"omg i can't wait to play champions now that the bugs were fixed thanks for listeninf to us!" Champions after patch:
nah it was a 30 second clip
i keep getting u confused with pocket poof because his name is helmeted hoppip
if you hold the screenshot button on switch it saves the last 30s as a clip
no full replays
ah, i meant like the good ol videos like they used to let u save lol
Nah you can't
There's no battle recorder that kinda sucks
It would be super helpful in a competitive game specially i know people who could record battles from regionals to review them later on
i was like why did flower trick crit then i was like ooooh it does that XD
Oh shit didnt know that
oh wait no throat spray so clangorous soul on kommo-o kinda bad
Ye many games got it kinda sad and big tbh
i saw the top item for drama includes frosslassite, is this any good
Ye but could play body press and left overs Set
Its pretty good
meme already has that on corv i assume
oh i see hawlucha
Frostlass being the best screen setter for snow or blanace Team makes ir very good
Plus can spamm billzard
So it can be Played in many teams so that why its soo good
no but how does a frosslassite help drampa lol
With screens
does it boost its ice moves?
no i mean on the stats screen the mega frosslass stone is 2nd most used on drampa lol
Ah drampa really?
probably kids who don't know any better
lol oh that makes sense
Ye that wrong lol becquse 85% makes no sense
should like 95%
That means almosz every game u face 1 guy lol 
Right
that's cool they have the item usage stats now though
oh lmao
Does mega gyra have levitate?
no mold breaker
oh thier 1hko move of choice was fissue so i just baited out with levitate rotom
the 1hko mon died before it do much havoc
Does armour tail stop whimsi prankster?
It does if it’s using a status move on you.
But it won’t stop it from using Tailwind.
rip
How fast is mega fross?
120 iirc
Is the fast unboosted mon in the format mega aerodactyl?
Mega Zam! :D.
I think I just bullied someone's poor Corviknight with Aegislash
Did you wall it
Just completely blanked it
It can only use U turn, this is down to our last mons btw
You're here!
Aegislash looks fun
