#competitive_discussion

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red willow
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Is anything realistically outspeeding scarfed up basc in rain?

foggy lodge
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I was addicted to rocky helmet pelipper

cyan smelt
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Unburden sneasler

red willow
rustic mountain
red willow
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Swift swim

dense latch
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they have to come out at some point didnt they show some of the “removed” items in trailers and shit

foggy lodge
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Scarf + swift swim is unnecesary

rustic mountain
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idt even sneasler gets there w/ unburden, depends on speed investment

daring jungle
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I just lost a battle because of quick claw proc

dense latch
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you do one or the other usually

daring jungle
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And its like the 3rd time now

red willow
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Am I really throwing the ghost boosting item on this mf

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For a deadlier last rites

rustic mountain
lost sun
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just realised I've been using supreme overlord gambit

dense latch
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i think fede campo said this but what sucks is that since there’s so many good items removed shit like quick claw and bright powder get more use and it gets annoying

rustic mountain
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there were tera mechanics w/ megas in the 1st trailer we didnt get that, they didnt remove tera so to speak its just not part of it atm

lost sun
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lowkey cooked for me tho it won a 1v3 yesterday and a 2v4 just now with sylveon

cyan smelt
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At least it's not pressure gambit

foggy lodge
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I don't even know why these items are in the game

dense latch
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the images and items are at least somewhere in the code im just delusional 😭

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i miss my lorb

dull ibex
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Whats a good last two for Zard Venu Whim and Chomp?

foggy lodge
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Its a competitive dedicated game why are the most RNGsus items here

lost sun
polar canyon
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At least it's the one opportunity for type items to get a lot more use

cyan smelt
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I love sucker punch, most clicked move

daring jungle
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Does rotom wash have levitate?

polar canyon
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Yes all do

cyan smelt
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Yes

dense latch
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we’re stuck with fucking white herb for intim counterplay 😭 thought i’d never see that after swsh

polar canyon
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Even fan

daring jungle
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K, inmight be in a spot of trouble then

sudden remnant
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if any pf you are using mega gengar sinistcha arbok im sorry for what i just did to you

rustic mountain
dense latch
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but i’m having fun something about the limitations makes things a bit interesting too

foggy lodge
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like i get that banning some items can allow for more obscure items to see usage and also artificially nerfs some mons like Archaludon or Basculegion because they lose some of their most common items but you can only get rid of so many items until it does hurt the creativity

sudden remnant
indigo coral
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Wait. Mega Hawlucha gets both No Guard and Entrainment in Champions. Guillotine strats are real!

dense latch
rustic mountain
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now every1 has to see the light and run sitrus incin just like me Kawhismile

polar canyon
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Can't believe they didn't add my favorite item destiny knot

rustic mountain
polar canyon
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Dont wanna run incin bc im running volc

rustic mountain
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the same goes for the other things as well

sudden remnant
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im not running a fire type at all

cyan smelt
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run both, some people did in reg h

polar canyon
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Guess I can

dense latch
foggy lodge
rustic mountain
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u gta give new ppl time to understand the pure basics (if ur choosing the route they are) b4 giving them things that add more nuance and complexity. otherwise its the old approach oh hey we r gna throw u into the fire, gl

polar canyon
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I just don't want to be turbo weak to pelipper

dense latch
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i kinda wanna try floette too that thing looks insane

rustic mountain
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yea

sudden remnant
rustic mountain
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floette the mega imma go to if dnite feels mid

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cuz it looks very strong

dense latch
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i feel like im in gen 6 with chomp + scarf gardy lol

rustic mountain
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playing scarf rotom is so funny

dense latch
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eq dazzling gleam spam boommmmm

foggy lodge
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lowkey mega Dnite is the best dnite rn not because its actually super good just because there are no good items for dnite lmao

sudden remnant
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i ran into a mega garde earlier and thank god i have a ghost move on my team

cyan smelt
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scarf rotom is lowkey cooking

polar canyon
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Ttar feels mid to play against I can't imagine it feels any better to use

foggy lodge
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No choice band no loaded dice no assault vest

dense latch
foggy lodge
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hell yeah

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SHARP BEAK HURRICANE RAAAAAA

rustic mountain
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im doin sp dnite w/ draco hurricane and thunder

polar canyon
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Silk scarf dd espeed

winter fox
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What is a good Mega Meganium team to use in doubles?

lost sun
torpid hearth
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Are there bots in this game or something

rustic mountain
sudden remnant
lost sun
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do we know if mega meganium does 100% fire damage in the rain

rustic mountain
lean storm
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Does anyone have any mega crab teams

polar canyon
foggy lodge
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Man my hot take maybe not a real hot take

rustic mountain
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first handful of games r bots imo

foggy lodge
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Archaludon sucks so much rn lmao it feels so bad

sudden remnant
dense latch
rustic mountain
lost sun
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why does tatora have a giant ass forehead

lean storm
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I just got destroyed by a mega crab team, he genuinely looks super fun

foggy lodge
sudden remnant
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mega meganium will cause problems for mawile when mawile gets added cuz mawile isnt safe in the rain anymore

cyan smelt
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i have not seen a single dozo, is that because it's washed

dense latch
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it’s because it’s not allowed

foggy lodge
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its because dozo is not in the game lol

torpid hearth
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Bozo is washed

lost sun
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no it's because it's not in the game

rustic mountain
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hahahahhaha

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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but they showed it in the trailer wth

dense latch
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hopefully it stays that way

lost sun
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fr

polar canyon
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We're already seeing them nerf stuff like removing knock from incin, body press from archa, unseen fist nerf, I wonder if they'll nerf dondozo commander

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Especially now that there's mega tatsugiri

lost sun
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body press was such an unwanted nerf

rustic mountain
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points to the sign that the trailers were never gna b a pure reflection of whats allowed day 1

dense latch
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dondozo now doesnt like how tatsugiri tastes, commander is an omnidrop

lost sun
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no AV or powerherb was enough for arch

cyan smelt
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i hope this doesn't mean that zama loses body press

dense latch
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that would be dumb

rustic mountain
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i dont see why theyd do that

polar canyon
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I could see dondozo being changed to +1 to compensate for mega giri

rustic mountain
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arch needed body press taken away, zama doesnt

foggy lodge
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also i think its probable that mons can learn new moves over the course of updates and regulations

polar canyon
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Zama needs body press to be worthwhile

foggy lodge
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Maybe incin gets knock off back in the future who knows

lost sun
dense latch
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zama is fine as is it was so ass in swsh without bp

polar canyon
rustic mountain
cyan smelt
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so since IVs don't exist in champions i don't need to bother with hyper training?

sudden remnant
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i cant wait fir dynamax formats i wanna run king von herself Zacian

rustic mountain
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the best change tho? unseen fist bein 1/4 damage thru protect LETSGO

dense latch
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the balance changes were all great

tiny karmaBOT
dense latch
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tho i dont get why salt cure got a nerf lol

lost sun
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oh it gets aura sphere anyway so ig if u want fighting coverage just use that

sudden remnant
rustic mountain
polar canyon
rustic mountain
lost sun
dense latch
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is it really a nerf for those two

sudden remnant
polar canyon
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It has unseen fist with a different name but unseen fist got nerfed

dense latch
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idk if they would’ve given them the abilities if unseen fist wasnt nerfed

torpid hearth
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Yeah i noticed that

sudden remnant
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fun fact umbreon foul play guaranteed ohko mega golurk

rustic mountain
polar canyon
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It also doesn't have sand rush so that's another reason

lost sun
sudden remnant
rustic mountain
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umbreons cool

sudden remnant
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umbreon is a very good moon cat

sudden remnant
lost sun
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ye the eeveelutions can be good

rustic mountain
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umbreon usually better in higher power formats tho

dense latch
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i remember that one reg g korai team

lost sun
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my sylveon hyperbeam did 98% to a primarina

rustic mountain
sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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gambit is absolutely cracked i've found

dense latch
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the hyper beam animation is so cool

foggy lodge
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umbreon is good but its flipping burgers rn

polar canyon
rustic mountain
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it didnt do that well in sv but it had some results in swsh and prior formats b4 i played

polar canyon
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I use the fairy 20% item

lost sun
lost sun
sudden remnant
rustic mountain
foggy lodge
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umbreon survived attacks cool it doesn't mean its not bad

lost sun
rustic mountain
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im considering putting it on my team

polar canyon
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Ohkoing archa with sylveon is such a game changer

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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using gambit in this reg has made me like vgc again, it's just so fun koing resists

lost sun
sudden remnant
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and staying alive micheal jackson style with moonlight especially with all the zard ys running around

cyan smelt
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everyone needs a good dark type on their team

lost sun
polar canyon
sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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sableye is very annoying

lost sun
polar canyon
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Sableye is the funniest pokemon ever

rustic mountain
cyan smelt
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sableye is THE troll pokemon

rustic mountain
polar canyon
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Running wisp quash encore an rain dance on it

rustic mountain
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ew

dense latch
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my favorite bee gees song

billie jean

polar canyon
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I know right

sudden remnant
polar canyon
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Yeah

cyan smelt
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why not knock off

sudden remnant
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gross

lean storm
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I genuinely don't know what to run on golurk

rustic mountain
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pro tip: dont

sudden remnant
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just dont run it

polar canyon
lean storm
polar canyon
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Rain dance is there because it helps mega starmie and negates zard y

rustic mountain
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i mean u can but ur gna have a tough time dude

lean storm
sudden remnant
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it dies to any dark type with foul play just warning you

daring jungle
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Why is heat wave 95% accurate

cyan smelt
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wait, is memento whimsicott cooking or am i burning down the kitchen

lean storm
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Thinking of swapping to crab

daring jungle
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It keeps missing when i need it to hit the most

lean storm
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For a TR mega

polar canyon
rustic mountain
sudden remnant
foggy lodge
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@dense latch do you have a floette i can borrow LOL

lean storm
dense latch
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because a 90 bp move that can hit both mons with no drawbacks and can be boosted by weather would be really really good

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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send it here tho

dense latch
lean storm
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My nicknames are certainly something

polar canyon
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I'm surprised I only saw other starmies like once or twice this guy is so good

lost sun
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Charlie lurk 🙏

dense latch
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i have to use the shitty nicknames i gave my mons back in sword and shield

polar canyon
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Mine are all just food when I nickname them

foggy lodge
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im trying mega starmie rn

polar canyon
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Rocking mustard the volcarona from violet

foggy lodge
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Rain without Arch

lost sun
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would charizard z remain a top mega all the way until restricted formats

solid frigate
polar canyon
lean storm
sudden remnant
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i wanna run mega zard but i dont wanna use venusaur

rustic mountain
# lean storm My nicknames are certainly something

mostly seems fine, id say get stab ghost on golurk, snarl over tri atk on hydreigon, and flamethrower or weather ball over clear smog for torkoal. steel resist on clefairy prolly better then sash imo

lost sun
solid frigate
lean storm
dense latch
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hatt without psychic terrain is a choice

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kinda flipping burgers rn

cyan smelt
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anyone seen a mega meowstic yet

polar canyon
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I have

rustic mountain
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overall not a bad hard tr team, i think the golurk mega being changed would make ur team better but i think u can make it work potentially

solid frigate
lean storm
dense latch
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yea ik

polar canyon
dense latch
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i mean it’s not a great pick now that they’re all gone

rustic mountain
lean storm
solid frigate
dense latch
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also champions is running surprisingly well on my handheld switch oled

lean storm
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Also, triple fire stab on tork?

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That's something

rustic mountain
polar canyon
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It's running surprisingly unwell on docked switch 1 base

solid frigate
rustic mountain
dense latch
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i want a switch 2 so bad but they’re 600 bucks here

rustic mountain
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oof

foggy lodge
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There's no real thing to use clear smog into

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Maybe calm mind floette

polar canyon
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If only bulk up corv wasn't a steel type

solid frigate
rustic mountain
lean storm
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I saw a giraffe incin alolatales crab team and I wanted to use it soo bad

rustic mountain
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clear smog seems like y would u click unless u somehow let em hit +6

polar canyon
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I like how short for crabominable now is just crab

solid frigate
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I don’t think I saw a set up mon besides Gambit ngl

polar canyon
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Maybe we'd see more setup if we had amoonguss?

rustic mountain
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yall forget, set up was easier wen u could click ur get out of jail free button (tera)

solid frigate
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Hopefully

Sini and Venu are the only good grass types we have rn

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I think I missed one but ehhhhh

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And no it’s not Meow

polar canyon
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Did you

sudden remnant
rustic mountain
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well maybe not rotom mow but im using it so bias

polar canyon
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Oh yeah

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Whims

solid frigate
lean storm
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I'm telling yall

foggy lodge
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im running magnet archaludon bruh this is not serious LMAO

lean storm
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You don't know how bad I wanna use the crab

foggy lodge
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oh wait this team looks interesting

sudden remnant
rustic mountain
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looks like a good team

daring jungle
rustic mountain
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idk bout lopunny tho

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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if lopunny was basc id b like wow good comp

cyan smelt
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should i just give whims a mental herb

lean storm
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@rustic mountain what if instead of golurk and toek, I do crab and alolatales

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That way I have more speed control and a more prominent TR user

foggy lodge
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Are there any switf swim users outside of basc

solid frigate
# foggy lodge

It’s basically similar to my idea but with Poli and Mega Lopunny

polar canyon
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I haven't seen crabominable at all yet

rustic mountain
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whose toek

red willow
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Tailwind or protect as last move for mega dnite

lean storm
rustic mountain
polar canyon
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I haven't seen a mega crabominable since that horrible quest in za

lean storm
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Typo

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
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thats like the set up tr sweeper

lean storm
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Maybe I just swap lurk for crab

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But crab without screens or snow is

solid frigate
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If you play Hard TR you probably should commit to play Torkoal anyway

lean storm
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Just not it

rustic mountain
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i think wat ur realizing (hopefully) is maybe both parts cant coexist and ur prolly gna have to make a new core for crabominable

polar canyon
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It's refreshing being able to click a super effective move and know it'll stay super effective

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The tyranitar is not a flying type

sudden remnant
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would i be trolling running a leafeon

lean storm
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That's what I expected tbh, the question is what other moms do I put on this proposed crab team

solid frigate
# lean storm Yeah probably

There are two snow setters and one of them is like bad (Abomasnow) and one is too fast for liking(Ninetales)

polar canyon
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There's also mega froslass but that takes your mega slot

lean storm
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So the person who was running alolatales TR was just on crack

solid frigate
lean storm
polar canyon
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Is glalie in

lean storm
polar canyon
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Maybe I should try mega glalie explosion

solid frigate
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Don’t think it’s that useful here

polar canyon
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What's the vision

solid frigate
sudden remnant
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yes

polar canyon
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Eh

solid frigate
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Literally the exact thing she said

sudden remnant
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whatever cant get hit by the solar blade probably wont like heat wave

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assuming the heat wave doesnt miss of course

polar canyon
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How about incineroar

sudden remnant
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what about it

polar canyon
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Pretty sure its comfortable taking either

sudden remnant
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umbreon leafeon charizard manectric chat what we feeling for the last 2 slots

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whim probably for priority sunny day for weather wars

dense latch
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man i missed swsh’s ev reset method lol

polar canyon
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Why manectric

sudden remnant
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lightning rod

lean storm
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I can swap Arcanine for incin lowk

dense latch
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clear start mochis or whatever are called are so rate

sudden remnant
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zard does not wanna see an electric move

polar canyon
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Raichu?

sudden remnant
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i have a raichu yeah

polar canyon
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What's using electric moves besides archaludon

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Rotom?

foggy lodge
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i found noah gardner on ladder apparently lol

polar canyon
sudden remnant
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how do we feel about this

dull ibex
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maybe I do like rain over sun

solid frigate
dull ibex
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it feels nerfed but still strong?

solid frigate
spiral zealot
cyan smelt
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i wish i could spectate some matches, sometimes it feels stressful playing

polar canyon
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You could play awesome thunder drampa

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Why'd the give it that man

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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is drampa actually any good or is it just a meme

polar canyon
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Drampa had potential

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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i mean it's a nightmare for my gambit

solid frigate
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How

lean storm
cyan smelt
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flamethrower

dull ibex
polar canyon
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It could have literally anything else but it looks like its riding thunderclouds so its drizzle

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Pelipper but requires your mega slot

dull ibex
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dnite is there to cover for matchups im especially bad into with arch

solid frigate
solid frigate
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Fighting types

dull ibex
polar canyon
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Doesn't pelipper handle sealer

solid frigate
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Rather having a backup option than only one option here

red willow
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When they bring 3 fighting types to kill arch but you leave it at home and bring rage powder sinistcha

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Ggs

solid frigate
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Nah Sneasler could take on Sini

polar canyon
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With rng

red willow
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Luckily

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It was not a sneasler lol

solid frigate
red willow
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I got crited twice in a row in the m dnite mirror and lost 2 mons then sinistcha and pelipper swept lol

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Turns out 100 percent accurate hurricane is p dec against fighting moms even off a peli

cyan smelt
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Switching from coaching sneasler to cc feels so much better, ty to aereon

red willow
cyan smelt
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And ttar and chunk arch

red willow
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Fosho

cyan smelt
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And delete incin

lean storm
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I swear I feel like I'm just horrible

solar fiber
lean storm
solar fiber
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I already got the Golurk/Oranguru/Torkoal shell but my brain flops after that

lean storm
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It can work but no guarantees

red willow
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I see why sinistcha is preferrable in rain now

solar fiber
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Are you using Poltergeist much for Golurk

red willow
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I just lived a flare blitz lmao

lean storm
red willow
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Things actually pretty bulky with the right investments

craggy dagger
solar fiber
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Nerfed Unseen Fist doesn't feel worth it so far

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Even Clear Body woulda been better

red willow
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Yeah like if you are hitting for double not very effective dmg

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Is it rlly worth lol

solar fiber
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And tough luck when you get Intimidated cause you can't hold amulet

red willow
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Fosho

solar fiber
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Or even White Herb since Champions is so limited

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I did forget Torkoal learns Clear Smog I'm stealin that maybe it'll help

red willow
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Haze off of Prima has saved my skin several times lol

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Got triple snarled

solar fiber
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Only problem for me is that I'm on a sun team so a water type fits in awkwardly

red willow
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Ah fer sure

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I think dnite gets haze too maybe?

solar fiber
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Might try out Dragonite

red willow
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Or maybe Im trippin

solar fiber
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Yeah

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Somethin else I wanna try is psych up golurk

lean storm
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I don't know what to use

red willow
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Interesting

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Im having fun with this rain team I just cooked up

lean storm
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Ykw

red willow
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Sinistcha is the truth

solar fiber
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Oranguru Mega Golurk made me think bout trying Oranguru Mega Drampa

lean storm
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I'm just gonna sue my rain team with mega floette and call it a day

solar fiber
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Switching over to the dark side and becoming a rain player

red willow
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Last respects is about to ruin oppos day lmao

lean storm
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Thoughts?

solar fiber
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Mega Sol is sick

red willow
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I like dnite as one of the rain megas personally

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Hurricane REALLY hurts

lean storm
red willow
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Modest max sp attack and speed for now since multiscale lets you tank a couple hits generally

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Thunder Hurricane Draco Meteor Protect

lean storm
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Mk mk

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And inner focus prior right

red willow
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Generally you are clicking mega on it asap imo

dull ibex
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What four moves should I run on meganium

red willow
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But ig its up to preference if you are seeing more flinch or burst

lean storm
dull ibex
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What EVs

lean storm
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Max hp max sp atk modest

dull ibex
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Sick the battle pass one is good to go

lean storm
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I'm honestly scared for my rain team

neat kayak
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I tried champions
This is

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Rough.

red willow
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Lmao hurricane got oppos mon to 1 procced sash then confusion kod

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Hail rng

lean storm
wild knot
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Its busted

red willow
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See Floette is real cool and can blow stuff up

lean storm
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Oh my gosh wait

red willow
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But Im scared of our lord and savior sneasler lol

lost sun
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what's eternal floettes ability

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is it fairy aura

lean storm
lost sun
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and it's mega is also fairy aura?

lean storm
lost sun
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ah

lean storm
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Hurricane got buffed

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It no longer says that it has reduced accuracy in the sun

neat kayak
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Also why are the new mega abilities either
Really good
Or just useless

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Hrm yes let's give a bulky one time use mega an ability that only activates upon death
Victreebel got conned

wild knot
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Rip mega skarmory i had such high hopes for you

floral merlin
neat kayak
neat kayak
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Chandelure
Gets the same ability
Infiltrator

wild knot
sudden remnant
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has anyone seen any gardevoirs run aura sphere

floral merlin
neat kayak
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Didn't he get headlong?

floral merlin
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Mhm

neat kayak
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Headlong Golurk in a trick room could work
Phantom force as well

floral merlin
rustic mountain
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keep having connection issues damn

neat kayak
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Meanwhile Hawlucha gets no guard which
Sounds good on paper

rustic mountain
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winning my games but the experience is miserable

neat kayak
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But protect still cucks HJK so

wild knot
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It has stone edge

floral merlin
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Does champions show bigger models for alphas?

neat kayak
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Also mega Excadrill lost sand rush/force so
Is it even better

wild knot
floral merlin
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Aight, time to build mega shalpha golurk trick room team HemanHellYeah

dense latch
neat kayak
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This is basically how champions feels to me rn

wild knot
neat kayak
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Good work ILCA
Please stop making pokemon games

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And no I don't like it because of the graphics or performance or whatever
I dislike it because it's such a letdown lmao

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Also comp game and there ain't even life orb
What

waxen dock
foggy lodge
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This set is insane dude

ember jungle
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Bro, this is so stupid. Archaludon, pointed stones, roar and dragon tail… the frick kind of kill stall is this

cyan smelt
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Damn, that thing still gets last respects huh

dense latch
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cant wait to think i’ve won a game only for it to live on 1hp 💔

cyan smelt
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You'd think all these incins would learn to not use flare blitz when it puts them in sucker punch range

foggy lodge
cyan smelt
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I love knowing i'm going to live a flare blitz and setting up an sd

foggy lodge
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Im running scarf pelipper too

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I had archa but it lowkey sucked LOL

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So im just using sneasler now

cyan smelt
#

Arch and urshifu are washed

sudden remnant
#

this poor guy thought he was cooking with mega golurk vivillon gyarados and farigiraf

cyan smelt
#

Did u show him he was not

sudden remnant
#

i made them forfeit

cyan smelt
#

Did u ohko the mega golurk with foul play

sudden remnant
#

with mega gardevoir infernape zoroark and umbreon

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
#

I'm scared of mega golurk

sudden remnant
#

i havent had any problems with it

#

its so weak 😭

cyan smelt
#

I have gambit idk why i'm scared

#

Gambit is my goat

sudden remnant
#

shell bell arcanine is certainly a choice of all time

rustic mountain
#

all 6 games ive played today have been weather teams

#

gna try nd get ultra ball tn 9-1 so far

sudden remnant
#

my opponent has a fun team

#

unfortunately they have a shell bell on their arcanine so they burned the kitchen down

cyan smelt
#

Idk what my wl ratio is but i'm having fun so who cares

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And hopefully the suggested changes make my team better

rustic mountain
#

or no its been 7 games 4 rain 2 sun 1 sand

cyan smelt
#

Any mega scizor yet

rustic mountain
#

nope

sudden remnant
#

i do think im gonna lose anyways cuz i have umbreon vs a sylveon and a dnite im certain is about to mega evolve

cyan smelt
#

Mega scizor is a nightmare

sudden remnant
#

THUNDER PUNCH MEGA DNITE LMAO

rustic mountain
#

seems fine w/ my team but maybe. mega gengar did in fact mess me up i need a different lead mu vs it, all learning

sudden remnant
#

i like this guy he knows whats up

cyan smelt
#

I have not had problems with mega froslass, starmie or gengar really

rustic mountain
#

starmie and frosslass i havent seen yet

sudden remnant
#

my biggest struggles have been ttar and corviknight

cyan smelt
#

I saw it once on a rain team

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Starmie

rustic mountain
#

i think my most replaceable member rn is scarf rotom mow

cyan smelt
#

But that sounds fun

sudden remnant
#

rotom mow is peak tho

rustic mountain
#

its fine im not replacing it yet, just if i was itd b the first

#

its been solid almost everytime ive brought it

cyan smelt
#

Goodbye basculegion and ttar when you bring it

sudden remnant
#

chat i landed a focus miss

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and one shot an archaludon

rustic mountain
#

also mamo has been cool but i might replace that too

cyan smelt
#

U keep doing that

sudden remnant
#

i have landed more focus misses than ive missed

foggy lodge
#

I found a mega scizor today

cyan smelt
#

Hydreigon lowk goated

rustic mountain
sudden remnant
#

ew incineroar

cyan smelt
#

You know it was gearing up for the bug bite too

rustic mountain
#

if ur gna run scizor atleast do it on rain

foggy lodge
#

it was rain

rustic mountain
#

i dont see rain

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they played bad

foggy lodge
#

they had peli in the back

patent marten
#

Just went up against one of those mega hawlucha + one shot move teams, I froze them turn one and they forfeit lol

rustic mountain
#

lol

foggy lodge
#

they just led scizor and i was like "you know i can cts cheese them with scarf flamethrower

rustic mountain
#

ye

cyan smelt
#

Surprised they didn't instantly switch in peli

sudden remnant
#

i dont know why this politoed is encoring my umbreon im only clicking foul play anyways

cyan smelt
#

At least it doesn't know perish song

sudden remnant
#

honestly i wish it did

cyan smelt
#

What's on rain these days bc i feel like arch is a non entity

sudden remnant
#

they have mega dnite politoed versus my mega garde and umbreon

cyan smelt
#

Basc is still scary and so is palafin

sudden remnant
#

i won with a single hypervoice LMAO

cyan smelt
#

Mega gard hyper voice hits hard

sudden remnant
#

it truly does

cyan smelt
#

Too bad mega gard dies to one sucker punch

patent marten
#

Hey is ultra ball tier considered decent? I have no gauge of what the max rank is lol

cyan smelt
#

You're nearly there, master ball is the highest rank

sudden remnant
patent marten
cyan smelt
patent marten
#

I’m ultra rank 4 rn so I’m still ways away but still

cyan smelt
#

That's still good!

sudden remnant
#

can we get a counter of how many times i land focus miss

#

i landed another one one shotting another archaludon

cyan smelt
#

I think it's at 5 now

sudden remnant
#

6

#

ive landed 6 and missed 2

cyan smelt
#

Archaludons hate this one trick

sudden remnant
#

they do lmao

#

why did this dnite click espeed and not hurricane on my infernape

cyan smelt
#

Why does a mega dnite have espeed

sudden remnant
#

i think they dont have it cuz they just ice beamed my umbreon LMAO

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hurricane i mean

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
#

Mega dnites hate when gambit sucker punches them

sudden remnant
#

bro is mega dnite just trash?? cuz its getting walled by an infernape umbreon

cyan smelt
#

I could probably go the full kowtow cleave from now on

#

Where did meme go, didn't she want to learn vgc

sudden remnant
#

finally it kills my infernape and then dies to foul play

#

i think dnite just sucks ass

cyan smelt
#

I think it was better when it was an espeed bot next to chien pao

sudden remnant
#

for sure

#

and this corviknight is dead

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helping hand boosted mega gardevoir mystical fire

cyan smelt
#

How fast is mega gard

tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
#

base 100

cyan smelt
#

65 base def yikes

sudden remnant
#

worth it for all that fire power tbh

tiny karmaBOT
cyan smelt
#

This looks slightly better

south pumice
#

Mmm I’m having lots of fun with a rain team. Anyone know of a second decent rain setter?

sudden remnant
#

garde has better special defense

south pumice
#

Pelipper

cyan smelt
#

Generally teams only have one because of role overlap

south pumice
cyan smelt
#

Hmmmm left field idea, why not kommo-o, resists rock slide and knock off and has aura sphere for excadrill and ttar

sudden remnant
#

this guy has torkoal eruption and orangaru instruct

#

i respect him fr

cyan smelt
#

You'd just need to watch out for the primarina that these teams sometimes have

south pumice
#

I was running gengar for prima

cyan smelt
#

Sounds solid enough

#

Also you'd definitely need an answer to corviknight

south pumice
#

Archi has been quite good against corviknight

cyan smelt
#

Yeah i can imagine it wouldn't like electro shot

south pumice
#

Wait I got a corviknight

#

Ahahahha it got one shot

sudden remnant
#

did this guys kingambit just not have sucker punch????

cyan smelt
#

What is going on day 1 of champions lmao

sudden remnant
#

it died to a garde aura sphere

#

i let it get to +4 and it didnt sucker punch me

cyan smelt
#

Mega garde seems clutch for you

sudden remnant
#

and this guy is dumb

#

he thought protecting his hydrapple would save his mega golurk

cyan smelt
#

What moves does mega gallade usually run

sudden remnant
#

umbreon ohkod it again

cyan smelt
#

Does it get sacred sword

sudden remnant
#

yes

#

i wish i could chat this guy and tell him to give gambit sucker punch

cyan smelt
#

Ok so i'm gonna have to 1-2 punch with the sucker punch dire claw combo when i see it

sudden remnant
#

i literally let it get to +4 attack and everything

#

this guy has both rain setters

cyan smelt
#

Honestly dire claw + sucker punch has such good synergy, sneasler and gambit have great synergy

sudden remnant
#

im very confused

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focus miss number 7

#

another dead bridge

median ibex
sudden remnant
#

yes

median ibex
#

I see. Oof

sudden remnant
#

i started a counter of how many focus misses ive landed

#

im at 7 lands and 2 misses

#

they forfeit LMAO

median ibex
#

Accuracy is very hard to increase in Pokemon

sudden remnant
#

i havent increased it

#

im raw dogging focus miss on my zoroark-H

median ibex
#

Because there isn’t a reliable way to increase it yet

sudden remnant
#

it’s working

hollow latch
sudden remnant
#

lmao

#

this guy has 3 dragons

median ibex
#

Oh does gravity increase accuracy

sudden remnant
#

my gardevoir is gonna have fun

hollow latch
shadow wind
#

Jeez laddering takes years in this game

#

13 ranks instead of 10

median ibex
#

I see. Well i still don’t know how to ask others for private battles yet.

#

So if I am doing this in the wrong place please tell me.

shadow wind
#

14-1 and only ultra ball tier 4

sudden remnant
#

8 lands and 3 misses and another dead bridge

south pumice
median ibex
#

Anyone up for a battle?

south pumice
#

Sure I need to compete a quest for a private battle anyways

south pumice
#

You wanna make a room or want me to?

median ibex
#

I’ll do it

#

Single or double

shadow wind
#

Clearly I’ve had some consecutive wins

south pumice
hollow latch
cyan smelt
#

Arch is a pale imitation of its former self, lefties arch doesn't have the same ring as av arch but if i said i'm sad i'd be lying because that thing gave me hell

hollow latch
#

OH i am late

hollow latch
#

And no vestGengarSad

cyan smelt
south pumice
#

I guess I can run leftovers and protect

median ibex
cyan smelt
#

They need ultra necrozma theme and volo's theme in champions stat

median ibex
#

Did I do this correctly

hollow latch
#

Oh gonna join too

daring jungle
#

I just made it to ultra 4

south pumice
cyan smelt
hollow latch
shadow wind
#

I’m ultra 3 now but just got there

daring jungle
cyan smelt
#

conner would u think less of me if i said i'm using sneasler and gambit

shadow wind
#

Some of these rain teams are scary 😭

median ibex
#

Sure I am learning too

shadow wind
#

What wins games wins games

daring jungle
south pumice
#

Oo shiny flexes

hollow latch
cyan smelt
#

every other weather is scary for me as balance team with snow

daring jungle
hollow latch
#

Tyler man i love ur team

shadow wind
hollow latch
#

04756020

daring jungle
south pumice
#

I’m genuinely scared of the zorark for some reason

hollow latch
hollow latch
daring jungle
#

Mega aero + alcreamie??

south pumice
#

Rip aero

hollow latch
#

Uff

cyan smelt
#

oh yeah mugi how's aero going for you

daring jungle
median ibex
#

My plan was a earth quake plus 4

daring jungle
#

I dropped it for torkoal and toekoal is putting in work

hollow latch
#

Quick Claw is the most broken item

south pumice
#

Ofc quick claw

daring jungle
hollow latch
#

Everytim i face a guy he actives it every turn

south pumice
#

Na fr

daring jungle
#

Always ruins my game

median ibex
#

Tailwind really messed me up

hollow latch
#

Noice game tho

south pumice
#

Ggs

hollow latch
#

Gg

daring jungle
#

That poor alcreamie

#

Staring down 2 psuedos

south pumice
median ibex
#

I’m still trying to figure out good teams

hollow latch
#

Maybe that just me

daring jungle
#

I missed the beginning

south pumice
#

Wild it survived flash cannon +3

median ibex
#

I hold bright powder

daring jungle
#

Lol

hollow latch
south pumice
#

Ggs thanks for letting me play

median ibex
#

No problem I’m still learning on what to do

hollow latch
#

Glhf

south pumice
#

How fast is aero?

median ibex
#

Let me see

daring jungle
#

Unfortunately, another sun match.

hollow latch
#

Ye dont like the mirror

south pumice
#

Oh its base 130 for mega hella fast

daring jungle
#

Not really

median ibex
#

130 regular 150 mega

shadow wind
#

Mega aero is goated

south pumice
#

Wait base is 130 wild

hollow latch
#

Nooo

#

Needed the Hit

daring jungle
#

Lol

south pumice
#

Ew whims

median ibex
#

I don’t like how we are restricted to 3 or 4 Pokemon. I feel like the fun experience is when you use all of your Pokemon in battle

jade herald
#

Eternal Flower Floette lowkey feels like Flutter Mane in this janky-ahh metagame

hollow latch
#

Gg wp

median ibex
#

Can’t wait for terastalization dynamax and Z moves so we can use all of them in one battle

daring jungle
gentle cragBOT
daring jungle
#

Im surprised you didnt mega zard

hollow latch
#

Didnt wanna give the boost

daring jungle
#

Fair

median ibex
#

Though it’s fun to connect with people like this and test new things.

hollow latch
#

Man really needed the ice Wind to hit

daring jungle
#

The hoarark did trip me up tho

daring jungle
hollow latch
#

For the speed tie

jade herald
#

they’re definitely going to keep Shedinja out of formats with tera

daring jungle
#

The one time you need it to hit, it doesnt

median ibex
#

Is everyone done battling

daring jungle
#

If you are done, we can always open another one

hollow latch
#

I done

#

Wanna try play Sand

south pumice
#

Whoops…

hollow latch
#

But never played it befoe

south pumice
#

Eugh sand team

hollow latch
#

Glhf

median ibex
#

I want to get some new teams organized but I did send you dms so if any of you want to message me and we can practice another time

hollow latch
daring jungle
#

Id rather fight sand over rain

median ibex
#

But I’ll watch this fight

south pumice
#

Gl

cyan smelt
#

ok these sun teams are scary

daring jungle
#

Ya

#

Tis why i hate the mirror

south pumice
#

I hate prankster

cyan smelt
#

i gotta find some way to kill mega zard y

daring jungle
#

Rain plus water move

cyan smelt
#

i don't have rain

median ibex
#

Y? It’s 4 times weak to rock

hollow latch
cyan smelt
#

chomp takes heavy damage from cc

median ibex
#

A rock throw can KO it

hollow latch
#

Nooo

cyan smelt
#

fucking hell i ran out of time when choosing so it auto selected whims i am cooked

daring jungle
#

Oop

hollow latch
#

Noice

daring jungle
#

You cooked on a whim perchance?

south pumice
#

Ofc th flinch

cyan smelt
#

whims is no good against mega aggron bro

daring jungle
south pumice
#

Yeh I’m pretty much stuffed ngl

cyan smelt
#

protect incin wtf

south pumice
#

A second rain setter would of been nice

median ibex
#

I will have to go after this battle but feel free to DM me if you want to try out new teams as I am doing the same

hollow latch
#

Ufff

daring jungle
#

How long until they add in z moves dya reckon?

cyan smelt
#

fucking hell i am getting cooked by this mega aggron

#

why is every politoed running perish song now

daring jungle
#

I thought mega aggron was bad because of how slow it is

daring jungle
cyan smelt
#

it's not bad

south pumice
#

Double protect I dare you

#

Nvm

#

God that ttar was annoying

cyan smelt
#

all of a sudden this is hell and i've lost two in a row

hollow latch
#

Thought i could outspedd with dd and tail

south pumice
#

Rip

cyan smelt
#

i hate politoed and want to destroy it

sudden remnant
#

how mucb does incin take from a scizor superpower

south pumice
#

Wait I might win ngl

daring jungle
#

I think you do win

hollow latch
#

Gg

cyan smelt
#

why is everyone suddenly wolfe on ladder now

hollow latch
#

Should have atk

cyan smelt
#

lowkey about to run throat chop on something so i can shut that stupid toad up

daring jungle
#

Lol

sudden remnant
#

lmao

south pumice
cyan smelt
#

ok i need to calm down, evidently the team isn't working or something

#

or i'm just getting used to it

hollow latch
#

Maybe

#

If dont hit a crit

#

Gg wp

cyan smelt
#

every time i see rain i'm bringing a9 now

south pumice
#

I knew that sucker punch was coming

#

Ggs

daring jungle
#

Lol

median ibex
#

I have to go

chilly sluice
#

anyone wanna play doubles

hollow latch
#

Join us

daring jungle
#

@hollow latch, @south pumice, @chilly sluice i just opened one

#

1132 2104

chilly sluice
#

bet

foggy lodge
#

😨

#

can i play guys

sudden remnant
#

i will say idk if its my team not working or if its specifically this scizor not working

daring jungle
chilly sluice
#

oh i dont have a singles team ready yet

hollow latch
#

Join

#

Oh its Single PikaLmao

#

Fk

daring jungle
#

Oops

#

I thought i did double 🤣

#

Hol up, let me recreate

#

The game is auto on single for some reason

cyan smelt
#

ok now this maushold is irritating, it has encore

daring jungle
#

Aight, take 2

#

5246 3251

sudden remnant
#

why did this arcanine just ft my infernape

daring jungle
#

It is doubles this time

daring jungle
#

Great pick in infernape btw

sudden remnant
#

its doing okay

#

i expected more

#

im running fake out fire punch thunder punch and poison jab

daring jungle
#

Yeah, he aint the best mon for comp

#

The mirror again juli, really 🥲

#

@hollow latch?

hollow latch
#

Wanna try something diffrent but after that i will play rain

#

Or try sand

daring jungle
#

Oki

#

This is good practice anyway

red willow
#

I like that last respect was supposed to be that dumb ghost dogs signature move

daring jungle
#

Any tips and advice is welcome

red willow
#

But then bascu was just like naw man

cyan smelt
#

this rain team was tough but i positioned well

#

they had maushold, peli, basc and mega gengar

#

encore maus so i couldn't set up

sudden remnant
#

what battle music are yall using

daring jungle
#

Random

red willow
#

Gen 3 trainer battle

cyan smelt
#

random

sudden remnant
#

im using gen 5 trainer battle

cyan smelt
#

i don't think my team is bad, i just need practice using it

#

balance teams need a lot of pivoting

shadow wind
#

What’s the team

chilly sluice
#

5246 3251

#

pull up

cyan smelt
#

chomp, a9, sneasler, gambit, whims and kang

daring jungle
#

Is that specs typh

hollow latch
daring jungle
#

Hence why it outspeeds chomp

foggy lodge
#

scarf

shadow wind
#

So many wrong things were just said

foggy lodge
#

Specs is not in the game xd

daring jungle
#

Lol

hollow latch
daring jungle
#

I cant remember which one is which anyway

hollow latch
#

Gg

shadow wind
#

Yo maxi what kind of team are you running?

foggy lodge
#

Weathers lol

shadow wind
#

Valid

foggy lodge
#

I have a sun team and a rain team

shadow wind
#

Nice

#

They both seem incredibly strong right now

foggy lodge
hollow latch
#

Got wrong abilty on Drill ahh

shadow wind
#

I don’t even need to be able to read Spanish to know that says sleep powder on the Venu

daring jungle
shadow wind
#

You evil evil man

sudden remnant
#

chat do we think i could get away with 5 eeveelutions and a mega manectric

daring jungle
#

Possibly

foggy lodge
#

guess it quick

shadow wind
#

Haban

cyan smelt
#

ok i just auto-lose to this corv

foggy lodge
#

elite ball knowledge

shadow wind
#

My Hydreigon is holding one !

cyan smelt
#

it was a mistake replacing skeledirge

foggy lodge
#

im running sash basc in rain

shadow wind
#

I need bro living any kind of dragon attacks

daring jungle
#

Did not realise mega ttar reset sand

shadow wind
#

Clip of parental bond breaking !

#

In a bad way

cyan smelt
#

yeah i just auto-lose to this corv

hollow latch
daring jungle
#

Ya

#

I got cooked becayse of it

cyan smelt
#

i need a way to deal with rotom corv leads

foggy lodge
#

There's another one of a Blastoise healing a Milotic with water spout

shadow wind
#

He’s a big bug

#

We thought he was a turtle

daring jungle
#

Wut

#

How fast is mega ttar???

shadow wind
#

But he’s just a bug

hollow latch
foggy lodge
#

Conner when are we playing 1v1 on champions

daring jungle
shadow wind
cyan smelt
#

how do i deal with these damn sand teams? i keep losing to every other weather bro

hollow latch
#

Gg

daring jungle
#

Gg

shadow wind
#

After I hit Masterball that’s for sure

foggy lodge
#

okayokay

daring jungle
#

I want to face it again

hollow latch
#

Ok

daring jungle
#

I think i know how to best it

cyan smelt
#

i need to do something about these damn rotoms

shadow wind
#

My team was a vision I had last night so lowkey it’s fried

cyan smelt
#

maybe kang and sneasler lead?

daring jungle
#

Ive only seen r-wash so my answer is venu

hollow latch
daring jungle
#

Aight

cyan smelt
#

it doesn't take any skill to spam ID body press

#

i'll never get out of ultra ball 3

shadow wind
#

I’m away from my set up so I grabbed a pen and paper from the house I’m staying at and started cooking

foggy lodge
cyan smelt
#

another fucking sand team

foggy lodge
shadow wind
#

Real

daring jungle
#

Who is simpuw?

shadow wind
#

I felt ancient bro

#

Why does trace go across the field but imposter goes straight forward

daring jungle
#

Yes

shadow wind
#

Weird interactions

foggy lodge
#

This game is broken LOL

#

It needs a patch or something istg