competitive_discussion

[sudden remnant]

OH TRUE

WAIT

HES COOKING

[cyan smelt]

wait aura sphere archaludon wut

[sudden remnant]

yeah it gets aura sphere now

[cyan smelt]

it always did

[sudden remnant]

i mean it cant run body press so its gotta run something

[daring jungle]

Which gimmick will come next dya think? Zmoves, dynamax or tera (maybe gems as well)

[sudden remnant]

probably zmoves

i imagine theyll start them in order

[cyan smelt]

it just eqed its own archaludon

[sudden remnant]

what did you have on the field

and what pokemon did the eq

[cyan smelt]

mamoswine, i had gambit and kang

[sudden remnant]

yeah i understand the eq then

[cyan smelt]

time to nuke the arch with moonblast

[foggy lodge]

I got to master ball with this lets go

[cyan smelt]

ok i got outplayed by this team

[sudden remnant]

were you in pokeball 4 this morning and did you fight a team with meowscarada and umbreon

[foggy lodge]

idt so

[sudden remnant]

cuz i swear ive fought someone with that exact team

[foggy lodge]

Nah cuz I was in super ball already yesterday

[cyan smelt]

they led perfectly and i didn't lead well

oh great it's perish song politoed

[sudden remnant]

my favorite lead is manectric and zoroark disguised as meowscarada

[cyan smelt]

perish song is so obnoxious bro, they're just using wolfey's team

[sudden remnant]

my manectric has tbolt ft hypervoice and snarl do you think i should drop snarl for volt switch

[cyan smelt]

i need to figure out what to do against archaludon with aura sphere

[sudden remnant]

punch it harder

[foggy lodge]

yea

[sudden remnant]

kk thanks

[wild stream]

Plan for common, meta sets, not the rare ones

[cyan smelt]

oh well i'll learn from this loss, i have to assume when politoed and arch are together it's aura sphere

[hollow latch]

Sheesh almost got the same build

[wild stream]

at this point, plan to counter the favourites

[daring jungle]

My mega zard y is about to have a field day. I ran into a mono steel team

[cyan smelt]

i gotta absolutely nuke archaludon next time

a lot of this is just surprise factor

[hollow latch]

Ye arch is scary if not dealt fast

[cyan smelt]

unfortunately it gets aura sphere so i need to figure out what to do into it

yesssss dire claw + sucker punch kos charizard y

[carmine trench]

Any updates I should make, aside from gif Farig an item?

[sudden remnant]

why wouldnt it just be electro shot

[cyan smelt]

because i had gambit out

[sudden remnant]

so theres no AV so it would still
hurt no?

[cyan smelt]

it hurts a lot

[hollow latch]

Absolutly ot hurts

[cyan smelt]

i think i need something stronger than drain punch on kang

[sudden remnant]

if i have an archaludon next to a manectric and click electro shot and the manectric has lightning rod and the arch has stalwart it will ignore my manectrics lightning rod right

[cyan smelt]

yes

[sudden remnant]

is it a mega kanga

[cyan smelt]

you betcha

[sudden remnant]

drain punch should be fine

[cyan smelt]

all these incins are running sitrus bro

[hollow latch]

Tried some zoroak shenigans and i am lucky that i didnt meet a Single kang man

[sudden remnant]

im running zoroark 😄

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-dab-dab-me-up-super-monkey-ball-mr-boss-gif-11903531005687623995

[cyan smelt]

ok now i get a chance to use coaching sneasler next to mega kang

[hollow latch]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-10142521848737863771

[sudden remnant]

LOL

[hollow latch]

Show me ur build^^

[daring jungle]

Im an idiot. I ran into another sun team, lead vena and accidentally megad it

Forgetting it loses chlorophyll

[cyan smelt]

we learn from these mistakes

[ember jungle]

Did sneasler and lopbunny suddenly become the meta in singles?

[hollow latch]

Happens

[cyan smelt]

mega kang with coaching boost melts hp bars

fuuuuck drain punch missed

[hollow latch]

Sand?

[sudden remnant]

sash 2hp 32 spa 32 spe with bitter malice psychic detect and icy wind

[cyan smelt]

no muddy water

[wild stream]

what does the 2 hp survive

[hollow latch]

Defect my be a good addition

[sudden remnant]

theres no where else to put the 2 points on a sash mon

[cyan smelt]

mega kang is goated

[wild stream]

Makes sense

[cyan smelt]

should i try the nuclear option, parental bond boosted double edge?

[sudden remnant]

i mean why not

and then drain punch to offset the recoil

[daring jungle]

Im annoyed. I matched into someone who is afk

[cyan smelt]

idk why i didn't do that first

it koed from 69% hp

[hollow latch]

Same buil as me but i play willo for burn and his sign for damage reduce and the normal spread move

[cyan smelt]

good to know that sucker punch + dire claw kos mega zard y

[sudden remnant]

i have icy wind cuz i cant afford them being faster than my manectric

[daring jungle]

Im scared of running into this now

[sudden remnant]

and my meowscarada has the scarf but i might swap it with zoroarks sash idk yet

[lost sun]

love how lucky my opponent is
2 heatwave misses
2 hurricane confusions and 2 self hits cus of it

[cyan smelt]

ok now i'm looking forward to coaching sneasler with +3 gambit

kowtow cleave should KO arch

not quite

[daring jungle]

My god that was awful. I won a match i was pulling back cause the opponent was afk

[sudden remnant]

i think you might be fighting the Main Character

[cyan smelt]

archaludon is gone

[lost sun]

was down to an incin 1v1 and he won cus the 2 heatwave misses was on his incin

[sudden remnant]

lol

plot armor

[cyan smelt]

gambit FUCKING MELTS HP BARS

[sudden remnant]

i think kingambit might be your umbreon bro

[cyan smelt]

kingambit is my ace

[sudden remnant]

so yes

[cyan smelt]

coaching sneasler + gambit is unstoppable

[sudden remnant]

sucks i cant use my shiny raichu jack gave me

i mean i can i just have to immediately mega my manectric

[cyan smelt]

kingambit melted an incin's hp bar from like 70% health bro

with sucker punch 😭

[daring jungle]

Im not used to weather wars. I keep falling behind rain teams

[sudden remnant]

oh shi fast bunny

[sudden remnant]

run a whimsicott with sunny day

[cyan smelt]

run a drampa

[daring jungle]

It died

It was my lead

[cyan smelt]

can someone explain why runerigus and cofagrigus are in the game

[slate spindle]

If you ev train a Pokémon in a mainline game and then transfer it to Champions, does it keep its evs or does it get reset?

[daring jungle]

Keeps it

[sudden remnant]

oh 👨‍🦯

[sudden remnant]

it keeps them but remember you have an extra stat point in champions

[cyan smelt]

i love faking out ghost types so much

i live for ts

[daring jungle]

It was chomp and whims vs pel and meganium

[cyan smelt]

oh yeah i gotta watch out for meganium because it knows earth power and dazzling gleam and nasty stuff that gambit doesn't like

[slate spindle]

Thanks

[gentle crag]

adamcosmic has given 1 Gen Rep to naganohara_vexae

[sudden remnant]

the fastest way to increase friendship is to keep washing it in picnic right

[cyan smelt]

yes

[sudden remnant]

juli gave me a shiny eevee that will soon be a moon cat

[spring grove]

what would you change?

[sudden remnant]

why 2 snow setters

[cyan smelt]

i don't think people understand what mega kang does

i mean regular kang

[spring grove]

a9 is here for aurora veil tbh, dont know if there is another veil setter tbh

[sudden remnant]

pretty sure froslass itself gets aurora veil

[spring grove]

(except abom but yea hes not that good

[hollow latch]

Frolas can be used as an setter too

[spring grove]

ye but i wanted it to be an nuker

[hollow latch]

Ur nuker is mega delfox i would say

[sudden remnant]

how do i even get the delphoxite again?

[spring grove]

but than i would need to switch froslass

[spring grove]

just put delphox in the game, u get it gifted

[hollow latch]

I feel like u have to decide between ao9 or frolass

[sudden remnant]

cool

[hollow latch]

Has to be from za

[sudden remnant]

thats fine

[spring grove]

the thing is i dont have an snow setter if i need to mega evolve delphox

[hollow latch]

But that doesnt mean if can work

[spring grove]

(froslass my bad

[sudden remnant]

if you mega delphox ninetales would be the snow setter

[hollow latch]

That is why ao9 would be better in a more Balance Team focused on delphox

[spring grove]

who would i add if i remove froslass

i mean im down to do that, i just dont know who

[chrome knot]

who up with the most normal sinistcha spreads

[daring jungle]

Im starting to get annoyed. Im stuck in great ball tier 4. Ill win a game, then lose a game and just rinse and repeat

[sudden remnant]

happens

[carmine trench]

So I had an opponent skill swap Starmie on my Incineroar.

[spring grove]

who would you switch with froslass?

[cyan smelt]

vex ur right, gambit is my umbreon

he's come in clutch so much

[frozen flame]

Is indeedee in the game

[cyan smelt]

nope

[frozen flame]

How do u get the za mega stones

[cyan smelt]

vex i strongly believe everyone needs a good dark type on their team

[chilly sluice]

yo anyone have a sinistcha?

[frozen flame]

Is it through purchase only

[cyan smelt]

some are rewards i think

[spring grove]

you can get the starters if you add the starters from za to champions

[chilly sluice]

send za mons from home

[frozen flame]

Alr thanks

[gentle crag]

barewanderer has given 1 Gen Rep to simpuw

[daring jungle]

Does it only work for the kalos starters, or all mons who got a mega?

[lost sun]

252 hp 156 spdef+ rest into Def is what I used
this survives blizzard from mega froslass 100% idk what the equivalent is for champs

[chilly sluice]

just the starters and floette i think

[daring jungle]

Oki

Thanks

[chrome knot]

wow im smart i just slider spread that LOL

[lost sun]

the spdf was 132 so make sure it's that

132 as a stat not evs

[lost sun]

how do I look at my team and all the moves on 1 screen in champs

[sudden remnant]

you alone on that i quite like this new format

[cyan smelt]

I'm addicted to champions

[bronze quarry]

Can any snow team users help me out with some advice

[karmic temple]

Yeah I can

Set up snow and spam blizzard I hope that helps!

[sudden remnant]

lol

[lost sun]

pro moves

[bronze quarry]

Account based in-

Anyways

[sudden remnant]

say it

[cyan smelt]

I have seen so many mega froslass but no ice cream cone

[sudden remnant]

lucky you

i got blizzard spammed by froslass with the ice cream

[karmic temple]

I saw mega hawlucha entrainment vanilluxe sheer cold

[sudden remnant]

umbreon clutched that fight

[karmic temple]

Wanted to kms

[cyan smelt]

That sounds traumatic for both of you, i'm sorry

[daring jungle]

I saw this but with excadrill and fissure instead

But it was used on my char tho

[cyan smelt]

I have learnt to never underestimate mega scizor because bug bite hurts

[sudden remnant]

i won cuz umbre is just that guy or cat i should say

[lost sun]

how long till we see a perish trap video from Wolfe

[cyan smelt]

My new motto is, gambit melts hp bars, he will ko through resists he doesn't gaf

[sudden remnant]

the shiny veeveevee evolved

sending to champs rn

[cyan smelt]

Vex what tier r u

[sudden remnant]

i dont actually know lol

[sudden remnant]

today hopefully

[cyan smelt]

I might have played wolfe lmao

It was perish song with arch

[karmic temple]

Only mega gengar has shadow tag 😭

[wide lichen]

I just saw someone use Entertainment with M Hawlucha to pass No Guard onto mon with OH-KO moves

Didn't think that would work

[lost sun]

and it's a good mega

[cyan smelt]

Which mon was it because i am going to fake the hell out of that if i see it

[karmic temple]

No guard on vanilluxe or uhh golurk

[wide lichen]

They passed it onto Guilotine Gambit, but im sure it would work with any mon with fissure or sheer cold as well

[daring jungle]

I saw it on excadrill

[lost sun]

golurk already has no guard

[cyan smelt]

If excadrill has sash that's gonna suck

[daring jungle]

It did

[cyan smelt]

Does entrainment go through protect

[lost sun]

don't think so

[wide lichen]

Don't think it would no

[cyan smelt]

If i see that mega hawlucha trying that i'm going to nuke the partner

[sudden remnant]

im scared this guy is running mega floette

[daring jungle]

I think ive lost sk many times in a row, ive hit a bot

[cyan smelt]

I'm up to ultra ball tier, team seems to be going fine

Scrappy fake out works wonders

[daring jungle]

Wish i was that good. Heres me trying not to go back to pokeball tier

[cyan smelt]

You don't lose a ranking once you achieve a new one

[daring jungle]

Cool, so im just destined to be stuck in great ball 4.

[cyan smelt]

Figure out what you're losing to most often and how you can adjust your team to deal with it

[karmic temple]

You’ll get out of it dw just takes some adjustment

[cyan smelt]

It could be as simple as a moveset adjustment or using one different pokemon

[dense latch]

are you just starting out competitive? even if you’re not it’s a brand new format and it’s ok to take some time to get used to it

[cyan smelt]

Yeah don't beat yourself up if you're new, post your team here and get feedback, everyone is learning on the fly

[daring jungle]

Quite often, its the leads i lose on

[daring jungle]

Its still the same as i posted last night

[cyan smelt]

Take notes during games on which mons are giving you trouble

[daring jungle]

Its mostly positioning i feel. Especially when it comes to dnite and rain teams

Which i of course just ran into

[sudden remnant]

they didnt bring the mega floette

[cyan smelt]

You might need a strong fairy or ice type to deal with mega dnite

[sudden remnant]

im running play rough on meowscarada

[cyan smelt]

I've got moonblast on a9 but i can lowkey deal with it with gambit and kang

[sudden remnant]

this guy trolled

[cyan smelt]

You won the mind games, umbreon aura too strong

[sudden remnant]

he had incin sylveon mega dnite and i already forgot what the 4th mon was

[sudden remnant]

why didnt they bring the mega floette into my 2 dark types

[cyan smelt]

Probably because a lot of new people to vgc picking their favs

They don't understand what they do

[sudden remnant]

the mega dnite died instantly to my meowscarada LOL

[cyan smelt]

The amount of times i've been able to fake out mega froslass is staggering

[daring jungle]

This is what ive currently got:

I swapped flamethrower on zard, encor on whim and stealth rocks on chomp all for protect

[cyan smelt]

I think you should replace gyarados and maushold with incin and rotom wash

Or rotom heat

[daring jungle]

Yeah, i barely bring maushold. I dont feel like it fits the team, but im also not used to support mons

[cyan smelt]

Rotom is a great support in this format, it can wisp physical attackers

[daring jungle]

Gyrados has been useful because of intim qnd ice fang for dnite

[cyan smelt]

Or choice lock opposing pokemon

[sudden remnant]

why is this ninetales so weak it did 15 damage to my umbreon with dgleam

[cyan smelt]

You can trick a choice scarf onto mega froslass to lock it into aurora veil or lock incin into fake out

[daring jungle]

50% of the teams i see have dnite and most of em mega it

[cyan smelt]

Your team is lacking a strong fairy type

Waitttttt, have you considered mega aerodactyl?

[daring jungle]

No?

[sudden remnant]

my mega lopunny killed a mega garchomp instantly

this is way too easy

[cyan smelt]

It gets ice fang too and it's got an insane attack stat

[sudden remnant]

and 150 speed

[cyan smelt]

And you could do interesting things with tough claws

[sudden remnant]

mega aerodactyl is a fast boi

[cyan smelt]

Mega aerodactyl is a nuke

[daring jungle]

Isnt it a bad idea to run 3 megas, or do i drop mega vena?

[ember jungle]

Can you even run more than one on a team?

[cyan smelt]

Run venu for the chlorophyll boost

[sudden remnant]

im running 2 manectric and lopunny

[daring jungle]

2 hold it, but only one can

[ember jungle]

Yeah that’s what I thought, lol

[cyan smelt]

I haven't seen a mega aerodactyl but it could lowkey cook

[ember jungle]

Basically just depends what you are facing

[cyan smelt]

Especially if you're struggling with peli mega dnite

Rock slide em or ice fang the dnite

[sudden remnant]

im tempted to try it

[daring jungle]

And swap out maushold?

[cyan smelt]

Does basically the same thing as what you're using gyarados for

[lost sun]

can u?

[cyan smelt]

Yeah swap out maus, doesn't seem to be doing much for you

[cyan smelt]

Yes i had it happen to my a9

[daring jungle]

Does aero get intim?

[cyan smelt]

No, tough claws

[ember jungle]

I wish more niche items were available, lol

[lost sun]

so Ur mega froslass is an a9

[sudden remnant]

Kalos im on a 5 win streak

[cyan smelt]

Yeah but i'm saying mega froslass because it seems more common than a9

[cyan smelt]

So hype

[daring jungle]

So if aero does what gyra is doing, but i swap maus out, do i swap gyra out for something else?

[lost sun]

I don't think u can remove mega stones cus u can't knock them off

[cyan smelt]

Ohhhh right mb

But you could still lock incin into fake out

[ember jungle]

It does leave it open to sucker punch Gambits though; unsure how prevalent they are in doubles, but seen em in singles

[cyan smelt]

Trial gyarados and aerodactyl together, but keep in mind incin gets fake out

And parting shot

[daring jungle]

Yeah, i do know those

I am familiar with the vgc cat

Why cant they show the love the gave to incin and give it to infernape 😭

[cyan smelt]

All mons are created equal but some are more equal than others

[sudden remnant]

true

[daring jungle]

Gen 4 remakes shouldve had megas

This is stupid

[sudden remnant]

anyone joining the gc this weekend

sorry the “warm up challenge”

[red willow]

Man I sure am glad small medium AND large gourgheist are all legal

[cyan smelt]

Mega aerodactyl also outspeeds mega froslass if that's important to you

[daring jungle]

I havnt seen a single froslass

Ive only seen mega dnite

[cyan smelt]

Feels like it's all i see

[sudden remnant]

LUCKY YOU

[cyan smelt]

It makes me grateful i'm packing kang

[daring jungle]

Give me variety

[sudden remnant]

decisions decisions

[daring jungle]

Im done seeing mega dnite

[daring jungle]

Id take h-decidueye

[sudden remnant]

LOL

[spiral zealot]

I'm gonna at least participate

[sudden remnant]

same i already registered my team

[daring jungle]

Sane here

[sudden remnant]

i kinda want the mikyukyu

[torpid hearth]

Hmm thinking of trying out milotic

[cyan smelt]

I'm gonna participate it's gonna be chaos

[torpid hearth]

Sucks that there is no flame orb tho

[lost sun]

1 shotting people as they mega is funny

[sudden remnant]

competitive or marvel scale

[cyan smelt]

Do it it's like the only scald user

[torpid hearth]

Very good

That will help with the aggron shenanigans

[daring jungle]

Does mega aero outspeed mega dnite?

[cyan smelt]

Yes

[sudden remnant]

the walllll

[torpid hearth]

Exactly

[sudden remnant]

100% of the time mega aerodactyl is base 150

[torpid hearth]

Step 1 press body press. Step 2 win

[cyan smelt]

It outspeeds almost everything without tailwind or unburden

[daring jungle]

Does mega aero ohko mega dnite through multiscale?

[sudden remnant]

probably not

[cyan smelt]

Just do the old fake out + rock move

[sudden remnant]

im doing icy wind play rough or icy wind tbolt

[daring jungle]

Im adding incin over gyra and will see how it goes

Ill post the updated team shortly

[torpid hearth]

Huh samurott is pretty slow...

[daring jungle]

Has anyone hit lv 50 on the battle pass yet?

[sudden remnant]

i havent bought the premium pass havent decided if i want to or not

[torpid hearth]

I need to see if i have a hisuian samurott anywhere

[daring jungle]

Legends arceus?

[torpid hearth]

Maybe yeah

[sudden remnant]

100 okay

[sudden remnant]

should outspeed with another icy wind

i did in fact

[daring jungle]

Do i just take the ttar here?

[sudden remnant]

i would

[torpid hearth]

Ttar is fun

[sudden remnant]

how is sylveon slower than my umbreon lol

[sudden remnant]

oh

[cyan smelt]

I'm still puzzled as to how a9 outspeeds mega froslass

But maybe it's good that it's faster

[sudden remnant]

it was probably a speed tie you were timid it was probably modest

[cyan smelt]

People getting greedy with their megas smh

[daring jungle]

Do i run throat chop/darkest lariat or protect on incin

[lost sun]

darkest

[daring jungle]

Ive currently set it to parting shot, flare blitz, fake out

[sudden remnant]

my umbreon lives 3 bug buzz from volc a hypervoice from sylveon and 2 quick attacks feom sylveon

holy chonk

[cyan smelt]

Darkest lariat

What r u feeding that boi vex

[lost sun]

50 resist berries probably

[sudden remnant]

20 hp 14 defesne 33 special defense and calm

[daring jungle]

Whats the best nature?

[torpid hearth]

Depends on the mon

[cyan smelt]

Feeding it the tears and souls of mega dnites

[daring jungle]

For incin

[sudden remnant]

true

[torpid hearth]

Oh uh

[daring jungle]

Is it better for it to be speedier or bulkier?

[cyan smelt]

With no av you probably want sp def boosting

[daring jungle]

And drop spatk?

[cyan smelt]

Yes

[daring jungle]

Then invest evs into both defenses then?

Or do an even split and max out spd?

[cyan smelt]

You effectively gain stat points in def with intim

I'd invest more on special def with some attack and hp

[daring jungle]

Kinda like this?:

[sudden remnant]

try it and find out

[torpid hearth]

There is no point in running marvel scale on milotic right?

[sudden remnant]

its a good ability

[daring jungle]

For aerodactyl, which ability is best. Pressure, rock head or unnerve

[torpid hearth]

Yeah but no flame orb

I would either have to waste a turn burning my own mon or just hope i get lucky with status conditions

[daring jungle]

Now ive never seen an aerodactyl set so thoughts on this?:

[sudden remnant]

yo did they fix play roughs accuracy or smthn

i have yet to miss one

no they didnt

interesting

[daring jungle]

So thoughts?:

[lost sun]

I don't think stealth rocks is good in double

[daring jungle]

Really?

[sudden remnant]

it’s not very common

[whole ibex]

I recommend tailwind and Wide guard

[daring jungle]

Do i need 2 tailwind setters?

[lost sun]

whims has tailwind already just use wide guard

[daring jungle]

Oki

Going in with this team.

Ran into palafin, guardevoir, typhlision, dragonite, talonflame and starmie

With leads aero and whims vs typh and pal

And of course pal lands a crit flip turn on aero

[torpid hearth]

Oh shit did incin loose knock off?

[daring jungle]

Yup

[torpid hearth]

Damn

[daring jungle]

I just watched an azumarill use surf

[torpid hearth]

I saw a steelix using rock polish in trick room lmao

[daring jungle]

Lol

That is funny

[cyan smelt]

I saw azumarill use belly drum while burned then do no damage into skeledirge

[daring jungle]

🤣

[cyan smelt]

I love that fire croc

It 1v2 a garg and garchomp with coaching support from sneasler

[torpid hearth]

Oh i hate venuzard

This shit is cringe

[daring jungle]

Why?

[torpid hearth]

Sleep powder

And chlorophyll

[daring jungle]

Ah yes, as long as sleep powder doesnt miss

[torpid hearth]

Made trick room a living hell

[whole ibex]

Who’s using Zard Y right now

[daring jungle]

I am

[torpid hearth]

Alot of people

[daring jungle]

Is zard x terrible?

[whole ibex]

I need a Zard Y team

What is Zard Y getting paid up aside from Venu

[daring jungle]

Whimsicott and garchomp for me

I also added in aerodactyl and incin

But im still figuring out competitive

But my team is posted above

@whole ibex

[polar canyon]

How's the climb yall

[daring jungle]

Stuck in great ball 4. But currently on a 2 win streak

[polar canyon]

Nice

You'll get there

Just got through to ultra, had a few losses here and there but I think I'm doing fine

[polar canyon]

I like using it for support

[sudden remnant]

i wish it learned aura sphere

[polar canyon]

Icy wind that also happens to 2hko garchomp

[sudden remnant]

im running in to a lot of sand teams

[daring jungle]

Finally hit great ball 3

[cyan smelt]

I'm happy with my team, surprisingly people still bring incin against gambit but idm because i can get omniboosts from defiant and coaching lol

[daring jungle]

Incin and aero was the right call

[torpid hearth]

Man incin fits right in on my tr team

[cyan smelt]

Glad to hear those mons are working for you

[polar canyon]

Let's see if I win my first ultra ball game

And it's sand

[cyan smelt]

Sand is so tricky for me because they usually have milotic or rotom and they are awkward mons to deal with

[polar canyon]

Rain dance sableye will work its magic

[daring jungle]

God i love the shuca berry on chomp can i just say

[sudden remnant]

can zoroark learn aura sphere in this game cuz man these sand teams are a pain

[cyan smelt]

No but archaludon can!

[sudden remnant]

that does NOT help me

[high fractal]

Is mega chimecho good enough to be used?

[cyan smelt]

Niche pick but sure

[sudden remnant]

steel type with levitate and a good special attack stat

[cyan smelt]

Man so many good steel types

[sudden remnant]

their whim is faster than mine i think i just lose

[torpid hearth]

Aggron the goat

[cyan smelt]

Speed tie with whims?

[sudden remnant]

no its just faster

theirs is probably timid

[daring jungle]

Can vena 1 v 2 a mega camerupt and ttar?

[cyan smelt]

Doubtful

[torpid hearth]

Ooh i forgot camerupt existed

[sudden remnant]

its worth a shot but i dont think so

[cyan smelt]

The earth power would have to ohko camerupt

[sudden remnant]

maybe they misplay

[torpid hearth]

That might be a fun tr mon

[daring jungle]

The cam got a 2 turn wake up and erupted

[cyan smelt]

Rip

[daring jungle]

Ya

[sudden remnant]

yeah i lost

sad

[chrome knot]

the max is 2 turns now btw

[sudden remnant]

sand teams give me a lot of trouble

[daring jungle]

Wut

Its not 3 anymore

[chrome knot]

nah

status conditions got nerfed

[torpid hearth]

Yeah sleep got nerfed

[daring jungle]

So sleep is bad now

[torpid hearth]

Burn feels fine still

[daring jungle]

Oh my god, ive hit another afk

[chrome knot]

sleep is 2 turn max
para is 1/8 chance to full para
freeze is max 3 turns

[daring jungle]

Freeze is undeniably the worst of them to be hit with tho

[polar canyon]

Sableye is the god of rage bait

[sudden remnant]

id rather get frozen than para’d

freeze is temporary the speed reduction is permanent

[graceful scaffold]

im the god of rage bait

[chrome knot]

para still lets you play

[daring jungle]

This mega emboar survived on 1 hp then offed itself cause of roughskin

[sudden remnant]

i forced a tinkaton to struggle LOL

[daring jungle]

I need to go do something, but when i get back, could i get some matches with people here and some advice on how i can play better please

[sudden remnant]

i made them forfeit with whimsicott encoring them

i encored the tinkaton into fake out the rotom into tbolt and the lopunny into protect LOL

[daring jungle]

Oop

[sudden remnant]

the protected into my whim that was their first mistake

[polar canyon]

Ultra ball 3

I think sableye is my favorite thing to use in this meta

[sudden remnant]

i landed a focus miss

[lost sun]

what moves does coaching sneasler use

protect dire claw and cc?

[brave phoenix]

if im trying to counter tyranitar with torkoal, will body press or earth power be stronger? (252 hp 252 spa torkoal) and will body press be able to kill?

[chrome knot]

body press

and no

itll do like 80-90%

[sudden remnant]

do we know any speed tiers yet

[brave phoenix]

dam

in general should i use body press or earth power?

[lost sun]

120 base is usually the highest I see

[chrome knot]

earth power more consistent

find a fighting type for ttar

[brave phoenix]

even in a sun team?

[sudden remnant]

165 x 1.5=247.5 hmmmmm

[chrome knot]

idk what ur using

[brave phoenix]

charizard y, whimsi, farig, torkoal and i need 2 more to fill (1 of them will probs be incineroar)

[chrome knot]

penusaur

ive seen a few garchomps on sun

[brave phoenix]

so those 4 + venusaur + bumcineroar?

[chrome knot]

idk why farig torkoal u could just go balance/ho

[lost sun]

I got scarfchomp on my sun team

[brave phoenix]

i could always double into ttar with earth power and solar beam charizard but ones super fast and ones super slow so i doubt ill use them together

[brave phoenix]

balance?

[polar canyon]

Giggling every time someone protects and I have encore

[lost sun]

sounds like a free switch for them

[cyan smelt]

I am worried about that every single time with whims

[dense latch]

im running that rn, pairs well with zard as an eq partner

[polar canyon]

Sounds like a free force out for me

[lost sun]

I protect Infront of whims all the time cus ik the user can't resist pressing encore

[dense latch]

also scarf gardy is kinda fire

[lost sun]

and they never double into it

[cyan smelt]

I always just ignore the tempting fake out option and just dire claw into it

I've been burnt too many times by encore whims

[lost sun]

should I swap sylveon it was farig but I never bought it so I changed it but I'm still not bringing sylveon

had whims on prior but also never needed it

[cyan smelt]

How about ur friendly neighbourhood mega floette

[dense latch]

im using that six but gardevoir over sylveon

because that adds another eq partner for chomp bc of telepathy

[lost sun]

mega or scarf

[dense latch]

scarf

[lost sun]

oh

[dense latch]

white herb chomp

[lost sun]

was thinking sneasler so I could coach the gambit or chomp

[dense latch]

but wanna try lum

[lost sun]

solar beam is supposed to be sleep powder I swapped the wrong move

and raised the wrong sylveon stat 💀

[cyan smelt]

I feel like i'm winning a lot more, idk whether my teambuilding has gotten better/i'm more experienced now/people don't know what these mons do/influx of new people or a combo of all of these factors

[sudden remnant]

chat do i make a perish trap team with chimecho politoed and gengar

[cyan smelt]

Do it

[lost sun]

what does chimecho do

[cyan smelt]

Only mega gengar has shadow tag, just remember that

[sudden remnant]

i know

[sudden remnant]

screens and damage

[cyan smelt]

R u gonna run calm mind stored power

[sudden remnant]

no ive seen too many dark types running around

scooteezyvgc just insulted leafeon

[cyan smelt]

How dare they

Strong pokemon, weak pokemon etc

[sudden remnant]

here we go im against a dnite rain team

[cyan smelt]

What's the plan

[sudden remnant]

lead manectric zorark disguised as meow and bring my goat umbre

[lost sun]

win

[cyan smelt]

Umbreon seems clutch for u

Wait do u have snarl on zoroark

[sudden remnant]

lead politoed dnite exactly what i expected to see

no

focus miss bitter malice detect and icy wind

[cyan smelt]

Ur screwed if the end game comes down to u hitting a focus blast

[sudden remnant]

hurricane mega dnite good to know

[cyan smelt]

Hurricane into the zoroark slot?

[sudden remnant]

ye

[cyan smelt]

Wait i just realised, zoroark is great for scouting

[sudden remnant]

i accidentally clicked foul play into my own teammate and forfeit

[cyan smelt]

We hate misclicks

[sudden remnant]

i usually disguise it as meowscarada in case its incin wanting to click fake out

or a random mon clicking a fire or flying move like just now

oh god what is this team

[cyan smelt]

Mega manectric must be really powerful to ko it with tbolt after icy wind

[sudden remnant]

incin whim lovely

[cyan smelt]

135 sp atk, not a slouch

[sudden remnant]

good thing i clicked icy wind

cuz manectric ft brought whim down to focus sash

WHY ARE ALL THESE INCINS RUNNING FLARE BLITZ LMAO

yeah click flare blitz into my “meowscarada”

[cyan smelt]

I noticed that too and they end up bringing themselves into sucker punch range for gambit

[sudden remnant]

it will be really funny if i land this focus miss

[cyan smelt]

U won't

[sudden remnant]

probably not but its fine if i dont

its incin mega aggron

damn that aggron is chonky

[cyan smelt]

Uh oh not mega aggron

[sudden remnant]

I LANDED THE FOCUS MISS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[cyan smelt]

On aggron or incin?

[sudden remnant]

incin

[cyan smelt]

Bye incin

[sudden remnant]

i ft’d the aggron

manectric please burn this aggron

oh it switched

[cyan smelt]

I actually dunno how i'm gonna deal with mega aggron or mega camerupt

[sudden remnant]

I LANDED A SECOND FOCUS MISS

NOW bye incin idk how it lived the first

[cyan smelt]

Mega aggron is slow right

[sudden remnant]

very

[sudden remnant]

why wont this aggron get burned

[cyan smelt]

Ok phew slower than skeledirge

But my gambit does not want to be eating a body press from mega aggron

The new zamazenta fr

[sudden remnant]

i think i just lost

[wild knot]

People are saying multiscale is bugged on mega dragonite

[sudden remnant]

lets see

[wild knot]

In champions

[sudden remnant]

???

[cyan smelt]

I mean it has felt a bit easy for me to kill

[sudden remnant]

nope i won lets goooooo

meowscarada has thunder punch and it clutched

[wild knot]

someone recorded a clip of thier mega dragonite 1HKO to a single dragon pulse at full hp from a mega dragonite

[sudden remnant]

i gave it thunder punch to hit any charizards i may come across

[cyan smelt]

Scarf and what are ur four moves on meow

[sudden remnant]

thunder punch play rough flower trick night slash

[cyan smelt]

Yikes gambit does not want the play rough from that

[sudden remnant]

probably doesnt want the thunder punch either

speaking of charizard

[cyan smelt]

I'm lowkey thinking i need close combat on sneasler

[near crag]

Any idea when showdown will update?

[sudden remnant]

of course i land 2 focus misses but miss an icy wind

[cyan smelt]

Reminds me of that end game with that milotic and my mega kang

Should have double edged a lot sooner

Milotic doesn't really hit very hard

Without competitive boost it's kinda trash

[sudden remnant]

i wish this zard would miss a heat wave

[cyan smelt]

They never do

[sudden remnant]

i have finally killed the zard

[cyan smelt]

Fortunately i never have to find out again because i can just dire claw + sucker punch (unless they have farig)

[sudden remnant]

meowscarada thunder punch nuked it

[cyan smelt]

W

Just like its play rough nukes mega dnite

[sudden remnant]

exactly

this idiot just clicked fake out into my umbreon

i have inner focus idiot

[cyan smelt]

Yeah this is like mega froslasses not clicking protect in front of kang

It's too easy to fake them out

[sudden remnant]

i lose now though

meow is locked into thunder punch against a garchomp

[cyan smelt]

If only u had u turn

[sudden remnant]

id still be locked into thunder punch

i thunder punched the zard

[cyan smelt]

Idk how i'm gonna deal with venu, zard, chomp

[sudden remnant]

WHAT IS THIS TEAM I CANT FIGHT THIS 😭

zard venu chomp blast raichu and tflame

[cyan smelt]

U just know the blastoise gonna be shell smash

[sudden remnant]

fake out with shell smash shenanigans probably

crazy lead from them

chomp tflame

[cyan smelt]

Ah yes eq tailwind spam

[sudden remnant]

i lead well into it

i led zoroark disguised as meowscarada and lopunny

[cyan smelt]

Wait ur running lopunny now?

[sudden remnant]

did that garchomp just click stealth rocks

I MISSED TRIPLE AXEL NOOOOOO

[cyan smelt]

Scrappy triple axel mega lopunny sounds amazing ngl

Except when it misses

[sudden remnant]

i have fake out protect triple axel cc

[cyan smelt]

Is mega lopunny better kang

[sudden remnant]

gonna drop cc for high jump kick im suffering from defense drops

and heres the mega zard

[cyan smelt]

U know who i miss

Toedscruel

[sudden remnant]

its zard x i can win i can win i can win i can win i can win

its not zard y i can win

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

zoroark got a double ko lmao

actually its gotten all three of the kills so far

venusaur put zoroark to sleep but its fine

meow ends this with night slash

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-woooo-yeah-baby-gif-24480925

[sudden remnant]

also yeah my team is lopunny manectric meowscarada umbreon zoroark whimsicott

is this a mega scovillain team 💀

it is indeed LMAO

too bad i ignored it

[cyan smelt]

R u going to win against it

[sudden remnant]

lets see

i landed another focus miss into another incin

[cyan smelt]

Incins been giving u trouble

[sudden remnant]

not really tbh

ive been having trouble with ttar though

[cyan smelt]

I just drain punch the ttar

[sudden remnant]

why does scovillains ability work like that

what is this

[cyan smelt]

What is the mega ability

[sudden remnant]

it burns any attacker against it physical or special contact or not

[cyan smelt]

That sounds annoying

[sudden remnant]

it is

[cyan smelt]

How is my sneasler supposed to attack it

[sudden remnant]

kill it instantly but you’ll still get burned

they read me

that sucks

[cyan smelt]

Wait i can just kill it with skeledirge no

[indigo coral]

Perfectly fine, it has zero bulk and abysmal speed. You just get burned when you OHKO it

[sudden remnant]

potentially

[indigo coral]

You can also tech Lum Berry on physical attackers

[sudden remnant]

i cant my lopunny has its mega astone and meow has a scarf

im gonna lose to this chili pepper

[indigo coral]

Literally just OHKO it

[cyan smelt]

I feel like black glasses gambit is just killing everything

[sudden remnant]

I CANT

they had an incin that parting shot my manectric

came back in and flinched my manectric

[indigo coral]

How can your team not output enough damage to deal with sub 90 in every defensive stat

[sudden remnant]

because incineroar exists

[polar canyon]

Biggest smile on my face as I almost fumble a game horribly then manage to lock both their last mons into protect with encore

[daring jungle]

Anyone got an a9 and chomp list they could share

My sister has 0 exp with comp and its fir her

[sudden remnant]

i must say its very easy to get vp

[daring jungle]

Also, would it be possible for me to get some matches with people here so i can get some advice on how to play better please

[daring jungle]

I agree

[cyan smelt]

Yeah i floated the idea of having champions friend code channel so we can battle each other for practice and ili said they're discussing it

[indigo coral]

I can give you a couple games before I go to bed, shoot me a lobby code

[daring jungle]

6010 7563

[indigo coral]

Omw

[daring jungle]

Thank you

[sudden remnant]

yikes

https://tenor.com/view/ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-simpsons-i'm-in-danger-im-in-danger-gif-12212469452113785130

[daring jungle]

Im scared. Bro brought rain

[sudden remnant]

nevermind im good

lopunnys fake out did 17%

[cyan smelt]

Mega gard is scary

[indigo coral]

Have yet to use this team, it's a test run

[cyan smelt]

So is mega gallade, mega gallade has inner focus 😭

[daring jungle]

Nah, am cooked

[cyan smelt]

I learnt that the hard way

[daring jungle]

Sleep powder 75%

Is this a perish team?

[indigo coral]

Nope, it was at first but I swapped for a more standard set

[daring jungle]

Welp, i got cooked. Well and truly

[cyan smelt]

What are rain teams running these days because i've seen both pelipper and politoed

Politoed is more annoying because it seems bulkier

[red willow]

But peliper gets fully accurate hurricane

Im sure its a pick your poison type thing

[brave phoenix]

dont people run both?

[cyan smelt]

Wasted slot to run both

[red willow]

Naw just one weather setter

[sudden remnant]

sighhhhhh

[daring jungle]

You sure its a test run

[grand spire]

is mega lopunny viable in vgc

[red willow]

I kinda want dark stab on incin is that crazy talk

[sudden remnant]

depends who you ask

[daring jungle]

I have darkest lariat on mine

[indigo coral]

Yep, it did surprisingly well actually

[red willow]

I mean mines bulkier for fake out p shot shenanigans

[grand spire]

soooo

its not then

[red willow]

So Im not sure if a second offensive move other than flare blitz is a good call

[sudden remnant]

its working very well for me

[grand spire]

it lost return right

does it get triple axel

[daring jungle]

Now you are practically mirror matching me. Im getting bullied

[sudden remnant]

return and frustration no longer exist unfortunately and yes it gets triple axel

[red willow]

Is taunt even that relevant this meta?

[sudden remnant]

yes

[red willow]

Havent seen too many things that arent face dmg

[grand spire]

so u have to use double edge for normals stab?

[red willow]

So far

[indigo coral]

This is my main team LOL

[polar canyon]

Think I'm gonna stop for tonight at ultra ball 2

Almost there

[sudden remnant]

im not running normal stab at all. im running cc triple axel fake out

[grand spire]

u turn?

[sudden remnant]

im running protect in the 4th slot

[grand spire]

it gets that right

oh

[sudden remnant]

yes

[grand spire]

do y mind sharing ur team w me

[sudden remnant]

sure

[grand spire]

thnx

[sudden remnant]

shit lemme get a better angle so you can see the first 3

[cyan smelt]

Does anyone have a graphic of what games are compatible with champions, is it all switch games?

[grand spire]

is whims the best support for it

[sudden remnant]

its shiny why wouldnt i run it

and also its won me quite a few games

[grand spire]

ok

im just gonna try to make a team work and try to put my favorites in it like primarina or smth

[next stump]

did meows lose knock off?

[daring jungle]

@indigo coral, that was close

[sudden remnant]

no i just want the consistent damage of night slash since ill be locked into it

[indigo coral]

Damn, gg. That dang Earthquake crit, I'm EVd in bulk so I'd have lived Dclaw otherwise

[daring jungle]

Oop

[indigo coral]

Let me finish my third team real quick and I'll give you another game

[daring jungle]

Oki

Is it a sand or snow team by chance?

[indigo coral]

It is not

[daring jungle]

Oki

[indigo coral]

Kind of an all over the place team, missing a few mons I wanted to run in Champions so it's got odd substitutes.

What's the room code again?

Found it

[daring jungle]

Its this

Trick room with sun?

[indigo coral]

It's a mess is what it is LOL

[daring jungle]

I see

[indigo coral]

Til Aerodactyl learns Wide Guard

[daring jungle]

Lol

I got cooked

[cyan smelt]

Wait, that's huge

[indigo coral]

I built the team around Mega Golurk and Torkoal stole the spotlight LOL

[daring jungle]

I am terrible

[cyan smelt]

Wide guard means no more blizzard, no more eq, no more rock slide and no more heat wave

[sudden remnant]

i might need to add someone with rapid spin cuz im seeing a lot of steath rocks

[cyan smelt]

Bro what even learns rapid spin

[sudden remnant]

a lot

[indigo coral]

It's not that you're terrible, you made some pretty good reads actually. I just have been playing Too Much VGC for a long time

[daring jungle]

Maushold gets tidy up which does the same right

[sudden remnant]

yeah but that doesnt synergize with my team very well

[cyan smelt]

Don't put urself down, we're all learning, always

[daring jungle]

Didnt feel like it. I got 4-0d twice and barely eeked one out

[indigo coral]

Those were some good games, gg! I had fun

[daring jungle]

Ggs

Any advice you can give me

And would anyone else like to battle?

[cyan smelt]

I can help you work on your team and play practice games with you and note if you're making the right plays etc, not right now though

But the offer is open

[daring jungle]

When would be a good time for you

[sudden remnant]

ill battle you after my match im
in rn

[daring jungle]

Thank you.

[gentle crag]

mugi4162 has given 1 Gen Rep to naganohara_vexae

[daring jungle]

Code is this

[cyan smelt]

I don't like seeing others put themselves down when they're still learning because i used to be like this

[lost sun]

anyone want to battle

[fresh walrus]

Is this all pokemon champions

[cyan smelt]

Now i don't even get tilted at losses anymore, i accept i got outplayed and probably had a lack of knowledge

[lost sun]

7067 4151 is the code lmk if Ur joining

[cyan smelt]

It's a catch all channel for any competitive pokemon but since champions released it's the main focus yes

[fresh walrus]

Ok, I was curious if dont know a discord for champions and wasnt sure about scarlet and violet vgc being over

[daring jungle]

Yeah, i feel like, for me, its the feeling of being stuck is the worst

[cyan smelt]

I think most people will be migrating to champions now it's out

[indigo coral]

If you're open to a teamswap suggestion, try adding an extra Sun abuser over Aerodactyl. Sun teams really don't want to bring any Mega other than Charizard because of how broken he is. That being said, since your team is built around Sun, you should almost always bring Charizard Y to each battle unless it's really terrible. Being able to set your weather after any potential switch ins gives you complete control of the battle. I also am not a fan of Sunny Day on Whimsicott. You really don't want to waste a turn setting weather when abilities do it for free. While it comes up in the mirror, I generally prefer Swords Dance over Rock Slide on Garchomp due to how easy it is to punish and take over games with it. I'll post my team so you can see what I normally run, I'm 15-1 with it on Ranked Ladder.

[fresh walrus]

I like it alot, its not as time consuming to create a team

[lost sun]

does outrage have smart targeting

[indigo coral]

Nope

You can target a Fairy with it

[lost sun]

damn

[cyan smelt]

Aereon could you take a quick glance at my team and tell me if i'm on the right track? I feel like i've been winning a lot with it although i've had a few losses and i'd say they were mainly down to lack of knowledge (this is my first mega format)

[daring jungle]

You run lum instead of yache on chomp?

[indigo coral]

I can try at least, post your team

[cyan smelt]

I try to punish intim with coaching and defiant and the goal is to make the team really bulky with screens

[daring jungle]

Would you mind sharing your ev spreads as well please?

[cyan smelt]

Kingambit has been my ace

[lost sun]

why gliscor

[cyan smelt]

For sneasler

[lost sun]

I think garchomp could do the same but better

[cyan smelt]

And incin

Garchomp doesn't have a built in clam

And only learns stomping and eq

[lost sun]

only 95 attack tho

[cyan smelt]

Yeah but i fake out and sd

Or fake out and coaching and sd

[lost sun]

give garchomp sd

[cyan smelt]

I will trial chomp

[indigo coral]

Yep! Being able to punish Will-o-Wisp, Spicy Spray, and other forms of Burn/Paralysis/Sleep usually gives you a free turn to set up Swords Dance and sweep from there. Not much lives a +2 Earthquake.

Worse quality picture, but here's SPs. Most spreads are pretty simple, Whimsicott is teched to live a few specific things and speed check a few relevant things.

[red willow]

Holy hell unboosted u turn from m scizor killed tyranitar at like 80 percent lol

[cyan smelt]

That is scary, mega scizor is terrifying

[red willow]

Yeah Ive been having decent luck with it so far covered my types I was missing pretty well

[daring jungle]

But also really easily bbqd

[lost sun]

if I outrage and the opponent protects 1 Mon could it try to hit the protected one

[red willow]

Yeah gotta look out for those fire mons lol

[cyan smelt]

Yeah it's squishy so you have to pivot well with it

[daring jungle]

Thank you

[gentle crag]

mugi4162 has given 1 Gen Rep to aereon767455

[daring jungle]

Ill give it a try and see how it goes

[cyan smelt]

I really wish gliscor didn't lose dual wingbeat

[red willow]

Primarina has been pretty clutch too

[cyan smelt]

Fairy types are goated

[red willow]

The spread damage from water hyper voice is p gud

Wish we had throat spray tho lol

[cyan smelt]

Yeah and it can deal with mega zard y well too

As well as ttar excadrill

[indigo coral]

I feel like Garchomp is better over Gliscor for sure. I'd recommend Ice Punch on Kangashkan over Double-Edge, bit more of a tech but it comes in handy as relevant coverage since lots of the meta is Ice weak. I feel like Sneasler should definitely have Fighting STAB, especially with Unburden White Herb you can easily run Close Combat. I don't like the lack of speed control, maybe add a Whimsicott for Tailwind access?

[wild knot]

Hah?! https://vxtwitter.com/katatatat__/status/2042069606710292926

Kat 💜🪐 (@katatatat__)

Kingambit lost its psychic immunity???

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[red willow]

Yeah kinda itching to try out basculegion it seems like water types in general are p well positioned from what Ive seen so far

[lost sun]

did they use that move that lets psychic type hit dark

[wild knot]

https://twitter.com/katatatat__/status/2042071857549942949

Kat 💜🪐 (@katatatat__)

@FomTarro Sure did not. This was turn 3, turn 1 hat trick roomed turn 2 i protected

X · Apr 9, 2026, 2:47 AM

[indigo coral]

Is Expanding Force still Psychic? Lots of moves got type changes, could be Fairy now

[red willow]

I kinda like having trick room mode with farig

[cyan smelt]

So get rid of coaching on sneasler? Replace gliscor with garchomp? And replace a9 with whims?

[red willow]

Primarina Sinistcha and m Scizor slower than dogwater

[cyan smelt]

Double edge did come in clutch for me against a milotic earlier

[red willow]

Almost got cheesed by a arcanine spamming snarl and intimidate on switch in

[indigo coral]

Not A9, I'd actually recommend swapping Skeledirge. While it is nice against random teams, against anything competent it matches up really poorly

[cyan smelt]

But dual fairy though

[wild knot]

Still psychic

[red willow]

Is there a legal psychic terrain setter?

[indigo coral]

Dual Fairy, but different defensive and offensive profiles. You don't HAVE to run unique typings on every Pokemon to have a good team, most good teams will sometimes double or even triple up on typings.

[cyan smelt]

Hmmm let's see, chomp, sneasler, a9, whims, gambit, kang

Yeah i see the vision

With sneasler cc white herb i no longer have to worry about incin

[indigo coral]

Sun teams right now run 2 Grass and 2 Fire types, Rain runs multiple Waters and occasionally multiple Steels and Ghosts, TR runs multiple Psychics and Fairies, etc

[cyan smelt]

With sneasler cc white herb i don't have to worry about arch

Should i keep coaching and get rid of fake out?

[indigo coral]

Hard no, Coaching is 100% the cut

[cyan smelt]

Alright goodbye coaching

It was fun but too passive against good teams

Since whims is not a weather setter do i go tailwind, tect, encore, moonblast?

[polar canyon]

Ditching coaching too

Can't get any opportunities to use it

I haven't once used coaching and gotten an attack off with starmie

[cyan smelt]

And what moves on chomp? 100% sd and stomping tantrum and tect right

[lost sun]

ye and dclaw

[cyan smelt]

Dragon claw for mega dnite right

[lost sun]

ye and other chomps

[cyan smelt]

True

Wait, what do i do into corviknights then

[polar canyon]

I'm surprised mega starmie ice spinner doesnt actually ohko mega dnite through multiscale

[lost sun]

sd

[cyan smelt]

With gambit?

[lost sun]

or just make sure it's not down to chomp v corv

[polar canyon]

So do you guys think mega dnite is here to stay or a fad until mega mence is back

[cyan smelt]

Alright im gonna build this so i don't forget it

[lost sun]

I think it will be usable when mence is here

[daring jungle]

Aight, would anyone be uo for some battling now so i can try out the changes i made

[red willow]

Just realized I have a shiny tinkaton

Is it any good lol

[lost sun]

no idea

[sudden remnant]

dropped triple axel on lopunny for fire punch and dropped play rough and thunder punch on meow for protect and triple axel and gave it the focus sash

corviknight in particular is difficult to deal with if something happens to manectric

[lost sun]

there's a spot where u can see the most used Pokémon and it's moves

even it's stats and teammates

[rustic mountain]

ill let u know once i get some more ladder games

[cyan smelt]

Yache berry on chomp?

[rustic mountain]

its acceptable yea

[polar canyon]

Can be a niche fake out with mold breaker if farigiraf starts getting more popular

Ignores armor tail

[rustic mountain]

tink seems fine

not bad not great

[lost sun]

quaqaval rn is the least used

[polar canyon]

I'd try it if I played singles

[cyan smelt]

I literally dunno what item to run on whims

[rustic mountain]

a lot depends on team comp and the role ur asking that mon to provide, lower power means its a lot more open then in the past

[dense latch]

i haven’t seen a dnite yet

[rustic mountain]

cuz u havent played me

[dense latch]

but it has to be usable at the very least

[polar canyon]

I like quaquaval

[lost sun]

hatterenes usage is below digersby 💀

[polar canyon]

How

[dense latch]

zard y has been pretty fun

[rustic mountain]

pog

[dense latch]

i havent played that much only
like 10-15 games

[cyan smelt]

I think i need to look at the items list to see what item for whims

[rustic mountain]

wdym how dnite is not a common mega choice either

[rustic mountain]

whered that get u rankin wise

[red willow]

So for a stab at a rain team Im thinking Pelipper Arch Basculegion Sinistcha M dnite

[polar canyon]

Maybe its more common in the ranks im in rn

[red willow]

What would a good last mon be

[dense latch]

just sd so far

[rustic mountain]

trynna see if i can maybe push for mball tn

oh sd

[daring jungle]

What is quick claws activation rate

[foggy lodge]

https://fixupx.com/AdAstraCA/status/2041932340675670393?s=20

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FixupX · Apr 8, 2026, 5:33 PM

[dense latch]

that one modded server

[cyan smelt]

But ykw it's different that i'm asking for help and open to accepting feedback on my team

[daring jungle]

I always seems to proc

[lost sun]

20

[polar canyon]

Would push for mb if I didn't have important stuff tomorrow

[dense latch]

i’ve been too busy w college to get my evs done on swsh or sv

[polar canyon]

Ultra 2 rn

[rustic mountain]

i only got 3 games last night, decompressing a bit b4 jumping into some more tn

[foggy lodge]

Dont use quick claw guys

[daring jungle]

I keep losing to a mon to it

[foggy lodge]

Really really bad item lol

[polar canyon]

Sableye carries

[dense latch]

but most mons i have can just run 252 252 i feel like

zard, venu, even scarf gardy or chomp

[cyan smelt]

Is chomp just max spe max attack

[rustic mountain]

too late i have sash already pelipper needed something and that seemed fun

[foggy lodge]

Lmao

[rustic mountain]

[dense latch]

still trying to find the best set for zard

[foggy lodge]

Man wheres rocky helmet