#competitive_discussion

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cyan smelt
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still getting used to megas

supple latch
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Yeah, it’s been a while since Megas were allowed

cyan smelt
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now what item for gliscor

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soft sand 100%

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Suddenly type boosting items are becoming more viable now

cyan smelt
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too bad gliscor lost dual wingbeat because i would totally run sharp beak dual wingbeat

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I’m definitely running Liquid Voice Mystic Water Primarina

cyan smelt
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omg yes prim is gonna be so good

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ok, sash a9, mega kang, white herb sneasler, leftovers skeledirge, black glasses gambit and soft sand gliscor

wild knot
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cyan smelt
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i'm wondering if i should run fake out on sneasler because idk if acro is the play

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swords dance acro is a reg h moveset

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real prairie
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whats the point of this chat vs champions chat now? lol

red willow
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Is mega metagross playable

wild knot
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No

cyan smelt
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i would keep the white herb

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waitttttt, i can run coaching sneasler next to gambit to give it an omniboost

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now i'm cooking

red willow
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So its not just mons that were in za allowed first reg? Thats what someone was saying

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Whats the format?

cyan smelt
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yes

wild knot
supple latch
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So I think I know how to counter Floette

cyan smelt
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just dire claw its ass

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cyan smelt
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i'm honestly thinking of running dire claw, coaching, fake out, protect

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wild knot
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I may have repeated this so many times but.. i’m still mad i cant bring pachirisu

red willow
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Why no metagross? Lmao

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Did they think tough claws too strong for this reg or something?

cyan smelt
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i feel like i am cooking with this team

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time to test it out

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red willow
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Kinda bummed had a shiny one ready to go from violet lol

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cyan smelt
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everything on my team is shiny except for kang

red willow
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I mean does that mean mega chomp og is just back on the menu

hollow latch
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even trade a shiny for it xD

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cyan smelt
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holy shit goated blizzard freeze in my first match

daring jungle
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Can i get some help. I just reached great ball tier in singles and about to start it 8n doubles, but i need some help with team building. If someone can help, twould be greatly appreciated

cyan smelt
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ok first off choose your mega

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woah easy 4-0 in my first game

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i feel like i'm cooking with this team

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sneasler is still busted guys

red willow
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Is h arc actually pretty decent in a non incin format for the intimidate

daring jungle
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Ive only been using mega lucario up to this point, but im feeling its not as good in doubles

cyan smelt
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garchomp 100%

daring jungle
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Even with the drop in speed?

red willow
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Wait can we not even do sand stuff with chomp?

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Is excadrill and tyranitar not there?

daring jungle
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I have their mega stones, but dont have either yet

cyan smelt
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ttar excadrill are legal

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red willow
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Oh whee cool

cyan smelt
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oops i forgot that double edge don't work on gengar once kang is mega evolved

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i am slaughtering people with this team

daring jungle
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Oop

cyan smelt
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people really just be playing with their favs

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cyan smelt
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lol that quote is bunk for vgc

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daring jungle
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With mega chomp, who of these should go with?:

cyan smelt
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my favs just happen to be op

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i feel like mega zard y might be good here

daring jungle
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My fav is infeenape, but hes not that good

cyan smelt
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and maushold

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help i'm addicted to vgc again guys

daring jungle
supple latch
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Yes, I like the Goat of VGC

solid frigate
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Look at this and tell me it’s not just world of light death beam

daring jungle
cyan smelt
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no it's fine

hollow latch
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but maybe that is just me

daring jungle
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Think so?

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My knowledge isnt that good with doubles

supple latch
hollow latch
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i mean with the mon u got i see the bottom guy that can be abused in sun and gets speedy

solid frigate
hollow latch
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chomp mega lose speed which sadly does a lot

supple latch
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And actually, when I was younger, I thought Dynamax Cannon was THE World Of Light laser of Pokémon

daring jungle
cyan smelt
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mega gard is still ass yall

tawdry urchin
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Could someone please give me a trick room team to build off of?

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solid frigate
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daring jungle
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Yeah

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With no speed EVs mind you

hollow latch
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if u wanna play tr u wanna play with a guy under 80 in my opinion

daring jungle
hollow latch
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to garante u can use ur trick romm to our adavantage and not ur opp

cyan smelt
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holy shit i lost sneasler t1 and still clutched with gambit

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gambit is goated

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cyan smelt
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gone 3-0 so far yall

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this team has OPTIONS

daring jungle
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Good job

cyan smelt
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also wow it is 10:35pm, time flies when you're having fun

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cyan smelt
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champions is good yall

daring jungle
cyan smelt
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are you aussie too light?

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daring jungle
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Same here

cyan smelt
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hell yeah aussies represent

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daring jungle
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Ya

supple latch
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Yep, knew it

daring jungle
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Is torkoal the only one with drought (not including groudon)

cyan smelt
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gambit is my goat

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no, zard y has it

daring jungle
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You are right

daring jungle
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For some reason, i thought it kept solar power

hollow latch
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base form got it

daring jungle
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Ya

cyan smelt
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who is your goat of champions so far

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cyan smelt
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i love mega kang i'mma bring it more

daring jungle
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Yeah, sounds fun

hollow latch
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whimscoot for example

cyan smelt
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holy shit mega kang is a tank yall

hollow latch
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gives ur team speed contol an supporrt

cyan smelt
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watch my gambit sucker punch ohko mega beedrill

hollow latch
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oh u ggott moushold

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hollow latch
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u could use moushold as suppor for redirction

cyan smelt
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mega manetric is a goated pick, i think vex was using it

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vex was using umbreon and meowscarada

daring jungle
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Right now this is what ive got:

cyan smelt
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ykw what's fun, when the gambit goes for the sucker punch on skeledirge and i go the will o wisp

daring jungle
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hollow latch
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so u can redirct ur opps mon

cyan smelt
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the soundtrack for this game is perfect

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daring jungle
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daring jungle
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Ill add gyra next

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daring jungle
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Just fixing up maus first

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cyan smelt
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this garg is using stealth rock, chat what are we doing

daring jungle
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What moveset would be ideal then. It currently has pop bomb, thief, crunch and dub edge

viscid void
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ngl i dont think champions is gonna last long..

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viscid void
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for starters, its co developed by ilca..

solid frigate
viscid void
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AND you must need online every time, theres literally no single player content

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no 6v6 either

cyan smelt
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avalanche garg? wtf

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cyan smelt
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and now mega sableye, chat is is not cooking

hollow latch
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u just dont see it

cyan smelt
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oh glimmora, i might actually lose this

daring jungle
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Thoughts?:

cyan smelt
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nvm a9 clutched

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a9 and gambit goat tag team

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4-0

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daring jungle
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A9?

cyan smelt
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alolan ninetales

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alola nintentale

tawdry urchin
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Champions literally has NO pokemon bruh 😭 They didn't even put indeedee and mega falinks in the game 💔

daring jungle
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Of course

cyan smelt
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a9 and gambit is my goat i'mma lead more

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this reminds me of stadium, in a good way

daring jungle
hollow latch
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good luck man ^^

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and have fun

cyan smelt
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focus on the weakest stat first, then whichever attack stat you want to buff, think about what you want to outspeed and dump the rest in hp

hollow latch
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the meta is pretty new so we still all trying to figure out some stuff

cyan smelt
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holy moly they got OG rby soundtrack in here

tawdry urchin
daring jungle
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That should hold right

cyan smelt
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i'm wondering if i should switch unburden back to poison touch, i've hardly seen incin

daring jungle
daring jungle
cyan smelt
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moxie gyarados is probably better with hardly any intim around

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cyan smelt
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vio been using moxie gyarados

hollow latch
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gyarados here would more act as an replacement for incin

daring jungle
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Is waterfall, eq, ice fang and d-dance good enough

hollow latch
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and typ coverage

cyan smelt
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oh yeah go for intim gyara for sure then

daring jungle
cyan smelt
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try gyara

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i'm honestly feeling really good about my team

hollow latch
daring jungle
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Aight, who finishes off the team then?

cyan smelt
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do not use mega victreebell

hollow latch
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incin is the best mon in vcg and defintly a nice guy because it function almost in every team

daring jungle
hollow latch
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so getting a incin is definitly worth

daring jungle
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Hence why only char has an item

cyan smelt
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use venu instead, give you another mega option

hollow latch
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if u want i can give u my incin

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has all move ready

daring jungle
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Nah, i got living dexes in both sword and violet

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I have like 50+ training tickets

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So, swap vic for vena?

cyan smelt
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yes

daring jungle
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And get incin?

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cyan smelt
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gives you sleep powder option too

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daring jungle
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Or would whim be good here

hollow latch
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idk charz gets tailwind anymore

cyan smelt
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gang should i bother with style

hollow latch
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does it?

daring jungle
daring jungle
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Already got all the held items

wild knot
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Please be careful about weather setting people still have no clue which megas mega first or second its inconsistent

daring jungle
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Aye, ill keep that in mind

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cyan smelt
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dawob is goated tbh

daring jungle
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Which would be better, incin or whim?

daring jungle
cyan smelt
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gambit is now at +3 attack and +1 def

hollow latch
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?

daring jungle
wild knot
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weather war is crucial for certain double teams so

daring jungle
hollow latch
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i would go for whim but that is just me because i like having speed control and weather control

cyan smelt
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he nearly murdered mega chomp from full

wild knot
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but yeah it depends on the team mostly

daring jungle
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Thats what 8m inclined too aswell, but i know incin is just that good

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Well i posted as a pic earlier

hollow latch
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because u could run whim with moon beam (idk what is called in english but the fairy move), tailwind sun and helping hands

daring jungle
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Been getting lots of help from the peeps here

wild knot
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its moonnblast

hollow latch
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ah right moon beam is lunala move right xD

wild knot
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if you want to run encore trolling then put on whim

daring jungle
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cyan smelt
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gambit is a fucking monster with coaching

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he took down corv and mega chomp, by itself

daring jungle
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Damn

wild knot
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defiant?

cyan smelt
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yes

daring jungle
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If vena has chlorophyll, do i need to invest ivs in speed?

cyan smelt
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ok well i lost to typhlosion in the end

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daring jungle
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Oop

wild knot
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well ivs dont exsist in champions

daring jungle
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Evs sorry

hollow latch
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ye idk how its called

cyan smelt
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if i see palafin i lead gambit sneasler with skeledirge and kangaskhan in the back

daring jungle
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Thoughts?:

wild knot
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sleep powder

hollow latch
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u wanna play with sleep powder

cyan smelt
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gambit is murdering everything

daring jungle
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I forgot about that

hollow latch
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earth power isnt need here in opinion because u got chomp for it^^

daring jungle
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Fair

cyan smelt
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gambit with sneasler's help has just koed two mons

daring jungle
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Apart from swapping e-pow for sleep, everything else look good?

cyan smelt
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it brought aggron down to 4% from full health

daring jungle
cyan smelt
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i'm impressed yo

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i think i've gone 4-1

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cyan smelt
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having the time of my life

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i can fake out with sneasler and set up an SD, then t2 coaching and sucker punch

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this is fire

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sneasler and gambit goated duo

wild knot
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hmm im checking..

cyan smelt
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has anyone seen milotic yet?

wild knot
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planning to mega the venu or not? or just char for sun

daring jungle
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Might give it the stone as an option

cyan smelt
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mega venu is good for the speed and attack boost

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i mean sp attack but you get it

wild knot
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and bulky (if you build it that way)

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also its abilty "thick fat"

cyan smelt
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mega delphox is ass, don't use it

wild knot
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im just looking at stuff

daring jungle
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Well, this is what ive got:

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Thoughts?

cyan smelt
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looks good to me

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just watch out for chomp a9

daring jungle
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Yeah, im gonna miss lucario.

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Great for dealing with a9

azure ether
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how about King's Rock on Gyarados

azure ether
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you only have 1 water move for that Mystic Water

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might as well go gamba with the King's Rock

daring jungle
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Yeah, didnt know what to give him, great idea

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Now, it is currently 10:52pm. Do i start now or tomorrow?

wild knot
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well its up to you

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still need to build my team

daring jungle
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Ill give it a whirl first

cyan smelt
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what are you building with pachi

azure ether
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Man I've been in situations where I'd rather be able to tera than commit to a mega

wild knot
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pachi isnt invited kalos

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yet..

cyan smelt
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i'm really feeling the parental bond nerf

wild knot
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need to deal with the tutorials first

cyan smelt
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i just faced a really good team in casuals, it had milotic, garchomp, a9 and mega delphox

azure ether
daring jungle
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First team i see is ttar, arcanine, drampa, whims, aggrin and sylveon

daring jungle
hollow latch
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ye mega delphox levitate is pretty good with chomp earthquake

cyan smelt
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i didn't even think about that synergy, and a9 chomp is classic

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i'm really thinking about switching from unburden to poison touch

azure ether
cyan smelt
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i'm playing against rotom as well

daring jungle
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Ive used eq twice and got 2 flinches off

cyan smelt
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i am addicted to mega kang

daring jungle
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Gyra and whims solod ttar, drampa, aggron and sylveon

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wild knot
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dedenne can set up screens maybe ill use as a joke

hollow latch
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only because being able to hit ghost typ with fake out before mega

daring jungle
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Secod game, kingambit and abomasnow lead into mega char y and whims

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With heat wave as well

cyan smelt
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also double fake out is hilarious ngl

wild knot
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how sad there is no light clay

daring jungle
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Beedeill and hydreigon followed, but that didnt stop char n whims

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This is a solid start. Thanks people

azure ether
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you should start seeing real people around the pokeball 2 rank

cyan smelt
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time to hop back on ranked

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i'm addicted

daring jungle
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I just ran into another sun team

cyan smelt
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champions has got me back into vgc big time

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oh shit ttar exca

daring jungle
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But they had incin, torkoal, farigiraf, meganium, chandelure and gyra

cyan smelt
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i'm leading with kang skeledirge then sneasler gambit against ttar exca

hollow latch
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chandelure tho is interesting

wild knot
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oo idk to bring a choice scarf rotom for trolling

cyan smelt
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mega ttar ok nice

azure ether
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out of curiosity, if you're running Sand, would you want to mega Exca? it loses Sand Rush on mega so the sand is kinda pointless

cyan smelt
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nope

azure ether
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who do you mega on a sand team then?

cyan smelt
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ttar usually

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gets attack boost

hollow latch
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because u can set it twice

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and control the weather

daring jungle
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Damn, this incin is using my sun against my grass types with flare blitz

cyan smelt
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i just destroyed mega ttar with mega kang

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mega kang is very good yall

daring jungle
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God i hate farigiraf

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azure ether
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would you run a secondary mega?

daring jungle
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Mega chandelure just popped up

daring jungle
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Thick fat dont save it

azure ether
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ah I was asking about sand team, but yea

hollow latch
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nah

daring jungle
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Trick room shuts me down. Ahhhhgg

azure ether
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if none, then would E-Floette work

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azure ether
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it's basically a Flutter Mane

hollow latch
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for typ coverage and against rain teams

cyan smelt
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ok sand might be a problem for me

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cyan smelt
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really should have brough a9

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oh well lesson learnt against sand have a9 in the back

cyan smelt
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and bring gliscor against sand

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cyan smelt
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i'm not getting tilted after losses which is good

azure ether
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I'm running balance right now (Palafin, Incin, Sini, E-Floette, Mega Dnite, Kingambit)

cyan smelt
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i need to start bringing gliscor more

daring jungle
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Yeah, hard TR is definitely a big counter

cyan smelt
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scary face gambit, what are they cooking?

azure ether
daring jungle
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Maybe i add a slow mon to counter it?

cyan smelt
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ok this gambit is not trained properly

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cyan smelt
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they're running flash cannon on gambit

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i'm not at +6 on gambit

hollow latch
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so torkel would be a good guy for u team because it garantes u can substain ur weather

cyan smelt
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*now

hollow latch
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and venu really wants to be speed

daring jungle
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Ok, who would i swap for torkoal?

cyan smelt
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sneasler and gambit the goats

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except against sand

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azure ether
cyan smelt
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mega zard y and peli, what are they cooking?

daring jungle
hollow latch
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i feel like chomp has good synergy with garados, venus and charz too so ye

cyan smelt
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it does for sure

hollow latch
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but just try to switch some mons and see what works for u

daring jungle
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Aight

azure ether
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You can also try dropping Whims and put TW on your Zard instead

daring jungle
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That feels like a waste though

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Or is that just me

cyan smelt
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it feels really easy to predict megas

hollow latch
daring jungle
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No, having tailwind on zard

hollow latch
azure ether
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I mean what else are you clicking outside of Heat Wave under your own sun

cyan smelt
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gambit just OHKO a mega zard y with sucker punch

hollow latch
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but i dont think it has tailwind in champion

cyan smelt
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coaching boosted ofc

daring jungle
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I just hit a rain team

hollow latch
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maybe i am wrong

daring jungle
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Dnite, sneasler, pel, incin, arch and meow

cyan smelt
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and SD, and it ohko rotom

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the concept of bringing azumarill on a sun team when i have sneasler

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sneasler gambit just koed azu, zard y and rotom heat

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they're not giving up though

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still got mega kang in the back

azure ether
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what's the set on Kang btw

cyan smelt
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fake out, tect, drain punch, double edge

azure ether
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because I can't think of megas I wanna put in rain

cyan smelt
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champs might be goated yo

bronze quarry
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Can anyone help me figure out my last Pokemon for my trick room team..

daring jungle
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Aye, especially for those who wanted to get into competitive but couldnt sink the time into it

cyan smelt
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and the tutorials explain the basics really well

wild knot
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welp rolled a ninetales aurora veil setter locked

bronze quarry
wild knot
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sad no light clay

knotty mirage
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Question does bot only appear at lower tier or is it possible too get matchmaking agains't them om higher tier

cyan smelt
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is mega glimm just ass?

wild knot
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well it has adapabitly so

cyan smelt
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that's bonkers

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but it's slower than gliscor so rip ig

wild knot
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yeah i see people posting left over gliscor

cyan smelt
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gliscor is good, i might bring it into sand

daring jungle
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How does prankster interact with dark types?

cyan smelt
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fails

daring jungle
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Yet both tailwind and sunny day went up with 2 dark types on the field

cyan smelt
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it doesn't fail if it affects your side of the field only

daring jungle
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Ahh, ok

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Thats why i was confused

cyan smelt
daring jungle
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I thought dark types straight up stopped moves from working

cyan smelt
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three of your mons do not like dark types

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you could also run horoark as fast option

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good synergy with gard too because they both have hyper voice

azure ether
cyan smelt
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garg maybe?

daring jungle
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Only 37 more mega stones to buy (37,000 bp. Gulp)

bronze quarry
cyan smelt
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hisuian zoroark

daring jungle
cyan smelt
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but that's adding another dark type weakness

hollow latch
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sneasler

cyan smelt
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left field idea,how about hydrapple

hollow latch
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problem solved

bronze quarry
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In trick room..?

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Hydrapple 😭😭

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cyan smelt
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or araquanid for wide guard support

hollow latch
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its pretty slow

grim storm
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Anyone got a mega froslass team I can use for champions

hollow latch
cyan smelt
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just run it with a9 and chomp and mega delphox atm

bronze quarry
hollow latch
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u wanna play tr with a guy that doesnt benefit from it?

cyan smelt
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i wasn't expecting to enjoy champions this much

azure ether
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you can run two. not like you're bringing Garde every game

daring jungle
cyan smelt
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mega crab could lowk cook on tr

hollow latch
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ye

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just his stats work very good here

daring jungle
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Ive already spent 50k in the shop and 1 point off of reaching lv 21 in the battlepass

grim storm
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Is there a champions server?

daring jungle
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Probably

hollow latch
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can someone show me the command to see mega stats

azure ether
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even Golurk is good in TR

hollow latch
azure ether
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it's budget Ursaluna

cyan smelt
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golurk cannot beat sneasler gambit coaching sorry

hollow latch
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but ye

daring jungle
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Now, this seems like a bad idea, but how would one build a mono steel team for doubles or singles. I know megagross would be the mega to use

cyan smelt
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metagross not legal

daring jungle
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Hes not???

cyan smelt
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nope

hollow latch
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@bronze quarry just saying man. its helps ur typ coverage and works with ur team

daring jungle
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Did not even realise

cyan smelt
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sneasler gambit just deletes teams

bronze quarry
hollow latch
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hp, atk, defense

wild knot
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figuring out evs for sneaseler

hollow latch
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etc

daring jungle
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Its the stats in german i think

cyan smelt
hollow latch
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with 33 speed there isnt a single mon that can outspeed in tr (without any dumb stuff or prior move)

daring jungle
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Anyways, im off to sleep. Its nearly midnight here. Night all, thanks for the help

bronze quarry
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Alr everyone gave me different answers now im more confused 😭

cyan smelt
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go with the crab

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gives you another mega option

strange juniper
cyan smelt
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ty proton

hollow latch
cyan smelt
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crab solves that

hollow latch
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and the strongest guy being a guy that can abuse intim and get atk from it and can use prior move that hit hard u want something that deals with it

cyan smelt
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kang is so good against ghost types

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remind me to never mega when there's a ghost type on the field

red willow
#

Can you slot h arcanine on a balance team or is it better suited for other team types

bronze quarry
#

Idk she’s my fave legal mega so I just want to use her

cyan smelt
#

oh shit mega gallade has inner focus?

hollow latch
hollow latch
cyan smelt
#

i learnt a harsh lesson today

hollow latch
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so like many said before u can or should have a second mega if u cant cover all typs

bronze quarry
cyan smelt
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why did they remove dual wingbeat from gliscor, it has no good flying coverage now

hollow latch
cyan smelt
#

at least i know now mega gallade can't be faked out

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and it was in casuals too

red willow
#

Is sinistchea worth a slot on a balance team?

hollow latch
#

ik incin is good but i think u want a other mon that deals with king gambit

cyan smelt
#

waitttt i just realised something huge

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kang can fake out horoark

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muahahahahaha

hollow latch
#

he cant keep away with it

cyan smelt
#

he can fake out mega gengar and isn't affected by intim

red willow
#

Is politoad the only legal rain setter lmao

cyan smelt
#

peli

red willow
#

Oh i didnt see it scrolling mb

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Should I try a rain team with my boi

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Basculegion

cyan smelt
#

just remember that arch lost body press

hollow latch
wild knot
#

peliper is in the game good rain setter

hollow latch
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and politoad is the funny perish song guy

cyan smelt
#

mega gengar is good yo

wild knot
#

hmm alola ninetales + sneaseler last 4..

red willow
#

Ive never used sinistchea though does it still have the matcha thing?

wild knot
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matcha gotcha? yes

red willow
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Ah cool

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And was it ran on rain or sun teams I cant really remember lol

hollow latch
azure ether
#

Thoughts?

hollow latch
#

looks good for me. idk about gardevoir but having a second mega is definitly not bad

hollow latch
lost sun
hollow latch
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or low kick for gambit

azure ether
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Incin gets Low Kick? wtf

cyan smelt
#

gambit is my fav

hollow latch
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i think but nah u dont need it forgot ur playing earthquake but ye

red willow
#

Is zard y the sun guy

cyan smelt
#

yes

red willow
#

So prolly just that and not torkoal or ninetails as well dont need more than one

cyan smelt
#

yeah don't double up

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weather and weather abuser

red willow
#

Does mega venu still have chlorophyll?

wild knot
#

base venu has it

cyan smelt
#

i have SO MANY OPTIONS with this team

red willow
#

Right on Ill just code in chi yu and specs for sun

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Lmao jk

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What realistically hits hard in sun that is legal

cyan smelt
#

kangashkan melts hp bars

wild knot
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hmm

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alola ninetales as support... snealer idk who to add

cyan smelt
#

chomp

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mega delphox

wild knot
#

delphox?

cyan smelt
#

mega delphox has levitate so you can eq next to it

#

another option i've seen is rotom

hollow latch
cyan smelt
jade dust
wild knot
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other 3?

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well 2

cyan smelt
#

mega froslass

strange juniper
cyan smelt
#

i've also seen basc on snow in the past

jade dust
#

I spent a few hours trying to figure out what to use since the pool of available Pokemon in champions is pretty limited

wild knot
#

let me jot the team first

jade dust
#

Why is Mawile not in

cyan smelt
#

presumably later update

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along with half the items

hollow latch
wild knot
#

Alola tails
sneasler
mega fross?
Chomp
mega delphox?

cyan smelt
#

yep

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and maybe a basc or cheeky rotom

hollow latch
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if someone got a team for it let me know (for scarf hiusain typo)

wild knot
cyan smelt
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wash

wild knot
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i had a troll heat rotom in SV guess ill just switch form

jade dust
cyan smelt
#

wtf how does drampa hit so hard

jade dust
#

Maybe I’m cooking here

hollow latch
jade dust
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The crab is heavily invested in HP and Sp Def

hollow latch
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gonna try it out ^^

jade dust
#

116 atk evs and max HP and the rest spc def

jade dust
cyan smelt
#

my team cooks who wants to see it

jade dust
#

Me

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I originally had Swampert planed over Meganium

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But Swampert isn’t in the game

cyan smelt
#

ok ooof i actually have lost to some properly good teams

jade dust
wild knot
#

i cant wait just to spam blizzard to try get freeze

jade dust
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He’s very good imo

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And clusters trick room

lost sun
hollow latch
wild knot
#

i actually never caught one yet..

jade dust
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I caught mine in ZA

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0 speed btw

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Sadly doesn’t matter anymore lmfao

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Alpha and 0 speed ivs

cyan smelt
#

drampa is actually good

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cancels my weather, gotta watch out for it, plus it has flamethrower

lost sun
#

normal form?

cyan smelt
#

yeah

foggy lodge
wild knot
foggy lodge
#

😭

unreal hatch
#

what's the kangaskhan meta?

cyan smelt
#

i'm using it on balance but besides that have not seen it

bronze quarry
#

My friend just tried to get me to add maushold to my team 💀😭

wild knot
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idk to change evs for rotom. my troll set was the trick thunderwave etc

cyan smelt
#

@jade dust my team

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go into the train pokemon tab

jade dust
#

Interesting

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Gliscor in doubles?

cyan smelt
#

it's my check to sand

wild knot
#

should i leave the evs on rotom for wash ?
252 spa 252 speed

cyan smelt
#

nope you need more hp invest on it it's too frail

jade dust
cyan smelt
#

rotom is more trick/will-o-wisp support

wild knot
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i can switch for sure

cyan smelt
#

trick scarf then hit em with the hydro pump

wild knot
#

just figuring out hp bulk

cyan smelt
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turns out my team has way too many anti intim tools, hyper cutter, white herb sneasler, defiant and scrappy

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holy shit kangaskhan really melts hp bars

#

never thought i'd live to see the day where it's my skeledirge against aggron lmao

jade dust
#

Unseen fist is heavily nerfed right?

cyan smelt
#

yes

jade dust
#

1/4 damage through protect

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Urshifu might be done

cyan smelt
#

urshifu EXPOSED

wild knot
#

bold or modest for rotom?

jade dust
#

I think half damage was enough

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Modest is ok

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To be able to deal damage

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You can do something like 116 Sp Atk

#

Max hp and the rest on defenses

cyan smelt
#

rotom is meant to be offensive support anyway

#

your heavy hitters are chomp, delphox and froslass

jade dust
#

I need an alolan ninetales

cyan smelt
#

i might have a spare for you

jade dust
#

Crab could be fun in a snow team

cyan smelt
#

it's good to be able to use skeledirge and gambit again

bronze quarry
jade dust
#

Rn using it on rain which helps against fire types but snow is even better

cyan smelt
#

crabominable

jade dust
#

^

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I’m a crab believer

hollow latch
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shrek can vouch for it as an good guy for trick room

wild knot
#

volt switch
will
thunderbolt
hydro
what should i replace for trick

lost sun
#

probably switch

wild knot
#

or i should just use as stall with leftovers

cyan smelt
#

unless you want to pivot into something

cyan garnet
#

Can you use two Mega Evolutions in Champions?

jade dust
#

Yes

unreal hatch
#

yes, but not all of them

hollow latch
jade dust
#

I mean only one per battle

wild knot
scenic bear
#

Is eternal floette worth sending to champions? Or how good is it in the relative meta?

cyan smelt
#

it's got fairy aura

hollow latch
scenic bear
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Ty though

hollow latch
jade dust
#

Yeah true

hollow latch
#

and u could still put them back if i am right

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so try it out and see if it works for u ^^

scenic bear
cyan smelt
#

does whims retain encore?

lost sun
#

ye

cyan smelt
#

did they nerf dire claw? haven't poisoned once

wild knot
#

yes

cyan smelt
#

ok so sun looks to be a problem

scenic bear
#

I guess I'll also mention how I just love that battle bond/ash greninja can't be transfered to champions

/s

cyan smelt
#

i need to bring sneasler and gambit into sun

wild knot
cyan smelt
#

not worth changing it from unburden then

jade dust
lost sun
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nah it was 50

jade dust
#

How much for each status?

hollow latch
#

Which would 1/6

jade dust
#

Ah

#

Yeah that’s much higher than 10%

cyan smelt
#

ykw, i'm not raging at losing because this is fun

jade dust
#

I’m worried about the protect nerf

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8 PP is a big hit

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Half of what it had

cyan smelt
#

just attack more

jade dust
#

I mean you need to reposition or stall tailwind/trick room sometimes

hollow latch
jade dust
#

Pressure was pretty much always a worthless ability

#

But that could change

#

Pressure doesn’t affect protect tho

#

Only moves that target the pressure user

wild knot
#

right i need to bring a shiny fennekin from go

cyan smelt
#

gambit is a monster

wild knot
#

wait which za mons are eligible for a mega stone?

jade dust
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Meganium

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And the other starters

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That aren’t the gen 3 ones

wild knot
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i just need to nab em

cyan smelt
#

did blizzard get nerfed too? the freeze chance?

wild knot
#

let me check

#

says 10%. is that the same?

cyan smelt
#

i think so

#

what about matcha gotcha

wild knot
#

i dont have sinischa

#

says 20% burn chance on bulba idk about champions

cyan smelt
#

can you filter by generation

wild knot
#

only one for now

cyan smelt
#

i'm gonna check after this game on serebii

#

sneasler gambit tag team slays

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but not against sand

#

ok blizzard effect rate is 10% in sv, matcha gotcha is 20%, dire claw was 50%

#

i haven't enjoyed vgc like this in a long time

jade dust
#

I’m having fun playing

cyan smelt
#

what team did you decide on and where's vex and paul

torpid hearth
#

Okay cool finally have a farigaraf

cyan smelt
#

what's ur team vio

jade dust
cyan smelt
#

i forgot

jade dust
cyan smelt
#

looks good

jade dust
#

It’s fun for sure lol

#

But I’m winning so

#

Maybe I’m cooking

cyan smelt
#

how's the crab going for you

jade dust
#

Trick room mode

#

And against trick room as well

#

When the enemies have their own weather I lead with crab

cyan smelt
#

it's got 33 speed right

hollow latch
jade dust
#

And try to set trick room

cyan smelt
#

what do you do against zard

hollow latch
#

Almost the slowest guy in tr

jade dust
bronze quarry
#

If I build a snow team around mega frosslass/ninetales should I add a second mega..

cyan smelt
#

what if they have sunny day whims

bronze quarry
cyan smelt
#

i've seen it, it has levitate so garchomp can eq next to it

jade dust
#

I don’t have a Farig or I would use it lol

cyan smelt
#

mega delphox does i mean

bronze quarry
#

So garchomp and delphox in a snow team..

cyan smelt
#

garchomp benefits from aurora veil

hollow latch
cyan smelt
#

and deals with the fire and poison types that threaten a9

hollow latch
#

Snow many goal is to Set screen and Blizzard spamm

lost sun
unreal hatch
#

To be fair, the pokemon that don't benefit from aurora veil are staggeringly low

wild stream
#

what's a good anti froslass

cyan smelt
#

gambit

wild stream
#

Looks like it

unreal hatch
wild stream
#

Oh tyranitar could work

cyan smelt
#

excadrill

wild stream
#

More options that I thought

cyan smelt
#

rotom heat

#

scrappy kangaskhan can fake it out

red willow
#

Is primarina actually a decent option since we lost like 70 percent of other fairies lol

cyan smelt
#

primarina is good, haven't seen it yet tho but you might want to consider eternal floette

red willow
#

Im cobbling together a few teams from home of what i have lol

cyan smelt
#

i looooove skeledirge

#

damn, sunny day lasts 5 turns, gotta be wary of that

#

oh well that's what casual battles are for

unreal hatch
#

with no weather extending items, I guess weather did just get a little more consistently predictable...

cyan smelt
#

it's predicatable that they're gonna mega zard y or that they're going to go sunny day eruption but stopping it is another story

#

ok why does rotom frost look so big

dense latch
#

almost no one used weather extending items in vgc anyways

bronze quarry
cyan smelt
#

eternal floette is the go-to fairy i think

bronze quarry
#

Dam why

cyan smelt
#

fairy aura + moonblast

wild knot
#

Hey kalos

cyan smelt
#

sup

wild knot
#

since you play kang look above

cyan smelt
#

i'm confused what does this mean

unreal hatch
pearl wind
#

ugh teambuilding 😖

cyan smelt
#

guys i just realised that kangaskhan can't flinch from rock slide due to scrappy

#

this mon is superpowered

wide lichen
#

Not super great at building teams in VGC format yet, trying to build a M Audino team as a fun off meta team. You think it would be possible to make something that isn't horendously terrible?

tiny karmaBOT
versed river
#

you were thinking of inner focus

cyan smelt
#

oh i got confused mb

wild knot
cyan smelt
#

ohhhhh i see

versed river
foggy lodge
cyan smelt
#

go mega gengar

wide lichen
#

I thought Chimeco was on the list of ZA megas that weren't in game yet,

#

Good to know they're in

cyan smelt
#

i'm gonna bump the rby battle music every battle, such a bop

versed river
#

wonder if thats why loaded dice isnt in here

wild knot
#

yeah i saw that clip

cyan smelt
#

gliscor gets knock off, whyyyyyy

#

i feel like i should teach something knock off

wild stream
#

Ddarts is a hard move to program

#

like exceptionally hard

red willow
#

Is uh

cyan smelt
#

do you think i should teach sneasler a dark type move

red willow
#

Mega dnite decent on a balance team not sure what mega to use

cyan smelt
#

mega dnite seems like glue atp, it's gonna be good on most teams

wild stream
#

yeah

red willow
#

Ah igy

cyan smelt
#

should I teach gliscor knock off? i feel like the things it wants to hit are faster

red willow
#

Sneasler primarina incin mega dnite ?? and ?? Lol

cyan smelt
#

and gliscor is garbage into snow

red willow
#

Feel like I need a grass type for fwg core

#

Sinistchea maybe?

cyan smelt
#

how do i set my battle tag?

#

sneasler still melts hp bars

whole ibex
cyan smelt
#

it cancels my weather too

#

i lowk think it's worth it bringing a9 into it for the moonblast

whole ibex
#

Still robbed of Drizzle….

cyan smelt
#

gang i think champions may actually be peak

red willow
#

Im kinda bummed about alot of the missing items but the meta seems decent at a glance

#

Like no av is criminal lol

#

How is it in za but not the competetive game lmao

cyan smelt
#

no safety goggles and no covert cloak either

#

ykw what's awesome, i can drain punch basculegions with kang

#

and fake them out

red willow
#

I just wish my man metagross was legal now my shiny is just rotting in home lmao

cyan smelt
#

the only non-shiny on my team is kang

red willow
#

Shiny hunting kang seems like a pain too its not in the rifts so you cant donut it lol

whole ibex
cyan smelt
#

i can provide a rental of my team sure

wild stream
#

I remember seeing kang in an hs rift

cyan smelt
#

no rain and no av makes arch bearable

#

with the red and blue battle theme it makes battles a peak experience

wild stream
#

How much music is there?

wide lichen
#

I hunted drampa and phased twice with Khang

cyan smelt
#

rb, gsc, rse, frlg, dppt, hgss, b&w, x&y, oras, sm, lgpe, swsh, bdsp, sv and za battle themes

wide lichen
cyan smelt
#

with oras, hgss, and frlg trainer battles in the shop

#

praying for volo's theme

left bobcat
#

Wait what?

wide lichen
#

Oh Volo also has a good theme

wild stream
#

zinnia's is great

left bobcat
#

Did I miss something?

cyan smelt
#

volo's theme would go so hard

foggy lodge
#

To add to the encore controversy, if you encore a Mon into protect the priority of protect is immediately added and it moves next. In this clip I have tailwind up and my pelipper is scarf

Quoting Adi Subramanian (@adisubra)

If you encore a Pokemon into a move after it chooses a different move, it randomly selects the target. Per @NailsOU and @Doc_Dandy, if you encore it into an electric move, that move is NOT redirected by lightningrod if it picks the partner slot.

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wild stream
#

uh oh encore

cyan smelt
#

i'm getting used to my team

red willow
#

Whats a good last mon for sneasler primarina incin mega dnite and sinisthca

#

My first shot at a balance team lol

#

Maybe a second potential mega?

cyan smelt
#

mega sableye is actually kind of annoying

hollow latch
#

need some help with a sun hisu typho team

#

ivs are random

cyan smelt
#

incin

wild knot
hollow latch
#

or hisuian zoroak

hallow nova
#

Finally gonna try to get into competive pokemon for champions and was wondering if tyranitar, excadrill, and potential mega gengar are a good start for the team building process. Was looking at Gyarados and some other flying/intimate users to fill the team but I don't know what I like/what Im doing😅

cyan smelt
#

ttar and excadrill for sure

hollow latch
cyan smelt
#

add rotom and garchomp

wild knot
#

Try sheer cold for funsies

cyan smelt
#

watch out for mega sableye gang, it can get annoying

wild stream
#

How many hours before the meta becomes 10 pokemon

cyan smelt
#

gets knock off too

hallow nova
#

mega gengar in my mind just helps with some of the teams weaknesses and then tyranitar can cover for gengar as well

red willow
#

Does uh sinistcha really need tr if all my other mons are relatively fast and I have tailwind already?

#

Prolly not right?

cyan smelt
#

no it can be support with life dew

wild knot
hallow nova
#

But I am still considering mega tyranitar since its one of my favorites and makes him even more of a menace

red willow
#

Yeah I was thinking life dew plus hospitaililty could be annoying

#

If I get dnite back to full can multiscale trigger again?

cyan smelt
#

yes

red willow
#

Thats kinda silly

cyan smelt
#

also mega ttar def and not mega excadrill

hallow nova
cyan smelt
#

you can wisp things it's good

torpid hearth
#

Mowtom with trick and scarf is pretty funny

hallow nova
#

So tyranitar (mega), excadrill, garchomp, rotom-heat, gyrados, and then maybe corviknight?

cyan smelt
#

corv is ace on sand

#

vio what's ur team

torpid hearth
#

A mix of a lot of stuff rn

#

Only concrete members are dirge aggron and like maybe gyara

hallow nova
cyan smelt
#

yesssss a fellow dirge believer and yes corv is good in case you want tw

hallow nova
#

perfect tahnk you for the help

torpid hearth
#

Still trying to decide between sinischa and farigaraf for the support role

cyan smelt
#

gambit absolutely melts hp bars

ember jungle
#

Any good counters for Mega Dragonite?

torpid hearth
#

I gotta bring my shiny one in at some point

cyan smelt
bronze quarry
#

For mega crab trick room what is the moveset and EVS/nature..?

torpid hearth
#

I think i might go sinischa

wide lichen
#

I feel like the answer to any counter is gambit honestly

#

Hell even gambit could counter a gambit

torpid hearth
#

I like the macha gacha burn shit

cyan smelt
#

they still parting shot sneasler every time even with gambit

wild knot
torpid hearth
#

Oh good the cup gets strength sap my favorite move

#

No one will kill aggron (he will die to a special attack immediately)

cyan smelt
#

coaching sneasler next to gambit is ridiculously op

wild stream
#

every team needs to bring something to counter ohko strats

#

fake out or fast taunt

#

so not much changes

cyan smelt
#

oh hi zoomy

brittle harness
#

Looking to build an offense team, here's what I got so far for mons:

Alolan Ninetales
Mega Blast
Sneasler
Bellibolt

Looking for a 6th option cause I'm kinda drawing blanks on what to use
(This is for Singles btw)

#

Hi Kalos! I'm cooking!

cyan smelt
#

idt mega bax is in the game

brittle harness
#

Lemme check

#

Ugh

versed river
wild stream
#

It's telegraphed

brittle harness
#

Wow the IceIce pickings are garbage

cyan smelt
#

dnite is a problem

bronze quarry
brittle harness
hollow latch
#

any recommendations or tipps for it ^^

#

pretty new to sun and hisuian zoroak

torpid hearth
#

Okay i am at a loss. Someone much smarter than me tell me if i should run sinistcha or farig for my tr/support mon

hollow latch
#

but goal is to abuse its ability to change into whim and force fake outs

cyan smelt
#

is mega starmie any goood

wild knot
brittle harness
hollow latch
hollow latch
cyan smelt
#

so many delicious psychic type megas that i can destroy with gambit

bronze quarry
brittle harness
torpid hearth
#

Oh is mega gatr good

bronze quarry
bronze quarry
brittle harness
#

Also Thrash is TypeNormalNormal Type

bronze quarry
#

I can’t read Japanese and I was assuming off animation

brittle harness
cyan smelt
#

mega kang owns

torpid hearth
#

Fuck it i'm using the cup

brittle harness
cyan smelt
#

no

#

it gets circle throw

#

also stealth rocks might not be as good as you think without hdb zoomy

torpid hearth
#

I miss my boots

hollow latch
gentle cragBOT
torpid hearth
#

What will my volcarona do now

cyan smelt
#

i'm not missing tera at all

brittle harness