#competitive_discussion

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brisk crater
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Nasty plot blizzard is so gross

grand spire
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what did mega scrafty get

brisk crater
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Not in the game

sudden remnant
grand spire
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why do they know let u use the megas

sudden remnant
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what

lost sun
grand spire
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but arent the megas legal though

cyan smelt
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I hope joe posts a full list of available pokemon soon

sudden remnant
grand spire
brisk crater
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Overall champions is wuite good but idk about this wack ass meta

sudden remnant
grand spire
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bruh thats so dumb what

sudden remnant
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theyll be added soon enough im sure

lost sun
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holy king gambit is goated

cyan smelt
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Wait will mega froslass and a9 be good

lost sun
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just clutched a 1v3

sudden remnant
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i just wanna figure out how to connect my game to home so i can have my meowscarada

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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Oh they both do it

sudden remnant
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mega froslass has snow warning

lost sun
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I can't save replay rip

cyan smelt
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Gambit behind screens might be so tank

cyan smelt
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Ok so instead of pin missile body press i'll do gambit behind screens

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With the dirge maybe

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And mega dnite

sudden remnant
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i wanna try leafeon in the sun

tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
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chlorophyll 😄

cyan smelt
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Isn't leafeon budget venusaur

lost sun
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check it's moves

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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Ok budget hisuian lilligant

sudden remnant
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sure

cyan smelt
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Except you can't cc

sudden remnant
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what a tragedy that is 😑

supple latch
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So what do we think about the new abilities? I’m especially interested in @short meteor’s ability

sudden remnant
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we dont know them all yet 🙁

brisk crater
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Anyone got an extra delphox i can have

supple latch
prime ledge
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before I ask, does anyone here know vgc?

supple latch
sudden remnant
grand spire
dense latch
grand spire
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i havent kept up with it for a year now tho

sharp cobalt
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No gen 3 or 8 starters. Patrat is in

grand spire
supple latch
sharp cobalt
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Unless this list hasn't been updated yet...

cyan smelt
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Damn tpc really doesn't like the gen 8 starters

sudden remnant
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good riddance of rillaboom tbh

cyan smelt
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Nah rillaboom is good for the meta

supple latch
sudden remnant
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me when i lie

sharp cobalt
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They'll put it in eventually ngl, all starters bar these 2

prime ledge
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alright, im doing a natdex doubles tournament where the gimmick is that you have to choose a team of Pokemon that are majority one color. which color do yall think has the most potential?

cyan smelt
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U can't tell me u hate rilla more than incin

sudden remnant
sharp cobalt
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They told you pika

prime ledge
sudden remnant
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🤷‍♂️

cyan smelt
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Why? Incin has all the tools, intim, parting shot, fake out and great coverage

prime ledge
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saying this as an incin fan before intimidate

cyan smelt
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Rilla is monke

sudden remnant
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rilla is irritating

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at least with incin i know what im dealing with with rilla you never know until its too late

cyan smelt
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Then you should play ots

sharp cobalt
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Ponders whether ir not to transfer mons in

cyan smelt
supple latch
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I know Wolfey said that Incin doesn’t get Knock Off in Champions but he said it’s probably on his version which at the time was the demo, so now that Champions is out, does Incin not get Knock Off on this final version of the game?

sharp cobalt
cyan smelt
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Any

sharp cobalt
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Nnno

cyan smelt
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Incin probably had knock off removed seeing as arch got body press removed

supple latch
cyan smelt
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Yes, arch in ruins

supple latch
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Damn, at least there’s still the other option.

cyan smelt
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Yeah electro shot spam

sharp cobalt
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M Victreebels ability is such a letdown...

supple latch
cyan smelt
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I mean now at least it'll be slightly less of a nightmare to face

supple latch
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Yeah. Max defence body press was just dumb

cyan smelt
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Even with tera that shit was just unfun

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Gambit my goat perfectly balanced pokemon

sharp cobalt
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Headset Rotom

supple latch
cyan smelt
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So is there a full list anywhere of what's actually in?

lost sun
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there's one in game

cyan smelt
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Oh

lost sun
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check news

sharp cobalt
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But why is Patrat in xd

cyan smelt
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I will as soon as i get home and actually download it

cyan smelt
sharp cobalt
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Fair

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This tutorial is mean

dull ibex
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Should we drop dnite?

sudden remnant
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i enjoyed the tutorial especially the one with the old guy using an espeon

sharp cobalt
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It wouldn't let me blast the mons in the way I wanted sad

sudden remnant
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true

sharp cobalt
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'Click body slam happy '

stuck inlet
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However, free real estate in Mega Stones

sharp cobalt
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Me: furiously wanting to go down and press the SE move

charred hare
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Yo for champions, what’s a good substitute for Ursuluna?

cyan smelt
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I thought ursaluna was legal?

charred hare
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Nah it’s not in it

azure ether
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Man I wanted to use Monke's Coaching Infernape team, only to find out Rilla isn't legal and Band is gone

charred hare
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What a good substitute for it?

cyan smelt
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Oh so joe was wrong

charred hare
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Yup

finite vine
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What do quick coupons do in Champions? Just wondering

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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Only other guts user is flareon and flareon is ass because you're stuck with toxic orb

azure ether
finite vine
cyan smelt
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Well then you're stuck with heracross or machamp

sudden remnant
azure ether
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So many items have been cut in the format

finite vine
sudden remnant
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🙁

finite vine
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I guess it’s not working for everyone, probably too many people using it at once

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Also

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ARCHALUDON LOST BODY PRESS WHYYYYYYYYY

azure ether
cyan smelt
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No AV?

sudden remnant
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nope:(

finite vine
cyan smelt
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Is there black glasses so i can run my fav item on gambit

azure ether
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That's all we can use rn

sudden remnant
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🙁

cyan smelt
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Ok good i can run black glasses

azure ether
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Conk is legal

dull ibex
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what six are yall running for sun

azure ether
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But you have no way to proc it yourself since Flame and Toxic orbs aren't

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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Who should my screen setter be for gambit, i'm thinking meowstic so I can mega if needed

sudden remnant
azure ether
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You don't link through there

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It's in the main menu along with GO and Bank connectivity

lost sun
sudden remnant
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oh my god

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😭

manic marsh
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Anyone know the requirements for a pokemon to be eligible for transfer to champions? trying to transfer some pokemon I caught in swsh and it won't let me lol

sudden remnant
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fully evolved and need to be available in champions

manic marsh
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I mainly want to bring my shiny metagross, I'm sure he's in the game

torpid hearth
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He is not

cyan smelt
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He's not legal yet

manic marsh
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whatt

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alright then thanks

torpid hearth
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You will have to live with the true goat aggron

manic marsh
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😔

sudden remnant
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what are these incineroar evs

cyan smelt
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(i say being a massive gambit fan)

torpid hearth
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Ah but you see i am using mega aggron

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We get filter and a 2x weakness

solid frigate
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Mega Aggron is like barely usable

Just use it like a weaker Zamazenta

patent marten
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Does anyone have a full list of the new mega abilities?

neat kayak
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So hows champions?

torpid hearth
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Body press and heavy slam yeah lol

sudden remnant
patent marten
sudden remnant
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true

neat kayak
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Is uh
Mega falinks good

sudden remnant
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🤷‍♂️

lost sun
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don't think it's in

neat kayak
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Damn
I just remembered it came out today
I got persona 3 reload instead

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Because my mom let me grab smth for my birthday coming up this Thursday

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I was curious on trying it out but people on social media are saying champions is bad

azure ether
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Not necessarily the game is bad. More like the current regulation is.

neat kayak
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Oh wait
It's made by ILCA.

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that, really says all I need to know...

torpid hearth
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It's at worst fine lmao

lost sun
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but I am missing 3 items

azure ether
cyan smelt
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So can i now practice this format on sd or should i just leap right into champions

lost sun
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just go in

azure ether
cyan smelt
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I think screens gambit seems like a good starting point

torpid hearth
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If feels like no one has any teams yet lol

azure ether
finite vine
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Does Gengar still keep perish song? Lol

cyan smelt
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Gross dual steel types no ty

torpid hearth
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The strggle is real kalos

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I feel you

cyan smelt
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Maybe friend guard instead

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Maushold, gambit, skeledirge

torpid hearth
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Oh yeah clef is in the game right?

azure ether
cyan smelt
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Sleep powder might be fun

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Set up sd

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Idk, redirection or sleep powder/hurricane

torpid hearth
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Wait, dammit can i not bring clefairy in lol

azure ether
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You only need to worry about the braindead t1 mega zard y + chloro venu mach 3 sleep powder

cyan smelt
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I always hated maushold so i'm gonna use goggles maushold

azure ether
cyan smelt
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Oh shit

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Screens might lowkey be better then

torpid hearth
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I need a good tr setter

azure ether
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You just gotta endure the fast sleep powders

cyan smelt
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I was thinking tr gambit

azure ether
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Fari is in the game, so there's that

cyan smelt
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Waitttt

sudden remnant
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so is my goat hatterene

cyan smelt
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Sap sipper farig

azure ether
cyan smelt
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Ok i'm cooking

azure ether
sudden remnant
azure ether
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But can we live the Drought boosted Zard Y attack

cyan smelt
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Fake it out and set tr

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The classic

torpid hearth
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Might steal that

cyan smelt
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Mega aggron loves tr

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Wait aggron is just mono steel

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Mega aggron

sudden remnant
torpid hearth
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Yes indeed it is

cyan smelt
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With filter?

torpid hearth
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Mhm

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Unless it was changed

cyan smelt
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That's actually kinda good for tr

torpid hearth
cyan smelt
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Does it still get rock moves

torpid hearth
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Yes

cyan smelt
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Might be lowkey good for the mega zard y spam

azure ether
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So our lead against Zard is Incin Fari then?

cyan smelt
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Incin seems to be the only fake out user around right

torpid hearth
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It would be very funny if aggron still had dragon tail but alas

azure ether
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We got Kang

cyan smelt
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Oooh mega kang

torpid hearth
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Oh shit yeah

cyan smelt
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I want to use that, is it too fast for tr?

azure ether
torpid hearth
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It has 90 speed

cyan smelt
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Heck yeah mega kang

azure ether
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You're underspeeding it fosho

cyan smelt
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Even with parental bond nerfed that's the play

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Now i'm salivating at the thought of parental bond double edge

torpid hearth
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Oh god

cyan smelt
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Or giga impact

azure ether
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How about regular Scovillain as lead with Fari

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You Sleep Powder the Zard

cyan smelt
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Punishes sun, could work

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And spicy extract on gambit with clam

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Sleep powder zard, next turn overheat venu

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Is mega scovillain gonna be any good?

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Does it keep chlorophyll?

molten oasis
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Incin boutta have like 80% usage guys

narrow lily
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Anyone got a megadragonite team to send me c:?

shadow wind
sudden remnant
azure ether
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Yea we don't have to commit the mega on Scov tbh

solar fiber
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I call dibs on Oranguru Golurk

azure ether
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It's just there for the zard y + venu lead

sudden remnant
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how come my goat mienshao isnt in the game nintendo might just hate me

molten oasis
patent marten
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|| mega chande ability is fucking infiltrator my life is ruined forever ||

shadow wind
shadow wind
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Got me using a pen and paper 😭😭

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Like the good old days

foggy lodge
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Lum berry has not activates once lol

patent marten
# sudden remnant ?

It’s my favorite mon I was hoping it would get something a lil cooler :(((

shadow wind
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Has pretty low base hp already

foggy lodge
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Probably

shadow wind
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Aura sphere or moonblast on mega Garde

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Hmmm

ivory girder
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How does magic bounce work if all mons on field have it and someone uses a status move?

shadow wind
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Then it fails?

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Like the move not magic bounce

dusky umbra
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Does hatterene work for this team? Farigaraf, Incineroar, Torkoal, Mega Charizard Y, Venusaur

shadow wind
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I mean I don’t know what it would even be doing

azure ether
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A secondary mega might be better (?)

dusky umbra
ivory girder
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Does Champions want paid Home? I canceled my yearly subscription cause money and I’m wondering if I can only access the basic box

azure ether
dusky umbra
lost sun
shadow wind
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I don’t even have access to Aegislash but I’ll find a way

dusky umbra
shadow wind
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No real damage boosting items is so limiting

dusky umbra
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Nevermind it’s not even in the game

azure ether
shadow wind
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Yeah no lorb or even an expert belt is killing the damage

torpid hearth
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Given the items we do have i'm kinda surprised expert belt isn't in

solid frigate
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This game is horrible in release and it’s so overblown that it’s justified atp

azure ether
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I wonder if Kommo-o is good against the Zard-Y Venu teams

brisk crater
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Golurk has unseen fist😭

brisk crater
cyan smelt
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Golurk has what?

fringe fossil
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The lack of items is definitely annoying but who knows game has only been out for what like 4 hrs I’m sure more items will come back eventually

brisk crater
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Already great ball 2

fringe fossil
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Yeah definitely a large blinder on them. The limited Pokemon is also interesting

brisk crater
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Bouta be ultra rank

brisk crater
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Frosslass is mt personal favorite

fringe fossil
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Yea I’m running mega gengar rn cuz I rly like perish trap and wanna see how far it can get me but I’ll definitely play around with some of the new ones eventually

fringe fossil
fallen garden
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What's mega froslass ability

torpid hearth
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Snow warning

cyan smelt
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Is it game changing that mega golurk has unseen fist

fallen garden
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Unseen fist has a damage nerf

cyan smelt
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How does gambit, sap sipper farig and mega kang in tr sound

brisk crater
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It does like tickle damage

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Ushibum is COOKED

cyan smelt
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Urshifu is washed now

torpid hearth
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Old man needs to retire

cyan smelt
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Archaludon should also retire atp

torpid hearth
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Hey he still has the rain and electro shot

fringe fossil
cyan smelt
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He's a bum without body press

fringe fossil
torpid hearth
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I am really enjoying mega aggron and moxie gyarados

cyan smelt
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Do u ever mega gyarados

torpid hearth
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Ehh no

azure ether
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What does it hold? Figy?

radiant bolt
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Anyone else have problems sending mons from home to champ ?

azure ether
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Nvm confusion berries aren't even here

torpid hearth
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Honestly i just had it holding sitrus or lefties because there is nothing else

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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Is gyarados good against venu zard

torpid hearth
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No clue haven't run into that yet

solid frigate
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You literally don’t have a flying move so not really

cyan smelt
torpid hearth
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Somehow

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One day gyara will get a flying move

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For now i deal with ice fang

cyan smelt
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You will have hurricane and you will like it

azure ether
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Uhh where does it say that Unseen Fist is nerfed?

foggy lodge
torpid hearth
foggy lodge
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@bold geode well i was right that we had to learn the weakness berries

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I didn't think it would be like this but i was right

azure ether
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Are we sure it's nerfed or is it just because Golurk is mid

torpid hearth
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Who the hell is ever going to run oran

shadow wind
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Unseen fist is nerfed

cyan smelt
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Is magnet archaludon about to be a thing since no AV

shadow wind
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25% through protects now

torpid hearth
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God we really are in the dark ages again

shadow wind
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Yes

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Except Incineroar is the light to lead us

knotty mirage
shadow wind
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Pretty much yeah

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But Golurk is very mid with it

torpid hearth
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No, quick claw slowbro shall lead us all to salvation

shadow wind
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Eq and poltergeist don’t work with it

knotty mirage
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But even then protect also technicaly been nerfed anyway

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Only 8 Times usage

shadow wind
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Big stall rejoices

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Although no more toxic orb Gliscor

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But also no more hdb so death to big stall

cyan smelt
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So the full list of what's legal is in the news section?

shadow wind
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Yup

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And the mega stones you can buy are the ones that are legal right now

torpid hearth
shadow wind
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So no mega manectric 😔😔😔

cyan smelt
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Any mega glimm

shadow wind
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Yeah he’s in

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Not sure if he has usage though

torpid hearth
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Cannot believe i need to run scarf manetric

knotty mirage
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Wait does this mean eerie spell and spite can be useful now

lost sun
cyan smelt
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Is that my answer to big venu zard

shadow wind
azure ether
shadow wind
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Sleep is also nerfed

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And para

torpid hearth
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Thank god

foggy lodge
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why is the rocky helmet on the menu icon if its not in the game bro this is just egregious😭😭😭

torpid hearth
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Because fuck you that's why

cyan smelt
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The pokemon works, no it fucking doesn't

knotty mirage
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Is galarian slowking available now ?

torpid hearth
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We all need to learn to embrace the chaos

shadow wind
cyan smelt
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Incineroar will centralise the meta

azure ether
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Which regional will play Champions?

knotty mirage
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At least with no life orb we can say mega feraligatr is better than base form for now

torpid hearth
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I love the oran berry so much (why the hell is it in this game)

cyan smelt
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Because fuck you that's why

torpid hearth
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Now you get it

cyan smelt
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Oran berry incin new meta

torpid hearth
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I am glad that hydrapplen has been left untainted by this mess

cyan smelt
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Hydrapple my goat

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Hydrapple and kingambit my goats

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I lowkey want to try sap sipper farig with kang and gambit

torpid hearth
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Oh cool we can get four armed freak now

cyan smelt
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Is that machamp

torpid hearth
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Yes

cyan smelt
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Washed

torpid hearth
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Send his ass back to gen 1

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No one has ever used machamp

cyan smelt
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Nobody has ever used a lot of gen 1 mons

torpid hearth
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True

cyan smelt
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Gen 1 the most overrated gen

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At least quick claw quick draw glowbro is in, that's my meme pick

torpid hearth
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Yessir

cyan smelt
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You can tell i'm still stuck in like gen 9.5

torpid hearth
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I never left gen 8 bro

cyan smelt
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In my mind gen 8 competitive was perfect

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No sneasler, no archaludon

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Any mon could dmax

torpid hearth
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I do miss it

cyan smelt
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Zacian was not washed

azure ether
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Rinya sun my beloved

torpid hearth
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That i do not miss

cyan smelt
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Groudon was not washed

torpid hearth
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But i do miss the clicking the insta win button

cyan smelt
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Max airstream from lando was scary

torpid hearth
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I used the hell out of kyurem black at one point

cyan smelt
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I forget what i used but i def used gorsola and dialga lunala at one point

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When will day 1 usage stats be published

next dust
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Anyone know if there is a list I can find of pokemon I can move into champions?

sudden remnant
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some poor guy just got stalled by an umbreon

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it was 3 to 1 and my goat held on long enough to draw

cyan smelt
sudden remnant
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snarl moonlight leftovers and high bulk investment

cyan smelt
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r u running toxic on that

sudden remnant
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no

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UMBREON IS SO FUCKING GOATED

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i won another game cuz they apparently felt threatened by my umbreon and left my zoroark-H alone too long

cyan smelt
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woah i did a switch system update and they got rid of the pinwheel thing for the system lock, that's huge

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what was horoark disguised as

sudden remnant
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manectric

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lol

cyan smelt
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how's manectric doing

sudden remnant
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amazing surprisingly

cyan smelt
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do i buy the starter bundle

sudden remnant
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wish i had better coverage than snarl and hyper voice though

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flamethrower is putting in work i gotta say

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and i click hypervoice for funny double kos

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(its already happened 3 times and ive only done like 8 games so far)

cyan smelt
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uh oh if i face a manectric i gotta watch out for the overheat into gambit don't I

sudden remnant
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absolutely

cyan smelt
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is the starter bundle worth it

sudden remnant
sudden remnant
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idk if its necessary but ive found it helpful

cyan smelt
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meh it's only $10.50 i'd say that's pretty decent

sudden remnant
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its only 7 for me

cyan smelt
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aussie currency is hot doo doo

sudden remnant
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am i cooking

cyan smelt
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yes

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i'd say if it's working for you you're cooking

sudden remnant
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its working so well

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have had to edit a couple things for certain matchups

cyan smelt
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ykw i'm purchasing the starter bundle so i can get my gambit in

sudden remnant
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but otherwise its been amazing

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might swap hatterene out for lopunny

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hatterene hasnt done much for me yet

cyan smelt
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ooooh mega lopunny

sudden remnant
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yeah

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also scrappy fake out

cyan smelt
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goodbye golurk?

sudden remnant
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does lopunny get triple axel

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i imagine it would

cyan smelt
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yes i believe so

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it looks like tsareena so it's logical it would get it

sudden remnant
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affirmative it gets triple axel

cyan smelt
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BYE BYE GOLURK

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U R WASHED

sudden remnant
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hold please gotta get the lopunnite

cyan smelt
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did u import ur alpha lopunny from PLA

knotty mirage
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Question does EV from mainline pokemon games transfer too champions ?

sudden remnant
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yes

knotty mirage
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Wait really so you can just build pokemon on mainline games and then send it too Champions

cyan smelt
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i gotta admit, i was feeling pretty jaded with vgc but i am hyped to play champions

knotty mirage
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Huh what's thing that doesn't get transfered too champions

cyan smelt
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what rank are you and what mons have you seen the most of

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sorry i feel like you're getting bombarded with questions now lol

sudden remnant
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pokeball still ive only played 8 or 9 games

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and ive mostly seen hydreigon

cyan smelt
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uh oh that's gonna be a problem for gambit and farig

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ez fake out with kangshkan

sudden remnant
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rip zoroark

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im getting blizzard spammed rn

cyan smelt
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mega froslass?

sudden remnant
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and vanilluxe yes

cyan smelt
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oh god not the ice cream

sudden remnant
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send help 😭

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luckily umbreon is just that guy and hasnt been frozen

cyan smelt
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if there's blizzard spam around i should really pack a skeledirge

sudden remnant
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UMBREON YOURE SO GOATED

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my umbreon has tanked 4 blizzard

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and is still only in the yellow

cyan smelt
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that is one bulky mfer

sudden remnant
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chonky boi

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and now im back to green health

cyan smelt
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how much did moonlight recover even with snow active

sudden remnant
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a lot

cyan smelt
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what's the calcs for moonlight recovery, least in rain, most in sun right?

sudden remnant
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yeah

cyan smelt
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umbreon forever the best most goated eeveelution

sudden remnant
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ate 4 blizzards and healed all the way back to full without getting frozen

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insanity

cyan smelt
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what a tank

sudden remnant
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with lefties not av btw

cyan smelt
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what's it doing in return besides snarl chip though

sudden remnant
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putting stuff to sleep or forcing switches with yawn

cyan smelt
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oh rightttt i forgot it yawns

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do you think i should trial yawn skeledirge along the same lines

sudden remnant
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3 v1 against an incin i think i win

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i got umbreon meowscarada and manectric still

cyan smelt
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ehhhh two dark types idk

sudden remnant
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and its hurting itself with flare blitz

cyan smelt
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incin users sometimes rely on it as a crutch don't they

sudden remnant
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AND UMBREON GETS THE KO LETS GOOOOOOO

cyan smelt
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bye incin

sudden remnant
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i got moonlight yawn snarl and foul play

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umbre ended it with a foul play

cyan smelt
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was incin just flare blitzing into umbreon

sudden remnant
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yeah lmao

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completely ignoring the meowscarada smacking it either flower trick

cyan smelt
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style points for chipping incin with flower trick

sudden remnant
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i was choice scarf i didnt have a choice

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i used flower trick to kill the vanilluxe and froslass and was locked into it against the incin

cyan smelt
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wow there really aren't any items in this game huh, choice scarf meowscarada is not ideal

sudden remnant
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idk bro it works just fine

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oh god im against a mega dnite sand team

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HOLY SHIT MEOWSCARADA

cyan smelt
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uh oh i need to prep for sand teams

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i lowk don't know what to do against them if i'm running farig and gambit

sudden remnant
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i just did 90% to the ttar

cyan smelt
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holy shit based meowscarada

sudden remnant
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in sand btw

cyan smelt
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oh ttar gets def boost in sand right?

sudden remnant
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samd doesnt affect defense

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ir affects special defense

cyan smelt
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oh right

sudden remnant
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but still

cyan smelt
#

champions still downloading bruh

sudden remnant
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goddamn meow you cooked em

cyan smelt
#

good thing they didn't send out mega dragonite t1

sudden remnant
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this is not looking good for me

sudden remnant
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it was dnite ttar lead

cyan smelt
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uh oh ur cooked

sudden remnant
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dnite is dead

cyan smelt
#

how?

sudden remnant
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manectric killed it

cyan smelt
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with what?

sudden remnant
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tbolt

cyan smelt
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lmfao i thought that did neutral

sudden remnant
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it does

cyan smelt
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is mega dnite actually just washed lmao

sudden remnant
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zoroark broke multiscale with icy wind

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and then manectric nuked it woth tbolt

cyan smelt
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i'm thinking i'm gonna need something with a play rough or moonblast

sudden remnant
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UMBREOONNNNNN GET EMMMMMMM

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WOOOOOOOOO

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UMBREON THE GOATTTTTTTTTTTT

cyan smelt
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they need to add replays in this game soon because i want to witness this

sudden remnant
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I BEAT THE SCARY SAND TEAM

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UMBREON I LOVE YOU

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also it ate that dazzling gleam like it was nothing holy

cyan smelt
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u need to build this team around the umbreon because it seems like the mvp

sudden remnant
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umbreon took like 30 damage from a gengar dazzling gleam

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💀

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ate thet for breakfast

cyan smelt
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seems like all the megas that you've faced are just washed lmao

sudden remnant
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nah umbreon is just too powerful

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also no one expects it cuz its generally considered not a good pokemon

cyan smelt
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have u faced any fighting types yet

sudden remnant
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im gonna show yall how good this little gremlin cat is

cyan smelt
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because something with scrappy might make ur day hell

sudden remnant
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umbreon ate 4 and still didnt die

cyan smelt
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holy goated

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is armarouge washed now that it can't do power herb meteor beam anymore

sudden remnant
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idk it just kept aura sphere’ing my cat

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completely ignored my mega manectric

cyan smelt
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wait is indeedee in this game

sudden remnant
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uhhhhh idk havent seen one yet

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ive seen a LOT of farigirafs tho

cyan smelt
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ok good, so i can still sucker punch the armarouge

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that might be trouble for gambit

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ykw i think sap sipper farig is too niche and i might just go armour tail

sudden remnant
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alright i got 2 physical attackers 2 special attackers and 2 supports

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meowscarada and lopunny manectric and zoroark and whimsicott and umbreon

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icl though umbreon is carrying rn

cyan smelt
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farig, gambit, kangaskhan, what else should i use for tr

sudden remnant
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chonk central is just that guy

cyan smelt
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i need another mega

sudden remnant
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i'm gonna see what's legal and see if anything leaps out at me

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vibes based gaming

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oh god no palafin is in

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asking me for my birth month and year, yes hello i was just born today

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looked at the legality list indeedee is not here

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ig i went with the right evs for my umbreon huh

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i went 20 hp 14 defense and 32 special defense with a calm nature

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maybe i should swap bitter malice on zoroark for hex to synergize with umbreons yawn

charred hare
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Does anyone have a 2v2 team for champions I could copy?

sudden remnant
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huh?

cyan smelt
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have u seen any dozos yet

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my avatar looks so sick yo

sudden remnant
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seen 3 gengars

cyan smelt
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they cooked with this soundtrack

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bro why does he have body slam on charizard

sudden remnant
sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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why does he have fire punch and fly and flamethrower the only special move

sudden remnant
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maybe he wanted a mega zard x and didnt wanna run dragon claw

charred hare
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Does anyone have a good 2v2 team I could use??

sudden remnant
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you mean. a doubles team?

cyan smelt
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also furthermore why does he have meganium on his team

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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sorry vro meganium was never good

sudden remnant
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ive been a chikorita fan since playing silver dont tell me if my dinosaur is good or not

cyan smelt
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do u think mega pidgeot will be any good

sudden remnant
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no

charred hare
sudden remnant
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pidgeot sucks ass

cyan smelt
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i'm a genwunner and will not tolerate pidgeot slander

sudden remnant
sudden remnant
charred hare
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No I mean a team that ppl have that’s good that I can replicate

cyan smelt
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agree to disagree then lol

sudden remnant
charred hare
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Calm the farm

cyan smelt
#

roster ranch reminds me of paniola ranch in USUM

charred hare
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No need to get angry

sudden remnant
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you should join my umbreon agenda

sudden remnant
charred hare
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U

sudden remnant
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?????

sudden remnant
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kalossssss join the umbreon agenda 🗣️ 🔥

cyan smelt
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sorry already gonna lock in on gambit tr

sudden remnant
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so i have 2 dark types

cyan smelt
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in ur case they are complimentary

sudden remnant
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meowscarada and umbreon have a very odd synergy

cyan smelt
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because one is fast and one is slow

sudden remnant
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i wish we had physical fake tears

cyan smelt
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screech

tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
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oh well look at that

cyan smelt
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i wonder if anyone have just gone with a team from the auto-builder lol

tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
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dammit

cyan smelt
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i have a feeling if u choose a strong first pokemon it will auto-select good pokemon

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bruh why do i have to go through all this tutorial stuff like single battles etc

sudden remnant
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what if i select umbreon and let it autoselect from that

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😁

cyan smelt
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umbreon is ur mvp, do it

sudden remnant
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he truly is

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hes clutched so many games singlehandedly

cyan smelt
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nobody expects umbreon

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also wow the animations look good in this game

sudden remnant
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wait the team actually doesnt change much from what im already using

cyan smelt
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which means ur a goated teambuilder

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this game is giving me stadium flashbacks

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in a good way

sudden remnant
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i think that’s the point

cyan smelt
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i love the draco meteor animation, could watch it all day

sudden remnant
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havent seen it yet

cyan smelt
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ok so i think ttar is the new default knock off user

sudden remnant
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umbreon

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also ttar got mogged by my meowscarada ttar who

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ttar? whos that guy never heard of em

cyan smelt
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don't tell conner that

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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u need to get a capture card stat twin

sudden remnant
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true i do

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i gotta spread the umbreon agenda

cyan smelt
#

woah caraway sure is cute

sudden remnant
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i agree they did a very good job with her design

cyan smelt
#

kajima reminds me of professor kukui's wrestling alter ego

sudden remnant
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true

cyan smelt
#

i'm getting good vibes from this game

sudden remnant
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whats crazy is i kept doubting myself picking manectric as my mega

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and here we are and im absolutely cooking rn

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out of 9 games ive only lost 1 and ended another in a draw

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i really wish the mental herb was in the game

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and wheres my covert cloak

sudden remnant
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anyways moral of the story manectric im sorry for doubting you

azure ether
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If anyone played a Sinistcha vs Sinistcha stallfest end game here a few minutes ago, I'm so sorry for taking your time

cyan smelt
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did u doubt umbreon too

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i just got the omni ring lesssgooooo

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eligible pokemon, lmao who is using 3/4 of these

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yessssss my goat gliscor, who needs clam when you have hyper cutter

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what's mr rime doing here bruh

sudden remnant
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just the electric dog

cyan smelt
#

vex do u think i should try gliscor

sudden remnant
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yes

cyan smelt
#

wait what if no farig but i go gambit, gliscor, sneasler

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and just go full tilt balance

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kangaskhan for fake out/mega

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then two special attackers

sudden remnant
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as Karen of the elite 4 once said “Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites."

cyan smelt
#

ew the karen quote

sudden remnant
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its true though

cyan smelt
#

ik, i can use my goat primarina

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there's 5/6

sudden remnant
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did i tell you i cheesed a game using only whimsicott and zoroark disguised as meowscarada

cyan smelt
#

how?

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also what do you think of gambit, gliscor, sneasler, kangskhan, prim, volc

sudden remnant
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whim has moonblast encore stun spore and tailwind and zoroark has psychic bitter malice detect and icy wind

cyan smelt
#

hilarious

cyan smelt
#

thinking of a 6th is always hard for me

graceful scaffold
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Hi kalos

cyan smelt
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hi meme what's the latest ragebait

sudden remnant
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i had dark pulse instead of detect at that time and i para flinched their steelix with stun spore and dark pulse

graceful scaffold
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Wanna teach me vgc?

cyan smelt
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it's a completely new format, just pick ttar, excadrill mega dnite and you'll do fine

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my latest ragebait is that champions is actually...good?

cyan smelt
#

ehhhhhhh 3 fighting weaknesses not so good

sudden remnant
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i have 3 fairy weaknesses

cyan smelt
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waitttttt, i have my 6th for the balance team

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a9

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it's perfect

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moonblast, icy wind, encore, protect

sudden remnant
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no aurora veil?

cyan smelt
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oh right i did say gambit behind screens would cook

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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aurora veil, blizzard, moonblast, protect

sudden remnant
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peak

cyan smelt
#

so we have, gambit, gliscor, kangaskhan, sneasler, a9, and what else

graceful scaffold
#

My first ever team I've made is ttar, chomp, corvettes for tailwind which usually goes last lol, incin coz hes funny, paladin coz i know its good, and mega gard

cyan smelt
#

go ttar, chomp, excadrill, corv, mega dnite

graceful scaffold
#

Could be worse but yeah throwing together my favourites and stuff I know is good is stupid af

cyan smelt
#

and then incin

sudden remnant
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and umbreon

graceful scaffold
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Lol

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And castform

cyan smelt
#

bro's become a ride or die for umbreon

sudden remnant
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true

cyan smelt
#

ok, so

cyan smelt
#

a9, gambit, sneasler, kang, gliscor, how about skeledirge?

sudden remnant
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i mean why not

cyan smelt
#

bulky mon + recovery + screens + torch song

graceful scaffold
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Trying to do rock slide flinches, and kinda making a gambling fun team thingy. No metronome sadly

cyan smelt
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meme look up popular sand teams from reg h v2.0 and use that for inspo

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you can't use indeedee sadly but you can use sneasler

sudden remnant
graceful scaffold
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Is there any guides for team building and choosing your 6 mons for dummies

cyan smelt
graceful scaffold
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Im probably too dumb for that lol

cyan smelt
#

from wolfey, aaron cybertron zeng and other goats

sudden remnant
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wolfey? BE_MoonLurk

cyan smelt
#

wolfey wrote parts of vgcguide

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it was his idea iirc

sudden remnant
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hes posting content every day for the month of april in celebration of the launch of champions

cyan smelt
#

goated

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no patreon paywall?

sudden remnant
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it will all be on youtube

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bonus stuff will be on patreon though supposedly

cyan smelt
#

say sike rn

sudden remnant
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youd think with how much i idolize the guy id have subscribed to his patreon by now

cyan smelt
#

never pay for content that you can otherwise get for free

#

for legal reasons i do not condone piracy

sudden remnant
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lmao

cyan smelt
#

meme did i scare u off

sudden remnant
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anyways no hes actually posting daily videos on youtube

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with bonus stuff on patreon

cyan smelt
#

do you think it's fine if i just have the one mega slot (kang)

sudden remnant
#

on that note im going to sleep its 6:30 in the morning

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
#

is there a place to drop friend codes so we can all add each other for practice battles and such

graceful scaffold
#

Oh thats a good udes

cyan smelt
#

oh good i didn't scare you off

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i bet that guy will be running ttar lycanroc in champions

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bwahacough my goat always stuck to ttar lycanroc

graceful scaffold
#

Ttar buddies

cyan smelt
#

conner idolises bwahacough because he loves ttar too and bwahacough always did well with it

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ok i need to track down my skeledirge and a9

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oh god i remember what put me off shiny hunting, going 393 for jumbo lapras i think it was?

solid frigate
#

W h a t

cyan smelt
#

yup i got 3 rare marks before i got the jumbo

#

idk how to ev gliscor tbh

formal parrot
#

Did I just see my own focus sash go off at full hp

wild knot
#

Yeah

formal parrot
#

What in the fuck lmao

wild knot
#

It might be a visual bug lmaooo

#

Is this what happened?

cyan smelt
#

so no idea how to ev kangashkhan and gliscor

supple latch
cyan smelt
#

please tell me fake out is a tm or whatever in champions

wild knot
#

Dang

cyan smelt
#

oh crap the espeon used dazzling gleam in this doubles tutorial

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oh it wasn't even a full battle

#

@graceful scaffold honestly go through the tutorials, it makes vgc easier to understand than reading vgcguide

compact sail
#

SHE GETS WHAT!?!?!

cyan smelt
#

good thing that monster isn't legal in reg m-a

chrome knot
#

im p sure it is?

cyan smelt
#

is it part of the z-a dex

compact sail
#

Eternal Floette is given as a gift in the postgame

cyan smelt
#

omfg it is legal in reg m-a

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meme you'd better add an excadrill to your team in case you encounter eternal floette

compact sail
#

"I heard I’m UBERS broken now?"

graceful scaffold
cyan smelt
#

there's no penalty for failing so just build a team, try it out, see which mons are working and which aren't, see what attacks you're dying to and whether it's worth ev investment to live etc

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but ttar excadrill is always solid

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also talk to conner about ttar when he's online he'll help

hollow latch
ripe grail
#

Vgc being p2w is crazy

#

Not having za is already a disadvantage now wow

cyan smelt
#

it already was if you wanted to compete in tournaments or play when dlc is released

ripe grail
#

I did think of finally competing

I was doing really well in SV

#

But idk now

supple latch
cyan smelt
#

fwiw it's free to start and you get generous rewards on starting

supple latch
cyan smelt
#

i will never miss tracking down pokemon for materials for tms though

ripe grail
#

Which mons are looking dangerous rn you reckon?

supple latch
#

It’s actually very funny how Floette gets Xerneas’s ability

wild knot
#

welp time to get my floette from urbain

supple latch
gentle cragBOT
cyan smelt
#

can't go wrong with dnite, weather will always be strong, gengar might be good

ripe grail
#

Esp with this floette around

compact sail
ripe grail
#

Can't go wrong w aegis

supple latch
supple latch
cyan smelt
#

i'm personally going gambit and skeledirge and sneasler with aurora veil, my goats in reg h

ripe grail
#

Noiceee

compact sail
#

I really wished she got something to balance LoR’s horrendous recoil but hey a free 33% boost on top of stab on a base 140BP move is fair I guess

cyan smelt
#

kangaskhan to round out the 6

wild knot
supple latch
ripe grail
cyan smelt
#

i've always felt most comfortable with balance

compact sail
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Im forced to use Taunt Incineroar cause my goat lost Knock Off 😔

wild knot
ripe grail
#

Also which money spending things are worth it as of now ??? @cyan smelt

supple latch
ripe grail
gentle cragBOT
cyan smelt
#

i bought the starter pack but haven't bought anything in game

supple latch
ripe grail
wild knot
compact sail
cyan smelt
#

can't believe that i'm seeing the day that eternal floette is legal tbh

supple latch
cyan smelt
#

can someone answer me if fake out is a tm in champions?

wild knot
#

well dont you need vp?

ripe grail
wild knot
compact sail
supple latch
cyan smelt
#

oh good that makes it easier

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that is nucking futs

supple latch
cyan smelt
#

well i don't need to worry about eternal floette because i have sneasler

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i just need to worry about its buddies 😭

supple latch
wild knot
#

i need to grab a sneaseler from other games

cyan smelt
#

dire claw gg shake my hand

supple latch
#

I can just grab one from Pokémon Go

#

I have a Shadow one, I can just purify it

wild knot
#

but dont you need to walk it first to evo

cyan smelt
#

question, is anyone gonna use mega golurk or mega victreebell

supple latch
wild knot
#

i havent

compact sail
#

Im so happy that people are actively plotting against my second favourite Pokemon (next to Lucario) because we all collectively agree that she’s busted beyond belief

wild knot
#

ill just grab one from arcues then

cyan smelt
#

so my 6 is a9, kangaskhan, sneasler, gliscor, skeledirge, gambit

ripe grail
#

Worth buying some mega stones???

supple latch
ripe grail
#

Thinking excaderite and charizadite Y

compact sail
#

Like wym she gets a 33% boost to a OHKO move on top of base 155 Sp.Atk

supple latch
cyan smelt
#

don't use mega excadrill but zard y will be good

ripe grail
#

Okayyyy

versed river
#

i havent seen anyone talk about this
m-a is ending june 17th
this means worlds will be the first m-b tour

chrome knot
#

lmfao saw that

supple latch
cyan smelt
#

wait how do i bring pokemon from home to champions

wild knot
#

you link home with champions

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the icon is beside the pokemon go one

supple latch
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Cause that was the other gimmick introduced in the trailer

compact sail
#

Congrats to my GOAT Floette for power-creeping Xerneas

cyan smelt
#

i sent from home, how do i accept in champions?

versed river
cyan smelt
#

xerneas fans in ruins because no more power herb so no more geomancy

ripe grail
supple latch
wild knot
#

still so many bugs..

ripe grail
#

Evs for aegislash anyone???

wild knot
#

mega turn order is messed up

supple latch
compact sail
cyan smelt
#

is eternal floette faster

versed river
#

floette did not powercreep xerneas

ripe grail
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It's not faster bro lol

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Let's not get carried away

ripe grail
#

Xerneas is and will always be better

versed river
#

#1 it takes your mega slot
#2 youre slower
#3 youre less bulky
#4 you take a bunch of recoil

cyan smelt
#

bruh what's going on my evs are messed up

ripe grail
#

Not a xerneas fan btw

versed river
#

yall are getting ahead of yourself

ripe grail
#

Ikrrrr

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Saying it's better than xerneas with PH is a stretch

supple latch
versed river
#

also pherb is not permanently gone most likely

supple latch
compact sail
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Well I haven’t had the misfortune of going up against PH Geomamcy yet so yeah maybe I don’t know that well

cyan smelt
#

are you telling me that xerneas next to primal groudon won't be busted

wild knot
#

oh my god not big 6

ripe grail
#

Mega dragonite spread and moveset???

ripe grail
supple latch
supple latch
compact sail
cyan smelt
#

xerneas with dark void smeargle was horrible apparently

wild knot
#

wolfey has a great video about it

supple latch
ripe grail
#

Yesss

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Just watch that

compact sail
supple latch
cyan smelt
#

yeah poor darkrai

#

smeargle got off scot free

supple latch
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But Darkrai? Bro has nothing to do with the trauma

cyan smelt
#

darkrai is left with 55% hypnosis 😭

chrome knot
cyan smelt
#

well thank goodness because then smeargle alolan muk would be even worse

supple latch
chrome knot
#

lol

cyan smelt
#

big 6, rinya sun, there's always going to be dominant archetypes and it's usually gonna be sun

chrome knot
#

im clickin da light of ruin button

supple latch
gentle cragBOT
wild knot
#

oh nya activated it lol

#

ri"nya" lol

cyan smelt
#

guys do you think i've got enough anti-intim tech on my team, i've got scrappy, defiant and hyper cutter

wild knot
#

competiive?

supple latch
#

What does “nya” mean? I’m not that old to know the slang

cyan smelt
#

yes

cyan smelt
#

need to be able to hit mega froslass with fake out

supple latch
cyan smelt
#

my evs are all messed up bro

#

and gliscor's ability keeps going back to sand veil

#

and it reset its nature

#

how do i get vp?

#

nvm i have 20k

#

what moves do i teach gliscor, i honestly dk

#

knock off can't hurt right

#

fuck it hhp, rock slide, sd, protect

#

this training music is so hype holy shit

#

ykw i can't wait to hit mega froslass with the drain punch

#

but maybe low kick is better

#

can you imagine parental bond low kick

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do you think i put fake out on sneasler?

supple latch
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drain punch it is

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I feel like the most fun ‘mons I want to try out are Mega Kanga (at least it’s no longer very traumatising), Mega Char Y, and Mega Gengar (I wonder why)

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where's the black glasses

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oh shop, duh

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ohhhh i am giving kangaskhan the silk scarf hell yeah

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Yeah, all type boosting items are in the shop like Fairy Feather, Black Glasses and Metal Coat

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oh no wait i need kangaskhanite