i mean its normal for pokemon to give non legendary signature moves to other mons
#competitive_discussion
versed river
molten oasis
Golispod will likely lose e exit
versed river
yeah, doubt theyll give golisopod emergency exit though
dapper crag
Actually it might be
versed river
what ability do yall think staraptor will get
it looks like a defiant or inner focus mon to me ngl
dapper crag
Defiant, Contrary, or Intimidate
versed river
Defiant, Contrary, or Intimidate
does it even get anything for contrary
i guess cc to be bulky
dapper crag
Close Combat
According to some rumor going around that I think has credibility, Staraptor and Crabominable get abilities that boost attack against Intimidate
lunar night
Actually it might be
yeah i saw the leaks
but those were from chinese translators who saw a glimpse of the game, so i’m sure that those are subject to change
shadow wind
Guard dog on the bird I can see it now
lunar night
i mean it was even leaked the mega clefable might get misty terrain, so i’m taking the leaks with a grain of salt
dapper crag
Anything is possible but I think Defiant on both bird and crab is very likely
lunar night
Anything is possible but I think Defiant on both bird and crab is very likely
probably
imagine Lucario Z gets either Prankster or Dancer
dapper crag
imagine Lucario Z gets either Prankster or Dancer
Prankster is whatever on it, Dancer is terrifying
I was on the Mega Launcher train so might be RIP
lunar night
Prankster is whatever on it, Dancer is terrifying
victory dance and quiver dance
horrible
shadow wind
Give it minds eye
dapper crag
horrible
Makes it somewhat reliant on a partner or an opponent
I don’t see Dancer even if it fits thematically
lunar night
Makes it somewhat reliant on a partner or an opponent
yeah ik that’s why i said horrible (horrible to be faced against)
lunar night
I don’t see Dancer even if it fits thematically
you never know
also for this
10 battles won just to get 1 mega stone
dapper crag
Again we’ll see in two weeks
lunar night
also for this
i don’t think we might see a variety in Megas anytime soon
everyone’s gonna be clicking the strongest
personally the first thing i’m getting is Mega Gardevoir
oh yes, we still don’t know what Eternal Floette’s ability might be
any guesses
dapper crag
Home will probably show all new abilities so I’ll be doing research when it updates
dapper crag
any guesses
Brand new signature, not sure about the functionality
lunar night
Home will probably show all new abilities so I’ll be doing research when it upda...
yeah, i wonder what Mega Meowstic gets
my money is on Psychic surge
dapper crag
Same
I think Raichu X is the one getting Electric Surge
If Y gets it it’s a top threat for sure
I’d be fine leading sweeps with my completely normal alpha Pikachu
I’m curious as to what signatures Eelektross and Pyroar are allegedly getting but still looks bleak
The fact Excadrill allegedly gets one terrifies me
Still not a huge fan of Mega Excadrill because it’s fugly as balls but it’s definitely gonna be very strong
shadow wind
But he’s the drill that pierces the heavens
Because he believes in the me that believes in the you
chrome knot
everyone’s gonna be clicking the strongest
gengar yay
dapper crag
But he’s the drill that pierces the heavens
I heard one version of the rumor say it’s called Piercing Drill
shadow wind
That’d be tufff
dapper crag
It probably translates to passing through protect
versed river
yeah, i wonder what Mega Meowstic gets
i hope its like psychic hadron engine
dapper crag
Hell no
lunar night
i hope its like psychic hadron engine
it’s dex entry literally describing Expanding Force is a sign
chrome knot
i hope its like psychic hadron engine
flips your meowstic upsidedown
dapper crag
Most likely Psychic Surge
lunar night
Most likely Psychic Surge
which is Psychic Hadron Engine
chrome knot
no it not
lunar night
unless it has a secondary effect i’m unaware of
dapper crag
No
versed river
which is Psychic Hadron Engine
no it isnt
hadron engine sets electric terrain and boosts miraidons special attack on electric terrain
lunar night
hadron engine sets electric terrain and boosts miraidons special attack on elect...
oh yeah i forgot abt that
Meowstic with its boosted Special Attack
dapper crag
Hadron Engine is Quark Drive and Electric Terrain in one
lunar night
Hadron Engine is Quark Drive and Electric Terrain in one
oh is it like for Orichalcum Pulse
dapper crag
Yep
versed river
yep
dapper crag
So Psychic Surge just sets the terrain
lunar night
So Psychic Surge just sets the terrain
what might it be called
acc ykw
Meowstic gets Minds Eye
dapper crag
I’m saying I think it’s just getting Psychic Surge
versed river
Meowstic gets Minds Eye
this wouldnt do shit for it
lunar night
I’m saying I think it’s just getting Psychic Surge
i want either
Psychic Surge
Minds Eye
Psychic Hadron Engine
lunar night
this wouldnt do shit for it
true, but seems fitting for its lore
anyway sounds like smth GF would do
dapper crag
Thoughts on Speed Boost Zeraora?
lunar night
Thoughts on Speed Boost Zeraora?
no
please it’s the last thing i want
bad enough Magearna retains Soul Heart, but 2 broken Mythical Megas is
something
versed river
mythicals wont be legal anyways
dapper crag
We have rumors for all five gen 7 mega abilities:
- Crabominable: Defiant
- Golisopod: Tough Claws
- Drampa: Drizzle
- Magearna: Soul Heart
- Zeraora: Speed Boost
I’m pretty content with them ngl
lunar night
I’m pretty content with them ngl
yeah
lunar night
golisopod should get water bubble ngl
wouldn’t fit its lore
lunar night
why would drampa get drizzle
bcs dex says that it summons storms
dapper crag
why would drampa get drizzle
Old man storm dragon
Mega Golisopod is gonna be very good
lunar night
Mega Golisopod is gonna be very good
only 1 weakness
dapper crag
Priority and trick room for days
lunar night
Priority and trick room for days
scary
molten oasis
i want either
Psychic Surge
Minds Eye
Psychic Hadron Engine
Could we not get the last one thanks
lunar night
Could we not get the last one thanks
i mean
gentle cragBOT
Could we not get the last one thanks
drayagedrago has given 1 Gen Rep to dr.articuno
lunar night
it’d finally make Meowstic meta relevant
lunar night
**drayagedrago** has given 1 `Gen Rep` to **dr.articuno**
oh wow
molten oasis
I don’t need to deal with eforces that powerful
dapper crag
Could any other new megas besides Feraligatr get some kind of Aerilate-type ability?
lunar night
I don’t need to deal with eforces that powerful
all hail the Second Sight Pokemon
lunar night
Could any other new megas besides Feraligatr get some kind of Aerilate-type abil...
Chimecho gets Steel Voice
dapper crag
Doesn’t Gastly have a very high special attack?
dapper crag
Chimecho gets Steel Voice
I’m not ruling that out
dapper crag
I’m definitely looking at the mons that got types added or swapped for “Normal to X” abilities, so:
- Clefable (Flying)
- Meganium (Fairy) ❌
- Feraligatr (Dragon) ✅
- Chimecho (Steel)
- Absol Z (Ghost)
- Staraptor (Fighting)
- Barbaracle (Fighting)
- Golisopod (Steel)
chrome knot
Doesn’t Gastly have a very high special attack?
the most common megas in format are sending meganium back to low income housing
dapper crag
I don’t see Garchomp Z getting Dragonize
versed river
I don’t see Garchomp Z getting Dragonize
garchomp z should get ground type rocky payload
lunar night
I’m not ruling that out
STAB boosted Boomburst with (idk the multiplier for that ability)
lunar night
garchomp z should get ground type rocky payload
won’t get STAB though
then again, it does get more powerful
versed river
won’t get STAB though
rocky payload is basically stab
lunar night
rocky payload is basically stab
fair enough
dapper crag
STAB boosted Boomburst with (idk the multiplier for that ability)
But guess what it doesn’t have
lunar night
But guess what it doesn’t have
what
lunar night
I thought you were replying to me talking about Garchomp Z
oh lol
versed river
dragon type boomburst would be crazy
dapper crag
Garchomp Z doesn’t have any threatening special normal moves but plenty of physical
versed river
pair it with icy wind flutter and win
dapper crag
Chomp only has Razor Wind, Swift, and Hyper Beam as special normal moves. On physical it has Thrash, Double Edge, Facade, Body Slam, Slash, and Giga Impact
chrome knot
pair it with icy wind flutter and win
falling asleep
dapper crag
I’m not buying into the allegations yet
Mega Chomp walked so base Chomp could run so Chomp Z could fly
tiny karmaBOT
molten oasis
Idk man that guy kinda sucks
dense latch
chomp walked so mega chomp could walk even slower
dapper crag
We don’t even have a hint for what the ability is. Sure it loses ground stab and 10 defense but it also isn’t 4x against ice, can run either physical or special, still has decent bulk, and it’s insanely fast
dense latch
i don't have much faith for it ngl losing the ground typing is rough
dapper crag
Obviously I want it to be good because it’s a mega, it should be good, at least in comparison to base. I just think it has potential
And like I said, no lead on an ability
molten oasis
IF, it gets access to ground stab, it’ll be fine
dapper crag
I don’t think it will but I’m saying I think it’s got something going for it
Everyone is just embedding on the fact it doesn’t have ground STAB anymore and that’s not the only factor. Again I could be wrong and it turns out to suck, but we’ll have to see in two weeks or if the ability gets shown or leaked before release
lunar night
hm
tiny karmaBOT
lunar night
is this viable
dapper crag
Definitely ability dependent
lunar night
Definitely ability dependent
Dragalge’s Adaptability
dapper crag
We don’t know the mega ability and we have no lead
lunar night
would be nice
lunar night
We don’t know the mega ability and we have no lead
maybe tomorrow will tell
lunar night
People are speculating regenerator
still would be good
dapper crag
maybe tomorrow will tell
Oh yeah Pax is tomorrow
lunar night
But it wouldn’t be as good as, any of the top megas
i love using anti meta pokemon
dapper crag
Regen wouldn’t be bad
shadow wind
i love using anti meta pokemon
So does everyone else
But they’re called “anti meta” and not “meta” for a reason
lunar night
But they’re called “anti meta” and not “meta” for a reason
oh i just use like
out of the ordinary pokemon
ik for a fact no one uses Mega Audino
so i’ll find a use for it
shadow wind
out of the ordinary pokemon
Bro might be 1 in a krillion 😭
summer dagger
I want mega drill to be a menace
left bobcat
Is it not already?
summer dagger
We don't know it's ability
dull ibex
Is it not already?
no because we don't know its ability
lunar night
I want mega drill to be a menace
i wonder what the Paldea megas get
lofty tartan
hallow nova
How should I prepare for pokemon champions if Im new to vgc? Was thinking of using a sand team with tyrantiar (One of my favorite pokemon) and mega excadrill. But not sure what else goes on that team or how to build around that
chrome knot
wait until release
bold geode
wait until release
next stump
How should I prepare for pokemon champions if Im new to vgc? Was thinking of usi...
You can catch pokemon in scarlet violet/ZA that have been revealed to be in the game
So on day 1 you can dump them in
lofty tartan
And Go - been a lot of Mega-Evolution themed stuff going on
next stump
Good shout it’s so easy to get stuff on there
lofty tartan
Yeah I've caught a bundle of things all ready for transfer to Champions. We got Mega Victreebell, Dragonite, and Malamar before Mewtwo came back 
lofty tartan
Honestly I think I have a little too much
forest arrow
Yeah I have a lot in my extras boxes😅
solid frigate
I have just about 1k shinies on Go <:BlobHyperSweats:570387217386700811>
I only have like 200 lol
And only 30 that are consider somewhat meta during mega formats
left bobcat
no because we don't know its ability
Eh just give it sand rush again and call it a day ✌️
fervent pulsar
Considering piloting Japan Sand when Champions drops next month. Y’all reckon it’d be viable, or am I better off looking elsewhere for team comps?
(T-Tar + Sand Rush Exca + Mega-Mence)
mighty stump
Starting off with somethign established would never hurt especially in a Bo1 CTS format
brisk crater
shadow wind
Reg I is fire what’re you talking about
cyan smelt
Conner who are you pairing with groudon
cyan smelt
Miraidon anything is usually good
shadow wind
Usually yeah
Scarf Miraidon + Groudon is awesome though
Quick snarl to make him actually live a hit is always nice
versed river
also eterrain for valiant
shadow wind
Valiant 🥀
rare pumice
would stomping tantrum be better on garchomp in doubles if rillabom is running around anyways?
real prairie
@mighty stump more pkmn swag
versed river
would stomping tantrum be better on garchomp in doubles if rillabom is running a...
usually yeah
it can run both too
i think the main chomp set is stomping scale shot swords dance protect with a loaded dice
rare pumice
thank you
left bobcat
Squirtle squad did it better
chrome knot
i think the main chomp set is stomping scale shot swords dance protect with a lo...
its a split between that & jus clam eq stomping dragon claw
or lorb
versed river
its a split between that & jus clam eq stomping dragon claw
yeah, neither really see any play in the current regs though
chrome knot
bc why would they its jus a reg h mon
versed river
true
versed river
does anyone know when turin will be on rk9
versed river
lmaoo
waxen dock
i think the main chomp set is stomping scale shot swords dance protect with a lo...
No one runs that
versed river
No one runs that
not in reg f or i
but when garchomp is ran that is one of the main sets
versed river
Who tf ran choml those formats
i just said they didnt 😭
chrome knot
and the worst reading to response award goes to:
waxen dock
and the worst reading to response award goes to:
Who?
waxen dock
but when garchomp is ran that is one of the main sets
No
It wasn't
It was lorb tect drago claw stomping and eq
With tera ground to boost stomping and eq
Some chomps ran clam instead of lorb
To stop incin
Scale shot sd loaded dice is probably a singles set
versed river
Scale shot sd loaded dice is probably a singles set
it has been used in vgc
i do not play singles
warm estuary
Scale shot sd loaded dice is probably a singles set
I mean
I’ve seen it used in singles but it’s not really good
warm estuary
I’ve seen it used in singles but it’s not really good
Actually it is
It’s garchomp that is mid in general
Holy i explained myself so bad
chrome knot
@bold geode guess who i added to the gym at work
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> guess who i added to the gym at work
Was it the Quagsire or the Larvesta
I almost said Quagmire
chrome knot
quagsire
dapper crag
The CEO didn’t like the Big Arch
waxen dock
<@817628066020065280> guess who i added to the gym at work
mcdonalds and gym in the same sentance seems weird
versed river
mcdonalds and gym in the same sentance seems weird
its because they didnt say mcdonalds in that "sentance"
/lhj
versed river
i know lmao
chrome knot
mcdonalds and gym in the same sentance seems weird
pokemon go
chrome knot
The CEO didn’t like the Big Arch
good for him i think idk
versed river
https://pokepast.es/85f28e19f6d971a8 any thoughts for my plan for my draft match this week?
scraggy is goggles
foggy lodge
@bold geode you know Aegislash can technically wall both Zam and CSR with wide guard
versed river
<@817628066020065280> you know Aegislash can technically wall both Zam and CSR w...
csr will start running dark pulse if aegislash is meta
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> you know Aegislash can technically wall both Zam and CSR w...
Just to still blow dog cheeks
chrome knot
<@817628066020065280> you know Aegislash can technically wall both Zam and CSR w...
i sure hope we have 5 other team slots on a zamazenta team
bold geode
i sure hope we have 5 other team slots on a zamazenta team
I sure hope there's a funny kitty cat with the Zamazenta
dense latch
i wonder if they changes the interaction for the PAX demo or if it’s actually gonna be like this
dapper crag
Please god tell me that gets fixed in release
Switch, mega/max/tera, everything else. It should stay as such
dense latch
i think they changed it back to switch then mega
dense latch
bc i saw a thread where a paralyzed trevenant switched before a scizor mega evolves
shadow wind
That’d be lovely
bold geode
https://x.com/lorcylovesyou/status/2037216665344069732?s=46 what
See people are saying it this way which honestly says that it didn't change but then there's that one b roll for example with Mega Gren where it megas then something switches out so like
I'm not totally sure LOL
Like the way that reads, that's how it worked with once per battle mechanics before
lost sun
is gyarados a good intimidate user in weaker regs
next stump
yeah it was a solid choice earlier on in SV
dealt with the likes of Arcanine, Great Tusk, etc. pretty well
sudden remnant
is gyarados a good intimidate user in weaker regs
yes
versed river
sudden remnant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7RvGog9hi0
well its cybertron zang ofc he would use my boi
chrome knot
yeah it was a solid choice earlier on in SV
YOU
i have a rough draft of what i wanna test on release
with ms gengar
lost sun
with ms gengar
I got one too
foggy lodge
well its cybertron zang ofc he would use my boi
Its not his team tho
sudden remnant
Its not his team tho
im watching the video i know lmao
shadow wind
umbreon is so good how could yall hate my boi
Because in general it's a boring mon
foggy lodge
Fake
sudden remnant
Because in general it's a boring mon
me when i lie
chrome knot
Because in general it's a boring mon
boring and uninspiring actually
sudden remnant
umbreons no. 1 and no. 2 opps
shadow wind
It just sits on the field and does pretty much nothing
sudden remnant
thats the thing it sits on the field
foggy lodge
Yeah but it makes Calyrex and Lunala players sad
shadow wind
Bro wants to give it a medal for something Nuzleaf can do 😭
sudden remnant
having a mon that can sit on the field and disrupt isa good thing
foggy lodge
That makes it anticringe mon
shadow wind
Yeah but it makes Calyrex and Lunala players sad
Kid named dark type
sudden remnant
kid named teammate
shadow wind
Shocker that the bulky dark type can take resisted hits
shadow wind
It's stalling the game out
And it doesn't support the team it's a very standalone mon
sudden remnant
idk rendering opponents incapable of moving for a large number of turns sounds pretty good
foggy lodge
Taunt is pretty huge
shadow wind
Kid named Miraidon 😭
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
65 speed
shadow wind
kid named partner miraidon
So your yawn is useless ???
foggy lodge
And tbh you don't bring it into Miraidon
sudden remnant
So your yawn is useless ???
did i not say THUNDER WAVE???
shadow wind
This mon is not good
sudden remnant
skill issue
shadow wind
did i not say THUNDER WAVE???
I mean you didn't really say anything you were insinuating stopping the opponents from moving which could have been interpreted as twave or yawn
shadow wind
skill issue
L Ragebait 😭
sudden remnant
just stating facts
foggy lodge
Thunder wave the Miraidon oh yeah
chrome knot
L Ragebait 😭
you found urself in a convo with a tourist
i walked into that trap the other day lmao
shadow wind
Guess so
sudden remnant
Thunder wave the Miraidon oh yeah
no use your miraidon to attack the enemy miraidon and twave its partner
shadow wind
Son I'm cryne
Also Maxi these stitches in my mouth gotta be bottom 5 things I've ever had to deal with
foggy lodge
Rip them apart
foggy lodge
Can you even brush your teeth with that
shadow wind
Yeah
Just carefully
Though chewing with my front like 8 teeth is frying me
I didn't realize I was such a cheek chewer
Feel like a rabbit bro
bold geode
Rip them apart
Pro tip: stab your fuckin mouth
bold geode
I didn't realize I was such a cheek chewer
Why are you chewing shit 2 days after you had your wisdom teeth out anyways
Should be eating soft shit
shadow wind
It's a tortilla shell
foggy lodge
I didn't realize I was such a cheek chewer
Everyone is a cheeck chewer tbh lol
bold geode
Everyone is a cheeck chewer tbh lol
Who the fuck ain't
foggy lodge
Like your teeth are made like that
bold geode
They like that
shadow wind
Also I literally had nothing happen to me after I got the surgery done
Like no swelling no bruising
I'm kinda awesome like that
I think it's cause they didn't give me any drugs
molten oasis
Also Maxi these stitches in my mouth gotta be bottom 5 things I've ever had to d...
They suck
No solids, only mush
shadow wind
But what if I'm actually him?
shadow wind
Don't worry
No straws for me
I so could play sports today
But I guess I'll take my extra days of rest
But Saturday comes and I got that dog in me
molten oasis
I hope so
shadow wind
Lowkey got that dog in me right now
I feel like I got very lucky with how my body responded to it
What I get for playing Groudon all this time
Y'all mess with parting shot grimmsnarl?
lost sun
i used it about 6 months ago felt decent
shadow wind
Feels like really good insurance for a turn 2 emergency
chrome knot
Y'all mess with parting shot grimmsnarl?
lol
molten oasis
Twave>
shadow wind
The problem I have with twave is the mons I struggle with are Miraidon and Lando
And I really like pivoting
chrome knot
playing reg i
shadow wind
Yeah I'm pretty braindead right now so I want to stop thinking
Reg I don't want to think hard
And it's either that or I'm speedrunning minecraft and mentally one is 24 times easier than the other
shadow wind
Found an Erik alt
foggy lodge
Erik uses CSR Korai which is more based
molten oasis
lol
sudden remnant
if they do retcon ivs whats gonna happen to Gyro ball and Electro ball
shadow wind
Erik uses CSR Korai which is more based
Eleki was the main mon I was looking at
shadow wind
if they do retcon ivs whats gonna happen to Gyro ball and Electro ball
Absolutely nothing??
Ivs doesn't mean speeds are different
Like speed differences still exist
sudden remnant
it does because you have more or less speed through ivs
yeah but you lose potential damage both ways
shadow wind
Right and there's still a difference?
shadow wind
yeah but you lose potential damage both ways
They've nerfed things before
near crag
Why isn’t mirai csr almost ever used? Yeah they have similar speed tiers, and they’re both special attackers, but few mons resist both, and they seem like a strong offensive duo
sudden remnant
rip electro ball 2011-2026
shadow wind
No one used them anyway
sudden remnant
“no one” he says like im not right here
shadow wind
Why isn’t mirai csr almost ever used? Yeah they have similar speed tiers, and th...
Assault vest kinda just slimes em
near crag
Wdym?
shadow wind
Like a specially defensive team makes their lives so hard
AV Miraidon for example eats hits and just snarls them both
Or Volc
near crag
Volc is good against pretty much every csr comp
shadow wind
Qd up and now you're struggling a bit
They aren't bad together but both being similar speed tiers and not especially bulky makes them really hard to use
Pretty frail guys and no support from either of them makes them kinda mid when on the same team
shadow wind
“no one” he says like im not right here
Twin I don't think I have ever seen you actually play a game or show any kind of team
Especially not with gyro ball
And I've used Gyro ball before
near crag
You think the same goes for csr zac? Been theorizing about them both for a while, but I can’t really get to a satisfying point
shadow wind
It's not like no one uses it but it's a bad move 99% of the time
shadow wind
You think the same goes for csr zac? Been theorizing about them both for a while...
They don't really cover each other well enough
Imo
No terrain and no weather control on either restricted is already putting you at a disadvantage
sudden remnant
when (if) we get a dynamax format in champs do we think zacian is gonna dominate again
king vons return incoming
shadow wind
Not like gen 8 but it'll for sure be stronger than it is now
near crag
No terrain and no weather control on either restricted is already putting you at...
Csr zam hasn’t either
next stump
You think the same goes for csr zac? Been theorizing about them both for a while...
neither can damage incin
maybe if you run some cheese like tera blast
shadow wind
Csr zam hasn’t either
Good point
near crag
Sacred sword could help, no?
sudden remnant
Not like gen 8 but it'll for sure be stronger than it is now
rn shes kinda just a dog with a sword that still smacks a lot of pokemon really hard
shadow wind
Sacred sword does like 50 to incin tops
near crag
Been trying to do it with rain, to help against those bulky sun teams
sudden remnant
maybe if you run some cheese like tera blast
dont most active zacians run tera ground tera blast
sudden remnant
shadow wind
Scary face Grimmsnarl might be tech
Works on Miraidon and Lando and can't miss
Dream come true
near crag
dont most active zacians run tera ground tera blast
The most cheese you can get away with zacian is stellar Tera blast, but it’s still cheese
shadow wind
I liked the idea of that
I think some people used it but it was never mainstream
It did put in work though
shadow wind
I've only ever ran Zacian in double res so I have no clue how people played it in single res
sudden remnant
it was double res i was zac mirai
shadow wind
Interesting
sudden remnant
gambling duo fr. either i one shot them or they one shot me
sudden remnant
so how much of a change do we think the extra stat point will be for vgc
foggy lodge
Nothing because that point was always there
next stump
everything gets very marginally bulkier
sudden remnant
maybe we can have more 1 hp moments
chrome knot
everything gets very marginally bulkier
f a t
foggy lodge
like i guess it matters for 252 252 4 spreads
But even then you could do 252 244 4 4 4
rustic widget
hi
sudden remnant
like i guess it matters for 252 252 4 spreads
yeah 252 252 4 is now 252 252 12 😁
1 hp clutch .tm incoming
lofty tartan
It's not a big deal.
People will just calc for it. You get enough "1hp clutch" moments already, and people calc to survive a move in a range that sometimes results in 1hp 
Damage is dealt in a range, so it's not going to invariably increase those moments.
sudden remnant
1 more defensive point can be a big deal though
lofty tartan
It really depends on what's happening, and both pokemon in question.
sudden remnant
like 4 def chien pao over 4 hp chien pao cuz it lets it live surging strikes without rain
now you can have both
lofty tartan
Yeah, that's the most stark example, and the only one I thought about when you mentioned 1 def being a big deal.
forest arrow
I swear I seen 1 is 8 and 32 is 256
lofty tartan
I honestly wouldn't see a reason to change anything from the end result that we have now. It throws off like 25ish years of math.
I'm sure it's just a misunderstanding that's being discussed, here.
sudden remnant
lofty tartan
"To convert to the old EV system, 1 SP = 8 EVs"
It does result in a leftover 1 point, but I don't think it's going to be super ultra clutch.
It does throw calc numbers off for all of the people who have been playing VGC for decades.
So while I don't think it's going to matter in a playability standard, I think it's a stupid decision when thinking about it from a numbers perspective.
sudden remnant
idk why they would add an extra stat point but it will be interesting
lofty tartan
sudden remnant
so i imagine za wont have home access when champions drops 🙁
so thered be no reason to shiny hunt a buneary on za for champs
chrome knot
primarina confirmed
is it worth trying primarina in a format stronger than reg h, but no rillaboom
or tera
shadow wind
Depends on what else is in the format but I’d say probably not?
It kinda just dies to 2 decently strong neutral physical hits
shadow wind
Not as much as Prima
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
80/74/116 is kinda hard to make work with 60 speed
shadow wind
Specially yeah it’s fine
chrome knot
80/74 just be def bulky and have intimidate
shadow wind
I just don’t know how much worth it would have
You do gymnastics go make it survive just for it to do what many other special attackers can also do
chrome knot
#okay
shadow wind
It doesn’t set up rain, it wants to set up, the only thing it really has is the fairy typing
Liquid voice is very strong though I’ll give it that
By no means is it a bad Mon but when other better water types exist it’s hard to justify
Even Suicune might get more usage depending on the allowed mons
chrome knot
hi im kingambit
bold geode
blows up Kingambit with mind
chrome knot
body press
bold geode
Nuh Uh
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
shit
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
hm
shadow wind
Half of those are the same guy
sudden remnant
i see that 😭
god, god, god, god, god, god, god, god, god wannabe, god wannabe, dna cat, some random birds, and a couple dragons
oh and then a manta ray
cuz why not
summer dagger
prim gambit mice scale shot dnite & 2 other people
Loaded dice or mega?
summer dagger
hence scale shot dnite
Yeah I was just seeing if u were doing something with mega dnite
chrome knot
no
sudden remnant
Yeah I was just seeing if u were doing something with mega dnite
obviously not if its scale shot
that would be incredibly troll
summer dagger
Haven't seen anyone interested in him i was just asking lol I just love his design
sudden remnant
i cant wait to nuke a mega dnite turn 1
summer dagger
Froslass lover?
sudden remnant
mawile
huge power mega mawile gonna go brrrrrr
and since incin is in the game on release i think im gonna run hyper cutter over intimidate
chrome knot
i cant wait to nuke a mega dnite turn 1
multiscale
summer dagger
It was fun back In the day
sudden remnant
multiscale
mawile is slow its partner will for sure go before it and then mawile can just nuke it
summer dagger
Depending on who's dnites partner
chrome knot
i sure hope dragonites partner & dragonite itself don’t have moves for mawile😵💫
chrome knot
you jus said ur breaking multiscale
sudden remnant
yes with a spread move
summer dagger
you jus said ur breaking multiscale
This
chrome knot
this isn’t killing anyone
sudden remnant
i just need it to break multiscale
chrome knot
mawile is last in turn order brah
sudden remnant
mega mawile does big pp damage
sudden remnant
mawile is last in turn order brah
I KNOW THAT
chrome knot
oh my fucking god its so frail
sudden remnant
mawiles partner breaks multiscale with a spread move and then mawile nukes the dragon
chrome knot
you gonna die lmfao
sudden remnant
in champions it will be 2 points in special defense since we get an extra stat point to work with now
chrome knot
that 12 is not helping you
sudden remnant
summer dagger
What partner are u planning on pairing with mega big mouth lol
sudden remnant
mega mawile politoed (if its in the game) umbreon (which is confirmed) non-mega raichu mega lopunny and a fast special water type with icy wind idk which one yet
chrome knot
ts so ass😭
foggy lodge
Umbreon is jobless outside of restricted formats
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
indeed it does
summer dagger
Yuh
sudden remnant
why does it learn blizzard 😭
chrome knot
holy fuck please somehow craft an unusable lopunny set
sudden remnant
normal types try not to learn moves they have no business learning challenge impossible
i will be running triple axel
chrome knot
learns ice punch
chrome knot
please what moves r u putting on it im so curious
summer dagger
This for the same maw team?
bold geode
prim gambit mice scale shot dnite & 2 other people
Are you just making a Reg H team again or
sudden remnant
i think its a champs team?
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
why rain dish
shadow wind
Turtle
sudden remnant
what does it do for blastoise tho
shadow wind
And what do 99.99% of abilities do for mons bruh
They aren't thinking about competitive viability in every single ability
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
YES, IRON FIST !!!!
foggy lodge
Why does it have good spd
shadow wind
On the mon with 35 base attack...
foggy lodge
Like what was the gameplan here
shadow wind
Why does it have good spd
Cause they couldn't make a fully evolved mon have a bst of 240 😭
foggy lodge
I would expect it to be "fast" for the standard of gen 2
Like what is this atleast make it fast give it the 110 points into speed not into spd
They created this and 25 years after they made flutter mand
dense latch
it did take them a ridiculous amount of time to figure out how to design ice types
shadow wind
it did take them a ridiculous amount of time to figure out how to design ice typ...
AVALUGG 🗣️
God I love having the worst defensive type in the game have some of the fattest stat pumpers of all time
tiny karmaBOT
solid frigate
Are we using Groudon as a weight scale
dense latch
i like the idea of comparing everything's weight to a groudon
foggy lodge
it did take them a ridiculous amount of time to figure out how to design ice typ...
Tbh they also made a "mistake" when they made CIR and its still broken
shadow wind
The mistake of 165 base attack and a 120 bp stab spread move?
foggy lodge
130 BP in sw sh btw
shadow wind
Jeez
dense latch
yea but i feel like cir is the exception bc it's good in spite of its ice type
shadow wind
Why was glacial 130 and astral 120
Ice types are worse 🤤
foggy lodge
It feels like a typo
And in true GF's nature they obviously wouldn't change it until the next game
shadow wind
But Groudon has an 85% accurate move
foggy lodge
I hate so much that both Calyrex and Urshifu were indeed nerfed going into SV it just did not matter
shadow wind
And tera makes him 40% worse !
Like genuinely tera hurts Groudon so much
Also I'm a bit disappointed that I'll be taking an extended leave of vgc literally when champions drops
foggy lodge
2 weeks break and then come back in champions lets gooo
shadow wind
I move in like 2 weeks and then I have to be a grown up 😔
mighty stump
I move in like 2 weeks and then I have to be a grown up 😔
Mood
Except im a grown up already
shadow wind
I've been feeling like a grown up recently and honestly not terrible
mighty stump
You get financial freedom with whole lot less time
mighty stump
I think Mega Glimm is suspected to have Levitate which is alright ig
molten oasis
It’ll never out damage meteor beam Glimm
tiny karmaBOT
solid frigate
Getting levitate would be very funny tho
Especially against Lando
cyan smelt
Ykw i'm bored i might play some randbats to see if i get tilted
mighty stump
At least its 101 spe
shadow wind
Real
sudden remnant
i imagine mega lopunny ran limber as its base ability?
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
I doubt it mattered what it ran
cyan smelt
ok good news i am not getting tilted from randbats, I have matured
sudden remnant
I doubt it mattered what it ran
i imagine a mega stone would ignore klutz, and it gets like no use from cute charm its too frail
so the only ability it can actually use in base form is limber
cyan smelt
why are we even talking about mega lopunny
sudden remnant
cuz i plan to use it
cyan smelt
with what
sudden remnant
i have 2 team ideas in my head 1 is with mega mawile the other is with mega zard y
cyan smelt
i don't even know the new megas or the old megas
cyan smelt
is mega ttar gonna be good
sudden remnant
if im not mistaken ttar is one of the cases where base form is more beneficial
cyan smelt
what about mega metagross
also i'm feeling good, i tested myself out in randbats, played a few games, lost the first couple but didn't get tilted and had fun
sudden remnant
what about mega metagross
idk for that one I imagine it will be good with its new access to heavy slam and psychic fangs
cyan smelt
i am having fun playing randbats even if i lose sometimes so i think i'm mentally ready for vgc again
solid frigate
is mega ttar gonna be good
its fine
solid frigate
what about mega metagross
top 10 if not top 5 megas
molten oasis
what about mega metagross
Top 3
cyan smelt
Eevee you're best resetting for an ob outside medali i think
ocean pawn
idk for that one I imagine it will be good with its new access to heavy slam and...
well it was top tier before with worse moves
versed river
anyone know a good spot to sh umbreon in sv
#shiny_hunters, but outside medali yeah
sudden remnant
oh rivht we have a channel for that lmao
i was genuinely just hyper focused of getting a shiny umbreon for champions
versed river
i wonder if champions will even have shinies
chrome knot
yes
knotty mirage
Is alpha pokemon also confirmed ?
sudden remnant
we dont know that as far as im aware
ive been scavenging youtube instagram and twitter for any scraps i can find
knotty mirage
Oh well hopefully it is because the legend ZA mon that i plan too send too champion is all alpha 
Well except for the legend and mythical that is
sudden remnant
naturally
versed river
Is alpha pokemon also confirmed ?
itll probably just be the former alpha mark tbh
leaden fox
Honestly cannot wait for Champions; will be streaming that day one (yes, not a joke lol)
mighty stump
test
fervent pulsar
wo-chienuinely excited for Pokemon Champions
leaden fox
I suspect sub-legends, legendary and mythical will not be in the game from day one at least 😅
Though sub-legends may slip through the cracks at least
fervent pulsar
chat, does Meganium's Mega Sol Weather Ball damage get nerfed in rain?
if not, this could be huge
I think it might slot well into Rain teams too
wochienuinely happy that Meganium's finally getting its flowers
mighty stump
It would be a Fire move, so it would get halved
So I wouldn’t be running WBall in Rain tbh
Since you would also be focusing on Mega, otherwise its a dud slot
lost sun
it does say it's uses moves like the sun is up
fervent pulsar
it can go a couple ways
- WBall Fire is unaffected by outer weather due to Mega Sol, meaning unnerfed BP 150 WBFire
- WBF is affected by outer weather, but is Fire due to Mega Sol, meaning 75 BP via rain nerf
- WB is more affected by rain regardless, making it WBW
best case scenario, it is unaffected by outer rain. Worst case, it is affected by outer rain
rare pumice
is water type hyper voice reason enough to use liquid voice on primarina? i've gotten the sense that torrent is better than i originally use to think it was on certain pokemon
chrome knot
that is the entire point
rare pumice
yea i figured, i was just wondering if other people use primarina for other reasons or if that's it
rare pumice
thank you
i wonder if mega froslass will become a haze user if people end up using aurora veil on it, it feels like a good combination
rare pumice
yea it's just that if it's just blizzard spam, i feel like there's no reason not to use suport moves on it too at that point
like of all the megas, only needing one move seems like more reason to run some support on it
bold geode
nah liquid voice makes hyper voice pretty scary
steals your McDonald's
rare pumice
when it comes to rain/archaludon teams, did people use encore or icy wind on primarina?
next stump
neither
moonblast/hyper voice/haze or gleam/protect
you’re too slow to make use of encore and icy wind
rare pumice
yeah i just thought that if it's on a team with pelipper then maybe tailwind could enable encore
versed river
pelipper is slow as well
solid frigate
also rain teams don't use prim no?
versed river
and you dont wanna waste a turn on that 90% of the time
versed river
also rain teams don't use prim no?
in reg h they could
chrome knot
pelipper is slow as well
this isn’t why bad, more that encore becomes a prerequisite move
rare pumice
i've seen primarina on a few rain teams at one point i think
chrome knot
pelipper in idiot baby formats is like an ok speed lmao
solid frigate
in reg h they could
are they building a team in reg H tho
versed river
this isn’t why bad, more that encore becomes a prerequisite move
yeah but pelipper being slow is like the final nail in the coffin because you cant get a fast tailwind into encoring dozo or something
versed river
are they building a team in reg H tho
prolly not
rare pumice
ok i forgot the primary reason for haze was dondozo overall so nevermind
chrome knot
yeah but pelipper being slow is like the final nail in the coffin because you ca...
you just grab it on the next turn
and if u have haze what are u even encoring for
versed river
you dont have haze
they were thinking about dropping haze for encore or icy
which you should not do
versed river
@rare pumice if you wanna use primarina it got decent success in houston but not on a rain team iirc
chrome knot
was on a sun team lmao
versed river
lmao
rare pumice
i'm not convinced on primarina anyways i was just considering it, but haze doesn't seem like it would work well with archaludon on the same team idk
solid frigate
prolly not
then no prim is more like a liability
Urshifu Amoongus Peli Archa is the core for Reg F Rain
https://pokepast.es/3a65132812f3fbca i think this is an exact copy of a rain team that did somewhat good in Reg F 2
versed river
i doubt theyd do a third rerun of it in champs
chrome knot
u gotta be joking lol
“reg f” has always been the final format before jumping into restricted ones
versed river
i dont mean the rules of the format i mean the specific legal pokemon and mechanics
versed river
like were never gonna have 2017 vgc again but we do have regional dex formats or wtv its called
solid frigate
nah not really,at least for the first format
the format power level in M-A would be similar to reg C to Reg D with the Megas (Maybe Reg H)
versed river
nah not really,at least for the first format
the format power level in M-A woul...
i doubt we'll have legendaries right away
solid frigate
i'm saying Reg C-D since some Megas are just similar sub Legendary level
main meta ones especially
versed river
fair
chrome knot
chair
versed river
pair
chrome knot
hair
solid frigate
lair
versed river
maire
chrome knot
clair
rare pumice
is icy wind ever used on slower pokemon or is the mid-turn speed drop sort of the whole point?
lost sun
don't think I've seen people use it on a slower mon
versed river
its only ever used on tatsugiri which is kinda slow
only ever used when not fast*
other than that its stuff like chien pao, flutter, bundle, torn etc
rare pumice
i just figured if i'm next to a protect pokemon it could come in handy, but i guess if i'm not immediately benefiting from it then it isn't as reliable
versed river
i just figured if i'm next to a protect pokemon it could come in handy, but i gu...
not worth it
imo
rare pumice
was gastrodon in gen 9?
lost sun
ye
rare pumice
it seems like gastrodon is a funny dondozo counter then
versed river
i tried tera ghost gastrodon to wall urshifu rapid strike
it did not do much
rare pumice
it absorbs its only stab and can clear smog the tatsugiri boost
versed river
amoonguss does the same but is usable in alooot more matchups
so if you need clear smog go amoong
rare pumice
yea i'm just sort of looking at a lot of options right now more than i am making any decisions
chrome knot
why is incineroar blue
dapper crag
I think it’s for the best at launch but I was looking forward to running Porygon 2
lost sun
why is incineroar blue
wish they add it cus it looks great imo
chrome knot
it looks awful
lost sun
better than shiny incin
chrome knot
your opinion on art is dead
bold geode
better than shiny incin
I'm not a fan of shiny Incin but that blue looks like absolute dogshit
Makes him look like a fuckin Sonic OC
lost sun
I'm not a fan of shiny Incin but that blue looks like absolute dogshit
only bad part about it is the silver
solid frigate
who the fuck put 2018 Movie sonic in the game
foggy lodge
rare pumice
were there any two megas that worked particularly well together back in the day other than venusaur and zard y?
the only instance i can think of where people would have two megas for example would be like, kangaskhan and salamence
versed river
the only instance i can think of where people would have two megas for example w...
wolfe had 2 megas on his worlds winning team
they didnt really work well together though
gengar was for the big 6 mu ray was for the everything else mu
rare pumice
i think i remember watching a video on that
chrome knot
wolfe had 2 megas on his worlds winning team
just not a good point to study from
versed river
just not a good point to study from
yep
they were only there for his 2 different modes, never got brought to a game together
chrome knot
no i mean the format
versed river
ohh lmao
real prairie
lost sun
crazy
versed river
did they reveal the format at pax east
chrome knot
no gang its jus play test demo
chrome knot
i mean u can have preliminary test stuff for release day based on the information at hand
i already have a 6 put together for what i wanna test for indy
versed river
your gengar perish team?
bold geode
i already have a 6 put together for what i wanna test for indy
I have nothing but a fanfic Emma 
chrome knot
your gengar perish team?
i ended up cutting perish but yeah
versed river
whatd you replace it for
chrome knot
only weatherman mercules could tell u
versed river
😭
rare pumice
how do all the top vgc players manage to get pokemon like raging bolt for example? is the secret that top pokemon players just get both versions of the game
chrome knot
yes
i personally have 7 completed saves across scarlet & violet
& 8 swsh saves that have calyrex caught
dapper crag
Good lord
chrome knot
but thats bc i either made teams for friends or fished for certain ivs
im a big exception lol
any time joe ugarte needs a team finished last minute he comes to me
sudden remnant
damn you’ve made official comp teams? thats cool
chrome knot
i travel for vgc
waxen dock
how do all the top vgc players manage to get pokemon like raging bolt for exampl...
Probably they get themself or from friends
Or maybe online trade or gts
sudden remnant
i would travel a bit if i had the license to go to canada for toronto. i could go to indiana whenever i suppose
rare pumice
i feel like it's gonna be a very long time before i ever get a raging bolt if at all
sudden remnant
i dont have one either
hasnt mattered much to me personally cuz i like walking wake more
chrome knot
i would travel a bit if i had the license to go to canada for toronto. i could g...
toronto alr happened 
and indy is the first regional on champs
sudden remnant
toronto alr happened <a:FukingDies:694380769615020132>
i know that bruh 🙁 id wanted to go in january
chrome knot
it was aight
next stump
yeah the secret is either grind out both games or have a friend group you trust to trade you stuff
luckily seems like champions will alleviate some of that
most players you see on stream did not make their own teams in game
willing to bet $$$ on that
next stump
the community needs goats like you
chrome knot
next stump
he is shockingly busy for a professional pokemon player hahaha
he’s said before he barely practices before events
sudden remnant
world champ diff
chrome knot
i wanna be one of the people who recreate wolfe battles or like make the teams
would be a fun side hustle
next stump
I am wondering how the spectate feature will work in SV
no replays but can someone spectate wolfey (like an editor) and record the matches
90% sure no but would be cool
chrome knot
I am wondering how the spectate feature will work in SV
holy shit imagine u finish a round early 2-0
man i wonder how my friends are doin
spectate!! and the judges wont fucking yell at u for being in between the aisles lmao
sudden remnant
i dont think youd be able to do that cuz what if that person is your next opponent it tells you a lot
even if its OTS that doesnt show you their playstyle
chrome knot
what
sudden remnant
what if the match your watching your friend vs someone else
what if that person was your next opponent
chrome knot
im gona see it anyways if i walk over and spectate… or talk to my friend
sudden remnant
and thats like another issue with me going to a regional id be solo bolo
chrome knot
i mean youd have to be quite a notable name for people to care
rare pumice
what were the 4 pokemon that were given weather abilities in gen 7 again?
sudden remnant
speaking of caring about stuff i ended up scrapping mawile lopunny
rare pumice
i think it was torkoal, pelipper, and gigalith, but i can't remember if the fourth one was just alolan ninetales or if another old pokemon got snow warning
lost sun
what were the 4 pokemon that were given weather abilities in gen 7 again?
drampa is 1
chrome knot
alo tales
sudden remnant
drampa is 1
what
rare pumice
i guess cloud nine counts but i wasn't really thinking of that
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
it doesnt have a weather ability
lost sun
cloud nine not counted as a weather ability
sudden remnant
thats antiweather
weather is sun rain snow/hail and sand
+additional variants like the primal weathers
rare pumice
i thought gen 7 was the time when they added those weather buffs to pelipper and the others
lost sun
ye it is
sudden remnant
it is
lost sun
to peli and torkoal
sudden remnant
gigalith and ninetales as well
and then alolan ninetales also got snow warning
no ninetales got drought in gen 5
lost sun
thought u meant gen 7 pokemon that got weather abilities not just Pokémon that got them in gen 7
sudden remnant
lmao
rare pumice
so there wasn't an old ice type that got snow warning in gen 7?
rare pumice
i didn't really keep track of competitive relevant information until gen 8 so i didn't really know if abomasnow and vanilluxe had snow warning before or not
sudden remnant
yeah
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
unfortunate
rare pumice
it's kind of crazy to me how much more centralizing a format can get when you reduce the available team slots from 6 down to 4
sudden remnant
what
rare pumice
like i just mean, i feel like in unofficial formats i see a way wider variety of megas
foggy lodge
because they are not serious formats and people just meme
sudden remnant
like i just mean, i feel like in unofficial formats i see a way wider variety of...
those are for memes and content
rare pumice
well i figure that having access to more team slots has an effect on it but i guess
foggy lodge
Singles also usually has more variety of mons but that's because they manage with tiers because singles without tiers are even worse than some of the most centralized VGC formats
sudden remnant
since now it has to survive long enough to make an impact into a 6 mon team
hey mak do you think i could make a decent tailroom team with lucario z and ampharos
shadow wind
Singles also usually has more variety of mons but that's because they manage wit...
Zarude my beloved being a stall breaker 🙏
First recorded instance of leaf guard being a useful ability
foggy lodge
hey mak do you think i could make a decent tailroom team with lucario z and amph...
couldn't you find a worse mega than ampharos
foggy lodge
First recorded instance of leaf guard being a useful ability
what does that even do
sudden remnant
couldn't you find a worse mega than ampharos
yes
shadow wind
No status effects in the sun
sudden remnant
i could actually
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
So no toxic or para
And Zarude has honestly pretty good stats
He’s always bulkier than I think
And knock off allows him to beat out stall
sudden remnant
couldn't you find a worse mega than ampharos
audino, clefable, malamar
shadow wind
My singles knowledge vs my singles team building skill couldn’t be further apart
rare pumice
i still have the pink scarf zarude from gen 8
shadow wind
i still have the pink scarf zarude from gen 8
Zarude dada 🔥🔥
rare pumice
My singles knowledge vs my singles team building skill couldn’t be further apart
i have neither of these anymore
foggy lodge
My singles knowledge vs my singles team building skill couldn’t be further apart
Which one is which
shadow wind
My singles team building skill doesn’t exist for real meta games
sudden remnant
i still have the pink scarf zarude from gen 8
Zarude-Dada
rare pumice
i have the shiny zeraora from the end of gen 8 too, i used it to solo raid dens when i restarted the game last year
shadow wind
Like the actual tiers
Now random screw around oms I cook in
I miss you full potential 😔
rare pumice
my favorite battle tower team i ever made was for doubles in gen 8, it was a gigalith sandstorm team
shadow wind
350 cup is interesting but I don’t think it’s very advanced meta wise
And linked in theory is really cool but in practice I just find it boring
Makes the strong mons stronger and doesn’t give the weaker mons a chance
rare pumice
after like a year of playing doubles, i tried to play singles in gen 8 one time and immediately got swept by an galarian moltres, never touched it again afterwards
sudden remnant
i wish id played in gen 8 i wanted to use prime g moltres
and prime king von zacian
sudden remnant
also glad i started in gen 9 in the scheme of things cuz i got to run meowscarada for quite a while
rare pumice
i tried playing in gen 9, but the battles were just way too slow for some reason
it actually like, ruined playing competitive for me until the switch 2 came out, but by then it was too late to get back into it i think
bold geode
Warm beer theory
Excuse me?
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
whats wrong with it 😔
shadow wind
Excuse me?
The amount of power creep and at the point I had started at made it not extremely enjoyable which means that when I get to play a more balanced format it’ll be more likeable and easier to play
If you only ever have warm beer the first time you have a cold one it’ll feel like a new drink
sudden remnant
shakespeare? is that you?
versed river
i open competitive chat and see mega ampharos 😭😭🥀
versed river
its just raging bolt but it takes your mega slot and cant hold an item
and doesnt have thunderclap
shadow wind
Lack of coverage
versed river
i care about the giraffe i took it to euic
rare pumice
i guess mold breaker lets it cirucmvent lightning rod
sudden remnant
my favorite paradox beast is walking wake i have no room for the cloud giraffe
shadow wind
i guess mold breaker lets it cirucmvent lightning rod
Yes! I can finally hit Rhyperior with my Tbolt !
bold geode
If you only ever have warm beer the first time you have a cold one it’ll feel li...
Who's drunk uncle made up that bullshit
shadow wind
Who's drunk uncle made up that bullshit
It’s a real thing