30 elo isn’t the end of the world man
#competitive_discussion
shadow wind
It’s not grand finals at worlds
It’s the ladder
And if you can’t understand the unimportance of that then good luck ever having a good mental about mons
If the worst part of your gameplay is that you’re missing moves it means you’re still doing 90% of things right which in my opinion is great
solid frigate
Hell I literally got 3 full para in a row and that’s nothing
solid frigate
You are playing a game with 50% of the time is luck
shadow wind
“Oh yeah well I was this unlucky if you think you had it bad”
It’s just pointless arguments
shadow wind
You are playing a game with 50% of the time is luck
I’d say about 20-30% of Pokémon games are decided by pure luck
You can almost always play safer around a miss
waxen dock
and now i lost to icicle crash flinch
cyan smelt
god reg I looks challenging
cyan smelt
double bike, caly-i ogre, indeedee lunala, caly-i miraidon, seems tough to prep for
cyan smelt
i have a feeling if i play reg i i'm gonna tilt at leech seed caly-i
shadow wind
Run some wack imprison CIR then
cyan smelt
is anyone using eleki to speed creep caly-s
shadow wind
is anyone using eleki to speed creep caly-s
Definitely some teams but it’s not the most consistent answer
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
When’s the bug version of eweb dropping
cyan smelt
never, bug is gf's most hated type
tiny karmaBOT
cyan smelt
snarl does the same thing and doesn't require you to run a bug type
shadow wind
Unfortunately an average bst of 40
shadow wind
snarl does the same thing and doesn't require you to run a bug type
Snarl can miss
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
Upgraded icy wind
cyan smelt
L base kyurem
shadow wind
What a funny signature move
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
Crazy how mid it is
cyan smelt
crazy how versatile flutter is
shadow wind
Most ghost types have gross options
Lots of status moves
Then you pair it with 135 stats and you got the Swiss Army knife of Gen 9
cyan smelt
i miss using raging bolt tho, that's a fun mon to use
cyan smelt
cornerstone too
shadow wind
Gen 8 had a lot of really strong mons but Gen 9 made every single Mon a threat
cyan smelt
somehow ogre has survived gen 9 power creep
shadow wind
Yeah because rain is already the best weather and they can’t make a better rain abuser like that
Unless you just juice the stats which would be the worst decision ever made
cyan smelt
ogre is definitely cracked
shadow wind
Also Urshifu exists
cyan smelt
water spout too
cyan smelt
is ogre + bolt any good or is it usually the other usual suspects like torn and lando
cyan smelt
are ogre and bolt teammates
cyan smelt
i'm so out of the loop
solid frigate
Kyogre and bolt are fine but usually in double res really don't see them each other
shadow wind
Like raging bolt is just a really good Mon but I wouldn’t say it’s especially good with Kyogre
cyan smelt
if i want to use bolt i should prolly look at top cuts
solid frigate
CSR Zama likes Bolt
shadow wind
Yeah they need an Urshifu exterminator
cyan smelt
neither csr nor zama likes miraidon so i'd need a miraidon check because there's not really anything that hard counters that monster of a pokemon
solid frigate
i like using Chien Pao with CSR Zama at least
shadow wind
That’s cause it’s fast and has good stabs
cyan smelt
good moves too
solid frigate
do damage and die
solid frigate
pao is here to do Suicide bomber or support if you are running AV or bulkier sets
cyan smelt
i might need to start testing some shit
i've taken up some other hobbies now so I feel like I'm less likely to rage and am a more well rounded person
solid frigate
we'll see lel /j
cyan smelt
the only way for me to see is if i try playing again and see if i get tilted as badly
is kingambit still around bc that's my gen 9 GOAT
or is the power level too high in reg i
cyan smelt
sadge
well it had its time in reg h
i enjoyed using balance with gambit in reg h, that was so fun
vivid jungle
Hey I'm tryna make a team concept for pokemon champions, anyone care to battle me on showdown? Ruleset is Gen 8 Doubles OU
vivid jungle
isn't the first format a mega format
Probably, but I haven't found a format that lets me use Zeraora and all the other mons beside that one-
Is there a better one?
ocean pawn
isn't the first format a mega format
Yes
bold geode
You don't wanna see me when I'm angry
delicate glade
You don't wanna see me when I'm angry
ooh tuff 🤪
chrome knot
ooh tuff 🤪
what do ur pronouns mean
delicate glade
what do ur pronouns mean
idk
bold geode
pronouns are pretty important id say
delicate glade
pronouns are pretty important id say
no
delicate glade
pronouns are for when you're referring to someone but aren't considerate enough to use their name
but that's just a theory
chrome knot
@bold geode please read this
chrome knot
pronouns are for when you're referring to someone but aren't considerate enough ...
I think in many use cases this is just incorrect lmfao
delicate glade
I think in many use cases this is just incorrect lmfao
it's just a theory
chrome knot
not exactly a theory if its objectively false
bold geode
pronouns are for when you're referring to someone but aren't considerate enough ...
You should be respectful of people and their pronouns in any case and there's no debate, no theory, no nothing for that
End of discussion
chrome knot
i meant more look at it bc it read really funny
delicate glade
i respect peoples pronouns, but i use names so i don't have to remember them
chrome knot
like how is this smth you think of
chrome knot
i have a gif for you but it has to go in dms.
delicate glade
🥀
foggy lodge
X
bold geode
https://youtu.be/H0w4GX9eMdw?si=rRc9CIXyy4DfRo_t
LISTEN UP FUCKEES
FUCK MAX BEAT ME TO IT
Anyways
POKEMON CHAMPIONS WILL BE OUT ON APRIL 8TH
next stump
Let’s gooooooo
chrome knot
OHMYGOD I GOTTA GO TO INDY
next stump
chrome knot
he has tons of normal type attacks that could be niche uses
tiny karmaBOT
bold geode
Also Meganium's ability hmmmmm
Y'know I wasn't thinking about an ability like that but being able to fire off STAB Solar Beam in one turn is fucking fat
foggy lodge
Its good
But idk if its enough considering you could set drought with other megss
Idk maybe its fine
bold geode
Yeah but also it doesn't restrict you to using Meganium with Sun
I think Emboar got fucked tho
"What the other megas not new abilities? Yeah we just gonna give ya Mold Breaker, fuck it"
bold geode
LMFAO
I mean like
Look considering it's fucking Meganium
I think it's a big improvement
foggy lodge
WAIT IT HAS GROWTH
tiny karmaBOT
bold geode
I could see Meganium being used for sure
real prairie
"uses moves as if sunny day is in effect" ... so outside of solarbeam and synthesis a big fuck all?
real prairie
oh growth!
chrome knot
weather ball fire type
bold geode
How much does
tiny karmaBOT
bold geode
Holy fuck they just gave it a better Recover huh
@foggy lodge actually nah I think we got a gem alert
chrome knot
mawile yay
real prairie
its going to be a mental singles mon at the very least
knotty mirage
Is there a chance that mega bax will also get dragonize
thorny ibex
FERALIGOAT MY BOY I’m crying
bold geode
Wait it acts as if Sun is up
waxen dock
well
bold geode
So Synthesis also doesn't get reduced by Rain
waxen dock
megamegamegameganium will run solar beam?
knotty mirage
Can't wait to finally send my shalpha starter too Champions just hope there no paywall when sending pokemon from HOME tho 
real prairie
Would the 1.5x of its ability counteract being burned? could be nasty with a dragon type Facade
chrome knot
poison it or smth lmfao
real prairie
poison it or smth lmfao
suppose lol
chrome knot
hi im toxic orb snd just kill shit until you die
real prairie
hi im toxic orb snd just kill shit until you die
oh Emma
Swamp puppy can't hold toxic orb if its holding its mega stone silly
mighty stump
Why did I get Mold Breaker wtf
real prairie
how tf were u gonna burn it
I was thinking if someone else tried to burn it lol
mighty stump
Feraligatr/Meganium unironically
bold geode
Would the 1.5x of its ability counteract being burned? could be nasty with a dra...
Sableye and Mega Fera WHO HEARD THAT
chrome knot
please do not burn the gatr
bold geode
Why did I get Mold Breaker wtf
I'm sorry man, I can't believe they massacred your boy
bold geode
please do not burn the gatr
Do not the gatr
chrome knot
i watched a match where someone side burned zacian @ +1 and its like cool u dodged the sleep but ur a burnt zacian that does no damage
solid frigate
Mega Feraligatr when Dragonize 120 BP STAB Double Edge:
And with that pixilate style boost it should at least be fine with one intimidate drop
bold geode
i watched a match where someone side burned zacian @ +1 and its like cool u dodg...
LMAO
As if Zacian could do shit anyways
chrome knot
Mega Feraligatr when Dragonize 120 BP STAB Double Edge:
dragonite is faster
bold geode
WAIT WAIT WAIT
knotty mirage
So meganiun can always get +2 attack and spa growth with the new ability huh
bold geode
Emma
Are you saying Meganium just gets Fire Weather Ball all the time?
solid frigate
Emma
Are you saying Meganium just gets Fire Weather Ball all the time?
I’m pretty sure it stays that way
chrome knot
Emma
Are you saying Meganium just gets Fire Weather Ball all the time?
it should?
solid frigate
BRO THEY HAVE DUG MEGANIUM OUT THE FUCKING DIRT
Even if weather ball changes to water it’s still fine ngl
bold geode
it should?
Girlie, Meganium might be good
solid frigate
Cuz bro can just fire Solar beams like it has infinite Power Herbs
knotty mirage
Still need to be careful with the poison tho
chrome knot
mega gengar
bold geode
@chrome knot wait
Wouldn't Thrash on Mega Fera be stronger than Outrage 
chrome knot
uhhh probably i forgot that eas a move
solid frigate
<@224303371564220418> wait
Wouldn't Thrash on Mega Fera be stronger than Outrage...
Yeah lol
tiny karmaBOT
solid frigate
So basically either you choose Double Edge or Thrash
foggy lodge
POLITOED IS IN THE GAME
chrome knot
double edge gives free targeting but is 33% recoil
foggy lodge
bold geode
POLITOED IS IN THE GAME
Your chud son
solid frigate
POLITOED IS IN THE GAME
RAIN IS SAVED
foggy lodge
but pelipper is also in the game...
chrome knot
rain was already saved!
solid frigate
no I mean in Champions
Cuz before that there is not a single rain setter in that list serebii made
chrome knot
@bold geode if mega gengar was gonna be a balance piece who else goes on it
bold geode
PALAFIN MY CHUD SON, YOU'RE TOTALLY NOT WORSE THAN MEGA STARMIE
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> if mega gengar was gonna be a balance piece who else goes ...
Honestly probably like mostly anything
chrome knot
scream tail !
bold geode
Incineroar
I love how they're explaining battles now
This music in the trailer is kinda gas too
NO NO NO NO
PLZ NO ARCHALUDON
wild knot
solid frigate
I think Monke is now afraid of Steel Types that is not Zama
wild knot
Guess the dex entry makes sense now
solid frigate
Actually now I have so many teams want to try
bold geode
It shows bumps in the EVs
Hydrapple is cool
@chrome knot I'm buying a crop top in Champions
chrome knot
fire
i hope my character can 67 as a victory pose
also @bold geode
can u give a tldr on how rhe currency works
bold geode
can u give a tldr on how rhe currency works
Basically from what I know, you get the currency by literally playing the fuckin game and you can use it to train your mons or recruit stuff
knotty mirage
Now the question is the reg will just straight up allow every gimmick to be available or only mega evolution at first
chrome knot
no u fool itll just be megas only first
bold geode
From what I saw
Ability and nature change was 500 VP
Move change was 250 VP and I didn't catch how much it cost for EVs
knotty mirage
Because if everything is available yeah i think mega evo will get overshadowed hard by dynamax
chrome knot
i don’t see a world where some non compatible gimmicks come together in a format
bold geode
Also Champions comes out the day before a pay day for me so I may or may not have to save money for the starter pack (if it costs anything)
chrome knot
From what I saw
Ability and nature change was 500 VP
Move change was 250 VP and...
that seems like alot of playtime with mediocre garbage before i can use a real team
knotty mirage
Hmm should i buy starter pack or the battle pass first
bold geode
that seems like alot of playtime with mediocre garbage before i can use a real t...
Yeah but also like
- Indy is like what, a month-month and a half away?
- It depends on how much VP you get per battle
bold geode
Yeah imma probably buy both if I can afford it atm
knotty mirage
Welp now i'm not sure which one i want too buy both starter pack and battle pass or HOME premium plan
bold geode
Wait why am I collecting mega stones in ZA, I have to buy them in Champs LMFAO
Oh yeah items cost VP too
chrome knot
everything costs money bruhhh
chrome knot
gonna have to temporarily recruit some bullshit
chrome knot
monke lets compare our jank ass teams after day 1 LOL
knotty mirage
I think i prefer too just send my own pokemon on the games i have hopefully it's possible and no bs transfer like on pogo
bold geode
"I got a pickle"
chrome knot
im using 2 apples and a primarina i found off temu
bold geode
LMAO
I found this Starmie floating in the river, he might be an addict but I gotta pay these PokeBills dawg
sharp cobalt
Are we allowed to discuss the champions info here
next stump
yes
tiny karmaBOT
chrome knot
uhm
knotty mirage
Huh it does on ZA tho
chrome knot
ill trust that then i jus checked showdown on plza tier and it didnt come up
sharp cobalt
Meganium gets weather ball. What would be an ideal set 
Cuz you can run stabs (solarbeam n dgleam), recovery (synthesis) and coverage (earth power n weather ball)
chrome knot
also keep in mind @bold geode this could be a new leech seed cir lmao
bold geode
also keep in mind <@817628066020065280> this could be a new leech seed cir lmao
Honestly real
Leech Seed, Synthesis
waxen dock
does something happen if i forgot to unregister?
chrome knot
for what
waxen dock
special
chrome knot
no
lofty tartan
Weeeeell. May have to consider Indianapolis now 
chrome knot
ILL BE THERE
lofty tartan
If you need transfers for Champs I am sitting on a large shiny bank of extras. Since I'll have to retrain everything that I transfer, I won't be sending a majority of my dupes.
So just lemme know and I can help make sure you're stocked before the event 
lofty tartan
No worries. 😄
Just offering to help support the friendos 
Indianapolis is at a funky time for me - I'm just about to open my TCG store, so if I can get it opened before the event I should be really solid to leave for a weekend 
solid frigate
No worries. 😄
Just offering to help support the friendos <:GengHeart:67414712...
Ngl Mega Meganium Reminded me of “the sun is a deadly laser”
Cuz infinite Solar Beams is funny
lofty tartan
Fire Weather Ball without actually having to set Sun seems pretty good.
If it only got it 
Solar Beam is fine. 80 speed is wonky.
chrome knot
Indianapolis is at a funky time for me - I'm just about to open my TCG store, so...
woooaaaaaaa
lofty tartan
woooaaaaaaa
Bringing the heat to central Maine. We need a space for VGC events, and there's nowhere to play PTCG
tiny karmaBOT
lofty tartan
The only stores that sell pokemon cards in my area are big box stores
tiny karmaBOT
lofty tartan
Then Serebii should update it's moves because it's not listed here 
We also don't know what moves from ZA are going to transfer over into a mon's set.
Should be an interesting start
solid frigate
I can see a core being decently popular
But the core would instantly get ruined if Rillaboom made it in
lofty tartan
Ahh Serebii has split ZA moves and SV moves into tabs now. Has Weather Ball in SV but not in ZA.
chrome knot
weather isnt rly a thing in za
leaden fox
I'll have to update Pokémon HOME asap (got some sub still left on it, but will need more xD)
lofty tartan
Of course, it's just I didn't see the tabs at first
chrome knot
No worries. 😄
Just offering to help support the friendos <:GengHeart:67414712...
ofc i appreciate you always c: this regional team will be a bit more special with the name theme
lofty tartan
That's cool. 😄
I'm interested to see what happens in a Mega format. I'm just a wee bahbee
chrome knot
i gonna browse and see how mega gengar used to be built
looks cool to try if everyone is gonna gravitate to new toys
lofty tartan
I'm kind of holding off full opinions before I see all of the abilities and how that all plays out
Alongside just what is going to be legal or not in the first format.
sharp cobalt
If it only got it <:milk_shrug:1258133055147606176>
It does in sv
lofty tartan
I said that above.
sharp cobalt
Oki
bold geode
Oh
@chrome knot I've been trying to grow my hair out
chrome knot
ohhh lemme see?
mighty stump
Sick
Just watched the overview
Armarouge’s Armor Cannon is finally aligned
Assuming Mega Format for the formats
lofty tartan
That's actually really sick
Yeah the initial format is "M-A" so assuming like Mega-"A"
Whatever A will be
With the amount of Megas we have now, it should get pretty interesting
foggy lodge
Politoed gaming
mighty stump
With the amount of Megas we have now, it should get pretty interesting
I am incredibly disappointed in Emboar’s ability
Like why Mold Breaker
lofty tartan
Mold Breaker isn't terrible but it definitely got the short end, compared to the other two
mighty stump
Oh boy I can hit Flash Fire mons and hit Bronzong for super effective instead on neutral
Meanwhile MEGA SOL AND DRAGONIZE?
AT LEAST GIVE ME A SOLID ROCK EQUIVALENT OR STH LOL
dapper crag
It walked so Meganium and Feraligatr could fly
lofty tartan
Dragonize is pretty lit
mighty stump
It walked so Meganium and Feraligatr could fly
Im crying inside
chrome knot
Politoed gaming
mega gengar politoed🤝
mighty stump
Mega Chesnaught also still Bulletproof like bro pls
mighty stump
mega gengar politoed🤝
dapper crag
Im crying inside
I’m not, I was day 1 on Mega Meganium
mighty stump
Praying for Mega Crabominable
lofty tartan
Golisopod here
chrome knot
ive never been so excited for vgc
mighty stump
My adult life is interfering with VGC and now I have to be a normie instead of a sweat now
lofty tartan
It's definitely exciting to be a VGC player right now for sure
mighty stump
It's definitely exciting to be a VGC player right now for sure <:arkeknine:66950...
Aligned Armor Cannon
dapper crag
What if that list I saw a few days ago is right?
lofty tartan
My adult life is interfering with VGC and now I have to be a normie instead of a...
Yeah man I'm trying to balance but things are really clicking for me in life at the moment. I feel you
mighty stump
i don’t even think I’ll be able to pump blog content out
mighty stump
What if that list I saw a few days ago is right?
Send
dapper crag
Some source in China suggested these based on some anecdotal evidence:
- Froslass: Snow Warning
- Drampa: Drizzle
- Raichu (Unspecified): Electric Surge
- Eelektross: Something new
- Staraptor: Unclear, but attack boost after Intimidate
- Clefable: Misty Surge
- Darkrai: Bad Dreams
- Magearna: Soul Heart
- Baxcalibur: Thermal Exchange
- Zeraora: Speed Boost
- Golisopod: Potentially Tough Claws
- Crabominable: Similar effect reported as Staraptor
- Lucario Z: Prankster was suggested, but the wording is uncertain
- Glimmora: Probably Levitate
- Feraligatr: New ability (Dragonize)
- Pyroar: New ability
- Excadrill: New ability
mighty stump
Tough Claws is fire
Defiant would be fine
LEVITATE GLIMMORA IS FIRE
Clefable w Misty Surge but flying type kek
Drizzle Drampa means delayed Rain could be goated lowk
foggy lodge
Eat that spore
mighty stump
Eat that spore
Can’t even run Goggles
mighty stump
Do we care about Zeraora, are Mythics gonna be a thjng now still
foggy lodge
But tbh its a rumour maybe it's not real
foggy lodge
Do we care about Zeraora, are Mythics gonna be a thjng now still
I feel like they could tbh
mighty stump
Chesnaught 1v1 Amoonguss now
foggy lodge
Considering the usual argument for mythicals was because they were event exclusive mons
Now with champions maybe you can just get them in champions itsef
mighty stump
Mega Sol is crazy
foggy lodge
Solar beam is huge
chrome knot
Do we care about Zeraora, are Mythics gonna be a thjng now still
loud incorrect buzzer
foggy lodge
My problem with meganium was that it didn't have strong stabs
It still doesn't have moonblast but it has solar beam atleast
mighty stump
Doesn’t it get Gleam or sth
foggy lodge
Yeah
solid frigate
Some source in China suggested these based on some anecdotal evidence:
* Froslas...
Drizzle Drampa would be dope
chrome knot
its a gleamer but like
dapper crag
But tbh its a rumour maybe it's not real
They got one right but we’ll see if it holds up
mighty stump
Gleam/Solar would be not the worst
foggy lodge
But like previous to this ability it would have to use like energy ball and dazzling like
mighty stump
Sadge no Moonblast
chrome knot
142spatk compared to some of the actual crackhead megas is like eh
til gengar is 170 like ok sure
mighty stump
Ya
chrome knot
she is goth on crack
foggy lodge
Heatran 175🤠
chrome knot
i rly rly want a shiny gengar rhe mega is so fucking cool
mighty stump
Anyways remember the protocol people
New format? Play HO until someone finds a good Balance team
dapper crag
i rly rly want a shiny gengar rhe mega is so fucking cool
Hunt one in ZA
foggy lodge
New format? Play HO until someone finds a good Balance team
I already have something wujuu
dapper crag
Or whatever other game you have
foggy lodge
mighty stump
Are you meant to be Sand Veil
chrome knot
the word za made my brain type lmao
dapper crag
plza prob for chosen one mark
Sandwich time
foggy lodge
Wait it should be rough skin
chrome knot
thas fine
mighty stump
Do we have a dexlist yet or
dapper crag
No
mighty stump
is it just
dapper crag
A good portion of the new megas at least
mighty stump
Bring back everyone and lemme just run Specs Gholdengo Psyspam again
dapper crag
Probably like 350 or so mons at launch
chrome knot
Bring back everyone and lemme just run Specs Gholdengo Psyspam again
crit hydreigon team💔
mighty stump
Put Snorlax in
Play Balance from day 1
What was it like then? You could only bring two megas and use one?
chrome knot
ye
solid frigate
I’m just gonna throw Incin Sini Milotic and call it a day
dapper crag
I really hope Dozo/Mega-Sushi is a good combo
chrome knot
tatsu can only mega after dozo dies or if u don’t bring it
dapper crag
tatsu can only mega after dozo dies or if u don’t bring it
That’s what I figured
chrome knot
would be kinda weird to use esp bc people play to take a double ko
mighty stump
Well it will never not be Polarising still but no Tera now so how worried should we really be
dapper crag
Mega to revenge kill or clean up after Dondozo is taken out
chrome knot
Well it will never not be Polarising still but no Tera now so how worried should...
WOOD HAMMER
mighty stump
Is this Mega even worth it
chrome knot
not rly
mighty stump
thats what i figured
chrome knot
i can’t believe how underwhelming it is jesus
dapper crag
I’d probably run curly for the attack boost on Order Up
bold geode
I think you'd rather have another mega than Tatsu
chrome knot
literally anyone else
bold geode
I’d probably run curly for the attack boost on Order Up
Most common form
chrome knot
@mighty stump zamazenta in a format where the opponent cant turn into a ghost type🤩
dapper crag
Again still don’t know abilities so could be really good
mighty stump
<@250386799363489808> zamazenta in a format where the opponent cant turn into a ...
I miss Tera already
mighty stump
My day is getting worse and worse
No more Tera for my son
My other son got abilcucked
lofty tartan
You know. I'd be down with Tough Claws Mega Golisopod
dapper crag
Anything besides Emergency Exit or Tactical Retreat
lofty tartan
Yeah I was thinking I'd be okay with Regenerator even
dapper crag
Regenerator on Mega Golisopod would be pure evil
Switch out to heal and First Impression again
solid frigate
With Only one weakness I think it’s fine
Especially it’s was a water type before mega
next stump
Is Indianapolis gonna sell out seats within a minute
mighty stump
Yeah I was thinking I'd be okay with Regenerator even
If he Megas he doesn’t get the auto-switch tho
lofty tartan
If he Megas he doesn’t get the auto-switch tho
No I know.
next stump
thank you 🙂
lofty tartan
Gives me a little time to see what's happening before I pull the trigger. May end up skipping the event and getting in a little later.
Not a lot but a little
dapper crag
Pokéaim thinks Mold Breaker is a good case scenario for Emboar, but nothing crazy
next stump
helping hand your partner gholdengo
dapper crag
That’s not a bad synergy but wouldn’t use a mega for that purpose
sharp cobalt
I wonder if they will put all megas in
foggy lodge
lost sun
can u knock off mega stones before they can mega evolve
dapper crag
No
foggy lodge
X
broken wyvern
Solar Blade, Zen-Headbutt, Earthquake, Swords Dance and Oranguru with Trick Room, Follow Me, Instruct and Psychic 
chrome knot
who the fuck is this even about
lost sun
fr
dapper crag
No growth yet
broken wyvern
🤞
chrome knot
ts so ass
dapper crag
Even then I’m sure special is just a better idea
broken wyvern
Even then I’m sure special is just a better idea
Mhm
dapper crag
How would a Dragon Cheer strat be with Mega Gator? It could use boosted Dragon-type Slash for guaranteed crits
chrome knot
bad
molten oasis
How would a Dragon Cheer strat be with Mega Gator? It could use boosted Dragon-t...
Just click double edge
shadow wind
Bro why did they have to change the naming scheme of the abilities
“Dragon skin”
We wanted “dragonate”
molten oasis
Isn’t it Dragonize?
molten oasis
We wanted “dragonate”
Nah Dragonize goes hard
dapper crag
I’m saying they didn’t change any naming scheme
Normal, Sky, Fairy, Freeze, Electric, Dragon Skin in Japanese
shadow wind
Giga Impact could be really good too
Oh heck nah
leaden fox
Dragonize with Double Edge 😅
lofty tartan
Just click double edge
Thrash becomes better Outrage
leaden fox
Thrash becomes better Outrage
Honestly yeah
molten oasis
Thrash becomes better Outrage
Yeah that’s hype too
dapper crag
I still think guaranteed crit Slash could be a decent strategy
leaden fox
Yeah, Slash would be useful
molten oasis
I still think guaranteed crit Slash could be a decent strategy
Dragon cheer is pretty hard to use efficiently
leaden fox
But wouldn't have an easy increased chance since your Held Item would be your Mega Stone
gentle cragBOT
There's a 6 7 shirt in the men's apparel of my store
dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi
lofty tartan
There's a 6 7 shirt in the men's apparel of my store
It was made for you
dapper crag
Slash is already +1 crit ratio. Dragon Cheer is another +2, and +3 is a guaranteed crit. And yeah it’s only on doubles for a single target attack but it could be run on something faster than Feraligatr
bold geode
We actually joked about it at work
About doing a prank of just a bunch of us wearing the shirt to fuck with one of our managers
lofty tartan
You're gross.
bold geode
Hey it wasn't my idea ok
lofty tartan
Fair
bold geode
I just agreed
There's also an autism shirt in the same section so do with that info what you will
chrome knot
There's a 6 7 shirt in the men's apparel of my store
OMW
dunno if ur nearby but ill be in fort worth at start of may
bold geode
Oh that's cool
What you doing there?
chrome knot
theres a cs lan that im goin to spectate with gf
next stump
the meta is going to be dropping out of day 2 at Indy/NAIC to play the champions side events
everyone prepare accordingly
chrome knot
yeah the side events are crazy good for payouts
i always walk out with 2 booster boxes lmfao
next stump
wait hahaha i misspoke I meant LA and Orlando but yes you’re absolutely right
better prizing than the main event
5 bo1 wins in the cup on Sunday = booster box
insane value
next stump
I guess it makes sense because it’s $25 to sign up for the cup and they get like 100 signups so probably still decent profit
charred oasis
Mega Emboar got robbed...
Mold Breaker!? When Meganuim and Feraligatr got those abilities!?
Bruh!
chrome knot
its ok nobody likes emboar
charred oasis
I like Emboar! 
waxen flame
So now can we all agreed mega meganuim is the best mega out of the 3 lol
waxen flame
gatr might just go stupid bc its raw attacking power
Yeah but when its basically a solo sun team does that really matter lol
chrome knot
what😭
sudden remnant
APRIL 8TH??????
next stump
sudden remnant
2 weeks
leaden fox
I know I'll be playing Champions Day One 😛 (Once installed)
leaden fox
did they reveal any of the mons available on launch yet
All we know is the ones seen in the trailers; serebii has a list of the "known available mons" currently
sudden remnant
plz mawile plz mawile plz mawile plz mawile plz mawile
leaden fox
Mawile likely will be in it; since it has a Mega
leaden fox
But yeah, we should have many mons revealed soon enough; just no clue how many overall
leaden fox
https://tenor.com/view/spinel-pokemon-horizons-umbreon-headpat-pat-gif-155965526...
Love Umbreon, hate that character from the anime 🤣
leaden fox
That is fair xP
sudden remnant
but like surely they give me mawile right
i wish i had pokemon bank
id trade up my mawile from oras
leaden fox
I have my shiny Mawile in Z-A atm 😅
leaden fox
I still have Bank; but I think I transferred the mons into HOME already 😅
sudden remnant
but i want my goat dexio
(my mawiles name is dexio)
leaden fox
I still need to figure out what team to make for Champions as is xD
next stump
if there’s no PP ups pressure might actually do something hahaha
sudden remnant
i just wish weavile could actually like use the ability
leaden fox
if there’s no PP ups pressure might actually do something hahaha
unless it is more vp to increase the PP xD
sudden remnant
x to doubt
sudden remnant
double team swagger static raichu is disgusting
next stump
LOL
tiny karmaBOT
next stump
click spite into scarf urshifu and they just die
sudden remnant
why not cursed body gengar
you’re going for pp stall might as well right?
and then that one move that removes pp when the mon dies what was it called again?
if youre gonna be evil do it right
unless this is like they’re trying to be a villain but not a monster
sudden remnant
and then that one move that removes pp when the mon dies what was it called agai...
grudge
molten oasis
At least pressure is better in restricted formats
Only 3 lances or barrages Calyrex 
bold geode
Only 3 lances or barrages Calyrex <:CatStare:892867156096712774>
Technically 4
Or wait
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
would be 3
bold geode
I'm going to crash the fuck out
sudden remnant
5 down to 3 down to 1 down to 0
shadow wind
@foggy lodge
Guess who’s goated
They didn’t give me any drugs for it
Other than the numbing obviously
chrome knot
@bold geode i have caught 6 shiny haunters 0 of which have been birthday mark
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> i have caught 6 shiny haunters 0 of which have been birthd...
Damn
shadow wind
Dentists might be evil though
Thinking about it
I understand why people look like they got beat up after wisdom teeth
I feel like I got beat up
bold geode
im so over odds
dense latch
how was the process like
shadow wind
Sat in the chair then they numbed me and waited 10 minutes then came back and started torturing me
Cutting gums breaking the teeth in half
The works
Lowkey the numbing needles hurt the most
chrome knot
protip: rip out the stitches
sudden remnant
https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx78GeIkO05VjqDrYo1rNIcTCHGtEj-QB4
chimecho wolfey con perish
foggy lodge
Sat in the chair then they numbed me and waited 10 minutes then came back and st...
I had it too good
shadow wind
But they only stitched 2/3 of them so I just have a hole in my gums
foggy lodge
Maybe Canada sucks idk
shadow wind
Nah I think I booked the appointment wrong
I should’ve booked it with sedation
But apparently I’m a thug and got through it anyway
foggy lodge
You didn't book it with sedation??
shadow wind
Apparently not
I didn’t realize that not booking with it was an option
Thought it was a given
foggy lodge
But apparently I’m a thug and got through it anyway
How is it now
After this and the tattoo
chrome knot
I think I’m good
they’ll eventually feel like string and u can jus pull it out
i did that to all mine lmfao i couldn’t stand it
bold geode
protip: rip out the stitches
Pro tip: stab your fucking teeth
solid frigate
@rustic mountain ngl i was expecting more against that player
dull ibex
@bold geodeIm going to use stonjourner
bold geode
<@817628066020065280>Im going to use stonjourner
Do it you won't
dull ibex
Do it you won't
let me learn what stonjourner does
solid frigate
let me learn what stonjourner does
power spot+Supportive role if i remember correctly
tiny karmaBOT
dull ibex
power spot+Supportive role if i remember correctly
yeah it has wide guard which is hilarious
solid frigate
you can play an annoying supportive role with Wide Guard and Rock Tomb but i still wouldn't suggest using it over something like Helping hand Clef stuff
tiny karmaBOT
dense latch
W team
regieleki has surprised me so much in the games i've played
magnet mirai is pretty interesting but man the bulk on csr is so nice
foggy lodge
True
I like how if things don't go right for him he just goes for the nuzzle hax LOL
brisk crater
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regibo3-2566752217-hvcyuhe6n2boso1...
That last team you went against looked so difficult to counter
bold geode
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regibo3-2566752217-hvcyuhe6n2boso1...
He's commited
rustic mountain
<@669294124649676800> ngl i was expecting more against that player
why
-8ball do i bother goin for last minute ribbons in sv b4 champions release
gentle cragBOT
do i bother goin for last minute ribbons in sv b4 champions release
:8ball: Don't count on it
rustic mountain
rustic mountain
no y were u expecting more
bold geode
monke i remembered smth bad
It's ok
Me too
solid frigate
no y were u expecting more
Cuz I was expecting them to actually go for the trick room option (CIR Kyogre)
They did not even bring it
rustic mountain
im playin way more games where ppl only bring 1 restricted this go around
its weird, most times they should b bringing it
ngl u prolly couldnt pay me to play reg i now that champions is in 2 weeks
ill just take a brief hiatus
molten oasis
-8ball should I finish up my masterball grind?
gentle cragBOT
should I finish up my masterball grind?
:8ball: Cannot predict now
molten oasis
Tfym!
rustic mountain
-8ball wb now
gentle cragBOT
wb now
:8ball: My reply is no
rustic mountain
dense latch
im playin way more games where ppl only bring 1 restricted this go around
same, even a bit higher up on ladder
molten oasis
Alr no ribbons on my shiny legends ig
rustic mountain
i had some1 opt out of miraidon against me, theres no reason u shouldnt b bringing that
dense latch
i usually leave one behind only when it's a negative or some other mon clearly helps the matchup more
rustic mountain
another person csr
molten oasis
Mirai goes to like every game unless bro is on like, mono ground lol
rustic mountain
Mirai goes to like every game unless bro is on like, mono ground lol
i have 0 ground types
rustic mountain
i usually leave one behind only when it's a negative or some other mon clearly h...
same but like super rare
dense latch
i leave koraidon out sometimes when i've seen james baek drop it
molten oasis
I haven’t played, got bored
rustic mountain
reg i sucks tbh
molten oasis
Gimme champions so I can play mega Delphox Garchomp or snow with mega Bax
rustic mountain
i felt like it was ok first time now it feels terrible
dense latch
csr korai has helped me enjoy it for now but it feels like it's only a matter of time before i stop enjoying it again
molten oasis
i felt like it was ok first time now it feels terrible
The first 3 bo3’s I played when the format was announced was against scarf Mirai and CIR
rustic mountain
Gimme champions so I can play mega Delphox Garchomp or snow with mega Bax
heatquake seems cool
molten oasis
that was miserable
rustic mountain
lmao
dense latch
but hopefully i do enjoy the format enough to go to the special event
rustic mountain
csr korai has helped me enjoy it for now but it feels like it's only a matter of...
yea i think i might b sick of csr/zama and all the hate ppl build against it
molten oasis
ah yes I love when none of my mons are good for that mu
rustic mountain
even tho they the goats
molten oasis
I swapped to rilla over amoonguss literally because of that mu cuz I legit think it’s unwinnable
dense latch
i'm having a rough time against that csr zama paonite team from worlds
molten oasis
There’s so many guessing games it’s rough
dense latch
but i saw baek say it's a nightmare matchup in his showcase so i feel better
molten oasis
yea i think i might b sick of csr/zama and all the hate ppl build against it
It’s so annoying to fight tbf
dense latch
true bomb
rustic mountain
i get it, it just makes games really long and read heavy w/ wat tera do they have to counter csr and wen do they pop it
dense latch
csr mirror and wide guard mindgames get tough sometimes but it's bearable
molten oasis
I think the horses and bikes are just not fun mons to fight, ever
They’re all headaches
rustic mountain
csr mirror and wide guard mindgames get tough sometimes but it's bearable
i try and play in a way thats not relevant but even still the occasional imprison zama and shit can make it more difficult
random scarf mons also screw me over a lot
molten oasis
Damn not the imprison zama
dense latch
eleki has helped me a lot with some scarf mons
dense latch
eleki outspeeds even timid scarf chi yu which is neat
rustic mountain
oh right u never played w/ the gen 8 fossils
molten oasis
That Mon would have been fun this gen
molten oasis
oh right u never played w/ the gen 8 fossils
Looking at a9 arctozolt for Delphox Garchomp
rustic mountain
eleki outspeeds even timid scarf chi yu which is neat
yea i lost to an eleki team the other night, had the play to win and just didnt pull the trigger
dense latch
sand rush band tera water dracovish
molten oasis
I wanna play with them they look fun
dense latch
or scarf tera water strong jaw
rustic mountain
Looking at a9 arctozolt for Delphox Garchomp
is arctozolt confirmed in champions
molten oasis
Bolt beak(?) and fishious rend are stupid moves
molten oasis
is arctozolt confirmed in champions
Nope I’m coping cuz that dex is dogshit
rustic mountain
molten oasis
is any regional dex to u just reg h?
Okay look at the dex
molten oasis
The available mons of notoriety are:
incin
archaludon
sneasler
dnite
pult
gambit
maushold
sini
dozo/tatsu
dense latch
X
rustic mountain
bro megas make like half those dudes not even relevant
rustic mountain
that is very much not reg h
molten oasis
Look man, I saw arch incin Ursa and put it that way
rustic mountain
all gna b very strong but not the same way w/ megas around
molten oasis
Tbf that is assuming that is what the initial reg is, cuz I’m assuming it’s gonna be the za dexes
molten oasis
PLEASE GAME FREAK I WANT A BREAK
rustic mountain
or arch or ursa
molten oasis
and fuck sneasler nobody likes that guy
rustic mountain
im in the camp still that even if a mons been shown doesnt mean theyll b around or even allowed on release
molten oasis
I’m also in that camp but I’ve theory crafted around what we’ve seen and the dexes of the za games
molten oasis
I can play fox chomp either way so
rustic mountain
imagine chomps paywalled only
molten oasis
Delphox will not last past low power formats
molten oasis
imagine chomps paywalled only
rustic mountain
Delphox will not last past low power formats
idt many starter mons will outside the usual
molten oasis
Gotta play earthquake Ttar FUCK
molten oasis
idt many starter mons will outside the usual
That is a fair point
rustic mountain
especially wen megas become like oh im running my primal + other good restricted
molten oasis
Nah literally primals and like, mence or gengar rn
That is a format I actually think zacian will be good in 
Zacian gets to hit things for se instead of them turning into a fucking fire type
rustic mountain
this time i just switch in incin and wisp u
molten oasis
this time i just switch in incin and wisp u
You’re gonna switch incin on an ogre?
Or even better yet a landorous?
Switch groudon or incin then 
rustic mountain
incin regins supreme ill just wide guard ur spout/pulse w/ zama
molten oasis
rustic mountain
idk bout lando tho
molten oasis
Lemme have some hope man I want it to do something
molten oasis
idk bout lando tho
On paper it’s nice cuz it nukes groudon and can pressure xerneas but idk in practice
rustic mountain
nah i mean like in that position lando would prolly cook me
molten oasis
Oh, true lol
rustic mountain
lando seems solid
molten oasis
Ik incin will be, everywhere
But I also, 100% have no choice but to run primal groudon or even like, clam mega Ray
rustic mountain
shit man they could reverse intrepid sword nerf
molten oasis
rustic mountain
if i can switch zacian in and out and get that +1 back 
molten oasis
That means zama can too tho
molten oasis
Tho ig that wouldn’t feel different
Like zama sits on the field when it goes in anyway
Zacian has to really pick when it goes in
rustic mountain
zama is not gna wanna do that much wen its allowed next
no tera means its much more exploitable imo, still good but not this mon thats sitting on the field for a lot of the game
molten oasis
Calys actually die to sucker punch!
rustic mountain
sash but yea
molten oasis
Well yeah but at least it’s not a fairy type
I think miraidon, horses, and dogs will be solid
rustic mountain
no tera is gna b awesome for a lot of the restricteds cuz ur not like hey do they turn into xyz here or not
molten oasis
If Pagos shuts off the primals weathers that be awesome
rustic mountain
dude its pagos
molten oasis
Shit it needs Tera
rustic mountain
haha
molten oasis
I don’t really think I wanna deal with Tera, and megas, that sounds rough
rustic mountain
i hope we dont
molten oasis
Tera-able xerneas like hell nah
rustic mountain
weirdly enough i think tera only works w/ dmax
molten oasis
Huh, actually yeah
rustic mountain
u just cant tera ur dmax guy obviously
molten oasis
That could be neat
molten oasis
u just cant tera ur dmax guy obviously
But you could Tera to resist your opponents max moves, that be nice
rustic mountain
thats exactly my thought
i think it could create some nuanced dynamics wen approaching a match
and ofc like playing it thru wen u decide to max and potentially trynna get them to burn tera first
molten oasis
Yeah, be better than uh, the xerneas that can Tera+the primal groudon 
rustic mountain
xern sucks in dmax haha
molten oasis
Yeah cuz zacian and it doesn’t really benefit a whole bunch from it
molten oasis
Yeah
I am hoping to get my hands on ultra beasts and tapus, and the gen 8 fossils
They all seem really fun
rustic mountain
i only played w/ them in dmax so itll b interesting to see how they feel
outside of series 10 ofc but gen 8 fossils were kinda meh then
molten oasis
outside of series 10 ofc but gen 8 fossils were kinda meh then
I’m wondering if snow will actually get a slush rush user
Arctozolt is, so slow but, jolly hits 234 in snow so, it’s not horrible
molten oasis
u get....ceititan
That guys TRASH!
molten oasis
Well like, what does mans do into megas
rustic mountain
not w/ megas tho
cyan smelt
Getting to use dracovish again will be fun but it won't be good if pdon dominates, also isn't cetitan just a worse garmanitan
rustic mountain
Well like, what does mans do into megas
u threaten mence w/ 4x weakness
tiny karmaBOT
rustic mountain
thats all i got
molten oasis
Damn, 170 hp
rustic mountain
yea
molten oasis
And awful defense YAY!
rustic mountain
its defenses are rough yea hahaha
molten oasis
Hp? Brother explodes to a stray torch
cyan smelt
Give me back gorsola and i'll be happy, that thing does not die
rustic mountain
hp offsets some of that tbh
u can invest a bit to atleast make the defenses bearable, i played it a bit early on sv
rustic mountain
its not gna b good or prolly even allowed off rip so doesnt matter
its very format dependent
molten oasis
Indeed
rustic mountain
Bax getting slush rush would be a lot of fun, but idt it’ll get it
nah
too strong
molten oasis
Tfym too strong lemme have a real slush rush abuser
rustic mountain
Give me back gorsola and i'll be happy, that thing does not die
i played that a bit in swsh
was nice at stalling dmax
molten oasis
It has to fight excadrill and it probably loses to that guy
cyan smelt
Do you think it can cope with megas, tree
rustic mountain
defense wise yea just not sure wat it does in response
cyan smelt
True
rustic mountain
stalling dmax out was effective in and of itself, ur not stalling a mega really
cyan smelt
Dusclops
rustic mountain
nah dusclops has a role
cyan smelt
I want to use rilla again
molten oasis
I know, I know, but that seems common to me
rustic mountain
eh its around idk bout common
molten oasis
Or mons that are trying to be bulky is kinda common too
cyan smelt
Some mons just pad out the dex
rustic mountain
I want to use rilla again
its been around for so long
u can literally hop on ladder in sd or cart and play w/ rilla
molten oasis
Use rilla now, I want a break from incin rilla shifu man
rustic mountain
as much as i love that core, same
molten oasis
They’re good mons and they win me games, but I need a breather
cyan smelt
Connor and torrent suggested i use csr zama because bolt likes them as partners and they both hate shifu
rustic mountain
i hate scarf shifu not shifu in general
as a csr/zama player
but yea bolts a good partner theres like 1-2 comps that have it
cyan smelt
I felt most comfortable when i was using zama in restricted formats
molten oasis
Bolt, what does bolt even play on otherwise in double res?
cyan smelt
Just have to remember to click wide guard sparingly
rustic mountain
idk bout sparingly
i use it a decent amount even wen it nets me nothing
like if i get it wrong
molten oasis
Wide guard pressure is good pressure on ogre and horses
rustic mountain
u just gta know wen u click it even if they respect it ur still fine
cyan smelt
When i get home i'm gonna look up top cuts with csr zama
I get this feeling i'm gonna struggle with leech seed cir
molten oasis
Leech seed CIR is just annoying as hell in general
rustic mountain
get ready for longer games but its fine ive beaten plenty leech seed cir
molten oasis
They’re weaker, just bulkier
foggy lodge
If there are no pp ups dusclops got buffed lmfao
molten oasis
Anything with pressure got buffed
tiny karmaBOT
molten oasis
Yuh, anything with that ability got buffed
Calys would only get lances/barrages of 3 times
cyan smelt
Giratina stonks rising
molten oasis
Uhhhh
rustic mountain
also random but i had this sick read the other night on cart where i had fake out pressure on scarf chi yu w/ incin and body press to ko it but they had csr (presumably) in the back so i knock offed that slot and body pressed their other slot which was incin then they ragequit cuz they swapped in csr to the knock off and was specs so it was an ohko
cyan smelt
Eternatus stonks rising
molten oasis
Nah I’d be so mad
rustic mountain
dude def thought i was a magician
rustic mountain
i mean its like, wat could they do here where i lose ground? and thats the play
fake out body press is so obvious there
molten oasis
Yeah for sure
foggy lodge
And the best part is that if chi yu stays you arr still fine lol
rustic mountain
idk bout safe they stay in i might lose the game haha but like i was pretty confident that was the best option for them
cyan smelt
My greatest read of all time was when they sent out zebstrika (?) and volcarona against my shifu and chien pao and tera'd volc into grass and i sent the icicle crash into the volc slot and ohko
molten oasis
I realized a second late
foggy lodge
Reads are so cool
molten oasis
Cuz chi yu pressures zama
rustic mountain
i was tera water at that point and they locked dark pulse
molten oasis
Uhhh, flinches ig
rustic mountain
yep
molten oasis
Reads are so cool
Regionals when someone makes reads are so hype
rustic mountain
i basically risked a great position on them reacting to try nd remedy their own
and it worked
molten oasis
Yeah, good call
rustic mountain
was playin too passive in games the previous times had to learn from my errors
botching end games i should b winning etc
molten oasis
I overthink in endgame a lot
Lost a game predicting a protect and he ripped barrage when I had one turn of tailwind left
molten oasis
Indeed