#competitive_discussion
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Give me a break I play zacian normally
And reg f 2 sucks lol
Primarina also never clicked enough
Did you shove some of them up your nose like Homer
Why does GWeezing’s signature move confuse when Misty terrain prevents confusions
Gweezing blocks abilities so unless its manual misty cant go up
Unless you are using misty terrain with weezing then idk
The question was around it having Misty terrain and a signature move that confuses yes
Bro I’m in beginner tier
Just run a rillaboom incin urshifu core you will win
Nah Zacogre
vgc players descend on orlando regionals. it's the first weekend in april. there is no pokemon champions release date. no future format announced. there is no regulation at all
you sit across from your opponent for round 1. you hand them your teamsheet with six sash CSR on it
Yknow I’m kinda shocked imprison transform Smeargle didn’t see more play in the restricted formats of SV
Then again you kinda have to be on field and 2 turn setup
@strange juniper imma say something spicy you ready
I'll be so glad
And I mean SO glad
When everyone stops pretending like Volcarona is a good Pokemon
its a fine mon
Absolute dogshit
did you lose to one or something
Absolute dogshit Pokemon
I've lost to a Sableye before
Is Sableye good
Actually no no
why is volc bad?
I've lost to a Jigglypuff before
Is Jigglypuff good?
I'm actually not lying on that one either, I was playing the Reg I ladder and well uh
bro batman couldn't convince me to admit I lost to a jiggly
Genuinely speaking that bitch relegated to gimmick teams man
I hate it
Let's just say idk enough about Jigglypuff 
I folded under no pressure, I said it
anyways tera makes it resists surging strikes and burn the urshifu back
and its a zama counter
Yeah no honestly I feel like you gotta be a top tier fucking encyclopedia of knowledge to use Shadow Rider in a CTS format
btw monke are you struggling on ladder too?>
Cuz shitslop McGee gonna throw like the most random ass Pokemon at you that you're not convinced is even a Pokemon
And you're gonna be like "aw shit, that's a Normal type"
Nah I haven’t played SV in a while
I just don't really grind it enough or care how I do on that ladder
this is how i feel about showdown
I honestly don't care about SV rn
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is it?
Idk man, was it worth my 40 dollars
Everyone is waiting for champions
At the time yes
Now? Idk tbh
Once champions comes out SV dies
well rn scarlet and violet are dying games
If you bought it now then it’s not worth it
During launch? OH YES PLEASE
For vgc
They're not dead already?
If I can queue ladder games the game is alive
When that isn’t the case it’s dead
wait monke
so volc is a dogshit pokemon
does that mean I should replace it with ursaluna 👀
Yes
Nah I mean if it works for you
Don't just replace shit cuz someone else said something
Don't be a sheep fuckhead
It's ONE good thing is somehow walling all the Pokemon I like
But every time I use the damn thing no matter what, I never think it's valuable
Bet
Do I have to?
no
Thank God
Oh Volc on that team is fine
Red we should play a cart set in a bit
im down
im still picking gecqua tho
this is my old paste
volcarona was very good into zama/CSR and Koraidon
pretty bad everywhere else
I still haven't fixed my grimm snarl lmao
why koraidon?
I Struggle a little bit into koraidon and sun teams so some piloting tips would be useful
Volcarona + TR setter means you can get trick room up really easily in that matchup if you commit tera dragon (don’t always have to)
how is my volc set?
They run the risk of burning themselves + take insane recoil from rocky helmet + flare blitz
You don’t need the speed in my opinion unless there’s something you’re specifically aiming to outspeed
I think it was meant for a setup volc anyways
I personally think that grimmsnarl on that kinda team is worse than farig because you don’t have any set up that can take advantage of screens
mind if i ask what your spread does so i can steal it
and Miraidon is super weak to fake out
So my gameplan into Zama/CSR teams was to get TR up early and pressure down the CSR slot. 36SpA modest Bug Buzz + Foul Play from Farig KOs CSR inside or out of tera (assuming they’re tera dark)
so you always have that slot pinned down if TR is up
The DEF investment was just to be a bigger wall to stuff like Zama, CIR, and Koraidon
and a supportive moveset
236HP/196DEF/76SpD is what I ran
But yes full supportive moveset outside of foul play
I like how Fari gets stronger the power level is
We love the funny anti prio giraffe
so does incin
True, incin moment
no offense to you or your spread but i want to test out max max
Sure try out whatever you’d like
some people get pissy if you don't use their advice
omg small rant
No me asking for advice doesn't force to do every single change i am ever told
and there's nothing wrong with max max
eseed on giraffe?
yep
yummy
I've been looking an excuse to run giraffe ngl
I am down whenever for a set btw
Finna get to it
after i finish this game
@next stumphow necessary is fierydance and bug buzz?
I'm assuming volc?
yes
bug buzz you can get rid of
you need fiery dance IMO or another fire moves
I am liking struggle bug
Just realized Pokemon Champions is still going to be Scarlet and Violet meta we are never going to be free from this Hell
what are you talking about
we have no idea what the meta of champions will be
We will still be in Scarlet and Violet's competitive meta until Winds and Waves
no thats not true lmao
the first format of champions is megas
so thats already different
Do you really think it's going to be any different with VGC?
obviously
I can already imagine, Miraidon and Mega Kanga with Iron Hands tearing everything to shreds 😭
thats still different from what we have now
also they aren't going to start with restricted
For now...
idk you are just kinda doomposting for no reasons
we don't even know if the same restricteds will be legal when that time comes
Because I know the future and the future is Gen 9 meta until 2027
Venusaur being good again >>>>.
It's just not LOL
you're still awake?
oof may 1st reg f???
Honestly it is logical since the Global Challenge for Champions is early May; and they don’t tend to have GCs in the same weekend as Regionals/ICs
Though everyone who doesn’t want to do RegF is pulling out a little 😅
2025?
Yep
This circuit is 2025/2026
Next one will be 2026/2027
It’s how they usually do it
2025 was last year circuit
Yeah, I know it is a weird aspect; but they tend to do it a lot in everything 😅
they don't
its dupposed to be 2026
It's so over
See I knew we'd probably just play Reg F for an extra month but hearing it doesn't make me happy now 
Actually @next stump bro
You imagine people still look at that shit and ask "what format is Orlando guys"
Well we know 1st - 4th May will be GC for Champions; so don’t expect any Champions format until after that 😅
Imma be real
Orlando gonna be Reg F
no
It's gonna be Reg F
no
just cuz in asia pacific they have reg f
Watch; Champions will be late May for Regionals onwards 😂
doesn't mean we will also have reg f events
and this is proof to that
It's ok I know you don't wanna play Reg F anymore buddy it's ok here's your blanky take your binky
It's gonna be Reg F
tbh idrc if its reg f or champions
its just my speculation
Here is me waiting for the next rule set
For Champions specifically
Although I do believe I will be running Mega Charizard Y for sure 😁 Maybe another Mega if it lines up well
BRING ME CHAMPIONS ALREADY PLZ I BEG
Bro is traumatised by Iron Crown it’s insane
Already been designing a team for it 🤣
Atm; it’s Mega Charizard Y, Torkoal, Ursaluna, Porygon2, Jumpluff & Incineroar 😂
@bold geode Is there any existing mons you’d like to see get Megas mind you? I may end up saying Primarina with Liquid Voice as it’s Mega ability
I'm gonna jump off a cliff
Mega Infernape just cuz I like it
Mega Incineroar
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From what is speculated; no paradox mons will be used in Champions for a good while
So no Iron Crown hopefully 😅
Although would love them to add in events for Iron Crown to be available in Scarlet and Raging Bolt in Violet 😂
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wtf man LMAO
Fuck that guy
What makes people think that? Just that they haven’t been seen?
I’d assume there’s about 300-350 at launch and 184 of those are mega evolution families
I mean, it is ‘speculated’ not ‘factual’ 😅
I understand that, I’m just asking what makes people believe that they’re not there
We know 146 mons according to the families of all mons shown, 67 from families with megas. If we assume that all mons in mega families are available, that’s 267 mons known. So it’s just the ~30-90 we don’t know
I’d assume starters and pseudos for starters
39 of the listed total is starters. There are 81 total, but the unknown includes the Hoenn starters, so that’s up to 296. 7/10 pseudo lines are in, leaving Bagon, Goomy, and Frigibax. Since only Goodra doesn’t have a mega, that only adds an extra 3, so my ASSUMED TOTAL is at 299
I mean tbh I feel like they wouldn't be
There's possibilities for them just to do a LZA dex and there's also other dexes they can do without them
Not saying it's not possible, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they weren't allowed and tbh I feel like it'd be good to not have them for at least a little while
I love the paradoxes but I’ve heard the horror stories of what they’ve done to SV competitive, especially Flutter Mane, Raging Bolt, and the legendary duo. I’m neutral on it, if they’re there I’ll use them
can we have a few months where your option for a fairy type immune to fake out is mimikyu again
I specifically shiny hunted a 0 attack Flutter Mane. He’s very grumpy
If my tally does end up being the case, depends if those extra 50 or so mons are coming or not
And if they include the paradoxes
That’s only 22 mons including the legendary duo and the beasts/swords tbf
🥹
i really hope we get a low power format to start champions and its not incin rilla indeedee etc in from the jump
Those are low power mons, this isn’t Smogon
First season is gonna be focused around megas
You didn't just call incin rilla and indeedee low power
I’m saying that official formats usually don’t ban mons just because they perform well in a certain ruleset
It’s completely arbitrary
Dont diss my goat indeedee-f
Too late, Incineroar is already confirmed
one of my big semi realistic hopes with a game like champions is that they do more creative rulesets
I really hope that that message on the trailers of "pokemon shown may not be available on release" refers to Incin Lol
But considering Incin is like the ace of one of the NPCs on champions
Idk man
It said that?
Yeah Incineroar is in at launch for sure
Guess we’ll see
About moves like Whirlpool and Infestation, will the opponent be free from those attacks when the attacker switches out?
yes
It doesn’t make sense that mons shown in the game wouldn’t be there on launch but what do I know
I really think they’re going to alter how they’re doing rulesets and what pokemon are allowed
They should be way more flexible now that pokemon can be added and taken away pretty much instantly
No need to catch/train/etc. like normal games
Still, it'll be nice trying out all kinds of strategies.
But there’s permanent recruitment, doesn’t that imply that the roster is only going up? That being said we could have specific categories of Pokémon allowed or banned in certain seasons
@next stump BTW why rock ogerpon over water shifu?
I don’t think they’re going to target specific mons like Smogon does
a second redirection option for CIR mostly
Ah
im not dissing indeedee i just want a format to feel a bit different then it has w/ wat options are available

See I feel like a few of those staples will be around at least but like
I'm cool with a few, not all though
Thing is I feel like what should happen is a chance of variety but with it staying as balanced as possible and not a complete shit show
And part of the balancing aspect is "who's allowed"
well see, wonder how close to w/e the decided release date will b that they let us know
id hope for more conscientious planning on format decisions but who knows
Skraw tweeted about it and I'm just scared that champions will be just reg H teams + a mega
not a great start imo lol
yikes lol
i like reg h but after so much time in sv that really wouldnt b my fav, atleast off rip
It probably will. What did he say?
That being said I thought I heard we will only be doing megas in the first season, so no tera
Yeah
I figure like Incineroar would be in or Amoonguss would be
Few but not all
Cuz in terms of balancing like some of them gotta be there
I can't wait for earthquake mega garchomp next to talon
Not really
yes really
No not really
yes yes really
Mega Garchomp is objectively worse than base Garchomp
I have faith in Z being better
Funny thing
I think it's actually even worse than the old mega
Like unless the ability is absolutely fuckin crazy, it's just worse
Because it’s now a mixed-special attacker and loses ground type?
Moreso the ground type loss
Losing Ground stab is so bad for a frail attacker like that cuz Steel types can handle you easier
Garchomp Z sucks
I guess we’ll have to see. 151 speed is still absolutely nuts and no more 4x ice weakness. I guess if Z’s get some kind of gimmick or if it gets some crazy ability
I’d rather have a 4x ice weakness and stab ground coverage
Oh it's good speed but like
You're so frail that you get redirected and hit once and you can lose your mega easily which ain't great
And potentially missing a KO cuz you lost that stab is bad
I just really don’t see SV mons being in, off rip, only time will tell
I hope not I don’t want reg h + megas
It’s definitely cautious optimism. Obviously can’t really know until we know what abilities they’re running
My boy boy absol
I really want Absol Z do be some kind of good
Looks like we’ll have a few but the statement that not every mon shown may be available puts a wrench in things
I know bro
I know :/
its frailer than chien pao
Wants sash too much, would really need an ability to make it pop off
Like okay maybe it’ll have a chance
Sounds like a Calyrex Shadow hard counter unless it’s scarfed but again we’ll see when it gets its ability (Probably Tough Claws)
Cuz it outspeeds shadow rider
BUUUT it has to have a good ability
Anyway, guess we have to deal with sneasler Archaludon again
Arch is gonna be fun to deal with
I just had my biggest throw ever man LMAO
what if it gets a variant of shadow shield 🗣️🗣️
I doubt it gets that
I had to tera rock ivy cudgel a Hatterene to win and I didn't because I thought tera cudgel didn't kill
would be cool tho
And it would have killed
Brutal
I think absol is most likely getting tough claws
Just based on its design
I wonder what buffs trick room will get
which wont help it at all
236+ Atk Tera-Rock Ogerpon-Cornerstone Ivy Cudgel (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Hatterene: 146-174 (89 - 106%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
bro probably dies to an aqua jet from anything relevant
Mega crab
Tho idt it’ll be better than ursaluna
Go go gadget facade
go go gadget get undersped
Don’t set tr on it?
doesnt stop them from setting the tr
Eh, anyway that’s not the point
also even if it beats ursa doesn't make it better
Ursa is overall a better tr mon
Build in spore immunity, way better typing defensively (fighting ice sucks defensively), and, Ursa hits like a freight train
Oh
Mega crab has to compete with mega Mawile LOL
just you wait til the primals are back
im so excited
ill be using one of them, tfym lmao
i’m gonna be running kyogre
i want megas only to play weezing for another 3 years yesyesyes
what weezing gotta do with megas
i don't follow
Almost all megas depend on their abilities
so judt dont megs my mawile until i kill it no biggie
nah
cuz mawile doesn’t really care about losing intimidate
Mega Crab has great stats but the typing is definitely a problem and ability is unknown
I doubt they are giving it shadow tag
There's already a ghost type mega with shadow tag
so?
Is like giving dnite aerilate
who cares
You are just making them compete
they do different things
i mean pinsir and mence both have aerilate
I think Clefable is getting Aerilate too
But they are much different
............
just why lmao
can i just say poor audino
Because it literally has one Flying move
who tf wants a support mega
Would you stop
Audino is such a L mega
No
No weezing early I wanna use my megas
its design is pretty it just doesnt do anything
Exactly
Nah no intimidate
Hyper cutter, avoid incin intimidate
True it could go either way
Actually if they give shadow tag to mega chandelure primal groudon + mega chandy becomes super broken
Mawile megas on the spot anyway
true i could run hypercutter
Get fucked no switching to primal kyogre or ray lmao
well with a weezing shutting off my huge power i wouldnt want to

175 BP heat waves in the sun, hell nah
NO!
GENUINELY WHAT DOES THIS THING DO
80 spa lmfao
Die
its bulk is pretty good but thats it
I mean people are gonna use it for yt content probably
Tank a few hits
103/126/126
And it doesn’t have regenerator…
"anti meta mega audino team!" Cuz it gets like stores power and probably something to boost its defenses
Just use cresselia lmfao
It’s literally better in every way
its movepool is huge tho
It doesn't get stored power LMAO

Funny enough that thing has use
But it’s not mega iirc
Yeh but that's base
Big movepool =/= good movepool
Base probably could do something back then
not its mega tho
its movepool is good just no stored power as Mak said
Lowkey it’s better without mega’ing
No fairy stab.
The mega was suppose to be pure supportive
Which ummm VGC doesnt want these mega that is just pure support
Actually look at its movepool
Regenerator gotta be top 10 abilities
It doesn’t get any fairy stab
its weak as fuck anyways
So basically Garchomp
You get coverage sure but I’d rather have fairy stab than normal stab
60 SpA btw
How do they manage to fry some one stages so badly and then others are LeBron
I could go on
Examples
Flamigo
Pretty sure 65 SpA with Dgleam still does some damage
Or play rough for physical
Tatsu and Dozo
whimsicott is also a support and it can go without moonblast
Flamigos good?
Zangoose 💀
Yes?
Flamigo is good as long as the power level is low
When the fuck does whimsi NOT run moonblast
seviper
ive run energy ball a couple times
that's just bad ngl
Even Hawlucha can do stuff
Why? Moonblast is better in like every way
On my mono fairy team I needed grass coverage
Chlorophyll + growth whims set dropping when?
I mean, it’s not a bad move I guess
Tomorrow
lol
Still Whims has to use Moonblast in most formats
its literally grass moonblast it does the same thing
False
5 BP matters
Lowering Special attack is too valueable
the 30 spa drop is insane lol
And it’s 30% to drop social attack
Also more pp
And look at its physical variant
Bro moonblast is broken 😭😭
Moonblast is lowkey a damage control move
special propaganda
More pp
More Chance to Nerf people
Makes Raging Bolt living miserably
WHY DID PHYSICAL FAIRIES GET FUCKING ROBBED
How do you kill an electric seed Lunala behind screens spamming moonblast
Because there’s 2 of them in existence
dark pulse
I don’t care!
that shit gonna do 30%
It be nice if zacian didn’t have a chance of missing fairy stab
I usually just /forfeit and it gets it off my screen
with a chance to flinch
Honestly I don’t rely on flinch chance on dpluse ngl
I’ve been flinched by dark pulse like, twice
Who even runs dpulse other than Chi yu right now
No one cuz there’s like, no dark special attackers rn
I've flinched with dark pulse ngl
how about kings rock best up
Restricted format some Pagos do but that’s it
So yeah only Chi Yu
Pagos should 99% of the time run ep
On specs it runs it
Specs Set before Sleep talk stuff
Specs Pagos ran dark pulse
Oh yeah specs sets
What a mid pokemon
Tera starstorm earth power dark pulse and tri attack
Word
Gets resisted damage t1, Tera’s into a super bulky power house, and it’s still mid
I mean when you have a move like Tera star storm that’s stab and 120 it just does more damage on neutral hits
its for the content
I'm sure that's the only time Andrew clicked hyper beam on his whole run
that loses stab when you tera cuz pagos is still a normal type
I mean it’s the only way to kill that Calyrex Ice
just make stellar pagos a mega, it gets 100 stat points🤷♂️
You can see both of the dogs as megas too
Actually Pagos would still not gonna do well in Restricted formats even with Tera
Why is everything mega coded lmao
Literally everyone’s favourite mechanic
they only gain like 20 stat points and some more just get rearranged
20? No
In competitive they did not but casual probably,just depends on which mega
Oh huh it used to be 60
40 excuse the fuck outta me 😑
It’s still mega coded
You use an item to go into a more powerful form
That’s what megas are
40 is still fine
You don’t want Zacian and Zamazenta to get 100 bst increase over that
rayquaza wants a word
And it buffs the most important stats
But primals do
So those 40 bst is not a waste
And also rayquaza is, smth else
rayray is the MC istg
Rayquaza is AG in singles Eyes
Meanwhile VGC:4th at best in Gen 6 (fuck Xerneas)
in champions how are we gonna deal with xerneas gang
Zacian
Actually there would be lot more options
And yes Zacian would be very strong against it
idk about running 2 steel types 🫠
Steel types are goated
altho steel fairy is like the best typing in the game
Why would you run two steel types on a team
What’s the other one-
Lowkey I’d run like 4 steel types if the team allowed it
mega mawile
You don’t run Mega Mawile with Zacian anyway
watch me
Nah
😝
what item does bloodmoon like to run
lorb as far as im aware
Lorb in general
Lefties if you want to run that Tera Electric Yawn set
Assault Vest for Extra Special bulk and Vaccum wave
Lefties Tera electric yawn 😔
The Reg H special
This set is still cursed and I hate it
I very much dislike it too
Like the Tera electric was extremely niche and I don’t think it was the best option
Tera Electric is fine
Yawn is like why
It was for Ghold and not taking making super effective hits but something like steel probably worked better
Eh yawn is super disruptive and kills a lot of teams
Forcing a switch can be game winning
And yawn in all honesty is a super broken move
Cause the sleep always goes at the end of the turn
mawile had no relevance at all in 2016 during the big 6 era
Yeah cuz groudon rocked your shit
And you have better Megas
do not insult my child 😔
i love mawile
i wish mawile got liquidation do you know how fucking cool that would be
Tera water better tho
Water or steel or fire
Just not electric
You just get clowned on by other BMs
Cause the whole point was a steel resist
Or a big part anyway
Electric was just not committal I guess
Extremely neutral but still resisting steel
That’s the thing about vgc
You can reason out 99% of decisions
Which I find extremely awesome
Bro might just be in love with the process and not so much the result
Maybe
Lowkey the learning mindset is the best one
True
There are so many teams that do well and the decisions on teambuilder don't seem to make sense at the start
There’s some teams that I still don’t understand the logic behind them
But that’s the beauty of it
I don’t need to understand it
Sometimes you just will never understand cuz
Everyone builds in a different way and for different stuff
screw it im doing it
Yeah its the beauty of the game
Which is why I always build my own teams
im replacing hands with bloodmoon
I love understanding the team I’m using
see the way i see it is I don't really need the fake out pressure personally
and bloodmoon gives me a much more offensive option in tr
True
I understand by using them atleast
Or atleast the surface level
Lowk best part of the game is understanding your team weakness and strengths like it feels so rewarding
Maybe just me
hello teto person 😁
Prepare for trouble
and make it double
People did that with Gengar LOL
Shadow never Scarfs
Also you want a hard counter to CSR?
Fuck Mega Kang
Greedy ass bitch
Oh yeah incin will be much more effective into the Calys now
No Tera to save you now
- Good Lord above plz do this
- In regards to another message, the thing is Mega Crab might also be good too cuz look at that fucker
Exactly
That thing is probably getting Gorilla Tactics
I’d love to see Gorilla Tactics crab
Idk if that being it's ability would make it worse or if it'd make it better tbh
Much better
Like it can't Protect but by God will that shit HURT
Destroys everything
Yeah but, Ursa
If Ursa is legal idt it get to do much
We're talking about giving a mega evo a built in Choice Band
Yeah but if Indeedee in the game well then
If gholdengo is in the game
At least you ain't gotta worry bout Fake Out until Rillaboom hits the function
Also you're talking about Ursaluna as well sooooooooooooo
Like it's Ursaluna
Nah it’s real
Like yeah you brought up hydrogen bomb during rock paper scissors, cool game dude
who's the coughing baby
You
you're just jealous of my bloodmoon
So bad at the game you got bubonic plague
I fucking hate crits
I know they are necessary but it feels like garbage to lose to them
I want to try koraidon what duos should i try
Well, yeah but I feel like it has to be brought up in a conversation about tr mons
CSR or Lunala
An IQ too high?
No just lazy
Cringe
Go back to munching crayons gng ❤
You're just jealous cuz you can't have any
Raw concrete tastes better.
And you call me a freak
Ig that's anti synergy huh?
What should I replace indeedee with then
Nope
Why
Lorb korai run close combat as well
And why mental herb you should never get taunted with an indeedee next to you
We are replacing deedee
Flutter would be better over moon, korai and moon don’t really do much with each other
You’ll lose the mirror to korai
I want a tailwind setter
Koraidon doesn’t need a tw setter
With flutter you have icy wind+flame charge for speed control
And Lunala can set tr up if it gets put against tailwind
Sash moonblast icy wind shadow ball protect max max evs
Hm
Chi yu?
You don’t want chi yu and incin
I like chi yu here but not when you already got incin
Why?
I think worlds ran an Ursa(?)
They have little overlap in roles
Unnecessary weakness overlap
Yeah worlds team was chi yu and ursa with Lunala
The runner up was CSR with incin instead
🤔
And bolt and lando over flutter and ursa
So just swap in ursa Luna? Here
That’s fine yea
And ursa is just my tr sweeper yeah?
I still don’t think mental herb Lunala is the way to go but if that’s what you wanna use then it’s fine, I’d prefer pherb meteor beam here personally, Yeah
Mhm mhm
And make it double
https://pokepast.es/4053bb83fac1d9fd how do we feel about bloodmoon here?
we lose fake out pressure but gain alot more power under tr
plus maybe bloodmoon works outside tr?
im open to changing the bloodmoon set if need be'
+1 252+ SpA Quark Drive Iron Crown Helping Hand Expanding Force (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 76 SpD Tera-Fire Calyrex-Ice Rider in Psychic Terrain: 229-271 (110.6 - 130.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
this mon is so gross man LOL
Bro this Mon is not gross
+1 max invest quark drive hh in terrain and it only does that much
Think of how insane that is
Specs Miraidon does that
Splash plate Kyogre does that
I honestly think the iron crown hype is unjustified
Yeah it’s a good Mon, psychic steel is a good defensive typing and in a world where it has a free lorb and expanding force it’s hard for it to be bad
I mean its not a free lorb cuz most the time you need the booster energy
Get that fuckin thing away from me
By free lorb I mean lorb without drawbacks
It’s a 1.3x damage multiplier with absolutely zero drawback
So true, indeedee psyspam is jsut outclassed by calyrex trick room this reg
took Cobalion to watch Back to the future and Tron
And he become robot menace
Now hes a high special attacker
Only psyspam that’s viable in restricted formats is CSR and Lunala and even then Incin just clowns on them
Although Tera fighting Tera blast on CSR was pretty cool
I remember Maya used that on her Pawmot team and that was sick
Thankfully I had a counter team so I only had to not get outplayed by the best player I know
I honestly miss Reg G
I love lunala but it requires you to hit that tera button so much
But meteor beam with herb is rlly good
When you hit
I dislike betting my entire Incin mu on hitting a 90% move
When Incin is everywhere
Would rather go Tera water Tera blast or something
I remember I was playing Groudon Lunala and my entire Ho oh MU came down to meteor beam
I missed every other time
I should’ve just used Gravity
What was I thinking
True but even if you miss you get that spa boost
And the lunala i run is quite bulky
My point was more so that if you miss now your strongest mon can’t hit Incin
A +1 Lunala at most does 30% to Incin with Moongeist
But I do also agree with power herb because making knock off weaker is sick
He does over stay his welcome every time
But imagine how Kyogre and Miraidon feel with that monkey around
Now with him basically being one of the mascots of champions and vgc
Ik hes here to stay
Minspeed indeedee wins terrain though
Oh yeah Rilla is definitely easier to counter than Incin
True
But Rillaboom hard counters way harder than Incin
Indinidate and knock off are both so infuriating
Unless your name is Zacian Crowned I guess
And fake out
Fake out is pretty annoying but i think ibtimidate and knock off is where incin becomes super cancer


Parting. Shot.
But I'm also in the camp that doesn't view Incin as cancer. He's a stop gap for all the insanely busted stuff
Mega Scrafty has potential to be super toxic too
honestly same
It's a necessary evil to regulate how the meta develop
if Incin is not here we have whole other problems
idc if incin is annoying
at the end of the day, it was doing it's job
This is not serious
Pokémon what the fuck are you doing
Conner its real
Although maybe it’s an April fools thing
Groudon is back,,,
Yippee yippee yippee
But also I have to be a grown up starting in April so I won’t be able to grind ladders for 10 hours a day
Delaying again
Bro what the actual fuck are they doing
They are actually shooting themselves in the fucking foot
They put 4 people on the development team and realized it’s going to take another year
orlando reg I???
You hope it’s 2 weeks
Why no championship points?
Cause it’s going to be like a week after champions releases and it would be unfair
It would just be a “who can pay the most and make a real team” gc
Nah that's still a lil odd
@foggy lodge yeah so how fucking cooked are we now LMAO
Bro honestly no fucking wonder they took so long to announce shit
I'm honestly wishing they didn't still
Dawg, why
They literally went “play restricteds for 2-6 weeks” like man
why are any of you surprised?
Cuz they didn’t give us an end date
And we dont know when champions releases besides April
Bro thinks it’s still coming out in April 😭😭😭
“Hey guys we decided to delay the game until we felt like it was ready”
I really don't know what they are trying to do
Cuz it's a dog shit idea
Cuz japan needs the global challenge tu qualify for japan nats
Orlando is the first week of april
They announced the format way too late for no reason
For thr circuit for a bit we're going to a format no one liked that maybe 5% of players wanted to go back to if we're being EXTREMELY generous
Okay
They've been giving us formats people wanted for the whole season, why do this now
Apparently the global will be used for japan to qualify for japan nats
It's just TPCi regions that won't get points
Aight so basically there's no point for TPCi players to play LOL
Besides oh look a Venusaur
And getting used to the champions format
they need to announce to M-A
We have reg I until LA Regionals
I mean its cool for TPCi regions
At least
Cuz the game will probably be released in like the firts half of april
And that's not enough time to adapt
The thing is that TPCi regions will play for fun and japan has to qualify with it lol
Well non TPCi regions
Not only japan I think
Bro
NAIC isn't on rk9 yet is it
I don't see it on there thank fuck

I think
Ugh idk
I mean its already announced that champions is being used in some non tpci regions
Malaysia for example and that's may
NAIC is June though
The thing is do we rotate to champions alongside them??
Hopefully we're using it by fucking June right
I stg if Worlds is the first Champs event
It may sound weird and even a bit frustrating that Points won't be awarded, but I honestly think it makes the most sense, especially if the game comes out late April. As someone who went through the very first EUIC 2 weeks after SM came out, I can say it's not very fair.
Okay my bet
Reg I is just an emergency action from TPCi
Reg I is only april, champions releases on the first half of april, and then on may we are playing champions
That or some shit happened and it's a panic button
Btw Reg I BO3 ladder is already up
@foggy lodge I was gonna come in here after my first set and go "yeah I'm top 500" and then I see your ass above me
I thought it meant Reg I was the end of life season
LMFAO
I’m not, yeah no zacian this time this sucks
This is miserable
Forgot how fucking bad it feels to play kyogre
It's ok, I blow hot ass anyways rn
1-2 in sets so far and lost against what is objectively my best MU
Time to get on another alt so I'm not fighting dog shit for the next 5 sets
So.... people are mad that we get no CP in the next GC during Champions 😅
At least in the TPCi regions
Honestly I would be super worried about the whole thing of reg I until the end of SV
But once champions comes out I'm not touching any SV format again and I don't play majors so
Go CSR! Give us your eighth failed tournament win! (Jk I know it'll win two of them)
I wish I get to see Terapagos make it to finals and fail again.
Calyrex-Ice @ Lum Berry
Ability: As One (Glastrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fighting
- Glacial Lance
- Body Press
- Trick Room
- Imprison
Lmao
What?
Give points for what?
Are you sure?
yeah
Something really bad happened with champions
There's no way this was the season they planned
https://x.com/Pokemon_Champs/status/2032501950084743492?s=20
@upper zealot Yes we sure
This is the official account for Champions too
I hope it’s not to close to realese like I wanna prep😭
If I participate ofc
The GC sign ups are 23rd April until 1st May, then GC starts 1st May to 4th May
So I'd imagine we'll get Champions 1 - 2 weeks beforehand
Though no date announced for it's release yet
My bet is april 9th
Considering that non TPCi regions have to actually prepare for the GC
2 weeks seem like a fair amount of time
Oh we got dates
Thanks
Just one shotted a kyogre with an iron treads
Kinda crazy
Well not really but ok
@next stump how did Reg I become like so much worse immediately
Reg I is awesome what are you talking about
Dude my first 2 games were against scarf Mirai and CIR which Zacogre gets wrecked by
So I went back to Zac Mirai 
Reg I rules
Sounds about right
Wait doesn’t Zacian beat both of those mons
Hypothetically
CIR is just a punching bag in that mu the only real threat is Miraidon
But scarf Miraidon definitely causes problems for Zacian
Does edrift kill no Tera?
I feel like it doesn’t
There’s so much ice rider
No but they also have incin
So, you can’t lead it
And CIR always Tera’s to resist zacian
Like drago said before
Tera makes Zacian’s Matchup even worse
Regulation I is 
But it's not like anyone really cares about this one month intermission.
I'm definitely not going to lose sleep trying to run around in a flash-in-the-pan format that won't amount to anything. 
Everyone is just gonna use whatever they used at worlds
I doubt there will be anything new in the format or any evolution
Probably not.
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between cookiesarefun and redstonejesus! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2026 Reg I; Date: Mar 13, 2026
when it goes right IT REALLY goes right
Fought a psychic seed male indeedee with leftovers grimmsnarl on the in game ladder
Crazy meta evolution is happening in reg I
Reg I blows
"Current format blows, we should go back to X format that I also fucking despised while it was running"
My bad, is it not okay to not like a certain format atm
You guys never like any formats though, that's the point of what I said.
It's always "current format bad, other format good" and then whenever the other format comes back, it's still the same thing.
I actually liked Reg I before today just for the record
Also says the guy that puts labels like "brimstone" on certain mons
The thing about me is that I am 90% ironic about everything VGC-related.
Oh wow you're ironic when it suits you
I’m, done lmao
Everything feels bad to use unless it’s bike+horse+incin I’m kinda over it
Honse
Bike+Honse+Incin meet Bike+Nala+Ursa
I'm using neither
I played Koala all of Reg I the first go round so now I’m playing Fedes team
I'm using honse bike blood moon
That’s fire
Is it?
Idk is it? I just like bloodmoon lol
I lied, my brain likes miraidon but Koraidon is my whole heart, I’m switching back lol
I played a match thinking my opponent was modest CSR because I kept moving first and in the endgame they moved before mine lol i hate this format
Maybe it’s the team building aspect
Cause personally I love this format
But I don’t play standard meta stuff
And I never deal with speed ties
that’s a lot of copies
Remember that he didn't have a team until like a week before worlds lol
different people like different formats so if you put everyone in the same boat it’s just this
scarf csr 🔥🔥🔥
loses into everything but no speed ties
This meme always confuses me
Why did I just play against a jolly 252 speed Ursaluna on a tr team
Wtf
Straight 1050 elo shit
How much will we hate on reg M-A
I'm gonna be the first on the line to hate on megas
Sounds about right


