competitive_discussion

[rustic mountain]

if they troll and have it keep its ability imma laugh

[bold geode]

I think Kang is just still a big part of it too cuz like
Hell it also has Fake Out

[dense latch]

flash fire golisopod 🔥 🔥

but like realistically maybe something like battle armor fits

[bold geode]

In a world where you can have 2 Pokemon on your team capable of mega evolution that kinda gives it something to do when it don't mega as well

[foggy lodge]

Champions is next month and we still don't know anything about the new megas abilities nor the format but thank god I know i can get a venusaur

[dapper crag]

Last thing Mega Golisopod needs is a fire resist/immunity ability

[bold geode]

I mean it's Bug/Steel lol

[rustic mountain]

and that we have a gc announcement and date but no champions release date

[dull ibex]

monke hear me out

[bold geode]

I feel like Golisopod just gets better in Rain with the new typing somehow am I crazy

[dull ibex]

we replace volc with farig

[foggy lodge]

Date for a tournament in a game that doesn't have a release date its wild

[dapper crag]

Just watch we get Heatproof Mega Golisopod

[rustic mountain]

absolutely egregious

[bold geode]

I haven't paid attention to what you're running besides "I have screens" tbh so

[dull ibex]

rude

[rustic mountain]

ur crazy but not bc of that

[bold geode]

I mean I knew that but

[dapper crag]

No didn’t you hear it’s Tactical Retreat! It switches it out at the end of the turn once it hits half HP

[bold geode]

Gotta be crazy to be a staff member for this channel hey did anyone hear that

[dull ibex]

at tofu

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

Do it you won't

[dapper crag]

No but I read it

[bold geode]

You see the shit he been thru LOL

[dull ibex]

wait how do you know my spreads suck if you don't pay attention to what i run 🤔

[bold geode]

Do I even need to look at the paste to know this tbh

[dull ibex]

kinda yeah

[bold geode]

Imma make it easy

How much of the paste is max max

[dull ibex]

2 of the mons

[bold geode]

Wow mans got more complicated

[dull ibex]

Wait

[bold geode]

I was shooting for 4 there ngl

[dull ibex]

no yeah 2

[bold geode]

Bro had to check

Alright next question

Do you know what your spreads even do

[dull ibex]

if anyone actually wants to look at the paste and help

I will repost it

https://pokepast.es/256be09735489ffa

grimm snarl and volc are a guess

evs wise

[molten oasis]

Pain

[dull ibex]

my exact evs won't translate to showdown for some reason?

and im replacing volc anyways I think

[bold geode]

Idk why your Hands spread pisses me off but it does

[dapper crag]

At least we know by when it’s coming

[dull ibex]

I have a complex spread but the evs won't translate to showdown

[molten oasis]

It’s not 156 hp/ 100 att/ 252 spD

[rustic mountain]

i think sash urshi is fine here

[bold geode]

Oh I dropped that spread a long time ago

[shadow wind]

Nothing wrong with max max

[bold geode]

I know I'm a hypocrite

[molten oasis]

lol

[rustic mountain]

max max is fine

[dull ibex]

also yeah monke honestly max max would be better here

[bold geode]

Actually yeah just Sash Ursh

[molten oasis]

I just don’t use hands enough to really have a spread for it

[bold geode]

You're not max max on the one Mon you probably wanna be max max on

[dull ibex]

I might even if i keep the bulk

[bold geode]

Nah you max max Sash

[dull ibex]

UGH Fine ill drop the bulk

I don't even remember what the bulk does

[bold geode]

No reason to keep bulk on a Sash set

[rustic mountain]

if ur spreads are more complicated u should have atleast a few benchmarks ur aiming for

[bold geode]

And you should know what those are

[rustic mountain]

i mean yea

[bold geode]

Actually I'll give Red one thing
At least it's max Spdef Hands

[molten oasis]

lol

[foggy lodge]

Connee

[dull ibex]

hey monke it could be worse

I could be running pikalu solgaleo

[foggy lodge]

I was playing a reg G room tour with Groudon

[rustic mountain]

but yea id switch urshi to sash and would just go max max

[foggy lodge]

And I lost

[bold geode]

You tryna fire shots bitch

[dull ibex]

someone in r/vgc

[dull ibex]

ugh now i have to farm berries alright

[rustic mountain]

u dont have to but i dont see why mystic is great on this team necessarily

[dull ibex]

no its fine

every other variation is max max

[rustic mountain]

sash urshi lets u play it w/o grimm which is good so u dont feel like u need screens every game cuz u dont

[dull ibex]

monke is gonna get on my ass if i refuse to switch preads anyways

🤣

[rustic mountain]

i would say ur hands spread really shouldnt b max max but its not the worst

[dull ibex]

I could screenshot the complex spread if you want

but I couldn't get it to translate to showdown

[bold geode]

You still use that dogshit?

[dull ibex]

I do!

faster then here sometimes

[bold geode]

Yeah but you do realize that like

Deadass I feel like a fat chunk of r/VGC don't know shit about VGC

[rustic mountain]

i mean if u want to

[dull ibex]

4 in hp or spdef btw

on ursh

[dense latch]

i've seen some horrendous takes in r/vgc

[dull ibex]

i got the 4 extra sorted

[dapper crag]

It’s Reddit of course they don’t know shit

[shadow wind]

But was it his fault?

[rustic mountain]

was gna just suggest goin 172 for 110 vs 252 w/ 120 cuz its not the biggest of jumps and u can allocate the remainder into other bulk. same w/ atk tbh not the same number but less then max, ur getting +1 from terrain most of the time and even if not it has very high natural atk

[bold geode]

I can trust other stuff with Reddit but VGC ain't one of them

[rustic mountain]

reddit for vgc sucks

[dull ibex]

I get my takes from the discord for r/vgc

[rustic mountain]

its an echo chamber of bad takes

[bold geode]

"X reddit" Google search for a lot of shit is pretty reliable

[dull ibex]

anyways

who are we replacing volc with

[dapper crag]

Nah leave the midwit pseudointellectual incels to duke it out

[dull ibex]

I was thinking maybe farig? or a tr abuser

[bold geode]

I mean as long as I get to watch

[rustic mountain]

do u know why ur changing volc? it seems fine on this comp

[foggy lodge]

No it was mine LOL

[dull ibex]

im not sure what matchups its good into

and it just hasn't been doing much

[foggy lodge]

I got scared of missing pblades and I terad ogerpon in case it missed and it just hitted so tera was wasted

[bold geode]

That's not the right attitude

[foggy lodge]

And I lost in the endgame to that

[bold geode]

It's all Conner's fault

Blame everything on Conner

[molten oasis]

Zama CSR

[foggy lodge]

True

[bold geode]

You lost with Groudon? Conner's fault

[rustic mountain]

csr/zama rilla incin cores, cir mirror, most physical attackers

[bold geode]

Your gf left you? Conner's fault

You don't know your dad? Conner

[dull ibex]

doesn't cir just tera?

[shadow wind]

Aw man 😔

[dapper crag]

What is there to see? It’s just 300 pound dudes saying “☝️🤓 erm ackchewally” with their lenses shining bright white as they spout incoherent nonsense

[dull ibex]

do i want setup volc or keep support

[bold geode]

Yeah but the best part is they're both wrong usually

[dapper crag]

You got me there

[rustic mountain]

its not their to threaten cir w/ direct damage its their to scare it off from clicking hhp and tanking the glacial lances while bothering the other members of the team or setting up if u go that route

ur either using it to stall and disrupt tr through support or through setting up urself and deterring them from wanting to risk the burn on physical moves, and then u use that knowledge to strategize accordingly w/ ur own pieces

like oh volcs scary here surely they wanna double it and then u protect bring in something else that threatens in another way or helps volc out and then u continue on

[dull ibex]

🤔

any move changes i want

[rustic mountain]

askin questions is cool and all but u also have to know why it is ur changing something and what it is u want that mon/piece to do

[dull ibex]

tailwind isn't doing much

and there's situations I wanted protect

[dense latch]

what's the last version of your team

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/272dd3e28b71aac7

[dense latch]

ursh and mirai shouldn't be max max

part of the reason you use scarf is so you can move some speed evs into bulk

[molten oasis]

Specs is better for that imo

[dull ibex]

If we go specs it would give more reason to click tailwind

but im not going tera fairy again

I like tera electric

[molten oasis]

Uhhh

[dense latch]

and mystic water ursh is similar reasoning

[rustic mountain]

ull always have moves u wish u had in certain scenarios, what im saying is, u need to know more on wat u want urself and understand the chain reaction of mon and move choice. if u go protect cool, is it now support volc? that doesnt mean it needs tw, do u want rage powder, do u want fiery dance for damage w/ the potential of a boost,do u want to go the set up route and have it b quiver dance, etc etc

[molten oasis]

Idk about forgoing fairy gleam on a specs set that’s kinda its entire identity

[dull ibex]

I do want to have a setup sweeper for screens

[rustic mountain]

otherwise ur just in an endless chain of asking ppl stuff and not fully knowing what it is ur trynna do and accomplish

[dense latch]

volc has a decently long list of viable support moves you're gonna have to compromise a few scenarios

[molten oasis]

You could go discharge I guess but you don’t have anything that wants to take that

[dull ibex]

I can just go bulk

[dense latch]

tera electric specs is overkill

[molten oasis]

Except hands ig but even then I don’t like chipping teammates down

[foggy lodge]

Life orb mirai

[molten oasis]

Specs is doing what Tera electric does

[dull ibex]

Miraidon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Hadron Engine
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 204 HP / 76 Def / 212 SpA / 4 SpD / 12 Spe
Modest Nature

• Electro Drift
• Draco Meteor
• Volt Switch
• Snarl

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/ena-ena-dream-bbq-froggy-ena-froggy-dream-bbq-gif-16616386847025465065

[dense latch]

you're filling one glass of water with double the volume it needs while leaving the other empty

[molten oasis]

I swear you were so against lorb Mirai max

[dense latch]

tera fairy works as both offensive coverage and as a defensive tera

[molten oasis]

Why is it now smth you bring up lol

[bold geode]

Cloak Miraidon

[dull ibex]

im not against lorb

oh not me

my bad

[molten oasis]

Not on a screens team

[rustic mountain]

whose max

[bold geode]

It did good, now it's all Max can think about

[dull ibex]

hold up monke is cooking

[molten oasis]

Mak is Max in another server I’m in

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-mj-basketball-gif-michael-jordan-no-no-no-no-gif-16220345851539903827

[rustic mountain]

i faced cloak miraidon on ladder the other day it had cm and cooked me

also was a ditto

[dull ibex]

dw im going with the spread i posted

[molten oasis]

Oof

That sucks

[foggy lodge]

I fuck with lorb Miraidon just because reg I is a format with so many 50/50s that adding the 50/50 of if mirai protects or not is super problematic

[dull ibex]

This EV spread aims to survive Glacial Lance, take physical attacks well, but also maximize the odds for Electro Drift to 2-hit-KO Shadow Rider Calyrex in Grassy Terrain with one turn of Life Orb recoil

[rustic mountain]

it wasnt even miraidon it was that ontop of them copying my zama w/ +2 w/ ditto and then tera ghosting to basically invalidate me

[foggy lodge]

But I think it was better for mirainala lowkey cuz you get wide guard there too

[molten oasis]

Ig we’re playing lorb miraidon

[dense latch]

lorb mirai in bo1 is my #5 maybe #6 opp

i think fake out or a double up is free then it just protects

[rustic mountain]

right lol

[foggy lodge]

Cloak Mirai is my 6th or 7th biggest opp

[bold geode]

[molten oasis]

Ur not funny

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-tweaking-fnaf-vhs-vhs-shya-gif-10911037077718351575

[molten oasis]

Live image of Monke’s brain

[bold geode]

@molten oasis I looked up Freddy tweak and it showed Freddy twerking, I think the GIFs are dyslexic

[rustic mountain]

blame ai

[bold geode]

Nah I blame Conner

[molten oasis]

“Uh the animatronic characters here, do get a bit quirky at night.”

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

Why we blaming Connor for everything now

[bold geode]

Why not

[rustic mountain]

dudes not even here to defend himself

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/8d381fab2716854c

latest team

[bold geode]

Eh it's fine he can backread

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

We just sticking with scarf ig ok

[bold geode]

Chat do I play Reg I ladder tonight

[molten oasis]

Is there a reason you’re rockin Tera dark Grimmsnarl?

[bold geode]

I was gonna do ZA ranked tonight but uh
I'd rather not

[dull ibex]

im tera fire in casrt lmao

[molten oasis]

Yes suffer

[bold geode]

Foul Play boost

[dull ibex]

sorry

[dull ibex]

yes in vc

[rustic mountain]

u got like a month or 2 b4 the ladder is dead so if u want ribbons for anything in mball rank id ladder asap

[bold geode]

I'm not streaming it

[molten oasis]

I need to go get a Lunala for that

[dull ibex]

I just wanna vc lmao

[bold geode]

Nah I just hate myself that much tbh

[rustic mountain]

not dead as in it wont b running but nobody really gna b playin it especially below mball

once champions is out especially

[bold geode]

Actually y'know what I should do

[molten oasis]

Ah yes queuing for SV, 30 minute queue times

[bold geode]

I was thinking about it
I should sell my soul to the content demons and make tierlist slop for content

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

Think about it

I can rank the new megas now, then when the abilities go out, I can rank them again

And get DOUBLE THE VIEWS

[molten oasis]

So you want Moxie’s job

[bold geode]

Nah I'm fuckin with y'all

[molten oasis]

Cuz that’s what Moxie does rn lmao

[dense latch]

0 doubled is still 0

[rustic mountain]

i mean champions does leave a gap for content creation if u wanna give it a go why not

[bold geode]

Hey I got good views on my blog fuck y'all

[dull ibex]

I LIKE TIERLISTS!

[rustic mountain]

tierlists are mostly ass tho so make it interesting if u do

[bold geode]

Actually I can do that just so I can go even further in my elaborate plan to trick VGC players into reading

[molten oasis]

I like seeing people mald over Tornadus not being s tier

[bold geode]

See you wanna know why they're ass imo

[rustic mountain]

damn erik went right for the jugular

[molten oasis]

Fr

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

Cuz hardly anyone gets that they're based on opinions

And they like take it for fact

[rustic mountain]

no they r ass cuz its a rehashed idea that is often not interesting or worth the time investing to watch

[molten oasis]

Flats tier slop videos be like

[foggy lodge]

Erik when are we doing the cool vgc gamer podcast with the rest of the group

[molten oasis]

Since when were yall doing that

[foggy lodge]

Like 6 or 7 months ago

[rustic mountain]

wen u have me as a guest

[bold geode]

You do realize that a lot of popular YT channels do the same shit over and over again right

[foggy lodge]

Tomorrow

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/dobby-gif-22195730

[bold geode]

looks at Vanoss crew

[rustic mountain]

u do realize that doesnt mean its good right

[bold geode]

Counterpoint: your mom

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

(Me when I got nothing left)

[dense latch]

that's a thing i definitely knew about

[gentle crag]

is 6-7 funny?
:8ball: Outlook good

[bold geode]

Get fucked nerd

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/call-me-carson-carson-crying-carson-crying-minecraft-gif-15042578

[dense latch]

8ball unsurprisingly knows ball

[bold geode]

I mean it is a ball

[rustic mountain]

8ball absolutely does not know ball

[molten oasis]

True

[bold geode]

It would be weird if a ball didn't know ball

[gentle crag]

does 8ball know ball?
:8ball: Cannot predict now

[molten oasis]

Bro it doesn’t even know

[rustic mountain]

people dont get people, isnt that out of the realm of possibility

[shadow wind]

I didn't get totw 😔

[rustic mountain]

huh

[shadow wind]

Got beat by Miraidon CIR

[dense latch]

you cant monopolize the totw

[foggy lodge]

team of the friday

[dense latch]

you'll get them next time

[bold geode]

Anyways back to this
I feel like they're a good way of like showing opinions visually, but problem is people don't get it's opinions so when their favorite YouTuber goes "oh so and so is F tier" they take it as religion and they argue with people who don't agree with that cuz "oh well my favorite content creator said so"

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/green-alien-cat-green-alien-cat-meme-cat-rage-meme-angry-alien-cat-gif-16978295465898295971

[shadow wind]

Sorry for having a unique team I guess

[foggy lodge]

should have used incin rilla

always bet on incin rilla

[shadow wind]

Bro the person who submitted it has a 52 gxe 😭

Sorry for being the best pick, I understand guys

[dense latch]

incin and rilla use red black and green which always makes them a safe bet roulette wise

[molten oasis]

Well CLEARLY it’s just Mirai CIR diff

[foggy lodge]

Conner do you want to create a monopoly in team of the week

[shadow wind]

I did

But now that I haven't made it on there a single time I'm callin it quits

[rustic mountain]

i dont think this is untrue but i think the cycle of content creation has led to a stale, lack of innovation, clickbait farm the algorithim type of mindset that gives us far too many tier list videos and the like whereas people arent pushing boundraries of creativity they are stockpiled in a race to get the most views and thats wen something that is an art form begins to die, wen capitalism supercedes the art itself

[molten oasis]

Failure isn’t an option for this guy

[shadow wind]

I'm like mostly kidding but the team I lost to makes it hard to want to participate in it again

[bold geode]

Oh yeah but that's kinda how YouTube got
Quote my man Jacksepticeye
It became all about the money and the views instead of having fun

[rustic mountain]

right and that sucks

[foggy lodge]

show the team

[molten oasis]

Became a business model

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/a06f3f9a57f076ad

[bold geode]

When you want money and views, tierlist slop kinda just
Makes the easy bucks y'know

[dense latch]

i miss early 2010s smosh

[molten oasis]

What the hell lmao

[foggy lodge]

team lowkey cooks,,,

[shadow wind]

And I lose to that 😔

[foggy lodge]

Wait that's a rock tomb treads

With a scarf Miraidon

How much speed do you want bruh

[dense latch]

for some reason i thought i thought that was your team and you turned into a mirai cir player

[molten oasis]

Leech seed fairy CIR with nevermelt ice

[bold geode]

But yeah I never actually will go through with tierlist slop myself for content

[dense latch]

the cir set confuses me yea

[rustic mountain]

u really thought u did something w/ the sinischa nickname didnt u

[shadow wind]

It wasn't me 😭

Guys when have I ever had an alt named "Camala64"

[dense latch]

why is cir called paul

[bold geode]

I might do it with a group of friends but for content nah cuz I just don't like the aspect of people thinking that tierlists are law as well

[shadow wind]

I never even owned an N64

[foggy lodge]

I'm starting to name my mons like normal people

[rustic mountain]

honestly thats on me, no groudon shouldve been a dead giveaway

[shadow wind]

Exactly

[shadow wind]

I haven't named a mon in like a year

[bold geode]

Cuz especially when it comes to games like that people either do that or they argue with you like "um buddy I'll have you know Mega Beedrill is actually S tier cuz I said so"

[shadow wind]

Or a team

[rustic mountain]

i was just ready to harp on the bad nickname i forgot everything else

[foggy lodge]

This is Ricardo now

[molten oasis]

I didn’t play enough this year to name mons

[dense latch]

rick ricky or richie for short this is important

[rustic mountain]

yea u didnt earn it

[shadow wind]

I've definitely played enough it's just I don't see a point

[foggy lodge]

ricky

[molten oasis]

Tho i wanna go get a ribbon on my shiny pao and zacian so i gotta get on sv

[bold geode]

I swear if I made tierlist slop and someone told me Mega Malamar was S tier you'd see a body floating down a river

[shadow wind]

I'm making a team to prove a point not make friends in the builder

[rustic mountain]

haha idk the way u worded it made it sound like it was a right or something

[shadow wind]

And when it gets to copy of copy of copy of what's the point in naming stuff

[molten oasis]

Fair enough but like, seriously I just haven’t played enough

[rustic mountain]

nah i get wat u mean

[molten oasis]

SV’s pretty boring rn

[bold geode]

I nickname the mons on my teams now

[dense latch]

there was a time i named my mons after songs but then they slowly disappeared in between copies

[bold geode]

Though they don't change a lot

[rustic mountain]

dude ur telling me, i hadnt played cart for 6 months i found myself in the literal first tier of beginner

[foggy lodge]

I did that early too

[molten oasis]

I always did themes

[bold geode]

My Incineroar on multiple teams now has been named Duct Tape

[foggy lodge]

Then I got bored of it

[molten oasis]

Goated name

[shadow wind]

I make way too many teams to be typing in nicknames every time

[dense latch]

recently i started naming my za mons after stuff that starts with the same few letters as the mon

[foggy lodge]

Last time I named a team was an erizabeth team where everyone had fnaf names

[dense latch]

like absol and absinthe

[molten oasis]

Dude I haven’t played cart in a year

[foggy lodge]

Gholdengo was golden freddy

[rustic mountain]

groudon is always g money

[bold geode]

Let's see here what have I got my shit named hmmmm

Gholdengo is Frenemy cuz I hate the fucker

[shadow wind]

Would be extremely funny if I did that

[bold geode]

Latias
I never named it but I would deadass name it Latinas

[rustic mountain]

i nicknamed groudon g money years ago

its classic

[bold geode]

My Urshifu is named MoneyBear

[molten oasis]

I typically name my Zacian Athena.

[bold geode]

My Bolt is Littlefoot

[foggy lodge]

Monke did you see that Collin Heier's Cresselia was named IShowSpeedGF

[molten oasis]

Man I do love latinas

[bold geode]

Y'know what's bad

[molten oasis]

What lmfao

[bold geode]

The first two weeks I talked about Latias I had to stop my phone from autocorrecting to Latinas

[foggy lodge]

Worst part is that his amoonguss was named after his partner

[bold geode]

I did

[foggy lodge]

If out of all mons I was named after Amoonguss I would cut the relationship there

[dense latch]

im lucky to live surrounded by them

[rustic mountain]

if latias and latios r good ever in champions i have the shinys ready to go

[bold geode]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I named my Rockpon Ugga

[molten oasis]

Maybe latios in an early restricted format

[foggy lodge]

Latios and Zamazenta are best friends

[bold geode]

My Palafin is named PrioBlock as a reminder of my first ever GC team where it was prio spam with Palafin and I just hard lost to priority blockers

[molten oasis]

Imma open up my switch rq

[foggy lodge]

Zama used some weird mons back then

[rustic mountain]

i was thinkin pre restricted

[foggy lodge]

Latios Goltres and Tyranitar

[dense latch]

ttar zama

[foggy lodge]

Ttar Zama was gas

[bold geode]

My CSR is named OutKast
I didn't choose that name, a friend of mine borrowed my Calyrex and nicknamed it that and I can't change it back

[rustic mountain]

take the g out and add an s at the end

[molten oasis]

lol

[foggy lodge]

Hell nah

[bold geode]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/larvitar-happy-tyrannatar-pokemon-baby-gif-8364365

[molten oasis]

Ttar was like

So mid this gen, that guy didn’t see much play even after we got excadrill

[bold geode]

My Chien Pao is named Kitty :3

[dense latch]

so that's where this random emoji i have comes from

[molten oasis]

His best time was reg a ig

[foggy lodge]

LOL

[rustic mountain]

it did fine honestly

[bold geode]

Fym he was good

[molten oasis]

I barely saw him and almost never struggled against him

[bold geode]

Sand was honestly pretty good this gen

It just only showed up as anti weather and then dipped shortly afterwards

[molten oasis]

My Garchomp is named Jeff

[foggy lodge]

Didn't people use Lycanroc Tytar in reg A

[rustic mountain]

idk bout good but it had moments in reg g, reg.h and i think some earlier formats it was ight

[foggy lodge]

The lack of Excadrill was showing

[bold geode]

In fact I'll show you live footage of TTar hopping in the meta

[molten oasis]

Why did I name sneasler Cosby

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/grandpa-abe-exit-confused-bye-bart-gif-7694184

[bold geode]

I think you know why

[molten oasis]

Fair

[bold geode]

Self explanatory

[molten oasis]

My incin is Azula

[bold geode]

My Landorus is named T Pose cuz I'm a dumbass

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/8ff4065ef181fdcd

[molten oasis]

My Primarina is Poseidon cus my shiny marked Prima was male LOL

[bold geode]

Wait shit

[molten oasis]

My incin is female too

[shadow wind]

Something devastating may have gone down in the builder

[bold geode]

Do I still have the Flutter Mane named Arsonist

[foggy lodge]

untitled 332 bro what is this

[bold geode]

I'm past 600 bro I'm cooked

[molten oasis]

I have an amoonguss named sus

[bold geode]

Mine is 1-Up

I DO HAVE THE ARSONIST FLUTTER LMFAO

[dull ibex]

Mine is named eeby

[molten oasis]

Manny the great tusk

[bold geode]

I named a Flutter Mane Arsonist once and then panicked cuz I thought Nintendo would ban me for using it online

[molten oasis]

MY KINGAMBIT IS RORONOA ZORO

[bold geode]

Oh I have a Dark Ursh named Requis

Cuz he likes bedsheets

[molten oasis]

Pingu the iron bundle

[bold geode]

And then a few Iron Hands named Big Tubby

[molten oasis]

My bolt is stormclaw

[dense latch]

there was one pingu episode that had me laughing for minutes when i was a kid

[bold geode]

Big Tubby the goat

[dense latch]

peak tv imo

[molten oasis]

[dull ibex]

monke im boutta lose to eternatus

[molten oasis]

Lance the CIR

I HAVE A LUNALA huge

[bold geode]

Good

[molten oasis]

Gotta run it and get a mark on that guy

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-insanity-template-virtual-insanity-virtual-insanity-slow-gif-2026607390045211562

[molten oasis]

No it’s mine monke no touch

[dull ibex]

I also have a lunala

[molten oasis]

Guys my groudon is growndon

El Tigre the incin
Midas the dengo
Luna the blursa

Fafnir the Regidrago, Poncho the ogerpon

Scott the Whimsi 🔥

[bold geode]

What did I name my Dragonite hmmmm

[foggy lodge]

Epic rap battles

Jamiroquai vs Pingu

[molten oasis]

Another blursa is Kuma

[foggy lodge]

@bold geode you rap as Jamiroquai

[molten oasis]

Red Robin the talonflame

[shadow wind]

Me when my plan goes exactly how I saw it

[molten oasis]

Doby the sableye

[bold geode]

Excuse me

Um I nicknamed my Ursaluna Sonya, idr why

Oh TemuMerch the Flutter Mane

[molten oasis]

Oh my other shiny doggy is in home

[bold geode]

I didn't nickname my Dnite or my Annihilape

[molten oasis]

Wait wdym I don’t have a kyogre

[bold geode]

Chat I ain't doing shit, imma watch more Outdoor Boys

[molten oasis]

Hm, I need to craft a team with Zac Pao, I want them to get and earn their ribbons

I’ll do that tomorrow ig

[foggy lodge]

@molten oasis i have lunala's path in sw sh

[molten oasis]

Oh huge

I’ll hit you up for that on Wednesday

[shadow wind]

Having a team crisis

Who can Groudon go with that hasn't already been done

Very difficult question

[molten oasis]

Kyurem white

[shadow wind]

But that would mean I would have to play kyurem white

[molten oasis]

The good options are gone

Ok how about, mewtwo

[shadow wind]

I guess Groudon CSR never saw the light of day in SV

[molten oasis]

Oh ig that too

[shadow wind]

If I'm going wisp CSR what's the other move?

Like Barrage and protect have to be there

Also this is exactly why I don't use Reshiram

Just asking to miss 😭

And Groudon Reshiram just beat a 1600s player

Mickey mouse format

[molten oasis]

Psychic, pollen puff, snarl

[shadow wind]

Raging bolt has never been bad on any Groudon team ever

Just looking at this 6

I would never want to fight this

[dense latch]

i hope jumpluff gets dexited and forgotten about by game freak

[shadow wind]

Me too lowkey

Same with Grimmsnarl

Maybe just thunder wave as a move

Oh boy I sure hope I hit

We in fact hit

+2 Groudon be hitting harder than any Koraidon could dream of

(Don't mind the set up turn)

((Or the 85% accuracy))

[dense latch]

Groudon used Precipice Blades!

The opposing Calyrex avoided the attack!

The opposing Koraidon avoided the attack!

[shadow wind]

Sorry why did this smeargle and I just go band for band

Pollen puff doesn't go through protect right?

[dull ibex]

Is tree or monke still around?

[shadow wind]

What do you need?

[dull ibex]

I was thinking of replacing volc with a blood moon

I want to strengthen my tr mode

Or is regular ursa Luna better

Also is Leech seed the best set

Or Is clamulet still good

[shadow wind]

What's the team?

[dull ibex]

Here you go

https://pokepast.es/d4f665c1c62682e5

[shadow wind]

So with this sort of team

You won't need more than 2 tr mons

Because you'll always want Miraidon and either Grimm or Volc if your plan is to set up tr

[dull ibex]

What about leech seed vs clamulet

Because rn my ice rider is not a tr sweeper

[shadow wind]

I think leech seed and clam are honestly very equal

Either or work for many teams

[dull ibex]

I might make mine max hp and attack

[dense latch]

im not a big fan of the volc set

[dull ibex]

This version of the team is pretty much done

[dense latch]

it's gonna be a sitting duck with only one actual offensive move

[dull ibex]

So I should go back to support?

[dense latch]

either that or fully commit to qd volc

[dull ibex]

How do I fully commit

[dense latch]

tera grass giga drain

is what found most success

[dull ibex]

Pass I'll go support

[dense latch]

your choice

[dull ibex]

Replace Quiver with rage powder

What's the best hhp ice rider set

[dense latch]

moves are always the same
clam is probably better than nmi but ig both work
252 hp always then the rest is really a toss up based on how you wanna play it

[dull ibex]

I like being really aggressive

[dense latch]

like is there something you want to outspeed after a twave if it's something you think you'll use next to it?

[dense latch]

then i'd do 252 hp 116 attack and then sort the defenses and speed out based on your preference

[dull ibex]

I don't have a preference tbh

I would go max and max if I could lmao I

[dense latch]

then maybe just 252/116+/0/0-/140/0

[dull ibex]

Gotcha

[dense latch]

if you want to speed creep other ice riders maybe give it a few points in speed

[dull ibex]

I don't care tbh

I want to be slow in tr and hit hard

That's what I want to do

[warm estuary]

Right

I’ll do that

I’ll download it today

Probably

[foggy lodge]

I lost another reg G tour with Groudon😔

[waxen dock]

i also lost that tour with zacian

[sharp cobalt]

Gamefreak give mem Mega Victreebel in Champions

[sudden remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-anime-frieren-fern-frieren-dance-frieren-dancing-gif-10361930884375499778

[dull ibex]

this should be 1:1 with cart now

https://pokepast.es/8a5a41b461850061

[sudden remnant]

hhp

[dull ibex]

correct

[sudden remnant]

i wish cir learned horn leech personally

[warm estuary]

The sticker you used is so cute omggggg

[sudden remnant]

[sudden remnant]

nice teto pfp

[warm estuary]

Thanksss

[gentle crag]

oio_314 has given 1 Gen Rep to naganohara_vexae

[sudden remnant]

mine is also vocaloid 😁

[warm estuary]

Wait fr?

[sudden remnant]

yeah

[warm estuary]

I didn’t know lol

[sudden remnant]

its Kagamine Rin in Fear Garden

[warm estuary]

Peak

I heard the name before

I just didn’t know it was your pfp

[sudden remnant]

yeah someone drew it for me and ive made it my pfp ever since

[warm estuary]

It’s a good drawing

[sudden remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fran-フラン-nod-nodded-gif-4555652442381937962

[sudden remnant]

i forget when i joined that server it was a vtuber music artist 🤷‍♂️

[warm estuary]

Ohh aight

[sudden remnant]

there was a fox emoji server i eas in on my other acc i just gotta find it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1450329360249913485/1463739428798464043/caption.gif

[warm estuary]

Ok

Sorry for responding so late

[sudden remnant]

gang you don’t gotta apologize to me 😕

[sudden remnant]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVsML8ugXyK/?igsh=MWd6NXBzbzZ0aGxnMg==

wettowel71

Bro was found at his desk 2 weeks later in a dark void of emotion #pokemon #pokemonshowdown #competitivepokemon #niche

Likes

884

Instagram

true

[stone trellis]

Why would you choose Aqua Jet over CC?

[dull ibex]

why not?

[solid frigate]

I did mention that but I did not bother cuz I seen cases with dropping CC

[dense latch]

yea it’s not too uncommon to drop cc if you run taunt

[sudden remnant]

weewoo

[solid frigate]

Especially when he has Hands

[sudden remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/fite-me-gif-12293576944797660575

[sudden remnant]

hello fellow aegis player

[shadow wind]

Do you guys get like endless amounts of scams from this server?

[sudden remnant]

scams in what

i have yet to be scammed

[shadow wind]

Just random messages asking you to download a game or something similar

"Hey did you get my friend request in "x game""

[sudden remnant]

oh nah i havent gotten any of those

[shadow wind]

I only get them from this server for some reason

[sudden remnant]

all my scams are from a different server

[shadow wind]

I've had 2 people send friend requests today

[foggy lodge]

Do you have the thing where you let everyone dn you

[sudden remnant]

“dn” 🥀

direct nessage 🥀

[shadow wind]

No idea

[bold geode]

Not from this one but from others yes

[craggy dagger]

i
keep getting “hey i added you into our guild, did you get the invitation?”

[shadow wind]

I always mess with them

[craggy dagger]

Stinky

[bold geode]

If you get them from this server, you can report them to the staff, they'll usually deal with it

[shadow wind]

Yup that one too

[bold geode]

Says the bean that I can smell thru the phone

[dull ibex]

We replaced cloak on volc

[shadow wind]

I always just go with whatever they say

Then they get confused and stop messaging me

[bold geode]

I always get the "hey can I talk to you real quick" ones with it pinging me in DMs

The next scam commission artist that try to get me I'm just gonna tell them to draw me some crazy shit that they wouldn't draw

[sudden remnant]

is this a royal “we” or are you pretending to be french

[dull ibex]

we are now running rocky helmet

[bold geode]

Actually the one thing I wanna do one day
I wanna get a scam call from one of those people talking about the car extended warranty and I wanna ask them if it'll cover like me running over a gorilla

[sudden remnant]

chat i think Red is pretending to be french

[bold geode]

Cool I hate Red even more

Didn't think that was possible

[dull ibex]

you're in my personal discord

[sudden remnant]

damn

[dull ibex]

hate me my ass

[bold geode]

Yeah but like
Fuck that Red guy amirite

[sudden remnant]

why does bro got his own server

[dull ibex]

well technically it aint mine

[dull ibex]

I have friends outside of this place lol

[bold geode]

[sudden remnant]

[dull ibex]

some of them like pokemon too!

[shadow wind]

I just tell em I'm broke every time

I think I said I was bread sandwich kinda broke

And then they always say some "Oh well you can pay me later"

Like I owe them something already

[bold geode]

Conner did you happen to follow NBA basketball too or am I thinking of someone else

[shadow wind]

Probably someone else

I don't follow nba very closely

I know some stuff but I don't check in often

[dense latch]

i cant believe what just happened

this is a double win for me as a heat fan

[bold geode]

Fucking crazy

I had to pull up the game stats I couldn't believe it

Can't wait for the drug test

You remember when they did that to Donovan Mitchell

[shadow wind]

Wait so what happened?

[dense latch]

bam adebayo scored 83 points

2nd highest in nba history
most in nba history if you dont count wilt

[shadow wind]

Holy moly

[bold geode]

Bam Adebayo, a player for the Miami heat

Just dropped 83

[shadow wind]

That's wild

[bold geode]

He is now the closest to ever get to Wilts record

[sudden remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-amie-minun-stimming-stim-gif-10247612380913500844

[shadow wind]

Still crazy how he got 100 points

Y'all think it really happened?

[dense latch]

i like to think it didnt now so that a player from my team has the record in my eyes

but he had some other absurd games recorded afaik so he could have done it

[shadow wind]

Oh man I just sold a pb run so badly

Was going to be like an 18:30 and it ended up being a 24 😔

I entered the end at 16:30 and then I choked

[bold geode]

Wilt Chamberlain was a fucking monster, I think it probably did

[molten oasis]

I keep missing moves in winning positions

My favorite

[rustic mountain]

its crazy cuz he doesnt, sorry man cant have bam fuckin adebayo passing kobes record

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/SableyeVGC/status/2031484972515647679?s=20

Ryan 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 (@SableyeVGC)

I may be dating myself with this one, but the Orlando format is giving “Late July” vibes right now!

X · Mar 10, 2026, 9:38 PM

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/2d7427d9ffb9e8cf

thoughts on the team nearly completed?

[shadow wind]

Hands missing evs

And I'm wondering what the grass tera is for?

[dull ibex]

thank you for pointing that out

[dull ibex]

it resists ground and prevents sleep

its from another team

[shadow wind]

Well eterrain already prevents sleep

[dull ibex]

ye ik

[dense latch]

do sash ursh if you're gonna max max

[shadow wind]

Grass is definitely fine here but bug or water might be better just for certain restricted mus

[dense latch]

or else you're just asking for ursh to get one shot most of the time

[shadow wind]

Real even with screens

[dense latch]

sash is probably what i'd do

and maybe try and optimize hands' spread

a bit more hp

[foggy lodge]

My favourite calc is astral barrage from life orb calyrex OHKOing no bulk ursh

[shadow wind]

Iron Hands @ Assault Vest
Ability: Quark Drive
Level: 50
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 100 HP / 156 Atk / 12 Def / 4 SpA / 236 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe

• Drain Punch
• Low Kick
• Ice Punch
• Fake Out

I use this spread 99% of the time

[dense latch]

yea that's the one i saw on munchstats

[shadow wind]

Probably what I based mine off of

Or I just stole it

Who knows

[foggy lodge]

76+ Atk Mold Breaker Ogerpon-Hearthflame Ivy Cudgel (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ogerpon-Cornerstone on a critical hit: 160-190 (103.2 - 122.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[lofty tartan]

It is indeed a mystery

[foggy lodge]

Never mind this is the best calc ever

[dense latch]

nice

[shadow wind]

Crazy calc

Focus energy is honestly really sick on Pon

[foggy lodge]

True

I remember arubega mirai adapted it and I thought it didn't make sense but

Considering most pagos comps were Incin rockpon

You kind of destroy those two wity focus energy

[shadow wind]

Well destroy might be pushing it

Cause rockpon ohkos you and pagos can probably eat 2

[dense latch]

oh reg g pagos

[foggy lodge]

You had to play with whimsicott there

[dense latch]

what's the opposite of peak

[foggy lodge]

With mirai whimsi firepon you could beat pagos balance

[shadow wind]

Well yeah

But setting up the focus energy is hard if they lead Rockpon

Which is why the urshifu is a better option for the rock pon

Surging goes through sturdy anyway

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but rockpon still hits your shifu

[shadow wind]

Not if you lead whims

[foggy lodge]

But idk it just depends on how you positionate the pieces

[shadow wind]

Yeah

I just know that team didn't have much for redirection so Firepon can really struggle to get the focus energy up

[foggy lodge]

btw power whip from rockpon saved me a match,,,

[dull ibex]

100 156?

[foggy lodge]

I still prefer wood hammer

[shadow wind]

Wood hammer on rockpon??

[dull ibex]

im going 156 100 252

[shadow wind]

Run horn leech if you don't want to miss

[foggy lodge]

No because horn leech doesn't reach the calcs

[shadow wind]

But wood hammer gets rid of your sturdy which is crucial in so many mus

[foggy lodge]

I prefer wood hammer cuz it doesn't depend on rng and I've felt that i get less punished from breaking my own sturdy than by missing the move

[dull ibex]

okay im bug tera on hands

[shadow wind]

Valid

[foggy lodge]

But if you feel like you are lucky enough

Power whip is better

[shadow wind]

Guys saying that to the Groudon player

[foggy lodge]

Today I played Groudon again in a room tour

[shadow wind]

W

[foggy lodge]

Fucking tera fire calyrex ice lived a double up of wicked blow + stomping tantrum

And I lost because of that

[dull ibex]

my tera bugs hand was missing 52 evs

have no idea how i made that mistake

[shadow wind]

Would've won if you clicked pblades

[foggy lodge]

I couldn't because they had a wide guard pelipper next to it

[shadow wind]

Ah

This is why we run hhp?

[foggy lodge]

Another ground move to miss lets goo

[shadow wind]

At least that one is 95% accurate

I take a 95% chance 100% of the time

[foggy lodge]

I liked stomping tantrum with him

Burned Groudon OHKO'd an Incin with it

[shadow wind]

No shot

[foggy lodge]

150 BP basically solved for the burn

[shadow wind]

Guy had -def incin

Nah cause even a 75 bp move should never ohko

Pblades usually doesn't kill

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/dc7d889b881ce8e0

[shadow wind]

252+ Atk Groudon Stomping Tantrum vs. 228 HP / 92 Def Incineroar: 156-186 (78.3 - 93.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[foggy lodge]

What do you think of my epic gamer evs

[shadow wind]

Should probably be 126 speed for scarf Chi yu

And I'd go more spdef

[molten oasis]

Welp cuz I got nothing there https://pokepast.es/732abf99de8bc63b do we think amoonguss would be better over rilla or? Ik its mostly Campbells team but im kinda enjoying having fake out pressure next to kyogre

Also debating throwing on redirect somewhere, but wanna keep fake out

[shadow wind]

Cause you have intim and wisp

[foggy lodge]

I think the og team had snarl bolt too but i found it unnecesary i think

[shadow wind]

I was also going to mention that but eweb works well

252+ Atk Groudon Stomping Tantrum vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Incineroar: 170-204 (100 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Bro might've legit been 0 bulk Incin

[foggy lodge]

Lmfao

Maybe they were chipped already

But it still killed from a range i didn't think it would kill

[shadow wind]

76+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 228 HP / 92 Def Incineroar: 164-194 (82.4 - 97.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[molten oasis]

I’ll come back later ig

[shadow wind]

Like I know my Groudon calcs

[foggy lodge]

Ok mr groudon pro make me a good groudon spread

[shadow wind]

Uh depends on the team

[foggy lodge]

The one i showed you

[shadow wind]

And you want to keep stomping?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

I'd like to mantain the OTS

Because all the pieces have worked well

Maybe i want blitz on incin for amoonguss but its not a big problem either

[shadow wind]

Groudon
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 132 HP / 76 Atk / 4 Def / 172 SpD / 124 Spe
Adamant Nature

[foggy lodge]

And i already have groudon and firepon to take advantage of the sun

[shadow wind]

Something like this works it's just weaker

If you want it to be stronger and hit the next jump point I can do that

[foggy lodge]

How much damage does it take from csr

[shadow wind]

252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 132 HP / 172 SpD Groudon: 84-99 (43.7 - 51.5%) -- 8.6% chance to 2HKO

[foggy lodge]

Damn

[shadow wind]

But with this I'd suggest snarl

[foggy lodge]

I also wanted to change the jumpluff spread cuz

[shadow wind]

Groudon
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 92 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 132 SpD / 124 Spe
Adamant Nature

[foggy lodge]

It was meant to speed creep adamant sneasler with unburden

[shadow wind]

Or you could do this and for sure go snarl on Bolt

[foggy lodge]

But the only team that plays sneasler in reg g uses miraidon and i probably don't pick jumpluff there

[shadow wind]

252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 92 HP / 132 SpD Groudon: 87-103 (46.5 - 55%) -- 67.6% chance to 2HKO

Cause this one doesn't eat CSR very well

-1 252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 92 HP / 132 SpD Groudon: 75-90 (40.1 - 48.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

But after a snarl even a lorb CSR can't 2hko

[bold geode]

Balls

Max why are you playing Groudon

[foggy lodge]

Cuz he is cool

[shadow wind]

Groudon is AWESOME

[bold geode]

How are you playing Reg G

[foggy lodge]

What do you even speed creep with jumpluff man

[molten oasis]

Showdown tours

[shadow wind]

Room tours I think

[foggy lodge]

Vgc chat room tours

[bold geode]

I see

[foggy lodge]

Sometimes I just say "can we get reg g tour" and they do it its cool

[shadow wind]

Also if you don't care about outspeeding Timid Scarf Chi yu you can run slower

[shadow wind]

Groudon
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 132 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 180 SpD / 36 Spe
Adamant Nature

This outspeeds modest scarf chi yu in tw and takes hits as well as does damage

[dull ibex]

what spread would i use if i went lorb miraidon?

would my current spread work?

[shadow wind]

Well what's the set

Parabolic charge? CM?

[dull ibex]

mine?

[shadow wind]

Miraidon
Ability: Hadron Engine
Level: 50
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 188 HP / 20 Def / 188 SpA / 4 SpD / 108 Spe
Modest Nature

Something like this probably works

[shadow wind]

Well if it's lorb you use different sets usually

Oh wait spatk is wrong

[dull ibex]

Miraidon @ Life Orb
Ability: Hadron Engine
Level: 50
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 204 HP / 76 Def / 212 SpA / 4 SpD / 12 Spe
Modest Nature

• Electro Drift
• Draco Meteor
• Volt Switch
• Protect

[foggy lodge]

What do I even need to outspeed with jumpluff

This thing reaches 600+ speed with sun and tailwind

[shadow wind]

Honestly no clue

I just run jolly max max

[foggy lodge]

uhhh what is usually used with prio tw

That i can reasonably outspeed

I have tera dark pluff also for csr

[shadow wind]

I'd drop the health to 188 and I'd probably go faster than that but I really like outspeeding Lando I

[shadow wind]

Tera dark is also peak for prankster taunts and encores

[dull ibex]

we're going to pair lorb mirai with tailwind volc

[shadow wind]

So Lando just smokes you, got it

[dull ibex]

im a caly ice team

[shadow wind]

You have one mon that beats Lando and if they position it well it can cause a lot of problems

[dull ibex]

but also who is running lando

[foggy lodge]

Yeah I can let it sit in front of csr torn or other stuff

[dull ibex]

doesn't lando kinda beat this team regardless

[shadow wind]

Well now that you say that every one ever

[shadow wind]

Less so if your Miraidon outspeeds it

[dull ibex]

yeah testing didnt go well so I should stick with the screens team

[shadow wind]

Thoughts on pollen puff?

I really liked fast pollen puff on Jumpluff

Also breaks sashes like a goat

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regi-2556429725

volc is a caly shadow answer is hilarious

[shadow wind]

Also on a side note

I might be goated?

4 sub 25 runs in a row

And I sold sub 20 on 3 of them

[dull ibex]

https://youtu.be/m-pDIJ9EBis?si=2uovFo40hcEtuRob @bold geode what content creation does to a person

[shadow wind]

He ain't lyin

[dull ibex]

Lol

[molten oasis]

I think I’m gonna go play reg I with Zacogre, I just have different alterations to Campbell’s team

I want to get my pao a ribbon

[foggy lodge]

If I had av groudon i would use it probably

But i like encore here

Okay now

How do I beat arubega miraidon with this team LOL

[dull ibex]

good luck

[shadow wind]

I mean tera fire Groudon kinda just wins no?

[molten oasis]

Ty

[foggy lodge]

Idk what to lead into it

[shadow wind]

Firepon + Tera fire Groudon is really hard for it

Firepon almost always

[foggy lodge]

I thought about leading Incin Ursh but they are tera fairy miraidon + whimsicott

[shadow wind]

Lead Groudon Incin

[foggy lodge]

Probably firepon yeah

[shadow wind]

Or Groudon Firepon

Firepon is more consistent cause no farig stuff

[shadow wind]

Hey wait this guy used my team and gave me zero credit

[foggy lodge]

Okay so like

How would turn 1 go in the worst case scenario

[shadow wind]

What's Arubega again

I can only think of the Luca team

[foggy lodge]

Miraidon whimsicott firepon hands farigiraf Urshifu

They can be both urshifus

[shadow wind]

Uh honestly there is no bad turn one I think

Groudon + Firepon lead is really neutral

[foggy lodge]

Hm probably

Follow me pblades?

Or follow me heat crash into Whimsicott

[shadow wind]

Groudon Firepon lead and then Incin in the back

Follow me pblades is good

[foggy lodge]

I probably pick bolt there too

[shadow wind]

Yup

Or Urshifu for Hands if you aren't sure you need Bolt

But yeah bolt is better for the shifu

[foggy lodge]

Jumpluff can never come here😔

[shadow wind]

Nope cause what's the point

Can't encore trick room and you won't outspeed anyway

And sleep powder is useless

Which is why I suggest pollen puff if you're finding Pluff isn't coming to a lot of games

[foggy lodge]

Nah it does come just not against miraidon

For reasons you know

Okay so like

What do I do if i go for pblades follow me and they blow up ogerpon with draco

[shadow wind]

So tw draco pretty much?

Pblades if it hits should do 50+ even if they tera

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[shadow wind]

Groudon takes a -2 draco no matter what

Well unless crit

You can also double protect if they lead Whims Mirai

See if they want to click draco or drift

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but if i double tect i have to follow me anyways to redirect the encore

[shadow wind]

Yeah but you can decide if you want to keep your tera or not

Or if they dgleam for whatever reason

Just gives you a second to see what they do

The last thing you want to see turn 1 as a choice Miraidon is double protect + follow me turn 2

Because you show your entire hand

-2 252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 92 HP / 132 SpD Groudon: 118-139 (63.1 - 74.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Still a lot but it's fine

[foggy lodge]

Tbh i could also play to 50/50s the whole game and could win but its too hard LOL

[shadow wind]

Nah if you can don't play the 50/50s

[dense latch]

give the goat edrice some flowers 😭 never thought i’d witness something like that but yea it’s crazy that bam of all players went and did it

[shadow wind]

3 random friend requests from this server in 1 day

New record

[dense latch]

how’s it feel to be famous

[shadow wind]

Guess so

[foggy lodge]

I found the meta call

[molten oasis]

Brother

What kind of meta call is that it’s literally bolt balance with a fckn politoed

[bold geode]

Your mom

[molten oasis]

Bruh

[dense latch]

slapping politoed into the most popular team in the format worked in reg h fuck it why not

[jade dust]

I think people is making too much noise about Golurk and Machamp getting fissure in ZA and having No Guard. Even if they have access to both OHKO and No Guard, they suck stat wise and if this was the only viable way to use them, they are very predictable

Both are 55 speed and at best, average bulk. They will get OHKO by any super effective hits anyway

[brisk crater]

It would be one of those cases where they are annoying asf but not entirely strong

[jade dust]

In vgc they would suck

They don’t have the bulk or speed to stick around and will get removed easily

And flying types

[vivid jungle]

Sash trick room

Woule take care of both of those problems no?

You could also just redirect attacks with a support mon and keep your machamp safe

[solid frigate]

Having the ability to OHKO is obviously good in paper

But given Only Machamp and Golurk can do that which gets their threat Negated by Flutter Mane+Follow up is not worth for a slot on your team

Unless you built a team with those two in mind,it’s mostly not worth it to consider in a competitive environment given Pokémon Competitive has Shifted from Bo3 OTS

And we don’t even know if they keep the Move anyway

Also about the Trick room thing

Ursaluna is literally playable in Champions (in Serebii list)

[jade dust]

Also tera flying and togekiss negate them from doing anything

[solid frigate]

And I haven’t even talked about the megas

Mega Y and Mence have Spread Moves
Metagross can justify running Earthquake for some cases even if you would rather Bullet Punch

[vivid jungle]

If you know they'll pull up those type of counters you can prepare yourself accordingly- at least it sounds pretty predictable to me

[solid frigate]

Oh yeah and Togekiss is gonna be anti meta at worst for lower powered formats if it’s available since serene grace air slash and Twave is a thing

[vivid jungle]

My Mega Zeraora would fr love to sit besides a machamp thats being countered by flying types

[solid frigate]

Isnt that gonna be illegal for literally most of the game’s lifespan anyway cuz It’s a Mythical

[vivid jungle]

No idea what will be legal from the start of champions anyway

But thats just how I would deal with those issues

If they know they have to focus machamp or else they get K.Od and the (second fastest I think?) Mega sits next to it, it applies soooo much pressure imo and they're left in a pinch

Because if they don't take out the machamp they get ran over, and they pretty much can't outspeed Zeraora

[jade dust]

That’s another issue, no guard fissure would be very predictable

A good player can smell it from a mile away and put a stop to it

Just like how those evasion teams are very easy to stop

[vivid jungle]

So you can play mind games, even better

What if they know you wanna fissure because you have an easy K.O on that sitting duck right there

They protect and you get an easy switch in

Machamp would just be a giant threat you could play around

[brisk crater]

Flying tera, redirection speed control.

There are so many ways to counter a golurk spamming a single move

And he doesnt have much damage or utility aside from this hypothetical no guard fissure

[vivid jungle]

Did you not read what I was saying 😭

[jade dust]

I’m saying how this strategy wouldn’t be broken if any good at all

I doubt it would be any good tbh

[brisk crater]

It would be some shit you see in 1050 elo showdown

[jade dust]

Just gimmicky shit like Muk Smeargle

[vivid jungle]

Doubt that then

I'll make it work

[jade dust]

Muk can theoretically become invincible and yet that strat is ass

Very easy to stop

Fissure no guard would only be viable in single if anything at all

[solid frigate]

Muk smeargle is basically a taunt Check

[jade dust]

Clear smog, haze and heavy slam too

Also perfectly accurate moves like hurricane in rain

[warm estuary]

But I did

Anyway good morning Comp chat

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regfbo3-2556622364-hbbbfu52irvlgrrc2x60vn2afu10macpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regfbo3-2556623717-654cnbyueo3c9cixkxwnfasfg12dtf9pw

heh

[rustic mountain]

togekiss

🥹

[dull ibex]

Hello

[bold geode]

Reg F kinda blows right now

And it's all Iron Crown's fault

[molten oasis]

Something finally broke him

[bold geode]

It's the one dog I wanna take out back

[molten oasis]

It’s unfortunately just like, strong rn

[bold geode]

Iron Crown players are bums

Sitting there with your team that doesn't give a fuck about counters or gameplans or if your opponents grandma just died or how homeless your mom is

Y'all really having fun there

Are ya

I was gonna play a Limitless tournament tonight but nah I'm good

I'm good
I don't wanna see more Iron Crown, no thank you

[molten oasis]

I’m a bum ig

[bold geode]

🖕

[molten oasis]

That’s the last team I was playing!

And I played a bunch of psyspam crown early reg f 2