#competitive_discussion

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solid frigate
shadow wind
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Other guys name is crazy

sudden remnant
dense latch
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is he? hard to tell

shadow wind
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Nah I don't think people that short exist

dense latch
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crazy statement

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the average height in my country is like 5’4 😭

sudden remnant
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holy short people

dense latch
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for adult men

shadow wind
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Yikes

dense latch
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i got semi blessed tho

shadow wind
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(bro is 5'7)

dense latch
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i could never

solid frigate
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I think I’m considered like average to above average in Hong Kong lol(5’8)

I’m 5’10-11 I think

dense latch
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i’m 5’11

sudden remnant
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yall all short lmao

shadow wind
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I'm 190 cm

molten oasis
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I’m 5’6”

dense latch
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shit is like the 99th percentile for my country so im happy

shadow wind
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Which is like 6'2 and a bit or something

sudden remnant
dense latch
solid frigate
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Im fine with my height

Honest and Average

shadow wind
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Nah I lowkey be feeling short though cause sports

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Go to one tournament and somehow I'm below average

sudden remnant
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moxie boosted dropped a j slur in his video yesterday

molten oasis
sudden remnant
shadow wind
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Jobs lowkey not even that bad

sudden remnant
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im employed btw 🫠

shadow wind
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Overhated lowkey

shadow wind
sudden remnant
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employment sucks

shadow wind
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But money

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Money is the bees knees

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You get to buy things

molten oasis
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Conner gets to buy Browt and Groudon merch

shadow wind
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No way I'm being associated with Browt already

sudden remnant
molten oasis
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My chien pao plushie stares at you menacingly

sudden remnant
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my potato eevee staring at your chien pao

shadow wind
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My uh Groudon figures are overheating on top of my pc ?

sudden remnant
molten oasis
solid frigate
shadow wind
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Ok but this guy is getting fried by Browt when bro gets the rock type

sudden remnant
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i wont be using either one anyways

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im picking gecqua 10000%

shadow wind
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I'm a Browter now I guess

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I can't go back on my word

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Has there been any info on what mons aren't in Gen 10?

warm estuary
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But there’s my goat oddish

cyan smelt
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Why do they never show vgc action in the trailers for champions bruh

shadow wind
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They hate us

stone trellis
sudden remnant
cyan smelt
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They say they want vgc to be bigger and say that worlds is gonna be 3x bigger and then pull that shit

sudden remnant
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can we agree that vgc is the middle child TT

cyan smelt
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Vgc is an orphan

warm estuary
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Why do they hate vgcE_Despair

cyan smelt
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They don't want to acknowledge that it exists

shadow wind
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I mean I said it ironically before but what are you guys talking about? VGC is still insanely massive and Pokemon knows this, why do you think the world championships still happen every year and vgc is a massive part of that

cyan smelt
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It still feels like a niche thing

shadow wind
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😭😭😭

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Pokémon has been putting on world championships for like almost 2 decades now

stone trellis
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I see TCG streams get 1,5-2x the concurrent viewers of VGC streams consistently.

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VGC is the sideshow.

warm estuary
shadow wind
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Well yeah they’re a company they want money

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They make a kids game to sell plushes and you want their main focus to be the competitive aspect that they already make regulations and monthly seasons for?

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It’s a bit unrealistic

cyan smelt
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With the expense that it takes to participate in vgc you'd think they'd throw it a bone

shadow wind
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Isn’t 90% of the cost travelling?

cyan smelt
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Yeah that's what i mean and it's even more pronounced in australia where there are hardly any events

shadow wind
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How many regionals are in Australia? 2?

cyan smelt
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3

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And they scrapped ocic

shadow wind
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I mean Canada has 2 regionals

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With any hobby there’s going to be costs

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And where you live will 100% change the experience

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I just don’t think it’s worth anyone’s time to criticize a company of that size

cyan smelt
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But at least canada has naic and there's not the massive distance in north america that there is in australia

shadow wind
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I didn’t mean for that to come across as “oh look at me we only have 2 regionals here” so my bad but no matter where you live there’s going to be a travel cost

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But assuming that the Pokémon company cares about that is kinda ridiculous

cyan smelt
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True but at least north america is kinda close

shadow wind
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95% of money made from the Pokémon company is not through vgc events

cyan smelt
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And you have access to a bunch of us events

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We have to travel like 18 hours to get to anywhere with big events

shadow wind
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Right so when I said I wasn’t making it about how many events I had access to I kinda meant it

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You know how far I have to travel to the closest regional? 15 hours

cyan smelt
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Ofc it's not economical for them to host events in oceania

shadow wind
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And then the complete other side of Canada is at least multiple days of driving

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Which is not entirely comparable to Australia because it’s a way further distance

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And sure I may have access to some us regionals it’s not like it’s free to go from northern Canada to anywhere in the us

cyan smelt
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True, 3 is more than 2

shadow wind
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Sure the situation might suck in Australia because to go to any international it’s going to take an extremely long plane ride and some people will just naturally live wherever the international is but that’s just how it is

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The point I’m trying to make is that Pokemon couldn’t give 2 thoughts if there was 2000 people at NAIC or 5000

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Not really where their money makers are so they don’t put the highest level of care into it

cyan smelt
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Ur right vgc doesn't make money, the games don't even make them most of their money, it's cards and merch

shadow wind
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So to expect some sort of specialty treatment because we pay for events like this is very unrealistic when looking at the Pokémon company as a whole

shadow wind
stone trellis
cyan smelt
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Soon the games will be made by ai and there's nothing we can do about it

solid frigate
mighty stump
next stump
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seattle today let’s goooo

upper zealot
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gl to everyone at seattle

bold geode
warm estuary
brisk crater
brisk crater
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Im trying to see if i can play in houston

foggy lodge
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Muntazir vs Lorcy

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Sitrus berry Iron Crown what

bold geode
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It just me or did Lorcy make all the wrong moves Game 2

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Man Lorcy what did we do bud

bold geode
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Like I don't get the Farig adjustment in Game 2 at all and idk why you didn't just lead Torn Incin all 3 games

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Chat I might be the only one watching Seattle LOL

warm estuary
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Watching

next stump
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I just got home gotta rewatch R1

bold geode
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Behzad won, and honestly I think Lorcy could've easily had that but he just
Made weird adjustments

craggy dagger
next stump
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finally into round 3

mighty stump
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I have work in the morning I can’t watch

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Someone just let me know what team wins i wanna see if I guessed right

bold geode
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Kasun hurts my eyes low-key

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That is a team of all time

forest arrow
bold geode
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My goat Apollo

sudden remnant
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LMAO

atomic flint
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guys, ik i apear as spam , i got a issue with discord, but i need to know why showdown isnt working

warm fiber
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What why is showdown off line

next stump
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likely just the servers being down

foggy lodge
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Its not working for me

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Showdown is down again damn

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Not like I was playing today anyways but damn

next stump
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showdown lawsuit incoming from pokemon

forest arrow
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Pls no

bold geode
sudden remnant
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chat is showdown down rn?

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could just be me idk

next stump
sudden remnant
sudden remnant
bold geode
bold geode
sudden remnant
bold geode
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It being Nintendo is the answer LMAO

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Nintendo isn't gonna work with people like that

forest arrow
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BRO IS THAT A WYRDEER

sudden remnant
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what?

forest arrow
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Seattle Regionals

bold geode
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This is 5-0 btw

forest arrow
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WYRDEER is 5-0 bro what

sudden remnant
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wydeer isnt that bad surely?

next stump
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LIFE ORB WYRDEER

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HAHAHAH

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what the fuck

solid frigate
forest arrow
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expanding force earth powerKEK

solid frigate
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I swear people couldn’t get away with this

sudden remnant
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cmon it cant be that bad

forest arrow
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It’s that bad

tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
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oh........... nevermind it is that bad

solid frigate
bold geode
# next stump HAHAHAH

Bro I have this sneaking suspicion that no one gives a fuck rn and just are gonna use whatever

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And like Lord this makes me want to believe it

forest arrow
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Encore Wellspring neat

sudden remnant
# tiny karma

although icl this is the kind of pokemon id use. lemme see if it learns anny moves i care about before i finalize that sentence

bold geode
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Bro now this shit is entertainment KEKW

tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
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BE_KannaSip yeah id use it

solid frigate
forest arrow
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Yeah I just prefer thundy in that slot

sudden remnant
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WOLFEY FORGOT WATERPON is inn his bug month video today

forest arrow
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Cicciots team is busted

sudden remnant
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he was talkinng about relevant mons weak to bug and forgot waterpon

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and he called regional champion ribombee awful

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how dare he

bold geode
sudden remnant
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ribombee isnt awful it won a regional

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🙁

stone trellis
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Keep in mind who the user was.

sudden remnant
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it still won

stone trellis
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Yes, because Marco fucking Silva used it.

sudden remnant
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how about its a good mon in the right hands

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happy now

stone trellis
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Nah, I'm an elite hater.

sudden remnant
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we know

bold geode
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A low power format

stone trellis
bold geode
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Where weaker Pokemon do better

sudden remnant
bold geode
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Right NOW it sucks ass

stone trellis
bold geode
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In Reg H
It actually wasn't that bad

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The speed + built in Cloak was kind of something

next stump
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how slow is wyrdeer????

sudden remnant
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base 65

stone trellis
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HA BEAT YOU TO IT EAT SHIT

tiny karmaBOT
next stump
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gotta be a trick room variant then

sudden remnant
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you didnt beat me to it

next stump
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cause ting lu on these teams run 0 speed

sudden remnant
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🤨

bold geode
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Stop fighting children

sudden remnant
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no

stone trellis
sudden remnant
stone trellis
sudden remnant
molten oasis
stone trellis
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Let's stop before we get muted for spam or something.

solid frigate
stone trellis
molten oasis
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This is almost as bad as the old beef I had with monke

sudden remnant
stone trellis
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Put the fries in the bag, bro.

sudden remnant
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nah

bold geode
molten oasis
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Ah yeah you’re fight fuck you

bold geode
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I'm fight?

sudden remnant
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lmao

stone trellis
molten oasis
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I can’t type holy shit

bold geode
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Guys I am Urshifu, I'm fight

molten oasis
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Lmao

solid frigate
stone trellis
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Isn't SS supposed to be kicks?

sudden remnant
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yes

solid frigate
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It’s a bit of both

bold geode
solid frigate
stone trellis
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Still starts and ends with a kick, so...

stone trellis
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You don't know how hard the frog counters the shroom.

sudden remnant
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HE MENTIONED WELLSPRING

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wolfey is forgiven

molten oasis
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Bug month

craggy dagger
sudden remnant
foggy lodge
molten oasis
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Huh?

foggy lodge
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Kommander 7-1

upper zealot
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do we think that delphox will have a niche

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cause rn i feel like yard is making it homeless

solid frigate
molten oasis
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If zard y didn’t exist I see a niche for it

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But because zard y exists it’s just gonna suck which is so unfortunate

upper zealot
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yeah

molten oasis
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It’s in my top 3 mega designs and they said “fuck you and your one main competitive draw”

upper zealot
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fire type and eq partner sounds nice but then you realize zard does more damage and helps out the team more

near crag
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Y'all know if there will be a break from tournaments between June and August? Probably stupid, but I couldn't find any dates for that, and I still need to get points, so just making sure I don't need to book flights to Indianapolis

upper zealot
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i think all events stop after naic

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including locals

next stump
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Yep, nothing from July 1st-August 31st

molten oasis
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And it’s bulkier

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But your trading that for weather which is just, not worthwhile

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Idk it really depends what the meta is early

solid frigate
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As long as Politoed and Pelipper aren’t in the roster (yet)

Sun would probably be the dominant weather unless Sand and Snow got use

molten oasis
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No sun will dominate most likely

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Sun’s just too strong with paradox mons once those guys are legal

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No rain mega hurts that too

solid frigate
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Do we even have a water type mega besides Feraligatr and Greninja

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In the new roster

molten oasis
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No

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But there’s speculation that maybe mega drampa gets drizzle which would be sick

near crag
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Any clue about next comp format? Thinking about competing in may

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Or when it releases?

molten oasis
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We should get information soon

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Within the next week most likely

near crag
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Should I just refresh the page in victory road, or is there somewhere else?

solid frigate
next stump
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victoryroad, twitter, even here will all have any format news posted within a few minutes

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there's a chance we hear something tonight/tomorrow

molten oasis
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Reg c plz

near crag
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I would actually build a shrine in my room if we got reg g again

molten oasis
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Did we like reg g 2 THAT much? Reg g 2 was kinda trash

upper zealot
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reg i come back PLEASE

near crag
molten oasis
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Fair enough

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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There has to be a format

rustic mountain
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ty for that

molten oasis
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I just don’t wanna do another restricted format personally

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Reg c or NO TERA FORMAT (totally not copium)

rustic mountain
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only rerun we didnt get for recentish formats is i so gl w/ that lol

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they might do a no tera for cart ladder

molten oasis
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That would be lit

rustic mountain
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but unlikely

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id love it

molten oasis
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I like Tera but man I wanna know what vanilla vgc is like

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No Tera, just, mons

rustic mountain
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teras cool but ill b glad to see it gone

molten oasis
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For now

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Then we get megas for a while, and then whatever the new gimmick in Winds and Waves is

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If they do a new gimmick

rustic mountain
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cant really discuss leaks but all ill say is there is supposed to b a new gimmick

molten oasis
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Noted, time to break calyrex even more!

forest arrow
stone trellis
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And we shall have peace.

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(Please get the reference)

rustic mountain
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i dont sorry

sudden remnant
dull ibex
molten oasis
mighty stump
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My girlfriend told me to send you all this

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Its “The Tree Of Life” showing the parallels of real life and Pokemon

shadow wind
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I don’t know why he keeps abbreviating it and acting like we all know what it is

solid frigate
dull ibex
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Hey vgc gang

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I've been playing 2019's format

solid frigate
dull ibex
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Fair enough

molten oasis
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Oinkologne lmao

molten oasis
dull ibex
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Hard.

molten oasis
dull ibex
molten oasis
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Oh nice, I assume primals run that format? It’s a mega format too right?

dull ibex
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Yes

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To both

molten oasis
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Makes sense, what are you running?

dull ibex
molten oasis
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Oh yea its a tapu format, cool team

dull ibex
molten oasis
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Nice, I’m waiting for the new megas abilities to come out first before theory crafting

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We’re amoonguss and incin in the game?

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Well not incin cuz he was in trailers

dull ibex
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Amoonguss might just not be

molten oasis
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Damn

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Nice to not have to deal with spore for a bit tho

shadow wind
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Wait till they reveal Smeargle

solid frigate
dull ibex
solid frigate
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Except with different items

molten oasis
solid frigate
stone trellis
molten oasis
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I’m probably using metagross or zard from the old set of megas there

shadow wind
mighty stump
dull ibex
mighty stump
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my guess is looking better @foggy lodge

stone trellis
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And I didn't even make it by copying somebody else's idea either.

mighty stump
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How original can you be if you’re using CIR

molten oasis
shadow wind
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I find those Tera grass seed bomb CIRs pretty original

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And they 6-0 me so they stick out for sure

solid frigate
graceful scaffold
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I know this is mostly doubles but I really want to know if PU is just used coz it sounds like what you say when something is smelly? Then what ZU mean

stone trellis
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ZU means ZeroUsed.

graceful scaffold
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

stone trellis
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PU is basically between NU and ZU.

graceful scaffold
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So if it doesn't stand for anything am I right in that its just the sound you make for smelly stuff, like P.U.

stone trellis
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Yes.

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That's the joke behind the name.

waxen dock
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Guys

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New format will releasw in seattle stream trust

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You will see my message and say how was he right and the format will be reg i

warm estuary
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Reg K

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Trust

next stump
foggy lodge
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I think P2 Ursa may win the whole thing

bold geode
bold geode
bold geode
stone trellis
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It is weird and stupid, but it absolutely shreds sometimes.

bold geode
sharp cobalt
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I cant wait for Champions and using M-Chesnaught

upper zealot
stone trellis
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The point is that I didn't directly copy an existing team for once and built it from the ground up.

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And it succeeded.

foggy lodge
bold geode
solid frigate
bold geode
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Aight
Seattle Day 2

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@foggy lodge so which Bolt Balance player wins today

foggy lodge
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Joji is out so

dense latch
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shoutout this guy for taking this to 6-3

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bold geode
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@foggy lodge there was 9 Goltres in Day 2

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Literally as many Goltres in Day 2 as Cresselia

foggy lodge
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Goltres is good

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Too much psyspam

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Taran Birdee 10-0

foggy lodge
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Why is Regigigas 8-2

dull ibex
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oh my god vgc 2019 is gone

bold geode
dull ibex
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im loooking to get back into regulation f

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are there any straight foward teams to pilot?

next stump
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CHICAGO LOCAL LEGEND ETHAN TREJO HAS SECURED BACK TO BACK TOP CUTS WITH SPEED BOOSTER IRON CROWN

dull ibex
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if not ig I can go back to regulation I

shadow wind
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I mean Reg I is pretty fire

foggy lodge
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I would have planned around it being spa booster lol

shadow wind
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Let’s be grateful there isn’t a booster Mon that can actually abuse Acro, moon is by far the closest but if he was a flying type it’d be over

foggy lodge
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Justin is playing this super well

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Excuse me

stone trellis
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The singular physical attacker makes me want to puke.

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"Oh yeah, Pokemon is totally fair to physical attackers and there's no special attention given to special attackers whatsoever"
Average team nowadays:

molten oasis
shadow wind
foggy lodge
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Rilla is not in top 12

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Man I wish I was a psyspam or Amoonguss player in NA

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Literal heaven

waxen dock
warm estuary
dull ibex
warm estuary
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Oh

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Then the like go to team rn is bolt balance

dull ibex
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🤔

warm estuary
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Or you could try psyspam

dull ibex
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do you have a paste for either?

warm estuary
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Uhm

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Wait lemme see

dull ibex
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thanks

warm estuary
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Bolt balance

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You can switch some mons around

dull ibex
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I found a psyspam team\

warm estuary
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Like landorus can also work

warm estuary
dull ibex
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ill workshop it

warm estuary
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Great

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Also another great set is booster energy with calm mind for bolt

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Or electro web over snarl

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Or more bulky tera steel mystic water urshif

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Or focus sash flutter

dull ibex
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🙂

warm estuary
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A lot of different sets can be used

warm estuary
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Rain dance farigiraf😭

dull ibex
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I played worse for sure

next stump
foggy lodge
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Damn Justin out

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Good shit Ethan

shadow wind
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Ethan my new goat??

bold geode
bold geode
next stump
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NOW HE IS ON STREAM

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LETS GO

foggy lodge
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I think Emilio wins

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Specs Chi-Yu is too good into psyspam

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But eh is playable

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Just a little rough to get through the Chi Yu

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Lowkey

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Its fine yeah cuz Chi-Yu now has sun and tailwind lol

bold geode
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<@&663761167176433665> there's a scam afoot

foggy lodge
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This is not guss in the back

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oh no there's guss

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And now he wins damn good adaptation from Emilio

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Makes sense to bring guss in the end they can't pick the psyspam mode against this Chi Yu

bold geode
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Oh he brought the Psyspam mode?

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Ethan what you cookin

foggy lodge
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If there's chi yu is over

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There's no Chi Yu

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But its fine cuz there's shadow ball now

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lol just dazzling

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Too good

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Shadow ball rage powder gg

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Oh the shifu is scarf yeah

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Powder protect is the right one

dull ibex
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@bold geode monke how is pult rn

sudden remnant
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did we get confirmation on what the regulation will be yet

next stump
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there's a graphic floating around from a few months ago where pokemon says that Reg F is the format until champions comes

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let me find it

sudden remnant
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

next stump
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I'd say like 95%+ chance we have another month of Reg F in april

molten oasis
dull ibex
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It's usable?

molten oasis
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Yes

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But it’s not great

dull ibex
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Might try to use it then

sudden remnant
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tpci why do you pick this dogshit ass regulation

molten oasis
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Only sets I’ve seen are band sets

dull ibex
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That was my plan

dull ibex
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I assume F

bold geode
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@sudden remnant do not make comments regarding self harm

sudden remnant
molten oasis
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Reg I pult isnt good lol

sudden remnant
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chat do i pull out support spectrier for the next month

shadow wind
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Eh I say just play Reg I

dull ibex
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what team can i build around dragapult :thonl

bold geode
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Taran has the game locked

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?

foggy lodge
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No because he didn't switc guss out xd

bold geode
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Yeah that was a bad switch for Taran

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I feel like Taran kinda just threw that game away on that one turn

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Hell could've just Powdered and attacked potentially

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The Flutter was healthy enough to make it thru the Amoonguss

foggy lodge
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CONFUSION

sudden remnant
bold geode
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LOL

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Wait are both mons confused?

foggy lodge
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yes

bold geode
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LMAO

foggy lodge
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But he has to switch guss out now anyways

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Crit lol

bold geode
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Yeah it also got Spores off so

foggy lodge
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But it's a very good play

dull ibex
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whats good into fairy types in reg f?

foggy lodge
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Taran is being really lucky with the sleep turns

sudden remnant
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heavy slam

bold geode
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Gholdengo
Steel Teras on mons are good tbh

foggy lodge
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Pao back

dull ibex
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monke im being the change i want to see in the world

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im building my own pult team

bold geode
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Do you want a cookie?

sudden remnant
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im building a support spectrier team im for sure not cooking but i dont care about this fuckin game anymore

dull ibex
bold geode
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What
I want a cookie

foggy lodge
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Crit loo

dull ibex
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Honestly I'd prefer some candy

bold geode
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Yikes

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I mean the crit is not too bad is it

foggy lodge
#

Kills anyways

#

Cuz it's special attack booster

bold geode
#

Taran cleans up now tbh

foggy lodge
#

They should give ice shard a freeze chance so you could freeze with priority

bold geode
dull ibex
bold geode
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Looks fine

dull ibex
#

struggling with a sixth

bold geode
#

When in doubt

sudden remnant
dull ibex
#

It would complete the mini fwg

bold geode
sudden remnant
#

not the one i meant to click

sudden remnant
#

there we go

craggy dagger
bold geode
craggy dagger
#

Oh yeah?

bold geode
craggy dagger
#

do it-
i dare you SmugBoo

foggy lodge
#

Its not over

bold geode
#

@foggy lodge does Sebastian eat shit now or

sudden remnant
bold geode
#

Oh?

foggy lodge
#

Yes

#

Cuz Amoonguss wins now

craggy dagger
foggy lodge
#

WAIT NO ITS TERA GRASS URSHIFU

bold geode
foggy lodge
#

Its s 50

bold geode
#

What did he go for

sudden remnant
bold geode
#

Its over

foggy lodge
#

what

bold geode
#

Oh shit

foggy lodge
#

Flutter wins

#

Sebastian's

molten oasis
sudden remnant
foggy lodge
#

Taran has to read the tera grass

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Honestly I don't get the spore cuz if you know its going tera grass and that's why you don't rage powder

#

You just sludge bomb

sudden remnant
#

what tournament is today?

shadow wind
#

Seattle I think

bold geode
#

Seattle

sudden remnant
#

ah

bold geode
#

What a set

foggy lodge
#

Archa Pelipper is good I told y'all

bold geode
#

Though tbf Taran could've had that in 2

molten oasis
shadow wind
#

Man I hate Archaludon

molten oasis
#

I dont remember hearing you talk about Archaludon much

shadow wind
#

Electro shot gotta be one of the best moves ever made

molten oasis
shadow wind
#

Give me physical fire electro shot for the sun

shadow wind
#

Groudon pops him but that isn’t the point

molten oasis
#

Broken as if its biggest results were only really in reg h

shadow wind
#

Still an insane mon

molten oasis
#

Fair point

shadow wind
#

Genuinely don’t know how electro shot made it into the game

foggy lodge
#

We have to get over reg H

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Ribombee won in that format and Ninetales was a balance staple

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That format did not exist

shadow wind
#

130 BP move that raises your spatk by 1 and gets better in the best weather

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Just give sun 1 more boosted move please 😭😭😭

bold geode
#

I could play Palafin in Reg H
I miss Reg H

sudden remnant
shadow wind
#

Solar blade/beam are so trash compared to rain moves

foggy lodge
#

Tbf eshot is atleast only attached to Archaludon

#

Archaludon is an insane mon regardless

shadow wind
#

What’s up with that

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Same with Ape and Rage fist

bold geode
#

Give Thundurus Electro Shot KEKW

shadow wind
#

Ape without rage fist is still good

sudden remnant
shadow wind
#

Man I hate electro shot

#

Thinking about meteor beam makes it worse too

foggy lodge
#

I think the most broken thing of it is that it boosts even through protect

shadow wind
#

Yeah

sudden remnant
#

i run raichu electro shot is never a problem for me

shadow wind
#

😭😭😭😭😭

foggy lodge
#

Think about that

shadow wind
#

Thinking so hard right now

bold geode
foggy lodge
#

"Yeah astral barrage is a bit broken but just use Snorlax dude"

shadow wind
#

I love when my Raichu gets +3 to deal 17% to Archaludon that is also +3 and now +1 defense

sudden remnant
shadow wind
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
foggy lodge
#

Why is Sableye so good at exposing shit mons

shadow wind
sudden remnant
#

they dont run it

foggy lodge
#

Me when I lie

shadow wind
#

Yes they absolutely do 😭

sudden remnant
#

ive never seen it

shadow wind
#

Electro shot
Dragon move
Body press
Flash cannon

#

Staple av Archaludon set

sudden remnant
#

its always snarl

foggy lodge
#

You can't run Archaludon without a move to hit fairies lol

shadow wind
#

I bet +3 Archaludon body press ohkos no invest tera fairy Raichu

sudden remnant
#

maybe im just lucky then cuz ive never seen flash cannon its always snarl in the last slot

#

dragon move electro shot body press snarl

shadow wind
#

I remember losing to a Pikachu once in Reg H

#

Why am I getting reminded of this right now

foggy lodge
#

I fought a Pikachu team in bo3

#

They would just lead Tornadus Pikachu and click tailwind nuzzle and try to hax xd

sudden remnant
#

nuzzle is so good

#

twave but better 90% of the time

foggy lodge
#

Imagine if Flutter had nuzzle

sudden remnant
#

PLEASE NO

#

it would break the game 😭

foggy lodge
#

Tbf the only situation where you would prefer twave over nuzzle is if you are a prankster mon lol

sudden remnant
bold geode
#

Rob with a solid team tbh

sudden remnant
#

what mons even get nuzzle besides toxtricity and the pikachu clones

tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
#

hatenna line and this it lmao

#

how much is left of seattle im off in 10 i wanna watch whats left 🫩

bold geode
#

Huge Outrage

bold geode
sudden remnant
#

so i missed all but quarter final

bold geode
#

Yikes

#

@foggy lodge Rob fucked ain't he

molten oasis
#

Bad crit

bold geode
#

Collin top 4
Yippee

molten oasis
#

2 gleam crits oof

bold geode
#

Oh there's another top 8 match?

foggy lodge
#

I was doing my curriculum,,,

#

I prefer searching job/10 set

bold geode
dull ibex
bold geode
sudden remnant
bold geode
#

CHAT IT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER GAME RRRRRRAAAAAAAHHHHHH

#

I had nothing else to contribute my bad

sudden remnant
bold geode
#

@foggy lodge who the fuck is this Carson dude, top cut Toronto AND Seattle, shit crazy

bold geode
sudden remnant
#

both these regs are dogshit

bold geode
#

That's your opinion

#

I actually liked both those regs

sudden remnant
bold geode
#

People like different things

shadow wind
#

Every Reg is fun !

#

Because vgc is fun

bold geode
shadow wind
#

Uh

#

Well everyone has preferences

sudden remnant
foggy lodge
shadow wind
#

Don't bring up missing to me

foggy lodge
#

Very good player

bold geode
foggy lodge
#

Apparently

bold geode
#

This his first pop off or

foggy lodge
#

Alex played against him back in the old era

#

I think he just came back recently

#

But I'm going with Dominic

bold geode
#

Ah he back and shi

foggy lodge
#

He was banned

bold geode
#

Oh LMAO

sudden remnant
#

for what 💀

foggy lodge
#

Idk why

bold geode
#

I thought you were finna be like "oh btw he's a huge POS"

foggy lodge
#

Btw that's adamant pon

bold geode
#

Actually I want Carson to lose so we can all stop acting like Regidrago is an actual Pokemon

foggy lodge
#

I don't think this is 252 speed pon

#

Even without jolly

bold geode
#

Bulky Pon?

#

Attaboy

foggy lodge
#

Nah

#

Must live mystic water surging only

molten oasis
bold geode
#

With 36/52/28 you can live that Surging and take Bleakwind well

foggy lodge
#

252+ Atk Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon-Cornerstone Ivy Cudgel vs. 148 HP / 4 Def Raging Bolt: 115-136 (52.5 - 62.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

#

Its adamant

#

Gg

bold geode
#

Yeah 36/28 HP/Spdef lets you take a 3 hit from Bleakwind from 252 Timid Torn

foggy lodge
#

Cc dragon energy

#

Wait no its surging

#

Yeah cuz you have to cover the flutter switch in

#

Yeah its ggs

bold geode
#

Rockpon deceptively bulky

molten oasis
#

Ggs

#

What if incin somehow wins Kek

shadow wind
#

What even beats CIR Kyogre

#

Asking for a friend

molten oasis
#

Suuure

shadow wind
#

It's true

#

My friend is red and can't swim

#

It does feel extremely unwinnable though no?

#

Like CIR Kyogre Lando Amoonguss

#

That's a gg go next for 90% of restricted pairings

bold geode
shadow wind
#

Kyogre has 140 spdef

bold geode
#

Skill issue

#

Astral Barrage go brrr

molten oasis
bold geode
#

That was a MU I never struggled with
Zamazenta went ham tbh

#

I remember being scared when that team used Basculegion but then it just never showed up again KEKW

shadow wind
#

In the sun

#

Awesome

#

236+ SpA Kyogre Hydro Pump vs. 132 HP / 204 SpD Groudon in Sun: 102-120 (53.1 - 62.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

#

What is the point in investing a single point in spdef

#

Bro this guy just hit 2 hurricanes in the sun

#

The disrespect people have nowadays

molten oasis
#

Oh it’s that archapeli team, ok

bold geode
#

@foggy lodge is Torn guaranteed in finals

foggy lodge
#

No

bold geode
#

Does Carson not have Torn?

foggy lodge
#

Wait is it

#

I forgot

bold geode
#

If Carson has Torn, then there's two Torn on one side of the bracket

foggy lodge
#

Ah Carson has Whimsicott

bold geode
#

Ah
Well there's 1/4 Tornadus

#

Your bets still on Tornadus?

foggy lodge
#

Yeh

bold geode
#

My bets are on Collin

foggy lodge
#

Well actually like

#

I think whoever wins between Emilio and Carson wins

bold geode
#

You think this side of the bracket loses?

foggy lodge
#

Lowkey I liked knock off into guss

#

Oh amoonguss protected

#

Collin played it better lol

bold geode
#

Eh if it's Surging

foggy lodge
#

pffffff

#

I would have liked knock off

molten oasis
#

Big punish

bold geode
#

Bro should've known better

#

Collin got hella greedy

foggy lodge
#

But like why tera grass only to u turb

#

Psychic doesn't ko shifu here btw

bold geode
#

I guess to dodge Spore?

foggy lodge
#

Oops poisoned

molten oasis
#

Imagine if he had moonblast

foggy lodge
#

Removing the life orb is huge

bold geode
#

Did Collin not bring Amoonguss to the game?

foggy lodge
#

But you can sucker the Incin

#

Cress can't hit Pao

#

Oh its shard

bold geode
#

Wait no Amoonguss bring?

foggy lodge
#

No

molten oasis
#

Guess not

foggy lodge
#

Nah the game was lost after Ursa died

#

Ohhhh this is huge

bold geode
#

Ok so I guess Collin didn't have a good switch in for the Surging

foggy lodge
#

But he doesn't win anyways

bold geode
#

Oh?

molten oasis
#

Big turn actually

#

Gleam flutter for the win?

bold geode
#

No way right

#

Yeah nah

#

Need a crit

#

The fact Collin even got that close is wild

#

Sebastian stalls this for sure

foggy lodge
#

Having to headlong here is really annoying

bold geode
#

Really is

foggy lodge
#

Oh?

bold geode
#

One turn wake would be nice

foggy lodge
#

How many turns of TR

bold geode
#

Last here

foggy lodge
#

Wait

#

Ah its over he didn't earthquake xd

bold geode
#

Does Sebastian have Sacred?

foggy lodge
#

No

bold geode
#

Oh
Yeah he's fucked

foggy lodge
#

Just ice spinner you win anyways xd

#

Archa Pelipper in finals

bold geode
#

I CHEERED FOR COLLIN I GOTTA STOP CHEERING FOR PEOPLE

molten oasis
#

Didn’t target Pao there, huh

foggy lodge
#

I think you eq anyways

bold geode
#

Yeah you eq

foggy lodge
#

Cuz like Flutter is not winning a 1v1 against neither of them

#

With eq maybe you ko pao

#

Cuz its lorb recoil + guts boosted eq

bold geode
#

Yeah idt Sebastian beats Emilio

molten oasis
#

We’ll just have to see

foggy lodge
#

Eh hmmm

#

What stops protect protect from Sebastian's side?

#

Is the Amoonguss protect?

molten oasis
#

Yes

foggy lodge
#

Weird then cuz like its last turn of tr

molten oasis
#

Why is amoonguss so goated at getting poisons lmao

foggy lodge
#

Protect protect you stall the last turn and then rage powder tera stellar sucker into flutter

#

Or not

#

Eh its a 50

#

Cuz is Sebastian double protects and Collin EQs Collin loses cuz he loses Flutter

#

But if he double tects then Collin has a safe EQ cuz pao can't protect anymore

molten oasis
#

Super offensive teams this tournament

#

Also what’s the fairy amoonguss tech for? Stalling out raging bolts or smth?

bold geode
molten oasis
#

I see

bold geode
#

Tera Fairy Rage Powder means CM Bolt can't do anything

molten oasis
bold geode
#

@foggy lodge does Sebastian beat Carson?

#

LMAO

#

That blows

molten oasis
#

Horrendous luck lmao

foggy lodge
#

@mighty stump none of us was right but finals is cool

#

Life orb tera stellar pao is in finals

left bobcat
#

Lorb pao????

solid frigate
#

Yeah it’s a thing

waxen dock
#

Where is new reg

shadow wind
#

It never existed

rustic mountain
shadow wind
#

Tree do you have any ideas on what beats CIR Kyogre Amoonguss?

#

Specifically Tera grass on both of the Restricteds as well

rustic mountain
#

as a groudon player?

shadow wind
#

Nah in general

rustic mountain
#

csr/zama

shadow wind
#

I’m trying to figure out how to make my Groudons teams better into it yes but maybe a more general approach

#

Alright then yes as a Groudon player

rustic mountain
shadow wind
#

But what about CSR Zama makes it so good into CIR Kyogre? Is the wide guard and the easy spread damage?

solid frigate
#

Someone is very happy in the TCG stream huh

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rustic mountain
#

somethin to taunt shroom nd cir, not leading groudon whilst still being able to pressure

rustic mountain
shadow wind
#

Because they’ll lead like CIR Indeedee or Rilla and now Miraidon lead is completely useless

#

The Indeedee lead really cooks me

#

I usually have to outskill my opponents or I just can’t win

rustic mountain
#

u dont need e terrain t1 necessarily but yea thats like a 80-20 mu in their favor

shadow wind
#

Tomorrow my plan is to figure out that MU from scratch because it’s by far the hardest one

rustic mountain
#

teams cant cover everything even the best

shadow wind
rustic mountain
#

u fixing that mu will only worsen others

shadow wind
#

I kind of need to just reinvent my Groudon teams

#

Because I always have 4 awesome mons then 2 stragglers patching up MUs like Lando

#

So maybe I can figure out 6 that work together nicely

molten oasis
#

I keep trying to make my team as near perfect as possible and it causes, issues lol

rustic mountain
#

i think ur just too fixated on groudon whilst wanting a level of consistency it wont provide atm

rustic mountain
shadow wind
rustic mountain
#

sure

#

as long as its fun for u

lofty tartan
#

Waiting for that Champs hype WobbuParty

rustic mountain
#

the month release date is shit lol

#

a month away but no day

molten oasis
#

One month away, or two months if they go “April 30th”

lofty tartan
#

Lmao I know but it's right around the corner so milk_shrug

rustic mountain
#

it might be

lofty tartan
#

I have a bunch of crap to do the first two weeks of March, and then I have to give a training session for my guys BlobHyperSweats

rustic mountain
#

worries me they didnt specify

shadow wind
lofty tartan
#

So if it comes after that I am so ready

molten oasis
#

Valid

rustic mountain
#

id guess late april

lofty tartan
#

All good with me 😄

rustic mountain
#

otherwise wed have a date

shadow wind
#

Yeah I’m probably not going to be able to go super hard on release cause I’ll be moving first week of April

lofty tartan
#

April seems pretty open so as long as it's not a broken mess...

molten oasis
#

Hopefully

rustic mountain
#

dude

molten oasis
#

Having to play that at a regional would be brutal

rustic mountain
#

they didnt even give a specific release while its a month away and no mobile play on release

#

its gna b a mess budgetgachichamp

lofty tartan
#

Hopefully mobile isn't too too long out

molten oasis
lofty tartan
#

I'm digging the idea of mobile/Switch to open doors for more players

rustic mountain
#

i want to b hopeful for champions

lofty tartan
#

Me too

rustic mountain
#

they r just doing everything to make me not

lofty tartan
#

I feel you.

#

Hope for the best, expect the worst, I guess arkeknine

shadow wind
#

Ok I understand why people are getting mad at the 30 mon limit but really that’s 5 teams

rustic mountain
#

but yea mobile accessibility will b huge for player expansion in theory

lofty tartan
#

In theory.

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
lofty tartan
rustic mountain
#

they r paywalling box space

shadow wind
#

It’s definitely lame

rustic mountain
#

they make enough $

lofty tartan
#

Yeah I already deal with that in Home

shadow wind
#

But I don’t think I ever had more than 30 “competitive” ready mons in sv

lofty tartan
#

Let me combine boxes

rustic mountain
#

champions is meant to be an outlet to filter more players into the scene, thats where the $ comes in, not through champions itself

lofty tartan
#

Or combine subs or something

rustic mountain
#

they are greedy

rustic mountain
#

especially as the game life increases

shadow wind
#

True

lofty tartan
#

Like I understand the need to do some monetization somewhere but too much is gonna restrict entry for players, yet again going against their whole "everyone can be a champion" mythos

shadow wind
#

I started in F and didn’t know how to play the game for a while

#

And I didn’t make too many teams in game but millions of showdown teams

#

I doubt it will replace showdown in the slightest

rustic mountain
#

nah not at all

shadow wind
#

Showdown my beloved

rustic mountain
#

i thought it might, now from wat ive seen absolutely not

lofty tartan
#

I'm a showdown hater and even I know it won't replace Showdown.

rustic mountain
#

sds cool

lofty tartan
#

Okay, I don't hate showdown, I just don't like using it.

rustic mountain
#

i prefer cart but sd is such an amazing tool to be able to utilize for teambuilding and practice

shadow wind
#

I LOVE showdown because I get to turn the brain off and play 5 ladder games at once

solid frigate
#

Champions literally becomes Pokémon Home Battle Sim with that eerily similar Monetisation

rustic mountain
#

yea

#

if they kept it like, u earn through battling sure thats fine not as easy as sd but i get it. all the microtransactions being added feel unnecessary and i think deter players more then incentivize them

#

only earn through battles that is, whereas now its either or seemingly

solid frigate
#

It’s so fucking wack

shadow wind
#

This whole “P2have a mediocre time” thing is not making me a fan

vivid jungle
#

Is it currently Regulation F or Regulation I which is being played in the official VGC?

lofty tartan
#

Offical tournaments have been Regulation F, but in-game ranked battles have been Regulation I

#

At least last I knew. I'm in the Champions waiting room

vivid jungle
gentle cragBOT
rustic mountain
#

champions looks like ass kekwdisco (visually)

molten oasis
solid frigate
knotty mirage
#

I really hope champions will not be pay to win i need my money for switch 2 SadMimi

sudden remnant
#

i just discovered fake out was introduced in gen 3

#

WHERE DID I EVER MENTION MIMIKYU

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shadow wind
#

Well mimikyu is a fake pikachu

sudden remnant
shadow wind
#

Well you use Yahoo so I don’t know what you expected

sudden remnant
#

its google chrome i dont know why it went to fucking yahoo

foggy lodge
leaden fox
#

Well then 😅

waxen dock
#
poll_question_text

What will the next reg be

victor_answer_votes

6

total_votes

9

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

Reg i

#

Well still bo reg announced

leaden fox
#

I know we have Reg I in ScarVio from 1st April until end of service (so may mean Champions releases either a week or a few days before this)

#

And then it’ll be time to make a team around Megas 😅

dull ibex
#

do you guys think I can do better team wise?

leaden fox
#

It’s honestly a solid team

bold geode
dull ibex
dull ibex
mighty stump
dull ibex
#

hey things have changed

#

I got even worse at playing

mighty stump
#

Incin kinda wallops ur team barring Waterpon

#

A good FM is also gonna make things pretty uncomfortable

dull ibex
#

thats why i have ghold but yeah i agree

mighty stump
#

I’d probably switch Farig for more support for Ghold

dull ibex
#

🤔

#

that could work

bold geode
#

Hello Tofu

mighty stump
#

Dont see a point in thoat spray when u dont have SpA investment

dull ibex
#

im ngl I thought I was max special attack my bad

#

but we are swapping farig anyways