competitive_discussion

[stone trellis]

Rilla solves the Miraidon issue though.

[molten oasis]

@sudden remnant gimme your paste

[sudden remnant]

which causes a problem for my own mirai

i dont have a paste yet

[molten oasis]

Make one

[sudden remnant]

gang im at work im using voice to text rn 😭

[stone trellis]

Type of shit Vex is on right now:

(Replace "Makima" with "Paul" and it makes sense)

[sudden remnant]

doesnt really matter im not doing anything cheese like i normally would anyways

[stone trellis]

Never implied you were.

Cheese would only guarantee your loss, that's a given.

[sudden remnant]

my point was it doesnt matter that your lostening around

[sudden remnant]

sideeye

[molten oasis]

Then what do you have right now

[stone trellis]

Even if I see your full paste before the battle?

[sudden remnant]

apple notes

[molten oasis]

No, what are you current mons

[sudden remnant]

🤷‍♂️

[sudden remnant]

mirai hooh whim valiant slither wing firepon

[solid frigate]

W h y.

3 of them didn't even make sense (Ogerpon included)

[sudden remnant]

my own redirection so mirai doesnt nuke half my team

and so valiant cant spirit break my own mirai

[stone trellis]

Taunt, problem solved.

[sudden remnant]

prankster taunt to taunt your taunt

🙂

[stone trellis]

You have two Pokemon that can't damage Tera Fire Ice Rider against it, congrats.

You lose.

[solid frigate]

honesly i don't have any issues witth my Mirai Ho-Oh team besides of weak to CIR Kyogre-

And wellspring probably makes more sense into it no?

like you already have ho-oh

[stone trellis]

Good night, gang.

I need to sleep better.

[sudden remnant]

which he made completely irrelevant by changing cir tera type from water to fire

[molten oasis]

No slither wing

Slither wing is not good

[sudden remnant]

which also made firepon useless at the same time

[molten oasis]

It is the worst paradox Mon and it’s not really close

[solid frigate]

Iron Thorns in the corner:

[molten oasis]

It’s worse than thorns

[solid frigate]

Like legit I think Thorns is worse but its preference

[molten oasis]

How about zama?

Over Ho-oh

[sudden remnant]

what is it supposed to do to tera fire cir 😭

[dense latch]

protect miraidon

[solid frigate]

this is why Wellspring exists

[sudden remnant]

i will be changing it to wellspring yes

id already deduced that part when he told me hes changing to tera fire

[sudden remnant]

and just hope mirai can carry me to victory hm

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/000afbcefe9373b8

Just take my team

[sudden remnant]

who can i use that learns pollen puff since mirai has to carry me on its back rn

[dense latch]

zama can wear down his other mons with body press

[molten oasis]

Body press is neutral

You wear him down

[sudden remnant]

i also need to account for his +1 defense on it with coaching unless i lead whim zama and pray he leads valiant cir

[solid frigate]

Body Press Zama should outlive CIR without Leech Seed Lefties

[molten oasis]

It’s not seed CIR

[sudden remnant]

nor is it lefties

[solid frigate]

Yeah I know lol

[dense latch]

it's hard to counter a team when you're prohibiting yourself from using the best counters to said team

[molten oasis]

Alright, so t1, you can lead Mirai zama

[dense latch]

but zamazenta is still better than using ho-oh

[molten oasis]

And try to take it out early, or you can vswitch and try to position something into a lando if he tries to bring that in

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-yep-this-gif-13617583

[sudden remnant]

i wish there was a type that resisted both electric and ice

[solid frigate]

None

[dense latch]

that's why boltbeam is so good

[sudden remnant]

i know

[molten oasis]

Electric and ice

[sudden remnant]

well his glacial lance and my own discharge

unfortunately i cant resist both

[solid frigate]

this is why I love Screens

[sudden remnant]

i was actually considering parabolic charge

so mirai can stay healthy a bit longer

[solid frigate]

So ummm
Calm mind Parabolic Charge?

[sudden remnant]

yeah but who can sit next to +1 parabolic charge without melting while also threatening him as well

[molten oasis]

Why

Play scarf Mirai with snarl here imo

[sudden remnant]

he has wide guard

[molten oasis]

It’s not for this team that’s just the best set for zama mirai imo

You volt switch and pressure with wide guard on zama

Mind games

And then we’re gonna add chien pao

Pao helps you handle lando

[solid frigate]

Yeah Miraidon Zamazenta Pao is pretty much the best core for Miraidon Zamazenta Teams

[molten oasis]

Pao Zama also pressures Hearthflame

[sudden remnant]

and then who do i sit next to pao to tank the lance/hhp from
cir with sword of ruin active on them

[molten oasis]

Zama

[solid frigate]

W I D E G U A R D

[molten oasis]

Click wide guard

[sudden remnant]

HHP:

[molten oasis]

Tera grass

You’re getting too honed in on HHP

You’re gonna take damage, that’s fine

[sudden remnant]

im not worried about the damage my issue is cir chunking me and his mirai ending my life

[solid frigate]

Chien Pao:

[sudden remnant]

assuming it lives

[molten oasis]

It lives that

[solid frigate]

You are gonna use Focus Sash on this Bitch so

[sudden remnant]

well obviously

[molten oasis]

It’s a Zama

Zama doesn’t get one shot by many things

[sudden remnant]

we’re talking about pao????

[molten oasis]

Why are we worried about pao taking damage

[solid frigate]

Literally

[sudden remnant]

cuz he suggested using it to deal with mirai as well as lando

[solid frigate]

Chien Pao is literally the Fuck this and kill

[molten oasis]

You’re too scared of damage

Pao attacks stuff, enables a parter, and dies

[solid frigate]

you live and Ice Spinner,if they Tera,The damage is already done

[molten oasis]

That’s its role. You use pao to take out lando and mirai

[sudden remnant]

sure now how do i deal with the rest

mirai zama pao

[solid frigate]

@molten oasis do we bring out the bear(shifu)

[molten oasis]

Hmm

[sudden remnant]

wouldnt waterfu also straight diddle lando

[molten oasis]

Well he brings lando valiant CIR and mirai

Shifu’s fine there but i like volcarona

[sudden remnant]

counter offer: iron moth

[solid frigate]

FUCK NO

[sudden remnant]

it hard counters anything valiant will try and do

[molten oasis]

No it doesnt?

Volcarona. No moth

[solid frigate]

Volcarona is a lot more better here yeah

[sudden remnant]

what does volc even do here

[solid frigate]

It has Wisp,Rage Powder

[molten oasis]

Redirection

[solid frigate]

Cloak Wisp Powder

[molten oasis]

Wisp pressure. Rage powder. Can run tailwind, but I like struggle bug and fiery dance or overheat

Its support

[sudden remnant]

who am i supposed to wisp

[solid frigate]

ICE RIDER

BAIT THE TERA

[sudden remnant]

and then how do i hit a tera fire cir 🤨

[solid frigate]

It’s suppose to be a bait

Like say for example Volcarona Urshifu lead

You basically allow them to play a mind game

Cuz if they lead CIR valiant they can’t do anything to stop double up

[molten oasis]

You’re never gonna believe this

[solid frigate]

Either get burnt and lose damage or get damaged and lose health

[molten oasis]

strong neutrals

[craggy dagger]

what?

[molten oasis]

You do not need super effective damage to win

[solid frigate]

steong Neutrals lol

[sudden remnant]

well i know mirai edrift does about 90% to his cir i calced it already

[molten oasis]

See?

That Tera also opens up your pao to take out Mirai and Lando much easier

[solid frigate]

It’s just make enough damage to cripple their momentum

[craggy dagger]

eat the ice rider

[molten oasis]

Why are you blue with a different font?

[sudden remnant]

can i still run whim

[craggy dagger]

if glastrier is truly made of ice
you can make shaved ice with it

[craggy dagger]

didn’t get the valentines role, nitro shenanigans :D

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/calyrex-pokemon-sword-shield-pokemon-sword-gif-7754513530290782693

[solid frigate]

It’s technically a Moving Iceberg

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/angelina-gilberta-arknights-endfield-gif-5669674234488544322

[sudden remnant]

gilberta mentioned

[craggy dagger]

Yep!

-# did u pull Gibby?

[sudden remnant]

okay so mirai zama pao shifu volc and… whim 🥺

[sudden remnant]

i tried and failed

[craggy dagger]

damn…
i would give you a copy if i could…

[sudden remnant]

[molten oasis]

Show me how

[molten oasis]

Uhhhhh

[craggy dagger]

um

[sudden remnant]

no cotton ball?

[solid frigate]

Not a good idea

[craggy dagger]

there should be one of these on both mobile and pc

wait why not whimsicott?

[sudden remnant]

but prankster, taunt, leech seed maybe, poison powder, stun spore, i dont need tailwind cuz his only mon fast enough to outspeed me is valiant

[solid frigate]

It’s suppose to be a counter towards a CIR Miraidon Team

And ummm I am not confident after what I have gone through

[craggy dagger]

eh-?

[sudden remnant]

idk either just smile and dont break eye contact

[solid frigate]

screw it im gonna just build a CSR Zama Team,Saikyou

[craggy dagger]

isn’t miraidon whimsicott a good duo…?

[craggy dagger]

give me a pokemon to build a team around

[solid frigate]

Yeah it’s just personal Preference got me

[craggy dagger]

fair enough

[sudden remnant]

oh so i can use my cotton ball

[solid frigate]

There is no convincing of using Tera Steel Lando isn’t it

[sudden remnant]

no

the day i use non-doggo lando for any reason hell freezes over

[solid frigate]

Fuck their beauty stat

They are good and idc how they look

[craggy dagger]

@bold geode GIMME A RANDOM POKEMON

[sudden remnant]

walking wake

[solid frigate]

That’s easy tho

[sudden remnant]

in rain, not sun

[bold geode]

Doraemon

[sudden remnant]

WAIT HOW MUCH WOULD A FAKE TEARS EDRIFT DO TO CIR

cotton ball you might be my savior yet again

before fake tears it does 90% so after it should just straight up die right

[craggy dagger]

that’s not a pokemon!

[solid frigate]

thats still easy

I done that before

[sudden remnant]

moonblast fake tears taunt maybe stun spore?

[solid frigate]

Why stun spore

You have tailwind

[sudden remnant]

what do i need tailwind for

[molten oasis]

Hell yeah

[sudden remnant]

his whole team is slower than mine minus his valiant

[molten oasis]

You don’t play whimsi with scarf Mirai

Or were you thinking specs?

[sudden remnant]

and i can taunt HIS whim before he can tailwind cuz he only has 228 speed on his whim

[sudden remnant]

specs yeah

and if he teras his whim to dark to stop my taunt then he cant tera on anything else and isnt immune to my stun spore anymore

and give whim a mental herb so his cant encore mine into taunt

am i cooking chat

and his whim isnt sash so i might be able to nuke it with moonblast from mine with a little bit of SpA investment if he does tera dark

chat im cooking

no im not his whim doesnt die in one hit from mine even with 252 without no longer outspeeding

by changing from timid to modest

[molten oasis]

Then you do tailwind whimsi

[sudden remnant]

i dont need it

his mirai is only 116 spe investment

although encore might be better than stun spore

i dont need tailwind though

ill take tw anyways just in case over leech seed i dont think ill need it but ill have it just in case

[molten oasis]

dude

Whimsi uses tailwind. Use tailwind.

[sudden remnant]

for what

tell me what i need it for against him

[molten oasis]

Why are you only building this team to counter one person

[sudden remnant]

because thats all its for

[molten oasis]

Then literally make a team of 4 mons

[sudden remnant]

its bo3

[molten oasis]

You don’t bring whimsi to CIR

so it doesn’t matter what your set is

You don’t take it there

[sudden remnant]

and why not

[bold geode]

YEAH WELL YOU'RE STIMKY

[craggy dagger]

SO ARE YOU

[bold geode]

NUH UH

[craggy dagger]

YUH UH

i smell of oranges
what do you smell of-
sweat-?

[bold geode]

[craggy dagger]

OWIE

[bold geode]

Monkey foot

And rabbit hair

[craggy dagger]

Monke bit me so we gotta put him down

[bold geode]

And sloth jerky and ass cheek

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

Go go gadget CIR glacial lance

Then he’s +1

[sudden remnant]

oh what happened to “oh use wide guard use wide guard 🤓 ”

and tera water on whim only takes max roll 33% from a glacial 50% if hes +1

[sudden remnant]

and it allows me to nuke the icy with fake tears + edrift

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/dobby-gif-22195730

[sudden remnant]

252 specs edrift does about 90% to icy fake tears lets me straight up delete it from existence

[molten oasis]

You don’t have zama whimsi and mirai on the field at the same time

[sudden remnant]

if it dies i dont need wide guard now do i

[molten oasis]

Fake tears doesn’t work on clam

So that doesn’t work

[sudden remnant]

would still let me click stun spore

[molten oasis]

???

[craggy dagger]

Hey-
who pinged me here

[molten oasis]

Why are you playing stun spore?

[craggy dagger]

[sudden remnant]

because i CAN?

[molten oasis]

You won’t run tailwind but you’ll run stun spore???

[sudden remnant]

BROTHER

[sudden remnant]

^^^

[molten oasis]

Stun spore is a speed control move

You don’t need both

[solid frigate]

Doesnt Miraidon still Ignores it anyway since it’s an Electric Type and Electric Types are immune to Para

[molten oasis]

Whimsi plays tailwind encore moonblast and light screen/protect/fake tears

[sudden remnant]

i dont need tailwind into his team at all

[sudden remnant]

its for everything else

his mirai is slow

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-grimmsnarl-olangaar-gif-2916414586481338644

[molten oasis]

Ah yes let’s para the already 50 base speed CIR

[dense latch]

what did i miss and why are we discussing stun spore

[sudden remnant]

yeah so it cant move 25% of the time

[solid frigate]

H o n s e

[bold geode]

@craggy dagger

[dense latch]

so a 75% chance to hit then a 25% chance for it to get paralyzed

[sudden remnant]

my specs mirai does 90% to it i just need that last little bit of damage and if it cant move it dies

[solid frigate]

Atp just use Grimmsnarl

[bold geode]

So you wanna just gamble

[sudden remnant]

yeah im playing pokemon 🤨

[bold geode]

Instead of actually idk
Figuring out a consistent gameplan

[sudden remnant]

everything is a gamble

[bold geode]

Your mom was a gamble

[sudden remnant]

my mom was a piece of shit thatnk you very much

[bold geode]

Well you didn't roll the dice right

[dense latch]

your “hard counter” shouldn’t be so reliant on luck

[rustic mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerdge-gif-23738139

[bold geode]

Sorry that was too far

[sudden remnant]

now anyways crits are a gamble damage rolls are a gamble misses are a gamble

[dense latch]

i play competitive pokemon being a nerd is basically a requirement 😭

[sudden remnant]

pokemon is literally gambling disguised as a kids game

[rustic mountain]

tru

[solid frigate]

Basically

[rustic mountain]

i jus think that gif is funny

[bold geode]

I need Pokemon to make an IRL game corner in Vegas

[molten oasis]

So you wanna cheese him

[sudden remnant]

i cant burn the horse cuz it can tera fire unless i waste his tera elsewhere

[molten oasis]

Through rng

[dense latch]

o yea fs lmao

[solid frigate]

Confused Pory

[molten oasis]

Instead of having a consistent game plan

[sudden remnant]

oh id love to cheese him id feel so good

[craggy dagger]

PUNCH ME I DARE TOU

[molten oasis]

Consistency is key

[solid frigate]

Actually I don’t think they have a game plan

[craggy dagger]

-# class time bye

[bold geode]

SQUARE UP THEN

[solid frigate]

Pory2 how I miss that bastard

[rustic mountain]

p2 is still solid

[molten oasis]

GIVE ME A MEXICAN DISH THAT ENDS WITH “-ITO”

[bold geode]

Uuuuuhh
UHHHHHHH

Taco ito?

[solid frigate]

I miss it during Reg H lol

Wait why did I forgot this guy is a thing in Reg F

[rustic mountain]

yea lol p2 ursa is still strong

[rustic mountain]

except now u get to add urshi and flutter

[sudden remnant]

fine no stun spore but tailwind still doesnt help me cuz i outspeed his team anyways

[bold geode]

I love Gachiakuta

[solid frigate]

Yeah I was like tunnel vision on Cress Ursa and I forgot P2 is better lol

[bold geode]

(Except for well one episode)

[rustic mountain]

cress is ight its seen some results in reg f 2

tho p2 ursa def has been more consistent and has won actual events

[bold geode]

Tree have you seen Gachiakuta

[rustic mountain]

nah

[bold geode]

It's good
Though there's one episode that is well
It's not light hearted for sure

If you know you know

[rustic mountain]

ive read berserk i think ill b fine

[bold geode]

Uuuummmmmm
You say that

[sudden remnant]

how about moonblast encore helping hand taunt

is HH “consistent” enough for you

[molten oasis]

You don’t take whimsi into CIR

[sudden remnant]

i dont need tailwind his team is slow i checked all of them already

[molten oasis]

So sure whatsver. Not gonna argue over this tw anymore cuz you’re building a team to beat one person.

Play sash shifu and call it a day

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-3584473422170938815

[sudden remnant]

what do i give pao then

[molten oasis]

Sash Pao mystic water shifu cloak whims

[sudden remnant]

mirror herb whim his whim has encore and his valiant has taunt

[molten oasis]

jesus Christ whatever man

[balmy glen]

I meannn

[sudden remnant]

my fault for having reasons for my original ideas

[balmy glen]

ur building for draft?

[sudden remnant]

no

for a 1v1

[balmy glen]

U already know his 6

[sudden remnant]

yeah

[balmy glen]

lmao

[sudden remnant]

i have his ots

[sudden remnant]

he gave me his ots with the certainty that i wont win

[foggy lodge]

Isn't his team tera fire cir and hearthflame

[sudden remnant]

yes

with av mirai

[foggy lodge]

Why the hell isn't rockpon on your team

[molten oasis]

When do you take whimsi into CIR?

Is it not similar logic to tornsdus into a CIR?

[sudden remnant]

cuz drago and torrentsegis made the team not me the only ones i contributed myself was whim and mirai

[sudden remnant]

although they did say waterfu so ig theres still a way to hit icy

[foggy lodge]

Sash water shifu is good into CIR Mirai yea

[rustic mountain]

encore pressure if ur sash id imagine

[sudden remnant]

i was told use sash pao to threaten mirai and lando and mystic water shifu

for shifu reasons

[molten oasis]

You can do shifu or lando

I think pao does better into lando personally

[molten oasis]

He’s not tho

[sudden remnant]

i know how he plays i can encore his cir into protect

ive used his team in cart ladder 😭

[molten oasis]

Protecting into whimsi is really risky

[rustic mountain]

ok cool lets not talk about this anymore then

[molten oasis]

Back to hell

[foggy lodge]

tree what is the call for seattle

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-3584473422170938815

[sudden remnant]

if i lead whim mirai hes cooked either way

[shadow wind]

Team building might be trickier than I remember

[rustic mountain]

bolt balance

[dense latch]

dragon hammer bolt

[foggy lodge]

Did you hit the road of all your teams looking similar to the one you are creating rn

I think anything with Tornadus can win

Torn Ursa or psyspam

[shadow wind]

Well I’ve been doing that since Groudon entered the builder

I want to use AV parabolic charge Miraidon but then that means my glorious hands doesn’t have AV

[foggy lodge]

Life orb Miraidon

[shadow wind]

I refuse

[sudden remnant]

groudon mirai tera electric discharge

make the world go kaboom

[shadow wind]

Whole point is I need a defensive Miraidon set also

[sudden remnant]

av

[foggy lodge]

Shuca berry tera steel Miraidon

[shadow wind]

Need a Miraidon with longevity so that parabolic charge matters

[shadow wind]

Thank you for stating what I literally just said 2 messages ago

[sudden remnant]

you’re welcome 😁

[shadow wind]

Anyway

I might have to just explode hands and use something else

But I love hands so much

[sudden remnant]

does hands learn explosion

that would be funny

[molten oasis]

Hands is the goat

[shadow wind]

Dude that’s what I’m saying

But AV Miraidon takes his identity away

[foggy lodge]

ELECTRIC SEED SWORDS DANCE HANDS

[shadow wind]

Go home 😭😭

[sudden remnant]

no explosion. boooooo.

[shadow wind]

I’d rather use electric seed body press booster defense hands

[dense latch]

real

[shadow wind]

Although I feel like I remember testing if booster defense boosted body press and I don’t think it does

[foggy lodge]

Iron Hands @ Electric Seed
Ability: Quark Drive
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire

• Detect
• Drain Punch
• Thunder Punch
• Swords Dance

[foggy lodge]

Actually booster atk boosts body press

[dense latch]

i dont wanna play this 😭

[sudden remnant]

thunder punch mentioned in the big 26

[shadow wind]

Dude that’s all the ladder is today

I don’t know where all these Terapagos came from

[foggy lodge]

You also fell for the reg I propaganda💔

[sudden remnant]

csr pagos is crazy

[shadow wind]

And my team loses 6-0 to Terapagos

Not one encore or taunt on that team

[sudden remnant]

i swear that turtle is the devil incarnate

[craggy dagger]

tera normal choice band explosion regi eleki

[shadow wind]

So they just get to cm and intimidate cycle me and gg go next

[sudden remnant]

peak

[dense latch]

i won :))

[shadow wind]

You need to tell me how

I don’t understand the Pagos MU

[dense latch]

they didnt see it coming

scarf miraidon

[sudden remnant]

why does no one expect scarf mirai

[shadow wind]

Did they not lead the Rilla?

[dense latch]

dude didnt even bring it

[shadow wind]

Bruh

[sudden remnant]

so they trolled

[dense latch]

i actually almost lost bc i expected rilla in the back

so i didnt switch in mirai so i wouldnt get faked out

[shadow wind]

I swear my opponents insta click Rilla every single time

[dense latch]

then he went for comfey and hh astral kod my volc and chipped ice rider but mirai just finished it off then

[foggy lodge]

Actually how do you beat Incin Rilla cycle?

[dense latch]

im about to hit 1500

[shadow wind]

Goat

[dense latch]

i don't

[shadow wind]

I don’t

[foggy lodge]

damn

[rustic mountain]

goku to piccolo wen hes fighting raditz

[shadow wind]

Walking wake kills em both but not well

[rustic mountain]

wakes mid

[sudden remnant]

YO

[dense latch]

miraidon vs early saiyan saga goku who wins

[shadow wind]

Wake is in fact mid !

[sudden remnant]

nah wake is peak yall just dont get it 😔

i love my ancient suicune

[rustic mountain]

like pre vegeta?

[shadow wind]

But I don’t have a better answer to Tera grass Zama

[dense latch]

yea

[shadow wind]

I think it’s you that doesn’t get it

[rustic mountain]

miraidon prolly gets it

[dense latch]

before he dies

[foggy lodge]

Landorus?

[rustic mountain]

miraidon id say

[sudden remnant]

wake is goated

[dense latch]

i think miraidon gets slimed vs kaioken goku tho

[shadow wind]

I used that Mon so much it’s not even funny anymore

[molten oasis]

The reg I propaganda?

[rustic mountain]

yea

[shadow wind]

Bro wants me to have 18 ground types on one team

It ain’t happening

[rustic mountain]

lol

[shadow wind]

1 is almost too many

[foggy lodge]

True

[shadow wind]

CIR keeps them in strict check

I think I might go back to Volcmaxxing

It helps so much against so many mons and it helps hugely with Groudons weaknesses

But the issue is that I want QD and will o wisp

[molten oasis]

Idk if I wanna play reg I or reg f

[shadow wind]

Play I

[molten oasis]

Both are fun and boring at the same time I swear

[shadow wind]

Reg I has quicker games

Do you really want to watch a bolt go +4 +4 and the sweep you for the 14th time?

[molten oasis]

No

[shadow wind]

Exactly

But recently it’s been Pagos doing that in Reg I so pick your poison I guess

My poison is taunt flutter mane

I think that’s my solution

[molten oasis]

I just have to figure out what I wanna do

I play zacian, so that’s not changing, but idk what other restricted I wanna play

Mirai’s good but I want spread.
CSR just make me feel like im playing worse zama CSR
And I don’t like playing kyogre

Lunala, just, is bad into incin

[shadow wind]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Calyrex-Ice in Electric Terrain: 225-265 (109.2 - 128.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Might be a fan of this Miraidon character

It's literally just figuring out what sets I wanna run

[molten oasis]

Real

Maybe I just need to play kyogre

And learn to suck up the pulse misses

[shadow wind]

I want AV Miraidon AND AV hands 😔

But maybe I don't need av Miraidon if I have struggle bug volc?

Hmmm

Going to be in the lab

[sudden remnant]

just got in my coworkers car and shes playing chop suey

peak 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[sudden remnant]

how bulky do i make it

[molten oasis]

I don’t have a spread for it but you want mostly physical bulk

Defense>hp>speed>spD>spA

[sudden remnant]

i could go like 252 def bold lmao

LMAO THE TOP RESULT ON MUNCHSTATS IS 204 def bold

252/0/204/12/12/28

[shadow wind]

I mean makes sense

Whole point is that you do well into Zama, CIR, Pao, Koraidon pre flare blitz nuke

Mines 196 bold

[sudden remnant]

now to ev whim

🫠

[shadow wind]

Ah heck nah

[sudden remnant]

av mirai?

[shadow wind]

And light screen

[sudden remnant]

oh its cooked lmao

[shadow wind]

I'm playing super no fun now

[shadow wind]

Alright funs over I just matched into 3 Kyogres in a row

[molten oasis]

Ice beam hits like a wet noodle

I think hydro pump would have hit harder lmao

[shadow wind]

110 x 1.5 x 1.5 x .5

[molten oasis]

Vs 90 x 1.5

[shadow wind]

2x

Ice beam hits harder

[molten oasis]

Is it 2x? Oops

[shadow wind]

Well super effective

Did I just encounter a covert cloak Kyogre?

[molten oasis]

Bruh

[shadow wind]

All that to be slower than my Volc

And 5 Kyogres in a row

Apparently ladder has it out for me

[sudden remnant]

120 128 136 144 152 160 168 okay 168 is a valid number

[shadow wind]

That your Whims evs?

Oh never mind

[sudden remnant]

yes

the 168 is at least

[shadow wind]

I have the greatest whims evs of all time

Whimsicott @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Moonblast
• Encore
• Light Screen
• Tailwind

Many days and many nights I thought about this ev spread

[sudden remnant]

112 is not a viable number but 144 and 252 are

erm

[molten oasis]

Even with splash plate ice beam hits harder

[molten oasis]

As in it does 30% instead of 25%

[shadow wind]

Oh my goodness

[sudden remnant]

im running 168 hp 20 spa 68 spd and 252 speed

i never ever live a glacial so i calced it to tank mirai instead

[shadow wind]

How much damage y'all think this did

Tera electric also

Also I just went from 1500 to 1600 with only Kyogre games and won them all

Maybe I cooked with this team

[molten oasis]

To this day still don’t understand why the calys get 120 bp completely accurate moves and groudon and kyogre don’t

[sudden remnant]

gen 3 vs gen 8

[shadow wind]

Cause money

[molten oasis]

(Except spout)

[shadow wind]

Spout and eruption almost make up for it

[sudden remnant]

doesnt groudon learn eruption

[molten oasis]

Almost.

Yeah but groudon rarely runs it

[molten oasis]

250%

[shadow wind]

Bro low balled

196+ SpA Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift (260 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kyogre in Electric Terrain: 644-760 (368 - 434.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

You're crazy for that low

[sudden remnant]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 172 SpD Tera Fire Calyrex-Ice in Electric Terrain: 444-524 (109.9 - 129.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

icy who 🫠

[shadow wind]

Also why did my Volc ohko an Amoonguss

[molten oasis]

Okay

[sudden remnant]

LMAO

[molten oasis]

I thought cuz of the special bulk it would have taken less

I was clearly wrong

[sudden remnant]

mirai just blows icy into oblivion TT

[molten oasis]

That almost kills 4 kyogres LMAO

[shadow wind]

4 SpA Volcarona Overheat vs. 244 HP / 108 SpD Amoonguss: 204-240 (92.7 - 109%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

Oh jeez so it actually isn't that crazy

[shadow wind]

Kills 4 on a good roll !

[molten oasis]

Overheat on 135 spA

[shadow wind]

4 invest

[shadow wind]

I just didn't think that Volc had that dog in it

[sudden remnant]

so maybe i calc mirai against his? since his icy just fucking dies

[molten oasis]

Still 135, it hits hard anyway

[shadow wind]

Oh for sure

[molten oasis]

Sure

[shadow wind]

Gotta remember he has spirit break though

So you're almost always going to be -1 unless you use redirection

[sudden remnant]

bro even if the icy runs a +SpD nature it still drops 100% of the time

[shadow wind]

Which is hard because he has taunt on the same mon

[sudden remnant]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 172+ SpD Tera Fire Calyrex-Ice in Electric Terrain: 406-478 (100.4 - 118.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/73d6d81123aebf74

I don't know how I feel about this team yet

It's been working like a charm but so many pieces feel just weird for the team

[sudden remnant]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Miraidon: 372-438 (92 - 108.4%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

I DONT NEED TO RISK DRACO MISSING

LMAO

[shadow wind]

You gotta risk the draco

Only real way to play Miraidon

[sudden remnant]

hell no

if i miss draco im cooked

[shadow wind]

Rather play for a 90% than a 50%

[sudden remnant]

lemme see if mystic water shifu aqua jet can do 8%

[balmy glen]

No

Depends on their restricted partner

Whims is valid as an adjustment into Kyogre CIR

[shadow wind]

Yeah my bad should've seen that one comin

[sudden remnant]

252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 20 Def Miraidon: 18-22 (8.6 - 10.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever IT DOES THE LAST 8% I NEED 100% OF THE TIME

no risking draco misses for me ✌️

[molten oasis]

I see

[sudden remnant]

does that say tera ground pao with icy wind 💀

[shadow wind]

And it wasn't even av

[molten oasis]

My favorite

Playing miraidon and getting hit with the stray Tera grounds

[shadow wind]

Yeah that's just a turn 1 loss every time

[sudden remnant]

maybe they got tired of the mirai MU

[molten oasis]

That’s usually why people start ripping Tera ground lol

[shadow wind]

Well yeah it's cts bo1 they can be cheesemasters with no repercussions

[molten oasis]

Alr time to cook zacogre again

[shadow wind]

Man I just love when people lead both restricteds

Bro wants to show off their team so badly

Bruh

Did we just forget tailwind was a thing?

[sudden remnant]

84+ Atk Tera Fire Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 52 HP / 4 Def Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: 45-53 (24.7 - 29.1%) -- 99.7% chance to 4HKO

84+ Atk Tera Fire Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 4 HP / 52 Def Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: 42-51 (23.8 - 28.9%) -- 98.1% chance to 4HKO

erm why are the calcs different HOW DOES THIS WORK TT

[dense latch]

because they're different stats?

HP and defense scale differently

[sudden remnant]

yeah but how does less hp and more def make the damage less 🫠

[shadow wind]

We cannot be serious

[molten oasis]

Huh, I thought lower always increased more

[sudden remnant]

trueeeeee 🫠

[rustic mountain]

huh

[shadow wind]

Calc is against Shifu

[sudden remnant]

chat how do i ev zamazenta

[rustic mountain]

bulk

[sudden remnant]

https://pokepast.es/4aa8d14cf509b6ad

i have everyone else ev'd

[rustic mountain]

my team got wiped otherwise id give the zama spread i used

dont remember wat it was but it was goated

[sudden remnant]

what should i make it considering i went body press and heavy slam over bbash

[rustic mountain]

more def based

bit in speed

rest in hp sp def to live certain things u think will b common and 4 atk

[dense latch]

why snarl and dragon pulse on your miraidon

[rustic mountain]

[sudden remnant]

im not risking draco miss and idk what else to put but snarl

[sudden remnant]

[sudden remnant]

^

[dense latch]

50% chance to ko vs 90% chance to ko

[rustic mountain]

ur doin aqua jet into miraidon calcs this is certainly something

[dense latch]

even with the aqua jet that means you're commiting a double up

[shadow wind]

Erik I said the same thing !

[dense latch]

o lmao

[rustic mountain]

[sudden remnant]

i dont plan to have them on the field at the same time more like chip with the aqua jet and get the dragon pulse in later

[shadow wind]

Also I need thoughts on a team

[sudden remnant]

or vice versa

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/73bf69090d4e4851

Pushed from 1500 to 1600 with only Kyogres and won every game but the whole team feels awkward

[sudden remnant]

he has 0 recovery so i dont have to worry about that

[rustic mountain]

it looks awkward

[dense latch]

i dont get the bundle

[sudden remnant]

i lie ogerpon has horn leech

but that doesnt help his bike

[dense latch]

how much is parabolic charge actually doing or healing

and is it better than having the utility of snarl

[sudden remnant]

so for zama 4 atk and 252 def and figure out how to distribute the other 252

[rustic mountain]

sun abuse + e terrain abuse isnt gna work most of the time, round out the team w/ things that benefit ur 2 main mons (mirai and g money)

[shadow wind]

I'm not sure yet

[rustic mountain]

u can have 1 or 2 other damage pieces but u dont have enough support really, its like this guy helps into this 1 team and thats kinda it

[dense latch]

yea there's really not much offensive pressure aside from your two resitrcteds

and one of them isn't all too reliable

[shadow wind]

Snarl felt worse cause I have light screen + struggle bug already

[rustic mountain]

bundles mid

[shadow wind]

But Volc no tailwind feels bad into every team that isn't CIR

[molten oasis]

Hm, im debating if I wanna play one of the fake out guys with zacogre

[sudden remnant]

how much speed does zama even run

[rustic mountain]

exactly

[molten oasis]

Rilla kinda nice

[dense latch]

rilla is nice

[shadow wind]

So way too much support for sure

[dense latch]

it's very annoying for me

[molten oasis]

Rilla helps a bunch with Mirai

[shadow wind]

But I need to find what parts of the team work very well and which ones don't

[molten oasis]

And lando, and Ursa

[dense latch]

i've been stuck with a miraidon vs a rilla and tera grass kyogre in grassy terrain way too often

[molten oasis]

Tho that probably hurts using amoonguss a bit

[shadow wind]

Might go specs Miraidon with electric moves

[dense latch]

i'd try rillaboom

[molten oasis]

Bet

[rustic mountain]

do u use that site that tracks that very data?

[shadow wind]

😔

[rustic mountain]

is that a no

[shadow wind]

To be fair it's been like 10 games total

[rustic mountain]

im not talkin sd

u use sd games but its another site u feed the info to and it tells u what does well what does bad into what

[sudden remnant]

220 SpA Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 200 HP / 0 SpD Zamazenta-Crowned in Electric Terrain: 112-133 (58.3 - 69.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
oof

[dense latch]

conner uses pasrs but idk if he does for this team

[shadow wind]

Not for this team no

[rustic mountain]

prolly a good idea to do if ur lookin for that very specific kinda info (whats working and what isnt and what exactly they are and arent working into)

[shadow wind]

The straight numbers only do so much for me

[molten oasis]

Hmmm, I’d go cm kyogre but that hurts trying to pivot around and keep rain up

[rustic mountain]

its certainly a start

[shadow wind]

So they para but I don't burn

[rustic mountain]

yes

[shadow wind]

Aight

[rustic mountain]

stop relying on flame body to proc every hit

[molten oasis]

It’ll happen when it happens

[shadow wind]

I'm not relying I swear

[rustic mountain]

also is that atk boost hands?

[shadow wind]

I would just like it to proc

[sudden remnant]

https://pokepast.es/8c0213712dd598eb
thoughts?
220 SpA Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 100 HP / 152 SpD Zamazenta-Crowned in Electric Terrain: 100-118 (55.5 - 65.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[shadow wind]

And helping hand 😔

Lowkey my Volc is a champ

[rustic mountain]

ahh ok was gna say that did quite a lot

[dense latch]

you're wasting evs on zamazenta

[shadow wind]

152 isn't real 😔

[rustic mountain]

yea evs cant be divisible by 8

[sudden remnant]

yeah it is 🙁

[shadow wind]

Brodegahedron

[sudden remnant]

100 108 116 124 132 140 148 oh shi

[dense latch]

if you're investing into an even amount of stats then you're 100% wasting evs

just do 148 and put 4 into speed

or you could make it a bit speedier and try to speed creep their miraidon

[sudden remnant]

got it

[dense latch]

which is probably not that fast

[shadow wind]

Ok I need help unjumbling my head for a second

[sudden remnant]

his mirai is 116 timid

so 171 i think?

[dense latch]

ok that's not worth it

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/c1e05581228c3a90 …moon?

[shadow wind]

Moon looks good there

[sudden remnant]

yeah would take too much investment

[rustic mountain]

no thats rillaboom, kyogre, zacian and chien pao

[shadow wind]

So Groudon Miraidon Volc is awesome but I just can't decide on the sets

[rustic mountain]

heres the sauce ||you drop groudon||

[shadow wind]

Can't

Part of the contract

[rustic mountain]

[dense latch]

any time conner opens the teambuilder groudon is immediately placed in the first slot

[rustic mountain]

cant wait till groudon isnt allowed in any formats for a year +

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-spongebob-spongebob-meme-patrick-meme-dumb-patrick-gif-9974665538168463324

[shadow wind]

😔

[molten oasis]

POV me

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[shadow wind]

Anyway back to my problem

[molten oasis]

Hmmm, lando or do I need shifu?

[dense latch]

just under three days left

[rustic mountain]

on the real tho, if u add moon ur an urshifu away from basically being the only day 2 zacian worlds team (shroom over rilla i think)

[rustic mountain]

me wen we get no champion news

[shadow wind]

Miraidon and Volc both can help Groudon with his special defence problem

[molten oasis]

I realized that

But also generally, Zac and Kyogre just like pao moon shifu a lot lol

[sudden remnant]

so thoughts on my team chat

[shadow wind]

Quiver dance has worked amazingly in the past for me but then I feel like I'm sacrificing my easy CIR answer

[rustic mountain]

a bit dark dude damn

[shadow wind]

Eseed Volc is also amazing into things like Zama Pao and just general fire power

But Eseed Volc + Scarf Miraidon feels a bit weird?

Maybe it's the play though

https://pokepast.es/77f6d7b7ce84bdce

[dense latch]

i thought it being kermit would help maybe not the best gif in hindsight lol

[shadow wind]

But if I go eseed Volc Farig gets kinda shafted

[dull haven]

@dense latch Please do not post gifs like that as this is a family friendly server

[dense latch]

won't happen again sorry about that

[rustic mountain]

u go grassy seed volc to combat the rillas

[shadow wind]

Ah heck nah

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Volc just doesn't combine well with Farig

Cause if I want Volc and Farig on the same team it's support volc and then both want eseed

[molten oasis]

Hm, guess im using the worlds team

[shadow wind]

What else can Volc comfortably run

[dense latch]

rocky?

[shadow wind]

Seems like the best option

[dense latch]

and you give incin something different

[shadow wind]

That or cloak I guess

[shadow wind]

Incin exploded into a billion pieces

Changed the tean quite a lot

[dense latch]

it was cir mirai but iirc dillon ran rocky volc and eseed farig

[shadow wind]

I mean I could see it working

[dense latch]

but do you need farig or not is the question

[shadow wind]

Just run wisp and it's fine

[molten oasis]

Was kinda hoping I didn’t end up here but I realized I had no tr mu so, here we are https://pokepast.es/ab67275e42d3be5f

[shadow wind]

Farig is so essential for Groudon on this team

So many MUs get solved by clicking tr

Also hands being and option then is super huge

[dense latch]

true

[shadow wind]

Do I need icy wind if I'm using scarf Miraidon is the question

I mean icy wind is never bad

[dense latch]

what's the team looking like right now?

how hard did you reset

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/c5de895815a4ce1b

Probably will be bulk up Don

It's either bulk up or helping hand

My original thought was specs Flutter but that feels kinda bad here

[rustic mountain]

specs flutter bad?

🤨

[shadow wind]

In this team comp yeah

[rustic mountain]

oh right cuz ur running groudon

[shadow wind]

But also it could be the play

Helping hand specs flutter seems funny

[dense latch]

i mean sash 252 252 flutter still deals decent damage

[shadow wind]

I ran it before but that was Reg G

[rustic mountain]

i think if u add like ogerpon or something

[shadow wind]

Ogerpon and Volc can't coincide

[rustic mountain]

sash also as erik mentioned

[shadow wind]

Sash is what I have in the builder currently

Feels like Farig and Volc do a lot of the same things

But maybe that isn't a bad thing

https://pokepast.es/d0f40d94ef60429c

Hmm

[rustic mountain]

they actually do almost none of the same things

outside potential speed control

[shadow wind]

I guess I'm being blinded by tera water

Sit on the field being annoying

But that's very broad

[rustic mountain]

yea

idk team seems ok

not like u hav bad mons

[shadow wind]

Yeah I mean these 6 in any config will probably perform

[rustic mountain]

just seems the damage is eh

[shadow wind]

I know

Always the problem I have with these kinds of teams

[rustic mountain]

hav u tried csr groudon

[shadow wind]

I did for a little bit but didn't enjoy it very much

[rustic mountain]

too good?

[shadow wind]

Nah CSR was just very frail

But that's just me being unfamiliar

[rustic mountain]

well yea its a frail mon relative to other restricteds, it also does absurd damage and can snowball

[shadow wind]

I could go for supportive CSR?

[rustic mountain]

i like sash onnit personally

[shadow wind]

Wisp + Groudon seems good into a lot of physical threats

[rustic mountain]

not where i was goin w/ that lol

[shadow wind]

Yeah wait that's literally the opposite of what that suggestion was supposed to be

[rustic mountain]

i think u go csr and get like solid sun abusers like bolt and support pieces like ogerpon (for cir mu)

or incin

issue w/ groudon is a lot of sun abusers stack some kinda weakness w/ him

but koraidon also has that to a degree too

[shadow wind]

It's cause there's like 2 good fire types

[rustic mountain]

gouging groudon gaming time

triple g

[shadow wind]

Holy moly

Lot of g

[dense latch]

gouging groudon gaming galore

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[bold geode]

What happened

[shadow wind]

So Groudon Gouging CSR

Seems decent actually

Now would dkiss CSR be throwing?

[foggy lodge]

what are y'all talking about

[shadow wind]

Well I'm having a team building crisis

[rustic mountain]

think best to just move on from it 🫡

[dense latch]

groudon gaming

[rustic mountain]

what else is new

[shadow wind]

😔

Wait Rillaboom can finally be back on the team

It's been 8 billion years

[rustic mountain]

yooo game luck just came in clutch needed a psychic or fairy 3 alpha 3 sandwich for ralts line and got it first attempt

[foggy lodge]

damn

[rustic mountain]

ive spent so much time on donuts in this dumb dlc

[foggy lodge]

good shit

[shadow wind]

Or do I go pao

What does Calyrex like

[rustic mountain]

just have 3 shiny alpha megas left (for now) golisopod, gardevoir and crambominable. have the donuts for all of em

[shadow wind]

I am unfamiliar with this guys game

[rustic mountain]

csr?

[shadow wind]

Yea

[rustic mountain]

sash and protection

fake out bros, redirection

some ppl go life orb

[shadow wind]

Lorb seems greedy

[rustic mountain]

if ur good u can position it well, i just like sashs safety net

[shadow wind]

Valid

https://pokepast.es/0a51c2d55abbe1ae

[rustic mountain]

i used life orb spectrier and csr a decent amount in swsh days

[shadow wind]

This is like the first time my mind is blanking on who to add

I just have no clue what this guy wants

Redirection would be nice

So maybe something like rock pon

[foggy lodge]

Clefairy

[dense latch]

that sounds decent

what's gouging fire's moveset gonan be

[shadow wind]

Great question

Breaking swipe, Howl, Snarl, Bulwark, Crash, Blitz

All good options

I think snarl 100% makes it

Wait rockpon makes 3 ice weaks

Not the biggest fan

[rustic mountain]

big fan time

[shadow wind]

That sure is a big fan

Chi yu seems good

[bold geode]

Sash Tera Ghost or Life Orb Tera Dark with good amount of support
Also wanna position it well

Lorb is not greedy btw, that shit slaps like a fucking truck especially with a Nasty Plot/HH boost, just gotta be more careful around your threats

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/9663980009331e4d

Now just a 6th

I have literally 0 speed control

[bold geode]

This looks wrong for some reason

[shadow wind]

I agree

Feels like a Volc angle?

Replace Chi yu and get a QD volc in there maybe

https://pokepast.es/16aaabb78930cb53

I had this team in Reg I 1

Gonna try it again just to see how it functions

Seems very terrible

I might be too Miraidon pilled to play CSR

Lowkey brings a tear to my eye

Love when my Groudon lives lorb hh astral

Well now that's not fair

Alright today was a failure with teambuilding but tomorrow will be stronger

[sudden remnant]

nah thats just crazy unlucky

[shadow wind]

Eh it’s not that bad I just thought it was funny

Odds are the Draco didn’t kill and my Pblade missing whims means I missed out on like 27% or something

There was like a million better more consistent plays but I was pretty done with vgc for the night so I played it sloppy

[sudden remnant]

groudon lives a mirai draco?

[shadow wind]

I’m not specs so some sets do yeah

My Groudon set lives non specs Draco’s

[sudden remnant]

wild

[shadow wind]

I mean it’s not that insane

My set is insane but it doesn’t need that much bulk

Also I think my layout for tomorrow is making Whims work with Groudon Miraidon

Shouldn’t be that difficult but I need to figure it out

Or maybe Grimmsnarl

Wait Grimmsnarl + Volc sounds so much better than Whims

Man I love vgc

[sudden remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-flightreacts-sus-flightreacts-surprised-whoa-whoa-whoa-hey-hey-hey-gif-15239857464362134427

why my cotton ball catching strays

[shadow wind]

Eh it’s weak to ice and doesn’t give much support when Grimmsnarl and Volc handle all the damage control a team could ever need

[sudden remnant]

it learns both screens tho

[shadow wind]

Noticing a distinct lack of reflect

[sudden remnant]

bro whim doesnt learn reflect? GAME FREAK PUT THE FRIES IN THE FUCKING BAG

[solid frigate]

THATS WHAT I AM SAYING

[dull ibex]

volc?

[solid frigate]

Support Volc is a thing

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/dawn-gif-23933434

[leaden fox]

Still surprising that Pokemon Day is only two days away xP

[dull ibex]

neat

[warm estuary]

https://youtube.com/shorts/CyMkkRslZ8I?si=75HicVfvE5AvTANM

[forest arrow]

2 DAYS!!!

https://tenor.com/view/tekashi-69-fade-out-peace-gif-15141419

[foggy lodge]

https://youtu.be/QthgImlo5Ew?si=L6pzkcGEe-d-0Vzz

https://x.com/playpokemon/status/2026719124445880438?s=20

Play! Pokémon (@playpokemon)

We're returning to Washington for the first time in nearly 10 years for the 2026 Seattle Regional Championships! Check out your casters for this exciting weekend ⬇️

X · Feb 25, 2026, 6:01 PM

[stone trellis]

Brother WHOSE Miraidon are you calcing against 💀

[forest arrow]

Scott Len and Yuki let’s go

[sudden remnant]

yours

or the old one

lmao

[stone trellis]

Mine is 108 Modest.

Not 220 flat.

[sudden remnant]

it was on the ots i have

i used the info i had available

[rustic mountain]

almost 10 years to not host a regional in a major na city is wild

[sudden remnant]

orlando?

[stone trellis]

Seattle.

Orlando last happened in 2024, which was only 2 years ago.

[shadow wind]

Gholdengo is just ultra mid in Reg I isn't he

Was thinking an E seed set but it might just be trash

[stone trellis]

Yeah.

Gets railed by Lando, CSR, Miraidon, Incin, Koraidon, Lunala, etc.

[shadow wind]

Trying to figure out a good eseed mon

I guess it could be volc

But I was planning on doing a qd volc

[solid frigate]

Could you slot a Fari

[shadow wind]

Farig wouldn't be doing too much on the team

https://pokepast.es/3996939189e88605

Started off so strong with the first 4 then fell off a cliff

Please Groudon

Honestly missing twice in a row like this hurts more than a double miss

[upper zealot]

where’s new york 💔

it would probably cost them a lot but so many people live there so theyd make it back

[shadow wind]

Bruh

[foggy lodge]

Since when did this chat move to a competitive section

I just noticed

[shadow wind]

Yeah just saw that too

[foggy lodge]

But its cool

What do we do when champions releases if there's a champions exclusive chat?

[tranquil kraken]

might rename the channel to be something else champions related, or i just delete that channel and we keep this one

kinda depends on what news we get and what the comp helpers decide is best!

[bold geode]

Yeah we getting shit ready chat