Yknow what I actually decide I hate walking wake
#competitive_discussion
shadow wind
It ain't even a bulky one š
244 SpA Life Orb Walking Wake Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 244 HP / 180 SpD Assault Vest Rillaboom in Sun: 153-182 (74.2 - 88.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
Ah heck nah
This is why tera fire exists
So when are one of the people in here that keep showing these Reg I teams going to post some results
I feel like a chud when I'm the only one posting results
foggy lodge
Uhhh idk
shadow wind
I don't even know where that form is anymore
I submitted once to it and got a shared spot
dense latch
do /rfaq totw
shadow wind
Just in showdown?
dense latch
yea
shadow wind
Fire
dense latch
i submitted an iron jugulis cir team once
shadow wind
I remember seeing a team you submitted
dense latch
my friend and i had already dropped it by the time it got featured š
we were trying roaring moon cir and gave up on it then it won san antonio like two weeks later
shadow wind
Mine was the Reg G team I made that hit 7th
And then Maya one upped me immediately
Maya was just too good
dense latch
weird
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/vgc-teams-of-the-week-accepting-regulation-f-and-i.3727451/ here it is
shadow wind
Was about to ask if that was it
shadow wind
I guess I should make a name for the team
shadow wind
Yeah don't share how I had a shared week š
Seawolfmikess I know you're Canadian so I can't even be mad
dense latch
tbf there were usually two teams more often than not
seawolfmikess is cracked at the game
shadow wind
Actually yeah looking at the list it's true
foggy lodge
Erik when champions releases we have to build something together to get super high on ladder
Showdown or cart whatever
dense latch
im down
foggy lodge
I prefer cart
shadow wind
Aw man I gotta glaze my own team??
dense latch
they seem to have stopped doing the little write ups this month
shadow wind
Man
dense latch
it was cool to see someone give their thoughts on the strengths of that team
shadow wind
"I love Groudon"
dense latch
i had so much fun with cir eleki lando in reg g
foggy lodge
Broken core
dense latch
boltbeam and ground ice coverage
foggy lodge
About the uhh wake set?
dense latch
"this team has two great strengths" like thank you!! that is very nice of you mr totw
foggy lodge
Ngl you are the first to make that wake set seem good
shadow wind
Cause the team is so weak to tera grass Zama that it seems to put on a masterclass every time
shadow wind
"this team has two great strengths" like thank you!! that is very nice of you mr...
"Overall, this sun team has many powerful offensive pieces that synergize well."
I thought so too !
foggy lodge
LMAO
shadow wind
Dang that was miracle seed Rillaboom
foggy lodge
Idt I've ever made a team without stealing 80% off from another team
dense latch
my team was 50% of navjit's worlds team
dense latch
i spent the entirety of reg g finding strong mons to finish off that core
i tried chi yu for a bit
shadow wind
Chi yu is a fraud
I know he won worlds but man that fish sucks
Bro misses every time
dense latch
i based it off an euic seniors team that did well
shadow wind
I probably cooked
foggy lodge
Every chance I get I will slander Kilowattrel and Alolan Ninetales
foggy lodge
i based it off an euic seniors team that did well
I love cloak chi yu
It's so good into the fake out loop + csr
foggy lodge
I forget how good leech seed cir feels when there's no Incin on the opponent's team
waxen dock
"this team has two great strengths" like thank you!! that is very nice of you mr...
Mr totw š
shadow wind
John totw
dense latch
john vgc
shadow wind
3 teams š„
Hol up
"Maybe my Groudon addiction is getting out of hand..."
So we're wearing my culture as a halloween costume now
foggy lodge
Lol
shadow wind
Real funny
I wish they showed what the team got
Like accomplishment wise
Cause it was a requirement in the form
It's funny that I submitted that team even though I made that like months ago
Anyway back to spectating these kinds of games
molten oasis
shadow wind
Drago you play any Reg I?
molten oasis
Drago you play any Reg I?
Iām about to rn
shadow wind
Fire
dense latch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regi-2546011307 low ladder is fun
i appreciate the encore
molten oasis
G1 is a fucking volcarona IDBP zama team with rilla
shadow wind
I'm slowly converting people into Reg I players again
molten oasis
COOL man, COOL
shadow wind
Please send the game š
I'm desperate for good gameplay in Reg I
Wait can you just do /invite ?
I need one of you guys to get to 1600 so that we can slowly take over the top 50
molten oasis
Please send the game š
I didnāt save it sorry
shadow wind
Nah I mean the lobby while it's goin on
molten oasis
Legit got steam rolled tho that mu was awful
dense latch
i climbed a bit in one of my alts but i have way too many
so now idk which one it was
shadow wind
Go on the main
Make a statement
Let everyone know who they're actually going against
Although I do kinda wish I used a funny alt
dense latch
all my alts are just eriksp + a number anyways
shadow wind
Mine are Groudon variants
Most anyway
One is MisschaGotcha when I was a Sinistcha guy
molten oasis
Once I get my team on my tablet Iāll send you a current match
shadow wind
Hooray
shadow wind
+58 is gnarly
shadow wind
gg go next I guess
molten oasis
Guys wrong format
dense latch
i found the alt
molten oasis
Bruh
dense latch
i left it at 16-2 after i failed an 80% gxe
shadow wind
Can still hit it !!
dense latch
maybe
molten oasis
Brother clicked fake out, why
shadow wind
That ursa was NOT brave
dense latch
would be nice if i stopped facing hard tr
molten oasis
Fr
shadow wind
So true
molten oasis
Zama CSR HO, okay
shadow wind
Wait Erik you playin?
dense latch
yea
shadow wind
Should invite me
shadow wind
Goat
molten oasis
I lost to Tera ground CSR
molten oasis
NOT AGAIN
molten oasis
STOP PAIRING ME INTO TERA GROUND CALYREX
shadow wind
Bro had that brave Hitmontop
shadow wind
Never fake out the fake out mon
molten oasis
Nah I lost
shadow wind
Rip
molten oasis
shadow wind
Erik you're cooking
dense latch
im gonna hard read
shadow wind
Wait you're in a game?
dense latch
just sent u the invite
shadow wind
Goat
molten oasis
I donāt want free wins I learn nothing from these
dense latch
if i draco i just win :(
shadow wind
Yes !
dense latch
damn i forgot this was av mirai
shadow wind
What I hate about this team so much
Hold up
Grimmsnarl = AV
Whims = Specs
Usually
shadow wind
Nah they just got every 50/50 right
dense latch
bc they can just do what this guy does
shadow wind
It's one of the worst for me too
You're still in it for sure
Man that is a fat Lunala
dense latch
i had it if that kod
shadow wind
Yeah cause it seems like you were faster for sure
molten oasis
Are you seriously running surf Palkia dude
dense latch
tho mirai might ko then
shadow wind
Hmm it's AV I wouldn't be so sure
dense latch
roll i think
molten oasis
THE DNITE HAS ENCORE???
shadow wind
I know mine doesn't do that much
dense latch
wait nah
molten oasis
dense latch
i would've won
shadow wind
Yeah
dense latch
i wish there was bo3
shadow wind
Me too !
dense latch
cts is a pain
molten oasis
cts is a pain
Tell me about it
shadow wind
Drago could you invite me to the next game
molten oasis
shadow wind
W lobby guys
shadow wind
Jeez Koraidon is neutered out of sun
shadow wind
They might not be sash
molten oasis
Probably needed tr
shadow wind
Bet it still kills with Headlong
shadow wind
252+ Atk burned Ursaluna Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 52 Def Neutralizing Gas Weezing-Galar: 97-115 (56.3 - 66.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I take it back
molten oasis
I was gonna bblade into korai
dense latch
you basically get one turn of ursa that they can just stall w protect
shadow wind
Yeah
Hurts to not watch from the Groudon side š
But I cheer my friends on
That eruption was dealing like 32
Odds are tera grass Ho oh
molten oasis
You have encore
shadow wind
Ah heck nah
molten oasis
Awesome
molten oasis
Yay I won lol
shadow wind
Bro you just made his w-l go to 7-25
molten oasis
surprised ur not a fan since its a niche mon
Weezingās common enough to make me struggle a lot, so
shadow wind
Why do all the bad low elo guys gotta be Groudoning it up š
molten oasis
rustic mountain
as annoying as weezing is, its cool
rustic mountain
weezing isnt cool wen its w/ dozogiri but thats cuz dozogiri is unbased af
molten oasis
Epic read
shadow wind
W read
rustic mountain
but otherwise its an interesting way to play the game
rustic mountain
2-2-2 is very lame tbf
molten oasis
This sini dude
shadow wind
Yeah no spread with it is a big issue
rustic mountain
sinis cool too
shadow wind
Drago is getting tortured by Sinistcha next to non tera'd terapagos
molten oasis
Wide guard was useless.
Well I had to call wide guard which was like āobviously heās gonna Teraā
He dint
molten oasis
Gg
shadow wind
Snarl gaming?
molten oasis
This sucks dude
shadow wind
Oh my goodness I just about queued up a game after closing yours
That muscle memory is strong
shadow wind
Unfortunately
molten oasis
Do nothing die gg shake my hand
shadow wind
Thoughts on taunt over encore?
It's a more aggressive answer
It is generally worse but can help against redirection which your restricteds do struggle against
molten oasis
And then game that I win is one where my opponent plays, very poorly
Idk if the Ursa mode is good
Idk I need more time with the team rn
I lost in a game I won like every other time if I just didnāt overthink my turn so bad
I need pao lando is a problem
shadow wind
Pao Lando are very very good
shadow wind
Can never be too prepared
shadow wind
I feel like Iām going to keep playing Reg I until champions gets announced
Maybe even released
I think I just really enjoy Reg I
rustic mountain
they did groudon justice in the dlc fight it was cool
shadow wind
Epic
rustic mountain
also its good in lza comp
shadow wind
As he should be
Reg I at this point is a comfort Reg
Which is weird because itās kinda really hard
molten oasis
Iām doing better
molten oasis
Guys this Ursa mode doesnāt work lol
shadow wind
How often are you leading Miraidon Farig
molten oasis
A lot.
shadow wind
I feel like you need to play Zac very similar to how you would play Groudon
Want it to be the last thing coming out onto the field
Also I think you desperate need icy wind on the team
CSR just gets to hit you for free no matter what
molten oasis
Want it to be the last thing coming out onto the field
Thatās what I do
And thatās why I like scarf Mirai
shadow wind
Maybe you get Pao back on the team
Gives some nice prio and is a good partner for Zac
Could even go icy wind
molten oasis
sigh
I went 11-9 thatās embarrassing
https://pokepast.es/fc4feb188801cf77 taking a break, trying this tomorrow
solid frigate
Confused Pory2
warm estuary
Is Tinkaton still viable?
Not really
vivid jungle
Not really
Well that sucks
warm estuary
Pokemon day is in 3 days
So that means Pokemon champions realese date is in 3 days
#not cope
shadow wind
Hopefully no more sv ever again
As much as I enjoyed it itās been around a little too long
leaden fox
Honestly hoping Champions is sooner than later š We've nearly had an extra year of competitive ScarVio after all xP
rustic mountain
were all hoping for that
leaden fox
Same here
shadow wind
Although Reg I has been pretty fun
Might be down for another year Reg I
Whoās with me?
sudden remnant
what marks can i get for a pokemon ive already caught
i wanna have my shiny fluttermane have a mark
shadow wind
Effort one for 510 evs
sudden remnant
and my ogerpon already has the friendship one from the lady in cascoraffa however its spelt
next stump
you can get treasure hunter
sudden remnant
Effort one for 510 evs
so train it and then redo 2 of the points? š
shadow wind
Does treasure hunter actually exist?
Or just use 2 feathers or something
Cause you can only use 508 evs
sudden remnant
yeah thsts why i said redo 2 of the points
with like 2 berries and then 2 feathers
sudden remnant
Berries remove 10
even better 1 berry and then 1 vitamin
shadow wind
So just use 2 random feathers that arenāt on maxed stats
You might even have all 510 evs used
sudden remnant
or i can get the gourmet if i keep buying sandwiches from
random shops
3/101 chance isnt high odds but eh i have money to spare
stone trellis
@sudden remnant wants to build a team to counter mine, please help him.
sudden remnant
They know I was talking to them yesterday about it
stone trellis
Still got nothing?
sudden remnant
no, the bike doesnāt learn meteor being
shadow wind
Wait Paul could you send your team?
sudden remnant
pretty sure its in rental teams just cirs tera type is fire now right?
shadow wind
Alright give me like 10 minutes
sudden remnant
Alright give me like 10 minutes
he told me cirs tera type should now be water and valiant has taunt instead of feint
shadow wind
Alright good to know
sudden remnant
wait chat i got a um start to a team idea
shadow wind
Share it
sudden remnant
it does involve copying him a bit but mirai valiant ogerpon
specs mirai not scarf
shadow wind
I like specs Mirai but I truly think valiant is dog water
sudden remnant
i have reasons
molten oasis
We learned valiant sucks last night LOL
stone trellis
I like specs Mirai but I truly think valiant is dog water
Yeah, my team might be the only one that could get it to work.
sudden remnant
also thinking maybe my raichu
molten oasis
I could barely get out of 1100ās, that was rough
stone trellis
That's purely a skill issue.
molten oasis
That's purely a skill issue.
It was a team issue dude, it was not me
sudden remnant
molten oasis
Iāve done significantly better with other variants of Zac Mirai teams, Valiant aināt it
stone trellis
Then just try using PTFK, I guess.
sudden remnant
my issue with cir is how slow it is
molten oasis
That and the Ursa tr mode aināt great with 2 super fast restricteds
sudden remnant
i very much enjoy hitting fast and hitting hard
molten oasis
It had issues, played 20 games, definitely got got a few times by Tera ground stuff tho so rhat didnāt feel great
sudden remnant
you couldnt pay me to use csr
shadow wind
Alright gg go next then
sudden remnant
i am feeling the zama tho
leaden fox
I don't want to have RegI for another year š¤£
sudden remnant
mirai zama works right?
shadow wind
Yeah
Reason I'm suggesting CSR is because Miraidon vs Miraidon when one is AV the AV one almost always wins
molten oasis
mirai zama works right?
Yes very
stone trellis
Lando fodder.
molten oasis
Thatās, I think thatās the only other good zama partner?
shadow wind
Wait this isn't Mirai Zama
molten oasis
Idt kyogre got very popular with it
molten oasis
Lando fodder.
And thatās why those teams run chien pao
shadow wind
Bro thinks this a 1v1 or somethin
shadow wind
Get that off my screen
foggy lodge
I lowkey hate Miraidon + Rilla
stone trellis
I don't, it's like finding a golden SCAR.
sudden remnant
https://pokepast.es/b719f36a9d7ed752
grass ogerpon is wild
shadow wind
I lowkey hate Miraidon + Rilla
Me too
And that one Lunala Miraidon Rilla team always clowns on me
sudden remnant
i dont have the piloting for double terrains lmao
stone trellis
You shouldn't try using the monkey anyway.
foggy lodge
And that one Lunala Miraidon Rilla team always clowns on me
The Calm mind Lunala one?
shadow wind
Yup
stone trellis
It just gets fodderised by Hearthflame, Ice Rider and Landorus.
So you're better off keeping it out of the team.
foggy lodge
These are gonna be the longest 3 days ever
molten oasis
Fr
shadow wind
Bro's trying his hardest to not play against Rilla š
sudden remnant
You shouldn't try using the monkey anyway.
you know i hate rilla even more than cringecat so no need to worry
stone trellis
Why?
molten oasis
Do you hate everything good?
sudden remnant
no
stone trellis
Yeah.
shadow wind
Bro wants to use sub 1% usage mons
sudden remnant
i like mirai
stone trellis
He does.
stone trellis
i like mirai
Who doesn't though?
sudden remnant
i like korai i like pao i like ogerpon i like whim
i dont mind urshifu, i like UBM but not base
molten oasis
So you hate fake out ok
molten oasis
Nobody uses either of those mons
sudden remnant
(i use raichu religiously)
molten oasis
Sneasler is simply outclassed by urshifu and raichu is very niche
foggy lodge
Sneasler has uses in reg I
stone trellis
Him not liking the main Fake Out users is such a plus for me because I no longer need to care about turn 1 plays.
molten oasis
Sneasler has uses in reg I
At like, the beginning
foggy lodge
No it top cut worlds
sudden remnant
i could use electric seed sneasler
molten oasis
Did it?
foggy lodge
Yes with Ditto
molten oasis
I only remember the korai teams from worlds, been a bit
shadow wind
sudden remnant
i could use electric seed sneasler
thoughts?
molten oasis
That was how youād use sneasler
foggy lodge
shadow wind
No low sweep is throwing
molten oasis
That team still ran shifu lol
stone trellis
Lando victim.
shadow wind
And bug incin for stab u turn !
foggy lodge
Why is it los kick Sneasler btw
molten oasis
I assume it was just stuff for CSR
foggy lodge
Like I get that you don't drop defenses
molten oasis
fast throat chop and dire claw proc fishing I guess
sudden remnant
and actually rai would have a niche into the mirai mirror
foggy lodge
But its still a Sneasler does it take much damage from losing the def boost
stone trellis
and actually rai would have a niche into the mirai mirror
Landorus victim again.
shadow wind
fast throat chop and dire claw proc fishing I guess
Dire claw fishing on a Mirai team is trolling
shadow wind
Landorus victim again.
Bro quit the glaze š
molten oasis
What else does that Mon do?
shadow wind
Ground is one of the greatest offensive types ever
stone trellis
Bro quit the glaze š
It quite literally can't do anything to Landorus though.
sudden remnant
Landorus victim again.
raichu gets surf in gen 9
molten oasis
Sneasler just be like that, be faster than everything and sleep you through dire claw
stone trellis
~~raichu gets surf in gen 9~~
Wide Guard/Spirit Break:
shadow wind
Sneasler just be like that, be faster than everything and sleep you through dire...
E terrain
molten oasis
The paraās are bad too
stone trellis
Point being, Raichu is NOT a good option into my team.
sudden remnant
it walls your mirai into clicking discharge
shadow wind
Yeah probably not
stone trellis
it walls your mirai into clicking discharge
Does it now?
Oh, it would be such a big problem if I cared.
molten oasis
shadow wind
Bros just toxic at this point
sudden remnant
Bros just toxic at this point
HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN
molten oasis
Are you trying to counterbuild or smth?
sudden remnant
Yes
shadow wind
Well if one person is offering their ots first why not
stone trellis
My shit talking is specifically to anger him so he performs better.
shadow wind
Sure
foggy lodge
Put Lunala next to Ursaluna and you crack it
shadow wind
That's what I was thinking
molten oasis
Zama CSR? Ok Mirai Ursa Luna a incin there ya go
shadow wind
But I didn't just want to copy Milwaukee
sudden remnant
Zama CSR? Ok Mirai Ursa Luna a incin there ya go
what?
foggy lodge
Or the Giovanni's team
shadow wind
That one isn't great into Miraidon CIR
foggy lodge
Its playable with Flutter Chi-Yu
shadow wind
Brute bonnet just doesn't do anything good really
sudden remnant
no???
sudden remnant
mirai cir
molten oasis
ah ok same thing 
shadow wind
I thought i saw zama CSR
The Zama CSR team was the counter team I made
foggy lodge
No volt switch Miraidon,,,
molten oasis
The Zama CSR team was the counter team I made
Oh my bad
stone trellis
CSR-Zama + Rilla is my worst MU by far, anything that has that is going to make my life suck unless the user is literally braindead.
shadow wind
I be knowing my mus
stone trellis
And yeah, it's always been lame and cringe.
shadow wind
Guy who is using CIR
molten oasis
Lmao
stone trellis
Everyone on ladder last week.
shadow wind
Nothing is actually lame guys
Fun fact they're all lines of code and maybe people are just projecting with their poor performances and don't want to have no excuses !
sudden remnant
paul uses cir and i climbed pretty high in cart ladder with the unedited version of his team
stone trellis
Fun fact they're all lines of code and maybe people are just projecting with the...
No, I just dislike how CSR plays and everything about that playstyle is all.
sudden remnant
i hate how much effort it takes to keep csr alive
sudden remnant
and never will
tiny karmaBOT
stone trellis
and never will
So don't comment on it like you know anything.
shadow wind
Definition of a fair and balanced mon
sudden remnant
i do i tried csr in i think reg G and hated it
molten oasis
Maybe I could do a scarf Mirai with valiant, and creep the valiant so I can volt switch into zacian and click coaching
molten oasis
i do i tried csr in i think reg G and hated it
I donāt like the guy either BUT itās a strong Mon
shadow wind
I kind of do that with my Mirai and Wake
But not really cause my Mirai is slower than my wake anyway
But volt switch into sun into weather ball is always funny
sudden remnant
someone calc sa specs midai flash cannon into a non tera cir please
shadow wind
Brodie
stone trellis
I donāt like the guy either BUT itās a strong Mon
CSR is undeniably top 2-3, but it just ain't for me at all.
shadow wind
Lets do some math
molten oasis
Fs
stone trellis
someone calc sa specs midai flash cannon into a non tera cir please
Unironically does less than EDrift.
molten oasis
I like the electric bike
foggy lodge
Electro drift does more damage xd
shadow wind
E drift is 130 bp in terrain + stab is x 1.5 is 195
Flash cannon is 80 and with the super effective is 160
sudden remnant
Unironically does less than EDrift.
just humor me
foggy lodge
80 X 2 VS 100 X 1.5 + X1.3
stone trellis
160 VS 195 is quite a big difference.
foggy lodge
When we thought CSR was Vex's worst enemy math appeared
molten oasis
No stab is what ruins that calc
stone trellis
Means you'll barely do 80%.
shadow wind
Without terrain flash cannon does more
stone trellis
Just the Specs and HE boost, which applies to all special moves anyway.
shadow wind
I don't know if there's much point in trying to out Miraidon an AV Miraidon
AV Miraidon counters all Miraidons
stone trellis
Mine also has the super nice side effect of fishing for ragebait.
molten oasis
I like scarf, personally
shadow wind
Scarf is great on certain teams but specs is overall bis
Specs Mirai will never be bad
molten oasis
Iāve only liked av Mirai on screens teams
sudden remnant
When we thought CSR was Vex's worst enemy math appeared
im at work bro im typing when i can i dont have time for much else rn gang
shadow wind
Iāve only liked av Mirai on screens teams
Or with Volc
Which is usually on screens anyway
molten oasis
Yep.
sudden remnant
When we thought CSR was Vex's worst enemy math appeared
and csr isnt my worst enemy pauls fucking ice rider is
shadow wind
Bros ragebaiting again
molten oasis
Both the calys are annoying but I think CSR can get out of hand a lot faster
shadow wind
CSR just needs a little less set up and it's harder to stop
Ghost is better than ice in this kind of meta
stone trellis
Them ever going for setup is usually their undoing, actually.
sudden remnant
Why would it be your worst enemy?
i can deal with the rest of your team but that cir is so fucking bulky š
shadow wind
I mean plot is awesome
molten oasis
Plot CSR is fine
stone trellis
I can smell NP plays from 30 miles away, it leaves them wide open to +1 Tera Fire Ivy Cudgel (which they never have a counter to btw).
shadow wind
I think encore/disable is more consistent though
molten oasis
i can deal with the rest of your team but that cir is so fucking bulky š
You chip it down
Thereās realistically no OHKOāing CIR
stone trellis
Point is that he really can't let it live for more than one turn.
And with my team, that's very difficult to achieve.
molten oasis
Thatās difficult in general for anyone fighting CIR lol
sudden remnant
Point is that he really can't let it live for more than one turn.
this š
shadow wind
I can smell NP plays from 30 miles away, it leaves them wide open to +1 Tera Fir...
Bros just grinds low elo š
stone trellis
Funny enough, my CIR is less bulky than the standard.
And no, I've seen mid ladder players do that.
CSR players rarely have an IQ above that of the average ape.
shadow wind
Lotta talk brodega
stone trellis
Those rare, non-moronic ones know to use Rillaboom.
Or how to play CSR in general.
stone trellis
CSR-Zama is fine, Rilla is the big problem.
Because normally, my Miraidon just eviscerates CSR and Zamazenta.
But due to Rilla, I can't have that anymore.
shadow wind
It just gets fodderised by Hearthflame, Ice Rider and Landorus.
Hmm
molten oasis
Itās more positioning of the rilla
It still hurts Mirai even with the tools to handle it
And fake out is, fake out
sudden remnant
anyways yall see my issue with this mf
stone trellis
Me or my Ice Rider?
sudden remnant
both
stone trellis
Why me?
molten oasis
I probably fell back under 1100ās kek
shadow wind
Nah decay only happens over 1400
molten oasis
Noted
sudden remnant
cuz youāre always ragebaiting me and it doesnt help any chance of confidence ill have in any fighting scenario
molten oasis
Interesting
stone trellis
cuz youāre always ragebaiting me and it doesnt help any chance of confidence ill...
I'm trying to get the opposite result.
I am trying to piss you off so you'll lock in and actually try.
molten oasis
How is that effective?
stone trellis
I don't know if it is.
sudden remnant
How is that effective?
its not
stone trellis
Dude, remember 1UK3?
sudden remnant
it does the opposite
sudden remnant
like i know im a dogshit player bro stop rubbing it in
stone trellis
No worries, I'm washed up anyway.
I'm some random has-been who got a semi-decent rating after using a half good team for months on end.
Your idea of me is much better than the actual me.
sudden remnant
uhhuh š¤Ø
sudden remnant
I'm some random has-been who got a semi-decent rating after using a half good te...
literally every opponent ever before they curb stomp you:
shadow wind
Don't worry last time Paul played someone from here he lost so maybe he has a curse of challenging people
sudden remnant
gang have you seen my replays
shadow wind
Nope
sudden remnant
i occasionally have successful plays but its rare
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/aefad4e61da2690c alr fellas how can I round this out? Iām unsure if a Fari tr mode is the right move, will have to figure out a line into korai stuff tho
shadow wind
Some of my replays look terrible too
It's what you do after the replays is what makes the difference
molten oasis
Tho that could easily be valiant and Mirai on lead
sudden remnant
and again i need to figure out how to remove that cir as fast as possible
shadow wind
https://pokepast.es/aefad4e61da2690c alr fellas how can I round this out? Iām un...
You get fried by Incin
shadow wind
When specs Miraidon + Farig ?
Ok wait I have an idea
Let me team build something real fast
molten oasis
You donāt have a zama CSR mu with specs Mirai
sudden remnant
tera water cir is a mind game and my best bet would be to hit it neutrally but neutral hits do no fucking damage to it
foggy lodge
You have but you need Lunala
stone trellis
Don't worry last time Paul played someone from here he lost so maybe he has a cu...
Last time was when I beat 1UK3 twice.
You beating me 2-1 was before that.
shadow wind
Oh I didn't hear about the other game
sudden remnant
wasnt 1UK3 the mf running lugia
stone trellis
Yes.
sudden remnant
which is literally horse food
molten oasis
I heard about that lol
sudden remnant
lugia loses to both horses
stone trellis
He was using Incineroar (absolute wrench into my team sometimes) and still lost.
molten oasis
Lugia sucks
stone trellis
His problem was that the strategy was too niche and let Ice Rider gain momentum.
molten oasis
What does Lugia even beat restricted wise?
sudden remnant
probably nothing
molten oasis
Maaaybe zama, thatās the only one that comes to mind
stone trellis
I don't know, fucking Korai?
warm estuary
Ah hell nah pls stop talking abt Lugia
sudden remnant
korai would probably still destroy it
warm estuary
I hate Lugia with all my heart
molten oasis
I don't know, fucking Korai?
Go go gadget flare blitz lol
sudden remnant
Go go gadget flare blitz lol
literally
stone trellis
Multiscale is there for a reason.
sudden remnant
Multiscale is there for a reason.
korai has a partner for a reason
stone trellis
Fair point.
stone trellis
Anyway, I've got to go to sleep soon.
molten oasis
I hope connerās cooking
sudden remnant
have a snarl bot next to korai click snarl and nuke the lugia with flare blirz
stone trellis
@sudden remnant Focus on finalising your team members and I'll do the EVs tomorrow.
sudden remnant
š
stone trellis
I promise I will not sabotage your team.
sudden remnant
HOW DO I DEAL WITH CIR š
stone trellis
Use CSR.
sudden remnant
i cant let it live more than 2 turns max before i just lose
sudden remnant
1 turn.
well if i can find a sufficient strategy to force it to protect i can stall a second turn
stone trellis
(Not ragebait)
stone trellis
well if i can find a sufficient strategy to force it to protect i can stall a se...
Mental Herb Whimsicott?
shadow wind
https://pokepast.es/d6049db93883877f @molten oasis
tiny karmaBOT
molten oasis
Is that an iron moth?
sudden remnant
pounce is goated
shadow wind
Don't ask why it's the only one with evs
It was the first set I made then realized I don't care too much about making evs for a team that you might not even like the look of
sudden remnant
omg wait i got it
molten oasis
Iāll give it a few games
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
If I could I'd also like to watch the games
Cause I'm not sure how this team will work
Also for evs I think slow Lando works
sudden remnant
literally none of these mons can help me
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
Is showdown performing poorly for anyone else right now?
tiny karmaBOT
stone trellis
What does Skitter Smack do again?
sudden remnant
What does Skitter Smack do again?
lowers attack
stone trellis
Slither doesn't learn Knock Off though, does it?
shadow wind
Doesn't look like it
sudden remnant
no
stone trellis
And you can't lower shit when Clear Amulet's in the way.
shadow wind
Trick lagging tail coming in clutch
Trick lagging tail Grimmsnarl is lowkey so gross in cts
sudden remnant
why would anyone bother tricking a lagging tail onto a mon as slow as cir
molten oasis
rustic mountain
shadow wind
Oh my goodness why aren't showdown ladders loading
rustic mountain
itll b ok
shadow wind
I'm just wanting to see if anyone wants to throw elo and make me top 10
Can't blame a guy
sudden remnant
I'm just wanting to see if anyone wants to throw elo and make me top 10
bro must spread the groudon propaganda
stone trellis
I'll do some practice matches until 2 AM so I can be prepared for Friday.
sudden remnant
practice against me is something i never thought id hear from anyone š
shadow wind
I'll do a game today no matter what but no promises on good results
stone trellis
practice against me is something i never thought id hear from anyone š
Reminder that I'm so washed, I lost 2-1 to a Groudon player.
shadow wind
I'm either hitting top 10 or going to lose it through decay or losing so in the end it doesn't matter
shadow wind
Reminder that I'm so washed, I lost 2-1 to a Groudon player.
Hey !
sudden remnant
Reminder that I'm so washed, I lost 2-1 to a Groudon player.
you mean a groudon otp
stone trellis
Hey !
Prime me was like, 80 Elo off of you and I farmed Groudon so much that I could defeat it on instinct.
I am so shit now that neither of those factors could save me.
sudden remnant
what items can valiant run besides booster
shadow wind
Prime you was 1580?
shadow wind
This Reg I or old Reg I
stone trellis
Old, obviously.
shadow wind
Well old Reg I had a lot higher elo
stone trellis
Actually, might have been J.
Which is just I but easier to farm at the very beginning.
sudden remnant
im pretty sure you were 1600 elo in I
shadow wind
Pretty much
stone trellis
My peak in I was never above 1400.
sudden remnant
my peak in general is 1300
stone trellis
I only hit my peak once I made PTFK, which was solidly a Reg J team.
shadow wind
Well prime me was 1800 in Reg H
stone trellis
Nice.
shadow wind
But it doesn't mean a lot cause it's different ladders
With different development stages
I don't even think that was top 10
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
Yeah it was 68th
Just goes to show that elo is whatever in the grand scheme of things
Also why is this the first time I was able to find my 1800 screenshot
sudden remnant
a shame slither wing doesnt learn knock off
valiant does but that doesnt actually help me
i have other plans for valiant
i want my other restricted to not be weak to ice and preferably be physical
which narrows my options incredibly
leaves me with just hooh and the doggos right?
did i miss any?
oh and cir too
chat is hooh the play
molten oasis
With what, miraidon?
sudden remnant
ye
molten oasis
Ho-oh with Mirai is fine
solid frigate
Clear amulet
sudden remnant
he doesnt have an incin so i dont need to worry about that
and his lando is incarnate form
solid frigate
Itās a target team
sudden remnant
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regi-2546473660-1097maqgnholfa1jm9...
why didnt they psychic fangs the valiant
rule 1 of cir valiant: remove the valiant
stone trellis
stone trellis
rule 1 of cir valiant: remove the valiant
They didn't know.
Oh yeah, rule #2: Never let Landorus survive until an endgame where neither opponent has a super effective move available.
solid frigate
I legit changed my Lando to Tera Steel and use that for the rest of SV
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
hm
its physical bulk leaves a bit to be desired but ill figure it out
electric is resisted by electric grass and dragon right?
solid frigate
its physical bulk leaves a bit to be desired but ill figure it out
Physical Bulk is fine
sudden remnant
Physical Bulk is fine
considering what i need it to fight idk if its enough
has hooh ever ran cloak
yes but not often
sudden remnant
So I have learnt I just can't beat Terapagos
you mean the turtle of doom and bulk
that thing looks cute but its a devil directly descended from satan himself
and also the only viable hyper beam user apparently
tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
boooooo
tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
So there was a terapagos takeover apparently
I dropped like 200 elo
So maybe that's the ending of Reg I for me?
Fun while it lasted but I legit queued into 4 terapagos in a row
And I could adapt but I lowkey got better things to be doing than being trapped in the prison that is high elo
sudden remnant
has miraidon ever run 100 hp
shadow wind
Like evs?
sudden remnant
yeah
shadow wind
Probably someone has at some point?
sudden remnant
his miraidon has 116 speed evs so im thinking of setting mine to 152 and idk what to do with the other 100 points
sudden remnant
speed booster in protosyhtesis and quark drive gives 1.5x speed right
foggy lodge
3 very long days
sudden remnant
so i have exactly 0 chance of outspeeding his valiant with specs mirai
forest arrow
https://x.com/michaelderbeste/status/2026325260388155787?s=12
After watching Marco play with it, I understand it now
Fire ass team no pun intended
shadow wind
Alright I've made a decision
sudden remnant
chat im cooked
shadow wind
I will be making one last Groudon team
One last Groudon team to send off SV
After this team I will never touch the teambuilder in sv again
foggy lodge
After this team I will never touch the teambuilder in sv again
Until reg I comes back cuz champions is releasing in August
sudden remnant
istg if reg I comes back again im gonna cry
rustic mountain
the worlds race just becomes who can get in game currency fast enough
shadow wind
P2W
foggy lodge
Fr
shadow wind
Give me micro transactions
rustic mountain
kinda been like that for a bit tbh
shadow wind
Real actually
sudden remnant
with all the dlc mons yeah
rustic mountain
ursa from pla, calyrex from swsh etc
sudden remnant
you can get calyrex in SV cant you?
sudden remnant
so you can get the horses but not the rabbit
rustic mountain
yep
sudden remnant
hare whatever it is
foggy lodge
Its game freak's decision
rustic mountain
gf are the developers
sudden remnant
i still blame nintendo
rustic mountain
sudden remnant
now that i have some idea how to handle cir how do i deal with his AV mirai
and his speed boosted iron valiant
would hooh with an electric seed still activate the electric seed? how do flying types interact with that
molten oasis
It still works but I wouldnāt suggest that
sudden remnant
i wasnt going to on hooh i was using it as a flying type example
does it also still work on a levitate mon?
i imagine it would if it works with flying types
mirai hooh whim valiant slither wing and im thinking maybe firepon
what types resist ice? ice water fire and steel right?
stone trellis
Incineroar.
sudden remnant
nah im good
sudden remnant
what types resist ice? ice water fire and steel right?
this was to ask if rockpon would resist which it doesnt
stone trellis
It's part Grass, it would only ever be neutral at best.
Also, why does it resisting matter? It'll always live at least one hit.
sudden remnant
i want it to live more than 1 if possible
and taking super effective damage probably makes that hard
stone trellis
i want it to live more than 1 if possible
That's not what you use Rockpon for though.
sudden remnant
which is why im not using it
molten oasis
nah im good
You are only making this harder
sudden remnant
and ill do it my way
my biggest issue is my only way to outspeed his valiant is to win the speed tie with mine
dense latch
or removing terrain
dense latch
I think charcoal is cooler for Torkoal
plates have no aura relative to the regular type boosting items
never melt ice vs icicle plate
mystic water vs splash plate
rustic mountain
sudden remnant
or removing terrain
im also using mirai+valiant i want the terrain too
stone trellis
or removing terrain
That doesn't help him at all.
Miraidon's the only one who could do significant damage to Tera Fire Ice Rider before and it'd lose 42% of the power of its Electric moves and 25% of the power of all its other moves.
dense latch
im also using mirai+valiant i want the terrain too
oh
i meant in general bc i hadnāt read what the team was
sudden remnant
mirai cir vs mirai hooh
dense latch
like in csr zama balance where you could both remove terrain, limit what cir can wide guard and what miraidon can do with rilla
sudden remnant
im not piloting double terrain š
dense latch
if youāre just looking to counter the team it doesnāt seem great to be enabling his valiant yourself
im not saying to use rilla and miraidon i did not know you were using it
sudden remnant
i have his ots and im attempting to make mine counter his
dense latch
what's the theory behind using mirai ho-oh as a counter
sudden remnant
well his cir was tera water but he changed it to fire
my plan was mirai mirror and burn cir with sacred fire but yeah
stone trellis
Oh, so I was right about believing that Ho-oh is useless after the change.
sudden remnant
its fine i have a plan b in mind
dense latch
mirai mirror feels counterintuitive that potentially forces a lot of 50s
sudden remnant
no im on plan b still
stone trellis
mirai mirror feels counterintuitive that potentially forces a lot of 50s
It actually forces a TAVW (Total Assault Vest Win).
sudden remnant
i calced it already i should be fine as long as i dont play stupid
stone trellis
You killed Mirai with Draco, now what?
sudden remnant
no
draco has nothing to do with it
cuz im not risking missing and instantly losing
stone trellis
Gleam barely 2HKOs.
sudden remnant
im aware
stone trellis
And even if it did land, you still lose long-term.
sudden remnant
i have more options still
dense latch
im just confused as to why you're still on miraidon ho-oh if the reason you built that in the first place is gone
sudden remnant
cuz idk what to use instead of hooh š
both doggos melt to a +1 HHP
and what other physical restricteds resist/take neutral from ice besides cir
dense latch
zama doesn't melt to hhp
stone trellis
Zama melts to EP anyway.
sudden remnant
it takes quite a large amount from +1 hhp
sudden remnant
Zama melts to EP anyway.
lando can go die for all i care
molten oasis
Iām succeeding today
stone trellis
lando can go die for all i care
Cope and seethe.
molten oasis
both doggos melt to a +1 HHP
Donāt let it get to +1
stone trellis
That's a tall order when he has no Fake Out users.
sudden remnant
Donāt let it get to +1
I CANT HE CAN PROTECT COACHING
stone trellis
USE A FAKE OUT POKEMON GANG
sudden remnant
i mean i can probably taunt it
dense latch
csr zama incin rilla seems strong
molten oasis
Use incin, the ultimate āmy mu sucksā Mon
dense latch
and i just saw the past messages and it's just paul telling you to run csr lol
stone trellis
He can't use three of those because of self-imposed reasons.
dense latch
well then idk
molten oasis
He can't use three of those because of self-imposed reasons.
Sucks to suck
stone trellis
And yeah, it's his only big chance at beating me without any RNG or stupid plays on my side.
molten oasis
If you want something to work you have to make sacrifices
Itās not worth it
Just use the tools you have at your disposal
sudden remnant
i tried csr before and hated it
i hated how much effort it takes to keep the stupid thing alive
sudden remnant
which im not doing cuz im not using it
stone trellis
Your loss times two, I guess.
stone trellis
Your refusal to use the only things that actually make me struggle is why you are going to lose, by the way.
Incin gets destroyed by this team, don't give him false hopes.
Rilla's the problem.
sudden remnant
im. not. using. csr. i dont care.
stone trellis
WHO THE FUCK SAID ANYTHING ABOUT CSR
sudden remnant
literally ALL OF YOU
stone trellis
Your problem is ice rider, **use incineroar**
I see a C and an R, but no S in "Incineroar".
Try it out.
We can do one practice match before the big battle if you want to.
molten oasis
Incin gets destroyed by this team, don't give him false hopes.
Heās complaining about lose to Ice Rider
Incinās still valuable for that.
Incin Mirai is also really strong
stone trellis
The problem is that I've adapted this team to the point where it shits on any and all Fire types that would threaten Ice Rider.
sudden remnant
Incinās still valuable for that.
he runs ClAm icy
stone trellis
With Coaching and Tera Fire, yes.
Oh, and redirection.
And Landorus.
See why Incineroar isn't really thriving against the horse here?
sudden remnant
wifh redirection threat
stone trellis
Tera Fire, redirection, EP...
sudden remnant
Wisp, flare blitz
lemme just pretend ogerpon doesnāt exist rq