#competitive_discussion

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molten oasis
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I wanna Zac plush but they’re super expensive

shadow wind
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Although I feel like I remember seeing a non crowned Zama once

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He's faster so it makes some sense

foggy lodge
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I saw one with grassy seed

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sudden remnant
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so there might be hope for uncrowned zacian? 🥺

foggy lodge
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But it didn't run a steel move so it was fully walled by ghost types lmfao

shadow wind
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I mean he learns snarl and howl so he's a decent support guy

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shadow wind
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No cause Crowned is 20 stats stronger and 10 stats faster

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Literally no point to ever not have crowned Zacian

sudden remnant
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😔

foggy lodge
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I remember that in smogon when Zacian got banned from OU people just started using the base form and then it also got banned lmfao

shadow wind
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Yeah

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For some reason Zama uncrowned is still in OU

rustic mountain
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soon itll have 0

shadow wind
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!!!!

rustic mountain
shadow wind
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So excited

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Groudon can finally be good again

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shadow wind
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I swear the red orb won't carry him

foggy lodge
shadow wind
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He'd be better without tera anyway

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252 SpA Flutter Mane Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Koraidon: 136-168 (77.7 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Excuse me?

foggy lodge
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Tf lmfao

shadow wind
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This is just a calc

sudden remnant
# tiny karma

whats crazy is zacian-c defensive stats arent even that bad 🫠

rustic mountain
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av korai sounds bad

shadow wind
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It doesn't sound that bad

foggy lodge
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Wait then it can survive a moonblast with some investment

shadow wind
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252 SpA Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Koraidon: 228-268 (130.2 - 153.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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I don't think so

rustic mountain
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lmao

shadow wind
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60 bp vs 95 bp

rustic mountain
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as i said av korai sounds bad

foggy lodge
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😔

shadow wind
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252 SpA Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 44 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Koraidon in Sun with an ally's Flower Gift: 148-180 (81.7 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

foggy lodge
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You kinda need protect on Koraidon

shadow wind
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Trust

sudden remnant
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a shame korai doesnt get knock off

shadow wind
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Not a shame

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"It's such a shame CIR doesn't have 200 base atk" Please no

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These mons are already way overtuned

foggy lodge
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I rememebe the banded Korai bait

shadow wind
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For sure bait

sudden remnant
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isnt lorb boost higher than band boost anyways? i could be crazy

foggy lodge
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No never

shadow wind
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1.3x is not in fact higher than 1.5x

foggy lodge
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Lorb is 30% band is 50%

rustic mountain
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band has to be higher damage, ur lockin in 1 move

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thats the trade off

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life orb, u lose some health for the damage increase but can still swap ur moves

shadow wind
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Tell that to Lando

foggy lodge
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And that's why clam Harc >>> band Harc

shadow wind
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Clam = Band IF you're -1

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Damage wise

rustic mountain
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idt thats tru

shadow wind
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If you're getting intimidated more than once and don't have set up clam is always more worth

shadow wind
rustic mountain
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band at -1 should still b slightly higher

shadow wind
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Sometimes rounded badly

rustic mountain
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really?

shadow wind
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0 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Flutter Mane in Sun: 187-220 (142.7 - 167.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

-1 0 Atk Choice Band Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Flutter Mane in Sun: 187-220 (142.7 - 167.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Just how the math works yeah

rustic mountain
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weirdge

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foggy lodge
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But anyways

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4 days for the champions release date,,,

forest arrow
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Days almost over

sudden remnant
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I really hope it’s soon

forest arrow
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You can say 3

foggy lodge
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Idk where would it release

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It either releases in march or it releases in like july

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Its or super near or super far

forest arrow
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shadowdrops Friday

foggy lodge
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Don't say that

forest arrow
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Haha my guess is March with the regulation announcement

foggy lodge
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The more we hope for the shadowdrop the less likely it releases

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Also I think with how dates are rn

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If we don't go to champions in april I think they will just announce the new regulation on the presents

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"new" because if we don't switch to champions by april it will just be a rerun

forest arrow
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another reg of sv and im done for a bit

sudden remnant
foggy lodge
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no never again

forest arrow
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no pls no

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Not a third time

foggy lodge
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Laic was condemned to play reg H two times

forest arrow
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Give us C

foggy lodge
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Reg H is my biggest enemy

sudden remnant
forest arrow
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I may consider playing if that was the case

sudden remnant
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i dont think theyd do that cuz wasnt C regional dex+the treasures

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before home compatibility

forest arrow
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Yeah no dlc moves

dense latch
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barely got through this reg f i dont think im touching another rerun

foggy lodge
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Reg C would have to either ban the DLC moves or make them available creating a new meta

forest arrow
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but come on it’s reg F

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Never was fun to begin with lol

forest arrow
sudden remnant
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genuine question why does meowscarada learn grassy terrain by level up

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what could possibly be the reason

foggy lodge
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So it can pretend its as good as Rilla

sudden remnant
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support meowscarada trust

foggy lodge
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I watched a Meowscarada miss a KO on a tera ghost SNEASLER on stream

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That's where I understood Meowscarada was a fraud

sudden remnant
foggy lodge
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No it wasn't it was 252 atk sash

sudden remnant
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Meowscarada was prime Von in regs A and B and had the fall off of the century (hey that sounds familiar almost like ….Zacian)

foggy lodge
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To say it had a fall it would have needed to have a big moment

sudden remnant
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meow was goated in the first couple Regs

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or rather flower trick specifically was what was so goated

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a move that always crits hey havent we been here before 😭

foggy lodge
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It was pretty good in reg A

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By reg B it was already eh and by reg C it totally died

sudden remnant
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i know it was so sad bro

sudden remnant
foggy lodge
next stump
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it was one of like three dondozo answers in the beginning

foggy lodge
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I like moves that have secured crits

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Yeah if Dozo exists we kinda need moves that secure crits ngl lol

next stump
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you had haze murkrow, meowscarada, and maybe like freeze dry bundle

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that's all i remember handling it decently

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amoonguss as always

sudden remnant
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and in reg H meow does uh, something, it doesnt do it well unfortunately for me

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my tera steel meow how i miss you so

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idk why i picked steel but it was to deal with smthn with tera steel tera blast

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wtf was it

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i cant remember its cooked

shadow wind
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I never got to witness Reg A

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Y'all talk about it like the glory days

sudden remnant
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it lowkey was

rustic mountain
shadow wind
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I started in F and that was for like 2 weeks then it changed to G

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Reg Groudon 🙏

rustic mountain
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wat would u do if u couldnt mention groudon for 1 day

sudden remnant
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probably evaporate

shadow wind
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I'd be fine

rustic mountain
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this would b u ^

shadow wind
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Mention doesn't mean I won't think of him

rustic mountain
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no nothing groudon related

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thinking, building a team, playing it, talkin about it

shadow wind
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Did that for like a month

rustic mountain
shadow wind
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Came back stronger

rustic mountain
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lmfao

shadow wind
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It was like middish December to middish January

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VGC just wasn't even in my mind

sudden remnant
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how did you survive before groudon was legal

foggy lodge
shadow wind
foggy lodge
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I remember my team was Incin Rilla Bolt Lando-I Wellspring Flutter

shadow wind
foggy lodge
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Condemned from the start to play balance

sudden remnant
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cant relate

shadow wind
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Could probably find it if I went on my switch

foggy lodge
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But then I became cool and started using Koraidon and Umbreon and Ditto and Venusaur and Volcarona

sudden remnant
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UMBEEEEEEEEEE

shadow wind
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Ditto is anything BUT cool

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Bro is the gimmick merchant

shadow wind
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Only under 60 in F

foggy lodge
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Ditto is one of the coolest ones

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Yeah he is cool only because he stops being Ditto and turns into something else

sudden remnant
shadow wind
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Hard disagree

foggy lodge
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But its still cool

shadow wind
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Not true

foggy lodge
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I yoink your Groudon fuck you

sudden remnant
shadow wind
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Bro wants to be a leech

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Just say you can't pick a 6th mon

foggy lodge
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You are gonna tera fire and then I'm gonna yoink your Groudon and pblade it cuz I don't miss my moves

shadow wind
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Thank goodness I have wake for this exact mu

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And a couple other ones

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Wake is the duct tape holding my team together

foggy lodge
shadow wind
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Farigiraf is begging to be on the team

foggy lodge
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Why I can just yoink the Giraffe on the mirror!!!

shadow wind
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And then they lead CSR and Incin and you are fried

foggy lodge
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The only thing that kinda sucks is that Hands is forced to use volt switch here

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But its fine cuz it adds another way of rotation for eterrain too

shadow wind
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But without Farig it means less

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Cause Rillaboom then still has fake out

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Ditto is just so inconsistent I don't think it's ever the best in slot

foggy lodge
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Yeah but the mons to solve balance here are actually Volcarona and Grimmsnarl

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I think deadass against balance you can just not pick Miraidon

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I remember doing that often

shadow wind
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😭

foggy lodge
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Playing with like Volcarona Grimmsnarl Ditto

shadow wind
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If you aren't bringing your restricted every time there's an issue

foggy lodge
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No but its only against balance

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Don't worry I got this

shadow wind
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Hmm whatever floats your boat

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I won't yuck your yum

foggy lodge
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Tho tbh I didn't build the team its Joseph Ugarte's team

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I was counting pixels of his HP bars from stream to get the EVs

shadow wind
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Crazy work

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I just make my own teams

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Cause there was always something off about the Groudon teams people used

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The only one I ever considered using was the Portland one

foggy lodge
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When I played Groudon I also stole teams😔

shadow wind
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Stole all 4 teams ever used

sudden remnant
shadow wind
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Some people need to know the evs

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Me personally? I just play with the sliders a little bit

sudden remnant
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lowkey the mf who put 67 evs in all of their ursalunas stats is the type of troll i aspire to be

shadow wind
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My ev spreads are usually so trash lowkey

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They do like 1 job

sudden remnant
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i just have paul do most of my important evs

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like the wellspring ogerpon i used in the gc

shadow wind
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Ogerpon-Hearthflame (F) @ Hearthflame Mask
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 188 HP / 76 Atk / 108 Def / 124 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Ivy Cudgel
  • Wood Hammer
  • Follow Me
  • Spiky Shield
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This is the spread I made

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I think it lives 252 modest sharp beak bleakwind

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252+ SpA Sharp Beak Tornadus Bleakwind Storm vs. 188 HP / 124 SpD Ogerpon-Hearthflame: 150-176 (83.7 - 98.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Knew it

sudden remnant
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60 hp 228 atk 28 def 4spD 188 spe

shadow wind
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What does it do?

sudden remnant
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lives

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and nukes waterfu immediately with horn leech

shadow wind
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I'm doubting the living part

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All things considered that's a pretty frail Oger

sudden remnant
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trust me it lived what I needed it to

shadow wind
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252+ SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 188 HP / 124 SpD Ogerpon-Hearthflame: 153-180 (85.4 - 100.5%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

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Dang I gotta fix my set because of this

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We are not changing anything 😭

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Infinitely lazy about changing sets nowadays

solid frigate
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Put it on HP ffs

shadow wind
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I mean if it works it works but that would also be my advice

sudden remnant
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she lived what i needed her to

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goatpon does her job wonderfully

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also my peli was not dying to jack shit lmao

foggy lodge
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I wish I could also come up with weird spreads

shadow wind
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My spreads aren't weird 😔

sudden remnant
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my peli had 252 hp 20 SpA and 236 spD

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lmao

foggy lodge
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They are cool when you use them you can win a lot of games off of living certain hits you are not supposed to live

shadow wind
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252+ SpA Mystic Water Tera Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 132 HP / 252 SpD Groudon in Sun: 156-188 (81.2 - 97.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

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Big fan that I get to live this...

sudden remnant
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in sun…. just barely

shadow wind
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My goat lives everything

sudden remnant
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🤨

shadow wind
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252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 132 HP / 252 SpD Groudon: 211-250 (109.8 - 130.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

sudden remnant
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taking 97% from a water move in sun says otherwise 😭

shadow wind
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Thanks Miraidon

foggy lodge
shadow wind
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And this is why we run snarl on scarf Miraidon !

foggy lodge
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I'm gonna yoink your scarf Miraidon and snarl you back

sudden remnant
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miraidon is an opp bro i swear

sudden remnant
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thief?

shadow wind
sudden remnant
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lmao

shadow wind
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Miraidon is Groudons strongest snarl bot

sudden remnant
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you could have ended the sentence at “miraidon is **** strongest”

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and it would still be true

shadow wind
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Didn't even win worlds last year

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So like lowkey MiraiFraudon

sudden remnant
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might be a skill issue

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or koraidon is just genuinely the sleeper bike

foggy lodge
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Ability shield Koraidon should have won

shadow wind
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What a stupid top 3

sudden remnant
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shout out to the mf that brought a totodile

shadow wind
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But looking at these teams like yeah absolutely team 1 won

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Ursaluna is messed up

strange fjord
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I like Bloodmoon Ursaluna but it's not as consistent as regular Ursaluna unfortunately.

shadow wind
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Spore victim

strange fjord
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Time to Flame Orb Bloodmoon Bear jarvis

shadow wind
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This guy knows what's up

sudden remnant
shadow wind
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So could safety goggles or follow me + goggles/vital spirit

sudden remnant
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as could misty terrain but who tf is using weezing for anything other than neutralizing gas

shadow wind
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But it's another layer that the original doesn't require

strange fjord
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I'll just run Toxic Orb instead to be force to lock in even harder.

sudden remnant
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what about a sticky barb

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not the item i meant wtf

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poison barb? AdoThink

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too much thinking for one day

strange fjord
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Poison Barb just increases damage to Poison type moves iirc

tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
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wtf am i thinking of

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nvm it doesnt matter

shadow wind
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I need to figure out how decay works

sudden remnant
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decay???

shadow wind
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Ladder decay

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If you don't play for it's like 2 days your elo goes down

foggy lodge
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To mantain the VGC addiction

shadow wind
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Of course

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I have a standard to uphold

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If I'm not top 30 on the ladder who even am I?

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The answer is that I'm still me !

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A ladder position does not define who I am !

foggy lodge
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I need to know how you survive in bo1 Connee

shadow wind
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I have fun

foggy lodge
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Once champions releases we have to join forces

sudden remnant
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i hate bo3 i dont have the skill to hide important tricks for rounds 2 and 3

shadow wind
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I don't play it cause I have to

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I just enjoy vgc

strange fjord
shadow wind
sudden remnant
shadow wind
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So you mean I have to play more than 5 games

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Aw man

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It's stressful

foggy lodge
dense latch
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i need champions so bad

shadow wind
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We all do

foggy lodge
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:truthnuke:

shadow wind
sudden remnant
strange fjord
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Mega Drampa gonna be my goat for Champions

dense latch
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i hope i actually cook something decent with megas

shadow wind
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I hope I actually cook

foggy lodge
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I hope I actually

strange fjord
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i

dense latch
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i hope i

sudden remnant
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kooc yllautca i epoh i

dense latch
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foggy lodge
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But anyways

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I'm gonna try to use double mega on champions

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Tho it can be hard on start cuz like I think double mega becomes stronger when you know the meta and how you approach MUs with each mega

shadow wind
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I just about lost to perish trap

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In the big Reg I

foggy lodge
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how lmao

shadow wind
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Whatchu mean how

foggy lodge
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Send the replay

shadow wind
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The specs Flutter caught me off guard

foggy lodge
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Hell nah it's a chinese account

shadow wind
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Yeah

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"Thank you for the points !" I say as I won because they didn't click trick room

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Yknow I'm fine with losing 1 point of elo

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It's crazy how that person was top 100 and I only get +16

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(+16 is the highest gain I've seen in years)

dense latch
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one loss and it's wraps

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-137 elo

foggy lodge
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You won because of the speed drop man LMAO

shadow wind
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Correct !

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That's why if they set up tr I lost

dense latch
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high ladder is some stressful shit

foggy lodge
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It probably doesn't have TR

shadow wind
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It might not no

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But usually they do

foggy lodge
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It probably is like protect fake out psychic taunt

shadow wind
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Once I realized I was slower I started popping off though

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Turn 6 I realized it

foggy lodge
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Yeah and you were unlucky with the pblades miss

shadow wind
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Probably killed?

foggy lodge
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It was at -2 def yeah it would have killed

shadow wind
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Depends on the Korai

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If it was max max yeah

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76+ Atk Tera Fire Groudon Precipice Blades vs. -2 0 HP / 4 Def Koraidon: 147-174 (84 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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So with lorb chip yeah it kills

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Man I just love vgc

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That game was stressful though

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I thought I lost after I missed

dense latch
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im surprised it doesnt ohko

shadow wind
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My Groudon is ultra weak

dense latch
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ig im not super familiar with groudon calcs

shadow wind
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Pblades is technically a 90 bp move too

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So it's not crazy

foggy lodge
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when i've used groudon it has been almost max attack

shadow wind
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Koraidon has decent physical bulk

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100/115/100 is nothing to scoff at

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It's not crazy either but it can take a hit

sudden remnant
shadow wind
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Fake out

foggy lodge
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Burn fake out

sudden remnant
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ah

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i forgot iron hands just gets fake out

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makes sense with the palms bigger than an average human head

shadow wind
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That's bros entire job 😭

foggy lodge
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Liar use swords dance Hands be evil

shadow wind
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Also you guys like that smooth heat crash because the most obvious disable is coming

dense latch
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real ones use belly drum iron hands to punish double tect

shadow wind
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If they didn't disable I actually probably lost

foggy lodge
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Yeah you played well around the disable

sudden remnant
shadow wind
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They could've encored the fake out and I probably lose

molten oasis
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Mirai should be electric and snarl not gleam oops

shadow wind
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Ursa really only needs 3 moves

molten oasis
shadow wind
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Is hyper voice a bit weird for the Farig there?

dense latch
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eq feels really hard to justify

molten oasis
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Was restricted formats psychic Fari?

dense latch
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yea

foggy lodge
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Yeah

molten oasis
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Oops my bad

shadow wind
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Usually yeah

molten oasis
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I remembered foul play but not psychic ig

shadow wind
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Some psychic noises to prevent Leech seed bot CIR and drain punch Hands

sudden remnant
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so is flutter just supposed to survive eterrain boosted volt switch

shadow wind
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But yeah usually it's foul play and psychic

shadow wind
dense latch
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flutter is surprisingly bulky specially

molten oasis
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Flutter be like that

foggy lodge
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I kinda want wide guard here ngl

shadow wind
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I was pretty surprised when it lived though

foggy lodge
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Cuz it helps for the Ursa vs CIR games

shadow wind
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196+ SpA Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Volt Switch vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Flutter Mane in Electric Terrain: 118-140 (90 - 106.8%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

foggy lodge
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Oh it was a min roll lmao

shadow wind
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So either I ultra low rolled or they had some invest

dense latch
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there's very little things i hated more than playing vs the fedecampo team with cir

molten oasis
foggy lodge
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But it didn't change stuff so

sudden remnant
shadow wind
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It would've been nice to ohko but whatever

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Oh wait it wasn't even specs

molten oasis
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Cuz what other wide guard options do I realistically have lol

foggy lodge
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It was probably a sash flutter anyways

shadow wind
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How did it do so much to my Farig?

molten oasis
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RIGHT

shadow wind
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252 SpA Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 236 HP / 108 SpD Farigiraf: 97-115 (43.1 - 51.1%) -- 4.7% chance to 2HKO

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Actually that makes sense

foggy lodge
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Actually

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With Valiant I think you could use something different to scarf

shadow wind
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AV?

foggy lodge
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AV still helps into Zama CSR

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And you get coaching for Zac

tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
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And I don't think you need dgleam

dense latch
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i've never seen scarf tera fairy gleam

sudden remnant
shadow wind
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Yeah me neither actually

foggy lodge
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And deadass run special Valiant with aura sphere

molten oasis
foggy lodge
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For Zamazenta

molten oasis
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For incin too

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Ok bet

foggy lodge
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I tell you see

shadow wind
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Scarf is like 100% electric

dense latch
foggy lodge
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I'm the best teambuilder ever

tiny karmaBOT
molten oasis
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Valiant over, what

foggy lodge
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Pao

molten oasis
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Pao?

shadow wind
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Gotta be pao

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You don't want spinner anyway

sudden remnant
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whats this talk about using valiant im very interested

shadow wind
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Also gives you the sash

molten oasis
foggy lodge
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Or Hearthflame I think but Pao doesn't close the team too much for me considering there's Farig Ursa and Miraidon + Zac + Pao can become too frail

sudden remnant
shadow wind
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Hearthflame + Val also clowns on some mons

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Coaching hearthflame into CIR is always funny

molten oasis
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Okay so

sudden remnant
shadow wind
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Not true in a restricted format

molten oasis
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Aura sphere wide guard coaching

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Icy wind or twave?

foggy lodge
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Encore

dense latch
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classic four moveslot syndrome

molten oasis
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No speed control?

shadow wind
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Also what's with the super sonic Oger?

foggy lodge
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Helps into balance

molten oasis
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Fair

foggy lodge
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Encore the CSR or the fake out

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But icy wind is usable too

sudden remnant
molten oasis
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Sash?

dense latch
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yea sash

shadow wind
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Absolutely

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It's why Pao is a good sacrifice

dense latch
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booster isn't that bad tho

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if you think you're gonna have it without eterrain in multiple scenarios

shadow wind
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Also I'd drop the Ogers speed to make it more tr friendly

dense latch
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think csr balance with rilla that could get kinda tricky

molten oasis
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I assume my game plan into korai is hearth Fari Mirai Ursa and then I sack hearth probably

shadow wind
#

Cause your team is going to have a single tr mon that isn't Farig

#

Into Korai Flutter yeah

molten oasis
shadow wind
#

Hard to have a lead into that

shadow wind
molten oasis
#

True

shadow wind
#

Having at least 3 mons on your team be functional in tr is very helpful

molten oasis
#

Uhhh, ghost valiant?

shadow wind
#

Usually yeah

molten oasis
shadow wind
#

Slow Miraidon is still above 170 speed

#

Never should a Miraidon be slower than Lando

molten oasis
#

Hm, could play the hella bulky Hearthflame

shadow wind
#

Ogerpon-Hearthflame (F) @ Hearthflame Mask
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 188 HP / 76 Atk / 108 Def / 124 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Ivy Cudgel
  • Wood Hammer
  • Follow Me
  • Spiky Shield
#

This is my hearthflame but feel free to make a new one

foggy lodge
shadow wind
#

Sub Ursa is... something

molten oasis
#

Curse Wolfe_Hello

shadow wind
#

Curse is funny

foggy lodge
#

You could also drop encore on Valiant for spirit break cuz spirit also creates some pins into tera dark CSR with snarl Miraidon

rustic mountain
#

leonard craft got like top 30 in the gc w/ fling mball ursa

molten oasis
#

Yeah that was funny

foggy lodge
#

I saw someone say it's like how vikings burned their boats before fights lmfao

rustic mountain
#

right lol

molten oasis
#

Anyone got an av Mirai spread?

shadow wind
#

But it is the fear factor

molten oasis
#

Or a Fari spread?

gentle cragBOT
foggy lodge
#

It also sucks how its bo1 so you still have to respect the Ursa Cress mode in team preview lmao

shadow wind
#

Miraidon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Hadron Engine
Level: 50
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 172 HP / 28 Def / 196 SpA / 4 SpD / 108 Spe
Modest Nature

  • Electro Drift
  • Draco Meteor
  • Parabolic Charge
  • Volt Switch
#

Super simple

molten oasis
#

Ty

shadow wind
#

It outspeeds Lando and hits a jump point

#

Farigiraf @ Electric Seed
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 236 HP / 164 Def / 108 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Foul Play
  • Psychic
  • Helping Hand
  • Trick Room
#

Farig set, just general bulk

#

Don't remember what it does exactly

#

I think I made it one more defense than the jump point to throw off calcs

molten oasis
#

Mk

shadow wind
#

It's like the my second least thought spread on the team

molten oasis
#

We got smth

shadow wind
#

Tera ghost Val

#

By the way that Oger lives 252 modest sharp beak bleakwind from Torn !

#

Sad that that's the only calc I know about that Oger 😔

#

Drago if you're going to play you should let me watch

molten oasis
#

Bet, not playing this second

shadow wind
#

Oh my days he has aura

foggy lodge
#

They actually put effort into this things

shadow wind
#

If only they put effort into games

foggy lodge
#

😔

shadow wind
foggy lodge
#

Idk man

#

He doesn't deserve it

shadow wind
#

Definitely not

foggy lodge
shadow wind
#

Wait that's kinda fire

foggy lodge
shadow wind
#

Hold up

foggy lodge
#

I like that the Regis have their points on the number

shadow wind
#

Why is Groudons lame

#

It's just red

#

Give him the sun atleast 😭

#

Rioting

foggy lodge
#

You get a slight bright that resembles sun

shadow wind
#

Kyogre also gets the light

foggy lodge
#

lmfao you got nothing then

shadow wind
#

What the heck

foggy lodge
#

But I think the legendaries' logos kinda sucked

shadow wind
#

Terapagos has a cool one

foggy lodge
#

Lunala also got a purole 3 and that's it

molten oasis
forest arrow
molten oasis
shadow wind
#

Solgaleo got shafted

forest arrow
#

We see the fit Annihilape

foggy lodge
shadow wind
#

Close ya mouth

molten oasis
#

Lmao

molten oasis
shadow wind
#

Like Groudon and Kyogre could've gotten the Omega and Alpha

foggy lodge
#

Why did the Voltorb line got some of the best ones

shadow wind
#

Hold up that's fire

molten oasis
#

That’s awesome

foggy lodge
#

30 years of being useless until they had to become a 0

forest arrow
#

Being a 0 you’re whole life pays off eventually

shadow wind
#

I'm 1 win away from being on the front page of the Reg I ladder

#

Aka 16th

foggy lodge
foggy lodge
shadow wind
#

😔

#

The stress is a lot

foggy lodge
#

Yes but who would be remembered

shadow wind
#

And you shouldn't queue if you aren't queueing to win

foggy lodge
#

The person in top 20

shadow wind
#

Currently queueing to not lose is what I'd be doing

foggy lodge
#

Or the person in the front page

shadow wind
#

Big difference

#

Nobody even knows who I am when I'm not on an alt

foggy lodge
#

Its wait

shadow wind
#

Which is ironic

foggy lodge
shadow wind
#

Oh nah

#

That image has done irreparable damage to my mindset

foggy lodge
#

This image is just to cause psychological damage

shadow wind
#

And after that last game I don't know if I got that dog in me

foggy lodge
#

Maybe tomorrow

shadow wind
#

Always tomorrow and never today !

foggy lodge
#

!!!

shadow wind
#

But am I not the same man

#

I AM THE SAME MAN

#

God like up pair by the way

#

I got 23 elo from that

#

Lowkey had a heart attack on the last turn

foggy lodge
#

LETS GO CONNER

shadow wind
#

Hold up someone decayed

#

Climbing without putting in anymore effort

#

Thank you Reg I ladder

#

About to ask pizza if I can submit this game

#

So then I have a 1662 replay on munchteams

#

When the highest public game on there is 1575

#

Sorry the highest rated public game is 1598

#

The highest rated public Groudon game is 1575

foggy lodge
shadow wind
#

Yeah

#

Not a fan of that

foggy lodge
#

I think the only missplay was the double up into Calyrex tbh

shadow wind
#

I was scared

#

I should've bulked up there

foggy lodge
#

Yeah

shadow wind
#

Cause obviously wake is faster

#

I knew he was protecting too

#

But I couldn't go for the Zama and have that protect and then I lose

#

Or miss a draco

#

But yeah no matter what I kill with wake

#

So I should've bulked up

foggy lodge
#

It was good to cover most scenarios

shadow wind
#

Not sure how Wake would've died

#

But just in case I guess

#

Aw man I'm 13th again 😔

#

The Umpire is a great player

foggy lodge
#

Its still fine

shadow wind
#

He's consistently at 80 gxe which I could never

foggy lodge
#

Wild

shadow wind
#

A big reason why I won is because I knew his sets

foggy lodge
#

There's layers to the reg I grinding

shadow wind
#

But he also knew mine so it was even

#

It's av pao

#

Only reason the turn 1 was what it was

foggy lodge
#

Yeah its the same team from worlds right?

shadow wind
#

Uhhh

foggy lodge
#

The Pao lives tera electric volt switch

shadow wind
#

Not sure

foggy lodge
#

But it doesn't live it with a HH obviously

shadow wind
#

Yeah I think it is this one

#

That encore has fried me many a time

strange fjord
shadow wind
#

Even if it isn't public from both players?

strange fjord
#

oh its a private one?

shadow wind
#

From their side yes

strange fjord
#

hmmm

shadow wind
#

I always have my lobbies open

#

But looking at my replays I don't see it

#

Most recent are just lower elo games

#

But when I click private I do see it

strange fjord
#

Hmm dang. gimme a minute to look something up

#

Nah, I don't wanna go against showdown's policy on Private replays become basically public.

shadow wind
#

Valid

#

Sharing it with you guys is definitely different than posting it on a data site

#

So yeah I wouldn't push it

#

I don't think I've ever seen someone use /hidereplay

foggy lodge
#

I just discovered you can do that

#

I also have the don't allow spectators lol

shadow wind
#

I always have spectators off

#

I'm here to entertain

foggy lodge
#

But its just because I hate when people start inviting their friends to their matches and they start to say dumb stuff in the chat

dense latch
#

i've gotten ppl joining into my testing games with a friend

shadow wind
#

I love interacting with people in the chat

#

It's so funny

#

Cause why are these people so serious over pokemon 😭

dense latch
#

i forget to turn spectators off for those and then we're stuck with some guy seeing us chat privately

foggy lodge
#

Its cool talking when your opponent's chill but I've already had people taking it way too seriously lol

#

So at most I say ggs in the chat

#

unless its the room tours cuz people on room tours are chill

shadow wind
#

I be doing this kind of stuff

#

Or I'm ragebaiting

#

But never insulting them

foggy lodge
#

I once had someone say I'm a lucky player because I didn't tera my Dragonite in front of a Dondozo with order up

#

My Dragonite lived even the crit order up btw

shadow wind
#

I love when people call me lucky

#

Cause I know I be missing

foggy lodge
#

I've had people say I'm lucky because I'm connecting sandsear wuajwjwjdkd

shadow wind
#

But maybe they're just having a bad day

#

So I never push it too far

#

Sometimes I'll chirp and say some stupid one liners but that's just how competition is to me

#

Growing up playing hockey does interesting stuff to the perception of sport

dense latch
#

some ppl have dm'd me after beating me in a bo1 just to keep shit talking

shadow wind
#

That's crazy stuff

dense latch
#

not trying to generalize but they've always been dozo players

foggy lodge
#

Today I had a Dozo player say that I had the perfect counter and I only won because of it

shadow wind
#

😭

foggy lodge
#

The MU wasn't even that good btw

shadow wind
#

"Not saying it's the dozo players, but it's the dozo players"

foggy lodge
#

The only way the MU is in my advantage is if twave paras their Dozo

#

And I twaves it and it didn't paralyze once

shadow wind
#

Twave...

#

Judging from a far

#

Also can we just take a second

#

Ladder blessed me

dense latch
#

if you play dozo you have to accept that there's gonna be multiple games you're gonna get haxed

shadow wind
#

An UP PAIR??? While in the top 20????

dense latch
#

when a pokemon gets doubled for 6 or one more than 6 turns it has to happen at some point

shadow wind
#

It's like christmas but better !

shadow wind
#

I wish more people built more teams

foggy lodge
#

And the funniest part

shadow wind
#

I like seeing different teams

foggy lodge
#

I beated them already like 2 weeks ago with another team

shadow wind
#

Wait do you guys remember when that guy dm'ed me saying I watched him play too much

foggy lodge
#

And when I beated them again was with a team I had 3 games of practice before

shadow wind
#

Found it

dense latch
#

yea i remember lmao

shadow wind
#

😭

foggy lodge
#

LMFAO

dense latch
#

main character syndrome

foggy lodge
#

Fr

shadow wind
#

Literally

#

Yo The Umpire on a roll

#

5th on ladder now

foggy lodge
#

"everyone is watching me play because I'm top 729 of the ladder..."

shadow wind
#

Bro is goated

#

I think The Umpire also won some award in some tournament server I'm in

dense latch
#

"the only reason my opponent won was because he strategically analysed my past games and defeated me with said information 🤓 ☝️ "

shadow wind
#

Hmm maybe not, I was thinking of a different guy

dense latch
#

how hard is it to admit you're ass

shadow wind
#

But I know he's been playing at least since I started

#

And he's been playing for 6 years

dense latch
#

it could be other formats too

shadow wind
#

I guess my account is 4 years old so it doesn't mean much

#

But he played vgc 2020

dense latch
#

mine is a bit over 5 years old

foggy lodge
#

Oh I also remember this guy that Shiliang reported because of disconnecting on cart ladder when they are about to lose

dense latch
foggy lodge
#

I also beated them and they also disconnected lmao

shadow wind
#

Goat

foggy lodge
#

And they are a Zama CSR Dozogiri player

shadow wind
#

He's climbing right now so he didn't disconnect I guess

shadow wind
molten oasis
shadow wind
#

The AV Pao team

dense latch
shadow wind
#

I feel like I seem them in the vgc chatrooms whenever I go there

foggy lodge
shadow wind
#

He lost to me then another game then climbed back to top 5

#

So some respect for the grind

#

I also wish more people played with spectators on

#

Oh dang there's good battles going on today

#

1300 soft cap 😔

dense latch
#

when i'd get on high ladder i'd just keep spectators on

shadow wind
#

It's fun when people join

dense latch
#

it was cool to see like 5 or 6 users sometimes

shadow wind
#

Yup

dense latch
#

room tours is where it's at

shadow wind
#

I'm no where near consistent enough for room tours

dense latch
#

10+ users

foggy lodge
#

I love room tours

#

They fill my VGC daily addiction without having to play ladder

dense latch
#

anytime my friend and I would win a room tour we'd say room tour W in our server just to keep track of them

shadow wind
#

I like my ladder games

dull ibex
#

Hello

foggy lodge
#

I won one like 2 days ago

#

With the GC team that I kinda hated

dense latch
#

i remember i was ecstatic when i won my first room tour in like 2021

shadow wind
#

I guess my one replay today was 1532

#

Public replay*

foggy lodge
#

The team is fine but in bo1 feels bad cuz I'm using an established team in a CTS enviroment

shadow wind
#

Yeah that's why I like my team

#

It functions in and out of ots

dense latch
#

but when i played them consistently they felt pretty easy

shadow wind
#

Like I hit 80 gxe with it in ots bo3

#

But now I've hit top 20 with it in bo1 cts

#

It's by far my favourite team

dense latch
#

i might've won like 30 or so since reg g 1

shadow wind
#

Jeez

shadow wind
#

Why is this what I gotta watch

#

I wanna watch at least 1300s gameplay

rustic mountain
#

i had fun winning quite a few room tours in swsh era

dense latch
#

it's less a testament of skill and more of how much i used to play like a year ago lmao

foggy lodge
# shadow wind

I ran into one of these and I critted them with wild charge and I won turn 1

shadow wind
#

W

shadow wind
dense latch
shadow wind
#

I just know how to not make stupid plays 90% of the time

dense latch
#

but it's been so long they're expired

shadow wind
#

Aw man

dense latch
#

i lost most of my teams too bc i switched laptops

#

aside from the ones i shared with my old teambuilding group

rustic mountain
#

i mightve saved 1 idk

#

but yea prolly expired

shadow wind
#

That's why I now have a teams google doc

dense latch
shadow wind
#

So when my showdown starts running slow I just transfer them all

molten oasis
dense latch
#

i'll try to find some funny team i built back in the day

#

i think i shared a few of my good teams on r/VGC

shadow wind
#

That's sick

molten oasis
#

Incin wasn’t enough

dense latch
#

the few members of that teambuilding group actually got really good in person results

#

one won seniors LAIC and got second at seniors worlds and another just top 4'd sydney

shadow wind
#

Oldest team I've ever made

dense latch
#

meanwhile my biggest flex are ladder placements

rustic mountain
#

do u go to irls tho

dense latch
#

not yet

#

but i doubt i'd come close

rustic mountain
#

well there u go haha

#

i mean gta throw ur hat in the ring first

#

might need more reps, might surprise urself

shadow wind
foggy lodge
#

If I save money I may go to Argentina next year and play their special event

dense latch
shadow wind
#

I'm fine when I'm staring at my computer screen and can just throw away turns but if I need to make sure I actually win it'd be hard

rustic mountain
#

im hopin to hit some irls up wen champions hits

dense latch
#

rotom wash was a cope from my experience in swsh

rustic mountain
#

who knows how ill do lmao but wanna atleast give it a go

shadow wind
#

Same

#

At some point I do want to enter one

foggy lodge
#

I have to go to locals first too

shadow wind
#

I wish I had locals near me

dense latch
#

locals here are so stacked

foggy lodge
#

There's a lot of good people at my locals that have been open to help me

shadow wind
#

But I've complained about no locals more than I've needed to

dense latch
#

since almost all the good players live in the capital

#

watch me go to a regional and play kommander r1 renzo navarro r2 lmao

foggy lodge
#

Fr

rustic mountain
#

idk kommander but yea renzos good

dense latch
#

he won lima's last special event

shadow wind
#

I think I'm coming to the realization that I like vgc as a whole

#

Like even just watching games I'm so invested and just happy to watch

rustic mountain
#

id b surprised u played vgc if that wasnt the case

dense latch
#

top 8 at merida too and a few regional top 16s

rustic mountain
#

strong finishes

shadow wind
rustic mountain
#

?

dense latch
#

i like being competent at something

shadow wind
#

Lots of people just like battling or just like team building

shadow wind
dense latch
#

i like getting attached to mons through vgc

#

shoutout regieleki and pult

shadow wind
#

It's fun caring

molten oasis
#

My first impression of a regional was NAIC

rustic mountain
#

most ppl good at vgc enjoy at as a whole otherwise they wouldnt b where they are

molten oasis
#

that was, very tough competition, and I still went positive

#

I’m hoping to do more in the future

shadow wind
#

Man sometimes I hate watching low elo though 😭

rustic mountain
#

u got guys literally doin data analytics for teambuilding

foggy lodge
#

Wait was Kommander's first ever tournament result a win lmao

shadow wind
#

Lowkey aura

molten oasis
shadow wind
#

Bro how is there 1 game above 1100

molten oasis
shadow wind
#

Don't mind him

foggy lodge
#

Lmfao

dense latch
shadow wind
#

Lowkey I sometimes forget he's even there

#

I think I enjoy being invested in something this much

#

I know I say I'm barely trying sometimes but lowkey I try my hardest in every game 😔

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
#

I like watching other people play and seeing other people play makes me want to play

#

I think that's just the biggest sign you like the game as a whole

dense latch
rustic mountain
dense latch
#

i havent built a team in a while

#

in this format especially i've felt like there's not much to build

foggy lodge
#

I feel like there's already a lot of stuff figured out and idk if there's much evolution left after EUIC

shadow wind
#

That's why your the goat

#

Also I thought their shifu was sashed so I thought you had it in the bag

dense latch
#

i just feel like it's not like im gonna be the one to discover a new core and shit so i just play the meta

shadow wind
#

Then it did a billion

shadow wind
#

When it was real

dense latch
#

same

shadow wind
#

Reg I is so much fun

dense latch
#

but rn i'm using the mdb team but with qd volc

#

volc is one of my favorite mons i've used in the sv era

rustic mountain
shadow wind
#

Happens

rustic mountain
#

atleast on that acc, my other alt in top 500 is 76%

shadow wind
#

Don't let your gxe control you !

rustic mountain
#

yea u know me, always goin off gxe

rustic mountain
shadow wind
#

Tinkaton is fire

#

He got a 1 in like 30 right so like whatever

rustic mountain
#

pauls right sometimes u just gta do shit and see if u can work ur way back in the game (his commentary on his euic win after his g1 t1)

shadow wind
#

My gxe right now is actually the highest it's ever been after like 50 games 😭

dense latch
#

ive just given up on the 80% gxe

shadow wind
foggy lodge
#

This account I've been using has a super bad gxe and I tanked a lot of elo but I got to top 1500+ with this in bo3 so I'm happy

shadow wind
#

You should be allowed to mess up

dense latch
#

i might've had a chance when i started to play reg i but with hax it feels really hard to do

shadow wind
#

If you play high ladder games your elo will natually go up

foggy lodge
#

I tanked elo mainly cuz I just used a lot of teams to test them in mid ladder

dense latch
#

unless i go super high on ladder

foggy lodge
#

And others because I'm just bad but anyways

rustic mountain
#

i had a nice 9 game win streak to cap it but i was bouncing between 1600s-1500s a cppl times

dense latch
#

it doesnt feel super healthy to try and get there

makes shit like 18 wins and one loss feels like failure

shadow wind
#

Yeah real

#

It's pretty luck based too

rustic mountain
#

its a 12 type team (most u can possibly have on a team of 6) teams fun but sucks

shadow wind
#

Depends on who you get queued into

#

Also you gotta have close to perfect luck for 18 games

dense latch
#

the last time i got on showdown was to test some skill swap interactions

rustic mountain
#

80% is either skill diff or u got the sauce

dense latch
#

and we found a visual bug when you use skill swap twice on the same mon

shadow wind
rustic mountain
#

ull get it eventually erik

shadow wind
#

Heck, the #1 player on the Reg I ladder right now doesn't even have 80

rustic mountain
#

it took me multiple times of hitting 79% only to fumble it b4 finally reaching it relatively recently

shadow wind
#

I've only ever hit it twice and once in vgc

dense latch
#

i'll try to let it happen naturally as i climb through ladder

#

whenever we get a fun format again

shadow wind
#

Reg I is a fun format !

rustic mountain
#

i think its fine to go for, just dont let it be the only thing ur playing for

foggy lodge
shadow wind
#

Me when I truth !

dense latch
#

i think i got 80% gxe in mix and mega

#

that was a fun week or two until i realized 7 people played it

rustic mountain
#

lmao

dense latch
#

so queues took 20 minutes and when i did queue i'd forget and just time out

shadow wind
#

I hit 80% in rands once

#

Thank you Calculus for being so boring that I hit 80% in rands at school

rustic mountain
#

randbats is fun every now and then

foggy lodge
#

It kinds sucks that they bring back old VGC formats to ladder but very few people play

shadow wind
#

I'm glad I have my 80% fully documented on pasrs

dense latch
#

i had a metronome battle phase

shadow wind
#

Ogerpon being the classic follow me bot

#

Wait should I chuck all my games this Reg I into a pasrs?

dense latch
#

farig is almost perfect

shadow wind
#

Hmm there's not enough I think

dense latch
#

get in a game and click tr three times for funsies

foggy lodge
shadow wind
#

Oh wait

#

There's so many games

#

Alright give me a bit I got some copy and pasting to do

#

Isn't there a new pasrs or something?

#

Is 6.2 the newest?

#

Alright now I gotta paste so many games 😔

#

And they are NOT going to be in order

#

Why is there so many losses here

#

Somethings up

shadow wind
#

Ok only 71 games

#

Out of my 273

#

No clue where the other 202 games went

#

Wake is a weather ball merchant

foggy lodge
#

I love the word merchant

shadow wind
#

Merchant is a W word

foggy lodge
#

I remember yawn Blursa

#

My reg H merchant

shadow wind
#

My Miraidon has surprisingly balanced moves

#

How it feels to not use "shockingly" when describing a Miraidon stat

#

Where do you find how often you bring a mon?

dense latch
shadow wind
#

And some of them are extremely low for 71 games

dense latch
shadow wind
dense latch
#

so there's a clear preferred mode

shadow wind
#

Am I dumb?

dense latch
shadow wind
#

Oh is it just that?

dense latch
#

games won / games brought to

shadow wind
#

Oh that makes sense

#

I feel 80 right now

dense latch
#

also hands being brought in the lead just once is funny

#

out of 48 games

shadow wind
#

Yeah wait let me find that game

#

Oh low elo

#

Against banded Terrakion...

#

Also just realized I has 3 tera fires on the team

#

Well no wonder I hate Kyogre games

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Wake and Oger are 100% the patches sewn onto the team

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They're mu fixes

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If I was going to fix the team they're roles would probably be combined

foggy lodge
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Just to keep it iconic

shadow wind
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Gotta

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I love walking wake

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244 SpA Life Orb Walking Wake Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 100 HP / 4 SpD Zamazenta-Crowned in Sun: 164-195 (91.1 - 108.3%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO