competitive_discussion

[shadow wind]

Yeah fake out actually works

[rustic mountain]

if no giraffe

[shadow wind]

😔

[dense latch]

im ready for koraidon to be an “if mon”

[shadow wind]

I love and hate that giraffe

[shadow wind]

He gonna be sv Groudon

[dense latch]

“if it could tera defensively” “if it could still had stab flare blitz”

[rustic mountain]

as much as i love the fake out cycle game giraffe is a healthy addition to have

[dense latch]

100%

[shadow wind]

I'm waiting for the wide guard ability mon to drop

We have 3 quick guard abilities

[rustic mountain]

chi yu flutter seems scary w/o tera

[shadow wind]

All differently named too

[dense latch]

i like doing it to other people but no one can do it to me then it’s unbalanced boring and unhealthy

[shadow wind]

The humble uhhh

[dense latch]

av incin like barely

[shadow wind]

AV Arcanine

[dense latch]

fire fairy coverage man some real scary stuff

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[shadow wind]

Call that Avcanine

I think my jokes have gotten worse progressively

[rustic mountain]

fire/fairy would b such a cool typing

they r gna give it to some shit mon

[dense latch]

it’s a missed opportunity

i was about to say im hoping the box art legend gets it

[rustic mountain]

like normal/ghost is very good so u gta give it to a mon like hzoro to balance it out

[shadow wind]

"You know what, make it physical and give it flash fire"

[dense latch]

see you in one and a half years or whatever when im right (i wont be)

[shadow wind]

WIth the names of the games there's no way

Not going into leaks but there's no way it's going to be a fire type box art

[rustic mountain]

u never know

[dense latch]

it having three immunities with illusion seems like a match made in heaven it just has no bulk so it drops to everything else

[rustic mountain]

right

[dense latch]

dlc 🤞

[shadow wind]

If they try to upstage Groudon one more time I'm going to die

[dense latch]

dongrou

[shadow wind]

"Easy bake oven dlc"

[molten oasis]

It’s gonna have 450 bst and keen eye and be a bird for 0 reason

[shadow wind]

If they make it physical it's already over lowkey

[rustic mountain]

i mean ngl i cant shit on hzoro too much its won a regional and had like a cppl other decent results in reg h

[molten oasis]

I do hope we get a cool fire fairy tho it’s a cool typing

[shadow wind]

I can think of so many ways they can take it

[dense latch]

mickey mouse ring

[shadow wind]

Yo wait when do we get the cool fire type legendaries

[molten oasis]

I think Delphox could have been fire fairy but eh

[shadow wind]

Ogerpon is hard carrying right now

[rustic mountain]

but i do feel they dont do it for a reason w/ certain types out of fear of it being too strong

[shadow wind]

I guess Chi yu exists

[molten oasis]

Pao>

[shadow wind]

My point was fire types !

[molten oasis]

Better comp Mon imo, better design, I like the long ice cat more

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

Yeah they design ice types better (cope)

[shadow wind]

I'm sorry but Entei and Ho oh are not cool 😔

[molten oasis]

Entei’s alright

[shadow wind]

I like em but they aren't the embodiment of awesomeness

[rustic mountain]

dude what?

entei is extremely cool

[molten oasis]

I like gouging fire

[shadow wind]

Gouging fire is lit

[molten oasis]

I like all 3 of the paradox beasts

[shadow wind]

Yeah me too

[molten oasis]

I wish wake was better

[shadow wind]

Yeah me too 😔

[rustic mountain]

gouging is pineapple dinosaur its ok i used to not like it

[shadow wind]

Ok maybe I'm too harsh on Entei

[rustic mountain]

wake is an abomination

[molten oasis]

Could be neck

[shadow wind]

Entei is cool

[rustic mountain]

raging bolt is funny

[molten oasis]

Bolt’s just straight neck lol

https://tenor.com/view/sandy-shocks-pokémon-scarlet-and-violet-indigo-disk-blueberry-academy-gif-2781084117707970046

[shadow wind]

Real by the way

[molten oasis]

I wish the future paradox were designed better

[shadow wind]

Especially their shinies

[molten oasis]

Iron hands is the goat but like, the rest don’t look that great and also kinda suck

[rustic mountain]

eh i think the future designs are overall good

few not so good

[shadow wind]

I just wish they had cooler shinies

[molten oasis]

I like bundle moth and hands

[shadow wind]

Imagine they changed their leds

[molten oasis]

That’s kinda it the rest are meh

[shadow wind]

And not just make em grey

Like shiny Miraidon is so mid

[molten oasis]

Yk, they made 2 new versions of volcarona and they were both mid lol

[rustic mountain]

the shinies and names are a bit uninspired yea

[shadow wind]

And shiny Koraidon is SO HEAT

[shadow wind]

Base volc popped off in sv

[molten oasis]

Slither wing sucks and moth doesn’t get good poison coverage

[shadow wind]

What you don't want acid spray?

[rustic mountain]

yea these r the top tiers

[molten oasis]

If moth just got sludge bomb I could see it get used

[shadow wind]

What about val?

[molten oasis]

It fucking doesn’t

[shadow wind]

Val is cool

Robot warrior from the future with both Gallade and Gardevoir in mind is sick

[molten oasis]

Val’s okay I don’t really care for that line of mons

Like design wise I like the more animal like designs, I care less for the humanoid ones

[shadow wind]

Iron Jugulis might as well be renamed to tailwind then snarl

[shadow wind]

Where does Groudon fall on that scale?

[molten oasis]

Groudons a giant lizard.

[shadow wind]

I know and it's so awesome 🔥

[molten oasis]

Like my top 3 are zacian chien pao and dragapult

I like beasts

[shadow wind]

Bro loves the speed and attack stat

[molten oasis]

True lol

[rustic mountain]

thorns/bundle/hands/moth-top tiers -enough of the original to keep it grounded while adding its own unique twist to make it, its own
valiant/treads- mid tiers-solid, has somewhat of a different mix up to the original design but still falls a bit short (tusk has slightly different futuristic features and valiant is just a fusion of the 2 final evos)
jugulis-low tier, flat, uninspired not much different then the original other then hey its me but robot future version

[molten oasis]

Yeah

[shadow wind]

Rest in peace Jugulis

[rustic mountain]

id put crown mid tier, boulder and leaves low tier

[molten oasis]

They fumbled on that trio

[shadow wind]

Remember when we heard about mighty cleave and thought it was over for competitive as we knew it

[rustic mountain]

no

[dense latch]

man i love pult

[molten oasis]

Twice, they fumbled that trio, twice

[rustic mountain]

yea

crowns been ok in comp atleast

[molten oasis]

Terakkion has history

Could be the loyal three tho

[shadow wind]

I'd even go as far to say it's been great

[molten oasis]

In reg f and reg f only

[rustic mountain]

ppl r saying okidogi might have a good showing at euic

[molten oasis]

It wasn’t that great outside of reg f

[rustic mountain]

the streets are speaking

[shadow wind]

Didn't it win the last 2 Reg G events?

[molten oasis]

Okidogi carries that trio on his back

[shadow wind]

Munkidori isn't a pokemon

[molten oasis]

Did it? Idk idgaf about reg g anymore

[rustic mountain]

its the coolest so makes sense

[rustic mountain]

what did

[dense latch]

munkidori and fez have insane tcg cards if that’s worth something

[rustic mountain]

they need something

[shadow wind]

Crown won the last 2 regionals in Reg G

[dense latch]

fez is in pretty much every good deck in the game

[molten oasis]

Still wish they just gave it defiant

[shadow wind]

Fez has been cool in some oms but that's about it

[molten oasis]

But guard dog makes thematic sense so

No trio will ever compare to the genies tho

[rustic mountain]

it did not win the seville special event 🤓

[molten oasis]

Oh right crown koraidon really popped off

[shadow wind]

I was very clear that I said regional 🤓

[molten oasis]

Ig it was good in g too

[shadow wind]

After I said event prior...

https://pokepast.es/ee8425880577eddc

[rustic mountain]

i mean it was a joke but special event winner does get worlds invite as well

[shadow wind]

Yeah but then this won Monterrey

[shadow wind]

Valid

Discharge Miraidon 😔

[molten oasis]

Hm

[rustic mountain]

fun times

[shadow wind]

With tera ground crown 😔

And Ursa no tr 😔 😔 😔

[rustic mountain]

reg g 1 =fun
reg g 2= get me out of here

[molten oasis]

I do wonder what the rest of reg f has in store, however, I hope champions is in march

I need, new content, I’m tired of the reruns

[shadow wind]

Reg g 1 = Groudon !!
Reg g 2 = Omg Groudon I've missed you !!

[rustic mountain]

my guess is may for champions earliest april

march would be a nice surprise

[molten oasis]

I think reg g 2 was awful, reg h 2 was meh, reg f 2 had been ok

[shadow wind]

Nah what are you guys talking about it's obviously dropping on Pokemon day

[molten oasis]

Obviously cope

[rustic mountain]

reg h 2 was solid, reg f 2 has also been solid

[molten oasis]

No reg I 2 please

Do not do reg I again gf

[shadow wind]

Honestly I've been enjoying my adventures in Reg I bo1

But maybe this is because I'm just the worst Reg F player ever

[molten oasis]

Reg I is full of incin I don’t get to play the game.

[rustic mountain]

i enjoyed both original iterations a lot more tho, i think not having it on cart is a huge reason

[molten oasis]

Hmmm, yeah yk reg f is fine

I do think eventually I’m gonna hop onto bolt balance

Tho I prefer the offensive bolt versions

[shadow wind]

Just uh Kyogre?

[molten oasis]

Cm bolt mirrors suck

[molten oasis]

Origin pulse missed incineroar!

[rustic mountain]

i should try regidrago crown stuff see if i can get good enough w/ it for the gc

[molten oasis]

THAT HAPPENED SO MUCH TO ME

playing kyogre does not feel good

It’s ether fucking awesome or can’t do anything

[shadow wind]

Playing Groudon feels awesome

[rustic mountain]

i weirdly have not played many, feel like it was a lot more common the first go around

[shadow wind]

A very trusted source

[molten oasis]

Yeah but I still don’t wanna deal with that mirror yk?

It’s just, it’s not fun lol

[rustic mountain]

yea thats fair, for me its like i have lando i usually dont need to opt into it unless they r very anti lando

or even chien pao

[molten oasis]

I play pao shifu on bolt balance

I like the pressure they put on the opponent

[rustic mountain]

yea im running chien pao watershifu

[molten oasis]

Tho I’m probably gonna take the SD ogerpon variant for a spin, that set feels really good and it’s fun

[molten oasis]

Scarf shifu or?

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

Nice, I prefer mystic

[rustic mountain]

i ran mystic for a bit reg f 1 but i switched to scarf towards the end and i havent looked back

im considering mystic for the gc but also the team that won had mystic so scarf can catch ppl off

[molten oasis]

That’s valid

I’ve seen a good amount of sash too

[rustic mountain]

if i wasnt running the pao variant id have sash 100%

[molten oasis]

Pao needs that sash

[rustic mountain]

im just very comfortable w/ my damage calcs and overall play w/ chien pao

[rustic mountain]

im not spicy enough for life orb or any other crazy item for it

[dense latch]

i had a lot of fun with lorb pao

[molten oasis]

I was jumping around a lot cuz, per usual I was against playing incin rilla, and then I started playing it with prim and went “wow, I’m an idiot” lol

[dense latch]

some calcs were crazy

[molten oasis]

I think I remember lorb stellar pao could OHKO CIR’s lol

[rustic mountain]

running life orb chien pao vs. eriksp: 100-100 (1000%) -- possibly losing his damn mind

[solid frigate]

Bro is going to mental asylum soon if he keeps doing that

[stone trellis]

Same.

Although it is a bit harder than Reg J because there's no shitty mythical teams to farm all day.

It's just shitty CSR teams where I have to basically play 11-D chess while beating Bloodlust blindfolded.

[leaden fox]

Only 16 days until we likely get new info on Champions and more 😅

[modest spruce]

Finally hit master ball for the third time ever

[leaden fox]

Nice 😁

[leaden fox]

Here is me trying to think about what possible teams I could make in Champions; despite not knowing more solid info or abilities on the new Megas 😂

[solid frigate]

For now just focus on old megas first

[leaden fox]

Already have been; though depends on the regulation/rule set, and what mons will be allowed (e.g. sub-legends like Urshifu, G-Moltres, etc & Paradox mons, etc)

Have an idea for a rain team, a sun team and a couple of general teams

Could also mean the return of "CHALK" in a way

[solid frigate]

I would just play Mega Salamence+Fire type

[stone trellis]

Dude, Mega Sally + Incineroar or Chi-Yu.

That shit would be so degenerate in theory.

[solid frigate]

I actually tried Salamence + Hearthflame before

And Chi Yu just for Special Attacking Mence

[leaden fox]

I am considering for the Sun Team: Mega Char Y, Incineroar, Garchomp, Venusaur, Torkoal, H-Lilligant

[solid frigate]

That’s gonna be more annoying for me lol

[leaden fox]

But may consider running Urshifu-DF and Farig too

There is a few options

Rain team will be interesting though, since you can run Mega-Swampert

That plus mons like Archu, Pelip, Urshifu-FW, Rilla solidifying the team

No clue what to run for the last slot though 😅

Maybe Mega-DNite

[stone trellis]

The fuck are DF and FW?

[leaden fox]

But yeah, the Mega format coming back with all these buffs + optional members to their teams from Gen 8 and 9 (eventually 10) is gonna be crazy

[stone trellis]

I only know SS and RS.

[leaden fox]

Yeah, Dark/Fighting and Fighting/Water 😅

[stone trellis]

That's beyond stupid.

[leaden fox]

Don't ask me why I called 'em that xD

[stone trellis]

But aight.

Just call them DarkFu and WaterFu, it saves you time.

[leaden fox]

Or DarkUrsh and WaterUrsh xP

[foggy lodge]

You are gonna be good I trust

[stone trellis]

Anyway, I've discovered that I'm really good at spam in Geometry Dash.

I've only just started gaining consistency and I can hit 20-23 CPS with good enough warmup.

I wish I had a handcam or something.

[leaden fox]

Considering you get Ice Punch, Waterfall/Liquidation, Earthquake and now Flip Turn, yeah, should be good

[stone trellis]

150 Attack is pretty great, but 70 Speed is kinda lacking, even for a Swift Swim user.

[leaden fox]

Can be yeah, would have to calc it

But a Jolly max Speed could be good

[stone trellis]

134 * 2 = 278.

[leaden fox]

Plus unlike Gen6&7, the speed increase is instant (thanks to Gen8 onwards)

[stone trellis]

That's below the Speed of a max Speed (neutral nature) base 135 with Scarf/Booster on.

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but it depends on the speed tier the mons of the format are

I don't think you use it once things like Flutter arrive

I think Kilowattrel can also be pretty good in rain with it even tho its a bit of a fraud

[leaden fox]

tbf, if they were to ban Paradox mons; then Mega Swamp could be good; plus Tornadus-I could help a lot

[foggy lodge]

252 SpA Kilowattrel Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Basculegion: 168-198 (86.1 - 101.5%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO

[stone trellis]

Are we allowed to post videos here if they're ours?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

I mean as long as they VGC related

[stone trellis]

Shit.

[foggy lodge]

I think idk I never really checked the rules tbh LOL

[leaden fox]

Always worth to ask

[bold geode]

Have to do an application from #self_promotion and get it approved if it's your videos

[stone trellis]

Hell nah then.

[cerulean lance]

This might sound like a dumb question but I’m in Pokemon Violet Battle Stadium and when I go to Ranked Double battles it doesn’t say what VGC regulation format we are in. It just says season 39 double and that we can have two restricted Pokemon.

[stone trellis]

Just go to news then.

It's Reg I now.

[bold geode]

The format the ranked ladder is in is Regulation I, which allows you to have two restricted Pokemon on your team

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2537743258-1reewienvq2bxqwhvelxfyqyn8no85dpw
never gets old beating dozo

[forest arrow]

Be weary of the new 2-2-2 running around

Cloak Oblivious Dozo

[stone trellis]

What are you guys running for the GC?

[forest arrow]

I’m thinking P2 Ursa but I’m still unsure

It’s my comfort pick tho so it may be that

[stone trellis]

I'd say that it's brimstone, but that would imply I enjoy the format enough to care about the quality of teams.

P2-Ursa with what else?

And what form of the bear?

[forest arrow]

Incin Amoongus Torn Shifu

Rapid Shifu and Guts bear

[stone trellis]

Damn it, and I actually kind of like that idea.

[forest arrow]

It’s super strong, it’s got a target on its back tho like bolt balance

[stone trellis]

How tanky does everyone need to be EV wise?

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/50a2083230c4e400

I’ll send you a dm of my paste

[rustic mountain]

https://i.imgflip.com/ajwbxy.jpg

[foggy lodge]

Pin it

[deft crypt]

Anyone have op build for annihilate for rank

[shadow wind]

Op build 🥀

[solid frigate]

Final Gambit! IT KILLS FUCKING EVERYTHING /j

[rustic mountain]

hit 1700s in reg f

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

i haven’t made it past 1600s yet

[rustic mountain]

i was struggling a cppl weeks ago ull get there

granted i havent been playing much but now w/ the gc approaching im trynna lock in more

[molten oasis]

I got to like 1650 with lorb bolt balance once and didn’t continue

[rustic mountain]

recently?

[molten oasis]

Like a week or two ago yes

[rustic mountain]

nice

bolts so good, such a wide range of items u could reasonably run on it

[molten oasis]

Yeah you got

Lefties, booster, lorb, goggles sometimes, av, very flexible guy

[rustic mountain]

shuca was also seen to some success in a recent tour

think it was either top 16 or 32

[molten oasis]

Oh true

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2538142718-nnl2scir2ns210nxox87l97oyejebbwpw

[ocean pawn]

https://youtu.be/dxjCdscdlcg?si=eoAuOcsIAe1Chf2q

[stone trellis]

I don't even know what's harder, beating CSR-Zama + Rilla as a CIR-Miraidon user or doing this jump.

(The timing for the music was entirely unintentional, I had my PC muted)

[next stump]

When I ran CIR/Mirai, Volcarona was the answer to those comps

Solo carries the matchup

[solid frigate]

For me it’s more like

Ho-Oh

Insane special Bulk and resist Zamazenta and Rillaboom entirely

Though the down side is that I have to lead Ho-Oh Grimm

[stone trellis]

I don't use Volcarona, but aight.

I'm kind of forced to use Hearthflame because it just shits on so many other things.

[leaden fox]

I have used Volcarona before; but think I ran the wrong set and/or didn’t have the right EVs and Nature, etc

[stone trellis]

My personal favorite tech is max HP 116 Def Bold Volcarona.

It ensures that Urshifu will always need to hit Surging Strikes thrice.

Thus maximising the probability of that 30% kicking in.

[leaden fox]

Oh yeah, I get that

[stone trellis]

Gotta love how a big part of VGC is just figuring out how to make yourself gamble more efficiently.

[leaden fox]

Have to be wary of ogerpon wellspring though

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2538245856-5qe45wiciyi2nef0at0p9jcrk1murr3pw

Wat is 20% * 20% * 20%?

[dense latch]

0.8%

[stone trellis]

Sweet.

So Bleakwind missing thrice is 1 in 1250?

[dense latch]

1/125

[stone trellis]

Oh yeah, you're right.

[leaden fox]

I've been in situations where I know I need to hit Bleakwind or Sandshear to get ahead 😅

[stone trellis]

So have I.

And these two fucking moves never fail to disappoint.

[leaden fox]

You ain't wrong xP

[bold geode]

I want Tapu Fini so bad

[solid frigate]

Not the Fiwam berries

[stone trellis]

Imagine Gluttony + Recycle + unnerfed FIWAM.

[dense latch]

yeah snorlax was great

[stone trellis]

He had that?

[dense latch]

yes

[stone trellis]

Makes sense.

[dense latch]

you’d belly drum and get back to max in the same turn and some sets would run recycle

[solid frigate]

Gen 7 Snorlax is Tofu if he locked the fuck in

[stone trellis]

Snorlax's catchphrase should be that one line from Monster where Rick Ross says something to the effect of "fat motherfucker, now look who's in trouble".

[shadow wind]

He literally won worlds

[stone trellis]

My bad for being nine years old and not knowing shit about Pokemon at the time, I guess.

[shadow wind]

I didn’t know about vgc at the time either

[shadow wind]

I’ve just studied world champion teams

[stone trellis]

I haven't.

[shadow wind]

And also that team was super sick

Gastrodon my beloved

[stone trellis]

I know which Pokemon have won Worlds, but not the specifics of each team.

[solid frigate]

Honestly I love how flexible mega Salamence is in Gen 7

[shadow wind]

Bro can Groudon lock in and not get second place at worlds and actually win

[stone trellis]

Nah, he'll lose again.

[sudden remnant]

@stone trellis hey king i lost my old discord

its naganohara_akira

[sudden remnant]

bless you king 🙏🏻

[stone trellis]

Oh, so that's why you never responded.

[sudden remnant]

Yeah 😭

i um couldnt

[stone trellis]

At least you're alive and (presumably) doing well.

[sudden remnant]

lets go with “existing”

[stone trellis]

Either way, welcome back.

[sudden remnant]

ive missed yall 😭

[stone trellis]

As have we.

[sudden remnant]

i bought za and the dlc

the dlc was so disappointing im actually sad

idk what i expected from nintendo tbh

[stone trellis]

I never bought it.

I never even finished Z-A because my Geometry Dash phase began a little after I bought it.

[sudden remnant]

real shit

[sudden remnant]

dont buy it its not worth it 😭

[stone trellis]

I want to use Mega Rayquaza in a game though...

[sudden remnant]

every pokemon you can get in the za dlc you can get from swsh sv and arceus

[forest arrow]

Game itself was super fun, DLC was an utter disappointment

[stone trellis]

When's the GC happening?

[forest arrow]

Not this weekend but next

[stone trellis]

Good.

[forest arrow]

EUIC is tomorrow

[stone trellis]

Sweet.

At least I'll actually be able to watch this tournament.

[forest arrow]

Yeah I’m excited, can’t wait to see what everyone brings

[sudden remnant]

the base game was amazing, the dlc just made me sad

i got my meowsticite and quit the dlc

[forest arrow]

I’m making a call that some people are gonna run jolly shifu with life orb over the adamant mystic

[sudden remnant]

i was gonna get the lucarionite z but i genuinely couldnt bring myself to play the dlc anymore

[forest arrow]

I hunted a Shalpha treecko then quit lol

Might have to hunt for Kanga and Charmander shalphas tho

[sudden remnant]

someone gave me my shiny meowstic and really what more do i need 😁
my mawile is shiny my lucario is shiny my meowstic is shiny

[dense latch]

using it next z destiny bond mimikyu must have been so fun

[sudden remnant]

i am looking for a charcadet though

[sudden remnant]

wsg gang long time no see

[dense latch]

yoo

[forest arrow]

Sounds terrible

[sudden remnant]

mikyukyu mentioned

[forest arrow]

Not the snorlax or the mimi, facing it

like wouldn’t be fun to fight lol

[dense latch]

pre nerf disguise was smth else

[solid frigate]

Mimikyu: IM PULLING YOU BACK TO DEPTHS OF HELL

[sudden remnant]

would any of you happen to have a hisuian lilligant below the level of 15

[sudden remnant]

lunala and any mold breaker mon would like a word

[dense latch]

you could give mimi sash and it would be impossible to 2HKO without multi hit moves or like mold breaker and shit like that

[solid frigate]

If only Urshifu is in Gen 7 /j

[sudden remnant]

its stats probably wouldnt be as good lets be honest rn

[dense latch]

i wish they got creative with more status z moves

destiny bond + follow me is insane work

[sudden remnant]

at that point just perish trap me gang 🥀 it would hurt less

[sudden remnant]

ursaluna learns the elemental punches 👀

[stone trellis]

No shit.

[sudden remnant]

how am i to know that ive literally never used base form ursaluna

i cant say i havent used ursaluna cuz i used UBM for a bit

[rustic mountain]

hunted peak then left, respect

[rustic mountain]

the fact u could run sash w/ it is crazy in retrospect

[sudden remnant]

translation: mikyukyu was very hard to kill

[rustic mountain]

[forest arrow]

You already know bro 🤝

Tree wanna see some GC slop

[rustic mountain]

sure

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/c081780f42493d9b

[sudden remnant]

they still dont have a sprite for poni?

[forest arrow]

Guess not

[shadow wind]

Bo1 can be so tilting sometimes

Especially when people take a regional winning team and change 1 set

[sudden remnant]

fork found in kitchen 😭🙏🏻

[shadow wind]

Tera ground in bo1 is also just the Miraidon killer

[sudden remnant]

tera fairy dazzling gleam wants a word

now that i say that

[shadow wind]

I'm scarf tera electric

[sudden remnant]

but miraidon got dazzling gleam 🤨

[shadow wind]

Miraidon also got overheat

Special moves are more universal usually though

[rustic mountain]

interesting, variant of the sydney winning team im assuming

[shadow wind]

Lots of mons will have random special moves but physical moves are usually pretty theme dependent

[sudden remnant]

still they should have given koraidon play rough to (kind of) balance miraidon gettling dgleam

[shadow wind]

Yeah that's fair

[sudden remnant]

makes sense since most dragon types learn some type of fire type move

[shadow wind]

Focus sash reversal Koraidon

[rustic mountain]

sash koraidon seems ok then u realize blitz is off the table (generally)

[sudden remnant]

what about copying ursalunas whole flow and tera normal facade

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Me when I run that cool sleep talk rest body press Koraidon

[rustic mountain]

me wen i run flutter and wall u

[sudden remnant]

so stealing zamazentas literal only use

[shadow wind]

You mean ohko

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Before I even get to rest off any damage

[sudden remnant]

koraidon learns heavy slam

[shadow wind]

I love when I lose 1 game then win 2 and I'm +5 elo

Thank you showdown !!

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Actually my gxe went up from that

[rustic mountain]

sure but then ur running koraidon w/ heavy slam

[shadow wind]

Thank you showdown for real this time

[sudden remnant]

you’re already running koraidon with body press you cant troll much more already

[rustic mountain]

tru

[shadow wind]

Wait actually I went +3 elo

And I only lost to a missed draco 😔

[rustic mountain]

lesson, dont lose

[shadow wind]

So true

[sudden remnant]

koraidon with heavy slam and body press for damage genuinely sounds like a level of troll even i wouldnt reach to

[shadow wind]

You can't lose if you just win

[rustic mountain]

exactly

like, just stop losing and ur good

[shadow wind]

Literally don't know how I didn't think of that

I did hit 76 again so that's cool

[sudden remnant]

and if i say so myself im rank 2 troll here i remember someone here more troll i just dont remember her name ✌🏻

[forest arrow]

Yeah, it didn’t start that way

[shadow wind]

Genuinely the best gxe I've had ever

Like over this many games

[forest arrow]

Idk how I ended up there but once Drago hit the builder it kind of just filled itself in lmao

[rustic mountain]

i actually think hzoro makes the team better for bo1 but i like the swapped pieces

[shadow wind]

Horoark 😔

[rustic mountain]

definitely prioritizing speed w/ bundle and reg ogerpon

[rustic mountain]

nice

[sudden remnant]

poni the absolute goat mentioned

[shadow wind]

Although looking at my w/l rate it's mediocre

[rustic mountain]

always good to see the progress unfold in real time

[shadow wind]

But I guess that it'll eventually even out at the higher end of the ladder

[forest arrow]

Encore and Taunt is also really nice, Grasspon/Gambit is a pretty good lead into trick room, they don’t want to lead incin, and I ignore Amoongus, so unless they have follow me I’m pretty good into like P2 stuff

[shadow wind]

Currently 94/47

[rustic mountain]

right i see the vision

thats good conner

[shadow wind]

Yeah 2:1 is a good ratio

[forest arrow]

Grasspon and gambit also oppress the shit out of Luna in and out of Tera

I think I cooked hard

[rustic mountain]

like sure it can b better but 75%+ is a very good gxe

[shadow wind]

I had some stupid like 36-9 or something with 78 but early account syndrome

Definitely hit my plateau

[forest arrow]

Groudon Gaming

[shadow wind]

Cause I was 37-9 at about the same elo

So I've just been hovering

[forest arrow]

I respect the hell out of it bro

[shadow wind]

If only I used that alt still

I don't think I've used an alt in like 3 months

Which definitely makes laddering less fun but I'd rather people see me and not a goofy username

[rustic mountain]

well u figure the skill rate of ur opponent only increases the higher on ladder u are so its not as easy to maintain the more u continue playing. usually major skill diffing and or team sauce that puts ppl in the 80%+ range of dominance

[shadow wind]

Yeah those guys are on a different level

I remember seeing a 90 gxe post once

And then the guy posted the most basic cir kyogre team and I was just like thinking that the guy knew how to beat people on the ladder

Cause there's ladder teams and tournament teams

To some degree anyway

[rustic mountain]

90 is ascended flow state

[shadow wind]

Yeah literally

I'm pretty content with my single 80 in vgc

I'm also happy it was bo3

[rustic mountain]

now that ive tasted 80 i wanna be there consistently now

vgc just been boring lately

for me atleast

[shadow wind]

And I even was doing a pasrs for that team so all the games are documented which is dope

[shadow wind]

Extremely

[rustic mountain]

im hovering 75-78ish generally

[shadow wind]

That's still insane

My Reg F gxe is like sub 60

And there's 0 excuse for me being that complete trash at a regulation

[rustic mountain]

ur not really motivated either tho

which doesnt help

[shadow wind]

Yeah but sub 60 is like...

Not my norm

[rustic mountain]

yea thats the thing too w/ gxe, like ur not a 50% player even in reg f u prolly were just forcing b.s and not caring

[shadow wind]

Oh for sure

Dang my last sub 60 gxe reg was also reg f 😭

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[shadow wind]

Do not look at how many reg h games I played

[rustic mountain]

dude wtf

[shadow wind]

And such a terrible gxe too 😭

[rustic mountain]

its not awful

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah wait that's when I was using Arcanine and Altaria

But then I hit 1800 with the team so I don't know anymore

[rustic mountain]

50-mid
60-solid
70-very good
80-cracked
90-ascended flow state

[shadow wind]

Yeah pretty much

I'm usually happy with 70+ in any regard

[rustic mountain]

same i jus wanna make 80% more common, i want my play to be even more consistent

[shadow wind]

Whoa what happened in Reg I for me

Oh I think I used mad alts for Reg I

Ah yeah barely 70

Randbats blitz is not my talent I guess

And another 70+ on Reg I bo3

I guess I just neglected my main during Reg I

Jeez I played a lot of accounts in Reg I

[rustic mountain]

ive been doin randbats again recently

not blitz tho

[shadow wind]

Randbats has always intrigued me but I've never gotten fully invested

[rustic mountain]

i was pretty invested a little while back, peaked at 1800s

then proceeded to drop to 1300s

really jus wanted to see if i could get top 500, might try for it again at some point eventually

[shadow wind]

I played it a lot at school when there was nothing else to be doing so I got up to like 1700s but never tried outside of that

I hit 80 gxe in it which is dumb

[rustic mountain]

haha wtf

thats a tough one to hit 80% in

[shadow wind]

I have the screenshot somewhere but it was legit just a random school alt

I don't think I ever even saved the password

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

I feel like I gotta find it now

Back from march of last year

I think I've tanked that account into the ground but at one point it was 80 in randbats

And I know for fact I had to forfeit some games cause I was indeed in school

[rustic mountain]

the name lmao

[shadow wind]

It was making people tilt occasionally so I just kept it

But yeah now it's at 70% gxe

And decayed loads so whatever

Uhm

This team is going for like 17 different things at once

And none of it works together

And it was covert cloak Koraidon...

[solid frigate]

remove Koraidon and its good

[shadow wind]

I just fought for my life against that team

All for 9 elo

All I wanted was top 50 so whatever

[rustic mountain]

it made no sense but had u sweating

[shadow wind]

A guy is using Groudon

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

And lorb proto eterrain bolt is not fun

[rustic mountain]

who tf set e terrain

[shadow wind]

My Miraidon

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

I see Kyogre I bring him

No questions asked

Also they had a super slow Jug

Well maybe not super slow

But my Miraidon outsped

But all I see from today is +15 and +.5 gxe

Can't stop winning lowkey

Man I keep trying to apply for jobs on indeed and some of the ones in my area are so obscure and not remotely doable

Who wants to be a cantonese interpreter

I live in nothern Canada bro I don't think I've even met a person that speaks that

[shadow wind]

Ah heck nah

[shadow wind]

Did 1 more game cause I'm lowkey addicted and won

[solid frigate]

the name lmfao

[shadow wind]

Not a clue what it means

[solid frigate]

well best to not know that

[shadow wind]

Yo I've watched like 4 Groudon games in a row

This is what heaven has to be like

Like how is this a match and I'm not even playing

@strange fjord How does munchteams update? Weekly or something else

[strange fjord]

it used to be daily until my laptop went ka-boom. Now its when I remember, but I forget a lot

[shadow wind]

Oh dang what happened to your laptop?

[solid frigate]

ah yes they love to shove in the perish trap on a team that already got powercrept by the other "Don"

[strange fjord]

it was an old laptop but its battery became a pillow

[shadow wind]

Yikes

Ah well comparing mine to the ones on the site I don't even think I'd be the highest elo Groudon game cause I've been getting downpaired like crazy

Unfortunate

Maybe I am indeed washed

[strange fjord]

im bouta update the sight but it might take over an hour so you might see yourself on it later

[shadow wind]

Well I'll see myself but probably not as the highest elo Groudon game 😔

Heart shattering news

[shadow wind]

Ok now I really gotta stop

About to match into a 1200 cir kyogre and lose 40 elo

[bold geode]

EUIC TIME BABY

[bold geode]

ONE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY THREE COMPETITORS

[forest arrow]

Dang only about 150 no shows that’s crazy

[tranquil kraken]

Anyone from the server competing?

[forest arrow]

Dillon is there

[bold geode]

Dillon and Yotam are both at 1-0 currently, not sure if anyone else from here is there

[tranquil kraken]

nice

There’s more and I’m going too

Good luck Dillon/Yotam <3

[leaden fox]

Definitely wishing luck to them 🙂

[grim plume]

Anyone know what Wolfe is running?

[foggy lodge]

@dense latch Fola peleó contra un chabón que se llama Fynn Deleke (fin de locke)

VGC es una sitcom

[foggy lodge]

https://fxtwitter.com/NimbasaCityPost/status/2022232955566072220

Nimbasa City Post (@NimbasaCityPost)

The distribution code for the Hisuian Typhlosion 🇯🇵 Yuma Kinugawa (@kinurincipall) used to win LAIC 2026 has been revealed! #PlayPokemon
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FxTwitter · Feb 13, 2026, 8:54 AM

[dense latch]

LMAOOO

es cine

[stone trellis]

How's day 1 going?

[foggy lodge]

Amoonguss vs Raging Bolt simulator basically

[stone trellis]

Who's winning?

[foggy lodge]

Amoonguss

[stone trellis]

The shroom or the giraffe?

As expected.

Would Bolt + Amoonguss be unbeatable then?

(I know it's not, don't take this too seriously)

[rustic mountain]

lookin at day 1 useage for top 12
5 from gen 9
3 from gen 8
1 from gen 7
3 from gen 5

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2539017454-29unuuv739o9pds7gmcvurxo3k6hia8pw

[stone trellis]

So gen 5 is kinda cracked.

[rustic mountain]

honestly compared to other older gens, yea off the backs of shroom and the genies

[dense latch]

the genies are def the best legendary trio in vgc right

is it even particularly close unless you count restricted trios

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2539023693-v9xg9x1le9nhe7kuo1juwpvciawj4dapw

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2539035172-aq5v9k7ydq8pkbk0c28jnkusx7wsy62pw

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2539047285-pjrfjoh0x6roxla3cs4hb6ai54pyfxqpw

@forest arrow This team is actually quite good.

Thanks for giving me the sets.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2539051502-3che7bqmew5g1xaudgnmoxsgbv0sgu3pw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2539057867-81ilc8ikjkwvwvfs6fuy96oylo1vog2pw

[forest arrow]

Hell yeah bro glad you mess with it, and of course 🫶🏻

[rustic mountain]

yea idt its even close wat other trio is even relevant

[forest arrow]

I was gonna say the Finis but there’s 4 of them

[stone trellis]

You mean the Tapus?

[forest arrow]

Yeah lol

💀

[foggy lodge]

Koko Fini
Lele Fini
Bulu Fini
Fini Fini

[stone trellis]

Fini^2

[waxen dock]

tapu koko tapu lele rilla tapu fini

[stone trellis]

My favorite Pokemon, Tapu Lele Rilla.

[waxen dock]

rilla is the grass tapu

the 3rd one

[stone trellis]

I know, but the joke would've worked better if you called it Tapu Rilla instead.

[rustic mountain]

the finis sounds like a 50s acapella group

[dense latch]

EUIC teams are out already if anyone is interested

there's a calm mind prim at 8-1

[forest arrow]

Bro I had just got off work, its been a day🤣

[foggy lodge]

Dillon ended 6-3

[forest arrow]

Damn Ggs Dill

[foggy lodge]

C'mon Dillon you can do top 32 still

[forest arrow]

wait 6-3 still in? I thought is was 2?

[foggy lodge]

3 losses means you are out of top cut

But they can still play for points and money

[dense latch]

this team went 7-2 wow

[forest arrow]

Oh then keep goingggg my guy

[foggy lodge]

It must suck so much to play this team I feel like nothing does damage

[next stump]

I played against minimize drifblim with baton pass into dondozo

I went 0 for 12 with fissures into it as well LOL

99% sure fissure ignores evasion

[foggy lodge]

I saw that

It must have sucked so much man it fishes so hard for the MU and hax

[dense latch]

that sounds so disgusting

great run regardless, you still get to play in day two right?

since phase two technically starts today

[stone trellis]

What's the team?

[solid frigate]

It’s fixed accuracy even with the evasion boost

[solid frigate]

But yeah you don’t deserve to lose here tbh

[stone trellis]

So that's what, 1,38%?

That's quite unlucky, not gonna lie.

[next stump]

yes still get to play day 2 🙂

4 more rounds I believe

[warm estuary]

That’s so unlucky

[sudden remnant]

any phenomenonal wins to talk about 🥺

[solid frigate]

You can do it Dillon

Top cut for us

[dense latch]

he's not in contention for top cut anymore

but according to maxi he can top 32

[shadow wind]

I just watched finals for a randbats circuit and man, I don't think I'll ever enjoy randbats

Like the skill expression definitely exists but sometimes the skill expression is gone

[sudden remnant]

hold please while i google what contention means

ah

i thought it was a disagreement

[dense latch]

"in contention" vs "a contention" is the distinction i think

[sudden remnant]

yeah it is

english is sych a lovely language isnt it

“content” “contention” and “in contention” mean 3 completely different things

[dense latch]

learning it as a second language is definitely something
i learn something new like every other day

[foggy lodge]

Fr

[sudden remnant]

im learning japanese (kind of)

[foggy lodge]

Btw Wolfey is running clear amulet tera fire Pao

[sudden remnant]

wait what whats your first language 😭

[dense latch]

spanish

[sudden remnant]

👀 do you have anymore info for me

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[dense latch]

all teams are out already one sec

https://www.pokedata.ovh/standingsVGC/0000172/masters/

[sudden remnant]

i dont have image perms on this acc yet i forgot

[sudden remnant]

naturally incineroar is there, otherwise i 100% fw this team

[foggy lodge]

He is the biggest Incin fan

[dense latch]

i really like it

[sudden remnant]

hows he doing btw

speaking of wolfey

[foggy lodge]

Its super similar to Marco and Dyl's team but

With a different Ogerpon form and Chien-Pao over Ursaluna

[dense latch]

i dont mind the waterpon inclusion torkoal and it feel like parts of very distinct modes

[sudden remnant]

wolfey and incineroar had a crazy enemies to lovers story

[foggy lodge]

7-2

[dense latch]

and if it is brought follow me is enough to hold its weight

i've been using marco sun with a friend

[foggy lodge]

Has to win 3 rounds tomorrow

[sudden remnant]

my goat

[foggy lodge]

Yeah Torkoal is not really like

[dense latch]

to see if it makes me want to pick up reg f

[sudden remnant]

did cerabelli compete? i think i spelt his name wrong

[foggy lodge]

A centric piece of the team obviously its good and puts work for the team but the team doesn't revolve around its sun and setting up entirely

[dense latch]

not this euic iirc he put out a tweet saying he'd sit this one out

[foggy lodge]

Yeah he said he was stressed basically

Its a very stressful tournament tbh

I feel like everyone is stressed dude idk why

[sudden remnant]

what about uhhh i think his name is marko silva?

[foggy lodge]

Like I get its a super important tournament but at the same time the ambient feels heavy

[foggy lodge]

6-3 I think

[sudden remnant]

a lot of players are 7-2 damn

i was looking for marco silvas team and all i saw was a bunch of 7-2

[foggy lodge]

I hope Wolfey wins just because seeing clear amulet tera fire Pao win would be hilarious

[sudden remnant]

hey @next stump do you have that server for Michigan local events i lost my acc and all of my servers 😭 i think it was you who invited me there

[foggy lodge]

Please god let this happen because it would be so fucking funny

[sudden remnant]

i wanna go to a local event this year

[sudden remnant]

whats wrong with tera fire amulet pao

sounds like it should work fine to me

i missed toronto regionals already right?

[foggy lodge]

Nah its just a super unusual set

[shadow wind]

What is fire even resisting

I guess steel and fire?

Oh fairy too

[foggy lodge]

Usually Pao runs sash cuz like its super frail and its defensve typing its awful

[sudden remnant]

and those are all pretty common types arent they?

[foggy lodge]

Sometimes life orb but like you basically only use it if something else needs the sash more

[shadow wind]

Ehh offensively I don't think steel is super common

[foggy lodge]

And tera ghost/tera stellar cuz of fake out/extreme speed inmunity and boosting its damage

[sudden remnant]

one smack with an open palm and it would drop (force palm)

[foggy lodge]

Tera ice and dark has also been seen cuz of the same reason as stellar

[sudden remnant]

doesnt pao usually run either sash or lorb

[shadow wind]

😔

[sudden remnant]

ah lmao

didnt even see that

[shadow wind]

Holy moly steam sale

[sudden remnant]

what could possibly need the sash more than chipao

[foggy lodge]

CSR

[sudden remnant]

i dont have embed perms but insert neuron activated meme here

[shadow wind]

My favourite fairy type

[foggy lodge]

Some CSR comps have used sash and let the Pao hold the life orb

[sudden remnant]

is this a joke about its tera type?

[foggy lodge]

Which is like playing backwards as to how you usually use those two

With Pao running the sash and CSR life orb

[shadow wind]

Nah it's just my favourite fairy type

[sudden remnant]

but its not a fairy type-

[shadow wind]

Honestly I'd rather deal with CSR zama than bolt balance

But maybe that's just me

[foggy lodge]

Hell nah

CSR balance > Bolt balance > CSR Zama balance

[shadow wind]

Bolt balance is so unfun

[foggy lodge]

We should combine both

[shadow wind]

CSR zama gets killed by like 1-2 good turns

[sudden remnant]

i hate csr in general id much prefer use cir and i dont even like trick room

[foggy lodge]

Nasty plot CSR with calm mind raging bolt and incin rilla

[shadow wind]

Throw a clef in there

[foggy lodge]

Maybe we get spicy and use Smeargle

[sudden remnant]

and incineroar smeargle

[sudden remnant]

LMAO we had the same thought

[foggy lodge]

Smeargle supremacy

[shadow wind]

I dislike smeargle very strongly

Especially the Groudon CIR smeargle teams

[sudden remnant]

fuck that… rat? weasel? dog? what the hell even is smeargle

[shadow wind]

Smeargle is a dog

[foggy lodge]

I think the only mon I actively dislike is Alolan Ninetales LOL

[foggy lodge]

Its a french dog

[shadow wind]

Smear-beagle

[foggy lodge]

So its evil because of how it plays but also because of being french

[sudden remnant]

i hate smeargle and amoongus. brute bonnet is okay though

[foggy lodge]

Evil^2

[shadow wind]

So true

[sudden remnant]

i knew i hated it. just had to be french

[foggy lodge]

But yeah so

[shadow wind]

Honestly though smeargle can be such a non-issue

[foggy lodge]

Tera fire clam pao is wild

[sudden remnant]

i remember a mon that wants the sash more than pao now. smeargle…..

[dense latch]

guess we’ll have to wait 5 months for the video to figure out the reason

[sudden remnant]

i will be waiting eagerly

[shadow wind]

Champions will be out by then 😔

[sudden remnant]

chat when is/was toronto regionals

[shadow wind]

I don't remember the last time I watches a vgc youtube video

[bold geode]

I will not take the slander of you saying CSR Zama is worse than Bolt Balance

[shadow wind]

I think they mean to play against

Uhh maybe

[sudden remnant]

found the bolt balance player 😭

[bold geode]

I played CSR Zam and the mirrors were not nearly as bad as Bolt Balance mirrors

[bold geode]

Ew no

[sudden remnant]

😝

wsg gang long time no see

[shadow wind]

1 in a krillion type beat

Honestly CSR Zama is not that bad to play against compared to other teams

[bold geode]

CSR Zam maybe came down to a speed tie every now and then
Bolt Balance is just a clusterfuck of mindgames and 50/50s

[foggy lodge]

Ok but I didn't play CSR Zama mirrors

[sudden remnant]

yall hate me or smthn 🫠

[foggy lodge]

I still disliked it

[foggy lodge]

For me Bolt balance mirrors are not as bad

[sudden remnant]

i asked like three times when toronto regionals is/was 😔

[bold geode]

I am a filthy CSR Zam player and I'm not sorry

[bold geode]

Almost a month ago

[foggy lodge]

I am the filthy Bolt balance player

[bold geode]

You should be sorry low-key

[shadow wind]

I'm a filthy Groudon player 😔 😔 😔

[sudden remnant]

i play zamazenta but i hate csr csr is not fun for me

[bold geode]

I'm sorry for you

[shadow wind]

I'm sorry this is how you guys found out

[sudden remnant]

my main reg I team was white kyurem

[bold geode]

You just hate CSR cuz he stacks paper to the ceiling and rides on 24 inch chromes

[sudden remnant]

i hate him cuz its so damn frail i cant do shit with it

white kyurem with AV goes crazy though

[bold geode]

Position your horse like a real motherfucker

[molten oasis]

[shadow wind]

What's positioning 🤪

[bold geode]

Also the horse actually isn't THAT frail contrary to popular belief

[molten oasis]

CSR’s actually decently bulky if you build it right

[sudden remnant]

isnt my archetype just called blizzard spam

[molten oasis]

100 hp and spD is very respectable

[shadow wind]

Bro has better physical bulk than Kyogre

Wait I capped

[bold geode]

100/80/100 isn't completely horrible
It's just looked at as more frail cuz of its two double weaknesses and cuz it's not as fat as Ice Rider

[shadow wind]

90 is not 80

[sudden remnant]

me when i spread misinformation

[molten oasis]

Lots of teams have incin too so you can manage the physical attackers

[bold geode]

Y'know what pisses me off
Kyogre max HP is one point away from another terrain recovery bump

[shadow wind]

That's so fire

[bold geode]

The way it'd work it would be 192 and 208

Kyogre max HP is 207

[molten oasis]

Pain

[bold geode]

And it makes me salty
Not cuz of Kyogre
But cuz Rillaboom shares the exact same base HP with Kyogre

[sudden remnant]

chat is a snow archetype team just called blizzard spam 😔

[molten oasis]

Yes

[shadow wind]

Yes

[molten oasis]

Cuz that’s all it does, blizzard spam

[bold geode]

So Rillaboom max HP is one point away from being more optimal

[sudden remnant]

thats my archetype 😝 although im more likely to click fusion flare

[bold geode]

And it makes me angy

[bold geode]

Snow outside of Reg F was very ass ngl

[molten oasis]

Yep

I’ve tried kyurem and have had moderate success but it’s not that good

[sudden remnant]

idk i managed just fine

[foggy lodge]

I mean reg H technically

[bold geode]

I'd say Reg H but like
There was only one snow Mon

[sudden remnant]

thanks to @stone trellis for my evs on my white kyurem

[gentle crag]

naganohara_vexae has given 1 Gen Rep to skywarsveteran1607

[bold geode]

Does it count if the team isn't revolved around snow

[foggy lodge]

I played double weather in the end of reg H

Such a cool tesm I loved it

[bold geode]

Cuz that's why I don't count Reg H
You kinda just got snow and blizzard spam from using A9 which honestly was there for other reasons

Reg F you have Articuno which is more snow centric

[shadow wind]

Articuno stall 😔

[bold geode]

Snow players in Reg F finally getting to use Articuno again (their Blizzards actually hit for shit)

That's why I never vibed with A9 in Reg H
You literally only attacked with A9 either for the RNG or cuz there was SE damage to be had

Me personally I also like my supports to be able to do some respectable damage to certain things when need be

Only exception is Incineroar but he honestly does that anyways

[foggy lodge]

Nah four support moves Jumpluff go go gadget

[shadow wind]

4 moves support mons kill me

[bold geode]

Honestly that's why I play Ogerpon so much and it's why I'm kinda excited and hoping Mega Clefable is good

I love redirectors that can do fat damage

[shadow wind]

Same with Farig

Foul play is very peak

[bold geode]

I played Farig for a bit in Reg F but I kinda realized that Farigiraf doesn't really beat Bolt Balance as consistent as you'd think

[shadow wind]

Yeah nah it gets smoked out by 3 turns of damage

But against the horses it's so insane

And Miraidon Farig lead is my brainrot

[foggy lodge]

Miraidon whimsi lead switch to Farig to dodge fake out switch to whimsi to encore fake out switch to Farig again to block another fake out

[bold geode]

It's not horrible
But like either you use it to support or you use Throat Spray and using Throat Spray Farigiraf is honestly kinda finicky

[shadow wind]

So true

[sudden remnant]

imagine saying this to someone pre-gen 9 theyd call you crazy

[foggy lodge]

Someone in gen 9 would still call them crazy

[sudden remnant]

touché

[shadow wind]

Someone in gen 9 is crazy

[sudden remnant]

everyone in gen 9 is crazy

[bold geode]

Like with Throat Spray Farigiraf you REALLY have to be mindful of how consistently you can pull off the boost setup
Cuz by God without that shit Farigiraf as a special attacking sweeper fucking sucks

[shadow wind]

Truth nuke

[sudden remnant]

i wish we had offensive terrain seeds

[bold geode]

I remember I used Helping Hand with it just to be able to get boosted Hyper Voice damage before the Spray activated

[shadow wind]

They should do that for weathers

Nah actually weathers are broken already

[sudden remnant]

PLEASE NO 😭

[shadow wind]

And yknow what? Nerf rain

[sudden remnant]

says the sun player

[shadow wind]

Uh

Well yeah

[bold geode]

Now I've just put myself in a binding vow with Gholdengo
That fuck ass Pokemon

[shadow wind]

But rain has so much going for it

[sudden remnant]

i didnt finish my joke

says the sun player to the rain and snow player

[bold geode]

Honestly @foggy lodge can I trade and let people have access to Incineroar in Champions just so I don't have to deal with Gholdengo

What do I gotta trade for no Gholdengo

[shadow wind]

Primal Groudon

[bold geode]

Fuck it

[foggy lodge]

No

I prefer none💔

[bold geode]

I have Rayquaza experience that will actually come into use in Champions

Eh who am I kidding
I'm totally using CSR Zam again

[shadow wind]

I'm totally using

[foggy lodge]

mr creative

[shadow wind]

I don't need to say it anymore

[dense latch]

av mega ray looks so sick but im scared of getting glacial lanced to death

[bold geode]

I know I'm breaking the meta

[foggy lodge]

champions is gonna release and monke is gonna crash out cuz incin dengo amoonguss are not in the builder anymore

[shadow wind]

Wide guard !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bold geode]

How much does Mega Ray take from that actually

[foggy lodge]

Maybe you can survive one

[shadow wind]

300%

[bold geode]

Cuz technically Mega Ray is taking it only for 2x damage

[sudden remnant]

im gonna be using rain in champions for sure

[bold geode]

Cuz Delta Stream removes a weakness

[foggy lodge]

Yeah it nullifies the flying weaknesses

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah that's true but I don't think I've seen a mon with than 100/100 ever survive se glacial

[foggy lodge]

Nah you are not living it LMAO

[shadow wind]

Wait he got bulk??

[foggy lodge]

It doesn't really have that much bulk

[dense latch]

oh wait yea delta stream

[dense latch]

but it's still going down i fear

[bold geode]

I mean
Honestly I think Mega Ray could probably survive ONE

[shadow wind]

My Miraidon has survived it

[foggy lodge]

Amoonguss survives it barely and having to ev specifically to live it

While being a defensive mon by nature

[shadow wind]

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Rayquaza-Mega in Strong Winds: 200-236 (111.1 - 131.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[bold geode]

Also like
Deadass ain't it some shit
Just the fact that Mega Ray doesn't have to hold a Mega Stone
Like wtf

[shadow wind]

He's awesome so he's allowed to

[dense latch]

i saw wolfe's team from that one 2019 ic with his mega ray evs but i forgot where i got it from

[shadow wind]

Lowkey Primal Groudon should be allowed to hold an av

[sudden remnant]

idk if im gonna use primal kyogre in champs tho i wanna use my mega mawile instead

[bold geode]

Like oh yeah you can have this fuckin behemoth and all you gotta do is let it learn Flying type Close Combat like yeah ok

[shadow wind]

Why did I not know guy had 105 hp

[bold geode]

Then there's Koraidon that's out of a job LMFAO

[shadow wind]

I use to pray for days like this

[dense latch]

36+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rayquaza-Mega in Strong Winds: 176-210 (83 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

best case if cir starts leaning into bulkier sets bc of no tera

[shadow wind]

I feel like with that calc though they'll run more atk

[foggy lodge]

Lowkey is CIR gonna be a hard TR mon if there's no tera

[bold geode]

Bro it's so funny
Not only are the primals bad for it but Rayquaza is actually gonna be decent at minimum and deadass this gen Rayquaza had like literally one good quality

And that was the fact that it shit on Koraidon

[stone trellis]

Mirai lives it by 252 HP / 20 Def.

[shadow wind]

Depends on the cir but yeah

[dense latch]

116+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 252 HP / 20 Def Rayquaza-Mega in Strong Winds: 182-216 (85.8 - 101.8%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

[sudden remnant]

hey paul

[stone trellis]

Hi.

[dense latch]

mega ray has insane offensive stats already you can kinda give it some extra bulk and still be fine

[stone trellis]

Yeah, the guy's only problem is Miraidon.

I calced it, Mirai literally won't die to anything MRay can throw at it in one shot.

[dense latch]

iirc wolfey ran hasty mega ray

[stone trellis]

Also, why are we all acting like MRay can't just hold a Focus Sash or something?

[foggy lodge]

My favourite thing from primals meta was when they didn't mega evolve Rayquaza to OHKO Groudon with waterfall LMAO

It was what Wolfey won worlds with

[stone trellis]

That was not what he used to win Worlds.

It wasn't using Waterfall and it was Jolly, not Hasty.

Hasty was for NAIC.

(I think)

[dense latch]

that clip was from some other round in 2016 worlds but yea that was full physical mega ray