#competitive_discussion

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shadow wind
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Like that's some cool stuff

rustic mountain
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how? desolate land overrides it

forest arrow
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Koraidon weezing team

shadow wind
rustic mountain
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?

shadow wind
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Does it work like that in any game?

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Are they able to interact yet?

rustic mountain
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dude they r not gna make hydro steam bypass desolate land hahahha

shadow wind
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On the off chance

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I will hold my breath until I see it

forest arrow
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I don’t see why protosynthesis wouldn’t proc

rustic mountain
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"yes these past mons can somehow override the ancient being who literally controls land itself"

shadow wind
forest arrow
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Hmm that’s wild

rustic mountain
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that is weird

shadow wind
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Which I know showdown is just making assumptions but I won't believe anything until I see it in champions

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Well technically it isn't harsh sunlight

rustic mountain
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idk i havent played in those formats but i wonder if swift swim activates w/ primal ogre

forest arrow
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I think proto will proc

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But hydro steam will still evaporate

shadow wind
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And I don't think Koraidon even gets his attack buff

forest arrow
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just my guess

shadow wind
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I'd guess that's how it'll work

rustic mountain
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makes the most sense to me

shadow wind
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But I will always have a pocket gastrodon just in case

rustic mountain
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gta throw in a bad mon there somewhere

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classic

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oh i have xern and groudon lemme pick gastro

shadow wind
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Exactly

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It's actually hard to pick a team of mine that doesn't have a throw pick

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Might be something I need to change

forest arrow
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Tree you have an idea yet of who you wanna try

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Mega wise when champions comes

rustic mountain
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exca and mence

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idk wat else yet

shadow wind
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Exca will be cool to see

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Until they cook it with mold breaker

forest arrow
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Exca seems cool asf, I’m gonna play the Tried and true cause I never played during that time besides casually

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Kanga

rustic mountain
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yea thats a good one

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gengar id like to look into as well

shadow wind
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I'm interested to see a certain dragon

forest arrow
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I hope Bax does well

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Really like absol Z but it’ll prob be bad

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It’s too frail

shadow wind
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Mr. 216 seems like it could do something

rustic mountain
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honestly like i really gta wait and see wat the dex is for the first format, kinda depends wats available for partner options for wat id wanna try

shadow wind
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But then it could also do nothing

forest arrow
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For sure

rustic mountain
forest arrow
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Same bro it’s waiting in the box

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pls be good

rustic mountain
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im currently on dozo giri hunt rn

dense latch
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the shiny itself makes it 100% worth it

forest arrow
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I even have an alpha raichu waiting

shadow wind
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Mega Heatran is someone I got my eyes on

rustic mountain
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mega heatran prolly gna b goated

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if they give it earth eater? whew

dense latch
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absol z’s shiny looks so good one of if not my fav shiny mega

forest arrow
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Can’t wait to see his ability

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Earth eater will be crazy

rustic mountain
shadow wind
rustic mountain
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i think dnite mega shiny is also top tier

forest arrow
lofty tartan
dense latch
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its regular shiny is one i actually kinda like but it always should’ve been like the mega

shadow wind
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Should we be worried about mega luc z?

dense latch
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im not worried

rustic mountain
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i like the shiny as is but yea the mega one is definitely super good

shadow wind
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Mega luc z with focus blast next to gravity sableye

rustic mountain
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would i dislike them just makin that the regular? nah but i think the green gets a lot of flack wen it isnt really bad at all

rustic mountain
shadow wind
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😔 😔

forest arrow
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All 3 of them suck

shadow wind
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Why does it keep putting 2

rustic mountain
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chomp is abysmal

dense latch
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but i think it might be too early to judge since not that many pokemon can be considered insane in a vacuum but rather the metagame which surrounds it

forest arrow
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How do you fail Garchomp twice bro

shadow wind
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I think I'm clicking tab too quick

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Anyway

dense latch
rustic mountain
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mega chomp z sucks tho no matter what

forest arrow
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The anticipation is killing me lol

lofty tartan
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His poor sandwiches

forest arrow
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17 days left

shadow wind
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Mega crab have any sauce?

lofty tartan
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Crab sauce

rustic mountain
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dont get ur hopes up yall we may not get any champion news on pokemon day hahah

forest arrow
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for Pokémon day for some news**

rustic mountain
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like its likely but not guaranteed

forest arrow
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Yeah I’m not I should’ve added the end there first

dense latch
forest arrow
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I would just like any news, we’ve been in the dark for a little while

lofty tartan
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Don't bet on it GarooFingerGuns

shadow wind
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Why did they give mega pikachu y 160 spatk

rustic mountain
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we should get news, id like some news but its been a year w/ radio silence its getting ridiculous

shadow wind
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Wait it's mega raichu

forest arrow
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Like come on man, the people are tired of SV let it go

shadow wind
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Why did they make them look like pikachu

rustic mountain
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no reason to have to wait a whole year unless they fucked up and delayed it and dont wanna say anything

dense latch
rustic mountain
lofty tartan
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I'm just waiting and taking it as it comes, man

rustic mountain
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yea

dense latch
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but if we don’t get news on pokemon day when will we

unless they back out on the whole worlds 26 on champions thing

rustic mountain
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i really think they intended to already have it out at this point

shadow wind
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It kinda feels like it

rustic mountain
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so the lack of followup is them scrambling to get some sort of finished product to present for like late spring release

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if they do give us news for pokemon day

rustic mountain
# shadow wind It kinda feels like it

timeline wise to match up w/ lza and the dlc release i would assume they wanted a mid jan-early feb release as to give ppl time to acquire mons play the games and holiday sales etc

shadow wind
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Ah nah I just realized if they make you gather all the mons I'm screwed for the plza mons

rustic mountain
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otherwise why tell us about champions so far before its release? its not really building hype atm its killing it (more the lack of information on their end about the game itself outside the basics we were shown that led to more speculation then anything)

rustic mountain
forest arrow
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And like what if all the hype for it to flop

rustic mountain
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it doesnt have to be outside the game

shadow wind
rustic mountain
forest arrow
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Very true

dense latch
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ONE MILLION MORE REGULATION RERUNS FOR VGC PLAYERS ‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥🔥

take away cart ladder and be very mysterious about the biggest news for vgc players in a WHILE fuck them

rustic mountain
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i dont mind them taking longer, i just wish theyd take accountability and just own up to making mistakes and give us more clarified info in the meantime

forest arrow
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How do they make something work well between switch and phone tho, like I feel like that’s gotta be some reason for the issues there

rustic mountain
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definitely

shadow wind
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They're trying to figure out how to make it run on the switch 2 and not a console that will be made in 30 years

forest arrow
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should’ve just been a switch thing

shadow wind
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Because game optimization is dead

rustic mountain
shadow wind
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I don't want CIR rain teams to follow me around on MY PHONE

forest arrow
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Oh for sure, take you’re phone to a regional and you’re good? That sounds fire for sure I’m not hating on the idea

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Just seems like a complicated feat

rustic mountain
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worst case, vgc defaults back to mainline, best case champions becomes the hub and sd equivalent that weve all wanted for years as the game expands far beyond wat its at now

dense latch
shadow wind
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Desolate land? More like my phone about to explode from the 4 3d models and rain

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Perfect for Groudon

forest arrow
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Incineroar intim procs phone drops 20% battery life

shadow wind
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Parting shot makes your ringer go off

forest arrow
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Knock off makes your opponent fall out of their seat

shadow wind
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And I think astral barrage should just send an email out to your workplace

dense latch
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dynamax power comes directly from your battery 🔥

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kinda how like lamps in videogames use real life electricity

shadow wind
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Imagine losing on champions at an event and your opponent just airdrops an image of Incin

rustic mountain
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the funny thing is if they let ppl play w/ phones at tours

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like do they gta go airplane mode? how will that work

shadow wind
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True yeah

dense latch
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do no disturb i guess

shadow wind
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Would be extremely hard to monitor

dense latch
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tho i don’t think it fully shuts off

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idk how they do it for pokemon go

rustic mountain
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do no disturb? how do ik ur not listening to some1 playcall from close by on ur headphones

dense latch
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but in a game like vgc the info you can get through just a message is much more valuable

shadow wind
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Pokemon go is less decision heavy so I think it wouldn't matter

forest arrow
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You just tap a screen honestly

shadow wind
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Real

forest arrow
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Way different from a text telling you what to do

rustic mountain
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pogo is fast idt ppl watching is gna help much

dense latch
rustic mountain
shadow wind
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You time out cause your mom is spam calling

forest arrow
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Lmao

dense latch
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but yea it seems basically impossible to regulate without some HEAVY monitoring which is just not feasible

shadow wind
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I would be the biggest ipad kid if I ever attended

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Bring the whole tablet

rustic mountain
forest arrow
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Maybe on the phone it’s just a hub and battling is only done on switch

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cause I don’t see how they pull that off

shadow wind
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That would limit accessibility for sure but it would be a lot easier

shadow wind
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Lowkey I'd mess with it

forest arrow
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Yeah that’s an idea

dense latch
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mobile champions could just be gateway for people to start playing vgc in an accessible way before fully diving in with switches

forest arrow
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Like you can buy and work on teams on your phone and stuff

rustic mountain
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or battling at irls is just switch only, get ppl hooked on the phone to want to invest to get a switch to compete at irls

forest arrow
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True that works too

dense latch
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still a huge upgrade from now

forest arrow
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Regionals are switch only type deals

shadow wind
forest arrow
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Oh nvm I see what you’re saying I’m dumb haha

rustic mountain
shadow wind
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Oh don't worry I have

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There was a very clear reason I skipped out on plza

dense latch
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man i havent played za in a while

rustic mountain
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also def something im sure they r considering w/ champions for wat it can do $ wise even just tour attendence itself let alone other games being bought

dense latch
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the hyperspace thing really burnt me out

forest arrow
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It was fun and I liked the new formula but I really only shiny hunt now for comp stuff

rustic mountain
dense latch
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i heard shiny hunting was fun tho

forest arrow
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it sucks so bad

rustic mountain
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i jus wanna get the rest of my mega targets and be done w/ it

shadow wind
forest arrow
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I liked it the first week

rustic mountain
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base game? amazing
dlc? horrendous

dense latch
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the only thing that got me through it is that i went in spoiler free so i got to see the new megas

forest arrow
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Same I think that’s what was so hype for me

dense latch
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other than that, thirty bucks im never getting back

rustic mountain
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got the 5 shiny legends tho

forest arrow
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Let’s go bro

dense latch
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at least they didn’t shiny lock them

forest arrow
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Yeah for once lol

rustic mountain
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no they just locked the other legends instead

forest arrow
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Latis are actually pretty good sometimes too

rustic mountain
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terrakions been ok

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but yea i just figured if i was goin for some might as well go for all, especially w/ the odds being wat they r and apriballs being plentiful

dense latch
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i loved shiny hunting during the pandemic it’s something i wanna pick back up

rustic mountain
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and u never know, 1 different mechanic or specific meta and 1 of them becomes good somehow

shadow wind
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Like adding an orb that is of the red variety

forest arrow
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true

shadow wind
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Might make a very special pokemon ever so slightly better

rustic mountain
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conner i worry about ur obsession w/ groudon

shadow wind
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Sometimes I look at the screen and wonder "is this too far"?

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Then I look around my room and see the Groudons littered around

rustic mountain
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talking about shiny hunting
conner: how do i insert groudon into the convo

shadow wind
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I did shiny hunt for many a Groudon

forest arrow
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I got one from Go awhile back

rustic mountain
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i got 1 from das

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but thats beside the point

shadow wind
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Although I need another shiny Groudon

forest arrow
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Am I crazy to prefer the red

rustic mountain
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i gotta hunt some stuff in das still

rustic mountain
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i just like the flex

shadow wind
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I was dumb and changed the name of the first 2 so I need a 3rd with no name change

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I liked the yellow with Miraidon

forest arrow
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Don’t we all haha

shadow wind
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But generally yeah the red is better

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Although shiny primal

rustic mountain
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as great as kyogres shiny is, i think i like its base form a bit better too

forest arrow
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Cause idk if this is a hot take but I like incins black more too

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oh yeah I prefer the blue too

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The shiny is definitely great tho

rustic mountain
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its awesome

forest arrow
shadow wind
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I will refrain

forest arrow
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Don’t they both turn black?

rustic mountain
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the whites a lot different but the black fits it better

shadow wind
rustic mountain
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its sick

shadow wind
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So like Groudon gets some yellow stuff and Kyogre gets some pink

forest arrow
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will definitely use shiny groudon then if we ever get primals

shadow wind
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You mean WHEN !

forest arrow
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Just don’t want to get ahead of myself

shadow wind
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I cannot live the rest of my life without witnessing him

rustic mountain
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yea itll b prolly like mid 2027 if i were to guess

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tho id like them to wait till 2028 and have time for things to breathe w/ lower power formats

forest arrow
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I really would like that too

dense latch
forest arrow
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Give me time to play without Tera and learn the lower power formats first

rustic mountain
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real

dense latch
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4x over odds iirc

forest arrow
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Series 1 just went away to fast

shadow wind
rustic mountain
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i did masuda (and charm) in swsh b4 ability patches had like 4 shiny littens non ha b4 getting it hahaha

dense latch
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i think i’ll have fun with no tera

rustic mountain
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dude its gna b amazing

forest arrow
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I got a Charcadet through mesuda in like 300 eggs

rustic mountain
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nice

dense latch
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im trying really hard not to segue this into series 10 for the millionth time

shadow wind
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I can't wait for no tera

rustic mountain
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erik, its never too many times to mention series 10

shadow wind
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Was that the no dynamax one?

dense latch
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yea

rustic mountain
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single restricted no dmax yea

forest arrow
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How was that?

rustic mountain
shadow wind
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Sounds peak

rustic mountain
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best format ive ever played

forest arrow
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Damn I missed peak

rustic mountain
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i think it was like only a fuckin month too lmao 2 max

shadow wind
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The couple oms I've played that banned tera have been the best experiences of my life

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Even if they were singles

rustic mountain
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i wouldve liked that

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especially now w/ the formats being different then irls

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just make cart ladder no tera w/e format

forest arrow
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Koraidon is dead

rustic mountain
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cool

shadow wind
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Erik did you ever end up playing any full potential?

dense latch
shadow wind
dense latch
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i do remember it feeling way shorter tho

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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oh wow i misremembered

shadow wind
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Groudon my beloved

forest arrow
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It’s okay I’ll just use CIR

rustic mountain
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3 months just wasnt enough

shadow wind
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And bro HAS to stay an ice type?????

forest arrow
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And my pocket Pelipper

shadow wind
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Sounds like torture

dense latch
shadow wind
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Gholdengo will cook

rustic mountain
shadow wind
rustic mountain
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csr too, theyll still b good tho moreso csr

dense latch
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i used ice rider in series 10 for a bit

rustic mountain
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a lot of things get worse w/o tera tbh

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kyogre gets a lot better

shadow wind
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I think in a vacuum Groudon gets worse but in the meta he'd do way better

rustic mountain
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koraidon gna b tough

dense latch
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i made a team report for it on r/VGC lmao very cringey to reread

forest arrow
dense latch
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no more tera or no tera 50/50s 😭

forest arrow
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My fav mon washed

rustic mountain
shadow wind
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Exactly

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But having stab heat crash was nice

rustic mountain
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idt thats a big deal relative to everything else

shadow wind
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Was the easiest way to ohko CSR but I doubt it would matter that much

rustic mountain
forest arrow
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Plus like the anti meta Yveltal still has flying stab

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Koraidon is cooked

shadow wind
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Yveltal 😔

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My glorious king

rustic mountain
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oh right xern being back, yea koraidon is fried

dense latch
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wdym i’ll be to hit csr with a dark move and it’ll actually be weak to it 🤯

rustic mountain
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exactly

shadow wind
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The unassuming follow me clefairy

forest arrow
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Yeah what’s a Fluttermane? Xern is gonna be everywhere

shadow wind
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Goltres come to me !

forest arrow
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Oh god

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Xern Chi Yu

shadow wind
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Or just Xern Flutter

rustic mountain
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flutter still will b good but xern is obviously the superior fairy type. flutter is prolly if u dont want xern for watever reason but want fairy coverage/speed control

shadow wind
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Fairy aura is stupid

rustic mountain
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i think too like, covert cloak will gain a bit more use w/ tera ghost being out the window now. not that it was a huge thing but something ppl did use from time to time

shadow wind
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Groudon + Ho oh will be my Xerneas answer !

forest arrow
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Does it boost partners fairy moves too?

shadow wind
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All on the field

tiny karmaBOT
forest arrow
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Oh damn

shadow wind
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Wait

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No yeah that's right

forest arrow
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What’s Yveltals?

shadow wind
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Same but dark

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It's like terrain that can't ever be removed

forest arrow
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Ahh okay

rustic mountain
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yea

shadow wind
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Lowkey really stupid

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No wonder misty terrain doesn't boost fairy moves

forest arrow
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That’s gotta be why

rustic mountain
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all i know is, iron hands can 1hko mega beedril w/ fake out

shadow wind
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😭

forest arrow
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😅

shadow wind
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+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Groudon-Primal: 129-153 (73.7 - 87.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Hey wait hold on

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What happened to my resist

rustic mountain
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it doesnt matter

forest arrow
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Damn that’s wild

rustic mountain
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also no investment groudon

shadow wind
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Well yeah I'm 252 252 adamant

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Cause that's how I run every Groudon

rustic mountain
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252 atk and speed?

shadow wind
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Of course

rustic mountain
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bruh

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werent u just running leftovers bulk up

shadow wind
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Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 132 HP / 76 Atk / 28 Def / 252 SpD / 20 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Precipice Blades
  • Heat Crash
  • Bulk Up
  • Protect
forest arrow
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I thought you had a like a super specially bulky groudon set

forest arrow
shadow wind
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Guys this guy would die to Kyogre in the sun without special bulk 😔

rustic mountain
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lmao

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i was boutta say too weve talked about bulky groudon sets

shadow wind
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Honestly that is my favourite Groudon set I've ever made

forest arrow
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Gotta eat astral barrages too

shadow wind
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+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 132 HP / 252 SpD Groudon: 201-237 (104.6 - 123.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Well I'm glad this guy doesn't exist right now

forest arrow
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wtf dude

shadow wind
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252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 132 HP / 252 SpD Groudon: 76-91 (39.5 - 47.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

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Just never let him see a lorb

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Still dies to specs Miraidon draco also

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+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Ho-Oh: 82-97 (45.3 - 53.5%) -- 41% chance to 2HKO

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Also this is what legendary players do

rustic mountain
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they dont run ho oh

shadow wind
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Devastating news

bold geode
rustic mountain
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it had 1 run

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that was cool tho

shadow wind
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My goat Groudon never hit a top 4 😔

bold geode
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I am obligated to say ho Oh got that far

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Fuck that fuck ass bird

rustic mountain
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lmao

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i was running rockpon for the ho oh mu

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cuz i had csr zama

shadow wind
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This was the best I ever ate

forest arrow
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Idk for me Lunala Koraidon pressured it one way or another

rustic mountain
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it was good in other mus too but that was the main reason

rustic mountain
shadow wind
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I can't believe Lunala would so easily switch to another don

rustic mountain
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it knew wen to trade in, unlike some ppl

forest arrow
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Hey they tried to rename it after Groudon too

shadow wind
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So true

forest arrow
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But I pushed the name Koala hard in the reg I chat

shadow wind
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My goat inspired the modern generation

shadow wind
rustic mountain
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what a tragic tale

shadow wind
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You don't ask coach to play in the olympics

rustic mountain
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then yd u put him in

shadow wind
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Coach had one more good run in him

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In my eyes

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In my mind we're still in gen 3

rustic mountain
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gen 3 the best

shadow wind
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So true

forest arrow
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Can’t beat it

shadow wind
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Lowkey too much water

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- Groudon

rustic mountain
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no

shadow wind
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Why can't I make a dash

rustic mountain
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idk

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i noticed that the other day

shadow wind
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Gross but fixed

rustic mountain
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great starter trio, great legend trio, solid story, great regional atmosphere (dive mechanic was so dope) using braille code to solve regi puzzles,

shadow wind
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And then the remakes were also peak

forest arrow
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Only thing is I’m not the biggest fan of Wally

rustic mountain
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i didnt play them

forest arrow
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May makes it okay tho

shadow wind
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I've heard great things about the delta episode

forest arrow
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Oras was beautiful def reccomended

shadow wind
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Gen 6 rivals 😔

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I love that game to pieces but man

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We did not need 25 different "rivals"

rustic mountain
forest arrow
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Dude fr

rustic mountain
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i forgot about him i thought u were talkin about wallace

shadow wind
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That's how bad he was

rustic mountain
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damn shoutout wally tho his backstory is sad af

forest arrow
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Forgotten rival lol

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yeah his backstory is sad tho

shadow wind
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And he was in the battle tree in USUM right?

rustic mountain
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i vaguely remember wally but only after lookin him up

forest arrow
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It’s just any of his battles you kind of just run him over

shadow wind
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He feels like how the newer rivals feel

rustic mountain
shadow wind
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Except Nemona, Nemona had hands

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But Hop and Hau were....

forest arrow
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I liked Gladion

rustic mountain
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nemona was cool

shadow wind
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Me too but he wasn't the main rival

forest arrow
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If you can count him as one

shadow wind
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Which is why I don't dog on wally too bad cause he wasn't the main rival

rustic mountain
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the friend rival dynamic in lza was solid

shadow wind
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I wish I lost to her though

rustic mountain
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especially as ur rivals in the za royale turn out to all b ppl u befriend in a sense

forest arrow
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oh yeah for sure, I loved them all

shadow wind
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But childrens game so whatever

rustic mountain
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it was a cool difference from other games where theres no clear cut villian either

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like person wise

forest arrow
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Corbeau my beloved

rustic mountain
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hahah

shadow wind
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Rest in peace the masked royale 😔

rustic mountain
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hes villianous but not a villian id say

shadow wind
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You were a pioneer king

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Lowkey alola was heat

forest arrow
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Yeah I knew he had a heart of gold

rustic mountain
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the whole syndicate storyline w/ hyperspace lumiose was a bit weird tho

forest arrow
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Little stinker

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Yeah I don’t see how he connected to it in any way

rustic mountain
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like why these guys this seems like something u wouldnt outsource hahaha even tho they can b trusted idk it just felt forced

forest arrow
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And jeez man so repetitive

rustic mountain
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it is so fuckin repetitive

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and dont get me started on the donut rng

shadow wind
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So was the lza dlc just bad?

rustic mountain
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overall? yea

bold geode
#

Y'know Tree I just thought about something

rustic mountain
#

base game was awesome

bold geode
#

Gojo's Hollow Purple was an imaginary technique

forest arrow
#

It was pretty bad, I enjoyed it the first week, then it got stale

rustic mountain
bold geode
#

Why didn't Toji imagine it wasn't coming at him

rustic mountain
#

cuz it happened so fast

forest arrow
#

Definitely loved base game, lowkey in my top 5 oal

rustic mountain
#

lmao he ripped it at him in an instant

shadow wind
#

I mean I loved pla so maybe someday I'll get it

rustic mountain
#

highkey

#

also if u remember

#

toji did sense it, he just chose to ignore it

bold geode
rustic mountain
#

hes like somethings wrong

bold geode
#

Honestly the one attack I don't blame someone for dodging is that Fire Force scene where the dude shoved a nuke in that girls face

forest arrow
#

Movie 0?

rustic mountain
#

wow no fire force spoilrs

#

i havent watched/read

forest arrow
#

I only watched S1 is definitely a good one, I need to finish that

rustic mountain
#

yea i wanna watch it

bold geode
#

Didn't they start doing S3?

shadow wind
#

||Legend of Zelda spoilers, Zelda is Sheik||

#

Spoilers guys watch out

forest arrow
#

Is season 3 still releasing episodes?

rustic mountain
#

conner weird

bold geode
#

Endgame spoiler: Batman kisses Harry Potter

rustic mountain
#

i knew u were gna do some b.s lmao

shadow wind
forest arrow
rustic mountain
#

yea its s3 iirc

shadow wind
#

I'm feeling quite unserious currently

rustic mountain
#

u always are

bold geode
#

Remember when you could just ragebait people by saying Endgame spoiler and then saying just some weird bullshit

forest arrow
#

Lmao

rustic mountain
#

no monke that was just u

shadow wind
bold geode
bold geode
rustic mountain
#

monke: i only ragebait twice a day now instead of twenty

shadow wind
#

Nah I remember that

#

I mean I'd rather be the jester than the executioner

forest arrow
#

Monke if you look up rage bait in the dictionary a picture of you is there

bold geode
#

I'm such a good ragebaiter cuz people think I'm legitimately stupid KEKW

rustic mountain
shadow wind
#

Nah that's when you know you're doing it right

rustic mountain
#

those r rookie numbers (literally)

rustic mountain
#

coopers haha

bold geode
#

Don't disrespect my goat

rustic mountain
shadow wind
#

In other servers I think people might genuinely believe that I think Groudon is the #1 restricted

#

I say other servers cause no one here believes that... right?

bold geode
#

Cooper Flagg putting up generational numbers just for the Mavs to fucking lose every game EternalPain

rustic mountain
#

hahah better off

#

cash in on some good picks get kyrie back

#

retool for next szn

shadow wind
#

I'm so happy I'm seeing more Groudon propaganda recently

#

Not vgc propaganda but just in general

shadow wind
#

Hey !

bold geode
#

Real players use Zamazenta-don

shadow wind
#

Compared to that fish he's anything but mid

#

We don't talk about it

shadow wind
#

Ohhhhhh

#

Well see

#

Cause I knew that, you guys wouldn't think I'm that dumb

bold geode
#

@rustic mountain After playing a few Lugia games, I've deduced that somehow Rayquaza is more dogshit than Lugia

shadow wind
#

I still think you're crazy for that take

bold geode
#

Nah

#

I PLAYED RAYQUAZA FOR A MONTH
ACTUALLY OVER

shadow wind
#

Maybe this is a Groudon pilled take

bold geode
#

I know Rayquaza bruh

shadow wind
#

I've lost to more Rayquazas than Lugias

bold geode
#

Rayquaza literally has one thing going for it

shadow wind
#

Granted to don't see many of either

bold geode
#

And that's the fact it fucks with Koraidon heavy
That is your only good/decent MU

shadow wind
#

Groudon 😔

bold geode
#

You gotta be careful against Kyogre
You suck ass into both Ice Rider and Miraidon
You suck into CSR
You suck into so much LMAO

#

That and Air Lock + Urshifu was kinda crazy

shadow wind
#

That list sounds like Groudon....

bold geode
#

Oooooooooooooo
@foggy lodge I got YT vod for Day 1 of Sydney

#

That and my favorite YouTuber played At Dead of Night

shadow wind
#

Who?

bold geode
#

Or one of my favorites

#

Pezzy

shadow wind
#

Never heard of em 😔

#

Me when I ask someone about a topic and know nothing about it

bold geode
#

YouTuber that does some speed runs but also plays horror games

shadow wind
#

Dude I remember someone mentioned reading a book and I asked about it and they looked at me and said "Bro you don't care why even ask" 😭

#

Like god forbid a guy be inquisitive and knowledge seeking

bold geode
#

Cuz I can ask questions bitch

bold geode
shadow wind
#

Can a white boy speak a little spanish?

bold geode
shadow wind
#

Or I guess in my case it's French

#

Thank you Canadian schooling system

bold geode
#

I love that shit bro just

#

"Ay can a white boy get a lil jiggy in this bitch"

shadow wind
#

Sometimes a white boy needs to overexplain a niche topic

bold geode
#

Frfr

shadow wind
#

What do other ethnicities even have that would be equivalent

#

Actually you know what

bold geode
#

Idk but let's not KEKW

shadow wind
#

Everyone can be a white boy sometimes

#

White boy is not a race or a gender, it's a mindset

bold geode
#

Worst mindset ever bruh

#

I don't like this Tiktok page

shadow wind
#

Straight dreadful mindset lowkey

bold geode
#

I don't like this Tiktok grind set account

shadow wind
#

No parties, no drugs, no girls. Stay focused and locked, I'm getting my protein and I have high test. God bless

#

I still don't think that guy is in college

bold geode
#

Huh

#

Brother there's like 50 of those accounts

shadow wind
#

Wait let me find the video

#

Nah there's one that is like the worst of all

#

Time to look up things I don't wanna look up 😔

bold geode
#

LMAO

shadow wind
#

Wait I found the account

#

Wasn't even that hard

#

Bro I don't want to sign in on facebook to hear the audio

#

There's the link, I don't want the entire image coming up

bold geode
#

Oh hell nah

shadow wind
#

People already think I'm weird enough here

bold geode
#

Not the IG reel

shadow wind
#

God bless 🙏

#

It's so corny but lowkey if he's happy doing it who am I to judge

bold geode
#

He's not from the Texas part of the South at least

#

There's snow around him

shadow wind
#

Like there's no way that guy is in college bro

bold geode
#

Brother that dude is barely a high school freshman

shadow wind
#

I think I was taller than him at the age of 11

bold geode
#

Also thank God I didn't have to stare at my IG for too long

shadow wind
#

I love doomscrolling 🤤

bold geode
#

Bruh I haven't touched my Instagram in years

#

I'm too scared to go on it now

#

I'd rather not see what teen me was looking at

shadow wind
#

Every kind of political thing shows up on mine I just kinda go "Ha that's funny" then hope the next one is a seal video

bold geode
#

Thankfully my Tiktok doesn't show much political

shadow wind
#

It's also usually American politics which I am so illiterate in

#

Even Canadian politics I'm pretty clueless

bold geode
#

I miss my spy bro

shadow wind
#

Your spy?

bold geode
#

My Tiktok spy /j

#

They knew me so well

shadow wind
#

Where'd they go?

bold geode
#

Probably got Thanos snapped after America did whatever besides banning Tiktok

shadow wind
#

Real

#

I remember that and then nothing happened

#

I wonder how this new discord thing is gonna go

bold geode
#

Oh no it was banned

#

For like
8-12 hours

shadow wind
#

😭

#

My guess with the discord thing is badly

bold geode
#

I think it's mainly for servers/channels marked 18+

shadow wind
#

Probably

#

I just realized I'm allowed in those now

#

Not like I wanna be in em but just something I realized

#

Still doesn't feel right being able to go pretty much anywhere

#

But no drinking allowed if I go into the states

bold geode
#

So you didn't lie and shit
Crazy

shadow wind
#

😭

#

I definitely did on some things but discord servers was not one of those things

solid frigate
bold geode
#

"What's your birth year"
Oh 1956 of course bro

shadow wind
#

Yeah feels bad being able to just put my real birthday

bold geode
#

Welcome to the club

shadow wind
#

Wait I can't even drink in all places in Canada

#

Couple more months

solid frigate
#

I love how I can actually grab a booze but can’t even get reverify again on discord lol

bold geode
#

I was born in '02 so now I'm getting to the age where I hear like fuckin Poker Face and am like "man this song is 10 years old"

shadow wind
#

I'm pretty much in the same boat just to a lesser extent

#

Cause I'm '07

bold geode
#

"Man I remember when Owl City Fireflies came out"

shadow wind
#

I remember the ds 😔

#

Dude I keep seeing these stupid "If you remember these you had a great childhood" and one of them was a crank window in a car

bold geode
#

Remember the DSi that was basically just DS but "different"

solid frigate
shadow wind
#

Like I use a crank window in MY car

#

Like come on guys

shadow wind
#

Oh to be like 8 again

solid frigate
bold geode
#

But y'know the ones that are like "you're African American if you've had this"

shadow wind
#

Those are lowkey just racist

#

I don't care if the person is of that race it's just re-affirming stereotypes

solid frigate
#

Assuming Stereotypes like these is just why man

bold geode
#

No the problem is a good amount of them are also just what not rich southern white people enjoy too

#

Like you ever heard of Hugs Barrels

shadow wind
#

Actually true though

shadow wind
bold geode
#

It's the juices that kinda look like lil barrels

#

Might be an American thing

shadow wind
#

But now looking it up I'm getting a sense of familiarity

#

I've definitely seen em

#

Feels like I just unlocked a memory

bold geode
#

Yeah one of those Tiktoks showed those and I was like "bro I had those"

shadow wind
#

I do find it kind of funny how kids that grew up in Canada and the states has really really similar childhoods

#

Like when you're living it you don't think about it

#

But now looking back I had a really standard childhood

#

Although screw the snow

bold geode
#

We don't get much that here
But when we get some snow/ice man does Texas freak the fuck out

shadow wind
#

It's been a very weird winter this year

#

Lots of rain

#

Which means the roads are entirely ice !

rustic mountain
#

ray will get its resurgence as well w/ megas coming back

shadow wind
#

Oh boy I love glare ice

shadow wind
rustic mountain
#

its the only mega that can have an actual item as well iirc

shadow wind
#

Zygarde?

#

I don't know how Zygarde works

rustic mountain
#

nah that needs a mega stone

shadow wind
#

Ah ok

#

Also why did they give bro 216 stats

rustic mountain
#

idk but the activation pattern is strange

#

have to be at half to get zygarde complete then u can mega

shadow wind
#

With all those stats he almost hits as hard Miraidon

#

Man Miraidon and Koraidon are unbelievable

#

Imagine if the horses didn't exist

rustic mountain
#

no

shadow wind
#

First, thank god they're gone, but second like those bikes would literally be just every team

#

Thank you Calyrex for keeping those bikes in check 🙏

#

Can't believe I just thanked the devil

rustic mountain
#

miraidon will be much more manageable w.o tera and koraidon gna b not that great imo

shadow wind
#

Without tera yeah

#

Flutter mane lowkey owns them both

#

But comparing CSR to Miraidon it's at least in the same ball park

rustic mountain
#

u know who owns koraidon?

shadow wind
#

But those 2 to any other special restricted besides Kyogre on his best days is like hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

shadow wind
rustic mountain
#

tapu fini

shadow wind
#

Dang you right

tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
#

I miss the tapus

rustic mountain
#

tapus are cool

shadow wind
#

3/4 of them anyway

#

I'm so sorry bulu

rustic mountain
#

always the grass one that sucks, rip wo chien and bulu

shadow wind
#

Hey that one Kyogre Woch team was cool

#

The design of that team was actually super cool

#

Big on the "I hate CSR"

rustic mountain
#

nd there were random bulu teams that did ok in sm era

rustic mountain
#

i played that team it was fun

shadow wind
#

Quad weaks on a "bulkier" mon don't tend to go well

tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
#

Like his defenses were ok

#

Hold up

tiny karmaBOT
rustic mountain
#

bulus meh im just saying it also saw fringe success like wo chien

shadow wind
#

Yeah they're definitely the worst out of their quartets

rustic mountain
#

id like to see a tapu and ruin meta

shadow wind
#

That'd be cool

#

Tapu koko in Reg F

#

Now that's what I wanna see

rustic mountain
#

tapus in reg f would make it interesting

shadow wind
#

Cause fini also dog walks Ursh and Incin

rustic mountain
#

cm fini could wall out the tcalp dragon pulse bolts

shadow wind
#

Yup

#

Too bad there's a very bad monkey around

rustic mountain
#

eh u got partners

shadow wind
#

Psyspam might be a lot scarier with an offensive terrain setter

tiny karmaBOT
shadow wind
#

Jeez 130?

rustic mountain
#

lele would b cool idt itd get e force tho

shadow wind
#

To make it balanced probably not

#

But who knows

rustic mountain
#

kinda more its own psy setter then anything else but wouldnt outweight the hatt/indeedee or crown psyspam teams

shadow wind
#

There's what a single psychic type without it?

rustic mountain
shadow wind
#

Oh right it existed in swsh

rustic mountain
#

so i only would assume

shadow wind
#

Was dynamic speed change gen 9?

#

Or was that in gen 8?

rustic mountain
#

gen 8

shadow wind
#

Ah ok

#

I like it but it definitely made ho a little too strong

rustic mountain
#

eh ho always had a place

shadow wind
#

It killed the bulky tailwind setters

rustic mountain
#

i wouldnt say completely

shadow wind
#

Volc and dnite are the only I can think of

rustic mountain
#

quite a few earlier formats i ran and other ppl to success bulky tw setters. but yea as power lvl increases u generally want prankster tw

shadow wind
#

Suicune exploded

rustic mountain
#

u know wen suicune was good?

#

series 10

shadow wind
#

Goat

rustic mountain
#

really tho its format dependent, prankster tw is always coveted. torn and whims werent just magically good overnight theyve been around

molten oasis
shadow wind
#

Wish I was playing vgc 5 years ago 😔

molten oasis
#

I do wonder what vgc that long ago was like

shadow wind
#

When was series 10 even

molten oasis
#

Like actually playing in the format fresh and growing with the format would have been cool

rustic mountain
#

u wouldve hated dmax lmao

dense latch
#

let’s goo right on time for series 10 talk

rustic mountain
shadow wind
#

So yeah 5 years ago

#

Man I wish I started playing vgc when I was 13 😔 😔

#

Many such cases

dense latch
#

that is so crazy to think about

#

i do wish i kept on playing vgc after playing series 10

shadow wind
#

Quite awful to think about

rustic mountain
#

eh yall r pretty young still its fine

shadow wind
#

See but being young means that thinking about being even younger is dreadful

rustic mountain
#

🤨

#

just enjoy it man

shadow wind
#

More % of my life ago

shadow wind
#

Smelling the roses as we speak

rustic mountain
#

is that u looking at groudon in ur teambuilder

molten oasis
rustic mountain
dense latch
#

i played three swsh formats

rustic mountain
#

zacian was too good it was overwhelming for u

dense latch
#

8 9 and 10

molten oasis
shadow wind
rustic mountain
#

i started series 5 for vgc

molten oasis
#

I’m gonna hate Dynamax in champions

shadow wind
#

Roses are Groudon coloured so yknow

molten oasis
#

So excited for Dynamax flutter guys

rustic mountain
#

u say that but like dmax flutter seems bad

shadow wind
#

Real

molten oasis
#

Your right sorry should have said bolt

shadow wind
molten oasis
#

Unkillable raging bolt

rustic mountain
#

actually wait idk if u get the sp atk boost w/ sun might b pog

shadow wind
#

250 base health bolt 😭

molten oasis
#

And sets e terrain

rustic mountain
#

free +1 then double health

shadow wind
#

WITH RISING VOLTAGE

molten oasis
#

I don’t remember what the dragon move did

rustic mountain
#

but yea also zacian food

shadow wind
molten oasis
#

True

dense latch
#

series 9 almost made me drop the game but series 10 got announced just as i was getting tired of dmax

tiny karmaBOT
rustic mountain
#

zacian even nerfed is much better w/ dmax

dense latch
#

i miss pre nerf eleki

shadow wind
#

Maybe I do know something

rustic mountain
shadow wind
dense latch
#

think reg f but dmax

molten oasis
rustic mountain
#

oh right lando t and galar moltres format

molten oasis
#

Well, maybe not suck be mid cuz idt zacian was that bad

rustic mountain
#

venu was good

shadow wind
#

+1 252 Atk Zacian-Crowned Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raging Bolt: 48-56 (165.5 - 193.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

molten oasis
#

It wasn’t Zekrom

shadow wind
#

Can't wait for the weakness policy bolt

dense latch
#

tork venu man

dense latch
shadow wind
#

Many such cases

dense latch
#

i once tried wp milotic next to volt switch raichu

rustic mountain
#

i did well in series 7 i got top 256 players cup na and i wasnt that great back then haha

shadow wind
#

Holy goat

#

I wish I did more gcs

molten oasis
#

I’m doing this gc with Primarina

dense latch
#

with no regionals and players cups being pretty rare i only had usage stats to get meta picks from

shadow wind
#

I think I did 1 total

dense latch
#

i built some wild stuff back then

molten oasis
#

Then hopefully we get champions I’m so done with sv lol

#

I like sv don’t get me wrong but it’s been so long

shadow wind
#

I used to do limitless tours a bunch in Reg G 1

molten oasis
#

I’m ready for megas (kinda)

rustic mountain
#

i brought a clefairy spectrier team to the 2nd phase

shadow wind
dense latch
#

i used spectrier as support for metagross

rustic mountain
#

didnt do so great it was single bracket elimination but it was more me then the team

#

bulldoze clear body weakness policy proc classic swsh meta

dense latch
#

peak

#

bulldoze and willo were great on it

rustic mountain
#

weakness policy is like almost non existent in sv

dense latch
#

i mourn it every day

shadow wind
#

Tera probably had a big part in that

molten oasis
#

I like hitting my mons without getting smacked by fucking +2 smth

dense latch
#

i also used brutal swing torn to get it activated on metagross

rustic mountain
#

same

molten oasis
#

I lost to a WP ttar today that was annoying

rustic mountain
#

damn

#

yea ull see it randomly every now and then

#

and its like bruh

molten oasis
#

It’s annoying and usually it’s just like ‘Bruh’

dense latch
#

not much in bo3 if at all

#

there was one wp armarouge team that got on stream one time i remember

molten oasis
#

I ran into him twice and just didn’t do enough to him

dense latch
#

with like belly drum lax

shadow wind
#

I think there's also just way better items

rustic mountain
#

drago, y prim btw its kinda meh no?

shadow wind
#

Clam made every physical attacker drop wp forever

dense latch
#

yea with dmax you could afford to take the super effective hit

#

type reducing berries were much more common too

molten oasis
#

It has a niche and I’ve been testing it it’s good, for what it is

shadow wind
rustic mountain
#

ight fair enough

shadow wind
#

Although many many Grimmsnarls ran Babiri for Zacian

rustic mountain
#

right

shadow wind
#

Even with the horses in the format

rustic mountain
#

zacian was everywhere horses were not

dense latch
shadow wind
#

Grimmsnarl might just be Lebron

shadow wind
rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

https://pokepast.es/b5b20f96580b03c4 im well aware this is just bolt balance with a primarina, but it walls pao, shifu, incin, chi yu. Hits lando and Ursa really hard, does great into tr teams, Tera dragon lets it play into wellspring and Hearthflame pretty well,

dense latch
#

if incin’s the lebron of vgc who’s mj

shadow wind
molten oasis
#

It has a niche and it’s been doing well, so I’m taking it to GC cuz I believe it genuinely works

#

Oh also generally you win the wars against bolt as fucking annoying as that mu is

shadow wind
#

Man that fish really got given everything and bro hasn't won anything in 9 years

dense latch
#

ursh would be a great point guard

shadow wind
#

Celebrating right now that it's been 10 years since Kyogre won worlds

#

🎉

molten oasis
#

Kyogre’s always strong but it’s definitely gotten weaker

#

Like now it has to deal with bikes

shadow wind
#

Wait wait wait

#

Gen 10 restricted 1000000% outdoing Kyogre

#

Might put the house on that bet

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

They’ll just add a water type that gets spout with 160 spA

shadow wind
molten oasis
#

I’m aware, but this is also the best it’s doing

shadow wind
#

Also 190 speed

rustic mountain
#

dude can we get a fake out water type that isnt blastoise and is good

molten oasis
#

I messed with a few different things but this feels strong

rustic mountain
#

like starter wise

molten oasis
#

Nah fr that be so nice

shadow wind
#

And flip turn

#

Like don't screw it up

molten oasis
#

Give it uh, rain dance Wolfe_Hello

#

I mean drizzle

shadow wind
#

Nah just go primordial sea

molten oasis
#

Give it drizzle gf no balls, we have fluttermane

#

If we can have flutter and bolt we can have that

rustic mountain
#

how great would it be if they pull a gen 5 for gen 10 and give us a whole new dex and the first format is w/ all new mons

molten oasis
#

That be fire

shadow wind
#

Lowkey I want rain to die and never come back

#

Groudon might be speaking through me right now

#

But like

molten oasis
shadow wind
#

In a vacuum it's SO much better than sun

molten oasis
#

I don’t really play rain teams cuz I’m a balance player but still

#

I prefer rain to sun

shadow wind
#

Even with all the proto mons I still think water is better overall

molten oasis
#

Wish kyogre got accurate fucking water moves, or ones that don’t rely on hp

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

Missing on kyogre especially in a format of Calyrex feels awful

shadow wind
rustic mountain
#

like its had more success in sv then rain

shadow wind
#

I'd agree

molten oasis
#

Probably just cuz like

shadow wind
#

Koraidon + all proto mons + Miraidon kills water

molten oasis
#

Proto mons are busted

shadow wind
#

Rain got shafted this generation I'll admit that

molten oasis
#

Rain also got Archaludon tbf

#

And basculegion

shadow wind
#

It's just the unnecessary amount of moves that get buffed in the rain

molten oasis
#

Not as crazy but in lower power formats rain>

shadow wind
#

Cause Solar blade and Solar beam do not equal Hurricane, Thunder, and the genie signatures

#

Solar blade and solar beam are so bad

rustic mountain
#

its format dependent and a lot of times ull have both be relevant at once

molten oasis
#

Except enamorous cuz fuck that guy ig

rustic mountain
#

sv just had a clear cut victor

shadow wind
#

Yeah screw enam

molten oasis
#

I can’t believe enam got shafted like that that was lowkey really funny but also sad

rustic mountain
#

sun was also very strong in swsh, venu and zard w/ gmax and groudon were very dominant

shadow wind
molten oasis
#

I think sun has better results

dense latch
#

enamorus was a mistake

rustic mountain
#

if it was close i think swsh and sv put sun over the top

molten oasis
#

Like overall, primal groudon, yeah just like groudon is a major factor in that I think

shadow wind
#

My view on it is that people that play rain suck and that if I used Kyogre I'd win everything but I know that's not true so I'll just have to know deep down they're pretty well balanced

dense latch
shadow wind
rustic mountain
#

like tf is enamorus providing that flutter cant just do better

dense latch
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1/6th to each mon for 4 turns or something

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Yeah that's wild

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that’s a third of all your team’s health

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That move was insane

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i mean it in a non competitive way too i think the trio was fine as is

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Exactly

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even torkoal gives more pressure

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The duo + twave spamming satan

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it might be bc i stopped playing pokemon too much following the release of pla but i forget about enamorus a lot

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Yea, enamorous just, exists

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In a format with genies and no paradox maybe it’ll get usage

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But I don’t expect it

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it might b ok in a format w.o ruins but that well prolly have tapus and its like just run fini

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also i thought ursaluna was a branch evo for a while

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format w.o paradoxes i meant

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and i didnt believe game freak would give guts to an insanely bulky mon with 140 base attack

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When I think of sun I think of Groudon and Torkoal

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I think of koraidon

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lol

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not for long

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Tho koraidons gonna suck in the future.

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Sounds like a dream come true !

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Hey a fluttermane

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tho again, w/o tera ursa isnt as threatening

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