competitive_discussion

[dense latch]

same priority
encore should go first since whims is faster

[shadow wind]

You sure?

[dense latch]

wait no the +1

[shadow wind]

+1 speed Shed

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 292: Shedinja

Types

Bug/Ghost

Abilities

Wonder Guard

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

1/90/45/30/30/40

Total

236

Sableye version 4.29.0

[shadow wind]

Oh nah

He ain't outspeeding nothing

I thought guy had at least 85

[dense latch]

i think it guarantees it outspeeds amoong

[shadow wind]

Oh 100%

So pretty much you need to stall 12 turns

Or make the Shedninja struggle

Is that how encore works?

Cause it has 4

[dense latch]

there's no way to make it struggle

[shadow wind]

So you encore until it has 1 then you encore and then it struggles after the last one is used?

[dense latch]

wait no

yea you're right i didnt realize poltergeist was at 4 pp

[shadow wind]

Yuh

How much does burn do a turn?

6%?

[dense latch]

1/16

[shadow wind]

So yeah 6.25%

I see the problem

The encore ends as Whims dies to burn

I think

Oh wait maybe not

||Encore - Down to 3 Whims goes down to 14 - Switch Zacian out to Amoonguss so Polter does nothing. Down to 2 Whims goes down to 7.75 Amoonguss clicks anything. Down to 1 Whims goes down to 1 Amoonuguss clicks anything Encore and Whims dies to burn Zacian comes in. Last Polter got used and struggle to death||

[dense latch]

||you keep whim off the field until the last turn of encore so it doesnt take as much burn damage i think||

[shadow wind]

Oh my god wait

I haven't clicked yours yet

I see it

[dense latch]

||even without encore you just need to stall 12 turns and timer ends||

[shadow wind]

Wait does struggle go through wonder guard

If it does I see a funny way to go about it

Holy moly it does

||Encore into Poltergeist then bring in the Amoonguss, Rage Powder with your Amoonguss then side taunt, then encore your Amoonguss and then next turn you struggle kill the Shedninja||

I think that might be an alternative way?

[foggy lodge]

How much damage does shadow sneak do to Whimsi

Cuz I think Whimsi just dies to a single shadow sneak

[shadow wind]

Whims definitely outspeeds

[shadow wind]

Erik what do we think of this

[foggy lodge]

||for the 3rd isn't it just spore Zacian protect CSR?||

[shadow wind]

See that's what I'm thinking

[foggy lodge]

||Spirit break never KOs Amoonguss even with a crit, protect CSR covers Grimmsnarl hitting CSR, Zacian sleeps this turn or switches to Ditto which copies CSR and you put it to sleep, Grimmsnarl dies to burn and CSR just sweeps with AB||

||and if Zacian doesn't switch Ditto enters on the Grimmsnarl slot and copies Amoonguss and you just win||

[shadow wind]

And spore covers for the hard switch

[foggy lodge]

Yeah that's the easy one

I still don't know about the Shedinja one I don't see the win con

Ok it depends on one thing

[shadow wind]

I think my solution is straight baller

[shadow wind]

Maxi if you want I think this might be an unintended method

[foggy lodge]

Wait yours is the one

[shadow wind]

I'm so fire

[foggy lodge]

Yeah its that

I kept trying to play with encore

Until I realized that encore doesn't force a struggle

[shadow wind]

Oh it doesn't?

[foggy lodge]

If you run out of PPs you can play normally again

[shadow wind]

Oh right

So my "alternative" method was the right method

Coolio

[dense latch]

shadow sneak scares me

because goggles

[shadow wind]

We still encore into Polter

[dense latch]

o right

whim lives enough right

[shadow wind]

Should

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[shadow wind]

Cause it'll die at the end of turn 4 in the sequence

[foggy lodge]

21% -> 15% -> 9%

[shadow wind]

Oh 5

[foggy lodge]

Actually

[shadow wind]

Oh well you need it for like 3 turns

[foggy lodge]

You depend on the Shedinja spread

Well on the Whimsicott spread

[shadow wind]

Oh why?

[foggy lodge]

Because +1 speed Shedinja is faster than a Whimsicott that isn't 252 speed

[shadow wind]

Nah no way

[foggy lodge]

So if it is faster it can just shadow sneak the Whimsicott lol

[dense latch]

is it actually

[shadow wind]

Guy is 40 speed

[foggy lodge]

If the Whimsicott has no investment yes it is

[dense latch]

it maxes out at 101 speed

[shadow wind]

Wowza

[dense latch]

so yea it can actually

[foggy lodge]

How tf did it even get to +1

[shadow wind]

Max Airstream Thund

[foggy lodge]

And why did bro pick 3 mons that can't hit Shedinja

[dense latch]

because they hate us

[foggy lodge]

They have Incin

And its a Zacian team I don't see why you don't pick Incin there LOL

[shadow wind]

Fish 😔

[foggy lodge]

Like there's a Kyogre but I think you still pick it

[dense latch]

what's the fun in that tho :(

[shadow wind]

I really don't know the solution then if we assume that the Shed is going to outspeed

[foggy lodge]

We have to assume Shedinja is slower I think

[shadow wind]

Yeah guess so

[foggy lodge]

Cuz Zacian doesn't do anything here is basically a dead slot

And Amoonguss can't do anything either cuz the Shed is goggles

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[dense latch]

just assume the opponent cant bother playing it out and forfeits :)

[shadow wind]

Nah if you playing Shedinja you are there for the long run

(Guy who has never played a format with Shedinja)

[dense latch]

yea i dont think they would

especially when technically there's no way to kill it

[foggy lodge]

Yesh if you are the Shed player you pray for the opp to not see the out

[shadow wind]

I mean 12 turns you might be able to kill Zacian and Whims

[foggy lodge]

Or for you to be faster and shadow sneak the Whims right away lol

[shadow wind]

Yeah if the Shed is faster than Whims then everything goes out the window

[foggy lodge]

Yeah cuz

Yeah there's no out if Shed is faster you can't redirect you can't protect

[shadow wind]

Yeah

I'm happy with finding the solution to that one

[foggy lodge]

I only found the one to the most easy one

I keep finding the ways to just lose LOL

[shadow wind]

That's me when I boot up ladder

There's a reason I haven't been playing mons

I been grinding Hades 2 !!

[foggy lodge]

I saw a thing that the ending of that game was bad is that true

[shadow wind]

So the thing is that the story what kinda meh and I'll agree with it

But they changed it and it is better but I ain't playing it for the story

[foggy lodge]

Ah fair its a roguelike game right

[shadow wind]

I play it because it's a fun Roguelite that is super challenging

I'm just a Roguelike fan in general

If Risk of Rain 2 wasn't the worse piece of coding on the switch it'd be like top 5 games of all time for me

And I swear I have a good top 5 list

[foggy lodge]

What is the top 5

[shadow wind]

Alright let me think cause it's been a while

[dense latch]

im replaying p5r
that game is so long i forgot some stuff already lmao

so i havent been grinding that much reg f either

[shadow wind]

Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Breath of the Wild
Hollow Knight
Super Mario Galaxy

That was a hard list

[dense latch]

omg bowser's inside story

[shadow wind]

Top 2 are pretty interchangeable

[dense latch]

holy ball knowledge

[shadow wind]

Dude I love that game so much

Wait Super Paper Mario is over Galaxy

[dense latch]

i need to play that again that was my childhood

[shadow wind]

I'm sorry Galaxy 🥀

[foggy lodge]

Xenoblade 2 looks fun but the designs are also so funny

[shadow wind]

I replayed it like last year and did a hard mode challenge and it was lowkey difficult

[dense latch]

turn based rpgs my beloved

[shadow wind]

It was great for a replay

[dense latch]

love the mario & luigi series love pokemon love persona

been wanting to play some paper mario too

[shadow wind]

It's very "anime" with the story telling and stuff like that but it's so peak

The combat is fire and the characters are awesome

[foggy lodge]

Brother you are not even using pants you don't need 3 belts

[shadow wind]

I don't know what it is but I can't make it through the recent games in the series which makes me sad

[dense latch]

im surprised that holds up

[shadow wind]

Like I can replay Bowsers inside story a million times but brothership is taking me ages

[shadow wind]

He deep sea dives he needs it trust

Deep cloud sea dives?

[dense latch]

i've played through BIS partners in time and superstar saga

[shadow wind]

I played the superstar saga remake and it was fun

I need to play partners in time though

Only one of the pre-remakes I need to play

[foggy lodge]

I played Dragon Quest XI and its so good best rpg I've played

[shadow wind]

I'm kind of shocked FF7 didn't make my top 5

[foggy lodge]

As much as I love Pokémon DQXI destroys it

[dense latch]

i haven't finished any tho lmao
i was too dumb as a kid to finish bowser's inside story or partners in time (lowkey scary game the shroobs freaked me tf out)

[shadow wind]

I played the original FF7 and wow they had it right

[shadow wind]

That's so real

[dense latch]

i was playing through the remake for a bit but my ps5 ran out of storage

[shadow wind]

I remember getting stuck in BIS at the trash robot boss fight

For like 8 years

Couldn't beat it then quit 🥀

[dense latch]

I couldnt get past the beach bc i didnt know where to go

[shadow wind]

I honestly don't like the remakes style

Bowser lost all his character

[dense latch]

so the theme is super nostalgic to me

i have a similar story with pokemon x

yk the cave that joins that one route and the fossil town + 2nd gym leader town

[shadow wind]

Why is he so small 😭

Anyway they butchered him

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah

[dense latch]

there's a path you cant go through and one downwards that is the one you have to take
i didnt realize there was that other entrance

[shadow wind]

And you need to use strength or something on the lower portion

[dense latch]

took me two years

[shadow wind]

Nowadays you'd have a huge blinking beacon telling you where to go

[dense latch]

i have no memory of how i got there
i had access to the internet i just didnt get it

[shadow wind]

Pokemon XY are so fire

I do still think the Ultra games are my favourite though

They just did so much right

[dense latch]

i've been playing through some older entries as randomizer nuzlockes

very fun way to revisit

[shadow wind]

Earliest I've played is Gen 5

[dense latch]

gen 4 for me

[shadow wind]

Like Emerald Rogue doesn't count but technically I've played in Hoenn

[dense latch]

i was replaying heart gold as an all shiny playthrough but i could never get the fucking game corner dratini to shine

i have all three shiny starters in that playthrough tho

[shadow wind]

Fire

Paper Mario the Thousand year door was also peak

But I'm nostalgic for super paper mario

Even though thousand year door is turn based

[foggy lodge]

Folagor?

jk there's no way to be worse than fola at nuzlockws

[dense latch]

he got the tattoo finally

[dense latch]

i started watching him again so that's y i'm doing them too

i got a huge power rampardos in my hgss randomizer that was fun

[foggy lodge]

Lol

I want to play one of those

[dense latch]

the only problem is that i'm limited to xy at the latest bc the rare candy cheat codes don't work for oras and later

[foggy lodge]

I also want to play pokerogue

[rustic mountain]

goated game

[shadow wind]

I think Emerald Rogue is better than Pokerogue

Less accessible though

[shadow wind]

Maybe I have to invest

I've seen good things about it

[rustic mountain]

also yea ttyd is peak

playing the remake was so much fun

[shadow wind]

Except for the combat, I've heard mixed opinions on the combat

[shadow wind]

Dude the hidden trophies are so cool

[rustic mountain]

nah partners in time combat is fine, its been awhile since i played but once u get it down its pretty cool

[dense latch]

i was too young to care about the differences in combat between partners in time and bowser's inside story

im pretty sure i didnt even notice them

[shadow wind]

It's items instead of BP right?

[foggy lodge]

I still don't know how to drift in old mario karts is okay

[shadow wind]

Old being like 64?

[foggy lodge]

Yea

[shadow wind]

Or like double dash?

[foggy lodge]

And the snea one

[shadow wind]

Ah I've never played that one

I was a huge Mario Kart Wii fan

Still am I even have my Wii hooked up to my monitor right now

[rustic mountain]

double dash is top tier mario kart

[shadow wind]

I've heard it's peak

I'm too young to have ever owned a GameCube

But it seems like it was just as peak as the Wii

[dense latch]

i was a ds kid i never got a wii

[rustic mountain]

gamecube was a lot of fun

[shadow wind]

I was lucky enough to get both so I'm very grateful for both

[dense latch]

the original new super mario bros is still my favorite 2d mario game by far

[shadow wind]

Oh man those games were peak

[dense latch]

i did get a wii u but never got og wii games

[rustic mountain]

is that the one where u swap?

[shadow wind]

Wii U actually did have banger games, just not many

[shadow wind]

Swap?

It had the blue shell I know that

[rustic mountain]

like b/w mario and luigi

[dense latch]

yea you could do that in the menu

[shadow wind]

Oh right

[rustic mountain]

yea thats a good one

havent played that in ages

[shadow wind]

I like how the blue shell just randomly gets added to some Mario games

[dense latch]

my best friend at the time and i would spend hours in the mario vs luigi mode

[shadow wind]

Was that the one with the star count?

[dense latch]

yep

[shadow wind]

Also was that the game that had the Luigi Casino?

And Find Luigi

[dense latch]

also yea

[shadow wind]

Gambling since I was a child 🫡

[dense latch]

it was also in mario 64 ds

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah I never had that

I did have some wild ds games though

I had 2 Phineas and Ferb games

I didn't even know there was 2 until I was looking back at the games I had

[rustic mountain]

crazy u werent even born wen melee came out

[dense latch]

i had one iirc

[shadow wind]

By a couple years too

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Dude I had club penguin on the ds

[dense latch]

i wasnt even an idea when melee dropped

[dense latch]

dude samee

[shadow wind]

Real me neither

Erik you're 07 as well right?

[dense latch]

yea

[shadow wind]

Fire

Holy I just found peak

Mario party ds

[dense latch]

did we have the same childhood

[shadow wind]

Sounds like it

[rustic mountain]

i mean yall the same age makes sense theres some crossover

especially nowadays w/ more connectivity

[shadow wind]

There's just so much crossover

Man mario party ds was so gas thinking back

It had that one garden map

[dense latch]

it's just that most of the ppl i know that grew up with nintendo were on the wii so this is new to me

[rustic mountain]

fair enough

[shadow wind]

Lego Marvel on the ds 💀

[dense latch]

i had lego batman

[rustic mountain]

is this og ds

[shadow wind]

Yuh

[rustic mountain]

word

[shadow wind]

This is what I am staring at right now

Oh actually not the french part though

I mean the French could've been on there I am in Canada

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[shadow wind]

Dude it's crazy

[rustic mountain]

living in canada?

[shadow wind]

You go anywhere in Canada everything has to be French in some place like text anyway

Then you go to Quebec and there's no English

The double standard is crazy

[rustic mountain]

i heard quebec is mad snobby

torontos cool

[shadow wind]

When I was there it wasn't that bad but I was there for sports so I imagine I got the good part of it

[rustic mountain]

can u speak french tho

[shadow wind]

A little yeah

I can read a lot of it

It's a main course in school up until like grade 10

[rustic mountain]

oh idk i just know ppl that went there and said if u cant speak like perfect french they are super rude about it

[foggy lodge]

Me rn

(I'm January 08)

[shadow wind]

Oh I didn't even try

[rustic mountain]

except thats all of u

[dense latch]

i took french from 6th to 7th grade then dropped it

[shadow wind]

A guy on my team could speak fluently though and they definitely liked him better than the rest of us

[shadow wind]

By choice?

[dense latch]

i hated it yea

[shadow wind]

Oh nah

They forced me to learn it

[dense latch]

i was forced to take it then dropped it the second i could

[rustic mountain]

y

[shadow wind]

If you aren't interested in a language it's very hard to learn

[rustic mountain]

learning other languages is cool, i wish i did better at keeping up with it myself

[dense latch]

i didnt like the teachers

[rustic mountain]

ahh ok

[shadow wind]

Oh that's fair as well

[dense latch]

they made the process so much worse

[rustic mountain]

yea that sucks

[dense latch]

i figured english and spanish was enough at 14

[rustic mountain]

oh u know 2 languages already right

[shadow wind]

Wait that's gas

[rustic mountain]

yea

[dense latch]

yea english is my second language

[shadow wind]

Oh really? I never would have guessed like actually

Typing that it sounded so sarcastic but I promise it's genuine

[rustic mountain]

[dense latch]

im flattered lol

[rustic mountain]

so if school required u to take french how tf did u learn english

[shadow wind]

My one buddy is considered bilingual because he took French all the way to graduation but guy passed the "fluency" test and got a 51

[foggy lodge]

hmm estos no saben español

[dense latch]

british school

[foggy lodge]

erik deja de hablarles

[rustic mountain]

huh

rnt u latam?

[shadow wind]

Not the British

[dense latch]

it's hard to explain to others

[rustic mountain]

hahaha yea i bet

[dense latch]

most of my teachers were british and i've been learning since i was 4

[rustic mountain]

thats cool

[shadow wind]

I feel so simple when people say things like living in not the US or Canada cause I know nothing about the world

[rustic mountain]

u have a whole life to experience the world relax haha

its good knowing theres more outside of the bubble u inhabit

[dense latch]

they're "rooted in english heritage" as per the website lmao
it was founded by british immigrants

[shadow wind]

Yeah but as of right now when people ask me questions I have like 3 word answers which is chill but pretty boring

[rustic mountain]

oh i just meant the learning since 4

[dense latch]

there's like german schools and US rooted schools amongst others it's cool

[shadow wind]

Sounds cool

[rustic mountain]

its a good time to pick up another language tho cuz ur so malleable with information

[dense latch]

o yea i was just trying to explain why it was called that

[rustic mountain]

gotcha

[shadow wind]

Tree you're in the US right?

[foggy lodge]

Trying to learn a new language after 10 feels so hard

[dense latch]

yea

[rustic mountain]

yes

[shadow wind]

I never tried outside of school but I could imagine it being dreadful

[dense latch]

im so grateful to have had the opportunity to learn english so young

[rustic mountain]

[foggy lodge]

We have to learn italian to get the VGC sauce

[shadow wind]

I feel like this is one of the first times I've been "involved" in learning about people online

And it's in a Pokemon discord of all things

[dense latch]

feels kinda unsafe when u think abt it

good thing i dont even use my real name online

[foggy lodge]

oops

[shadow wind]

Yeah me neither

Who'd be dumb enough to do that

[foggy lodge]

yeah right

[shadow wind]

Like this is true but if you really run through all the things that someone could do with the info it's not that bad

Like obviously sometimes it gets real bad but if it does just get the police involved cause that is something that can be done

[dense latch]

come find my location idc what if im feeling lonely at the time

[shadow wind]

If someone has the dedication to find me maybe we'll be friends

[dense latch]

joke joke joke joke joke joke joke

[shadow wind]

Oh one of my buddies has a "stalker"

Not like follows him home and has bad intentions

[dense latch]

follows him home and has good intentions...?

[rustic mountain]

yea i mean id definitely be careful what it is exactly your sharing for sure but idt any1 necessarily said anything too specific during the conversation

[shadow wind]

But he's a semi pro hockey player and there's a girl that is a fan I guess and had his face on a birthday cake and like sends him gifts

So it's definitely a bit weird but just a fan

[rustic mountain]

yea that is weird

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah like I doubt there's any reason to go that specific anyway

[rustic mountain]

nd if some1 is trynna get super specific then they are a weirdo and block/disengage

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-hartwell-white-sr-walter-hartwell-breaking-bad-meme-gif-27113588

[shadow wind]

As weird as it is I do kinda wish I had fans like that, maybe not pictures of me on a cake but like I have no fans

[rustic mountain]

or report if u feel its necessary

[shadow wind]

I haven't done anything that would give me fans but the thought exists

[shadow wind]

Literally, things can be done

I don't think I've ever had to report someone on discord for being "weird"

Or if I have ever reported someone in general

[rustic mountain]

theres a parasocial aspect to fans and the people they idolize so id say its not really a great thing to have tbh. u only ever exist as an idealized version of a person to most of them that they concoct in their heads

[shadow wind]

Like blocked a bunch of bots but I don't think I've ever blocked a person that wasn't trying to scam me

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah it's for sure bad but you can have fans that aren't parasocial, and those are the ones I wanna have

[rustic mountain]

few and far between man

[shadow wind]

But fans don't exist for people that don't do meaningful things

[rustic mountain]

eh, id disagree

[shadow wind]

Wait I gotta find a screenshot

[rustic mountain]

tons of ppl that dont do anything meaningful still have fans, and even then meaning is generally subjective because its always changing based on the current era

[shadow wind]

Found it

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Closest I'll get to a fan

[foggy lodge]

LMAO

[shadow wind]

People loved "GG=Groudon Gaming"

[foggy lodge]

Its one of the best showdown names ever

[shadow wind]

I only make banger Groudon names

[foggy lodge]

Everytime I go through the ladder leaderboard I feel the creative envy

[shadow wind]

John Groudon might be more peak

[foggy lodge]

"Why didn't I think of that"

[shadow wind]

Most of mine are dumb and only I would use them but I think there's charm in that

[rustic mountain]

donbozo is one of my favs

[shadow wind]

I know the people behind the "ProtectPartingShot" and "TailwindMakeItRain" accounts

[rustic mountain]

also the fact this convo led back to groudon u truly r obsessed

[shadow wind]

And those are always funny to see

[shadow wind]

He's always on my mind

[dense latch]

i always play them lol

[shadow wind]

They're good players but can be a little full of themselves sometimes

[dense latch]

i've seen them on twitter

[rustic mountain]

primals might b coming back sooner then we think

[shadow wind]

Which being confident isn't bad but they show it in a bad way occasionally

I like em though, they're funny people

[rustic mountain]

till then groudons mid

[shadow wind]

😔

I mean I already accepted that back in like Reg G1

[rustic mountain]

didnt u do ur best w/ it in reg g 1

[shadow wind]

Depends on the definition of "best"

I hit 80 GXE in Reg I

But I hit 7th on the leader board in Reg G2

[rustic mountain]

gxe>

[shadow wind]

I think it was Reg G2 anyway

[rustic mountain]

but nah 7ths cool

[shadow wind]

Not when I have a 62 gxe 😭

[rustic mountain]

at 7th?

[shadow wind]

That just says "This guy spams ladder"

[shadow wind]

Yea

[rustic mountain]

u had to have atleast 1 really good stretch

[shadow wind]

Wait I was capping

[rustic mountain]

lmao

i was also gna say 62% seems very low for top 10

usually borderline 70 is pushing it where ur at

[shadow wind]

Yeah

Except when I have Miraidon on my team

Then it's like low 70s

Thank you Reg I for letting me play with Miraidon

[dense latch]

what type of iron crown is this

[foggy lodge]

Leak

[shadow wind]

Leak what

Oh actually I am in their teambuilding server

But that feels wrong

I got invited because I had a funny name too

[rustic mountain]

cuz it is

[shadow wind]

Time to find another screen shot 😔

[foggy lodge]

fun fact Sanvy is top 1 of reg F ladder

[solemn flicker]

Anyone got a good Reg J team for ladder to hit MB tier?

[foggy lodge]

With japan balance + tera fairy guss for the mirror

[rustic mountain]

cool ill just use lando and destroy it

idk y ppl opt into bolt vs bolt for the mirror its not good

[rustic mountain]

check out any of cybertrons vids if u wanna use mythicals otherwise just use a good reg i team

[foggy lodge]

Mine was only good because I had Scream Tail

[solemn flicker]

I did want to use a Miraidon one

[shadow wind]

Like this Sanvy?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[shadow wind]

Found it

[foggy lodge]

Lmfao

You are oficially an niche micro celebrity

[dense latch]

real (i do it)

i should really use pao but firepon is so fun

[rustic mountain]

both r good

[shadow wind]

Twice somehow

[rustic mountain]

i just prefer pao

[shadow wind]

With 2 different identities

I even made my way into a twitch chat question

I think Erik sent the original image

[dense latch]

tree what do you do vs paonite

[foggy lodge]

Into balance with Ceree's team I pick Bolt Incin Flutter Urshifu

[dense latch]

im definitely not playing against one rn and have a really bad gameplan into it

[foggy lodge]

Nah you are famous now

[rustic mountain]

incin pao lead usually have tera ghost on pao available, fo pressure for their pao which they usually dont wanna tera after being -1 then focus the dnite down

[shadow wind]

Too bad I don't use those alts anymore

Mostly cause no Groudon

[foggy lodge]

Maybe you should come back

[dense latch]

i forgot dnite runs aerial ace rip my ursh

[rustic mountain]

paonite just a vibe check, real ones dont lead it if u have it

[shadow wind]

I'm a seasonal image

[shadow wind]

I will when Groudon does

[dense latch]

couldnt think of a better partner to lead with

[shadow wind]

Him and I are a package deal

[foggy lodge]

People usually lead with only Pao or Nite into me and have the other one in the back

I guess the Incin scares them

[rustic mountain]

ur mistake is no pao

id say incin hearthflame or incin urshi ur best bet and u gta tera that slot (hearthflame or urshi)

[foggy lodge]

Wait I have sash shifu

[rustic mountain]

just bop that dnite use their sword of ruin against them

[dense latch]

wait i think i win

[rustic mountain]

also yea if ur running sash shifu ur chilling they have to committ to tera ghost pao to really do anything and their dnite mostly likely getting outsped and koed anyway

[dense latch]

i got a swords dance off with my firepon

[shadow wind]

I think if I come back to Reg F it's going to be with Weezing

[rustic mountain]

ew

[foggy lodge]

But Weezing with what?

[rustic mountain]

u mean with what

[shadow wind]

I know I know

[shadow wind]

Well Regigigas

And Incin

[foggy lodge]

I forgot Regigigas was the better Slaking

[shadow wind]

With ability shield

[foggy lodge]

Instructions unclear gave ability shield to the Regigigas

[shadow wind]

And then I bring Indeedee and Latios and then switch in Weezing and have a CSR larp

[shadow wind]

Gave ability shield to a prankster mon with trick, now I'm losing

I forget how strong Regigigas is

Guy is stronger than Groudon

And like 110/110/110 bulk is gnarly

With 100 speed

Why couldn't Groudon have these stats

[foggy lodge]

I was gonna say gen 3 but Regigigas is gen 4 lol

[rustic mountain]

u want groudon to have slow start? 🤨

[shadow wind]

If he gets a ground type crush grip yeah I'd be down

[rustic mountain]

[foggy lodge]

You know that game freak hates Regigigas when even in legends it keeps slow start

[shadow wind]

Why did they forsake him with that god awful move

If he didn't have pblades bro would actually be better off

[foggy lodge]

For the single player game and mon that is only obtainable post game

[shadow wind]

"It's the lore 🤓"

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 965: Varoom

Types

Steel/Poison

Abilities

Overcoat, Slow Start (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

45/70/63/30/45/47

Total

300

Sableye version 4.29.0

[foggy lodge]

Varoom lore is insane

[shadow wind]

I mean it does make sense

Bro stalled out

[rustic mountain]

ok now we r trollin

[foggy lodge]

What other mon had a bad ability but this type of abilities

[rustic mountain]

1/10 bait

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 567: Archeops

Types

Rock/Flying

Abilities

Defeatist

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/140/65/112/65/110

Total

567

Sableye version 4.29.0

Ability: Defeatist

While this Pokemon has 1/2 or less of its maximum HP, its Attack and Special Attack are halved.

Sableye version 4.29.0

[shadow wind]

Definitely right

[rustic mountain]

?

[shadow wind]

That one Archeops image

[shadow wind]

Oh that I'm trolling

[rustic mountain]

[foggy lodge]

I love that Game Freak used to be actually scared of making a broken mon

Then next gen they created Mega Kangaskhan

[shadow wind]

Real

Also we can assume paradox mons aren't coming back right

Unless they bring back ALL mons

[rustic mountain]

eventually

not right away tho

[shadow wind]

Ultra beasts were in Sw/Sh I guess

[rustic mountain]

atleast imo

[foggy lodge]

Paradox are coming back

[shadow wind]

Cause they are literally just Ultra Beasts part 2

[rustic mountain]

eh

[shadow wind]

Even the legendaries are themed like that

Lunala/Solgaleo being UBs and Miraidon/Koraidon being paradoxes

[rustic mountain]

interdimensional mons vs past and future iterations is a bit different

[shadow wind]

Oh that is different yes but you can't say that they didn't just do it again

Funny mons that have gnarly stats that are weird to the world

[rustic mountain]

i guess yea i think theres enough difference to set them apart tho

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah I'm not saying the idea is a carbon copy I just think they say UBs and said "how do we do this again"

And I'm only saying this because UBs were the first of their kind

[foggy lodge]

Special mons related to the legendaries that are not legendaries but also not regular mons

[shadow wind]

Nothing before had a subset of "legendaries" that had a funky name

[shadow wind]

Literally

[rustic mountain]

there r similarities

[shadow wind]

I just find the box arts both being the subset funny

No Necrozma though

Which is good

Can you imagine more forms of Miraidon/Koraidon

[rustic mountain]

just different means of achieving those within the story (lore and interactions with interdimensional or time travel) nd within the concepts themselves

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah they definitely pulled them apart with how they were introduced

Like Treads/Tusk in the desert was cool

Oh wait but there was Nihilego in the Aether Foundation

Hmm

[rustic mountain]

id love a legends game that takes place in another dimension

[shadow wind]

That'd be sick

Like imagine we got a ultra megalopolis game

[foggy lodge]

A game in the Buzzwole dimension and Buzzwole is the only mon in the whole game

[rustic mountain]

poipole is 1 of the starters

[shadow wind]

Yup

[shadow wind]

I'd buy it

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

I mess with Buzzwole

I like bugs

And he's a jacked bug

He walked so Iron hands could run

Man I miss UBs

And I never played with them competitively

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 798: Kartana

Types

Grass/Steel

Abilities

Beast Boost

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

59/181/131/59/31/109

Total

570

Sableye version 4.29.0

[shadow wind]

But what do you mean this was a real mon

[dense latch]

did gouging fire ever use sunny day or did i just get cts'd

[shadow wind]

CTS for sure

I've seen morning sun before but never sunny day

[dense latch]

scream fist is my ursh

[shadow wind]

Oh nah

Specs Flutter or nah

Actually definitely not

No way it would only do 47% to tera bolt

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 805: Stakataka

Types

Rock/Steel

Abilities

Beast Boost

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

61/131/211/53/101/13

Total

570

Sableye version 4.29.0

[shadow wind]

How were these things real

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 809: Melmetal

Type

Steel

Abilities

Iron Fist

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

135/143/143/80/65/34

Total

600

Sableye version 4.29.0

[shadow wind]

How was this guy real

Iron Fist with Double Iron Bash

[tiny karma]

Move: Double Iron Bash

Hits twice. If the first hit breaks the target's substitute, it will take damage for the second hit. Has a 30% chance to make the target flinch.

Type

Steel

Category

Physical

Power

60

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Punch

Boosted by Iron Fist.

Sableye version 4.29.0

[shadow wind]

Like we cannot be serious

Thank god this guy was a mythical

[dense latch]

yea maybe im better off in bo3

[shadow wind]

I only play Bo3 when I do play

[dense latch]

guessing the items on a flutterfish lead is not fun

[shadow wind]

Who is scarfed, sashed, booster, specs

Gambling

[dense latch]

tera fire ivy cudgel into flutter should be safe right

wrong it's sashed and chi yu is specs bye bye game

[shadow wind]

🥀

I'd rather die

[tiny karma]

Move: Crush Grip

Power is equal to 120 * (target's current HP / target's maximum HP), rounded half down, but not less than 1.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.29.0

[shadow wind]

Crazy move

Wait Regigigas gets all elemental punches?

My goat

Also what evil dev made Lando have 101 speed

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/51e18cf126273587

Man my teambuilding is rusty

And by rusty I mean lazy

[real prairie]

Morning

[real prairie]

does iron head incin kill Flutter?

no, is the answer

[solid frigate]

the team is doing well

Flutter fish is a glaring issue but beating Hard TR and Wolfe's Orlando team is good enough for rushed testing in Bo3

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2487979181-62echv4l90qvrbnoj4y4u7mywp2ede4pw

[solid frigate]

Pelipper

Without Archaludon

What

The

Fuck

[stone trellis]

Also the three Ghost types and two Dragon types.

I can't lie though, I feel kind of bad.

[solid frigate]

Two dragons isn’t a problem

Why the fuck bro is espeeding on Flutter Mane

[stone trellis]

I 4-0'd someone who is clearly new to this stuff and had the nerve to taunt them at the start of the game.

It's not like if I beat that one ClankerApe player on Reg J ladder who's beaten me 3-0 up to this point.

[solid frigate]

Yeah this is why I never taunt on someone

[stone trellis]

How slow can I justify Covert Cloak Whims being?

[solid frigate]

At least faster than Modest Max Speed Lando

But I am not sure what torn runs in speed

[stone trellis]

168 - 16 = 152, right?

I've seen really bulky Torn, so I'm torn here.

[solid frigate]

Isn’t Modest Max Speed Lando 153

[stone trellis]

I could run enough to outspeed Timid Lorb Lando.

[solid frigate]

I guess

[stone trellis]

Oh yeah, I did the process in reverse.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2487991942

Why did they forfeit here?

[solid frigate]

They have nothing against Heatran

Flash Fire Remember?

[stone trellis]

I was using Flame Body

But hold on, that might be cracked.

I literally have the best anti-Fire tech imaginable.

[solid frigate]

Yeah heatran basically beats sun team

On paper

[stone trellis]

And no one knows that I'm not using that stuff either.

Unless they try using Heat Wave themselves.

[solid frigate]

Also why I said that because A lot of people defaulted into Flash Fire

[next stump]

https://x.com/rk9labs/status/1993332868764807646?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

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X · Nov 25, 2025, 2:56 PM

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-news-trump-gif-22804577

they are a day too early with their tweet

[solid frigate]

I’m gonna just not do bham and straight to EUIC

[real prairie]

unless i can get tickets next week, im probably doing the same now. Cant afford it this week

[molten oasis]

Good luck to the both of ya

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2487998573

[solid frigate]

That is if I have enough money for the venue ticket and Train

Not even counting the flipping cost on staying in

@real prairie if you still have the idea in Airbnb over the EUIC weekend

[real prairie]

Not sure ill be able to afford it, but ill let you know.

but its definately the safest bet over a hotel

[solid frigate]

I’m 100% not affording the Accommodation costs lol

I mean unless if there is more than us joining EUIC and share rooms idk

[molten oasis]

People sure like their gouging gambit in lower elos

Beat both just ended up being mu practice

[real prairie]

Yeah think that'll have to be the plan, there are enough people in here going EUIC

[solid frigate]

Agreed,if anyone want to join in then just make a Group chat for that

[stone trellis]

Safety Goggles Lando-T actually seems pretty good.

[vernal shadow]

When the burn matters
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2488014394

Don't question stupid stuff on my end. I'm not very good

[stone trellis]

Why not use Cloak Whims?

You already have Tera Dark.

[molten oasis]

What did I just watch?

[vernal shadow]

Someone crap at vgc beating someone equally crap at vgc

[vernal shadow]

Sash endeavour is pretty funny

[stone trellis]

Then use Tera Ghost to preserve the Sash.

Fake Out is a problem, so either use Cloak or go Tera Ghost.

[vernal shadow]

True. Whimsi can only lose on speed ties with other whimsi since it's faster than tornadus which I can taunt regardless

[molten oasis]

Would you mind sending a paste?

[waxen dock]

so sign up now

before it runs out

[stone trellis]

I can't get over the fact that there is an actual company called BBL.

[molten oasis]

What does that BBL stand for?

[stone trellis]

How would I know, mate?

[molten oasis]

Wild name lmao

[stone trellis]

Exactly.

[vernal shadow]

I can I think sure. Be gentle 😂

[stone trellis]

The funniest thing would've been if their logo was two half ovals next to each other.

[molten oasis]

So true

[real prairie]

its not available yet, i checked earlier

[vernal shadow]

Big banana linkage

[molten oasis]

I see

[vernal shadow]

Bouncable brambleghast league

[stone trellis]

Brazilian butt lif- dies

[vernal shadow]

I tried my best to avoid going down that sorta route

[real prairie]

Best Battle League

[stone trellis]

(That's the actual meaning of BBL, by the way)

[real prairie]

which one?

[stone trellis]

^

[real prairie]

not sure thats the actual meaning of that company name 😉

[stone trellis]

I was talking about the acronym in general.

[real prairie]

I know, im fucking with you

[vernal shadow]

Sent it in DMS. No clue how to make it a pokepaste

[molten oasis]

Use that

[vernal shadow]

Ye the button just takes me to a blank pokepaste even tho I'm on my team

I tried it manually too and it just says no or invalid paste so idk

[waxen dock]

try it on your browser

not with shortcut

[vernal shadow]

Perfect. Ty

[gentle crag]

seamagician703 has given 1 Gen Rep to ido1500

[vernal shadow]

https://pokepast.es/579ef2e5e4745513

Prepare to witness peak shit team building. There's a huge lack in synergy. Just a bunch of Pokémon I wanted to try and use

[molten oasis]

Well uh

I wouldn’t use this team in general to be honest. Ttar doesn’t make much sense, Zard is only good on sun teams, all the sets need work

[vernal shadow]

Zard is a place holder bc he's my Kalos one. Ttar was a stretch for use tbf. I kinda just figured Id try it. Don't think I've pulled him out once

Indeedee and whimsi kinda contradict eachother

[dense latch]

it feels like your entire team tries to ruin each other’s day

[molten oasis]

Yeeeeaaahhh

[vernal shadow]

Yup

[dense latch]

playing reg f with a team that’s hard to justify for reg h wont get you far

[molten oasis]

Legendaries are fun and they’re good

[foggy lodge]

why scale without the dice

[vernal shadow]

Just slapped the team together

[vernal shadow]

I don't like them. Team diversity I think gets narrower with them. I also hate Pokémon like incin and rila. Watching vgc where most matches end up being mirror or close to is really boring

[molten oasis]

Stop

That mindset is why people struggle to get anywhere

With any and every game the Meta is the meta for a reason

[foggy lodge]

Indeedee is also one of the most used mons,,,,,

[dense latch]

don’t play reg f if you dont like legendaries

or play with legendaries in spite of it

[molten oasis]

Now do you have to run incin bolt rilla shifu? No

Reg f has a bunch of viable options

[dense latch]

we had 2 separate 4 month instances of reg h

[molten oasis]

We are so sick of reg h

Made me miss shifu

But yeah, you gotta be open to playing the meta

You will never learn if you don’t

[dense latch]

team diversity becoming lower with legendaries is also just wrong

[molten oasis]

It’s lowkey higher

[dense latch]

a meta can become centralized with or without them

check reg f’s regional standings

[molten oasis]

Reg f changed a lot and I still see a pretty wide range of teams on ladder

Reg h, man every game was dengo balance that sucked

Or dug, it was all dengo and blursa

[foggy lodge]

You could come up with niche stuff

As much as I hate reg H yeah you could use niche stuff but that doesn't mean those teams don't use strong mons

[vernal shadow]

I'm just saying that a lot of matches I've seen recently boil down to a 2v2 of rilla and incin.
And restricted formats from what I've seen at top generally just have the box legendaries with mirraidons being on most teams I've seen

Ofc I'm knowhere near as experienced as you all but that's just what I've seen from actively watching vgc matches in the last 6 months. No clue what dates they were from tho

[dense latch]

we’re not in a restricted format though

and there’s counterplay to incin rilla

[vernal shadow]

Starting again with my team. I'm keeping indeedee and gardevoir. Rest are being tossed out. Incin is a problem due to the immunity to expanding force so I'd need a counter there

[dense latch]

if you dont like these fake out cycles try farig or something

[vernal shadow]

Ik we aren't. I've also been on some sun and moon stuff due to skipping those games and I've played a bit of reg j. Like I said. No clue on year or dates that I've watched. Mostly sv stuff tho

Would trying gallade be a good idea ?

[dense latch]

it might be okay at best in hard trick room teams

[vernal shadow]

This better ?

Talonflame I think would be better than whimsicott. Don't need tw for super long and with galewings, it can get it up easily

Altho it would still be easy to taunt by prankster whimsi and torn wouldnt it ?

Covert cloak doesn't help with that ?

[foggy lodge]

No

Cloak blocks secondary effects not the effects

[vernal shadow]

Didn't think so unless it had a stupid interaction like life orb and I can't remember the ability. Was it sheer force or something ?

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[vernal shadow]

Where the chip from orb is negated bc it counts as a secondary effect

So thought I'd ask incase stacking prankster and a taunt would make the game freak out and negate one of them.

[dense latch]

i don’t see talonflame here and it’s arguably even worse than whim

because psychic terrain blocks taunt for whim

but not for talonflame since it’s ungrounded

[vernal shadow]

Psychic would also block my whimsi tho wouldn't it ?

[dense latch]

it doesn’t block tailwind

[vernal shadow]

Bc it's not a priority move

Right

My brain is dragging prankster in as making it priority

[dense latch]

tailwind is a priority move with prankster but it’s a field effect

it’s not targeting anything

[vernal shadow]

Psychic terrain only blocks targeting priority moves then ?

Terrains are still a mine field for me. I've not played against all of them and they were added the gen I stopped playing much. I've only really watched vgc and played a small amount of showdown

[dense latch]

Affected Pokémon become immune to opponents' moves with increased priority (including moves boosted by Prankster, Gale Wings, or Triage).
Moves that target all Pokémon (except Perish Song, Flower Shield, and Rototiller) and moves that target all adjacent foes cannot be blocked by Psychic Terrain even if they become priority moves.

[vernal shadow]

So spread moves like astral barrage (ik it can't become priority but for arguement) won't get blocked by it if a priority move ?

[dense latch]

it would

target all pokemon mean you and your ally pokemon

not just the opposite side

haze for example targets all pokemon and isn’t blocked by psychic terrain

[stone trellis]

And moves that only target your allies/you.

So things like Coaching aren't blocked.

[vernal shadow]

One reason I do like talonflame over whimsi is that it's both a tw setter and has a lot more offensive pressense meaning indeedee and talonflame can both be picked to go together where whimsi contradicts indeedee in support and doesn't do enough damage. That was my thoughts process anyway

Taunting talonflame when it goes for an attack is a wasted turn for torn and means something gets hit hard. If it then goes tw, I could always use tr

[dense latch]

you can’t use brave bird in psychic terrain until talonflame takes damage

so that limits what you can do with that lead

[vernal shadow]

True but I could flare blitz

Or brave bird before bringing indeedee in

What would u suggest for a reg F team for gardi to get her last ribbon. I did ok in reg J but I've been busy with university so sitting down to get better at the game wasn't really an option

I'll have a lot of free time over Christmas though. Deadlines are 5th and 10th of December. After that, two days a week in work

Think reg G was the easiest for me but I hadn't caught gardi yet so I couldn't take advantage

What about this team? https://rk9.gg/teamlist/public/SC02wuJ9D2cOLVUOmpek/DL5USgD4UUMuEs0HqUS3

What are some good tornadus counters ?

[dense latch]

that’s a reg h team

again i think the only way you’re gonna make gallade work is in hard trick room

[foggy lodge]

Gallade only works on hard TR in reg F

[vernal shadow]

Why ? Bc it's too slow ?

Base 80 isn't it

It's weird tho. It's like too slow but not slow enough

Would anyone be willing to try and create me a team ?
I feel like I'm pissing people off here

[real prairie]

dont think you are pissing anyone off mate

[dense latch]

not at all don’t worry about it

the direction of the team is still pretty hard to figure out, we can try to help if you can share what you want out of it

all out tr? tailroom?

[vernal shadow]

I think I prefer tw. Based on gardis stat of 80 in speed. I can only get it to 132 or 145 with modest so I figured having tw and TR would be better.
I do ok with premade singles teams. I find vgc is a lot more of a mine field and I just can't build a team. So many numbers, Pokémon, abilities and moves to account for. It's just a lot for my brain to take

[bold geode]

You're pissing me on mate

[bold geode]

Also I'm ngl
Especially with inexperience, this mentality is gonna absolutely murder you

[vernal shadow]

So like for example right. To make you understand my chomps ev set was basically to reduce the number of numbers involved. It had 145 speed with rest in bulk. This was to reduce the numbers my brain needed to take in by knowing that both would out speed or be too slow since they had the same speed stat

[bold geode]

Like I get wanting to have fun with it, but at some point at least one of those things you hate is gonna have to hit the builder

[real prairie]

I see

[vernal shadow]

Ik 😭

I'm only pushing atm bc it's the last ribbon I need

[bold geode]

Honestly you know
We have pulled pork
But what about pushed pork

[real prairie]

basically pork mince

or sausages

[bold geode]

We need pushed pork dawg

[real prairie]

both are pushed

[vernal shadow]

And due to gardis weakness and the game coming closer to an end without a 100% guarantee that the same ribbon will be in the next game, I figured I'd try getting it now

[bold geode]

Nah nah
You just take pork
And push it until it's shredded up

[bold geode]

You're just wanting it on Garde?

[real prairie]

interesting, poor Le Chonk

[bold geode]

Are you just wanting it on one Pokemon?

[vernal shadow]

Yup. Ik I could climb with a meta team but I'd have to win with it on the team

And I want to use it to get it

[real prairie]

you'd need a reg J team for that no? ladder still reg J?

[bold geode]

Yeah
Just use 5 broken ass legendaries and slap a Gardevoir on there
It doesn't even have to come to the game to get the ribbon

[vernal shadow]

Current yes. I do have a reg J team. Isn't it cycling end of the month ?

[real prairie]

we have no idea honestly

[bold geode]

Yeah the ladder will still be J though
Cuz Pikachu hates us

[real prairie]

Id imagine this though

[vernal shadow]

Oh. I thought I saw something that said it was going to F

[bold geode]

Irl events

[real prairie]

F would make sense, but its rare pokemon makes sense

[bold geode]

Official events follow Regulation F

[vernal shadow]

You're joking. I hopped off the ladder BC I figured it was gonna change over

[bold geode]

They don't allow formats with mythicals in the official circuit

[real prairie]

Think he means he was hoping that the ladder would change when the tournaments do

[bold geode]

Ranked ladder though will still most likely be Reg J and I'm saying that by like
99.9999%

[real prairie]

I feel Monke is probably right

[vernal shadow]

Ye. So I could actually use gardi in a slightly lower power level format

[vernal shadow]

Damn that sucks

[bold geode]

Nah it's ass honestly
Your best bet is kinda to just
Let it benchwarm lol

[real prairie]

if you want to use Gardevoir in reg J, just slap it with a scarf and make it a psyspammer, best you can probably do

[vernal shadow]

I've had it one shot miraidon a few times which was hilarious

And terra fairy, it does like 60-70%

I had it with scarf for a bit but the damage wasn't good enough so I tried choice specs. Think I had expanding force, moonblast, mystical fire and destiny bond. Destiny bond was rarely used but was great when facing 2 restricteds. Trading a gardi for a miraidon or a Zama was good fun. Doubt I'd have hit masterball like that but was fun

Generally used with whimsi and koroidon lead with lunala in back

I was hoping formats would cycle and I was hoping reg G would come back around. I played a lot of that on showdown and I enjoyed it a lot

[real prairie]

It could potentially be an okay partner for Para-Charge Miraidon

[vernal shadow]

Ik it had been up twice but I wasn't aware how they worked with format swapping

Do u lot think the masterball ribbon will be identical in champions ?

Or do u think the big pika will give us a different one. Just thinking that it'd probably be way easier within a mega format

[real prairie]

@vernal shadow this has won a unofficial tournament:

https://pokepast.es/d5e614dd49b9789c

[vernal shadow]

I just need to grab a glastrier. I've actually got sets on half of these already. Plus a chance to flex my shiny miraidon my friend got me from Japan. Been sat in a box since I got it

Tyvm.

[real prairie]

np

its basically a discharge spam team

[vernal shadow]

I've never used one.

[real prairie]

click buttons win games basically

[vernal shadow]

How does it work with speed ? Just tr if definitely slower

That's the game plan

[real prairie]

yeah basically, you have TR if they have TW, and have Discharge + Chi-yu if they are a TR team

interesting to see no heatwave though

[vernal shadow]

Ye pretty odd

If I fail, would you be willing to just throw it on a team and win with it for me ? @real prairie

[real prairie]

I haven't climbed ladder yet so id be starting from scratch too

but im sure there is someone here thats bothered to ladder already

[vernal shadow]

On a win streak with reg J team today. Only at 1100 but its going well https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2488156141

[stone trellis]

Do you want the Master Ball thing?

I'm already in MB, I can win a match with Gardevoir for you and trade it back.

[vernal shadow]

I'll keep pushing for now but if sv is hitting its end and u happen to be in masterball, could u do it for me then? I kinda want to try it myself but i also dont want to miss out on it

[stone trellis]

Yep.

My personal opinion is that you should first focus on getting to Master Ball and then win a game with Gardevoir once you're there since you can't drop from the tier.

[vernal shadow]

You cant ?

I thought it'd be like normal ranked games

[stone trellis]

No, you only ever drop from Master Ball once a season ends.

[vernal shadow]

This is why endeavour on whimsi XD https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2488162634

[vernal shadow]

Same team u helped me with btw with a couple changes. Works great

1200 now. I added more bulk to whimsi by checking how fast torn was and only investing enough to outspeed it by 1 point which gave me 148 points spare for its hp. Really noticable

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2488169732

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2488178307

[vernal shadow]

I've won almost every match today. I've lost 1 out of 6 or 7

[stone trellis]

That's the most forced 6 7 joke I've ever seen.

[vernal shadow]

What ?

What's 6 7 ?

[stone trellis]

Right, so there was this supremely awful song by a rapper called "Doot Doot (6 7)".

Because the song was so awful, people would use it in joke edits whenever those two numbers were mentioned next to each other.

[vernal shadow]

Ok...

[stone trellis]

A few months later, as a school basketball game was being filmed, a kid with a fucked-up haircut walked right up to the camera and yelled "6 7!".

It's extremely forced and probably one of the most brainrotted things ever, but it is a meme.

It's almost as forced as Miraidon hate.

[vernal shadow]

This is stupid. The young people of today are so fucked

[stone trellis]

As forced as it is, at least it's an organic meme that became famous because people actually found it funny.

Italian brainrot (the other big meme of this year that lasted for more than a month) is just like Charizard, it's an industry plant.

[vernal shadow]

Charizard is great

I don't see many memes. Don't use much social media

[stone trellis]

Yes, you are.

Right now.

[vernal shadow]

"don't use much"

[stone trellis]

(I didn't see the "much" because I'm tired)

[vernal shadow]

Literally only discord for game discussion

I do have a Facebook account which was to find someone I lost contact with and that's it

[stone trellis]

It's AI generated images of weird animal-object combinations coupled with an AI voice saying dumb shit, it's not funny enough to be dragged eight months after it was popular and have fucking cards of it on supermarkets.

[vernal shadow]

I hate ai

Some examples of it being great

[stone trellis]

I know, dude.

[real prairie]

AI overview is ass

use ChatGPT or Gemini at the least

[stone trellis]

Have any of you watched season 2 of Dexter?

[vernal shadow]

I'm trying to become a game artist and my friend does va so I hate it for that aspect

My pfp is one of mine

[real prairie]

as in the orginal or the sequal?

[stone trellis]

The original.

[real prairie]

ive seen all of the original but it was a while ago

[stone trellis]

I remember the AI overview just straight up lying and saying that Lila (or whatever the name of the crazy British lady with the big chest from season 2 was) was a serial killer.

[vernal shadow]

I've seen it say there are no countries in Africa starting with the letter K

[real prairie]

AI overview wants you to be right more than it wants to be right itself

you give it a leading question, it will find a way to confirm what you are saying

ignoring the facts

[vernal shadow]

True

[stone trellis]

Give me a dumb question with an obvious answer and I will search it up right now.

[vernal shadow]

This

[tiny karma]

Pikachu's moveset:

Physical Moves

Bide, Body Slam, Brick Break, Counter, Covet, Dig, Double Kick, Double Slap, Double-Edge, Dynamic Punch, Endeavor, Extreme Speed, Facade, Fake Out, Feint, Flail, Fling, Fly, Focus Punch, Frustration, Headbutt, Heart Stamp, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Last Resort, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Nuzzle, Pay Day, Play Rough, Present, Quick Attack, Rage, Return, Reversal, Rock Smash, Rollout, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Skull Bash, Slam, Spark, Strength, Submission, Take Down, Thief, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Upper Hand, Volt Tackle, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Charge Beam, Disarming Voice, Discharge, Draining Kiss, Echoed Voice, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Mud-Slap, Rising Voltage, Round, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Uproar, Volt Switch, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Agility, Attract, Bestow, Calm Mind, Captivate, Celebrate, Charge, Charm, Confide, Curse, Defense Curl, Detect, Double Team, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Encore, Endure, Fake Tears, Flash, Follow Me, Growl, Happy Hour, Helping Hand, Hold Hands, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Lucky Chant, Magnet Rise, Mimic, Nasty Plot, Play Nice, Protect, Rain Dance, Reflect, Refresh, Rest, Sing, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Swagger, Sweet Kiss, Sweet Scent, Tail Whip, Teeter Dance, Thunder Wave, Tickle, Toxic, Wish, Yawn

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Pikachu.
A move displayed with Underlined text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by a Pokémon Terastalised as a Fire-type.

Sableye version 4.29.0

[stone trellis]

Why is there no AI overview now all of a sudden?

[stone trellis]

Where am I gonna get the dumbest answers possible now?

[real prairie]

There you go

[stone trellis]

It didn't say in Scarlet and Violet, to be fair.

[real prairie]

its still wrong lol

[stone trellis]

But hey, it was still wrong.

Yep.

[vernal shadow]

Doesn't let's go Pikachu get a unique fire move ?

Like not flamethrower?

Like Eevee gets something like sizzly slide or something with a stupid name

[real prairie]

no, just floaty fall, zippy zap and Splishy Splash

[vernal shadow]

Eevee gets more does it ? I didn't get far in let's go bc the catch mechanic and box organisation was annoying me

[real prairie]

yeah Eevee gets 6

[vernal shadow]

It's a shame bc I loved being in kanto again. I loved the art style too and the battling looked good

[timber falcon]

so ive tried a rental but it doesnt seem to match my style, do i just move on to another?

or should i keep going untill i eventually adapt or smth

[next stump]

I think within 10-20 games you should be able to tell if a team clicks

If you’re not enjoying it, onto the next one

It also might help to process why you’re not enjoying it

[timber falcon]

alr, its been a day so im pretty sure ive done at least 20 battles, tho ill try evaluate where i could improve

[molten oasis]

Trying to hit 1600 it’s rough lol

I need to figure out better game plans for tr and cress

[bold geode]

You're fighting it too huh

[molten oasis]

It’s so annoying

[bold geode]

Yeah @foggy lodge you see this shi dude

[molten oasis]

Cress doesn’t fckn die and I don’t have taunt

And trying to guess the tr on Deedee sucks

[foggy lodge]

huh

[molten oasis]

Play might be Tera steel lando for this team

[bold geode]

I can try to reverse but it don't change that it's fat as fuck

[molten oasis]

Yeah it doesn’t change anything

[bold geode]

Yeah I don't think I've picked off a single set/BO1 match against Cress

@stark kindle quit tryna send me your crypto scams dawg

[molten oasis]

lol

Probably need to practice the mu honestly

My teams good just need to figure that out

[dense latch]

real

i dont think i’ve gotten past 1570

[molten oasis]

I hit like 1580 last night then lost a few games

Now sitting at 1550

[dense latch]

i got cts’d too much yesterday i honestly might just do bo3

i’ll probably get better at the format that way too

[molten oasis]

True

[shadow wind]

I’ve been preaching Bo3

[foggy lodge]

Religiously playing bo3

@shadow wind help me

[shadow wind]

Only help I can give for that is suggesting Hades 2

[stone trellis]

I've never even gotten to 1570.

Nevermind, my highest rank in Reg J was like, 1571.

(I thought it was 1569)

[real prairie]

we talking BO1 or BO3?

[short quiver]

i was watching wolfeys video on the draft league

and i want to try a vgc draft

[waxen dock]

What reg?

[waxen dock]

I think bo1,but ask paul

[short quiver]

i think anything outside of H would be unnecessarily complex

[waxen dock]

Well no more reg h

[short quiver]

🥀

does that mean theres a reg F draft soon?

[waxen dock]

Well technically there is reg h

And a reg h regional