competitive_discussion

[cyan smelt]

Poor obamasnow

[timber schooner]

4 times weaknesses are worse

[short quiver]

bug grass has 6 and 2 of them are 4x weaknesses

sorry Leavanny

[cyan smelt]

Poor parasect

And parasect has dry skin on top of that

[short quiver]

id rather have 4 weaknesses 2 being quad weaknesses than have 7 total weaknesses

[timber schooner]

They need to nerf parasect its to powerful they should give it traunt

[short quiver]

*truant

and true they should

[short quiver]

doesnt that make fire a 6x weakness or sm shit

[cyan smelt]

Why did they make parasect the most aggressive pokemon in pla

Yeah extra damage from fire moves

[timber schooner]

Give kids nightmares

[short quiver]

🥀 imagine being 6x weak to something in pokemon

[cyan smelt]

Parasect must be the worst pokemon

[timber schooner]

Sun light kills it

[short quiver]

caterpie would like to know your location

[timber schooner]

Also if you breathe on it from a block away

[short quiver]

i cant say weedle cuz even weedle can do something

[cyan smelt]

I mean worst fully evolved Pokemon

Ok yeah beedrill is worse

[timber schooner]

Give it ghost type

[cyan smelt]

Even beedrill mega is bad

[short quiver]

id rather use beedril than parasect

not that id be using beedril anyways

[cyan smelt]

I used parasect in pla because it had spore

[short quiver]

i didnt use it cuz my typhlosion kept nuking them

the alpha parasect btw

fire ghost is insane typing

[cyan smelt]

The alphas aren't as scary once you get some high level pokemon

[timber schooner]

🦐

[cyan smelt]

You know what's crazier

Water ghost with last respects and adaptability or swift swim

[short quiver]

fire in general is a good type it has the second highest resistances in the game

[timber schooner]

Best type is fairy

[short quiver]

okay gen 6 kid

[timber schooner]

In terms of everything/geomancy

[short quiver]

now see i would agree with you, however, the two types with the most resistances both resist fairy

fire and steel

[cyan smelt]

What about poison

[short quiver]

i hope our gen 10 fire starter is a fire fairy

[short quiver]

5 resistances

[cyan smelt]

I hope we get another fire/fighting to piss people off

[short quiver]

i hope the grass starter is grass electric

[cyan smelt]

Grass ghost

[short quiver]

decidueye moment

[cyan smelt]

Oh lol forgot about decidueye

[short quiver]

steel has TEN RESISTANCES?

[timber schooner]

Ghost rock

[cyan smelt]

Steel is the most defensive type

[short quiver]

yeah

steel with 10 and then fire with 6

[cyan smelt]

Kinda makes me want to use crown now

[timber schooner]

Heatran

[short quiver]

now see you would think fire steel would be good typing but its actually not 😭

[cyan smelt]

Tera bug heatran is a sleeper pick for reg f

[short quiver]

9 resistances an immunity and only 3 weaknesses is not bad tho

[timber schooner]

Did you know primal groundon is the god of land but is weak to ground

[short quiver]

yes i did

[timber schooner]

That's bull

[cyan smelt]

It doesn't matter it can nuke any other ground types

[short quiver]

did you know its also weak to water and kyogre isnt weak to either of its types

[timber schooner]

Same for all duos

[short quiver]

not quite

[cyan smelt]

Primal Groudon boutta go hard with scarlet paradoxes

[short quiver]

imagine primal groudon brute bonnet

[cyan smelt]

Primal Groudon + bolt

[short quiver]

please no

[timber schooner]

Shenija aur Ballon terra electric

[short quiver]

*Shedinja
*Air Balloon
*Tera

[timber schooner]

Now that is super balanced

[cyan smelt]

Not shedinja again please

[short quiver]

you can still kill it quite easily

[cyan smelt]

Please spare me from shedinja

[short quiver]

sand, poison, burn, the burning sea from fire pledge and grads pledge

[timber schooner]

Weather damage

[short quiver]

i just said that

i said sand

since hail doesnt exist anymore

[cyan smelt]

Ttar will become my best friend once shedinja comes back

[short quiver]

im gonna be running willowisp on somebody

[timber schooner]

Get the flame shrower

[cyan smelt]

Incin?

[short quiver]

EW

NO

[cyan smelt]

Kantotales

[short quiver]

also unlikely

[cyan smelt]

Rotom

[short quiver]

i’m gonna be using a rain team for most of champions

so probably a ghost type

[cyan smelt]

Idt any rain pals have will o wisp

[short quiver]

most ghost types get it, some psychic types get it

some random normal types have it

and them some random ass stragglers that fit none of the lists

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Sableye version 4.29.0

[cyan smelt]

I wanna use shedinja now

[short quiver]

i was right a significant number of ghost types get it

[cyan smelt]

R U gonna use sableye

[short quiver]

possibly

[timber schooner]

Never

[short quiver]

im reading through the list

i can use hisuain zoroark

or banette

my mega slot is already taken so mega banette isnt available

[cyan smelt]

Hisuian zoroark, disguise as archaludon or basculegion

[short quiver]

how about i disguise as a pure normal type

[timber schooner]

Who you people's favorite megas

[short quiver]

MAWILE

[cyan smelt]

Mega Mewtwo y

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/mawile-mega-mega-mawile-pokemon-gif-26533940

aura farming queen

[cyan smelt]

Do U like mega diancie

[short quiver]

then it becomes what pure normal types am i throwing into the rain

[timber schooner]

Mega sceptile

[short quiver]

yes i do

[cyan smelt]

Wait I just realised that ursaluna bm invalidates shedinja

[short quiver]

it doesnt

[timber schooner]

Just realized

[short quiver]

does it

[cyan smelt]

It can hit ghost types with its ability

[short quiver]

but wonder guard

[timber schooner]

Actually its super effective that can only hit it

[cyan smelt]

How does mind's eye and wonder guard interact

[short quiver]

it doesnt make the normal move super effective so its negated

[cyan smelt]

Gonna have to ask dawobbufflet

[short quiver]

imagine a normal move super effective to ghost types

[cyan smelt]

Well you could disguise zoroark as ursa bm anyway

[short quiver]

its funnier to be pure normal cuz its only weakness is fighting

which hisuian zoroark is immune to

but again what pure normal types can i throw into the rain

[timber schooner]

Cast form

[short quiver]

i could pull a classic me and use fucking furret

i used furret in reg C

[timber schooner]

I know a good set

[short quiver]

it wasnt c

[cyan smelt]

I really want to use shedinja now

[short quiver]

it wasnt legal until what F?

[cyan smelt]

Maya used furret

[timber schooner]

Last resort and sweep up

Only 2 moves

[short quiver]

how about i not ask you for sets mr specs dragon breath giratina

[cyan smelt]

Super fang gotta be on there right

[short quiver]

i will be using super fang

it also gets like every move in the game as a gen 2 normal type

[cyan smelt]

Wait, just use maushold if you're running rain

[timber schooner]

They should give ferret close combat

[short quiver]

yeah but furret is funnier

[cyan smelt]

Furret does not get beat up or pop bomb

[short quiver]

i dont care about either of those

its job is to disguise zoroark and super fang stuff

it also gets follow me

eh you’re right i should use maushold

furret is too slow

base 90

maushold is 111

this team is gonna be WEIRD

oh yeah i cant use maushold OR furret im gonna be in tr rain

and cant use zoroark-h its WAY too fast

[cyan smelt]

U need something with will o wisp

[short quiver]

yeah

that doesnt mind the rain

and also works in tr

[cyan smelt]

Dusclops

[short quiver]

i got sableye and dusclops 🥀

aight so mega mawile pelipper dusclops and idk fucking greedent

if its even gonna be legal

if not uh

[cyan smelt]

Spiritomb or mimikyu

Use Snorlax it'll be legal

[short quiver]

it doesn’t learn super fang 😔

none of them do but spiritomb doesnt sound bad

mikyukyu is fast

[cyan smelt]

Curse is the same as super fang ig

[short quiver]

the team is solely built around mega mawile

with intimidate before it megas obviously because intimidate is rediculously good

as we know from a certain cat

mawile dusclops pelipper blank blank and blank

[cyan smelt]

Slow basculegion

[short quiver]

hell no

[cyan smelt]

Does archaludon work in tr

Is toxicroak too fast

[short quiver]

better question would arch even be legal in the mega format of champions

[cyan smelt]

Probably

[short quiver]

toxicroak is too fast for tr its base 85

[cyan smelt]

If dozo is legal I don't see why arch wouldn't be

[short quiver]

arch is also base 85

🥀

[cyan smelt]

Slowbro or slowking

Rhyperior

[short quiver]

no rhyperior

[cyan smelt]

Kingambit

[short quiver]

i want mawile to aura farm

[cyan smelt]

Iron hands

[short quiver]

ice punch mega mawile gonna go brrrrr (literally)

[cyan smelt]

Surf pelipper next to gastrodon

[short quiver]

thats not mawile coded

[cyan smelt]

Well is iron hands mawile coded

[short quiver]

idk is it

and will it even be legal

[cyan smelt]

In a mega format yeah most likely

Ooh how bout araquanid

[short quiver]

blub blub spider

[cyan smelt]

It's tough because usually you don't see rain and tr

You'll need more than one tr setter though

[short quiver]

yeah

do i bring out the porygon

[molten oasis]

[short quiver]

dusclops porygon pelipper araquanid mawile

and probably a prankster mon for manual rain and other funsies

[cyan smelt]

Heh riolu learns rain dance

[waxen dock]

yes

prankster rain dance

[short quiver]

and coaching… mawile might like that..

and gets vacuum wave so i can have it all priority

[cyan smelt]

And quick guard so you don't get faked out during tr

[short quiver]

brilliant

[stone trellis]

What are you guys talking about?

[cyan smelt]

Mega format for champions and mega mawile

[pseudo zinc]

Thoughts on this team?

https://pokepast.es/bdeaae23e931a57d

[short quiver]

my mega mawile rain tr team for champions

please vgc gods let mawile keep ice punch

[stone trellis]

Why the fuck would you use Slaking without a Choice item or even Weezing?

It's worse than useless with Truant.

And why not use a Normal STAB move on it?

You could use Giga Impact so you don't care as much about Truant.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2486100142

[real prairie]

You want this:
Tsareena @ Wide Lens
Ability: Queenly Majesty
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 68 HP / 252 Atk / 188 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Protect
• Triple Axel
• Power Whip
• U-turn

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2486105641

Why U-turn?

And why 188 Speed?

What's so special about 116?

[stone trellis]

I was about to comment that all stream matches go 2-1 and then Gabriel Agati just had to get a 2-0 match.

[real prairie]

It's faster than the most common rillaboom and Raging bolt sets

[real prairie]

Getting out of tough situations, but it's not mandatory

[real prairie]

And with 252 adamant it can kill rilla and bolt with tera ice

[stone trellis]

252+ Atk Tera Ice Tsareena Triple Axel (120 BP) (3 hits) vs. 188 HP / 140 Def Raging Bolt: 200-242 (89.2 - 108%) -- 33.5% chance to OHKO

Pretty shite roll, can't lie.

[foggy lodge]

Eh that's probably the bulkiest Raging Bolt ever

You still should kill most

[stone trellis]

252+ Atk Tera Ice Tsareena Triple Axel (120 BP) (3 hits) vs. 188 HP / 36 Def Raging Bolt: 226-272 (100.8 - 121.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
I doubt most of them go below 36.

[foggy lodge]

One would think that if they had 3 streams they would use it to show more players but they keep showing Agati and Justin lololol

[foggy lodge]

Marcofiero didn't do it

8-3

[stone trellis]

What are the standings for everyone?

[stone trellis]

The song that's playing right now goes hard on mute.

It has that VTuber music zing to it.

[bold geode]

Fuck it, go Yuma

Oh shit, this is a fat match right here

[stone trellis]

I'm rooting for Gabriel.

Him, Justin and Yuma are my picks.

[dense latch]

lol it happened on stream

[stone trellis]

?

Oh, Politoed's item?

[dense latch]

yea

[stone trellis]

That sucks.

[bold geode]

Juan wins Game 1
Wave Crash shouldn't KO Ursaluna and Incin shouldn't be killed by Respects

[stone trellis]

No shit.

[waxen dock]

idk what i want to run in the reg f gc

[stone trellis]

Oh, you posted it before he won.

[foggy lodge]

I think this match is just over

Juanfi positioned the sneasler too perfectly

How do you really stop it now

[stone trellis]

Unrelated, but I finally won against CSR.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2486219322

[foggy lodge]

Wait hm

The sneaslers acrobatics was disabled and now the volca can play

[stone trellis]

Does removing Sneasler even matter now?

[foggy lodge]

JUANFI TOP 4

POLITOED WAS DEFEATED

[stone trellis]

Politoed getting anywhere near top 8 at all was NOT expected.

[real prairie]

What was the point in Politoed running item that reduces normal damage?

[stone trellis]

UBM counter.

I just fought this guy who was using Cloak Lunala, Lorb Magearna, Ditto, Bolt, Indeedee and fucking Galarian Articuno.

HE GOT THREE FUCKING CRITICAL HITS

COUNT THEM

THREE

[foggy lodge]

The ursas

[real prairie]

That feels wasted but fair enough

[foggy lodge]

Its okay

Its for the p2 ursa MU and yawn Blursas

[stone trellis]

I got one too, but his Pokemon was super low so it didn't matter.

[real prairie]

Having grass halving berry makes more sense to me

[foggy lodge]

That's what tera grass was for

And with the berries and tera grass it takes the ursas

Tho I think the berry never came up lol

But it still forces the opponent to play differently

[foggy lodge]

Welp that turn 1 was horrible

Lets go to game 2 already

[next stump]

I love pokemon, that turn 1 game 3 could so many different ways

[foggy lodge]

Fs

That turn 1 on the 3 games were almost decisive of the whole match

Btw 5 japanese went to LAIC and 2 are in top 4

Good for them cause they don't have to play the horrendous asian circuit but damn japan is so strong

Shoutout to Incineroar for winning LAIC already❤️

[dense latch]

no way it’s already decided in top 4

[molten oasis]

Seriously? Lmfao

[dense latch]

did it win every reg h major

[foggy lodge]

So far yes

Only Stuttgart left

[stone trellis]

What are the finalists?

[next stump]

unbelievable crit LOL

[foggy lodge]

Two crits loo

[stone trellis]

Which players are left?

Juanfi, Theotime and who else?

There goes Theotime, I guess.

[foggy lodge]

JUANFI IN FINALS

[short quiver]

lowkey i wanna run high jump kick

[foggy lodge]

Juanfi vs a japanese in finals

Yuya Tada or Yuma Kinugawa

[real prairie]

You do not, protect makes you hurt yourself

[short quiver]

i know how the move works 🥀

[stone trellis]

I'm rooting for Yuma.

[whole ibex]

So is Charizard just no longer use in Sun teams anymore? (Reg H)

[stone trellis]

That probably coincides with the popularity of a certain fish.

[foggy lodge]

Typhlosion was like the call for LAIC

Too much Volca balance in the format and Typhlosion eats it

[stone trellis]

Judging by the fact my Typhlosion set kills Pelipper with Overheat, yeah, that poor moth is going to turn into Jogo.

[short quiver]

it’ll be back in champions im sure of it

[foggy lodge]

Lol Bluesa also already won LAIC

I didn't realize of that the whole top 4 had Incin Blursa

[molten oasis]

Interesting

[stone trellis]

Who's the other finalist going to be?

Do we know yet?

[dense latch]

no yuma and yuya are still playing their set

[foggy lodge]

Omfg

Yuma just won with that detect

[stone trellis]

What happened?

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2486328780

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2486330440

[whole ibex]

I mean Zard does beat Volc

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but Typhlo is ghost

So that was the main strong into it

https://fixupx.com/stickbugged_lol/status/1992182181884518453?s=20

dyl (@stickbugged_lol)

it's tera ghost for an amazing reason

Quoting Play! Pokémon @ LAIC (@playpokemon)
︀
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︀︀
︀︀Becoming a pivotal support Pokémon in Regulation H, Ribombee is able to set up a quick Tailwind, use Fake Tears against pesky Dark-type Pokémon, and use its ability Shield Dust to avoid Fake Out!
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FixupX · Nov 22, 2025, 10:43 AM

[bold geode]

I wanna do that

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2486445908

https://tenor.com/view/roaring-moon-beloved-sweet-cute-love-gif-6892025355709398155

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/ribombee-necrozma-pokemon-spirit-bomb-gif-6949217466590911989

[rustic mountain]

some really good sets this weekend

[rustic mountain]

https://x.com/iGreg7/status/1991525463035113990?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

iGreg! #CONTENTMACHINE (@iGreg7)

SNORUNT PLEASE SURVIVE THIS

X · Nov 20, 2025, 3:14 PM

[foggy lodge]

Me

[dense latch]

swear i’ve seen like 15 of his videos and he never makes it past the first may or blue fight 😭

[rustic mountain]

i think he just clip farms tbh but that vid i found hilarious

[dense latch]

yea it’s a decent formula for sure

[molten oasis]

It’s funny

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2486624258-lc7r1b2muu6vf01hs2s6nya35hsat89pw

[cyan smelt]

Lando does silly damage

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9randombattle-2486703606

[stone trellis]

So if VGC finals are in three hours and 25 minutes from now and each finals match takes roughly 35 minutes, when will Masters finals begin?

10:05 PM?

Fuck...

[next stump]

Yeah it's gonna be manyyyyyyyyy hours till we are there

TCG usually takes around 3 hours total

[dense latch]

i thought tcg masters finals would be canceled because one of the finalists got disqualified but they brought up their semifinals opponent instead

[stone trellis]

Imagine if the semifinals guy actually wins the whole tournament due to this.

If I was in his place and that happened to me, I'd be ecstatic.

[dense latch]

something similar happened in 2024 tcg worlds

[stone trellis]

What's up with cheating in TCG?

[dense latch]

but top 8 rather than top 4

ian robbed vs fernando cifuentes top 8, ian wins but did a gesture on stream that got him disqualified, fernando moved on and ended up winning worlds

[stone trellis]

Oh.

Holy shit, imagine losing your shot at winning Worlds because you flipped someone off.

VGC is nothing like that, we had that guy Emilio Forbes come dressed like a Blood in Worlds finals and nobody said anything.

[waxen dock]

Gesture?

[foggy lodge]

Holy shit what

hat context shirt context i require context

I hear something abou that

They shuffled with the cards facing them

[next stump]

judges determined he was making a gesture that looked like masturbating lol, and he eventually admitted to it in a post after the event

[solid frigate]

Finally

I can at least stop testing this team for now

[next stump]

at first he claimed it was supposed to be a dice roll gesute

gesture*

[solid frigate]

What the fuck lmao

[next stump]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fpoR9GkIi2I

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-decade-aurora-curtain-kamen-rider-zi-o-kamen-rider-gif-10820404953270006748

yeah no this is why never do these stuff in tournaments

even if its just accidental

[dense latch]

yea

but gabriel fernandez also had some cheating allegations earlier in the season so the community is really split

[upper zealot]

wait so what happened with tcg finals today?

why did he get dqued

[next stump]

supposedly he was looking at his deck while shuffling

at least that's what my non-TCG brain understood from it

[upper zealot]

i just found his tweet about it and yeah thats what he said happened

[foggy lodge]

Do y'all think there will je news about champions today or nah

[stone trellis]

Why today?

[foggy lodge]

Laic

[stone trellis]

And?

[foggy lodge]

Pretty sure they reveal stuff abou TCG or other small stuff at ICs

But idk if they would do that with champions

[stone trellis]

Yeah.

[left bobcat]

🧚🙅‍♀️

[waxen dock]

10:10pm and i have a test tommorow

Normally i would have watched but since i have a test and i need to wake up early i wont watch it

[timber schooner]

Someone want to battle

[stone trellis]

Shit.

[waxen dock]

You have test too?

[stone trellis]

No, I replied to the wrong message.

I meant to reply to the 10:10 PM one.

Good luck either way.

When's the next GC taking place?

[waxen dock]

It isnt very late

[waxen dock]

January

[stone trellis]

So at least I have a lot of time to prepare for it.

What team do you run for Reg F?

[waxen dock]

Idk,its in more than a month

And now they delayed the vgc, so the vgc will probably be like 11 pm

[stone trellis]

I thought you'd run stuff on Showdown to prepare for it.

[dense latch]

reg f is just over a week from now

or are we talking gc

[stone trellis]

I'm talking about Reg F.

[dense latch]

i'd still start testing in preparation for it

[stone trellis]

Same.

It took me more than a month to finalise PTFK, so it seems like a pretty sensible choice.

Now I just need to figure out an actually good team.

[timber schooner]

Could some help me build a team because i suck at it

[terse anvil]

guys i need some help

im having some fun with this team but im not sure

https://pokepast.es/66fb5c19a00f970f

[stone trellis]

Their EVs are unfinished.

The last 4 points can matter, trust me.

[terse anvil]

oh damn

thank you, i hadnt noticed

but any tips other than that?

[stone trellis]

Remove Draco from Raging Bolt.

It doesn't like losing its Special Attack boosts and +2 Dragon Pulse already does more than enough damage.

[terse anvil]

alright, thank you!

[gentle crag]

crxpticexe has given 1 Gen Rep to skywarsveteran1607

[stone trellis]

Also, go 228 HP.

A Leftovers user almost always wants their HP to be divisible by 16.

[terse anvil]

why is that?

[stone trellis]

At the end of each turn, the Leftovers item heals 1/16 of the user's maximum HP.

When it is divisible by 16, you get the most recovered because it's exactly 1/16 of your health.

The HP values you need to aim for are 144, 160, 176, 192, 208, 224 and 240.

228 HP EV Raging Bolt hits 224.

@terse anvil Does that make sense?

[terse anvil]

gotchu, thank you!

[gentle crag]

crxpticexe has given 1 Gen Rep to skywarsveteran1607

[next stump]

masters finals time 😄

[stone trellis]

Ido was on point.

[bold geode]

?

[stone trellis]

This.

[bold geode]

This is gonna be a good set

One of the best LATAM players vs the Japan Nats champion

[next stump]

holy slow whims lol

damn, 7(?) LAICs and 0 latam champions

gg

[stone trellis]

When the guy I was rooting for actually wins:

[solid frigate]

It’s kinda like

Pretty hard MU on Juan’s side

[dense latch]

dnite made it so typhlosion couldnt carry but turns out yuma's blursa was more than enough lol

[solid frigate]

Juan should never bring Dengo here lol

[next stump]

any chance we get VGC news at all

[dense latch]

i doubt it

[foggy lodge]

Its not

Its balanced

[dense latch]

but if we're getting news it might as well be now right

[bold geode]

Dengo was fine in Game 2, Yuma just brought Flamigo and got cooked

[stone trellis]

Would Juan have won game 2 if Flamigo wasn't around for that one?

[foggy lodge]

I think he would have

[bold geode]

If Yuma stuck to Farig as the 4th, yeah

[dense latch]

flamigo is way too good in this mu ngl

[foggy lodge]

I think the Sneasler was too good on this MU

[dense latch]

it's his easiest way through juanfi's possible dengo and bloodmoon and it cant be slowed down by intim

[bold geode]

Welp
Goodbye Regulation H

[next stump]

crazy prize pool

this game is awesome

meanwhile in yugioh they're battling for an air fryer

[foggy lodge]

Stuttgart left

[bold geode]

But why though

[foggy lodge]

Idk

But its the last reg H tour

[bold geode]

Wait
Wasn't Stuttgart just this last EU regional?

Didn't Simone just win Stuttgart

[foggy lodge]

No that was Gdansk

[stone trellis]

Of course he confused Germany with Poland.

[next stump]

closing ceremony please some kind of announcement

even if it's just confirming leaked regionals

[foggy lodge]

champions champions champions champion champions

[next stump]

how funny is it that the guy who's in the suit handing out trophies (the head of competitive pokemon) is named Chris Brown

unlucky ass name

[foggy lodge]

tho the realistico name should be no champions news

[foggy lodge]

Lol

[stone trellis]

If his wife's name is Robyn and he always beats her (in competitive games), it'd make it even more ironic.

[dense latch]

poor guy

[foggy lodge]

Always bet on Incineroar❤️

[feral wraith]

[bold geode]

Incineroar could win every SV event but a World's smfh

[foggy lodge]

If Incin wins Stuttgart it will have the 100% wr in reg H

[foggy lodge]

Incineroar lock tf in please

[bold geode]

Yeah lock tf in Incineroar

[next stump]

two regionals "TBA" and it's almost December, can we please become serious pokemon

[bold geode]

I heard that this TBA would be a great city, one we've had before, such a great city and shit it's gonna be Portland again

[foggy lodge]

pokemon count your days

[dense latch]

they'll announce the date a week before or something fuck competitors i guess

[next stump]

terrible closing ceremony 💤

[bold geode]

Anyways um
Nah fuck Stuttgart
Regulation F let's go

[timber schooner]

Could somebody rate my team for me

[next stump]

we have zero regionals in december right?

[dense latch]

reg h has felt so long

[bold geode]

Nothing in December unless they have a GC in December

[dense latch]

when's toronto again?

[timber schooner]

https://pokepast.es/a5c6399f32b88371

[next stump]

january 16-18

[bold geode]

January

[foggy lodge]

Yeah only the reg F gc in dec

[next stump]

MLK weekend for fellow americans

[foggy lodge]

Monke we have to lock in for the gc

[bold geode]

And a fat prize pool community tour
Watch it and the GC be the same time

[dense latch]

play in a good and enjoyable tournament

or the gc

[foggy lodge]

erik we have to lock in for the limitless tour

I dropped Scream Tail sadly

I'm on Ceribelli's team

[bold geode]

Imma lock in your mom

[foggy lodge]

hawk tuah man

[bold geode]

Yeah yeah 6 7 bitch

[gentle crag]

dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[foggy lodge]

BIRCH

[bold geode]

I forgot 6 7 gives rep

[dense latch]

6 7

[gentle crag]

eriksp has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke

[dense latch]

to balance it out

[dense latch]

what’s that again

[foggy lodge]

Av Bolt support Flutter Incin Amoonguss Firepon Urshifu water

[dense latch]

o ok

im on japan balance

i was laddering on call with val and fan but i got cooked by farig so im thinking of using firepon

the sd glide set is way too fun

[bold geode]

What? No
No

[molten oasis]

Wait I got a better one

[stone trellis]

Why does 6 7 give rep?

[bold geode]

Why not

[dense latch]

some moderator probably thought it would be funny

[foggy lodge]

You could take a look at Tim Edwards team

Let me search it

[stone trellis]

That shit is not funny.

[dense latch]

o yea ive seen it

[stone trellis]

The meme is forced and the song that birthed it is genuinely in the bottom 3 songs of all time.

[dense latch]

i’m trying out the team that won vr

[solid frigate]

Here’s me just doing frog angry sounds

[foggy lodge]

Wat what won I forgot

[dense latch]

it’s japan balance but firepon over pao

[foggy lodge]

Ohh

[bold geode]

Yeah yeah 6 7

[gentle crag]

dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to skywarsveteran1607

[foggy lodge]

Sounds good

[dense latch]

it kinda weakens ursh since ursh pao isnt an option anymore

[foggy lodge]

I was trying it but Flutter over Pao

But Flutter without Firepon there feels too weak

[dense latch]

but it’s a second mon to benefit off double fake out

[foggy lodge]

They cover each other perfectly

[dense latch]

i don’t mind the idea of flutter

icy wind + fast bolt to outspeed -1 lando seems strong

[foggy lodge]

Yeah it was strong

I have to figure out Ceree's spread tho

[dense latch]

https://x.com/zeen172M/status/1992722561634079172?s=20

じーん (@zeen172M)

22~25champion

X · Nov 23, 2025, 10:30 PM

poor luca

[solid frigate]

What

[timber schooner]

Can you rate my team for me and tell me anything I should fix or missing

https://pokepast.es/544fff4271e37317

[solid frigate]

On what what format

[timber schooner]

F

[solid frigate]

Why double weather

[dense latch]

drednaw will just die before getting a shell smash

double weather is very counterintuitive when nothing really benefits from sun

[timber schooner]

The sun is pacific for toarcoal and the giraffe

[solid frigate]

Unless your name is Kyogre Blizzard ahhh team

[solid frigate]

Fari benefits from nothing

[timber schooner]

Its for fast teams

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-ooo-building-throw-throw-away-eiji-hino-gif-20195508

Yeah no that not how it works

[dense latch]

heat rock and damp rock are also bad items in vgc

[solid frigate]

Farigiraf benefits nothing from Torkoal’s existence and your team just fucking due to Bolt anyway

[dense latch]

like if i'm being honest this is not a good reg h team let alone reg f

[foggy lodge]

And that's a boots Incin

[timber schooner]

I suck at held items

[foggy lodge]

I mean

The "sun mode" was good

[dense latch]

https://victoryroad.pro/sv-rental-teams-reg-set-f/

[foggy lodge]

But in reg H

[dense latch]

peli arch is already not that good in reg f

it's gonna be even harder to make work with double weather

[solid frigate]

Its like heavy shadowed by Bolt Balance in a harsh way

You basically have to run Lando if you want to stand a chance in there

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2487001444-rdh59lmvmvf10cvpshw3qtan4rgpgehpw this duo is way too fun

[prisma plank]

Does it take a long time to find an opponent right now in ranked?

[radiant linden]

@cyan smelt

+2 252 SpA Fairy Aura Tera Fairy Beads of Ruin Xerneas Moonblast vs. 248 HP / 24 SpD Gholdengo: 204-240 (105.6 - 124.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[cyan smelt]

Shouldn't they both be level 50

[solid frigate]

I mean with that much stat boost

It’s normal

[radiant linden]

they are

wo beads it's a 2hko

[solid frigate]

Also why even bother using Xerneas to hit Dengo

You have Chi Yu lol

[radiant linden]

Someone specified gholdengo as a resist

[solid frigate]

I mean it’s still a resist

Just you have a butt ton of Stat boost

[rare pumice]

does g-max stun shock have a 100 percent chance to give a secondary effect, or is it just a chance to poison/paralyze?

[tiny karma]

Move: G-Max Stun Shock

Power is equal to the base move's Max Move power. If this move is successful, each Pokemon on the opposing side either becomes poisoned or paralyzed, even if they have a substitute.

Type

Electric

Category

Physical

Power

10

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.29.0

[dense latch]

guaranteed to either poison or paralyze

[rare pumice]

thank you

[dense latch]

50 to poison 50 to para

[rare pumice]

did gigantamax toxtricity ever see any usage? i'm not sure if i'd prefer that effect over summoning electric terrain

[dense latch]

not really

[solid frigate]

Tbh there’s only like 3 Gmax forms that are viable and most of the other ones are Dynamax

[rare pumice]

i'm guessing the most commonly used gmax forms were the kanto starters then

[dense latch]

only zard and venu

blastoise was pretty mid

[rare pumice]

where there any other standout ones?

[dense latch]

coalossal was good in non restricted formats

[rare pumice]

thank you

does will-o-wisp impede strength sap recovery?

[tiny karma]

Move: Strength Sap

Lowers the target's Attack by 1 stage. The user restores its HP equal to the target's Attack stat calculated with its stat stage before this move was used. If Big Root is held by the user, the HP recovered is 1.3x normal, rounded half down. Fails if the target's Attack stat stage is -6.

Type

Grass

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Heal

Cannot be selected under Heal Block.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sableye version 4.29.0

[molten oasis]

Id assume so

[dense latch]

not anymore i think

burn halves the damage of physical moves but doesnt affect the attack stat itself

that's why body press is also halved when burnt

[molten oasis]

Oh right

[foggy lodge]

Because Xerneas can do that

Be ready for having to ev your gholdengo in champions to survive the +2 fairy aura moonblast

[cyan smelt]

Oh god xerneas with tera

[rare pumice]

is sheer force effectively just disabled while dynamaxed?

[solid frigate]

Pretty sure it’s just items that get disabled(Choice Items for example)

[rare pumice]

yeah but like, if sheer force disables secondary effects of moves but makes them stronger, how does that work with max moves?

[dense latch]

sheer force is disabled yes

[rare pumice]

thank you

[foggy lodge]

Agati's team looks so fun to use but so hard to pilot

Who would have said Agati would come to LAIC with a team ChatGPT made

[dense latch]

im pretty sure those were his exact words on his twitter lmao

but yea the politoed mode sounds like it has a high skill ceiling

https://x.com/AgatiGa/status/1992338230394642513?s=20 yea lol fun coincidence

Gabriel Agati (@AgatiGa)

I finished top 8 in LAIC with double weather! Team was insanely fun but also very hard to pilot

X · Nov 22, 2025, 9:03 PM

[foggy lodge]

Lmao

I really need a team report

I wonder what problem did he found with Blursa to take Politoed

Dozogiri is one match I can think of

Sun?

I feel like everytime I breakdown one piece of this team it just makes the Politoed set look more evil

[dense latch]

this for sure

dozo giri is manageable with incin rilla a9 but politoed def makes it better

[ember jungle]

You ever just go slowly mad, feeling like you’re stuck on a cycle of almost reaching rank 9 in competitive, only to lose and get kicked back down for a few times… sigh

[knotty mirage]

Do you guys think it's likely for mega delphox too get levitate when champions comes out

[real prairie]

Morning, I miss anything interesting?

[real prairie]

does perish kill both or just dondozo?

[waxen dock]

No,cuz burn does decrease attack, it deacreases the move bp

[next stump]

morning people

[rare pumice]

good morning

i just learned that snipe shot apparently has an increased crit ratio after 6 years of being an inteleon fan

[tiny karma]

Move: Snipe Shot

Has a higher chance for a critical hit. This move cannot be redirected to a different target by any effect.

Type

Water

Category

Special

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.29.0

[rare pumice]

idk if that really changes much in my life honestly, but it feels like it would have been nice to know

[solid frigate]

I mean

It’s basically has Stalwart

[real prairie]

who do I want as a 6th? https://pokepast.es/caab3d4f2c2faf69

feel like i want a re-direct with lightscreen

[stone trellis]

Nope.

I got to Master Ball in one run on the 2nd and I haven't really touched ranked since the 3rd.

[stone trellis]

A single physical attacker would be nice.

[real prairie]

I feel arch is just power crept in reg F

[stone trellis]

Yeah.

Its Sp. Def is probably its biggest issue.

Even with AV, it takes almost the entirety of its EVs to make it live Lando EP.

[real prairie]

even with light screen and AV it gets whacked by SpAtks

[stone trellis]

At least UBM didn't have a free 69% boost onto its STAB.

116+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 244 HP / 164+ SpD Assault Vest Archaludon: 164-195 (83.6 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Earth Power vs. 244 HP / 124+ SpD Assault Vest Archaludon: 164-195 (83.6 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I doubt most UBM even go up to 252 Modest.

[real prairie]

yeah its not ideal.

I need to figure something out.

[stone trellis]

You know who else loves rain and decks Landorus?

On top of appreciating a Grass type who can provide support?

[real prairie]

Urshifu?

[stone trellis]

Yes.

That way, you can focus more on Politoed as a support instead of forcing it to be offensive and you also have someone who genuinely just bitches the cloud man/tiger.

Ludicolo needs to be at least 204 Timid to outspeed Scarf Lando.

You could do a nasty combo with Icy Wind + CS Shifu.

And why Tera Ghost?

You're immune to Fake Out either way because of Cloak.

116+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Sludge Bomb vs. 220 HP / 44 SpD Ludicolo: 151-179 (82.5 - 97.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Sludge Bomb vs. 220 HP / 44 SpD Ludicolo: 153-182 (83.6 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[real prairie]

im confused, Ive not ran cloak Ludi

but certainly could do

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 272: Ludicolo

Types

Water/Grass

Abilities

Swift Swim, Rain Dish, Own Tempo (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/70/70/90/100/70

Total

480

Sableye version 4.29.0

[stone trellis]

That 100 Sp. Def is saving its ass.

[real prairie]

the team before was loaded dice, it was tera ghost so i could avoid fake out and bullet seed into Arch

but i agree with dropping that idea

thats reg H shit

[stone trellis]

I deluded myself into thinking it was Cloak, but it worked either way.

[real prairie]

you were pre-seasoning your cook

setting up a nice marinade

[stone trellis]

So now we need our second physical attacker.

[real prairie]

whats the bulkiest Urshifu set? trying to calc for ludicolo OHKO

with high HP investment ill probably have to commit to leaf storm

[stone trellis]

108 HP / 100 SpD lives 100 Modest Bolt Tclap.

I'd start there.

[real prairie]

28 SpA Ludicolo Leaf Storm vs. 108 HP / 100 SpD Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: 182-216 (96.2 - 114.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

not ideal, but okay

[bold geode]

12/156 does that too for lower investment unless you want more HP

[stone trellis]

I'd prefer having more HP.

84 SpA Ludicolo Leaf Storm vs. 108 HP / 100 SpD Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: 192-228 (101.5 - 120.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

I figured it out.

Ludicolo @ Covert Cloak
Level: 50
Timid Nature
Tera Type: Dark
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 12 HP / 20 Def / 84 SpA / 188 SpD / 204 Spe

• Fake Out
• Leaf Storm
• Icy Wind
• Encore

[real prairie]

not having weather ball feels painful

[stone trellis]

Politoed can have it.

We can keep offensive Politoed, actually.

It's just that we won't take Chien-Pao Ice Spinner too well.

252+ SpA Politoed Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 252 HP / 76+ SpD Incineroar in Rain: 204-242 (100.9 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

This is frying me.

Steel could work well as a Tera type for Politoed.

I'm torn between Steel, Dragon and Grass.

[timber schooner]

Dragon

[stone trellis]

Why?

[foggy lodge]

Dragon makes you raging bolt food in the raging bolt format

I would go grass

[stone trellis]

Fair.

[next stump]

https://x.com/kogepannachan/status/1992942889895407709?s=46

AKP｜こげぱん🍎 (@kogepannachan)

詰めポケ作りました！
今回は実用的なものに寄せてみました
制限時間は45秒！

#詰めポケ　#pokepuzzle

X · Nov 24, 2025, 1:06 PM

[bold geode]

"tried to make it more practical"
Creates a rocket science board state

Is there even a correct answer to this that doesn't require a 50/50

[spiral ridge]

It says 100%

[bold geode]

Well yeah but like
Where even is the 100% here lol

[spiral ridge]

It’s probably

Rage powder with sus into incin then do some bullshit to get taunt off and then thunderclap

Idk I’ve never played the game

[bold geode]

Can't Clap cuz Azu Jet might go first
Can't Pulse cuz it won't connect
Everything is in Jet range so you'd have to predict which slot Jet goes into (which imo doesn't constitute as part of a 100% wincon)
Switching Incin in doesn't do shit
Genuinely what do you do LMAO

[dense latch]

i saw the solution in the comments fuck

[bold geode]

Can't even Fake Out Clap cuz Clap would fail

[dense latch]

i think u have to assume bolt is faster otherwise jet just wins

[spiral ridge]

Oh is that all

[dense latch]

if so it’s switch amoong to incin

and tclap with bolt

then turn 2 fake out + switch bolt to amoong

[spiral ridge]

Then rage powder until sus dead
Do FO protect next
Then should have enough to pressure taunt and tclap next two turns right?

[dense latch]

rage powder taunt until it’s taunted and clap with bolt once it’s in

[spiral ridge]

Can’t you not hard switch incin

[next stump]

you only have two thunderclaps

[spiral ridge]

Oh wait yeah their idea uses two

[next stump]

so you need a solution where amoonguss is next to incin

[bold geode]

Yeah
My thing is like
Isn't Aqua Jet just free unless Azumarill is slower

[next stump]

so maybe thunderclap + switch to incin, fake out + pivot to amoonguss, rage powder + taunt?

[dense latch]

https://x.com/13yoshi37/status/1992973502811340901?s=46 this is what i saw

Markus Hamann (@13Yoshi37)

@kogepannachan turn 1: switch Amoonguss to Incineroar and Thunder Clap
turn 2 Fake Out + switch Raging Bolt to Amoonguss
turn 3 Rage Power + Taunt (repeat if Azumarill uses Protect)
If Azumarill missed Play Rough, attack our own Incineroar with Pollen Puff.
Then Raging Bolt uses Thunderclap.

X · Nov 24, 2025, 3:08 PM

[next stump]

does amoonguss live a +5 aqua jet at 34% after regenerator

[dense latch]

uses only two tclaps, first and final turn

[spiral ridge]

Yeah that would be it

[bold geode]

My question is does Bolt survive the Jet lol

[spiral ridge]

Ig

[dense latch]

again it assumes azu is slower

[next stump]

yeah azu is gonna be slower than Bolt

[dense latch]

which it should be right or are azumarills max speed for some reason

[next stump]

takes some crazy spreads for that not to happen

[bold geode]

Yeah that sequence works if it's slower

If it's faster it's just GGs

[dense latch]

yea if it’s faster the whole puzzle kinda falls apart i think

no way for bolt to get tclap off guaranteed

https://x.com/chefvgc/status/1992820007462691017?s=46 here’s some more i saw earlier

chef / Ben (@chefVGC)

New puzzle is tested and ready to go - it will be posted tomorrow afternoon

If you’re new to puzzles (or just want to take a trip down memory lane with me) here are some highlights of past puzzles to try out. The goal is always to find the move(s) for a 100% wincon!

X · Nov 24, 2025, 4:58 AM

[tiny karma]

Move: Double Shock

Fails unless the user is an Electric type. If this move is successful and the user is not Terastallized, the user's Electric type becomes typeless as long as it remains active.

Type

Electric

Category

Physical

Power

120

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.29.0

[spiral ridge]

Ah yeah

[real prairie]

Wb fire?

[spiral ridge]

Noticed ally switch hell nah I ain’t thinking this out

[tiny karma]

Move: Ally Switch

The user swaps positions with its ally. Fails if the user is the only Pokemon on its side. This move has a 1/X chance of being successful, where X starts at 1 and triples each time this move is successfully used. X resets to 1 if this move fails or if the user's last move used is not Ally Switch.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

15 (24)

Priority

2

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.29.0

[spiral ridge]

Yeah it is prio

[tiny karma]

Move: Ally Switch

The user swaps positions with its ally. Fails if the user is the only Pokemon on its side. This move has a 1/X chance of being successful, where X starts at 1 and triples each time this move is successfully used. X resets to 1 if this move fails or if the user's last move used is not Ally Switch.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

15 (24)

Priority

2

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.29.0

[dense latch]

i think the second puzzle is just darts + tera dark knock off into murkrow

tera to prevent quash

if they tailwind then darts kos murkrow and knock off should finish off lycanroc

quash pult means no tailwind

tho rock slide flinches may mean it’s not 100% anymore

[bold geode]

More info that wasn't added for this one, Ally Switch is off the table, don't consider it

For the Ursh Pawmot one

That one is actually very sneaky

In fact imma post that image here by itself
I wanna see if anyone can figure it out

Ally Switch is off the table

Don't consider Ally Switch
(I went back and found the post for this image and he mentioned this)

[dense latch]

do we know if fake out is active or not

[bold geode]

It doesn't say otherwise so

[dense latch]

o i just realized it’s def revival blessing shenanigans

[bold geode]

Ok but who

[dense latch]

jet lando revive amoong, amoong beats cress right?

[bold geode]

Nope

[dense latch]

what’s the lose con there

[bold geode]

Actually it could work
But it's not the intended answer

[bold geode]

Actually
Amoonguss loses to Fairy Cress

[dense latch]

o true

[bold geode]

The answer it's hard
It's a very weird interaction

[shadow wind]

Is it not just surging strikes the Lando and click revival blessing into torn?

[bold geode]

Can lose to misses/Lunar Blessing outhealing

There's a way
It's very outside of the box

I'll give you two hints

1. Revival Blessing is correct
2. Pay very close attention to the speed order

[shadow wind]

U turn on the cress and then revival blessing the Shifu?

Or just surging might be better

Surging definitely better actually cause it covers ally switch

[bold geode]

Ally Switch is off the table

[stone trellis]

In rain?

[shadow wind]

Then we blasting the cress and killing and reviving the Shifu the same turn

[dense latch]

i didn’t even consider reviving ursh damn

[bold geode]

Tbf
Even I didn't think you could do that

[shadow wind]

Is that the answer?

[bold geode]

Yup essentially

[shadow wind]

But does that not lose to lunar dance Tera fairy?

[bold geode]

You regular Surging into Cress, die, Revive the Ursh, take a Rock Slide and maybe a Gleam and then you tera Water Surging into Lando unless they TR then you Jet and then you Surging Cress

Full explanation

[shadow wind]

See I didn’t want to say that at first cause I’m pretty sure Urshifu just dies to Rocky helmet stuff but if it’s right it’s right and I won’t complain

[dense latch]

rocky helmet chip is a bit scary but im sure the math works out fine

[shadow wind]

I’m impressed with myself for finding it

[real prairie]

Tera fire Politoed, you wouldn't really tera Infront of another water type

[bold geode]

Yeah it goes against common knowledge but it's like the one way you can pull it back

Cuz Amoonguss loses to Tera Fairy Cress and Torn can miss Bleakwind

[shadow wind]

Yeah I wasn’t 100% sure on the damage numbers and I did infact forget about the death turn order with recoil damage

Cause they said the Tera water surging numbers and not the no Tera surging numbers so I kinda assumed Cress could out heal

Cause what if 1 hit of tera water surging did 20% we can assume that that 1 hit of non tera would’ve done 14%?

Or maybe 15

Regardless, if the cress then lived and was just clicking lunar dance it would be at around 35% and you have to target the Lando or else you lose to recoil that means the Cress gets off 1 more lunar dance which means 60% which I guess means that Tera water surging strikes does kill

So it comes down to the missing calc of non Tera water surging into the cress

[shadow wind]

Guys

What happens if the Cress clicks ally switch turn 2

[dense latch]

.

[shadow wind]

Ok good

Cause yeah if they ally switch turn 2 it’s a 50/50 anyway

[molten oasis]

||Ss cress, revive shifu, Tera shifu. If tr goes up jet the lando if not surging strikes it, then finish hitting cress I believe ||

[foggy lodge]

Tera water aqua jet revival guss no?

I haven't looked at any message I'm gonna read it now

[molten oasis]

Shifu’s -1 I think cress eats the jet

[foggy lodge]

Wait yeah its what you said

[shadow wind]

Mushroom can’t beat Cress

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but

Does one surging hit kill Cress

[shadow wind]

No

Tera water surging does 60% to cress

So 1 hit does 20

[foggy lodge]

Why is the ursh av btw

Trapped in this situation since the teambuilder

[shadow wind]

😭

[foggy lodge]

How does the revival blessing interaction work

[shadow wind]

With what

[foggy lodge]

Does the ursh enter right away with the revival blessing

Or does it enter after the turn ends

[shadow wind]

Enters back right away I believe

[foggy lodge]

Oh ok

Then yeah its

[molten oasis]

After hitting cress you win with one hit

[foggy lodge]

||surging cress and cress ends in like 9% ursh dies and pawmot revives it, pawmot dies and ursh takes 12% and ends in 38%, with gleam it ends in 20% and then tera water shifu just sweeps||

[molten oasis]

Yep

[foggy lodge]

It wins as long as you don't get critted

[molten oasis]

I thought about torn but bleakwind isn’t accurate and tr going up is a loss

Then amoonguss can’t beat the cress I think

[foggy lodge]

I like to solve this things thinking in the worst case scenario

Tho here you don't win if the worst case scenario happens lol

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

Ursh dies, you Revive, Ursh immediately hits the field

[molten oasis]

Isn’t that bad?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah it is bad LOL

You eat damage for free

[molten oasis]

Then you just die to gleam slide lol

Idt it’s immediate

[shadow wind]

Maybe it isn't

But regardless you don't take enough I think

Or you do and it does matter

[molten oasis]

Gleam ko’s

[shadow wind]

Tera gleam cress single target does 18 to Shifu

And rock slide does 12

[molten oasis]

Without Tera

I doubt that

[shadow wind]

Combining to 30

I'm just going with what the numbers say

[foggy lodge]

Yeah don't you lose to tera fairy gleam with that play

Cuz ursh chips cress to 9% with surging and dies

Pawmot revives ursh and dies to rock slide and takds 12% from slide

[timber falcon]

so i really wanna get back into competetive pokemon, but it feels as though my team building capabilities or piloting have gotten much much worse

any advice on how to improve?

[foggy lodge]

Pick up a public team that is good for you and just run games with it

[timber falcon]

alright ill give it a go

[shadow wind]

And if a team isn’t working for you just drop it, wasn’t your team so you shouldn’t feel connected to it

People get stuck trying to use popular teams too much

[timber falcon]

so uh where can i find teams?

[foggy lodge]

The vgc repository

[shadow wind]

Try as many teams as possible to get the most experience possible

VGCPastes

[timber falcon]

this mistake ive made in the past

alr thanks for the help

[shadow wind]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1axlwmzPA49rYkqXh7zHvAtSP-TKbM0ijGYBPRflLSWw/edit?usp=drivesdk

That took like 5 tries because it kept crashing my phone

[timber falcon]

yeah dw managed to get a team on there

so a few teams and battles to improve piloting and perhaps grasp the meta

what about when i decide to create my own?

[shadow wind]

Then take what you learnt from using others teams and implement those mechanics into your own

Center pieces, type synergies, sweepers, defensive backbones, etc

[solid frigate]

or like a neutral thing is to use a team as a reference and take your own spin on it with the logic learnt

[timber falcon]

alright i get it

genuinely shocked ive completely forgot how to go about all this though lol, guess i can only go up from here

[solid frigate]

it took me 20 days to find a team that fits me

so its fine to take it slow

[bold geode]

Yeah but it's your one wincon

Accounts for more situations

[molten oasis]

Fair point

[bold geode]

Meanwhile Amoonguss loses to Fairy Cress, Urshifu without the revive loses to Cress, and Tornadus can miss Bleakwinds

Meanwhile that play you basically win even if Cress Gleams twice or Lunars

[dense latch]

i wish vgc puzzles were more accessible like they are with like chess

making them in mass seems pretty difficult though which is a shame

[shadow wind]

I mean they can almost never work

Crits and misses and statuses

Like I agree I like vgc puzzles but there’s a world where Lycanroc clicks rock slide and flinches 8 turns in a row

[dense latch]

yea rng makes it hard to create hard to find 100% win scenarios

[timber schooner]

https://pokepast.es/6065ca6a029fd089 how is this team

[shadow wind]

Kingdra and Bascu on the same team feels bad imo

Too much rain reliance and you’d literally never bring Kingdra over Bascu

Other than that the team is pretty much fine

Except Bascu has no item and dragon breath on Bolt is not fire

Maybe I do still know ball

Hades 2 has just been way too gas

[dense latch]

no earth power on lando is a throw

lefties incin also isnt great

you’re wasting evs on the incin set too

128 and 124 evs do the same

do modest or timid lando naive is a bad nature

you’d probably be better off with an av bolt or a more offensive booster set but with protect

and yeah basc isnt that great in reg f and kingdra is just bad bad

[foggy lodge]

I like the ones that involve hitting yourself

[dense latch]

i remember one of those

only that it was mienshao csr though

[shadow wind]

I remember I had a game where I had Paonite against a full HP Tera grass Ogerpon so I had to click espeed into my own Pao’s protect to not take the chip and have my Dnite die

Honestly probably one of the coolest things I’ve ever done

[foggy lodge]

I remember I've had to do like

Fake out self giga drain into double protects

I remember like one time there was a puzzle like that but with Marco vs Wolfey

And that Marco actually had to KO his own Jumpluff to get an out

[next stump]

hardest play I’ve ever had to make was double side targeting with my Dragonite banded extreme speed in an end game against alex underhill

he had ogerpon and i would die to one spiky shield

so I had to call his original protect and that he would go for a double, which he did (and got)

would have lost to a triple protect but that’s crazy to predict for

[solid frigate]

and bro really hates protect on correct mons

[shadow wind]

Literally exact same as mine I just prayed my opponent wouldn’t get a double

[next stump]

[foggy lodge]

I have to know how to play around double protects

A lot of the times if someone protects one mon I tend to like

Double up into that mon to be aggresive but idk if its okay to also cover a second protect from them

[shadow wind]

https://x.com/chefVGC/status/1993077092368490554

chef / Ben (@chefVGC)

Are you a puzzle champ 2 years in the making?

Find the sequence of moves to win the game 100%* of the time (with the given conditions).

There's a lot of info to look at, so no time limit on this one.

Good luck! RTs are appreciated if you enjoyed!

X · Nov 24, 2025, 9:59 PM

I think I figured this one out?

I won't say anything but I think I know it

I can't actually find a solution so my guess might not even be fully right

[dense latch]

but idk how that plays out given dusclops has like 50 base hp

i was about to say i was cooked bc basc had jet

but it's psychic terrain so im good

[shadow wind]

That's my solution

[shadow wind]

When I first read it I thought the opponents Ursa was slower and there was no terrain so I was just thinking like how do I not just insta lose

[dense latch]

o wait im gonna delete mine i dont wanna ruin it

[shadow wind]

I think mine is right?

[dense latch]

unless im just wrong

[shadow wind]

There's no solution

Not posted anywhere anyway

I think you're right though

[dense latch]

comments are saying what you said

[shadow wind]

Oh I guess it is twitter

Sometimes I forget twitter has comments and it isn't a still image

[dense latch]

lmao

[shadow wind]

I almost never use twitter

Too busy scrolling instagram

Ohhh

You can see the Blursa hp numbers

A very cool showdown feature

[dense latch]

o nice i was right about the pult meow one kinda

[shadow wind]

Thank you John Showdown

[dense latch]

i wanna try the other 4 from earlier again too

these are fun

[shadow wind]

Wait what other 4

[dense latch]

https://x.com/chefVGC/status/1992820007462691017?s=20

chef / Ben (@chefVGC)

New puzzle is tested and ready to go - it will be posted tomorrow afternoon

If you’re new to puzzles (or just want to take a trip down memory lane with me) here are some highlights of past puzzles to try out. The goal is always to find the move(s) for a 100% wincon!

X · Nov 24, 2025, 4:58 AM

there's three more in the post

[shadow wind]

Oh wait seriously

That's fire

Like I said twitter doesn't exist in my mind

Oh someone mentioned the Pult Meow one to me so I think I know that one

||Tera dark Meow so quash can't happen and then sucker with Pult and flower trick into the Lycanroc||

[dense latch]

yea i think there are a few solutions to that one

[shadow wind]

For sure

[dense latch]

||another solution i saw was flower trick into murkrow and tera dragon darts||

yea the creator said he messed up on that puzzle so there were two different answers

[shadow wind]

Yeah I could see that working

The 3rd one seems a bit tricky

[foggy lodge]

Did you find the solution

Idk how to win LOL

[shadow wind]

I think I know it but I can't find a verified answer

[foggy lodge]

||how do you stop the tera fairy wave crash hyper voice||

[shadow wind]

||Flare Blitz into their Basc and protect with your Blursa, if they protect their Blursa and attack with their Bascu then turn 2 you just side pain split into your Blursa and Tera normal Hyper Voice. If they double protect then you just keep earth powering into their Blursa and then you can beat down their Basc with Dusclops. And if they protect with their Basc and attack with their Blursa then you do the same thing and turn 2 you side pain split and hyper voice||

[dense latch]

||everyone is saying flare blitz incin protect into self pain split tera normal hyper voice||

im trying to figure out the shedinja one

[shadow wind]

I think it's literally just encore then stall

Like encore while switching into Amoonguss then switching out the Whims for Zacian

Cause they'll die to struggle

[foggy lodge]

Oh yeah its that I'm dumb asf LOL

[shadow wind]

I'm always better at these than I think

[dense latch]

||i could see dynamax amoong and using max guard after spore turns into that to stall a bit more, should win some more turns||

[foggy lodge]

Wait I don't want to enter to twitter

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[foggy lodge]

IT DOESN'T SHOW THE REST

[dense latch]

it does for me for some reason

[shadow wind]

Ok wait

[dense latch]

i'll send the pictures

[shadow wind]

Does shadow sneak go before encore?

It should right

[foggy lodge]

Send the pics pls